22 years old and a 4th year millwright going for my Journeyman. Never saw myself taking this route but I absolutely do not regret giving it a shot. I love it.
To everyone wishing to become a millwright, learn how to cuss and don’t be scared of getting your hands bloody. Be able to eat your lunch with hydraulic fluid covered hands. Love the burning sensation of overhead welding. Crawl in tight spaces that are often soaked with water or some other type of fluid. Work so much overtime you don’t remember the last time you saw the “free world”. Oh, and don’t forget to get up on a lift ten stories high while signaling a crane operator in the pouring rain/snow. Now for the important shit. All the people asking about math, yes it is very important in the industry. You need to be able to read drawings, evaluate angles and fabricate parts. If you weren’t good at math in the past, quit smoking weed, hunker down and learn that shit. Trig, geometry, even some calc wouldn’t hurt. Oh, and know how to read a tape measure, calipers, dial indicators which goes back to angles. But yes it’s a rewarding career who’s in?
My great uncles were millwrights. They even built their own car and the only thing they couldn't make themselves was the spark plugs. Thinking of taking up whats in the blood. Cheers
My older brother and cousin are both Millwrights, graduated from the apprenticeship program just last weekend and just this passed week I passed my tests for entry into the Millwrights apprenticeship!!!!! Did u know, that once your 10 yrs is up in the millwrights (sometimes before) you can start another trade (like, ironworkers or electrical) and retire with 2 or more pensions!?!? Let's do it bro!!!! Lol good luck!!!
i was actually looking at a forklift operator position and saw the millwright apprenticeship for finch paper in glens falls might get my foot in the door relearn math because i wasnt the best at it and try the apprenticeship
My grandfather was a millwright his entire life. He retired from Great Northern paper mill in East Millinocket, Maine. I was curious as to what he did so I ended up here.
Me too. My father was one for decades at Inland Steel Corporation at East Gary, Indiana and I wondered what he did. He continued his education and became a General Mgr. of a 44" steel strip mill.
I am a machinist by trade & a millwright by choice in the Old & gas industry, Both upstream & down stream in the last 30 years. Can't think of any other job that suits me. On my off-days I do carpentry as a hobby a handyman in the home.
CNC guy, ACAD, welding and i do some industrial furniture design on the side. I just practically stumbled into this industry. I'm about to dive in. It seems to fit a lot of my cross training already. I do everything from blackmithing my own tools, to making my own mini-refinery, to drawing a book of prints for a machine shop to be lazed. I've worked with stick welding and made parts for the F-22 raptor but couldn't talk about it for four years. I don't know why but i think millwright would be best for me at this stage. I do like travel also.
There is a lot to learn but once you do each thing a few times itll catch on, dont half ass your ppe and dont be afraid to deny unsafe work even if its frowned upon, or youll end up like me with a 20 stitch scar across your face with a crooked nose
Obviously, the guy that's narrating this isn't a millwright. Any m/w that's been working on paper machines for any more than a day or two would never say "rollers" when referring to the ROLLS in a paper machine. That is how us paper machine m/w's tell if someone has actually worked on one before. If your working with someone and they use the term rollers, it's a pretty safe bet that they have never seen a paper machine before then. Most of the time we call them by their actual name, like felt roll, suction roll, press roll, dryer can, etc.
Just finished my apprenticeship. Going on 5 years now. I’m in house at a engine plant atm. Love my job. Not much work to do at an engine play compared to an assembly plant
I work at a petrochemical plant and these welders are highly trained in what they do. Must be a Texas thing lol. But I know there's always a few bad apples.
formulas , basic math, but still need to know for instance, figuring out a vertical angular offset on a MTBM and the STAT, and how to correct the problem efficiently, then again youre probably a pipe fitter, your ass can wait....well be back when its time to test pipe stress
Cam Mundy Hahahaha no buddy, you need to know a little more then that. By that I mean “basics” but they don’t use useless shit like precal. I’m talking about decimals and high precision
millwright isn't what it used to be.... unions are pretty weak these days and wages are a lot lower than boilermakers or pipe-fitters in most areas. This coming from a 3rd generation Millwright.
So how do you guys like it being a millwright? based off of this video it seems like you need to know a lot of stuff and have different tasks throughout the day.
So how do you guys like it being a millwright? based off of this video it seems like you need to know a lot of stuff and have different tasks throughout the day.
