I absolutely agree... Thats why there can be slight changes even though i wouldnt know why joel would remember this one doctor sooo different from what he actually looked like... Yk? Like the outfit... I think thats kinda stupid but definitly acceptable... But i still think that ellie looks really shit in the new version with "OK"...
Carl Clark I probably found it less uncanny because Naughty Dog had a very distinct art style in the 7th-Generation of consoles for human characters that I’d already grown accustomed to throughout the Uncharted series. Naughty Dog weren’t trying to make Ellie look realistic. They were trying to make her look believable within the technical limitations they had. Besides, I’m obviously not the only person who feels that way based on the Likes my comment has received.
@@SanchezS1998 39 comments only means so much. Read all the others and you'll find way more that know for a fact that ellie in tlou2 looks like a midget.
The first Last of Us look like Ellen Page on that year 2013 Beyond Two Souls game also came out. Now, they have to change the facial to prevent Ellen Page likeness
@@athenaamiga7679 Bruh seriously? They gave Abby a somewhat good ending traveling with Lev but Ellie gets to be alone? That's kinda bullshit. If they wanted to reflect Abby onto Ellie with the philosophy that revenge isn't always sweet and you can only be satisfied after fixing your mistakes and forgiving they could at least make a dlc that ends Ellie up with ANYONE, doesn't even have to be Dina, just someone since her biggest fear was ending up alone in the first place.
you can play TLOU Remastered and people will still think it's a current gen, this clearly shows how TLOU1 graphically was ahead of its time way back on the ps3.
Well in the second game she’s not a kid so she’s gonna look different EDIT: I mean throughout all the flashbacks, not just the one dodgy scene from the end of the first game, Ellie is 15-17 in some of the flashbacks
Jack Ieong it’s tricky because they show flashbacks from random times over the 4 years we didn’t see so it’s hard to tell when she’s meant to not look like a kid anymore, idk tbh I’ve always thought Ellie looked different in game compared to cutscenes anyways, like she even looks different in TLOU 2 from when they’re in the Jackson party to when they’re in Seattle
The main thing that bothers me is how the operating room was changed, the tlou1 is was dirty, gross looking, the fireflies weren't professionals, yet in 2, it all looks clean, sterile, like they were actually knowing what they were doing. It's all subtle retconning to make you see joel as fully in the wrong, that's just manipulative.
The only thing different is the surgeon scrubs they’re wearing, the updated graphics, and the lighting engine making the room cooler and differently lit. You don’t need to be in a dingy room to still be throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks, just like you aren’t rich by crashing at someone’s penthouse for a night.
I find it interesting how, in the second one, the hospital suddenly looks much cleaner and more competently made. As if they're now trying to paint the Fireflies as completely competent and knowing what they're doing, not just hoping it'll all work out this time.
It has been bugging me so much as well! In the first one it was dirty and dark and there was barely even electricity and in the second one it like nowadays but with a little more dust lol
TLOU1: shitty ass room with surgeons barely knowing what they're doing TLOU2: Nouble savior of the world in a very clean room prepare to save the world
@@smoker5989 Yeah, it seems like they retconned it just to make Joel look worse. Uh, forget about all that shot in the dark we already tried with other immune people and failed stuff. How dare you, Joel!
Clearly edited on purpose to paint the original Story in a different light. The same reason that there was no effort made in TLOU2 to have Joel explain to Ellie why he had a perfectly justifiable reason to rescue her. Joel - bad, Abby and co. - good. Terrible creative writing.
Sabrina Santos Let’s see Them hugging and showing some bond vs literally just skipping over it and him dying at the first few hours and Neil doing the happy new hands as he explains he wanted to dismantle a game gamers consider sacred and then complaining about the backlash
@@gehmirausdersonne4791 Because it was the actress Ellie was modeled after? It is obvious, you can't change someone else's face, it feels so unnatural.
WHAT THE HELL were they thinking when the messed up young Ellie’s face especially in that close up shot ... not a single person in the studio said nope thats not the same person?!!
They made her look more like her voice actor and I think Ellen Page tried during them because she looked like her. But I think that the Ellen Page thing was just a rumor.
@Mike N that's an important part of the story, how a character looks. Specially their features because it defines their emotions and adds more experience to the game
I always had the feeling they changed her face a bit to match Ashley Johnson's face a bit more. Probably makes mocap a lot more easier if the character has the same facial features as his mocap counterpart. At least I got that impression. I think you can see more resemblance than in the first game.
@@Benneification They demoed their new motion capture systems by showing they can blend between Ashley and Ellie's faces with the facial expressions preserved a couple years back. Better yet, Dina's motion capture performances are from a different person than who provided her face. It's either artistic reinterpretation trying to make the characters more realistic or related to Ellen Page issues from last game
@@officialdababy6346 Would've been too much effort to port it when they had to make a new one for the engine + mocap support for the new scenes. Mocap doesn't work well with hand animated models because proportions can very greatly. More artistic models can get weird animations when you apply mocap to them. They would've had to change the model to fit the new mocap tech so they likely created a second model for young Ellie to use Ashley Johnson's mocap work. (I'm a game designer.)
@@coreyjoines1369 I know. I'm a game dev. And one of the first things you learn being a game dev is cut corners where you can, cause you're almost never paid overtime and 80hr work weeks are standard (with only pay for 40hrs.) If it can't be done easily, don't do it. I don't necessarily agree with the ideology, but as people have pointed out, it also would be jarring to have a stylised young Ellie among these other more photorealistic models. That's not even covering whether or they would've had to remake the model from scratch to run with the new tech, especially if the model details and polygon count didn't match the expected level of quality in 2020.
Caelum guess you have been around many 14 year old girls? The the 2nd game she has lost so baby fat in the face which gives off the appearance of a older girl.
