You should have a lot more views and subs soon. You have good energy and concise information. I have a hard time accepting God but this format of explaining the message of the events in the bible in a logical way helps.
Wesley Huff has an excellent set of infographics on his site about many Christian holidays and traditions that are claimed to funnel from pagan culture and festival dating. I agree that the date of celebration matters less than our posture towards our fellow human beings, but it also matters that we are careful with statements of historical fact.
I've actually heard that there is a way to predict it pretty close...from the Gospel of Luke. So. It starts with the angel Gabriel coming to the priest Zachariah, the father of John the Baptist, who had entered the Holy of Holies to offer incense. There was one festival at the time that required the priest to enter the Holy of Holies: Yom Kippur, which falls around September 25th. Then, when Gabriel comes to Mary at the Annunciation, he tells her that her cousin Elizabeth is in her sixth month of pregnancy. Which is around March 25th, give or take. And nine months from there...is December 25th. Now, we don't know if it was six months to the day that Gabriel came to Mary, but that does put it in a fairly narrow time frame.
Zechariah was of Abijah’s course, the 8th course of priests, so his service when Gabriel appeared wouldn’t have been until May 6- May 26, 4BCE. He was sent home because being struck dumb disqualified him from temple service, so John’s conception is more like end of May/first week of June. The other historical facts to rely on were the census of Quirinius and death of Herod. In the text of the Bible (like Revelation 12:1-5 ‘s specific celestial tableau)and Jewish celebration of Rosh ha-Shana , there’s even more solid grounding to tabulate Jesus’s birth to exactly September 11, 3BCE.
The reason I do not celebrate is because Jesus never asked or commanded that we do so. There's a passage that says the day of one's death is better than the birth. That can be interpreted many different way but how I see it is that you've made a name for yourself by the time you've died. Whatever that name may be, you have an identity and a life around it that is unique to you and those around you. Jesus well versed in scripture would have known this passage and I would assume that he had it in mind when they celebrated passover and he say to keep doing this in his memory when he broke the bread that was his body and drank the cup that was his blood. His birth was amazing. He skirted death, he had no human father and it fulfilled many prophecies. But his death and what it did was far more important for us, had the single most explosive impact on the world, and is one of the few explicit commands he gave us to do. Remember and celebrate what he did for us and to remember him and what he will continue to do for us in the future. Today people mixed pagan culture with the truth, yet scripture says God is spirit and those worshipping him must worship in spirit and truth. There is not an ounce of truth behind Christmas, and that's why I do no celebrate. On top of the corporate cash grab it's become. It's an ugly holiday in my opinion with a lot of foundation caked on the face to make it look pretty. I'm not trying to spread hate. It's just my educated oppinion
We do not know with any certainty on what day Jesus was born. It is clearly not that important. But you are wrong about Clement of Alexandria. He simply said that some other people believed Jesus was born in May. To quote: “Therefore, from the birth of Christ to the death of Commodus are a total of one hundred ninety-four years, one month, and thirteen days. There are those who have calculated not only the year of our Lord’s birth, but also the day. They say that it took place in the twenty-eighth year of Augustus, on the twenty-fifth day of Pachon [May 20] … Others say that He was born on the twenty-fourth or twenty-fifth day of Pharmuthi [April 19 or 20]”
You should have a lot more views and subs soon. You have good energy and concise information. I have a hard time accepting God but this format of explaining the message of the events in the bible in a logical way helps.
Wesley Huff has an excellent set of infographics on his site about many Christian holidays and traditions that are claimed to funnel from pagan culture and festival dating. I agree that the date of celebration matters less than our posture towards our fellow human beings, but it also matters that we are careful with statements of historical fact.
I've actually heard that there is a way to predict it pretty close...from the Gospel of Luke. So. It starts with the angel Gabriel coming to the priest Zachariah, the father of John the Baptist, who had entered the Holy of Holies to offer incense. There was one festival at the time that required the priest to enter the Holy of Holies: Yom Kippur, which falls around September 25th. Then, when Gabriel comes to Mary at the Annunciation, he tells her that her cousin Elizabeth is in her sixth month of pregnancy. Which is around March 25th, give or take. And nine months from there...is December 25th. Now, we don't know if it was six months to the day that Gabriel came to Mary, but that does put it in a fairly narrow time frame.
Zechariah was of Abijah’s course, the 8th course of priests, so his service when Gabriel appeared wouldn’t have been until May 6- May 26, 4BCE. He was sent home because being struck dumb disqualified him from temple service, so John’s conception is more like end of May/first week of June. The other historical facts to rely on were the census of Quirinius and death of Herod. In the text of the Bible (like Revelation 12:1-5 ‘s specific celestial tableau)and Jewish celebration of Rosh ha-Shana , there’s even more solid grounding to tabulate Jesus’s birth to exactly September 11, 3BCE.
The reason I do not celebrate is because Jesus never asked or commanded that we do so. There's a passage that says the day of one's death is better than the birth. That can be interpreted many different way but how I see it is that you've made a name for yourself by the time you've died. Whatever that name may be, you have an identity and a life around it that is unique to you and those around you. Jesus well versed in scripture would have known this passage and I would assume that he had it in mind when they celebrated passover and he say to keep doing this in his memory when he broke the bread that was his body and drank the cup that was his blood. His birth was amazing. He skirted death, he had no human father and it fulfilled many prophecies. But his death and what it did was far more important for us, had the single most explosive impact on the world, and is one of the few explicit commands he gave us to do. Remember and celebrate what he did for us and to remember him and what he will continue to do for us in the future. Today people mixed pagan culture with the truth, yet scripture says God is spirit and those worshipping him must worship in spirit and truth. There is not an ounce of truth behind Christmas, and that's why I do no celebrate. On top of the corporate cash grab it's become. It's an ugly holiday in my opinion with a lot of foundation caked on the face to make it look pretty. I'm not trying to spread hate. It's just my educated oppinion
We do not know with any certainty on what day Jesus was born. It is clearly not that important. But you are wrong about Clement of Alexandria. He simply said that some other people believed Jesus was born in May. To quote: “Therefore, from the birth of Christ to the death of Commodus are a total of one hundred ninety-four years, one month, and thirteen days. There are those who have calculated not only the year of our Lord’s birth, but also the day. They say that it took place in the twenty-eighth year of Augustus, on the twenty-fifth day of Pachon [May 20] … Others say that He was born on the twenty-fourth or twenty-fifth day of Pharmuthi [April 19 or 20]”