Got into pre apprenticeship bout a month ago and I'm learning stuff that the journeyman (4+ years of experience in the union) are also just learning, from here in illinois most of the guys I work with have worked from Kentucky to New York, the pre apprenticeship isnt bad money but jumps about 5 dollars or so once I get into the apprenticeship program and after four years I'll be make double or a little over that
No ! If you have enough education go into Electrical and Instrumentation. There is demand for E/I hands everywhere you look. And you won't work half as hard, and you'll go home a hell of a lot cleaner most days.
I'm a machinist/millwright. In Canada, they're really pushing women in trades. I got a young daughter right now, when she's older, I'm going to have her as my apprentice for either machinist, millwright or electrician. There's no wage gap in Canada at least for trades, any company that does have a wage gap between gender of equal qualifications.
There are in-house millwright/maintenance jobs. Alot of the paper mills in my area have a full time maintenance staff with a few guys that work off shift and weekends and they're called Millwrights. The difference between being a contractor and in-house is the level of experience. Contractors do everything and anything, from the huge jobs to little stuff. In-house Millwrights tend to only do smaller jobs just to keep the mill running. This is coming from someone was non-union In-house maintenance to working now as a union millwright.
I've been trying to get in, my buddy has 20 experience. He can't get me in, they only are excepting military which I think is great but how do I get in. I'm in California.
To be a Millwright you have to have a brain that works first of all if you know you're not the sharpest tool in the shed you'll never make it as a Millwright
Rogelio, I’m with Ed on this one. You need to know how to troubleshoot on the fly, or align a 6 ton turbine within thousandths of an inch. You don’t know what in the fuck your talking about. Sorry you didn’t pass pre-apprenticeship testing bud
"And the ability to work with all levels of management....." HAHAHAHAHAHA! My best teacher said it best "you fuck off.... (points to manager), you fuck off.... (points to charge hand), and you fuck off! (points to production supervisor)
depends, i travel alot so if you're into that its a good deal plus the pays great. long hours are very common. 12hrs days usually but just last night we did an 18hr day because a chain broke in a main drag
This is not at all representative of what most millwrights do lol these are the easy jobs....the soft jobs.....try working in a woodmill where the millwright name actually comes from XD
The origin of the name millwright is kind of disputed but it's perfectly applicable to steel millwrights, paper millwrights, power generation millwrights, and any other industry.
Or you can become a master millwright. A journeyman electrician is not even a master of being an electrician yet. Better to not make stupid remarks like that lol.
@@nigeleharis5886 that is a hilarious statement no one wants to be a millwright, it’s a terrible job dirty poor paid a skill set that isn’t in demand and isn’t respected companies tried to employ Millwrighs to maintain machine tool applications CNC years ago and it didn’t work a millwright is a Jack of all trades which is a master of none they are useful for bolting machines down or some bench fitting and some servicing but when it comes to a complex machine tool fault you need an electrical technician and a mechanical fitter who both have heavy maintence back grounds to be able to understand the complex electrical and mechanical systems from PLC logic and relay contractor components bridge rectifiers electronic circuits boards the list is never ending and the mechanical fitter needs to be fully competent in fluid dynamics thermodynamics pneumatic and hydraulic control systems so much millwrights are gone a thing of the past that never worked in the first place make nothing an hour poor working conditions a skill set that is so varied that you actually mastered not one skill. Mechanical fitters and electrical technicians are masters of there craft and hold technical theoretical and practical skills that make them arguably the most respected trades with in the engineering industry and the most valuable hence why they are the most paid there skill sets allow them to work across multiple industry’s such as aerospace rolling stock nuclear construction mechatronics chemical and energy and many More electricians are king of the skilled trades followed very closely by mechanical fitters everyone knows that it’s not a secret
@@southwest3369 entirely understand your sentiments. I am a millwright specialized into an air compressor technician, so I do deal with lots of what you mention. I understand millwrights will specialize into another trade that will be more constant with work in one of the skill sets they possess. It’s only economics. However to badmouth millwrights I do not agree with. Thanks for your in depth reply. My line of work where I am from is pretty niche. Enjoying the additional perspective!
Ironworkers are a completely different trade. They're in construction and not industrial. Millwrights are purely industrial. We don't steal work either. You'll very seldom see Millwrights working on pipes, electrical, or welding and building pressure vessels.
this work sucks ass. you will be working in 100 degree humid factories, covered in grease/dust and breathe lots of harsh chemicals that the machines let off. one good thing though, you will be in shape from constant walking up stairs and carrying heavy objects. one thing you should carry with you, Knee pads.