LieselLee I have cheeks kind of like Ellie’s in the first game, and I’m 23. 🧐 People often think I look like a teenager though lol. But I wouldn’t say she lost baby fat, she just lost her entire facial structure from the first game.
Ellie in 1st game looks more lovable, i think it's one of the factor that made fans felt so emotionally connected like she's our real daughter, kinda makes you feel you need to protect her at all cost
Colby Sullivan although i agree that the first one is much cuter, imo its a bit too cartoony. The second one is much more proportional and realistic. Joel’s face got much more realistic and more emotional too on the second one and i love it. The first game was a bit robotic and in some cases, looks very robotic
Jake Johnson No it doesn’t, and Ellie only looks less realistic in the first game because of the textures. All they had to do was update those, not make her look like a different person altogether.
I prefer "The Last of Us Remastered" version! Joel doesn't even look like a warrior in the new version, he looks just like a common 50 years old dude. Ellie looks like a plastic doll.
I wouldn't call Joel a warrior, but in The Last of Us (1), he certainly wasn't a dude you'd want to upset. He was fierce, dangerous and at times scary. He'd had a tough life before the outbreak, and his life had only gotten tougher after the outbreak and it showed. In the second game, all of that seems to be gone. He really is just a common 50-year-old. Sure, he's a warm and passionate man (as he also was in the first game), but all the rest that made his character so gripping, is just gone. They gave that fierce drive to Ellie instead... whilst also removing everything else that made Ellie special. They messed up their characters, is what they did and it's a shame. This could've been yet another all-time great.
@Wackaz - Arthur Wacker You're just upset the game didn't go the way you wanted, so you're just attacking everything at this point. I bet if the game went the way you wanted, you would be praising the "detailed improvement of the character models" now. Pfffttttt
I always had the feeling they changed her face a bit to match Ashley Johnson's face a bit more. Probably makes mocap a lot more easier if the character has the same facial features as his mocap counterpart. At least I got that impression. I think you can see more resemblance than in the first game.
@@Benneification i just finished the game and yeah i agree. it's just that one shot of her face up close after joel says "i swear" that looks kinda off.
1:52 Not trying to extend the hate of tlou2, but ellie geniunely has a better face model in the original. Young Ellie just looks so naive and helpless in the sequel.
@Eva From Wall-E Even though its not a big deal, I still do prefer how she looked in the first game. Its the eyes that maker her look different. It's like, I don't know who that is
TLOU1 is infinitely better. The color grading, the expressions on their faces, the music, even the surgery room looks so much more fitting for the world in the first game. The worst part is how different Ellie looks.
Tlou1 is 100%better than 2 but it is 8 years old. And it still looks better than most games today. But of course tlou2 being new it has much better graphics and gameplay.
Ya but their graphic fidelity during cutscene in Pt1 is good back in that time but since the 2nd game uses higher poly assets + facial capture you can tell the facial expressions in the 2nd are far more expressive than the 1st without any facial capture (all hand-made animation).
I think they scanned her adult actress' face onto the model in order to keep her looking similar to adult Ellie in the rest of the game. It looks weird because that's literally an adult's face, not that of the 14 y/o she's meant to be. They had more creative freedom with how she looks in the original because of the technical limitations and that Ellie was going to be 14 for the entirety of the game, so they leant into a more childish appearance.
ND decided to change Ellie's face after the debut trailer and accidently her face looked like young Ellen Page in the retail version. Ellen accused them for ripped off her likeness without her consent. In Part 2 I think ND has to remodel Ellie to look different from an adult Ellen Page or they will be sued.
I always had the feeling they changed her face a bit to match Ashley Johnson's face a bit more. Probably makes mocap a lot more easier if the character has the same facial features as his mocap counterpart. At least I got that impression. I think you can see more resemblance than in the first game.
I honestly preferred the structure of the model in the first one for Ellie seems like they made a remake with diff models should just improved the texture
@@dragonballhaven1417 So is it creepy to call a baby cute? No. Then why is calling Ellie cute so creepy? Stop sexualizing her. A 14 year old girl can be cute.
@@sharlottehilder2904 grown men shouldn't be calling 14 year old girls cute. Hes a creep. Its creepy. He doesn't know ellie and ellie doesnt know him. Imagine some grown man hiding around a corner calling children cute without consent of a parent or in a mature and natural situation.
I preferred the old Ellie face model... The new one looks older than the old model ... the new 14 years old Ellie looks older than her when she was 18/19... Just unfitting.. Edit: I understand the realism argument... about Beauty during a apocalypse... but ... We don’t expect this game to be 100% realistic... we just want it Entertaining... people don’t buy a game for how close it is to reality... sometimes the things that are unusual compared to our own world is what we look in games for... a new world, different from reality that we can dive in:)
Do people really pathetically use that as an argument? What the heck does beauty have to do with realism? You can't have someone who looks attractive be real? Are you out of your actual mind? do you know how many actual gorgeous people are in the world without even having to try? Are people actually serious?! there are plenty of people who in my opinion look better than me but guess what I am not offended by their mere existence and I am certainly not going to be by gosh damn video game character, why are people like this? Just Stop having these pathetic arguments to try and justify people putting agendas inside of games and de-beautifying female characters because they just have to, because them looking even mildly attractive is offensive to someone, it's just dumb! And I wouldn't even consider a Ellie some type of freaking beauty queen she was a realistic girl who also happened to be a badass in the making, but of course the unneeded sequel just had to give her no development and just turn her into a straight-up tomboy freaking Millennial Stoner person with no real personality or likeability who has actually lost some of her IQ points as well, it sucks badly! I am sorry for ranting so long but I really liked Ellie and the people who just decided to use her character and her and Joel's fanbase for this BS suck.
