Should replace the first barrel connector with a T in case all the barrels fill up it can spill out of the top +. You would lose some water from that end but it might save your roof in the long run lol also might want to run a pipe to the ground off it to avoid splash back on the wall. Going to build something like this in the spring as well.
@@AnthonyGutierrez-zn6mvonce all 4 barrels are full, the rain water would then backup into the gutters and flood them causing them to overflow and soak your roofs drip edge.
Plumb small fittings at the top barrel and the very bottom barrel and run a clear see thru hose so you can tell where your water level is at all times.. Kinda like a gas gauge if you will... I like the stacking idea. I may do this and gravity feed from an old well we have here on the property that way there is a constant supply of water to my barrels.. Thanks for uploading the video.. Looks good and the black looks clean painted on there.. I would had never thought about that attention to detail.. Good call.. ~rockinfxguy
I like the idea too of the layout and clear pipe, brilliant 👌🏽. I’m going to build same however cover the barrel casing with wood slats especially where I’m staying to enhance the beauty. Thanks
It's very interesting, very well designed, future problem is, that the weight of water on drums, supported itself on tanks' extremes, will cause break of its. To solve it, you must put a wooden bed along each tanks ( just on the side to hold the water 's weight.
Love the idea, been wanting to set up something similar, just havent had time. Others have pointed out what i know i would do differently but wanted to put in 2 cents. I will be putting in a first flush system for sure. And i would notch/dado 2x4s between the posts so as not to rely on screws to hold all that weight. Though since its already built, i would definately put on some simpson strong ties.
1. Drill an overflow hole just above the top barrel, 2. Cover the frame to protect it from weather/UV or paint frame otherwise it will fail over time, 3. Install some kind of filter system no matter what it is used, 4. Install splitter(s) at facet for different uses like hose, dripline, etc. Fix those and I'll give you more. ha.
Thanks for the video. My thoughts the same on the top half not being glued, only areas after the first flush. I added a first flush to mine to catch the fist load. I saw them on sale for 70-80 bucks. I simply grabbed a 4in plastic tube (about 18-20 in depending on how much trash you get in the collection area). I used a plastic 4 to 2 reducer with a screw cap on the bottom for debris removal. For the stopper I used a racket ball (2.25 in, so it works great on the 2 in.). Sorry I don’t have a pic. Basically, T pipe atop, the reducer below, the 4in storage below that and the cap at the bottom. The first flush fills up the containment area, water rises to close the opening with the racket balls and clean water continue to storage supply. Not in use yet. I expect to place this early in the collection stage and probably just after my overflow value. I’m not sure I saw one in yours. I placed an overflow value so my gutters don’t fill up and weigh down. BTW - a panty hose would work well in some cases.
What connections did you use to attach your piping directly to the barrels? Is it threaded connectors? The barrels I have have different threads on the two different holes in the barrels.
Impressive. I have plans to build mine soon. I wish I had the blue barrels I see everyone using, however mine are the brown one with the two piece lid system. I greatly appreciate how easy you've made it look. thank you.
You may want to put 4 pads under 4x4 posts or maybe even half of the plywood so it does not sink into the soil . Question So far I saw barrels with 2 caps , one fine thread the other course thread , HD or Lowe’s has fine threat 2”’adapters what about the course thread or your barrels have fine thread on both sides ? Also you could save a little and use 90 instead of “T” .
Cool project. Note, water is ~8lbs/gallon, so when full each barrel is ~400+lbs of weight. That's a pretty big load for the horizontal 4x4 boards. Did you toe-screw each horizontal 4x4 with 2 screws on the top, 2 on the bottom? Might want to consider more bracing? Eg, screw a scrap 2x4 underneath each of the 4x4's where they meet the vertical post?
Thanks for the considered feedback Nathan. It certainly wouldn't hurt to add extra bracing. It held up well so far 😀I used 3" screws, three for each joint.
I agree. Perhaps putting some 2x4 against the 4x4 to support the horizontal member. Screws shear whereas a 16 penny nail will just bend. Hopefully it holds, but it's worth looking into. Look at aquarium stands construction to get an idea.
you should connect another pvc connected to the drain pipe with a ball at the bottom that will go up and lock at the top and redirect water to the tanks. this is so that the dirty water from rainful is directed first to this pipe before it sends water to the water tanks.
