Kenyon Martin CALLS OUT California Hoopers
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Gil's Arena ERUPTS After Kenyon Martin CALLS OUT California Hoopers as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew get into it over the idea that hoopers from Los Angeles & The State of California are perceived soft by the rest of the nation. They battle over why the perception runs throughout the entire country and break down the games of popular LA hoopers like Russell Westrbook, Paul Pierce and Kobe Bryant to put the rumors to rest.
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Kenyon got 3 defense mechanisms..
1. Loud talk
2. Aggressive language
3. Threats if 1 or 2 don't work
Lmaooooooooo man he meet the right mf the 4th mechanism is gonna be running from a switch.
@@Lefthook-poweroffor getting beat up 😂. The good ol fashion way
When Kmart called swaggyp “fucker” I haven’t heard anyone call anyone fucker in a long ass time
You deadass sound like a b!tch we was better off not knowing this conversation made you insecure about your masculinity
Don’t forget about claiming the trenches
Kenyon: we talking lightskin curly hair
Nick: you lightskin...
Him and Matt Barnes have that attitude for being light skin
he tougher than you
Kenyon's ashamed of being light skin & probably was raised by dark skin folks!
@@anthonys9892facts my oldest brother is lightskin yet he always dissing light skin dudes lol
@@vainace33nah it sound good
The dude with the laptop is definitely the kind of LA dude Kenyon is talking about😅
😂😂😂
His father was in the league so he definitely didn't have it hard growing up
But he don’t hoop 😂
@@RayKwaN280he used to hoop, but he wasn't as good as his brother Kris. They all went to UCLA
The dude with the laptop 🤣 🤣 🤣
Kenyon and Gil understood the question. They're talking about the perception of styles. It's like how LA players see OC players. OC is considered soft compared to LA. SoCal is considered soft compared to the Bay and Cali is seen as soft compared to the rest of the country overall. Not every player is one way in every region but that is how they are perceived based on overall styles. HS reffing in each region also dictates those styles. Cali reffing tends to lead to less physical play.
Kenyon should have explained it better.
Exactly they judge by where you hoop at you get the point. Bro
You’re comparing styles but naming areas in California La vs OC isn’t about style they this it’s soft because of location.
Kenyon is right but Nick and Josiah is they feelings
@@thepewpewlife1562 all Kenyon had to say is there are regional differences in how basketball is played because of the environments of each place and the local culture. Don't call it "soft". I hate that word because it's used as an insult to dudes who had the audacity to grow up with both their parents or weren't "struggling" trying to survive. It's less to do with a location because Tatum is from St. Louis, Missouri(same place as Nelly the rapper) and Kobe grew up in Italy as the son of an NBA player. People said Kobe was "tough" and not "soft".
Shoutout to the hoopers that don’t call foul during pickup 😅
Facts you gotta tackle me for me to call it
Gotta pick and choose. Lost one time to a toilet bowl 3 because they got the ball from a turnover/fouled me and i didnt call it lmao
@@th3b3astmodz1😂😂🤦🏾♂️
Facts - calling foul over a baby tap be pissing me off..
definitely is a time and place when you have no choice
Basically what he’s saying LA style or play is soft. They play more of a finesse game rather than the gritty type of game
Doesn't make you soft, tf.
@@codyking3825has nothing to do with personality ….STYLE OF PLAY.
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@@codyking3825bruh they are not saying YOU are soft. They’re saying your STYLE OF PLAY is soft. Yall looking like Nick in these comments smh
@@deez9805 Playing smooth and finessed is considered soft??? Y'all sound dumb af. Elementary drop outs 🤡
Kenyon brining up upbringing then saying I’m talking about sports is crazy 😭
It’s not u just never played foreal it’s a big difference in player attitudes and personality when you come from rougher upbringing most suburban or rich kids don’t turn out to be Kobe’s or joakim Noah or CMC’s a lot of them are more up the Rudy gobert lane of mentality than a Westbrook or a Zach Randolph tony Allen type of mentality
Exactly
@@milo6011 lol I played college ball actually and my point still stands you can’t bring up players upbringing when it’s convenient to your point.. then when they start talking upbringing you switch back to I’m talking sports
Blame it on the Alcohol 😂😂😂
It’s not crazy you’re English isn’t as flexible as you thought…..
