"Job is a big problem for people who believe in karma, reincarnation, or prosperity teachings. These teachings cannot coincide with the Bible.....Job is the elephant in the room for health and wealth teachers." Spot on, Melissa.
Another book you might point them to is Lamentations. God is lamenting the loss of Jerusalem and as God couldn't he create prosperity for the Holy city?
I had a coworker whose son was dying of cancer, was divorced, and losing her job because of absentiesm. witnessed to her using the book of Job. Her and her family accepted Christ. She lost her job, the son went on to glory, and she found a new job, a new husband, and is now vice president at a marketing coorporation. Praise be God! And that this book can be used to win one to Christ. People tend to forget the treasure is Lord, and this existence on earth is nothing to be sentimental about
@@Servant_of_Yeshua96 i could write a short story about it, and how providentially God provided the right people at the right time. It was one those moments of perfect clarity and perfect praise. There is a Savior and his name is Jesus, and He is Alive.
Praise Jesus God. What if your friend never got those treasures? What would her Heart still belong to God? I believe you have received the shallow interpretation of the Job story
You nailed it on some of the suffering's "fruit." My adult child came out as transgender 3 years ago. The last few years have brought a lot of turmoil for me internally. But I was thinking about some of the long-term fruit from this season. 1. I went from praying for my kids as I thought about it to interceding for them daily. 2. This period has obliterated any pride I had in my parenting. If my kids grow up to be men of God, I know fully it is 100% God's doing. 3. This time, it has revealed idolatry in my heart. I did not know that I loved my family more than God. If you had asked me if I put them before God before this trial I would have said no. But now I know the truth. I have my husband & kids before God in my heart. I worship the creation here instead of the Creator.
Praise God for His Goodness, love comes in so many forms, one form is showing affection, but another form of love is correction. God loves us and wants to be complete in Christ Jesus. I pray you and your family will be together in heaven. That they all make the personal decision to make Jesus Christ their LORD and savior and go down the narrow path all the way to heaven. i pray the blood of Jesus of =ver you and your family in Jesus name amen.
I went through something similar. Nothing like completely unable to speak or move as everything around you that you loved and worked for is wreaked. you become Speechless and completely reliant in the goodness of God. Praise God for not having any options than to worship Him in such a time to see you through. We are but vapor.
Adam made the same mistake..its good to draw lessons from scripture so as to avoid making the same mistake. Mankind has suffered so much because Adam joined his wife.
Last year I was reading Job and noticed how his "friends" reaction to Job was like the "Holier Than Though" church member today can be. They were criticizing him and condemning him but not one of them took the time to seek how they could help. None offered to even physically help him with the soars. None of them came along side Job and offered to provide a meal or help with his work. They listened to Job, but just to find something to condemn him.
In contrast to the young man who points out their errors, but also speaks Truth in love to Job as well who needed to hear, "Even you Job, are imperfect, but God still has His plans that you don't get-trust Him!"
The Salvation Army is still today a church, but they found when they originally started that people wanted help with the physical needs and then they were open to the spiritual needs. In our community I work for a tax-exempt organization that works with those that need a hand (clothes for job hunting, financial mentoring, furniture, and basic toiletries to help them get up and the Salvation Army Church in this valley is always there to help. For me I found I am much more open to hear how I need to change and grow when someone first comes along side and helps with the physical needs.
In 15 minutes, you just gave a master class on Job. This hit me right in the gut. I am going through some bad health problems & found myself asking over & over why God won't heal me. I need to accept this as a trial & never doubt that God loves me, as I love Him. Thank you for this Melissa. Excellent insight!
Praying for God to continue to uplift you and give you strength during your health struggles! Praise God these worldly bodies won’t trap our spirits forever!❤️🩹
@missbuckeye, @Irasm5604, praying for reprieve and healing in your lives and for your enduring strength through your suffering. I know it’s often easier said than done but remember that we are assured and promised ever lasting life in actual physically resurrected bodies without suffering to come. These will be our actual bodies of this life but made transformed from our suffering state. These tribulations won’t last eternity. Whatever suffering we face in this world, whatever happens to our bodies here, can’t detract or take away from what is to come. We haven’t lost anything here as long as we remain of faith, all our loss and suffering is temporary. “It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body" (1 Corinthians 15:42) I found a good summary online of what Paul goes on to tell us in verse 42-44 which in a nutshell I hope may give you encouragement. “He says that our current bodies are weak, perishable, unglorified, and natural. But in the resurrection state they will be powerful, imperishable, glorious, and spiritual. Our bodies will be powerful--they will not be subject to stress or fatigue or weakness. Our bodies will be imperishable--they will not get sick, die, age, or become injured. Our bodies will be spiritual--they will be fully oriented to and filled with the Holy Spirit. And our bodies will be glorious” I have found everything in scripture to literally breath this truth to come - yet so many people seem to think our bodies will die here on earth and we will only have some form of spiritual salvation. They miss that we are promised salvation of our actual bodies that we have today! A physical resurrection just like Christ. So whatever you ailments or burdens, even those that are chronic and death itself, are not forever. What we lose is not eternal. I pray maybe this gives you some peace through your current suffering; it has for me and my own ailments that I carry in this world. I won’t pretend I don’t worry or fret in this world (I try not to); but I confess my worry and every time I go to our Father in pray with my burdens and to His word, it is truths like this that His good grace comforts me and reminds me that all I have to do is simply submit to Him in faith. His will and my will are often different - but His will is ALWAYS for our good even when all we can see is suffering. Job has saved me many times - for anything Job lost in his life, his suffering had purpose for literally millions of people like us who needed to understand God’s sovereignty in the face of suffering and call to simply love and trust him. Good bless you all.
@missbuckeye, my sympathies are with you. When I was 7, I was almost murdered, and have two major disabilities I've had to live with for the last sixty - four years. Currently, I'm being harassed by a cousin who is a psychopath. We hang on because God hangs on to us first.
This month on the 15th will make 3 years since my beautiful daughter went Home. She was 14 years old. I suffer every day. I miss her terribly! Since her passing, this horrible journey that my husband, myself, and our four boys are now on, has brought us closer to God. We lean on Him and trust Him completely. We believe in Him and His promises, knowing that we will be with her again. I long for that glorious day. Waiting as patient as I possibly can. Hugging Jesus and thanking Him face to face for His sacrifice, His precious blood is something I look forward to. I’m beyond ready to kiss my daughters beautiful face, and be in the most wonderful paradise😍 Until Heaven..🤍
I prayed for you this evening. It will be 3 years in November that my 18-year-old son went to his heavenly home and I understand your suffering and also your longing for heaven. I am closer to the Lord than ever before and I continue to praise and adore Him no matter my circumstances. Just as a side note from one grieving mom to another, there are a couple of books that have really helped me and in case you have not read them and are interested, they are...'Seasons of Sorrow' by Tim Challies and 'Heaven' by Randy Alcorn.