Sounds like shit...over worked never home watch your kids grow...different destination daily long hours shit!! Not for me!! Lots of headaches and stress related issues kind of job...no thanx!
@@Hellyeahbrother1993 sure but real men care about family life and there children where I come from its called balance and in regards to the topic there is definitely no balance its not just about work...im a steel fabricator for 33 years I work hard but I know when I got sick work never gave a shit about me but my family did and work is only secondary as far as I'm concerned...I understand the point the point you are trying to get across but honestly think about that kind of work life is really bullshit in reality..its good for a bit nothing longterm only a fool would want this really!!!
22 years old and a 4th year millwright going for my Journeyman. Never saw myself taking this route but I absolutely do not regret giving it a shot. I love it.
Millwrights getting the job done keeps American industry running. Millwrights rock 🪨.
To everyone wishing to become a millwright, learn how to cuss and don’t be scared of getting your hands bloody. Be able to eat your lunch with hydraulic fluid covered hands. Love the burning sensation of overhead welding. Crawl in tight spaces that are often soaked with water or some other type of fluid. Work so much overtime you don’t remember the last time you saw the “free world”. Oh, and don’t forget to get up on a lift ten stories high while signaling a crane operator in the pouring rain/snow.
Now for the important shit. All the people asking about math, yes it is very important in the industry. You need to be able to read drawings, evaluate angles and fabricate parts. If you weren’t good at math in the past, quit smoking weed, hunker down and learn that shit. Trig, geometry, even some calc wouldn’t hurt. Oh, and know how to read a tape measure, calipers, dial indicators which goes back to angles.
But yes it’s a rewarding career who’s in?
Count me in I am done with scaffolding I love building shit and I know about the trade, after I finish this next shutdown I am jumping ship!!!
😂😂😂best explanation of our trade. Lol 😂
Man fuck this shit I quit gets said a lot too... if only it was that easy to get out once you get in.
Just started my apprenticeship your comment made me glad I did
@@Zero7o7ozero hows that working? I'm thinking of becoming a millwright
bet that guy is pissed about the actor they chose to do his voice
haha
2:19
There wasn’t a single f-bomb in there. What the hell...lol
My great uncles were millwrights. They even built their own car and the only thing they couldn't make themselves was the spark plugs. Thinking of taking up whats in the blood. Cheers
My older brother and cousin are both Millwrights, graduated from the apprenticeship program just last weekend and just this passed week I passed my tests for entry into the Millwrights apprenticeship!!!!! Did u know, that once your 10 yrs is up in the millwrights (sometimes before) you can start another trade (like, ironworkers or electrical) and retire with 2 or more pensions!?!? Let's do it bro!!!! Lol good luck!!!
Yea!! Go for it!
i was actually looking at a forklift operator position and saw the millwright apprenticeship for finch paper in glens falls might get my foot in the door relearn math because i wasnt the best at it and try the apprenticeship
@@joewood1335millwrights drive forktrucks all the time as well
@@user-no7mz1pb2fit depends, we use operators everywhere I’ve been
My grandfather was a millwright his entire life. He retired from Great Northern paper mill in East Millinocket, Maine. I was curious as to what he did so I ended up here.
Me too. My father was one for decades at Inland Steel Corporation at East Gary, Indiana and I wondered what he did. He continued his education and became a General Mgr. of a 44" steel strip mill.
Oh lord the smell though
@@ninemilliondollars cool story I’m from Gary Indiana
Hey half I grew up working in that Mill, I may know your grandfather. Small world
@@bigdickenergy6969 you get used to it!
It can be nasty hot hard work and long hours and 3+4=5 did it for about13 years be safe fellow millwrights
I am a machinist by trade & a millwright by choice in the Old & gas industry, Both upstream & down stream in the last 30 years. Can't think of any other job that suits me. On my off-days I do carpentry as a hobby a handyman in the home.
CNC guy, ACAD, welding and i do some industrial furniture design on the side. I just practically stumbled into this industry. I'm about to dive in. It seems to fit a lot of my cross training already. I do everything from blackmithing my own tools, to making my own mini-refinery, to drawing a book of prints for a machine shop to be lazed. I've worked with stick welding and made parts for the F-22 raptor but couldn't talk about it for four years. I don't know why but i think millwright would be best for me at this stage. I do like travel also.