Just think about how Derrick rose plays (Chicago) vs James harden(LA). Rose played like a gladiator vs harden making it look pretty(flashy). Both are greats, just different styles.
Compare rose to Westbrook now.
@@TonyTigand it's the same...you can say that about almost all Chicago players it's part of the reason we get hurt so much we don't depend on skill as much as heart and aggression with athleticism
@@TeeWhy073bro please be quiet your not making sense.
@everybodyloveham4402 says the soft Californian it's ok bro embrace it
Kenyon definitely ain’t been to where KD grew up.
im from Chicago and I now live in Indianapolis Indiana and the people down here in Indianapolis play different than they do back in Chicago and when you go 108 miles south from here down to Louisville Kentucky they play different from Chicago and indy put together so Kenyon Martin is correct in what he's saying
He speaking facts in Alabama when they play pick up they dont even clear the ball at the 3 when they play half court
I agree
Factz if u even watch them play on RUclips they soft they call everything travel ALOT but u can't tell them that
Faxx every white ppl dominated state I've been to play soft blk or white lol straight skill which isn't bad
I'm from Louisville KY and we play different from Indiana which is just across the bridge
Nick Young always reminded of me of sweetness frim roll bounce😭😭😭
Baddd😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 never saw it until reading this comment but I get it
@gregharper6382 act like him too 😂
😂😂 The accuracy
💀💀💀
Bay Area ninjas hardest out of Cali…especially in football. J Kidd, Gary Payton, Bill Russell, Damian Lillard, tough as nails. NFL: Marshawn Lynch, Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, OJ Simpson, Davante Adams, Joe Mixon, Julian Edelman, Maurice Jones Drew, Amani Toomer, Lynn Swann. Bay Area has the most legends out of Cali.
I guess Kenyon never heard of a hooper named SuperCrip 😂😂
Shout out to David Hamilton
The vibrations in the room seem really low when Kenyon is on the show. Most of them seem scared of him
lol. 😂
💀I definitely peep the vibe when he there. I don't know if it's scared or more so just different energies, some people willing to fight about anything and others only like to do it when absolutely necessary. Kenyon seem like the type to send it up over lil shit and the others seem like they like joking around/laughing above all that.
I said the same thing its better wen he ain’t there he be doin to much
He's a gangster @@jamaljackson-ri7lh
His theme music on the show is Debo theme music 💀💀 similar to his play style on the court
I mean it’s basically a scientific fact that people that live in cold weather are angrier and more irritable 😂
You must have not been in LA everybody here angry or mad lmaooo
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
These mfs FRIED 😂😂😂
im about to roll up now.
@keith2j shit I just hit the dispo, I'm on the same timing
It’s smoked out in that mf!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And they say football players brains are mush Dammm.
@@lamadesurvivor5216 and they all got shades on 😂
Kenyon "i'm not talking about the streets, I'm talking about your style of play
Nick "So Jayson Tatum is soft
Kenyon" The streets he grew up in would say otherwise"
Yeah Kenyon just be talking.
Nah but what he's saying apply to LA hoopers or every hooper who plays a finesse style. How you play may be considered soft but where you from on a grand scale may say other wise.
Might. That's what he said...
@@germainerashad1997 Soft just mean skilled but to make less skilled players feel better they call it soft cause its better than saying someone is more skilled than you.
@germainerashad1997 but that's what Brandon was saying. If were you come from plays a factor, calling hoopers from LA soft is still crazy.
@@germainerashad1997lol nah his examples of why he think it’s soft is the problem lol
Your videos are consistently so helpful. Thanks for your effort!
I think Kenyon is not realizing that poverty looks different geographically. Growing up on the East Coast, I had trouble noticing bad areas of town when I saw homes with front and backyards. It took years for me to realize that this is still poverty.
Yep people come out here to LA drive through Compton and South Central and see homes with backyards and lawns and think its not the ghetto lol they don't know
Better poverty
Exactly
That's true I never really grew up in a house, so when I see people in different states like LA in houses I don't think poverty.