Where did you get the connector? The one that connects to the barrel and to the PVC.. I need to know the name of the connector and where I can get them Thanks
what are you using to thread into the course thread side? did you say directly into the barrel, how does that work? doesn't the pressure blow them out, not being threaded on the course side?
Great system!! I like that you were able to get it off the ground to get better pressure!! That's my only limitation with the rain bench. You almost have to get a pump. Anyways great setup!!
LOL!! Thanks but I can't take credit for it being pretty. I was perfectly fine with my brown barrel but I was quickly vetoed by the wife. So this is my compromise. But I love how it turned out. Great channel by the way.
Could you put give a complete piece count for what to buy to stack 4 like this .. at least pipe fittings for sure … and did you buy screw in male adapter for the bung holes ???
Love this! Do you have below freezing temperatures where you are and if so, how do you handle what's remaining in your barrels when the cold weather hits?
Wow, this is really a very smart idea Sir, I want my brother in law and my sister to build exactly like this coz it rains so much in the Bohol island Philippines. Thank you for sharing your great video.
One of the holes of the plastic barrels have a pipe thread and the other a course thread. How do you screw the male PVC adapter into the course thread, will it not leak. ???
So when they start to fill up, does it fill up from the bottom to the top? What does it feel up from the top to the bottom of a little confused on that?
What about an air vent system and an overflow system? I have also been seeing systems with a first flush pipe system on it to catch the first rain that falls and cleans the debris off and then when that fills up, then you get the cleaner water in your barrels. I like the stacking method. I wish I could find a way to do this stacking build but with a first flush pipe, an air vent, and an overflow system.
This is a nice setup! I think I will be doing something similar. The only thing I can think that I might tweak on it is to be an inlet on the upper barrel on those occassion you might want to flush out all the barrels... just a thought.
Where did you find the coarse thread adapters for the bung holes? My barrels have a coarse thread and fine thread. HD and Lowes do not have coarse thread.
I have been having problems finding the exact fittings as well! I have spent to much for it to become economical but have come to far not to finish over these fittings. I need a part number please!
Question.... did those barrels have removable lids or completely sealed ones? wondering about using the used food grade barrels or if the lids come off too easily... HELP... used are so much cheaper.
one is 2" NPT thread, the other is 2" buttress course thread. That is the two standard bung hole thread types(bung hole is the proper term for those two holes). Most all commercial drums in the 15 gal up to 55 gal use the same thread types on those two holes, as long as they are the 2" holes. Some others use a smaller hole and I'm not sure the size and thread types on those
Thank you, I am going to install gutters on my mobile home and want a system like this on both sides of home along with my leanto so I can collect plenty of water for my home and chickens along with garden , might seem like over kill but if no power for long term it might not be enough as I live in south texas and it gets really hot here . Thank you for this vid, did you concrete your posts in?
Here in my home, Baja California. We have water problems and the city is implementing a contingency plan that will make us have water supply from the state only 4 days out of the week. ...could this water storage system be applied to potable water and be able to use it on the house trough an electric water pump? (To avoid having to instal ti avobe the roof)
We used to own a passive solar home with a 10,000 gal concrete cistern in it, the original owner left documentation on a struggle they had at the time with the state of Wisconsin that prevented rainwater from being used to flush toilets etc. because it wasn’t deemed “potable”. Their workaround was to put 4 barrels up in the clerestory/attic space and he’d pump cistern (rain) water up once a week or so, and use a 5gallon bucket with a little dosing hose to draw in a chlorine/water solution that would purify the rainwater deeming it potable. We lived there 5 years and pitched the water up there once, the rest of the time we used straight rainwater to shower, laundry, do dishes, etc. without any ill effects, we did have a pre-rinse system that diverted the first 50 gallons or so to help rinse off the roof, etc. prior to it beginning to add to the cistern, which helped keep the debris in the main vessel low/non-existent. There were studies done in Jamaica and Australia that show rainwater harvesting if treated carefully as a usable source for 99% of your household needs.