There is a lot to learn but once you do each thing a few times itll catch on, dont half ass your ppe and dont be afraid to deny unsafe work even if its frowned upon, or youll end up like me with a 20 stitch scar across your face with a crooked nose
What happend
Looks like you have a lesson to teach the appies, so they won't repeat your experience.
Thx for sharing. Interesting. Watching from Ontario Canada 🎉
Obviously, the guy that's narrating this isn't a millwright.
Any m/w that's been working on paper machines for any more than a day or two would never say "rollers" when referring to the ROLLS in a paper machine. That is how us paper machine m/w's tell if someone has actually worked on one before. If your working with someone and they use the term rollers, it's a pretty safe bet that they have never seen a paper machine before then. Most of the time we call them by their actual name, like felt roll, suction roll, press roll, dryer can, etc.
South-African Millwrights actually have two full trades,one as a Qualified Electrician the other as Mechanical Fitter
Ja dis waar.
Actually starting my studying in a weeks time and also noticed that it will be two full trades
I want to study millwright...any advice .?
@@sadijah4 yep,where abouts are you?
@@JusticeLogic819 I'm from south africa
Going on 10 years as a millwright. Wish I could stay as clean as the people in the vid. Local 1090!!!!
Hi I want to ready this program in school. Kindly advise me.
On my 1st yr apprenticeship its slow right now haven't been on any jobs sites just yet but im ready to get to work
Damn. I work aircraft. I could never do this. Much respect.
This is my first year as a millwright apprentice.. I’ll be done in 4 years
Where at
@@Savage22223 1102 in Michigan.. it was sooo damn slow though, I damn near just went back to my old job man
Halo I'll be going for a millwright interview on Tuesday can you kindly share the critical questions that were posed during the session 🙏
Just finished my apprenticeship. Going on 5 years now. I’m in house at a engine plant atm. Love my job. Not much work to do at an engine play compared to an assembly plant
Where at ?
I work at a petrochemical plant and these welders are highly trained in what they do. Must be a Texas thing lol. But I know there's always a few bad apples.
What kind of math skills ??
Basic adding subtraction multiply and divide right
Cam Mundy most likely
formulas , basic math, but still need to know for instance, figuring out a vertical angular offset on a MTBM and the STAT, and how to correct the problem efficiently, then again youre probably a pipe fitter, your ass can wait....well be back when its time to test pipe stress
Steven Zemo Thanks for the info dude!
Cam Mundy more than. Millwright is a master mechanic. Jack of all trades
Cam Mundy Hahahaha no buddy, you need to know a little more then that. By that I mean “basics” but they don’t use useless shit like precal. I’m talking about decimals and high precision
millwright isn't what it used to be.... unions are pretty weak these days and wages are a lot lower than boilermakers or pipe-fitters in most areas. This coming from a 3rd generation Millwright.
Depends where you are, near me a lot of locals are being merged
dan fairbanks $38 hr, not counting the package. $42 for a foreman.
So how do you guys like it being a millwright? based off of this video it seems like you need to know a lot of stuff and have different tasks throughout the day.
Kyle James sounds like you never been union lol
Kyle James keep working for peanuts with no benefits or pension!
Would this be compatible with being in the national guard?
LOL
@@MacD14 LMAOOOOOO
If you talk to your foreman they might work with you. Its a long shot though. Ik this is 4 years late, but I figured I'd give you a half decent answer
@@kyleryan509 Holy cow man. It IS late. And I really appreciate the feedback.
No job is compatible with the National guard.
So how do you guys like it being a millwright? based off of this video it seems like you need to know a lot of stuff and have different tasks throughout the day.
its always different never doing the same thing. alot of running and gunning basically since i do shut downs you get your job done and get out
Got into pre apprenticeship bout a month ago and I'm learning stuff that the journeyman (4+ years of experience in the union) are also just learning, from here in illinois most of the guys I work with have worked from Kentucky to New York, the pre apprenticeship isnt bad money but jumps about 5 dollars or so once I get into the apprenticeship program and after four years I'll be make double or a little over that
@@arsenicderkonig5430 how much money 💰 does it start off at?
@@givemecash9404 pre apprentices get anywhere from 15 to 19 depending on how well ya work and then apprentices get 21 about
@@arsenicderkonig5430 oh Iam sure its more in California
Would this be better than process operator or instrument and electrical?