@@thefrenchbluecottage4371 I just want to thank you so, very much! You will be in my prayers for as long as I breathe. The pain from being separated from our children is the absolute worst pain that can ever be experienced. I hate it every day, but yes, this journey has certainly brought me closer to God, and I do love that. I call it a “Beautiful Pain”. I’m incredibly thankful for His peace and comfort. Also, thank you for your suggestion of the books. I have read “Heaven”, it has helped. I will be looking into getting the other one. I pray you have a beautiful, peaceful day🤍
I used to get mad when i would go through trials. And I remember telling God I'm not Job... But i kept praying and asking God to give me strength to get through it and he does. I learned I had to trust him and he will never leave me nor forsake me. He also revealed to me that sometimes he allows us to go through hard times to strengthen our faith so that we would not deny him like Peter did at the beginning of his walk with God. I understood what he told me. So now when i go through trials, i ask God for strenght and of course i pray often I fast and i say the bible verse in Job, though he slay me yet I will trust him. And i feel peace God is so awesome Amen 🙏
Listening to this book for the first time; the thing that stands out to me is the images of these beasts at the end, and those beasts are under God. We can try as we might to understand God, but we will always fall short. Trying to understand everything about God, is like seeing the sky and space through a keyhole. God has power we can't even scratch an understanding about, but he has it, he can see and understand things we can't even dream about.
I went through a really terrible break up years ago. Right before my fiance moved on with somebody else, he told me to look at the book of Job. That the whole point was to ask for more of God in our lives. I've had to face this deeply painful truth--letting God be enough-- during times of deep deep rejection and disappointment in my life. It's gotten to a point where it's been too much for me. I've had to learn the painful truth that God is truly enough even if I am alone single and miserable.
I am sorry you went through that. I've also been through a bad break up. My conclusion was, that the relationship wasn’t meant to be. And it was a good thing for me that my relationship ended. God bless you. And everything will be okay.
What a jerk he dumps you probably because he was seeing some one behind your back since he left you for another person and tell you to read Job. I would probably throw the Bible at him and hope he gets a bump on his head from it.
As someone who just went through a wave of being overcome by lust and shame, Job really hits home for me. I've binged a whole bunch of your videos during that time Melissa, and it's really strengthened my relationship with God, even in my weakness! Thank you so much for sharing this clip, I think all Christians need to hear this!
I love this insight on Job. I agree, and digest this angle on how he saves us through the fire, not from it. The gold standard within us is proven when we suffer and still hang on to the hem of his robes. It's so easy to surrender to blame him for your troubles, but if we see that it's for his glory, and our growth in him, then our faith becomes stronger and more mature. This is a great lesson. Thank you Melissa, and God bless you ✝️
Once again, Melissa, you never fail to give me clarity on a tough topic. I never saw Job like this before. And that analogy between Jesus and the offering was mind blowing! Thank you, sister. Thank you to all the brothers and sisters for the likes. Grace to you and peace from God. Thank you, Melissa for the heart! Bless you, sister!!
I've read the narrative as Job performing the rituals in the beginning to Job finally seeing God for who He is and repenting in Job 40:42:6. Suffering reveals the motives behind our actions. It is so easy to get into our ritualistic routines, which can be good things like Job offering sacrifices or Christians going to church/mass, thinking that is what pleases God, yet we miss what God really desires...for us to repent and trust Him because of how great and awesome He is.
Job is a wisdom book. It discusses what usually happens in normal circumstances. However Job opens with a BTS view that shows us that his situation is anything but normal
The way you made the comparison of satans philosophy of self, bowing to no one, being his own god to new thought and how people and even the church believe is brilliant. Obvious now that i think about it but personally never made that link myself. You have a gift of teaching!
Melissa ~ Thank you so much for touching on the book of Job. If I am honest, it's not a book I understood well. When you mentioned "God provokes to expose"...that hit me like a ton of bricks.
Few months ago, I studied Job. I was surprised when I looked at Job’s offering for his children and realized it wasn’t because they were sinning. This interpretation, I’ve heard so often and the Bible doesn’t say they were sinning. There are so many gems in the Bible.
Who makes the offering for HIS CHILDREN? Jesus Christ. Job is a prophet who foretells Jesus Christ! The most righteous man on ever who suffered not for his own sins but so he could see God face to face and increase his children and make offering for his children and defeat the power of darkness and NOT SIN WITH HIS LIPS.
Yes it says that Job was so holy he sacrificed animals to atone for the sin of his children in case they cursed God in their hearts.. and ironically the devil wanted the greatest aspect and holiest part of Job to deny God which was just that.. the devil wanted Job to curse God in his heart.
I would have to agree. I experienced this in Jan 22. My son stopped speaking to me. And after the first day of crying and being woes me.I dove so far into the word of God that I actually say it was the BEST thing that could have happened. 🙌✝ The Bible Recap is a good "recap" of the book.
Thirty five years after my born again baptism, I lost absolutely everything. All I owned was what I could fit in my seabag. I was homeless. I refused to curse God. instead, I put the blame on myself. Turns out there was a reason for this. I wasn't where God wanted me to be or doing what He wanted me to do. I was too stubborn to follow His guidance. This was, literally, a holy stun gun to get me moving and in the right direction. Once there, the blessings just rained down.
Yes! This is such an important conversation. A good book on the topic of suffering is “The Blessing of Brokenness” by Charles Stanley. Phew! Heavy topic but - so vital for us to not ignore, but embrace and run to God in.
Well said, Melissa. Don't be discouraged because so few want to hear this message. I have been through this many times in my long life. Stand fast for our Lord. Bruce Howard, MG
Wonderful analysis, and I agree with you. I was actually privileged to teach The Book of Job in AP English 12 in public school several times. It always blew the kids' minds. Funny story: After reading the last chapter, one group of my teens were highly incensed because Job got all new kids at the end. They said, "What about his old kids? They, like, just died, and he was happy because he got new ones?" Also, I have to mention that verse in the first chapter that you quoted about where Satan said he had had been walking to and fro in the earth. That always runs a chill up my spine. He's still doing the same thing today.
I just finished Job so this was right on time. I have heard a few different takes on it but I love your last point. Job is a beautiful example for all Christians. He is faithful to God even when it seems he has every reason not to be. The NT tells us to offer ourselves as a living sacrifice and Job is a wonderful demonstration of that.
Preach, sister! The holy post made a comment this week that the goal of the church isn't and should never have been "effectiveness". The goal of the church should be "fidelity". Same energy.
Finishing Job tomorrow for the 3rd time. What I got out of it this time around is that it is not for me to always know the why of trials but just to trust that God’s ways are beyond my ability to comprehend but because He is God He is always good and I am always safe within His hands.