Would it be a benefit to have the barrels angled so the stored water can leave at lower levels? The top would probably have the least tilt while as you get lower it'd be more pronounced. Or possibly feeding the pipe through each barrel so that each barrel drains down to the lowest where the knob is
I'm curious how this system has worked for you long term. I really like the idea of stacking them horizontally, I'll be using that method now when I do mine. Without a first flush though do you get contaminants in the system? And with the full system glued up are you able to clean it? I'm not looking forward to the huge extra cost, but I think I'm going to add unions on mine to make the system more serviceable
Great work, but some major design flaws with the horizontal barrel placement. Doing research online many people do not recommend this unless you have horizontal support for the full barrel length. People have said the barrels will deform from the weight because they were designed for vertical orientation. And when they do this they will crack and break your connector pct pipes. As well we didn’t see any leaf or debris screens, overflow diverting or air vents at the top of the barrels
As a plumber, it would be easier to put in the male adapters in first, stack your barrels then pipe the rest, pre fab the t’s and glue it all to the adapters at once… oh and use clear primer unless you have no other option
How has this worked out over the years? What a great idea! I have been struggling to come up with a bigger system for Myspace. Wondering how the barrels hold up being on edge like that?
No, because it is gravity fed and the air flows back up through the pipes while the stream of water flows down. The rain will not flow and fill the 2" pipes completely.
I notice you didn’t add any vent hole line near the top of each barrel. I also did this dual barrel. But notice it only fill up about 75-80%. It couldn’t fully fill the bottom barrels
Should replace the first barrel connector with a T in case all the barrels fill up it can spill out of the top +. You would lose some water from that end but it might save your roof in the long run lol also might want to run a pipe to the ground off it to avoid splash back on the wall. Going to build something like this in the spring as well.
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How would it save his roof Like from water build up?
@@AnthonyGutierrez-zn6mvonce all 4 barrels are full, the rain water would then backup into the gutters and flood them causing them to overflow and soak your roofs drip edge.
Good setup. I like the way you did it so the barrels can feed each other (water) combined with the air vent.
Plumb small fittings at the top barrel and the very bottom barrel and run a clear see thru hose so you can tell where your water level is at all times.. Kinda like a gas gauge if you will... I like the stacking idea. I may do this and gravity feed from an old well we have here on the property that way there is a constant supply of water to my barrels.. Thanks for uploading the video.. Looks good and the black looks clean painted on there.. I would had never thought about that attention to detail.. Good call.. ~rockinfxguy
The clear piping to be able to see water level is genius!
@@cck89 I think so. Glad you finally seen my message..
I like the idea too of the layout and clear pipe, brilliant 👌🏽. I’m going to build same however cover the barrel casing with wood slats especially where I’m staying to enhance the beauty. Thanks
Hmm. I noticed virtually no responses to questions from the content creator... you're on your own folks!
It's very interesting, very well designed, future problem is, that the weight of water on drums, supported itself on tanks' extremes, will cause break of its. To solve it, you must put a wooden bed along each tanks ( just on the side to hold the water 's weight.
How did you seal the PVC pipe going in the barrel?
Love the idea, been wanting to set up something similar, just havent had time. Others have pointed out what i know i would do differently but wanted to put in 2 cents. I will be putting in a first flush system for sure. And i would notch/dado 2x4s between the posts so as not to rely on screws to hold all that weight. Though since its already built, i would definately put on some simpson strong ties.
looks good guy. Gotta go spend more money for the lumber than i spent on my barrels. Lol.
How did you connect the tees to the blue barrels? I can't find an adapter with the correct threads.
Did you ever figure out the fittings we have the same issue
They're 2" bung adapters@@billyoung8327
1. Drill an overflow hole just above the top barrel, 2. Cover the frame to protect it from weather/UV or paint frame otherwise it will fail over time, 3. Install some kind of filter system no matter what it is used, 4. Install splitter(s) at facet for different uses like hose, dripline, etc. Fix those and I'll give you more. ha.