True but that's still his point they're poverty not the same as ours so the drive and hunger is different, the outlook is different which in all makes a dog out of you for most
Only people from la not understanding this says it all
Glad I wasn't the only one seeing it
Compton watts south central that’s a different ball game tho an that’s where most the la hoppers be from…..people judge the whole la based on like Beverly Hills Venice beach downtown la etc
@@ANTI-DEPOSITyou clearly have comprehension problems as well
@@FEEZY2SAUCY i fully understood what he meant and it doesn’t apply to most hoopers out here he’s actually speaking on a small group if we’re being honest
@@ANTI-DEPOSIT Facts! Good point
I understand what keyon is saying when you think of LA you don't think Boys in the hood you think Lakers, Hollywood beaches lebron soft. When you think of Chicago Memphis Detroit you think hard grind hood. I respect all places cause hoods are everywhere and diamonds are made in the hood all day.
never had to check in tell ‘em unc 😂😂
It’s simple, California has good weather all year so they’re jump shooters, places with heavier winds and that are colder have people with more lay up packages like north east / Chicago
wtf are you talking about bro. 😭😭😭 wrong
And I’m from Chicago.
@@PlayersBall4Evahis logic makes sense but idk if it’s due to the weather tho 😂im from Chicago btw
He speaking facts , as far as hooping outside and developing your game
You think recreational gyms dont exist in these places. gil has the dumbest audience by far who agreed to this dumb shi
This video made my day! Can't wait to see what’s next.
Kenyon is 100% wrong. Most of us lived in apartments in LA not houses 3:06
He speaking from his era and his experience don’t be soft
@ ok Sweetie
Cap his era lives in houses
Thank you. As a mf from LA still in LA(Long Beach) he got everything about LA WRONG.
Apartments vs projects u do the math
Grew up in Detroit, grew up in Cali, Kenyon isn't lying..... Them picc up games in Detroit were brutal lol! Compared to picc up games in Cali which were more skilled but there are gymnasiums in most all projects in LA county which means if you not from there you can't play there.....
They don’t get it. Kenyon is trying to explain that these California hoopers don’t be growing up playing basketball in the same ass conditions as hoopers in the South, Midwest & East Coast so the style of play isn’t the same. Isiah Thomas grew up hooping in windy ass Chicago in the 1970s outside same with Derrick Rose and others. Look how physical Brunson and Mitchell are as nepo babies compared to these other guys.
The point Kmart was trying to make was that California best players are play a more skill base play style that doesn’t use as much physicality compare to other cities style of play cites ie. Chicago (D rose, D wade, Isiah Thomas) and Detroit ( Chris Webber, Draymond Jalen rose, and NY ( Ron arrest, taj Gibson, jokim Noah) those cities produce a play style that considered more physical I.e more tougher
Facts Maryland all the way down to the south the same way. Talk backcourt hoops with minimum fouls calls.
the problem is all those guys you mentioned were born in 1989 and before. I feel like when I look at this current younger generation in the nba nowadays they all kind of play the same no matter where they are from and I think a lot of that is because outdoors blacktop playground ball isn't as prevalent in some areas as it used to be
@@vizionaryentertainment8464 you right fasho. Ima ‘99er but didn’t play in the rec or community center until 16 (10 years ago). It’s because of social media, these celebrity basketball trainer/influencers, and no street style presence in the national media. Even look at the past Allstars to superstars in the nba and play style in the nba. A few of them come from rugged backgrounds but all of them cry for fouls.
@@vizionaryentertainment8464that's bc everyone wants to be a tough street nigga now I mean look at lamelo ball, not saying he soft but c'mon gang he act worse than the niggas from the trenches lol
@ Ima '95er and tbh with you most of my age range and peers didn't grow up playing at the park either. All of our battles happened in the backyard on those adjustable rollaway courts. Gotta remember back in the day them courts weren't around so you had to go to the playground if you wanted to hoop
Kenyon Martin has some nerve saying "light skinned" when he's literally the color of my khaki pants...