Great insight and presentation of Job. I also really liked what you said about Satan’s Philosophy (@12:51) of “Me First” and how Satan fell because of pride, and therefore bows to know one (his own god). Your statement of this being like the “religion of man” only wanting to serve themselves and no one else (the gospel) was excellent. Thanks again for this, I am learning allot from you.
" when being a believer isn't convenient, fun or comfortable anymore are you still going to worship Him? Will we be obedient thru it all? I think that's the heart of the issue." (end quote. 7:26). Exactly Melissa, where do our true loyalties lie? Will we still trust and love our Lord Jesus completely even in the darkest of times?
A good reminder. Thank you! Especially for your last point. Maybe you should make that video on it's own. I once came across a Christian who believed that, because of his faith he would never get sick. My husband and I tried to point out the problems with this stance but he did not listen. I pray that God changes his heart.
Good commentary. I agree. From personal experience I know why it rains on the just and unjust. We felt the pain on occassion when anther family menber lived in sin. We still remained faithful to the Lord although at the time we wondered why we suffered. Yes, God exposes who we really are by how we respond to situations. It's His call.
I heard a Prosperity Pastor who said very loudly " there are no answers in the book of Job. I just shook my head. I am in total agreement with you Mellisa in you analysis that suffering/ trails produce a unshakeable faith, and a sure footing in the Lord. 1 Peter 1:6 In all this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. 7These have come so that the proven genuineness of your faith-of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire-may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.,,and, Hebrews 2:10In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered.,,,,,,, I'm with you, there is plenty to be learned here.
Thank you very much for this study. The account of Job is one of my very favorite in the Bible. The insight you provided is greatly appreciated from this book full of great treasures.
After decades of suffering and prior to that not understanding this important text, I have to give this a hearty AMEN! Well said Melissa. I would like to see you do a deeper dive into Job honesty.
I know You're able and I know You can, save through the fire with Your mighty hand. But even if You don't, my hope is You alone. ❤ Lyrics from MercyMe - Even If
🦋thank you for sharing your beliefs and knowledge. Job is indeed a hard one that keeps showing lessons to me. I realize in my own life that I’ve turned on God in trouble with “What did I do to deserve this. I’ve been a good person. And asked forgiveness when I’ve been wrong”. I was so wrong. I will continue being wrong and hopefully God will point this out with the knowledge of why
I really suffered when I came to the Lord 49 years ago. In my extreme weakness the Lord was in my life in the midst of all my suffering. I would never want to return there ever again. But the Lord was so real in the midst of all the pain. That's really the only thing I received in going through down town hell. In NIV instead of sons of God, it says, angels.
Amen and thank you, Melissa, I've read and studied Job many times, youve even given very similar insights Ive gotten from out if the Book of Job. It the midst of his sufferings and losses and even his wife and friends coming against him as well throughout to the end, I've even noticed he never cursed nor sinned against God as Satan thought he would have had as well. Job, he might have gone through so much, he was also accounted unto righteousness by God and spoken about in the new testament. As the Book of Job is pointing to Christ, I still go to this book often, not only to be inspired, but as an encouragement and reminder, that God's Sovereign providence is always near in the midst of my sufferings as well as even in good days, I'm always thankful for what I have, to be content with and without, with blessings and losses, and more. And, because of Him alone, He is my only Hope and only One I fully trust. Ive been through much, but I will continue to hope and trust Him more and more. God bless you Melissa. And thank you, its been a blessing when you've shared these points from the Book of Job. 🤗📖🙏🕊❤️
Job 19:25-26 (KJV) 25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: 26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Thank you, this is THE best message on Job I’ve heard yet. So very helpful. ❤ I’m reading through the Bible for the first time and was trying to figure out my negative feelings while in the Old Testament (haven’t made it to the NT yet!). It finally dawned on me…some of it I don’t WANT to be true! Which led me to realize that many people probably are “I-don’t-want-to-believe’ers” rather than are true “non-believers”. It would affect their lives too much and they don’t want that.
That’s a bummer that the person bringing up Job in the beginning has not been able to get a good answer after going to church for so long. I feel like a good through-the-Bible church brings clarity for the tough questions
Good churches are hard to find now a days. When i was young we went to an awesome church. I thought all churches were like this but, like many had made poor decisions from greedy men began to fall and finding one like it hasnt been easy. Took for granted what we had.
@@hithere8140 sorry to hear that. Id highly recommend my church, located near Portland, OR. Atheycreek Christian Fellowship. They have live streaming services. Obviously id recommend a good church you can physically go to, but you can get fed here in the meantime.
Thank you for your insight and interpretation of Job. This is extremely helpful. As humans, we are quick to blame others for our own sufferings. We should always look inward at ourselves and love God no matter our circumstances or situation. May God bless you all.
Studying and reading the book of Job now. Thank you the insight of understanding it from different viewpoints and helping to see a new light regarding God, Satan and us as humans. Suffering will show your true beliefs and who you trust in a time when you think all is against you.
Incredible video Melissa. I can’t tell you how much I enjoyed this and how much I got out of it. Your best video to date. Thank you!! I came to the Lord late in life and am reading the Bible all the way through for the first time this year, and I admit, I struggled with the Book of Job and did not entirely understand it. I had a very tenuous grasp on the concepts within, but after watching this, I can’t wait to re-read it. ✝️ ❤️
A little comment regarding what you said about 2020. If I'm really honest, I was very discouraged from 2020-2021 not by the virus, politics, or social concerns but by why I saw people who professed to Christian in US do when those events occurred. I know we have dropped the ball and have a long ways to go here in the US (and before anyone says it, yes I know, last days), but the embarrassing egg we too those two years really broke my heart. I guess I was hoping a little two much that this could be one time were we really show Christ to the country like how the Church has done historically in times of crisis. Fortunately, I have come out a bit wiser from that situation. Hopefully next crisis, I can be a bit more focused on why God wants me to do, and I can be used to bless others and even share or remind them of the Gospel. I pray I can do that next time around, Lord willing.
Thank you for providing some insight into the book of Job. You brought some details to light, which make it very applicable to our days and times. We are on the sifting floor right now and the battle between God and Satan seems every bit as strong. God bless!