Thanks for the video. My thoughts the same on the top half not being glued, only areas after the first flush. I added a first flush to mine to catch the fist load. I saw them on sale for 70-80 bucks. I simply grabbed a 4in plastic tube (about 18-20 in depending on how much trash you get in the collection area). I used a plastic 4 to 2 reducer with a screw cap on the bottom for debris removal. For the stopper I used a racket ball (2.25 in, so it works great on the 2 in.). Sorry I don’t have a pic. Basically, T pipe atop, the reducer below, the 4in storage below that and the cap at the bottom. The first flush fills up the containment area, water rises to close the opening with the racket balls and clean water continue to storage supply. Not in use yet. I expect to place this early in the collection stage and probably just after my overflow value. I’m not sure I saw one in yours. I placed an overflow value so my gutters don’t fill up and weigh down. BTW - a panty hose would work well in some cases.
Dang nice setup!
What connections did you use to attach your piping directly to the barrels? Is it threaded connectors? The barrels I have have different threads on the two different holes in the barrels.
That's my question too. Did you have to use any special adapters? I have barrels that have 2 different thread patterns.
Impressive. I have plans to build mine soon. I wish I had the blue barrels I see everyone using, however mine are the brown one with the two piece lid system. I greatly appreciate how easy you've made it look. thank you.
Great job. Consider a vent on the top barrel, not the inlet pipe, this will reduce air lock.
You may want to put 4 pads under 4x4 posts or maybe even half of the plywood so it does not sink into the soil .
Question
So far I saw barrels with 2 caps , one fine thread the other course thread , HD or Lowe’s has fine threat 2”’adapters what about the course thread or your barrels have fine thread on both sides ?
Also you could save a little and use 90 instead of “T” .
Yes! I’m having the same issue and came here looking for the answer. No luck on any videos yet. Let me know if you find something please!!
HELLL YESSS ......
NOW THAT SYSTEM GONNA WATER
1 HELL OF A GARDEN 👍🏽 .....
Cool project. Note, water is ~8lbs/gallon, so when full each barrel is ~400+lbs of weight. That's a pretty big load for the horizontal 4x4 boards. Did you toe-screw each horizontal 4x4 with 2 screws on the top, 2 on the bottom? Might want to consider more bracing? Eg, screw a scrap 2x4 underneath each of the 4x4's where they meet the vertical post?
Thanks for the considered feedback Nathan. It certainly wouldn't hurt to add extra bracing. It held up well so far 😀I used 3" screws, three for each joint.
I agree. Perhaps putting some 2x4 against the 4x4 to support the horizontal member. Screws shear whereas a 16 penny nail will just bend. Hopefully it holds, but it's worth looking into. Look at aquarium stands construction to get an idea.
this is what I did with mine, 2x4 bracing underneath each 4x4, and I've started using lag screws to attach them together.
What fitting did you use going into the the barrels? Are they threaded?
How well has it held up over the years without brackets holding the corners together? Also, did you have to secure it to the wall due to settling?
I like the video thank you its fantastic how we can collect water and use it for grass plants or other stuff very 😎👍
You can get some strongtie brackets to strengthen your corners
Solid advice 👍🏼
WHERE DID YOU FIND/LOCATE THE COARSE THREAD ADAPTER? THAT'S ALL I'M WAITING ON FOR 3 BARREL TOWER.
you should connect another pvc connected to the drain pipe with a ball at the bottom that will go up
and lock at the top and redirect water to the tanks. this is so that the dirty water from rainful is directed first to this pipe before it sends water to the water tanks.
Where did you get the connector? The one that connects to the barrel and to the PVC..
I need to know the name of the connector and where I can get them
Thanks
Im starting w a 1 barrel now. Appreciate the video 👍🏼
what are you using to thread into the course thread side? did you say directly into the barrel, how does that work? doesn't the pressure blow them out, not being threaded on the course side?
Great system!! I like that you were able to get it off the ground to get better pressure!! That's my only limitation with the rain bench. You almost have to get a pump. Anyways great setup!!
Thanks Black AP, but the bench is much prettier 😃 yea I hope to get a bit of pressure, we will see.
LOL!! Thanks but I can't take credit for it being pretty. I was perfectly fine with my brown barrel but I was quickly vetoed by the wife. So this is my compromise. But I love how it turned out. Great channel by the way.
I'm going to start on mine ethervtgis weekend or next. But my question is do you have a filter to catch debris If sonwherecis it.
You didn't show how you connected the PVC to the barrel tops
Could you put give a complete piece count for what to buy to stack 4 like this .. at least pipe fittings for sure … and did you buy screw in male adapter for the bung holes ???