Kmart identifies as a dark skin ninja
@@lamart3857you can put a pig in makeup and and a dress, and its still a pig
We dumb ass fuq as a race dark skinned people so hard that they was slaves that had to plead & beg to get rights but yet go at they on light skin brothers to justify being hard gtfoh
@@lamart3857that boy bright as hell no matter what nobdy say 💀
"What's wrong with citrus!!!" Killed me😂😂😂😂
Right 😂
Keenan is telling the truth, I’m from Dallas Texas and I live in California. There is a difference in lifestyle, not going to comment on basketball players being soft. but the lifestyle is much more lush. And he’s not lying about that UCLA team, I’m a big UCLA fan and I remember them calling UCLA soft and not thinking they would be able to pull it off. I think they beat that Arkansas team that they dubbed their defense is 40 minutes of hell.
Bro stop it. Dallas literally has nice looking hoods. There are literally parts of pleasant grove, oakcliff and especially north Dallas that look nice as hell.
The only parts of Dallas that are straight trenched out 100% is south Dallas and Joppy
@@Zaybreezecan confirm. I'm from where jayson tatum from the murder cap of america 9 out of the last 11 years. I moved to Texas and dallas look NICE af too. It's a big city. With that being said most of the city is sweet and pleasant. It's only parts that's bad and the crime map backs up what u said.its only like south Dallas and south east and around that area .
@@ZaybreezeNow Cali i know for certain look even sweeter than dallas and fort worth.
@ facts. I used to spend summers in stl and across the river on the Illinois side so I’m very familiar. It’s a night and day difference. That’s why I always call out Dallas dudes when they talk about LA hoods looking nice. Dallas has a lot of hoods but only a handful, like 2/3 are just straight up dangerous and even that’s being generous n
@ Cali has nicer aesthetic but when you go there in person(the hoods) you are way more on edge than you are in DFW just off the fact there isn’t any LA hoods where ppl are inside the house all day like they are in most Dallas hoods. Even in south Dallas it’s mainly just old heads and clucks outside. Not actual street nihs like California.
In Chicago we play, no blood no foul
In Jersey too
That's right...Chi town. Foster Park
Yeah y’all taught AD well
@ When MJ retired, he was still hoopin'. He was playing private sessions at Foster Park back-in-tha-day.
It use to be 12-15 guys hoopin' going at it!
Shyt talking and ballin'...weren't no fouls being called. (Unless it was super obvious)
Kenyon lives in the suburb of LA talking tough lol
Exactly he damn sure wouldn't say that in the hood 🤣
He didn’t grow up there though he from Michigan. He talking bout upbringing not him after his career over😂 I don’t see what him living in the suburbs now have to do with this conversation
He was born Michigan but raised in Dallas, since he was a little boy @@shawnjohn9907
He grew in oak cliff area from age 3 not Michigan. Just born there
@@shawnjohn9907 I’m saying he talking about how people growing up in LA and upbringing but it’s something’s he’s never experienced he not from LA he moved to LA after he made millions
I know exactly what Kenyon was trying to say but he explained this whole thing so badly…
All he had to say was “when people picture California outside of California they picture, sunshine, palm trees, and beaches” that’s it
Let me explain something to you. Doesnt matter whats perceived. What matters is what "is." AND AINT NO GROUP OR GANG COMING TO LA STARTING UP ANOTHER GANG IN LA.. BE THE LAST TIME THEY SAW LIFE !!! LA N*****S WENT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY PUTTING THE SMASH DOWN TO WEAR ENTIRE CITIES WANTED START GANGS BASED OFF LA STREETS THEY'VE NEVER HEARD OF.... LA N****S WENT TO OTHER HOODS AND TURNED THEM OUT.... &I GUARANTEE, AINT NO N****S COMIN TO LA DOIN THAT !!! Thats the enviornment we grew up in.. The ones where our sharks will come to your city out of their natural and still eat up your sharks !!!
But they don’t if they know better
I think the major cities NYC , DC , Detroit , Chi , Philly , Texas and even Florida. We all play rough n rugged finesse basketball , no blood no foul.
For years the reputation for LA hoopers has been they are really skilled but soft pretty boys...that's been since the 90s
1980s
Baron Davis brought this up on his Knuckleheads interview with Q Rich & D Miles.