You've made some brilliant points and brought clarity to a difficult book. So so true. I grew spiritually and my love for and dependence on God has grown more in the last 5 years of what has felt like attacks on all fronts, than i did in the former 5 years when it was pretty smooth sailing. I'd never wish my pain and trials on anyone, but at the same time I'm so thankful for what God has taught me as He brought me through it all. I recently discovered my baptism testimony i wrote 10 years ago, and read something i had forgotten all about: there was a time right before i was born again that at a very low point i said from the depths of my soul "God help me to rely only on You". Didnt know why i even said that, where it came from. But within months i was radically saved, and now having gone (and still going) through immense trials i can see God has answered my prayer through my suffering. Thank You Lord. Sorry wrote more than i planned to but God is so good and your wonderful video really resonated with me. Don't give up hope brothers and sisters in Christ, there is a better day coming, God is faithful to not only see you through but grow and bless you in ways you never thought possible.❤
Wonderful points to this very important part of scripture. I have studied Job for decades and find that each time the Lord reveals more and more of himself and gives me a deeper understanding of himself. Job is one of the richest and complex books in the Bible but it is full of great wisdom. I agree that we need to set aside our own experiences and, in a sense, biases and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the fullness and the depth of God’s love for us in the entire book of God’s Word including the treasure found in the book of Job. I also struggled with understanding Job when I read it the first few times until I realized I was making the same error as Job’s three friends. I was leaning on my own understanding instead of trusting in the wisdom of God. Blessings to you.
I'm horrible at putting my thoughts into words. God has used the book of Job to comfort me and check my attitude much over the years. Thank you for this video!
This video came precisely at the best time possible for me. I’m struggling and It’s really, really tough to pray my love for the lord when I feel the devil is playing with me and constantly trying to beat me down. But I have not given up, I was actually thinking of Job and his struggle before watching this video. You are beautiful soul, thank you so much, I have subscribed. God bless you and everyone who is struggling at this moment.
There is so much insight in your take on Job. I loved the discernment contrasting the point that Job's sons were already sanctified before the burnt offerings to honor the Lord. I have never considered that point. Yes, symbolism of Jesus is rich in Job, even chapter 38 that talks of when the cornerstone was laid. My favorite is: Job 19:25-26; “As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, And at the last He will take His stand on the earth. Even after my skin is destroyed, Yet from my flesh I shall see God;" Blessings, Look Up!
Great video. I confirmed a lot. May God be with you. I was affirmed that I am not alone in my way of thinking and how I see and understand things. Praise be to God.
"...sometimes God provokes to expose." You hit the nail on the head with this comment about what is going on in the US and the world. I believe that He has provoked this to begin to weed the chaff from the grain.
Thank you for going over the book of Job. The first few chapters are a little complicated for one to understand. You had cleared it up very nice. Have a wonderful day
I love the book of Job. Had I not done a deep dive on this years ago I honestly don’t know if I would have made it through the hardest time of my life.
Like you said, there is a theological debate going on throughout this book. When my pastor went through Job a few years ago, I remember he pointed out how Job's friends had a theological/worldview perspective of God that if you "do good, you get good...if you do bad, you get bad". Therefore, in their minds, Job "must have" done something wrong...Job says, nope, I didn't do anything wrong... We learn a lot about God and evaluating our worldview by studying this book and going through trials ourselves. Thanks for the great video!
I feel that my wife and I are, have been in a Job like story for that past decad. Multiple back to back deaths in the family, her on going health struggles, job losses and financial struggles. I think the worst for her for a while was her being told by family memebers that you're not pregnant because you don't have faith, you're not heald because you don't have faith, but in a way this also brought her back into reading the bible more.
I loved this thank you. I grew up learning about Job and it’s always a nice reminder. As we age this book of the Bible becomes more and more important.
Wholeheartedly agree with your example in Job...it's not a book that most people get first time...but his example is really good evidence here in the last days " we all came here naked , and naked we all can leave again "
Great video. If we understand that the Bible is an unfolding testimony of Christ then we will understand what God is doing through Job. He lived probably around Abraham's time, and the idea of suffering despite being in good standing was revolutionary, yet this is the suffering servant that was coming in the Messiah. It's a brilliant book, one of my favorite.
This was very good. Job and his friends believed in a false doctrine, be good and God will be good to you. That’s why Job’s friends kept telling him to confess his sin. Job had not done anything to warrant the attack, however his friends sure thought so. Job came to understand the rain falls on the just and the unjust, he said at the end of the book Job 42:5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. Oswald Chambers taught me that, among other things, his book on Job is really good. I lost my family ten years ago due to a very, very unfaithful and narcissistic spouse and I am still without family. I was asking the Lord today, “why?”
Good word Melissa. First video I’ve watched but subscribing, because it’s good. Lamentations in Hebrew means “how”, this is a good reminder from God’s word that our heart cry of how long is always answered by a promise of sustainment and fulfilled promises, secured in the blood of God’s son. Be blessed.
Hi Melissa thank you for your service, I recommend you to review the video of David Wood following his son passing away, using pain for the good cause which is sharing the good news
Great video, Melissa - you make some great points. People who want to talk about theodicy as if it's something new or that they're the first person to ever think of it make me laugh. The LORD foresaw your objections long ago and even made sure to include a book in scripture addressing it. How can He allow the innocent to suffer? The answer is right there in the question; we are NOT innocent, not a single one of us. Our guilt - us being a sinner - is not in our actions, it's who we are. I'm not a sinner because I sin, I sin because I am a sinner. Let us just be grateful that He doesn't deal with us as we truly deserve because we'd no longer be here if He did. If the road in life gets bumpy along the way, instead of getting angry at Him for allowing it, we should thank Him for getting us through it when it happens.
"Job is a big problem for people who believe in karma, reincarnation, or prosperity teachings. These teachings cannot coincide with the Bible.....Job is the elephant in the room for health and wealth teachers."
Spot on, Melissa.
Another book you might point them to is Lamentations. God is lamenting the loss of Jerusalem and as God couldn't he create prosperity for the Holy city?
I had a coworker whose son was dying of cancer, was divorced, and losing her job because of absentiesm. witnessed to her using the book of Job. Her and her family accepted Christ. She lost her job, the son went on to glory, and she found a new job, a new husband, and is now vice president at a marketing coorporation. Praise be God! And that this book can be used to win one to Christ. People tend to forget the treasure is Lord, and this existence on earth is nothing to be sentimental about
Yes but that can be hard to see and accept.
@@Servant_of_Yeshua96 i could write a short story about it, and how providentially God provided the right people at the right time. It was one those moments of perfect clarity and perfect praise. There is a Savior and his name is Jesus, and He is Alive.
Praise Jesus God. What if your friend never got those treasures? What would her Heart still belong to God? I believe you have received the shallow interpretation of the Job story
You nailed it on some of the suffering's "fruit." My adult child came out as transgender 3 years ago. The last few years have brought a lot of turmoil for me internally. But I was thinking about some of the long-term fruit from this season. 1. I went from praying for my kids as I thought about it to interceding for them daily. 2. This period has obliterated any pride I had in my parenting. If my kids grow up to be men of God, I know fully it is 100% God's doing. 3. This time, it has revealed idolatry in my heart. I did not know that I loved my family more than God. If you had asked me if I put them before God before this trial I would have said no. But now I know the truth. I have my husband & kids before God in my heart. I worship the creation here instead of the Creator.