Tbh I didn't even realise that Ellie was the same age at the start of part 2 as she was at the end of part 1, she looked so different that I had just persumed we had gone like a year into the future or something.
I see a big difference. In earlier gens when it came to these kinds of games you can tell the developers opted to give characters a more definitive facial expression whereas now thanks to updated graphics they opted to diversify their facial movements. In the original Joel had a much more stern look with a straight face and Ellie’s facial movements were more confined to her eyes and lips. In Part 2 however both have a major update in subtle facial ticks. Ellie’s cheeks are a lot smaller and Joel’s look is more contempt than stern.
I’m not sure if I’m in the minority, but I liked Ellie’s face better in Last of Us 1. She actually looks less cartoonish and more real. I’m also not too much of a fan of her grown up face. I liked her overall, but it’s as if she’s lost some of that distinctive ‘cheeky’ (but cute) quality...
Joel looks more realistic now, but also softer. So does Tommy. In the original, both Miller brothers had sharper, more predatory features. Their default expression looked angry. It gave off this feel that these are people hardened by 20 years of survival experience, who have both done horrible things to survive. In the second game, however, they both look kinda sad by default. Although their faces are more realistic, it doesn't feel like these are the same two people.
At 1:51 on the left, it looks like they just got 19 year old Ellie’s face and put it on 14 year old Ellie’s body, I think that’s why it looks very jarring and weird
Every character in the 2nd looks like trash compare to the 1st one, by going the hyper realistic route they took away the more gentle look of the main characters especially Ellie, wth did they do to her.
That's because they are using windows 10 or new ios version, thats why they make it more different, on 2013 or 2014, they're still using windows 8 or whatever ios it is.
I always had the feeling they changed her face a bit to match Ashley Johnson's face a bit more. Probably makes mocap a lot more easier if the character has the same facial features as his mocap counterpart. At least I got that impression. I think you can see more resemblance than in the first game.
Joel and Ellie look way more stylised in the first game, i get ND wanted them to look realistic in the second game but they ended up looking like different people to me
They destroyed Joel and ellies personality and survivability in tlou2, destroyed joels body in tlou2, destroyed ellies face in tlou2, and gave Abby some of the largest arms I've seen on any human.
In a different dimension, in one of our millions of parallel dimensions, a near perfect version of this game exists. Guess we got that bad one. In another dimension somewhere else, the first game sucked... and the second one blew people’s minds.
Jenny What Then you wouldn’t be the best person to give a raise considering the new Ellie design looked like they just cut off her adult face and screwed it on her flashback design.
Jenny What FFS, she does not in ANY way look like an anime character, not at all. The only reason people like you say this is because you’re trying to make excuses for the second game instead of just accepting that it’s a pile of garbage. The ONLY reason she looks less realistic in the original game is because of the textures. But her facial structure is certainly realistic looking.
Eva From Wall-E No, she does not look like a ten year old or an anime character in the first game. And she’s only more realistic looking in the second game because of the updated textures. That’s all they had to change. They did not need to make her look ugly or like an entirely different person.
1:46 joel’s old man image in this sequel is even reinforced in this flashback as u can see a lot more detail in aging and scrawniness when u look at his face and muscle definition
![The Last of Us Part II Mystery Box Unboxing [Ultra Rare]](/img/1.gif)
The Last of Us 2 is obviously not canon because I killed that guy with a flamethrower
I used the frag bomb
fucking same bro
I stabbed him with his own knife
I tossed him in the oven
I stabbed him to death and made the others feed of them and blew their heads off with a shotgun
TLOU 2 flashbacks: *How I remember it happened*
TLOU 1: *How it really happened*
Bingo, this is how people tend to remember events, with more dramatic lighting.
Wow, now I understan thank you 🙂
It's was still strange for me, because I remembered, how the original lighting and faces looked.
I absolutely agree... Thats why there can be slight changes even though i wouldnt know why joel would remember this one doctor sooo different from what he actually looked like... Yk? Like the outfit... I think thats kinda stupid but definitly acceptable... But i still think that ellie looks really shit in the new version with "OK"...
Joels hair also looks kinda strange to me at least in the Hospital
If somehow the lord gave me another chance, I would do it all over again.
Except play Tlou 2 campaign again
@@justanotheridiot3862 wanted to say the same xd
Powerful
@@justanotheridiot3862 tbh i personally enjoyed both games. Equally.
I do Animations you enjoy playing as Abby?
Abby: You took everything from me!
Joel: I don't even know who you are.
This comment is gold
underrated comment
GOLD comment
Wow havent seen this comment on every last of us part 2 video ever
Top tier comment
The “Okay,” close up shot looks a bit uncanny in Part 2.
Every other shot translated pretty well, but that one looks alien.
You must be blind lol 1 looks uncanny
Carl Clark
I probably found it less uncanny because Naughty Dog had a very distinct art style in the 7th-Generation of consoles for human characters that I’d already grown accustomed to throughout the Uncharted series.
Naughty Dog weren’t trying to make Ellie look realistic. They were trying to make her look believable within the technical limitations they had.
Besides, I’m obviously not the only person who feels that way based on the Likes my comment has received.
@@SanchezS1998 39 comments only means so much. Read all the others and you'll find way more that know for a fact that ellie in tlou2 looks like a midget.
When will you learn!? Aren’t we agreeing that she appears uncanny then?
Carl Clark Ellie in tlou2 looks ugly this is a game it’s suppose to look good
Young Ellie in Part 2 looks good but the one close up shot looks just...odd.
It's the eyes... She looks very sad.
The first Last of Us look like Ellen Page on that year 2013 Beyond Two Souls game also came out. Now, they have to change the facial to prevent Ellen Page likeness
Everything was odd.
I read a while back that she looks like she does in part 2 so that she looks alot more like her older self, that's just her face at 14.
Her face is a lot less realistic in 2, it's weird.