No !
If you have enough education go into Electrical and Instrumentation. There is demand for E/I hands everywhere you look. And you won't work half as hard, and you'll go home a hell of a lot cleaner most days.
How many women get into this line of work? ..
I'm a machinist/millwright. In Canada, they're really pushing women in trades.
I got a young daughter right now, when she's older, I'm going to have her as my apprentice for either machinist, millwright or electrician.
There's no wage gap in Canada at least for trades, any company that does have a wage gap between gender of equal qualifications.
When I asked my dad if I could be a millwright, he said over my dead body. Love you Dad.
None
Plenty
So there's not a Non-Traveling Millwright job?
There are in-house millwright/maintenance jobs. Alot of the paper mills in my area have a full time maintenance staff with a few guys that work off shift and weekends and they're called Millwrights. The difference between being a contractor and in-house is the level of experience. Contractors do everything and anything, from the huge jobs to little stuff. In-house Millwrights tend to only do smaller jobs just to keep the mill running. This is coming from someone was non-union In-house maintenance to working now as a union millwright.
3:23? Really?
checkout Millwright vs Electricians
I've been trying to get in, my buddy has 20 experience. He can't get me in, they only are excepting military which I think is great but how do I get in. I'm in California.
Go to Texas its in high demand
mark gil Michigan always has work going for millwrights, join an apprenticeship and work your way in. That’s how you learn the most
It’s who you know or who you blow
No do not come to Texas. Stay out. Were full.
@@bigdickenergy6969 shut up
Cr is a great company to work for.
They’re a contractor in our Ironworkers Union, I’ve never worked for them but my cousin is rn
Johnny cash had to have been a millwright to build his automobile
One piece at a time 😂
I’m a Maintenance operator at a saw mill I dream of being a millwright one day
A millwright only knows one thing.... the electricians phone number.
Because electricians handle alignments... right?
Because an electrician can rebuild nuclear steam turbines, and complex hydraulic systems?
Are you serious? Come on now, it's just a joke.
Gotta love it #shutdownlife
To be a Millwright you have to have a brain that works first of all if you know you're not the sharpest tool in the shed you'll never make it as a Millwright
edfontenot horseshit
Rogelio, I’m with Ed on this one. You need to know how to troubleshoot on the fly, or align a 6 ton turbine within thousandths of an inch. You don’t know what in the fuck your talking about. Sorry you didn’t pass pre-apprenticeship testing bud
@@rogeliomartinez2005 this is millwrighting, not concrete work
I may not be sharp but I’m coarse like sandpaper and still get the job done I wonder if I’ll give it a go
Lol something tells me the guy in the video and the guy narrating are not the same guy.
"And the ability to work with all levels of management....." HAHAHAHAHAHA! My best teacher said it best
"you fuck off.... (points to manager),
you fuck off.... (points to charge hand),
and you fuck off! (points to production supervisor)
I wanted to be a millwright but affirmative action kept me out of union sad I could be a contender 😮
Well let's go!
i dont need no level, eyes like a hawk
Is being a millwright worth it?
depends, i travel alot so if you're into that its a good deal plus the pays great. long hours are very common. 12hrs days usually but just last night we did an 18hr day because a chain broke in a main drag
@@alexrobbins3024 what kind of company do you work at? Level 1 apprentice here at an asphalt equipment manufacturing plant.
@@jacks_Dc5 i work for alert construction services out of Fredonia kansas
@Alex Robbins
I know when you travel to a site they want to get the most hours a day they can to save on travel costs.
The voiceover doesn't sound like a millwright lol
You guys get your tools delivered? our foreman just shove as much as they can fit in their trucks lol.
Sounds like a scab outfit.
If you have to ask me then it will be to much for you. Most millwrights stop and find the answer and then continue on.
Millwright interview Thursday getting out the tree industry
What the hell is a turban?
It’s pronounced turbINE!
MW 1592 you must not be a millwright
@@BigAgitator no he is a snowflake
Tur-bin is how we say it in the power generation business.
Oh come on union Boilermakers can do all trades work.
Mike Jones ha ha ha, you can’t repair a pump with a 4 pound sledge!
So basically it's like babysitting but with oil?
couldn't make it as a millwright, ended up being a dumb caterpillar mechanic
Care to elaborate? How’d you even get started?
Why
I am studing millwright in rsa at Sol-Tech
ekt ook da geswot. goeie keuse my bra. dis n harde job met poes uure. maar die geld is goed.
