I am still liking the more traditional " engine" look, Pierce Mfg. and E One both have an electric vehicle that is more traditional. Madison, WI. has a "Pierce"apparatus that's been in service for over a year!
well it was the LAFD which chose to have this apparatus; Not sure if they were the reason Rosenbauer built an Americanized version of the RT at all, as they went on tour with the European version before
@@JesusisKingBpt and of course you can provide a link to an issues track. That would be nice to read. Besides the leaking water tank, that has nothing to do with the electric drivetrain and was fixed long time ago.
Definitely a nice looking pumper, and stepped inside of it while attending the FDIC 2022 .. It would be super nice looking, if they add some blue lighting into the truck, both the back and maybe the rear bottom, would definitely take it to that futuristic level for the LAFD … just saying..🤔🙌🏼🚨🔥🚒
Great catch! I love that rumbler and priority! Not sure about the Electronic Horn though... I wish that they would've utilized their airhorn instead of the crummy Whelen "Airhorn".
Ghost in the shell SAC police trucks kinda looked like this if that red light on the sides would flash in a forward pattern instead of normal flash. Pretty cool looking.
They need to change the light pattern cause the front end goes dark for a brief sec except 1 tiny light look at the old 82 and it never goes dark can’t beat old school and get a real siren on those rigs
Love the new style. But surprised it was not registered in California w/ Exempt plate yet. Appears its still carrying Minnesota plate where one of the Rosenbauer factory is.
In my opinion, I wonder what the electric Tiller tower and the eletric ladder truck will look like in the future. Since California is trying to go all electric by 2035 I think.
just my option, i can understand LAFD trying to do there part to help save the environment by going green using electric vehicles but i don’t see anything about them making a electric ladder truck. so unless they make one of those. the question of going all green is out of the question. plus LAFD run variety of other equipment that run on diesel. They will never be able to run completely green.
I mean, some is better then none. Also I'm not sure if this is about being completely green as much as it's that they want to taste testing E-Fire engines. I mean the new engine itself comes with a back diesel generator anyways, it's still pretty new tech
Rosenbauer is pitching electric ladders in Europe, but I have no idea if anybody has bought one. As for being "green" IMHO, it is a big fallacy: a structural fire in the US produces much more toxic gasses in a minute, then a modern diesel truck in a year, so the trick is to extinguish the fire as soon as possible. For this electric (hybrid) transmission may actually be handy, as it allows some non-traditional configurations of fire apparatus, that can allow to get to a fire faster, be more maneuverable, have more people, water and equipment onboard. Also for non fire calls hybrid drive allows to significantly save on diesel. Also, hybrid vehicles can provide much better onsite working conditions for firefighters due to being less noisy when pumping.
@@KrokLP How so? That Rosenbauer has one electric fire engine in service with one fire department and no plans or orders to build more or that Pierce (an American manufacturer) has three operating with three different departments and dozens more lined up to be the next?
I personally think 30s cars are very beautiful. But luckily fires are not about style and chrome, but about getting there fast and having everything you need with you. Which the Rosenbauer is definetly better at
@@KrokLPJust checked it, I was slightly wrong, it's a unique chassis (drivetrain), designed by Volvo Penta and based on the combination of Volvo Buses and Volvo Trucks technology.
Never heard the rumbler on any apparatus in LA! Was this the first ever vehicle to use the rumbler, Between LAFD & LAPD? Or have you heard it on something before?
Is that thing electric? Call me crazy but, don't batteries react badly to water? Seems like the wrong bricks to make electric. What happens when you're out for a long shift and the battery runs out of juice? I'd prefer my emergency vehicles, like paramedic, fire, and law enforcement not be limited by battery packs.
@@bostonrailfan2427 trust me we had quite a few issues with RB in the past ... but that one series they had issues with, they obviously fixed it as it's still produced today and it's very popular. So popular that it got boring it out on the road
How are they able to charge it when the state of California has told people not to charge their vehicles due to the POWER GRID NOT being able to handle it??
@@marco_grt4460 ALL municipal vehicles in California have plates CA EXEMPT in red on top with black numbers. The plate on the engine is a Minnesota manufactures plate because it is a test vehicle.
I don't mind the looks of engine 82, but with California being the brush fire capital, I would not want it out on a fire. Give me the traditional diesel engines over electric vehicle's anytime.