LMAOOO What the hell did they do to Ellie for that close up shot?? Looks like a different person
had to make it realistic she got trauma
@@yvngclout4191 trauma doesnt cause those changes, that's plastic surgery.
Arya stark lol
They had to get rid of ThE uNcAnNy LiKeNeSs Of ElLeN pAgE
They make she (and other womans in game) more androgynous to be transfriendly, is not a joke, they did it...
The TLOU 2 flashback Ellie on the left at 1:51 looks like she has crippling depression. Or she spent a whole night in a microwave or something idk
Microwave? 😂
😂😂💀
It's just approaching uncanny valley
@WaffleMinion
Not really, to me, her emotion in Tlou 1 is her being shocked, doesn't know what to feel, and don't know what the fuck is happening
Lol its just that scene. She actually looks good in the game
Considering how amazing part 2 graphics are, the first game was just way ahead of it's time graphically. Still holds up well all these yrs later
Hardly
@@Bestgameplayer10 It’s a ps3 game. It still looks good.
@@Rellziuq I personally disagree on TLOU1 holding up graphically but to each their own.
nah
same with part 2, it looks and plays like a next gen game only on 30fps on my ps4...
I wished I could've played as Tommy alongside Ellie for at least a third of the game, I mean, he was avenging Joel's death too, y'know
Exactly. Would've been way more fun than playing with abby
Probably make his part into a DLC.
@@sabrinag9369 They're not making a DLC. Shitty sequel, shitty storyline. Screw Naughty Dog and feminism! 😡
mean mother hubber would’ve bought the game is we played as Tommy rather than Abby.
@@athenaamiga7679 Bruh seriously? They gave Abby a somewhat good ending traveling with Lev but Ellie gets to be alone? That's kinda bullshit. If they wanted to reflect Abby onto Ellie with the philosophy that revenge isn't always sweet and you can only be satisfied after fixing your mistakes and forgiving they could at least make a dlc that ends Ellie up with ANYONE, doesn't even have to be Dina, just someone since her biggest fear was ending up alone in the first place.
Ellie looks great except in that one shot to happened for that one close shot
1:51 yes she kinda looked different in the face
@@nk.3841 exactly
2nd one doesn’t look bad at all, it just looks super weird compared to the first one. First one looks super natural.
Is like she was a drogatic
@@josedamas7737 A "drogatic"🤣😂 LOL! You mean drug addict😆
you can play TLOU Remastered and people will still think it's a current gen, this clearly shows how TLOU1 graphically was ahead of its time way back on the ps3.
MGS4 still Looks like a PS4 Game too and that was 1080P not 720P the PS3 is still a great console even in 2020
Maybe tlou2 is graphically downgraded
Ps4 is worse than ps3 tbh
The cutscenes in TLOU part 1 are pre rendered.
A lot of the first game does not hold up graphically. The environments are pretty ugly
I prefer young eli in TLOU 1 she's so cute and actually looks like a real kid
It doesn't look real at all.
Well in the second game she’s not a kid so she’s gonna look different
EDIT: I mean throughout all the flashbacks, not just the one dodgy scene from the end of the first game, Ellie is 15-17 in some of the flashbacks
She doesnt look like a real person at all
shes much cuter than in 2 tho
Jack Ieong it’s tricky because they show flashbacks from random times over the 4 years we didn’t see so it’s hard to tell when she’s meant to not look like a kid anymore, idk tbh I’ve always thought Ellie looked different in game compared to cutscenes anyways, like she even looks different in TLOU 2 from when they’re in the Jackson party to when they’re in Seattle
@@aolson1111can u tell me the meth type you are taking??
The main thing that bothers me is how the operating room was changed, the tlou1 is was dirty, gross looking, the fireflies weren't professionals, yet in 2, it all looks clean, sterile, like they were actually knowing what they were doing.
It's all subtle retconning to make you see joel as fully in the wrong, that's just manipulative.
Isn’t the first one from Joel’s perspective though? Perspective changes how you perceive lighting, everything
Hardly.
It literally looks the same in tlou2 but with darker lighting
@@nooooplease7060 no i think the nose and eyes are more huge in tlou 2,sorry for my english i am from brazil 🇧🇷
The only thing different is the surgeon scrubs they’re wearing, the updated graphics, and the lighting engine making the room cooler and differently lit. You don’t need to be in a dingy room to still be throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks, just like you aren’t rich by crashing at someone’s penthouse for a night.
I find it interesting how, in the second one, the hospital suddenly looks much cleaner and more competently made. As if they're now trying to paint the Fireflies as completely competent and knowing what they're doing, not just hoping it'll all work out this time.
It has been bugging me so much as well! In the first one it was dirty and dark and there was barely even electricity and in the second one it like nowadays but with a little more dust lol
TLOU1: shitty ass room with surgeons barely knowing what they're doing
TLOU2: Nouble savior of the world in a very clean room prepare to save the world
@@smoker5989
Yeah, it seems like they retconned it just to make Joel look worse. Uh, forget about all that shot in the dark we already tried with other immune people and failed stuff. How dare you, Joel!
Clearly edited on purpose to paint the original Story in a different light. The same reason that there was no effort made in TLOU2 to have Joel explain to Ellie why he had a perfectly justifiable reason to rescue her. Joel - bad, Abby and co. - good. Terrible creative writing.
@@supertom8619
Gotta make Joel the evil bad guy. Screw him, it's all about Ellie and Abby, but mostly Abby. Love our OC!
Look how they massacred my girl
-Marlon Brando
She looks more like the actress who portrayed her - Ashley Johnson. Ain't nothing with that.
@@GreatExtended yeah is a 14 years old girl and his face is like an old woman.
They had too change her face because the person that looked similar to ellie, Ellen Page, started to complain about it
Brazzers 2036 they had already changed her face tho
Tlou2 Joel looks good but Elie...