Hoe is dit sovêr?
no a tenths of an inch doesnt matter.
??? I'm a machinist/millwright and I often work within .0005 of an inch.
That's not what she said...
This is not at all representative of what most millwrights do lol these are the easy jobs....the soft jobs.....try working in a woodmill where the millwright name actually comes from XD
The origin of the name millwright is kind of disputed but it's perfectly applicable to steel millwrights, paper millwrights, power generation millwrights, and any other industry.
Imagine having money.
WTF. SJE SAID
Jack of all master of none, either be a mechanical fitter or an electrician
Or you can become a master millwright. A journeyman electrician is not even a master of being an electrician yet. Better to not make stupid remarks like that lol.
Millwrights are literally The Trade of All Trades.
@@nigeleharis5886 that is a hilarious statement no one wants to be a millwright, it’s a terrible job dirty poor paid a skill set that isn’t in demand and isn’t respected companies tried to employ
Millwrighs to maintain machine tool applications CNC years ago and it didn’t work a millwright is a Jack of all trades which is a master of none they are useful for bolting machines down or some bench fitting and some servicing but when it comes to a complex machine tool fault you need an electrical technician and a mechanical fitter who both have heavy maintence back grounds to be able to understand the complex electrical and mechanical systems from PLC logic and relay contractor components bridge rectifiers electronic circuits boards the list is never ending and the mechanical fitter needs to be fully competent in fluid dynamics thermodynamics pneumatic and hydraulic control systems so much millwrights are gone a thing of the past that never worked in the first place make nothing an hour poor working conditions a skill set that is so varied that you actually mastered not one skill. Mechanical fitters and electrical technicians are masters of there craft and hold technical theoretical and practical skills that make them arguably the most respected trades with in the engineering industry and the most valuable hence why they are the most paid there skill sets allow them to work across multiple industry’s such as aerospace rolling stock nuclear construction mechatronics chemical and energy and many More electricians are king of the skilled trades followed very closely by mechanical fitters everyone knows that it’s not a secret
@@southwest3369 entirely understand your sentiments. I am a millwright specialized into an air compressor technician, so I do deal with lots of what you mention. I understand millwrights will specialize into another trade that will be more constant with work in one of the skill sets they possess. It’s only economics.
However to badmouth millwrights I do not agree with. Thanks for your in depth reply. My line of work where I am from is pretty niche. Enjoying the additional perspective!
@@southwest3369 sorry for my ignorance but mechanical fitter sounds like simply a higher level millwright.
Wouldn’t exist if they didn’t steal half their work from other trades, basically the handymen of the auto plants, iron workers afraid of heights
Ironworkers are a completely different trade. They're in construction and not industrial. Millwrights are purely industrial. We don't steal work either. You'll very seldom see Millwrights working on pipes, electrical, or welding and building pressure vessels.
this work sucks ass. you will be working in 100 degree humid factories, covered in grease/dust and breathe lots of harsh chemicals that the machines let off. one good thing though, you will be in shape from constant walking up stairs and carrying heavy objects. one thing you should carry with you, Knee pads.
also, be prepared to repeat everything you say to anyone you're talking to at least 4 times every sentence because nobody can hear shit!
I make $42 an hour doing this shitt did you hear that
Welders make like 75 an hr.
j c
Millwrights also go back and redo whatever welders do because most of them suck at what they supposedly specialize in.
Welders are fucking retarded
Sounds like shit...over worked never home watch your kids grow...different destination daily long hours shit!! Not for me!! Lots of headaches and stress related issues kind of job...no thanx!
J K it’s okay not everyone is a man
@@Hellyeahbrother1993 a man like this? Explain Please?
J K it means hard work isn’t for the weak men
@@Hellyeahbrother1993 sure but real men care about family life and there children where I come from its called balance and in regards to the topic there is definitely no balance its not just about work...im a steel fabricator for 33 years I work hard but I know when I got sick work never gave a shit about me but my family did and work is only secondary as far as I'm concerned...I understand the point the point you are trying to get across but honestly think about that kind of work life is really bullshit in reality..its good for a bit nothing longterm only a fool would want this really!!!
J K i don’t have a family so for me it doesn’t matter yet
Lol..... arrogant millwrights.....nothing more than furniture movers
I'm a highly paid and educated furniture mover.
So sad with all our commitment, training, and dedication our pension is shit now