Praise God for His Goodness, love comes in so many forms, one form is showing affection, but another form of love is correction. God loves us and wants to be complete in Christ Jesus. I pray you and your family will be together in heaven. That they all make the personal decision to make Jesus Christ their LORD and savior and go down the narrow path all the way to heaven. i pray the blood of Jesus of =ver you and your family in Jesus name amen.
@@LordJesusEvangelism3158 thank you.
Amen!
I went through something similar. Nothing like completely unable to speak or move as everything around you that you loved and worked for is wreaked. you become Speechless and completely reliant in the goodness of God. Praise God for not having any options than to worship Him in such a time to see you through. We are but vapor.
Adam made the same mistake..its good to draw lessons from scripture so as to avoid making the same mistake.
Mankind has suffered so much because Adam joined his wife.
Last year I was reading Job and noticed how his "friends" reaction to Job was like the "Holier Than Though" church member today can be. They were criticizing him and condemning him but not one of them took the time to seek how they could help. None offered to even physically help him with the soars. None of them came along side Job and offered to provide a meal or help with his work. They listened to Job, but just to find something to condemn him.
Yes!!! This.. I noticed this too.
Very interesting insight. Thanks for sharing!
In contrast to the young man who points out their errors, but also speaks Truth in love to Job as well who needed to hear, "Even you Job, are imperfect, but God still has His plans that you don't get-trust Him!"
The Salvation Army is still today a church, but they found when they originally started that people wanted help with the physical needs and then they were open to the spiritual needs. In our community I work for a tax-exempt organization that works with those that need a hand (clothes for job hunting, financial mentoring, furniture, and basic toiletries to help them get up and the Salvation Army Church in this valley is always there to help. For me I found I am much more open to hear how I need to change and grow when someone first comes along side and helps with the physical needs.
Job's friends were sent by Satan.
In 15 minutes, you just gave a master class on Job. This hit me right in the gut. I am going through some bad health problems & found myself asking over & over why God won't heal me. I need to accept this as a trial & never doubt that God loves me, as I love Him. Thank you for this Melissa. Excellent insight!
Me too , tired of being sick , but it has become a blessing over 25 years because I long to get out of here
Praying for God to continue to uplift you and give you strength during your health struggles! Praise God these worldly bodies won’t trap our spirits forever!❤️🩹
@missbuckeye, @Irasm5604, praying for reprieve and healing in your lives and for your enduring strength through your suffering.
I know it’s often easier said than done but remember that we are assured and promised ever lasting life in actual physically resurrected bodies without suffering to come. These will be our actual bodies of this life but made transformed from our suffering state. These tribulations won’t last eternity. Whatever suffering we face in this world, whatever happens to our bodies here, can’t detract or take away from what is to come. We haven’t lost anything here as long as we remain of faith, all our loss and suffering is temporary.
“It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body" (1 Corinthians 15:42)
I found a good summary online of what Paul goes on to tell us in verse 42-44 which in a nutshell I hope may give you encouragement.
“He says that our current bodies are weak, perishable, unglorified, and natural. But in the resurrection state they will be powerful, imperishable, glorious, and spiritual. Our bodies will be powerful--they will not be subject to stress or fatigue or weakness. Our bodies will be imperishable--they will not get sick, die, age, or become injured. Our bodies will be spiritual--they will be fully oriented to and filled with the Holy Spirit. And our bodies will be glorious”
I have found everything in scripture to literally breath this truth to come - yet so many people seem to think our bodies will die here on earth and we will only have some form of spiritual salvation. They miss that we are promised salvation of our actual bodies that we have today! A physical resurrection just like Christ.
So whatever you ailments or burdens, even those that are chronic and death itself, are not forever. What we lose is not eternal. I pray maybe this gives you some peace through your current suffering; it has for me and my own ailments that I carry in this world.
I won’t pretend I don’t worry or fret in this world (I try not to); but I confess my worry and every time I go to our Father in pray with my burdens and to His word, it is truths like this that His good grace comforts me and reminds me that all I have to do is simply submit to Him in faith. His will and my will are often different - but His will is ALWAYS for our good even when all we can see is suffering.
Job has saved me many times - for anything Job lost in his life, his suffering had purpose for literally millions of people like us who needed to understand God’s sovereignty in the face of suffering and call to simply love and trust him.
Good bless you all.
LORD help & heal & guide you all.
@missbuckeye, my sympathies are with you. When I was 7, I was almost murdered, and have two major disabilities I've had to live with for the last sixty - four years. Currently, I'm being harassed by a cousin who is a psychopath. We hang on because God hangs on to us first.
This month on the 15th will make 3 years since my beautiful daughter went Home. She was 14 years old. I suffer every day. I miss her terribly! Since her passing, this horrible journey that my husband, myself, and our four boys are now on, has brought us closer to God. We lean on Him and trust Him completely. We believe in Him and His promises, knowing that we will be with her again. I long for that glorious day. Waiting as patient as I possibly can. Hugging Jesus and thanking Him face to face for His sacrifice, His precious blood is something I look forward to. I’m beyond ready to kiss my daughters beautiful face, and be in the most wonderful paradise😍 Until Heaven..🤍
I prayed for you this evening. It will be 3 years in November that my 18-year-old son went to his heavenly home and I understand your suffering and also your longing for heaven. I am closer to the Lord than ever before and I continue to praise and adore Him no matter my circumstances. Just as a side note from one grieving mom to another, there are a couple of books that have really helped me and in case you have not read them and are interested, they are...'Seasons of Sorrow' by Tim Challies and 'Heaven' by Randy Alcorn.
@@thefrenchbluecottage4371 I just want to thank you so, very much! You will be in my prayers for as long as I breathe. The pain from being separated from our children is the absolute worst pain that can ever be experienced. I hate it every day, but yes, this journey has certainly brought me closer to God, and I do love that. I call it a “Beautiful Pain”. I’m incredibly thankful for His peace and comfort.
Also, thank you for your suggestion of the books. I have read “Heaven”, it has helped. I will be looking into getting the other one.
I pray you have a beautiful, peaceful day🤍
❤ to both of you.
oh no. i'm sorry for your loss. But praise the Lord that she's with Jesus now!
These are hard lessons as true followers of christ. Even when we have no clue what God is doing, we must trust God and press on.
Well put
I used to get mad when i would go through trials. And I remember telling God I'm not Job... But i kept praying and asking God to give me strength to get through it and he does. I learned I had to trust him and he will never leave me nor forsake me. He also revealed to me that sometimes he allows us to go through hard times to strengthen our faith so that we would not deny him like Peter did at the beginning of his walk with God. I understood what he told me. So now when i go through trials, i ask God for strenght and of course i pray often I fast and i say the bible verse in Job, though he slay me yet I will trust him. And i feel peace God is so awesome Amen 🙏
Listening to this book for the first time; the thing that stands out to me is the images of these beasts at the end, and those beasts are under God. We can try as we might to understand God, but we will always fall short. Trying to understand everything about God, is like seeing the sky and space through a keyhole. God has power we can't even scratch an understanding about, but he has it, he can see and understand things we can't even dream about.