She looks like more this old ellie than this from orginal
Look like a boy
They had to change her face because she was too feminine for Anita and her SJWS friends
@@SliverGaming so like every girl in this game.
@@MisterGoofy what a reach my guy lol
Just a theory, but the last of us 2 doesn’t take place, Joel’s shirt is different in the car scene! Jk but who knows.....
Lets make that happen, the last of us 3 is the last of us 2, and we can just forget this current one
Adolf Hitler I almost got spoiled
Perhaps we are living in another dimension...
@Adolf Hitler she isn't trans, was confirmed by Neil, but yeah that would be kinda funny
@Adolf Hitler Surprisingly wouldn't be mad with that
0:19 the way he runs he looks like he’s constipated 😂😂
I'm kinda pissed that ND didn't remake the part when Joel and Ellie hug after Ellie almost getting killed by David.
That's what happens when you force a narrative. Other parts of the story that might have mattered gets lost.
But for what? What would this bring to the story? All the flashbacks were moments we didn't saw in the first game except the hospital one
Sabrina Santos
Let’s see
Them hugging and showing some bond vs literally just skipping over it and him dying at the first few hours and Neil doing the happy new hands as he explains he wanted to dismantle a game gamers consider sacred and then complaining about the backlash
Anything to rework the narritive to make joel the villain and abby the hero
Thank god he didn't!
Prefer the original.
emerald He’s obviously talking about the models
emerald
I like the style of the older models
Honestly I prefer its graphics too, it’s just the perfect amount of real and fake
Everyone prefer 1st in every aspect
los dos son originales eh
She kind of looks like Maisie Williams now, instead of Ellen Page.
Why should she look like Ellen Page?
Ashley Johnson is the actress behind Ellie
@@gehmirausdersonne4791 Because it was the actress Ellie was modeled after? It is obvious, you can't change someone else's face, it feels so unnatural.
Dorian *voice actress. Shes modelled after Ellen Page. You know...just like how they didnt use Troy Baker’s face for Joel? And other 3d models?
Hazwan Rahim Ah alright. Thanks for the info 🙌🏼
Ellen sued them
Maybe that’s why
WHAT THE HELL were they thinking when the messed up young Ellie’s face especially in that close up shot ... not a single person in the studio said nope thats not the same person?!!
They made her look more like her voice actor and I think Ellen Page tried during them because she looked like her. But I think that the Ellen Page thing was just a rumor.
The only thing that really changed was her nose. Besides that it's mostly texture upgrades and lighting differences.
I mean, she looks too perfect in the old version, like some egirl, which is harder to relate to
They where focusing on her eyes, showing her emotion. Like puppy dog eyes. Her innocence.
@@futurist1399 How the hell does she look like an egirl exactly?
“Mom, can I have 1:25?”
“We have 1:25 at home.”
1:25 at home: 1:36
Such a good comment.
*slow clap*
too clever😂
young tlou2 ellie looks like a grandma in a 14 yr old body
😆😆😆😆
Ellie looks way more cute in the first one.
@Mike N It's important
@Mike N so all people in oh so mature stories need to be ugly?
I want cute Ellie back
SIMPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Mike N that's an important part of the story, how a character looks. Specially their features because it defines their emotions and adds more experience to the game
1:35 I prefer young Ellie in the first game... Why they changed a bit her face? I don't like it...
I always had the feeling they changed her face a bit to match Ashley Johnson's face a bit more. Probably makes mocap a lot more easier if the character has the same facial features as his mocap counterpart. At least I got that impression. I think you can see more resemblance than in the first game.
@@Benneification I prefer tlou1 ellie because her look matches her age.
Buddi you don’t know what simp means
@@Benneification They demoed their new motion capture systems by showing they can blend between Ashley and Ellie's faces with the facial expressions preserved a couple years back. Better yet, Dina's motion capture performances are from a different person than who provided her face. It's either artistic reinterpretation trying to make the characters more realistic or related to Ellen Page issues from last game
@@Benneification And because they used Ellen Page's likeness without permission the first time around.
how can ellie's face look worse in this flashback like they could have just used the cutscene from tlou1
Because they are using updating character models are you stupid
MemeZyy they did bad job of doing that
@@officialdababy6346 Would've been too much effort to port it when they had to make a new one for the engine + mocap support for the new scenes. Mocap doesn't work well with hand animated models because proportions can very greatly. More artistic models can get weird animations when you apply mocap to them. They would've had to change the model to fit the new mocap tech so they likely created a second model for young Ellie to use Ashley Johnson's mocap work. (I'm a game designer.)
@@cookiemonster59263 ""Would've been too much effort". It's a triple AAA game, that has been in development for 7 years.
@@coreyjoines1369 I know. I'm a game dev. And one of the first things you learn being a game dev is cut corners where you can, cause you're almost never paid overtime and 80hr work weeks are standard (with only pay for 40hrs.) If it can't be done easily, don't do it. I don't necessarily agree with the ideology, but as people have pointed out, it also would be jarring to have a stylised young Ellie among these other more photorealistic models. That's not even covering whether or they would've had to remake the model from scratch to run with the new tech, especially if the model details and polygon count didn't match the expected level of quality in 2020.
This just show us how the LAST of US was so bealtful!
Yeah bealtful
Yeah bealtful
Except the part 2
@@dd-rd1ds the what as far as i know there is only one the last of us
WHY are you SCREAMING
1:36 I can’t be the only one who thinks she looks more like Sid from Ice Age than Ellie.
That girl suddenly became ugly
The eyes really mess it up.