Can we get a part two or an update?
How is the system holding up after 6 yrs?
Love this! Do you have below freezing temperatures where you are and if so, how do you handle what's remaining in your barrels when the cold weather hits?
well done on the build and on the video . thank you
Looks great, man!
Wow, this is really a very smart idea Sir, I want my brother in law and my sister to build exactly like this coz it rains so much in the Bohol island Philippines. Thank you for sharing your great video.
Thanks. Hey did ya find you need any kind of air hole at the top maybe for flow pressure?
Can you use drums with cover with brackets stored sideways the same way or drums with brackets on cover are not good for this sideways stored system ?
You did a very outstanding job because there is more magnitud and that converts to power but there is a advise you need air flow
Thanks Eddy!
How does it do with weight? 4x55gal barrels full of water is heavy, how did you reinforce to support that much weight?
One of the holes of the plastic barrels have a pipe thread and the other a course thread. How do you screw the male PVC adapter into the course thread, will it not leak. ???
So when they start to fill up, does it fill up from the bottom to the top? What does it feel up from the top to the bottom of a little confused on that?
How did you vent it so water flows easier? I have the same thing and my water trickles
What can i set up for one barrel overflow? Thanks
How often are you getting debris inside the pvc? Did you do any filtration at the gutter drainage before the pvc?
What about an air vent system and an overflow system? I have also been seeing systems with a first flush pipe system on it to catch the first rain that falls and cleans the debris off and then when that fills up, then you get the cleaner water in your barrels. I like the stacking method. I wish I could find a way to do this stacking build but with a first flush pipe, an air vent, and an overflow system.
Do you have any kind of debris filter at the top?
This is a nice setup! I think I will be doing something similar. The only thing I can think that I might tweak on it is to be an inlet on the upper barrel on those occassion you might want to flush out all the barrels... just a thought.
Where did you find the coarse thread adapters for the bung holes? My barrels have a coarse thread and fine thread. HD and Lowes do not have coarse thread.
uline they should have the fitting you need.
I have been having problems finding the exact fittings as well! I have spent to much for it to become economical but have come to far not to finish over these fittings. I need a part number please!
Are you 100% sure that your ramp could handle 1,835.84 lbs weight?
How are the barrels stand up
Laying flat like that
Think I would have used a semi circle for support instead of or on top of the horizontal 2x4s. That much weight over time may cause a problem.
Question.... did those barrels have removable lids or completely sealed ones? wondering about using the used food grade barrels or if the lids come off too easily... HELP... used are so much cheaper.
Great video
I notice that the threading is for the 2 holes are not the same.
Exactly what PVC male fitting did you use for each hole?
Yes this is tricky the right size thread adapters are to much money so I just shoved the same thread adapter in and epoxied it into place 👍🏼
one is 2" NPT thread, the other is 2" buttress course thread. That is the two standard bung hole thread types(bung hole is the proper term for those two holes). Most all commercial drums in the 15 gal up to 55 gal use the same thread types on those two holes, as long as they are the 2" holes. Some others use a smaller hole and I'm not sure the size and thread types on those
How strong is the water pressure? Can you use the hose to water your garden?
Nice job
What a great idea! so much cleaner looking and out of the way. hope my brother has idol hands this summer for a day or two. :)
Awesome stack, very well done.
Thank you, I am going to install gutters on my mobile home and want a system like this on both sides of home along with my leanto so I can collect plenty of water for my home and chickens along with garden , might seem like over kill but if no power for long term it might not be enough as I live in south texas and it gets really hot here . Thank you for this vid, did you concrete your posts in?
This is great 👍but how you deal with the dirty stuff accumulated inside drums and started getting mosquitoes and stinks. Do you dispose them all?
Nice idea. materials list is needed. Thanks.
noob here. did the 2" male adapters fit ok on both sides of the barrel? i heard that one side has coarse threads and the other side has fine threads.
The holes have different threads in the barrel. I couldn’t find the course thread fittings.
What did you use?
any update on the water barrels?
Wow nice one , you are smart 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
where did you get the course thread adapter? I cant find one for 2 inch to glue into built 3 barrel unit,just need the course adapter
no filter from the gutters?