You know what’s funny 🤔…us from LA don’t spend time talking down or even about other places 🤣…we low key admire cities outside of LA
One thing I always thought about while watching “Friday” was damn they live in some nice houses in LA
Bro that's crazy because I always was like "they block nice no trash in sight" 😂
@@sportstalkwithzo3707the houses in LA look just as nice as the houses in Texas. Only difference is the trees.
@@Zaybreezethat's true Texas lol sweet af too. They only got 3 hood cities and more Thn half of those 3 cities is suburban. With that being said they hood does look more run down the hoods in Cali.
Palm trees and nice weather but they wanna gang bang idiots !!!
I'm from Chicago and it's a big difference from Houston where I live now. Went back to Chicago and it felt so closed in with houses arm length away from the next house and one way streets. In college the coach told me he like Chicago guards because they are tough. Then I didn't even bring up the Chicago gangs and how segregated it is. Hard to get a job at McDonalds growing up. Food desert and everything else....
Kenyon isn’t lying
Kenyon doesn’t know what he’s talking about . Maybe he’s talking about the valley and suburbs . Most ball players that made it or I know lived in apartments or their house was in a fucked up neighborhood
Say you not from LA without saying u not from LA
@@ScottiesSportsTalk yeah homie don’t know what he talking about . He just agreeing to something he has no idea about
Facts
Clearly his kids played in the valley they wouldn't even last on the Eastside or South Central la so stop this nonsense
When Kenyon was talking about hardcore ballers from Dallas I am surprised he didn't mention Larry Johnson, Dennis Rodman, Julius Randle, so forth & so on.
Julius Randle ain’t nobody 😂😂😂 he soft especially when he first came into the league!He started that Tuff shit when he got traded to New York smh
@@theanswer7569 I don't know fam. When he played college ball @ UK he was a Brahma Bull. He would literally bully opponents in the paint. Obviously, the NBA is different level. Took time for him to adjust, but now he back in beast mode.
Rucker’s Park 🏚️ vs Venice Beach 🏝️ 😂😂😂😭😭
would pay to see it. my money on venice beach. i got 5 (hundred) on it. 💯🫡
Kenyon the same dude that cried on live tv when his son got traded from LA 😂.
😂
Kenyon be acting like he’s Bruce Lee or something 😂. Anybody can get touched
On the gang lol.
Fr fr they think they above getting found lol.. stop it.. if it got real they running an calling the cops 😂😂😂
@@Whoodatdj😂😂
“ What’s wrong wit Citrus ?!” 😂😂😂😂. @4:01
Paul pierce wasn’t soft or baron davis
2 outta 5k
Paul pierce is a snitch and there’s nothing with that 😂
@@704jizzle2nothing about Cali is soft especially
@@CLS_7301cali is butter soft. Dudes in cali made themselves gang bangers 😭😭 Cali so capped out yall never needed violence yall wanted it.
New York is doing that in 2025 they look even worse.
Paul pierce followed KG who is from where???? I thought so. LORD!!! Where u think he got that from is u cool? Do u hear Paul saying “on crip” NO.
To me, Kenyon is being 100% clear. When he was GROWING UP, the PERCEPTION of LA hoopers is that they were soft. He’s not calling anyone on the couch soft.
yeah but if it was on the flip side, kenyon would take full offense and want to put his dukes up
I'm from the other side of the world and I can tell you that all he's saying is that the scene is "LA players are soft" Nick and guy with the laptop are the guys he was talking about going by how they felt about it.
The initial point was clear, he just started talking in circles. BJ eventually got it and Swaggy didn't wanna get it 😂. Them two guys was from my era and that stigma was still around then so I know they get what he was saying, no matter if it's wrong or not.
Paul George is a perfect example of what Kenyan mean , decent upbringing both parents in household and it shows on the court sometimes with his mindset not saying it wasn’t struggle because we all struggle at some point but hell of a player but just seem to have laidback play and it shows on the
He’s not from LA bruh. He’s from Palmdale. That’s not LA G
@ he fall under that cali tree you know that .. he went to Fresno
Harden def not soft
Westbrook
Demar yall niggas say anything
I mean I get it but Westbrook parents together and seems like he’s had a good upbringing but he out there playing every game like it’s his last
@@Dawayne-g8p palmdale is not LA tho. If you are from Cali then you know that. It's a big difference. It's not LA at all far from it.