The revelation of who we are through suffering ❤ Beautifully made point.
I went through a really terrible break up years ago. Right before my fiance moved on with somebody else, he told me to look at the book of Job. That the whole point was to ask for more of God in our lives. I've had to face this deeply painful truth--letting God be enough-- during times of deep deep rejection and disappointment in my life. It's gotten to a point where it's been too much for me. I've had to learn the painful truth that God is truly enough even if I am alone single and miserable.
I am sorry you went through that. I've also been through a bad break up. My conclusion was, that the relationship wasn’t meant to be. And it was a good thing for me that my relationship ended. God bless you. And everything will be okay.
What a jerk he dumps you probably because he was seeing some one behind your back since he left you for another person and tell you to read Job. I would probably throw the Bible at him and hope he gets a bump on his head from it.
Proverbs 16:4
“The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.”
As someone who just went through a wave of being overcome by lust and shame, Job really hits home for me. I've binged a whole bunch of your videos during that time Melissa, and it's really strengthened my relationship with God, even in my weakness! Thank you so much for sharing this clip, I think all Christians need to hear this!
The onl;y difference is that We are living in the age of Grace, but God's word does not change.
I love this insight on Job. I agree, and digest this angle on how he saves us through the fire, not from it. The gold standard within us is proven when we suffer and still hang on to the hem of his robes. It's so easy to surrender to blame him for your troubles, but if we see that it's for his glory, and our growth in him, then our faith becomes stronger and more mature. This is a great lesson. Thank you Melissa, and God bless you ✝️
Once again, Melissa, you never fail to give me clarity on a tough topic. I never saw Job like this before. And that analogy between Jesus and the offering was mind blowing! Thank you, sister.
Thank you to all the brothers and sisters for the likes. Grace to you and peace from God.
Thank you, Melissa for the heart! Bless you, sister!!
I've read the narrative as Job performing the rituals in the beginning to Job finally seeing God for who He is and repenting in Job 40:42:6. Suffering reveals the motives behind our actions. It is so easy to get into our ritualistic routines, which can be good things like Job offering sacrifices or Christians going to church/mass, thinking that is what pleases God, yet we miss what God really desires...for us to repent and trust Him because of how great and awesome He is.
I appreciate your biblical insight to the book of Job. Just like so much of scripture which is challenging but there is freedom in God’s Truth
Job is a wisdom book. It discusses what usually happens in normal circumstances. However Job opens with a BTS view that shows us that his situation is anything but normal
Dr Michael Heiser did the best teaching on Job in my opinion..
The way you made the comparison of satans philosophy of self, bowing to no one, being his own god to new thought and how people and even the church believe is brilliant. Obvious now that i think about it but personally never made that link myself. You have a gift of teaching!
Melissa ~ Thank you so much for touching on the book of Job. If I am honest, it's not a book I understood well. When you mentioned "God provokes to expose"...that hit me like a ton of bricks.
Wow. After your video I now even more understand Job as it applies to my current life situation.
Few months ago, I studied Job. I was surprised when I looked at Job’s offering for his children and realized it wasn’t because they were sinning. This interpretation, I’ve heard so often and the Bible doesn’t say they were sinning. There are so many gems in the Bible.
Who makes the offering for HIS CHILDREN? Jesus Christ. Job is a prophet who foretells Jesus Christ! The most righteous man on ever who suffered not for his own sins but so he could see God face to face and increase his children and make offering for his children and defeat the power of darkness and NOT SIN WITH HIS LIPS.
Yes it says that Job was so holy he sacrificed animals to atone for the sin of his children in case they cursed God in their hearts.. and ironically the devil wanted the greatest aspect and holiest part of Job to deny God which was just that.. the devil wanted Job to curse God in his heart.
I would have to agree. I experienced this in Jan 22. My son stopped speaking to me. And after the first day of crying and being woes me.I dove so far into the word of God that I actually say it was the BEST thing that could have happened. 🙌✝ The Bible Recap is a good "recap" of the book.
Dr. Heiser talks about satan and explains the differences really well and uses the original hebrew. awesome videos on this topic.
my suffering drew my so much closer to God. He truly opened my eyes and I know Jesus is coming back soon. Maranatha.
This is gold!
Thirty five years after my born again baptism, I lost absolutely everything. All I owned was what I could fit in my seabag. I was homeless. I refused to curse God. instead, I put the blame on myself. Turns out there was a reason for this. I wasn't where God wanted me to be or doing what He wanted me to do. I was too stubborn to follow His guidance. This was, literally, a holy stun gun to get me moving and in the right direction.
Once there, the blessings just rained down.
Wow, this sounds like the story of jonah!
I like your idea of a Holy stun gun. That's a great to put it.
This is a wonderful teaching. Have lived a Job life and came out loving Him more…
Our family is currently going through the hardest of storms… and I can truly say … suffering has brought me closer to the lord.
Yes! This is such an important conversation.
A good book on the topic of suffering is “The Blessing of Brokenness” by Charles Stanley.
Phew! Heavy topic but - so vital for us to not ignore, but embrace and run to God in.
I am thoroughly convinced that God has no problem allowing individuals to suffer so that they or others may learn valuable lessons.
Well said, Melissa. Don't be discouraged because so few want to hear this message. I have been through this many times in my long life. Stand fast for our Lord.
Bruce Howard, MG
Wonderful analysis, and I agree with you. I was actually privileged to teach The Book of Job in AP English 12 in public school several times. It always blew the kids' minds. Funny story: After reading the last chapter, one group of my teens were highly incensed because Job got all new kids at the end. They said, "What about his old kids? They, like, just died, and he was happy because he got new ones?" Also, I have to mention that verse in the first chapter that you quoted about where Satan said he had had been walking to and fro in the earth. That always runs a chill up my spine. He's still doing the same thing today.
Ive read Job a few times and came to the same conclusions. It is my favorite book in the bible.
I just finished Job so this was right on time. I have heard a few different takes on it but I love your last point. Job is a beautiful example for all Christians. He is faithful to God even when it seems he has every reason not to be. The NT tells us to offer ourselves as a living sacrifice and Job is a wonderful demonstration of that.
Preach, sister! The holy post made a comment this week that the goal of the church isn't and should never have been "effectiveness". The goal of the church should be "fidelity". Same energy.
Finishing Job tomorrow for the 3rd time. What I got out of it this time around is that it is not for me to always know the why of trials but just to trust that God’s ways are beyond my ability to comprehend but because He is God He is always good and I am always safe within His hands.
Great insight and presentation of Job. I also really liked what you said about Satan’s Philosophy (@12:51) of “Me First” and how Satan fell because of pride, and therefore bows to know one (his own god). Your statement of this being like the “religion of man” only wanting to serve themselves and no one else (the gospel) was excellent. Thanks again for this, I am learning allot from you.