@@JinxedHer same difference really for responding to structural fires: you need a generator and fuel brought in to charge the engine while you need just a single tanker of diesel to fuel a half dozen companies
@@bostonrailfan2427 it comes with its own backup generator and fuel tank as backup plan (and nothing else than a backup!) already. It's for the rare but possible incidents where it might be necessary. As it was tested in real life conditions at some of the busiest stations in Berlin, the backup generator kicked in 9 times in 13 months
@Stephen Arnett exactly I love the electric engine. Plus if they purchase more of these they go to 61 67,5,13,29,84,26,92,96,99,100,101,103,106,107,109,70,50,and so many other stations. Or they purchase the pierce engine too .
Very European looking, but what else would you expect from _Rosenbauer._ Of course this _"All Electric Fire Truck"_ is assigned to the *Hollywood district,* to appease the beautiful Green people and protect them from "climate change".
@@EnjoyFirefighting it actually looks much worse then original RT, IMHO, they tried to apply a futuristic look of Rosenbauer America vehicles, and thus it looks shit.
Nah, I don't like that Hawthorne and Torrance police ass siren. Rosenbaur did a great job, but it doesn't look like a traditional fire engine, and I'm not a fan of an electric apparatus. Smh
They probably have to have a “real” engine 82, because after a run with any kind of distance or service, like a pump, the batteries would be drained and it would take a bit to recharge? Can’t be out of service that way.. Let them do electric chiefs cars and maybe biodiesel rigs…all SF rigs run on some form of that fuel today. But all electric…call me old fashioned but…😣
Well, this thing can sustain up to 2 hours running at it's MAX power output and since it's never really going to be pushed that far you can imagine it can run for some hours. It's not all electric anyway, they installed a backup diesel generator in case is needs more energy in large scale/long term emergencies. They still have the '"real" engine 82' as you put it, because this engine is basically the first of it's kind, of course it won't run completely perfect yet like any new thing.
an electric engine…carrying hundreds if gallons of water..using a water pump…nope, nothing bad can happen there 🙄 PR trumps common sense nowadays but gotta look like the city is making an impact
The LAFD didn't become one of the best in the world by doing things for PR. You sound idiotic lol please use the critical thinking skills that you were taught back in school.
@@bostonrailfan2427 uhm no? This isn't the first one out there, why would you think it's the first time that it's tested in life and death scenarios now?
a diesel gas engine…used to go into dangerous place... with burning flames…nope, nothing bad can happen there 🙄, see how it sounds worse when you flip it around? Both the diesel and electric engines could be dangerous with this kind of machinery
"this is very unrealsitic" First, it's unrealistic*, secondly how is it 'unrealsitic' if your seeing it being used in real life heading out to a call. And how is it unreliable? It can last for hours and has a backup diesel generator
@@creepertech9872 Sorry for the typo, a little triggered? Well one the fact that you need rely on a diesel generator is not very promosing, It cost $300k more then the diesel trucks, pumps %40 less water & needs a diesel "extender" engine to make it useful. Second off the truck have a tank burst and was out of service for 2 months, came back and has been in service for a few weeks with already present issues.
@@406fish1 It doesn't 'rely' on the diesel generator, it's the backup just in case. And of course it would go out of service after it breaks, this is one of the first of it's kind we still need to develop this tech. That's why there's backups. If we don't test new things how will we progress
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I am still liking the more traditional " engine" look, Pierce Mfg. and E One both have an electric vehicle that is more traditional. Madison, WI. has a "Pierce"apparatus that's been in service for over a year!
well it was the LAFD which chose to have this apparatus; Not sure if they were the reason Rosenbauer built an Americanized version of the RT at all, as they went on tour with the European version before
Kinda agree
So you mean bulky and heavy instead of efficient and fast?
@@JesusisKingBpt and of course you can provide a link to an issues track. That would be nice to read. Besides the leaking water tank, that has nothing to do with the electric drivetrain and was fixed long time ago.
@@EnjoyFirefighting Yes this one in LA definitely looks like a European rig.
AMAZING CATCH! loving the Rumbler & Priority! So glad to see this thing In service!
The pickup at 0:48 was like: Thanks man, finally a fire truck at my age... most of you guys have a makeup that makes you look like from the 60's....
Cool looking, hope it works as good as it looks.but my love is still to Pierce & Seagrave.Rock on LAFD😎
It amazed me when I was out there today how many people stopped right in front of the station blocking it at times.
the conventional fire trucks look like museum pieces..