The guy with the laptop taking it to the heart lol
Michael Jordan was FROM North Carolina. Kobe's dad was in the NBA and he grew up in Italy. Still don't see how being a skilled basketball player makes you "soft" or not growing up a "certain way" makes you tough and others soft.
Shut up. Y'all soft
North Carolina hoods looks worse than cali hoods
@SoICYDRE662 , MJ didn't grow up in a NC "hood". He is from a country town and didn't grow up poor or struggling. Kenyon is playing the struggle Olympics and thinking only players who grew up a certain way were "tough" and the ones who didn't were "soft".
Same for Kobe, he grew up in Italy and had an NBA father. Kobe was tough and did not back down from any player.
DeMar DeRozan and Baron Davis grew up in LA having to deal with gang violence. No one uses "soft" in reference to them as players. People need to stop using soft. It's dumb and people think it's an insult.
@@Rqs79are you stupid? If the city has a higher murder rate and higher crime rate per 100,000 residents then by default the residents are more tougher than those without the crime. It's not rocket science
@@Rqs79 maaaan shut your soft ass up. Y'all L.A ninjas are softer than toilet tissue. We don't respect that.
LA hoops always been viewed as soft.. it don’t mean they can’t hoop they’ve just been viewed as soft. Even if they not soft, coming from other places LA is vieeed as soft
By who 😂
I agree with K-Mart on this one.
"What's wrong with citrus?" was the best...😂😂😂
Not brandon Jennings saying that after loosing to Pooh on national TV. Lmao
😂😂😂😂
Washington DC is the roughest place I’ve ever played at.
This is coming from a guy who probably never went and hooped at a park in Inglewood,Long Beach,Watts,Daygo, The Dino,the Bay area
He hooped at UCLA and Venice Beach thats why he thinks Cali hoopers are soft
He speaking on thousand oaks and Hollywood hoopers 😂
They need to change the title because in Oakland which is Northern California there is none of that Kenyon was talking about its nothing but kids coming out of apartments and nobody has ever called a baller from the Town soft
My question is, how the person that played the softest on the couch don't understand what playing soft is 🤔. I wonder why 😂
I been hesitating to jump on podcast cause I feel like it’s locker room talk and an unwritten rule is what happens in locker rooms stays in locker rooms, but K-Marts perspective and opinion has me re evaluating being on podcasts or not! The real will prevail I love it!!!
Damn yall ain’t never boxed like this 😂😂😂
Based off they explanation I can see why they say they soft
We do like to play more physical in Ny/Nj/PA
this struggle Olympic is crazy
Im from Boston and been to the west coast and a lot of LA hoods look like the suburbs compared to the east coast especially back in the day...Kenyan ain't lying if you had upstairs and downstairs in your house and a back yard you were living good...We on the east coast didn't have that if you did people knew your family was touching some 🤑
You don't know LA Kenyon 😂 we don't have families out here
😂 still make em soft out there
That's a crazy statement!!!!!!! HILARIOUS!!!!!!
No families definitely can make you soft
It’s sad to say because I’ve seen L.A cats hurt cats from the Eastcoast or worse
Kenyon won the debate when he said, “a hit dog WILL holler..” hit dogs hollered IMMEDIATELY 😂😂
I get What K Mart Was Saying …..Every Coast Got A Type Of play style …
Kenyon callin Gil soft in his face and he agreeing with him 🤣🤣🤣
@@jussarino sometimes something gotta give.. gill might make triple times wat the rest of them make . they sell shirts with his name on it.. Gil can live his life being soft he don’t give af. 😂
WESTBROOK AINT FUCKIN WIT DERRICK ROSE 🫡
Westbrook more aggressive
@@tmclifestyle4238 🧢
Kenyon said Palm trees lol. Man its not our fault Los Angeles is on the Coast 😂😂😂
He comparing the city of LA to the state of Texas 😂
People from the rest of the country look at LA as soft because of the movies. Kenyon brought up palm trees and beaches. There’s no beaches on slausun and western. It’s more perception than reality…
I ain’t gonna lie, the PAC 10 was known as the PUNK 10 in my neck of the woods (East coast), and I’m significantly older than all of y’all.