" when being a believer
isn't convenient, fun or comfortable anymore are you still going to worship Him? Will we be obedient thru it all? I think that's the heart of the issue." (end quote. 7:26). Exactly Melissa, where do our true loyalties lie? Will we still trust and love our Lord Jesus completely even in the darkest of times?
A good reminder. Thank you! Especially for your last point. Maybe you should make that video on it's own. I once came across a Christian who believed that, because of his faith he would never get sick. My husband and I tried to point out the problems with this stance but he did not listen. I pray that God changes his heart.
If not, getting sick probably will
“The Lord gives, and the Lord has takes away; Blessed be the name of the Lord.” Job 1:21
Good commentary. I agree. From personal experience I know why it rains on the just and unjust. We felt the pain on occassion when anther family menber lived in sin. We still remained faithful to the Lord although at the time we wondered why we suffered. Yes, God exposes who we really are by how we respond to situations. It's His call.
I heard a Prosperity Pastor who said very loudly " there are no answers in the book of Job. I just shook my head. I am in total agreement with you Mellisa in you analysis that suffering/ trails produce a unshakeable faith, and a sure footing in the Lord. 1 Peter 1:6 In all this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. 7These have come so that the proven genuineness of your faith-of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire-may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.,,and, Hebrews 2:10In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered.,,,,,,, I'm with you, there is plenty to be learned here.
Thank you for this, I have chronic pain.
Thank you very much for this study. The account of Job is one of my very favorite in the Bible. The insight you provided is greatly appreciated from this book full of great treasures.
In hard times, worship or compromise, a really good point, thanks.
I love the book of Job it was my first book of the Bible I read completely. It was put in my heart to read this book.
After decades of suffering and prior to that not understanding this important text, I have to give this a hearty AMEN! Well said Melissa.
I would like to see you do a deeper dive into Job honesty.
I know You're able and I know You can, save through the fire with Your mighty hand. But even if You don't, my hope is You alone. ❤
Lyrics from MercyMe - Even If
Melissa you are touching on the book "Letter to the American Church" Love to hear your analysis
🦋thank you for sharing your beliefs and knowledge. Job is indeed a hard one that keeps showing lessons to me. I realize in my own life that I’ve turned on God in trouble with “What did I do to deserve this. I’ve been a good person. And asked forgiveness when I’ve been wrong”. I was so wrong. I will continue being wrong and hopefully God will point this out with the knowledge of why
Thank you for this deeper look! I appreciate your wisdom and encouragement through Christ!
I really suffered when I came to the Lord 49 years ago. In my extreme weakness the Lord was in my life in the midst of all my suffering. I would never want to return there ever again. But the Lord was so real in the midst of all the pain. That's really the only thing I received in going through down town hell. In NIV instead of sons of God, it says, angels.
Amen and thank you, Melissa, I've read and studied Job many times, youve even given very similar insights Ive gotten from out if the Book of Job. It the midst of his sufferings and losses and even his wife and friends coming against him as well throughout to the end, I've even noticed he never cursed nor sinned against God as Satan thought he would have had as well. Job, he might have gone through so much, he was also accounted unto righteousness by God and spoken about in the new testament. As the Book of Job is pointing to Christ, I still go to this book often, not only to be inspired, but as an encouragement and reminder, that God's Sovereign providence is always near in the midst of my sufferings as well as even in good days, I'm always thankful for what I have, to be content with and without, with blessings and losses, and more. And, because of Him alone, He is my only Hope and only One I fully trust. Ive been through much, but I will continue to hope and trust Him more and more. God bless you Melissa. And thank you, its been a blessing when you've shared these points from the Book of Job. 🤗📖🙏🕊❤️
Job 19:25-26 (KJV)
25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Thank you, this is THE best message on Job I’ve heard yet. So very helpful. ❤
I’m reading through the Bible for the first time and was trying to figure out my negative feelings while in the Old Testament (haven’t made it to the NT yet!). It finally dawned on me…some of it I don’t WANT to be true! Which led me to realize that many people probably are “I-don’t-want-to-believe’ers” rather than are true “non-believers”. It would affect their lives too much and they don’t want that.
That’s a bummer that the person bringing up Job in the beginning has not been able to get a good answer after going to church for so long. I feel like a good through-the-Bible church brings clarity for the tough questions
Good churches are hard to find now a days. When i was young we went to an awesome church. I thought all churches were like this but, like many had made poor decisions from greedy men began to fall and finding one like it hasnt been easy. Took for granted what we had.
@@hithere8140 sorry to hear that. Id highly recommend my church, located near Portland, OR. Atheycreek Christian Fellowship. They have live streaming services. Obviously id recommend a good church you can physically go to, but you can get fed here in the meantime.
Thank you for your insight and interpretation of Job. This is extremely helpful. As humans, we are quick to blame others for our own sufferings. We should always look inward at ourselves and love God no matter our circumstances or situation. May God bless you all.
I’m not religious but being raised Christian I do enjoy the discussion of the story and what they mean. It’s pretty fun.
Wow - I really appreciated this talk. Thank you. I never did quite understand Job, but it makes more sense now. God bless you, sweet girl.
Melissa, I appreciate your connection of COVID, the onset of suffering and the sifting of “believers” that resulted. Sad, but valid.
You make excellent points. I love the book of Job. Thank you for a great video.
Studying and reading the book of Job now. Thank you the insight of understanding it from different viewpoints and helping to see a new light regarding God, Satan and us as humans. Suffering will show your true beliefs and who you trust in a time when you think all is against you.
Incredible video Melissa. I can’t tell you how much I enjoyed this and how much I got out of it. Your best video to date. Thank you!! I came to the Lord late in life and am reading the Bible all the way through for the first time this year, and I admit, I struggled with the Book of Job and did not entirely understand it. I had a very tenuous grasp on the concepts within, but after watching this, I can’t wait to re-read it. ✝️ ❤️
A little comment regarding what you said about 2020.
If I'm really honest, I was very discouraged from 2020-2021 not by the virus, politics, or social concerns but by why I saw people who professed to Christian in US do when those events occurred. I know we have dropped the ball and have a long ways to go here in the US (and before anyone says it, yes I know, last days), but the embarrassing egg we too those two years really broke my heart. I guess I was hoping a little two much that this could be one time were we really show Christ to the country like how the Church has done historically in times of crisis.
Fortunately, I have come out a bit wiser from that situation. Hopefully next crisis, I can be a bit more focused on why God wants me to do, and I can be used to bless others and even share or remind them of the Gospel. I pray I can do that next time around, Lord willing.
Thank you for providing some insight into the book of Job. You brought some details to light, which make it very applicable to our days and times. We are on the sifting floor right now and the battle between God and Satan seems every bit as strong. God bless!