Definitely a nice looking pumper, and stepped inside of it while attending the FDIC 2022 .. It would be super nice looking, if they add some blue lighting into the truck, both the back and maybe the rear bottom, would definitely take it to that futuristic level for the LAFD … just saying..🤔🙌🏼🚨🔥🚒
Look at the original RT (the European version), IMHO looks so much better.
That one is futuristic
it’s European styled, the design of the cabs are not much different than Mann or Mercedes or Dennis engines
Ok thanks
Now that's an interesting unit! I like it - seems very futuristic. Great footage!
I'm surprised why don't have any in Seattle yet
I absolutely hate it on the other hand. Good thing we don’t have any in Seattle!
hate futurism
Great catches ! Cool new electric engine
Great catch! I love that rumbler and priority! Not sure about the Electronic Horn though... I wish that they would've utilized their airhorn instead of the crummy Whelen "Airhorn".
Electric fire engine is now trendy
What sirens other then the whelen does new engine 82 have.
Ghost in the shell SAC police trucks kinda looked like this if that red light on the sides would flash in a forward pattern instead of normal flash. Pretty cool looking.
Awesome video! Does station 82 still have Engine 482 as well?
as far as i know, they still have E482 and E482C. thanks for watching!
Nice!
Great engine!! I really hope they’ve changed the license plate to a Cali exempt by now!! Haha
I just wish they would have put a decent lighting package on it!
European version with blue lights looks so much better
Add a FS Q2B and it will be much better.
Awesome!
Cool
Can you film a video of the truck on scene of a fire or something? Thanks!
Hmm Interesting. Not sure how I feel about the E-Fire.
Awesome catch!
DR2 what are you doing here?
@@OrangeCountyRails what do you mean?
@@demonracer2 Nvm 😅 I just didn’t think you would be watching a channel here in Ca lol
@@OrangeCountyRails I follow channels from all over, I have a few LAFD videos my self!
@@demonracer2 Nice
AWESOME VIDEO!
thanks bro!
1:19 Engine 82C just watching show LMAO
They need to change the light pattern cause the front end goes dark for a brief sec except 1 tiny light look at the old 82 and it never goes dark can’t beat old school and get a real siren on those rigs
Did I hear the rumbler and priority
I love the new rig
Volvo-Penta electric powertrain. It has the steering wheel from Volvo.
I think that is an awesome rig, however, they have to change the siren. Also, is the Diesel engine 82 still in service?
the KME is still at the station and numbered as "E82". i think it's going to stay there until the Rosenbauer becomes more familiar across personnel.
Is all of them going be like that
Love the new style. But surprised it was not registered in California w/ Exempt plate yet.
Appears its still carrying Minnesota plate where one of the Rosenbauer factory is.
In my opinion, I wonder what the electric Tiller tower and the eletric ladder truck will look like in the future. Since California is trying to go all electric by 2035 I think.
Looks more like a bus
this a hot wheels 💀
So are they rig jumping between the Rosenbauer and the KME?
Probably having to charge the Rosenbauer so they took the diesel
my theory is they were back in the KME due to having overtime engineers who aren't yet trained on it. but who knows!
@@FB1ResponseVideos what I heard is that they were doing some updates yesterday which is why it was down for a few hours
Looks do not drive performance. Takes some getting use to seeing that European styling.
just my option, i can understand LAFD trying to do there part to help save the environment by going green using electric vehicles but i don’t see anything about them making a electric ladder truck. so unless they make one of those. the question of going all green is out of the question. plus LAFD run variety of other equipment that run on diesel. They will never be able to run completely green.
I mean, some is better then none. Also I'm not sure if this is about being completely green as much as it's that they want to taste testing E-Fire engines. I mean the new engine itself comes with a back diesel generator anyways, it's still pretty new tech
Rosenbauer is pitching electric ladders in Europe, but I have no idea if anybody has bought one.
As for being "green" IMHO, it is a big fallacy: a structural fire in the US produces much more toxic gasses in a minute, then a modern diesel truck in a year, so the trick is to extinguish the fire as soon as possible. For this electric (hybrid) transmission may actually be handy, as it allows some non-traditional configurations of fire apparatus, that can allow to get to a fire faster, be more maneuverable, have more people, water and equipment onboard. Also for non fire calls hybrid drive allows to significantly save on diesel. Also, hybrid vehicles can provide much better onsite working conditions for firefighters due to being less noisy when pumping.
looks like a bigger ambulance
Nice tacoma
This might be the first time I've ever said that a KME might be the better, more reliable option.