Agreed as a dude in nyc we always thought and think the style of play was soft foul calling complaining soft
This is a weird conversation
I feel like people from other states have a naive perspective of California. Most of the “tough” players won’t make it to the highest level especially in California because of how the streets and culture is set up. Especially nowadays in the basketball scene kids aren’t making it without a solid financial backing and for most part thats how it has been in California for a while.
They are literally missing using the word soft. Everything they are describing is finesse vs rough
Right, they mixing terms up. But I've heard Cali boys in football don't have that dog in em ...
@@jsanders9975 c’mon now - that’s been going on for decades. We acting like we didn’t call that white boy Ronnie "Sunshine" Bass Sweet lmao.
The Finesse is SOFT that's basically what he saying
@@1844life Who?
@@704jizzle2 Kinda. I'm from Chicago they did call West Coast athletes soft but I never called Lamar Odom or Carmelo soft, they was finesse.
11:05 😂😂😂😂 "See something, say something"
lol frfr
I’m from Dallas like Kenyon and it’s harder to play basketball walking pass gang bangers than cow pastures🤷🏾 and he wouldn’t tell Paul Pierce he soft from LA, he just bully this group of guys
Player from Dallas that was no where near hard
Chris Bosh
LaMarcus Aldridge
And they put Larry Johnson in a dress 🤦🏾♂️
J.Kidd, Gary Payton, Russ, Kawhi, Jrue Holiday, Tayshaun Prince, Tyson, and Reggie Miller was skinny and fragile but he never backed down from any player so for that I'll include him in there as well, Bill Russell- I'm not sure if we can count him as a Cali hooper because he was born in Louisiana but he moved to California when he was 7 and he learned how to play in California.
So this argument about California not having tough hoopers is insane. I look at the list of Texas hoopers and I don't see one player that's as tough as Gary Payton or Jrue Holiday
@ yeah as a Dallas resident, I totally disagree with Kenyon. Also in the 90s we got a in depth look in California basketball with White man can’t jump. In the 90s, we didn’t take that that series putting money on the games like in LA
Who tf is Demarcus Aldridge?
I actually knew lamarcus when he was at Seagoville very good ball player finesse type of game. Good dude also. So yeah u do have a point.
Bro dont try to play LJ, he would whoop they ass
“What’s wrong with citrus?!” 😂😂😂
All they had to say was when nick said he wasn’t soft Kenyon should have said “well why you ain’t swing on dlo after the incident”
He probably woulda been kicked out the league.
@ ok number one, there’s been plenty of locker room fights and I haven’t heard about anyone getting kicked out. And number 2, what exactly did he do in the league after that besides get a paycheck for riding the bench
Cus they talking about HOOPING!!! 🤣
@ how you do one thing is how you do everything.
@@14lunsshyea Aite. 🤣🤣 just cus a lot of yall type tough online, don’t mean that’s what yall do in person. See how that works?
Why does it look smoked out in there? Was it the lighting that made it look so bad?
They definitely were pre-game smoking lol
Shaming people for having a house and 2 parents is crazy
When you think of a California basketball player, you think of LaMelo Ball or coach Carter son😂
He wasn’t even from la just La county
I'm from LA and I know Kenyon is right about the perception from others outside of Los Angeles. Doesn't mean it's true, it's perception
Television, movies, and media don't help the cause either
Kenyon just be yappin man I swear
I'm from Cali. We grew up playing against hood dudes who decided to run the streets. He admitted Cali streets are not soft. A few of those cats were able to stay focused on basketball and make it. We run the league. It's happening in the NFL too
@drezred8478 But bro that’s the situation of anyone hooping in a large city in America. The hood is everywhere, hood dudes are everywhere. We all had to hoop against a mfer that had the 9 but most people understand it’s just a game and that you can get it back in blood on the court.
Y’all are damn near if not the biggest state. It’s no reason for yall and Texas not to have that. If we taking per population, then Maryland, South Carolina, Indiana walking ish in basketball college and above.