PHAHAHAH lmaooo it's true tho
why the fuck did they mess her up
It's the eyes, her eyes are rotated too much
TLOU Elli: perfect eyes size and looks like a child
TLOU2 Elli: Snap snap your eyes are having a stroke and you’re seventy year old grandma
In TLOU Ellie looked like a 10 years old girl, in TLOU2 she looks like a 14 years old girl.
@@justa6528 no she doesn't
my eyes are like that......? im 14
Caelum guess you have been around many 14 year old girls? The the 2nd game she has lost so baby fat in the face which gives off the appearance of a older girl.
LieselLee I have cheeks kind of like Ellie’s in the first game, and I’m 23. 🧐 People often think I look like a teenager though lol. But I wouldn’t say she lost baby fat, she just lost her entire facial structure from the first game.
Ellie in 1st game looks more lovable, i think it's one of the factor that made fans felt so emotionally connected like she's our real daughter, kinda makes you feel you need to protect her at all cost
Colby Sullivan although i agree that the first one is much cuter, imo its a bit too cartoony. The second one is much more proportional and realistic. Joel’s face got much more realistic and more emotional too on the second one and i love it. The first game was a bit robotic and in some cases, looks very robotic
Jake Johnson No it doesn’t, and Ellie only looks less realistic in the first game because of the textures. All they had to do was update those, not make her look like a different person altogether.
She looks fake
Ellie looked better in TLoU1 but Joel looks fantastic in TLoU2
@@raychii7361... She a kid. Wtf
They gave him too much gray hair in 2 imo.
@@feargayrats its not graphics they look amazing were talking about facial structure she used to be adorable
He looks depress rukns part 1 scene with that recreation.
@@iancruz6617 WHAT
I prefer "The Last of Us Remastered" version! Joel doesn't even look like a warrior in the new version, he looks just like a common 50 years old dude. Ellie looks like a plastic doll.
me too...
Maybe because Joel is not a warrior but a common 50 years old dude?
Imo i like the part 2 one better except for the close up shot at the end
I wouldn't call Joel a warrior, but in The Last of Us (1), he certainly wasn't a dude you'd want to upset. He was fierce, dangerous and at times scary. He'd had a tough life before the outbreak, and his life had only gotten tougher after the outbreak and it showed.
In the second game, all of that seems to be gone. He really is just a common 50-year-old. Sure, he's a warm and passionate man (as he also was in the first game), but all the rest that made his character so gripping, is just gone. They gave that fierce drive to Ellie instead... whilst also removing everything else that made Ellie special. They messed up their characters, is what they did and it's a shame. This could've been yet another all-time great.
@@ethanfrederiksen4327 Buuuuuuut it isn't. LMAO.
1:07 and 1:21 why did they took all of Joel's gains, like it wasn't already bad enough that they killed him off like a rat
Agreed ! he looks different in tlou2 looks much older too.
1:47 -
Right side : Joel's face lights up with optimism.
Left side : Absolute depression.
I’m annoyed With how inconsistent they look, from clothing to Joel suddenly having grey beard
Overall, Joel looks older in TLoU2 ,and specifically in that flashback.
He should not look old in the car flashback
Joel always had a grey beard. He's like 50 in the first game.
I think they're using the ps3 version for comparison because in the remastered, Joel has the blue shirt and a few more grey hairs.
@Wackaz - Arthur Wacker You're just upset the game didn't go the way you wanted, so you're just attacking everything at this point. I bet if the game went the way you wanted, you would be praising the "detailed improvement of the character models" now. Pfffttttt
ellie was beautiful in the first game.. what happened to her face lol
I think it had something to do with Ellen Page
@@Vertayl Yeah. Back in 2011. When Ellie was originally 17. They changed it in the final game. Why they did this in the sequel I have no idea.
@@IndefiniteIdea the just don't want to start this war all over again that they look similar
I always had the feeling they changed her face a bit to match Ashley Johnson's face a bit more. Probably makes mocap a lot more easier if the character has the same facial features as his mocap counterpart. At least I got that impression. I think you can see more resemblance than in the first game.
@@Benneification i just finished the game and yeah i agree. it's just that one shot of her face up close after joel says "i swear" that looks kinda off.
1:52 Not trying to extend the hate of tlou2, but ellie geniunely has a better face model in the original. Young Ellie just looks so naive and helpless in the sequel.
@Eva From Wall-E Bruh
Eva From Wall-E bro her eyes are even bigger on tlou2
@Eva From Wall-E Even though its not a big deal, I still do prefer how she looked in the first game. Its the eyes that maker her look different. It's like, I don't know who that is
TLOU1 is infinitely better. The color grading, the expressions on their faces, the music, even the surgery room looks so much more fitting for the world in the first game. The worst part is how different Ellie looks.
not true actually
Tlou1 is 100%better than 2 but it is 8 years old. And it still looks better than most games today. But of course tlou2 being new it has much better graphics and gameplay.
@@darlingjo7492 her face just looks better in that scene, not much more to it
For me face models from The Last Of Us 1 are way better.
Yap
That cause their not realistic looking compared to part 2
Ya but their graphic fidelity during cutscene in Pt1 is good back in that time but since the 2nd game uses higher poly assets + facial capture you can tell the facial expressions in the 2nd are far more expressive than the 1st without any facial capture (all hand-made animation).
@@sinthebin9814 Dude I have a girl in my class who looks just like that.
@@kobi7955 bruh
Why’d they make Ellie’s eyes so far apart and her forehead extra wide
She didn’t even look like a 14 year old
They made her eyes a lot bigger too, makes it look off
Yeah man she looks like Sid from Ice Age now wth?
Her nose is bigger too
I think they scanned her adult actress' face onto the model in order to keep her looking similar to adult Ellie in the rest of the game. It looks weird because that's literally an adult's face, not that of the 14 y/o she's meant to be.
They had more creative freedom with how she looks in the original because of the technical limitations and that Ellie was going to be 14 for the entirety of the game, so they leant into a more childish appearance.