Does the toe nailing give enough strength to hold all that weight. 500 pounds a barrel
Here in my home, Baja California. We have water problems and the city is implementing a contingency plan that will make us have water supply from the state only 4 days out of the week.
...could this water storage system be applied to potable water and be able to use it on the house trough an electric water pump? (To avoid having to instal ti avobe the roof)
We used to own a passive solar home with a 10,000 gal concrete cistern in it, the original owner left documentation on a struggle they had at the time with the state of Wisconsin that prevented rainwater from being used to flush toilets etc. because it wasn’t deemed “potable”. Their workaround was to put 4 barrels up in the clerestory/attic space and he’d pump cistern (rain) water up once a week or so, and use a 5gallon bucket with a little dosing hose to draw in a chlorine/water solution that would purify the rainwater deeming it potable. We lived there 5 years and pitched the water up there once, the rest of the time we used straight rainwater to shower, laundry, do dishes, etc. without any ill effects, we did have a pre-rinse system that diverted the first 50 gallons or so to help rinse off the roof, etc. prior to it beginning to add to the cistern, which helped keep the debris in the main vessel low/non-existent. There were studies done in Jamaica and Australia that show rainwater harvesting if treated carefully as a usable source for 99% of your household needs.
i like idea good job. has overflow been an issue?
Did you put a leaf guard on your gutters?
The chicken in the back row f**k off it sounds funny sounds like it saying that F off🤣🤣😂🤣😂
How does the water get in the barrel if the pipe is straight
What will you do to cleaning out the gunk from the gutters without draining all the barrels?
Does it need a air vent of some sort to make the water flow properly
Very cool!
YOu did not mention what you are using the water for. No filter or first flush system or a pump if required. Just curious.
Would it be a benefit to have the barrels angled so the stored water can leave at lower levels? The top would probably have the least tilt while as you get lower it'd be more pronounced. Or possibly feeding the pipe through each barrel so that each barrel drains down to the lowest where the knob is
Did you secure the posts in the ground and cement them? If so, how deep? Also, are you worried about the frame sinking when the barrels are full?
This was my question/concern as well.
And hopefully attached properly to the wall, so they won't fall with a strong wind
How do you like it after using it for a while?
So does it just fill the bottom barrel first and then continue upward ?
I'm curious how this system has worked for you long term. I really like the idea of stacking them horizontally, I'll be using that method now when I do mine. Without a first flush though do you get contaminants in the system? And with the full system glued up are you able to clean it? I'm not looking forward to the huge extra cost, but I think I'm going to add unions on mine to make the system more serviceable
What bout a run off, once the barrels are filled?
How much did you pay for your barrels? I bought 2 different kinds on Amazon. I couldn't find the blue ones you have.
Great work, but some major design flaws with the horizontal barrel placement. Doing research online many people do not recommend this unless you have horizontal support for the full barrel length. People have said the barrels will deform from the weight because they were designed for vertical orientation. And when they do this they will crack and break your connector pct pipes. As well we didn’t see any leaf or debris screens, overflow diverting or air vents at the top of the barrels
This is cool!
Nice.
One more question - did you use any time of a screen for filtering - if not have you found it needed?
I LOVE IT! Have been trying to figure out how to do mine since I'd have to do it myself or mostly by myself probably. Thanx for sharing!
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did you do it?? im thinking I can do it myself. .....
What threaded pice did you use to conect the PVC to the barrels?
As a plumber, it would be easier to put in the male adapters in first, stack your barrels then pipe the rest, pre fab the t’s and glue it all to the adapters at once… oh and use clear primer unless you have no other option
How has this worked out over the years? What a great idea! I have been struggling to come up with a bigger system for Myspace. Wondering how the barrels hold up being on edge like that?
I have some barrels that have been specifically stamped not to stack on their sides
The cap treads are not the same and where could I find it bigger treads fittings
Don't we need an air release somewhere?
No, because it is gravity fed and the air flows back up through the pipes while the stream of water flows down. The rain will not flow and fill the 2" pipes completely.
Nice job👍🏻
Nice job 👍, did you do a over flow just in case it rains to much
yep nice bud.
I notice you didn’t add any vent hole line near the top of each barrel. I also did this dual barrel. But notice it only fill up about 75-80%. It couldn’t fully fill the bottom barrels
What about an overflow valve,