@@kite36 so how are we soft when its the same everywhere? Never seen a dude bully Miller or his sister but I see a D Wade from Il.
@@HTM7700 Most of the ballers in the league are from Southern California alone.
Cali born & raised. At 16, I used to go out to the DMV to visit family & most cats I hooped with assumed I was from SoCal & lived on the beach & I heard that we played soft. After I gave ______ work that changed, but coming from the Bay, I played a lot more 1 on 1, whereas the DMV dudes I played against played more team ball. Ultimately, just because that's what they thought doesn't make it true.
His point is dumb you think they soft bcuz of weather?
Dmv respresenter here. We definitely played one on one. Plus you can't lump the dmv as a whole. That's DC, Maryland, Virginia.
You could have a different game just living on a different side of town
From DC. What part of the dmv you hopped at because it ain’t nothing heistboxes where I hop at..
Yeah that depends on where in the DMV and who you’re including in that. Out of towners call parts of this area the DMV that are not. I grew up in Landover….we play on one on one religiously. This area rivals other STATES in ball and it’s just a county. We wouldn’t dare be called soft but have the same houses as Cali surrounded by apartments. NY just usually leads everybody else in the hate dept…that’s all this is.
Yet So Cal beat you cats in the Bay in those state championships
Kenyon right! If we had hot weather year round in Chicago it wouldn’t be a reason to go extra crazy when it starts to get warmer
Nick feeling like eazy e
West Coast is more finesse, East Coast is more physical.
West Coast is SKILLED and PHYSICAL...yall just some dumb@sses..white people made yall dumb
I’m a real estate agent in LA and the hood is made up of roughly 60% of properties with 2 or more units
😂. He doesn’t know LA at all. Palm Trees are on the West Side where people don’t hoop. Where people hoop it’s not all peaches and cream.
Yeah but it’s the scenario. It’s like the hustle mindset in NYC compare to Miami. u get off work at 2pm - you could head to the beach and get a tan. NYC we don’t have that. Ain’t nobody stopping at 2pm - we got to get this Money. The grind don’t stop.
@@1844life facts
Facts !!!!
These people see the LA on t.v and think Skidrow doesn’t exist
@1844life I feel you but LA don’t have that either. You can play “next” at Venice but it’s not worth it. Most people in LA ball in the real hood. Drew League is a great examples of the ballers we got.
@@1844lifeboy what u think LA is like? Lmao the place that gang bangin started u clown.
First lets get it🔥💯
I was trying to think what to type lmao u beat me to it
It's like the difference between the Biq East and The Pac12
I always wondered why dudes who grew up in houses be in gangs.
Cause that shit don’t matter idiot lmao
Km right. My son was living in Cali with his mother and I use to come down there to visit. When I would go hoop with him them mfers didn’t want no contact 😂😂. I’m from Houston Texas where we play tough
3:00 there is a lot of apartments in LA. Kenyon don’t know WTF he talking about. #OnCompton
😂 #Inyafellins
He not talkin bad he saying it's a different element wat he was saying that's all. But I'm not from Bumpton
@@whomeyhate219 it’s not different elements. We got projects and slums out here too.
@@whomeyhate219 *FEELINGS*
@@whomeyhate219 He’s wrong. He has no idea. Same elements in Compton Watts etc as any other ghetto in America. Outsiders go to Beverly Hills and suburban communities and think that’s Cali as a whole. Yall ignorant.
I got shot playing ball in Compton
🥷 in Cali soft that’s why they gotta run in gangs they need backup because they weak by themselves
Anybody from the East Coast who saw West Coast teams will automatically think them jokers were some soft muthas. East Coast teams will always thought to be some rough and rugged New York Knicks/Detroit Piston type cats.
Idk why 80 s 90s 00s California was a lot tougher than any state in the country
@tinyfalcon1185 it's the flashy gameplay like Kenyon says
"Whats Wrong With Citrus" im crying 😂😂😂
Here goes kenyon talking about how tough he is ....again....but he cried on thr couch when hes garbage son got traded....😮
They in the circle from that’s 70’s show🤣