It's sad that German/Austrian manufacturing just still keep beating American, even when it's the same company
@@KrokLP How so? That Rosenbauer has one electric fire engine in service with one fire department and no plans or orders to build more or that Pierce (an American manufacturer) has three operating with three different departments and dozens more lined up to be the next?
Is it electric?
yes
is that a rumbler i hear??
Yup
sure is
@@FB1ResponseVideos That’s a first lmao
Is that engine new?
No it’s one of their vintage ones from the 60’s
Oh
Yes it’s new
I’m still liking the truck at the very end more :/
Edit: The Electric Truck is still cool, and different. I just like the original style better
I personally think 30s cars are very beautiful. But luckily fires are not about style and chrome, but about getting there fast and having everything you need with you. Which the Rosenbauer is definetly better at
Looks like a bread truck
City bus doubles as a fire truck.
Meanwhile the massive diesel generator sits ready to go at any minute behind the station.
It has a built in generator, no worries, and yes, it is built on a bus chassis.
@@solarissv777 Rosenbauer only makes fire trucks and they use a in-house designed chassis. I don't know any busses that can crab steer, etc
@@KrokLPJust checked it, I was slightly wrong, it's a unique chassis (drivetrain), designed by Volvo Penta and based on the combination of Volvo Buses and Volvo Trucks technology.
Never heard the rumbler on any apparatus in LA! Was this the first ever vehicle to use the rumbler, Between LAFD & LAPD? Or have you heard it on something before?
i believe LAPD Metro has some vehicles with rumblers but in the way of regular marked field units, no LAFD or LAPD that i know of
What’s a rumbler?
@@xWakeUpx it’s the deep sounding bass you hear along with the regular siren.
Is that thing electric? Call me crazy but, don't batteries react badly to water? Seems like the wrong bricks to make electric. What happens when you're out for a long shift and the battery runs out of juice? I'd prefer my emergency vehicles, like paramedic, fire, and law enforcement not be limited by battery packs.
Looks different, prefer 82’s truck
It's a Brokenbauer. No matter how you slice it.
Lafd is going European now
That engine will never last. Wait until it dies on a fire scene or a rescue. LAFD will be liable.
or water causes an electrical short…
@@bostonrailfan2427 as if modern diesel powered trucks wouldn't have a ton of electric stuff on them ^^
Craig you aren't aware that it comes with its own backup plan that it won't die on scene?
@@EnjoyFirefighting spoken like a true spokesman, how much did they pay you?
@@bostonrailfan2427 trust me we had quite a few issues with RB in the past ... but that one series they had issues with, they obviously fixed it as it's still produced today and it's very popular. So popular that it got boring it out on the road
How are they able to charge it when the state of California has told people not to charge their vehicles due to the POWER GRID NOT being able to handle it??
Not a big fan, but I admit it is kinda cool! When it isn't suffering from rosenbroken syndrome that is LOL.
The new electric Engine 82 looks very European.
Anyone else notice the non-California license plate? Test vehicle.
I think is governament licence plate or something similar, easily to reconize the vehicle or in case the licence will be stolen
@@marco_grt4460 ALL municipal vehicles in California have plates CA EXEMPT in red on top with black numbers. The plate on the engine is a Minnesota manufactures plate because it is a test vehicle.
@@nobull4414 i didn't notice, good to know
I don't mind the looks of engine 82, but with California being the brush fire capital, I would not want it out on a fire. Give me the traditional diesel engines over electric vehicle's anytime.
thats not a brush engine
@@JinxedHer you are right, it was my understanding that it would be a front line rig.
@@JinxedHer same difference really for responding to structural fires: you need a generator and fuel brought in to charge the engine while you need just a single tanker of diesel to fuel a half dozen companies
my thoughts exactly…it’s a liability at long scenes
@@bostonrailfan2427 it comes with its own backup generator and fuel tank as backup plan (and nothing else than a backup!) already. It's for the rare but possible incidents where it might be necessary. As it was tested in real life conditions at some of the busiest stations in Berlin, the backup generator kicked in 9 times in 13 months
Don't use that siren and horn too much or you'll run out of juice!
Glad to see from the other comments that I'm not the only one that doesn't like this thing.
This is a UK look 😞OLD school please
No it is Austrian
I hate it so much whenever some American calls something European "UK". You like it when someone calls American things "Apache tribe looking"?
that new Rig looks like 🗑.