How did the Doctor's gown color change from green to blue? Is it that hard to keep the detail consistent?
I think is for stronger atomsphere porposes, hospital identical with white and blue color
If they wanted to be consistent, they would have just ripped game footage. It's more like a remake.
I don't understand why people being bothered by such small details
The doctor being an old black guy in the first game makes it even less consistent.
@@violet-trash he wasn't black lol, just bad lightning
0:07 the surgeon tray goes flying after he grabs a scalpel.
1:52 i like tlou1 ellie because you can see her Emotions in her eyes
Good point. 👍
Her eyes is shining full of life
All I ever seen was a blank stare
nah tlou 2 has more realistic expressions, they just look like different actors lmao
Hardly
for me she's not really ugly. it's like another actor is playing. And thats sad
@@nk.3841 yeah no shit.
ND decided to change Ellie's face after the debut trailer and accidently her face looked like young Ellen Page in the retail version. Ellen accused them for ripped off her likeness without her consent.
In Part 2 I think ND has to remodel Ellie to look different from an adult Ellen Page or they will be sued.
As long as she is still played by Ashley Johnson, that's fine by me
@Critico Tingka what is the correlation about being lesbian and a face
I always had the feeling they changed her face a bit to match Ashley Johnson's face a bit more. Probably makes mocap a lot more easier if the character has the same facial features as his mocap counterpart. At least I got that impression. I think you can see more resemblance than in the first game.
I think tlou 1 looks more appealing, stylish, tlou 2 so realistic make it look kinda generic.
I want bad graphics because it looks stylish ?
@@lightyagami8645 Nope, you don't have to, because art-style can work, regaredless of how high is your graphics.
Buddi AKA your face
Honesty TLOU Ellie looks so much better than TLOU2 Ellie
Only sometimes does TLOU2 Ellie look better than the original
1:51
Tlou 1: Ellie with an normal expression.
Tlou 2: 👁👄👁
Seriously, wtf happened?! What happened with her eyes?
I honestly preferred the structure of the model in the first one for Ellie seems like they made a remake with diff models should just improved the texture
Ellie looks a lot cuter in part 1
Edit: I’m only 13
Shes a minor you creep
@@dragonballhaven1417 So is it creepy to call a baby cute? No. Then why is calling Ellie cute so creepy? Stop sexualizing her. A 14 year old girl can be cute.
@@dragonballhaven1417 You know, not everyone in the internet is an adult. Some of them could be a teenager.
She looks like a cat in the first one. She actually looks like us humans in part 2.
@@sharlottehilder2904 grown men shouldn't be calling 14 year old girls cute. Hes a creep. Its creepy. He doesn't know ellie and ellie doesnt know him. Imagine some grown man hiding around a corner calling children cute without consent of a parent or in a mature and natural situation.
0:08 look at that bug lol
Lmaoooo
Ellie looks better in ToUS1
I preferred the old Ellie face model... The new one looks older than the old model ... the new 14 years old Ellie looks older than her when she was 18/19... Just unfitting..
Edit: I understand the realism argument... about Beauty during a apocalypse... but ... We don’t expect this game to be 100% realistic... we just want it Entertaining... people don’t buy a game for how close it is to reality... sometimes the things that are unusual compared to our own world is what we look in games for... a new world, different from reality that we can dive in:)
Do people really pathetically use that as an argument? What the heck does beauty have to do with realism? You can't have someone who looks attractive be real? Are you out of your actual mind? do you know how many actual gorgeous people are in the world without even having to try? Are people actually serious?! there are plenty of people who in my opinion look better than me but guess what I am not offended by their mere existence and I am certainly not going to be by gosh damn video game character, why are people like this? Just Stop having these pathetic arguments to try and justify people putting agendas inside of games and de-beautifying female characters because they just have to, because them looking even mildly attractive is offensive to someone, it's just dumb! And I wouldn't even consider a Ellie some type of freaking beauty queen she was a realistic girl who also happened to be a badass in the making, but of course the unneeded sequel just had to give her no development and just turn her into a straight-up tomboy freaking Millennial Stoner person with no real personality or likeability who has actually lost some of her IQ points as well, it sucks badly! I am sorry for ranting so long but I really liked Ellie and the people who just decided to use her character and her and Joel's fanbase for this BS suck.
Tbh I didn't even realise that Ellie was the same age at the start of part 2 as she was at the end of part 1, she looked so different that I had just persumed we had gone like a year into the future or something.
Last of us 1 WINS
Nao
@@laerciojunior9234 fan boy
Your profile picture is me after playing the part 2.
Agreed
@@mariacelestehurtadosanchez577 Ta nítido que a versão de PS4 é melhor
They made Ellie ugly on purpose in part 2
Yeah she looks really different
In the first game she looks very innocent and like a child in the second game they fucked up their face really bad
Yea they did, her entiee face keep changing.
What have they done to Ellie?! Thank you, Anita
It looks that on their way off the hospital, Joel and Ellie stayed long enough to make a facial surgery.
I like young Ellie of tlou1 more than the tlou2 one.
I see a big difference. In earlier gens when it came to these kinds of games you can tell the developers opted to give characters a more definitive facial expression whereas now thanks to updated graphics they opted to diversify their facial movements. In the original Joel had a much more stern look with a straight face and Ellie’s facial movements were more confined to her eyes and lips. In Part 2 however both have a major update in subtle facial ticks. Ellie’s cheeks are a lot smaller and Joel’s look is more contempt than stern.
moment of silence for the people that didn't kill the doctors with the flamethrower
I'm legit gonna replay the first game again since this made mr remember how much I loved it since I first played it. I love everyone in that game.
Even the random soldier from the beginning who killed Sarah?