Excellent commentary Melissa. TY
You've made some brilliant points and brought clarity to a difficult book. So so true. I grew spiritually and my love for and dependence on God has grown more in the last 5 years of what has felt like attacks on all fronts, than i did in the former 5 years when it was pretty smooth sailing. I'd never wish my pain and trials on anyone, but at the same time I'm so thankful for what God has taught me as He brought me through it all. I recently discovered my baptism testimony i wrote 10 years ago, and read something i had forgotten all about: there was a time right before i was born again that at a very low point i said from the depths of my soul "God help me to rely only on You". Didnt know why i even said that, where it came from. But within months i was radically saved, and now having gone (and still going) through immense trials i can see God has answered my prayer through my suffering. Thank You Lord. Sorry wrote more than i planned to but God is so good and your wonderful video really resonated with me. Don't give up hope brothers and sisters in Christ, there is a better day coming, God is faithful to not only see you through but grow and bless you in ways you never thought possible.❤
Wonderful points to this very important part of scripture. I have studied Job for decades and find that each time the Lord reveals more and more of himself and gives me a deeper understanding of himself. Job is one of the richest and complex books in the Bible but it is full of great wisdom. I agree that we need to set aside our own experiences and, in a sense, biases and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the fullness and the depth of God’s love for us in the entire book of God’s Word including the treasure found in the book of Job. I also struggled with understanding Job when I read it the first few times until I realized I was making the same error as Job’s three friends. I was leaning on my own understanding instead of trusting in the wisdom of God. Blessings to you.
I'm horrible at putting my thoughts into words. God has used the book of Job to comfort me and check my attitude much over the years. Thank you for this video!
You killed this girl, one of my favorite videos so far ❤️
This video came precisely at the best time possible for me. I’m struggling and It’s really, really tough to pray my love for the lord when I feel the devil is playing with me and constantly trying to beat me down. But I have not given up, I was actually thinking of Job and his struggle before watching this video.
You are beautiful soul, thank you so much, I have subscribed. God bless you and everyone who is struggling at this moment.
There is so much insight in your take on Job. I loved the discernment contrasting the point that Job's sons were already sanctified before the burnt offerings to honor the Lord. I have never considered that point. Yes, symbolism of Jesus is rich in Job, even chapter 38 that talks of when the cornerstone was laid. My favorite is:
Job 19:25-26; “As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives,
And at the last He will take His stand on the earth.
Even after my skin is destroyed,
Yet from my flesh I shall see God;"
Blessings,
Look Up!
Great video. I confirmed a lot. May God be with you. I was affirmed that I am not alone in my way of thinking and how I see and understand things. Praise be to God.
This video was rich, meaningful, and wonderful. Thank you so much.
Wow, well said 👏. Continue to be a light in this dark world 🌎.
Job has always been my favorite 🙌🏼❤️🔥🙌🏼
"...sometimes God provokes to expose." You hit the nail on the head with this comment about what is going on in the US and the world. I believe that He has provoked this to begin to weed the chaff from the grain.
You did a good job explaining the book of Job!!
Thank you for going over the book of Job. The first few chapters are a little complicated for one to understand. You had cleared it up very nice. Have a wonderful day
The song “If…” by Beautiful Eulogy gives a great explanation of a Job-like circumstance
👏👏👏 !!! Well done you and thank you for tying up a couple of loose ends for me. Blessings from across the pond🇬🇧🇺🇸
I love the book of Job. Had I not done a deep dive on this years ago I honestly don’t know if I would have made it through the hardest time of my life.
Good bible study. Thank you so much. I am praying for you, Melissa ❤
Like you said, there is a theological debate going on throughout this book. When my pastor went through Job a few years ago, I remember he pointed out how Job's friends had a theological/worldview perspective of God that if you "do good, you get good...if you do bad, you get bad". Therefore, in their minds, Job "must have" done something wrong...Job says, nope, I didn't do anything wrong...
We learn a lot about God and evaluating our worldview by studying this book and going through trials ourselves.
Thanks for the great video!
I feel that my wife and I are, have been in a Job like story for that past decad. Multiple back to back deaths in the family, her on going health struggles, job losses and financial struggles. I think the worst for her for a while was her being told by family memebers that you're not pregnant because you don't have faith, you're not heald because you don't have faith, but in a way this also brought her back into reading the bible more.
I loved this thank you. I grew up learning about Job and it’s always a nice reminder. As we age this book of the Bible becomes more and more important.
Wholeheartedly agree with your example in Job...it's not a book that most people get first time...but his example is really good evidence here in the last days " we all came here naked , and naked we all can leave again "
Wonderful work u do yet we're forever seeking God his thoughts and ways are higher than ours. Forever we will ask seek and knock 🤗🙏
By all means, please delve more into the topic of Job. Love this! Thank you
Great video. If we understand that the Bible is an unfolding testimony of Christ then we will understand what God is doing through Job. He lived probably around Abraham's time, and the idea of suffering despite being in good standing was revolutionary, yet this is the suffering servant that was coming in the Messiah. It's a brilliant book, one of my favorite.
This was very good. Job and his friends believed in a false doctrine, be good and God will be good to you. That’s why Job’s friends kept telling him to confess his sin. Job had not done anything to warrant the attack, however his friends sure thought so. Job came to understand the rain falls on the just and the unjust, he said at the end of the book Job 42:5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. Oswald Chambers taught me that, among other things, his book on Job is really good. I lost my family ten years ago due to a very, very unfaithful and narcissistic spouse and I am still without family. I was asking the Lord today, “why?”
I always look forward to your videos. I learn so much from them. Thank you!!
Job has always been a confusing story for me, in the way that its written, (its very poetic)
Thank you for your insights, its very eyeopening.
Good word Melissa. First video I’ve watched but subscribing, because it’s good. Lamentations in Hebrew means “how”, this is a good reminder from God’s word that our heart cry of how long is always answered by a promise of sustainment and fulfilled promises, secured in the blood of God’s son. Be blessed.
Hi Melissa thank you for your service, I recommend you to review the video of David Wood following his son passing away, using pain for the good cause which is sharing the good news
Yes, I just saw that video yesterday.
Great video, Melissa - you make some great points. People who want to talk about theodicy as if it's something new or that they're the first person to ever think of it make me laugh. The LORD foresaw your objections long ago and even made sure to include a book in scripture addressing it. How can He allow the innocent to suffer? The answer is right there in the question; we are NOT innocent, not a single one of us. Our guilt - us being a sinner - is not in our actions, it's who we are. I'm not a sinner because I sin, I sin because I am a sinner. Let us just be grateful that He doesn't deal with us as we truly deserve because we'd no longer be here if He did. If the road in life gets bumpy along the way, instead of getting angry at Him for allowing it, we should thank Him for getting us through it when it happens.
Thank you Melissa 🕊🌷🕊