@Stephen Arnett exactly I love the electric engine. Plus if they purchase more of these they go to 61 67,5,13,29,84,26,92,96,99,100,101,103,106,107,109,70,50,and so many other stations. Or they purchase the pierce engine too .
@Stephen Arnett agreed but what they spent on that one Electric rig. they could have got two regular engines.
Loam
Lmao!
Very European looking, but what else would you expect from _Rosenbauer._ Of course this _"All Electric Fire Truck"_ is assigned to the *Hollywood district,* to appease the beautiful Green people and protect them from "climate change".
Wonder how long it will stay in service this time? Not impressed with it, looks worse than European fire apparatus.
how can it look worse than European apparatus when it's an European apparatus?
@@EnjoyFirefighting it actually looks much worse then original RT, IMHO, they tried to apply a futuristic look of Rosenbauer America vehicles, and thus it looks shit.
Looks like a box with wheels. No personality. Smoke Eaters should drive Trucks that emit Smoke. It just makes sense.
All those smoke eaters that are now dying from Cancer or other respiratory diseases
I am sorry but we can't respond to your house in fire we are recharging our fire truck. We will be there im 45 mins
No need to recharge this one, as it has a range-extender (diesel).
Looks hideous 🥴
Not right at all
Nah, I don't like that Hawthorne and Torrance police ass siren. Rosenbaur did a great job, but it doesn't look like a traditional fire engine, and I'm not a fan of an electric apparatus. Smh
They probably have to have a “real” engine 82, because after a run with any kind of distance or service, like a pump, the batteries would be drained and it would take a bit to recharge? Can’t be out of service that way..
Let them do electric chiefs cars and maybe biodiesel rigs…all SF rigs run on some form of that fuel today. But all electric…call me old fashioned but…😣
Well, this thing can sustain up to 2 hours running at it's MAX power output and since it's never really going to be pushed that far you can imagine it can run for some hours. It's not all electric anyway, they installed a backup diesel generator in case is needs more energy in large scale/long term emergencies. They still have the '"real" engine 82' as you put it, because this engine is basically the first of it's kind, of course it won't run completely perfect yet like any new thing.
nope, i don't like it
an electric engine…carrying hundreds if gallons of water..using a water pump…nope, nothing bad can happen there 🙄
PR trumps common sense nowadays but gotta look like the city is making an impact
The LAFD didn't become one of the best in the world by doing things for PR. You sound idiotic lol please use the critical thinking skills that you were taught back in school.
electric vehicles are used elsewhere for a couple of years now ...
@@EnjoyFirefighting and this is the first time it’s a life and death use and will show its limitations
@@bostonrailfan2427 uhm no? This isn't the first one out there, why would you think it's the first time that it's tested in life and death scenarios now?
a diesel gas engine…used to go into dangerous place... with burning flames…nope, nothing bad can happen there 🙄, see how it sounds worse when you flip it around? Both the diesel and electric engines could be dangerous with this kind of machinery
Jesus saves
Junk
ew
That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen
It’s ugly. Looks like a city bus 😆
Don't like it leave that back in London England
It comes from Austria
Don't like European things from "London England"? Alright, we'll stop selling them to Indian tribe Montana!
Well it ain't American boy
So ugly, makes me sick, and this is a very unrealsitic and unrelible truck and dont try to fight me on it, the truck sucks.
"this is very unrealsitic" First, it's unrealistic*, secondly how is it 'unrealsitic' if your seeing it being used in real life heading out to a call. And how is it unreliable? It can last for hours and has a backup diesel generator
@@creepertech9872 Sorry for the typo, a little triggered? Well one the fact that you need rely on a diesel generator is not very promosing, It cost $300k more then the diesel trucks, pumps %40 less water & needs a diesel "extender" engine to make it useful. Second off the truck have a tank burst and was out of service for 2 months, came back and has been in service for a few weeks with already present issues.
@@406fish1 It doesn't 'rely' on the diesel generator, it's the backup just in case. And of course it would go out of service after it breaks, this is one of the first of it's kind we still need to develop this tech. That's why there's backups. If we don't test new things how will we progress
😬😬😬😬 very cringe
Dont really like it....it feels too europeanish man...
That's because it is a European apparatus
ROTFLMAO
Disgusting.
Asf🤮🤮🤮
It’s ugly 😂
Lame
NO just NO
Nice!
Can you film a video of the truck on scene of a fire or something? Thanks!