@@nooooplease7060 why not
What if he had a daughter u monster
I’m not sure if I’m in the minority, but I liked Ellie’s face better in Last of Us 1. She actually looks less cartoonish and more real. I’m also not too much of a fan of her grown up face. I liked her overall, but it’s as if she’s lost some of that distinctive ‘cheeky’ (but cute) quality...
Her personality and her face are downgraded in that sequel.
Joel looks more realistic now, but also softer. So does Tommy. In the original, both Miller brothers had sharper, more predatory features. Their default expression looked angry. It gave off this feel that these are people hardened by 20 years of survival experience, who have both done horrible things to survive. In the second game, however, they both look kinda sad by default. Although their faces are more realistic, it doesn't feel like these are the same two people.
Its only in that part. The other flashback show us a PERFECT younger Ellie
Eh not much.
@@iancruz6617 Yes
Bro, Ellie looks like she's 37 in that in TLOU2
At 1:51 on the left, it looks like they just got 19 year old Ellie’s face and put it on 14 year old Ellie’s body, I think that’s why it looks very jarring and weird
when abby dad lift the "weapon" they made joel dirty, he seems like a bad guy instead of a tired man
That is Why i prefer Tlou1 over Tlou2 .
Wow. Even more proof how they have killed the Ellie design.
gollum? poor ellie!
Every character in the 2nd looks like trash compare to the 1st one, by going the hyper realistic route they took away the more gentle look of the main characters especially Ellie, wth did they do to her.
It was confirmed they made every female look trans to please the minority. I'm not even joking.
Bruno Rabago confirmed from your ass
The Last of Us Part III: Joel's wrathful ghost
Why’d they make her look older in the second one, if it’s a flashback shouldn’t they look the same???
Probably because the first one resembles ellen page and she called naughty dog out on that when tlou 1 was released
That's because they are using windows 10 or new ios version, thats why they make it more different, on 2013 or 2014, they're still using windows 8 or whatever ios it is.
She looks depressed af and with 0 character on that TLoU2 closed shot
look how they massacred my girl :,v
Your girl?? They beat Joel to death with a golf club.
@@madmanwebster94 that's a reference quote from the Godfather movie
I always had the feeling they changed her face a bit to match Ashley Johnson's face a bit more. Probably makes mocap a lot more easier if the character has the same facial features as his mocap counterpart. At least I got that impression. I think you can see more resemblance than in the first game.
Joel still looks like Joel
Ellie somehow looks like a different person. I like her new look though.
Her face looks better on adult ellie.
Joel and Ellie look way more stylised in the first game, i get ND wanted them to look realistic in the second game but they ended up looking like different people to me
It’s crazy to me how much better the ending scene in the first game looks. It’s crazy
Is it just me or young Ellie’s face from tlou 2 looks a lot different
They destroyed Joel and ellies personality and survivability in tlou2, destroyed joels body in tlou2, destroyed ellies face in tlou2, and gave Abby some of the largest arms I've seen on any human.
01:35 arya stark
oh know i get it why this game's finale is that bad
THEY CHANGED THE BLACK NURSE TO WHITE LOL
The sad part is he didn’t kill the rest of them.
There was never a black nurse?
@@sharlottehilder2904 the doctor
The doctor was never black lol
Young Ellie at tlou2 just using snap filters
1:33 Ellie before crystal meth.
1:35 Ellie after crystal meth.
For me the last of us 1 looks better. It actually shows emotion on their faces
@Eva From Wall-E nah he had a bad ass look in the number 1 he looks like a dope in the second game
Imma just pretend LoU2 isn't canon. Just so it doesn't ruin the image of the first.
Same
With you on that
Ellie on PS3 looks sweeter in my opinion
In a different dimension, in one of our millions of parallel dimensions, a near perfect version of this game exists. Guess we got that bad one. In another dimension somewhere else, the first game sucked... and the second one blew people’s minds.
Why can't we be in the dimension where they didn't fuck up TLoU 2's story 😔
Why did they change Ellie's face so much in Part 2 :( They could have kept her original face and just made the graphics more realistic...
I don’t get why they changed Ellie’s face THAT much. Lmao. Like who even is that?
After 1:36 i wonder with all my heart why does people still defend this game..
1:28 how can you lie to that face 😔
1:52
Right: Actress
Left: Stuntwoman
They look different and tlou 2 ellie looks older than 14.
Hey screwed Ellie's face n the second part presenting that memory... She was so cute and they just made it different..🤷🏾♂️
1:35
*THAT AIN’T MY BABY GURL*
The person who created Ellie’s reconstructed face should get a raise... said no one ever
I said that
Jenny What Then you wouldn’t be the best person to give a raise considering the new Ellie design looked like they just cut off her adult face and screwed it on her flashback design.
@@damondgreen2239 dude, she looks more like a fuckin human being in TLOU2. In the first game she looked like a frickin anime loli waifu
Jenny What FFS, she does not in ANY way look like an anime character, not at all. The only reason people like you say this is because you’re trying to make excuses for the second game instead of just accepting that it’s a pile of garbage. The ONLY reason she looks less realistic in the original game is because of the textures. But her facial structure is certainly realistic looking.
Eva From Wall-E No, she does not look like a ten year old or an anime character in the first game. And she’s only more realistic looking in the second game because of the updated textures. That’s all they had to change. They did not need to make her look ugly or like an entirely different person.
They destroyed literally everything they possibly could.
degilaaandir that's exactly what they did. LOL
I laugh how the word "literally" is so misused nowdays
1:46 joel’s old man image in this sequel is even reinforced in this flashback as u can see a lot more detail in aging and scrawniness when u look at his face and muscle definition
She looks totally different in 2... I like her face in 1 which is cuter. Idk why they change the way she looks tho
Who the f is this guy in part two pretending to be Joel??
Where is the real Joel??