The only thing worse is not Fung himself, but the mindless robots in the comments who take what he says even further with some of the most ignorant stuff you will ever hear.
Jason Fung taught me how to fast. I never gave up carbs, just fasted and ate whole real foods. Fasting really was a life changer for me. Take what makes sense to you leave the rest.
A long time ago in highschool, i met a girl that went on the chocolate diet, meaning for lunch and diner she only ate a bar of chocolate, and she lost so much weight and a a fast pace. Why? Because she was a caloric déficit!
I’d like to meet him and introduce him to my food journals and weight tracker over the last 5 years while I lost 100lbs and have been maintaining my loss, eating lots of carbs the WHOLE way! Sometimes I even ate lots of cookies cuz cookies are life!
@@coppertopp2268 I’m educated on what works for my body plenty thank you. I’m guessing you’re a carnivore or keto zealot just by your comment. I’m leaner, stronger, healthier, more clear headed and my gut motility and digestion is better than ever eating carbs and lots of fiber. If your diet works for you, great but it ain’t for me. I drank that bs keto diet crap years ago and it just left me miserable and made me hate my life.
I know it is a rhetorical question but I'd like to answer it anyway. You consumed less energy than your body needed so it had no choice but burn your bodyfat in order to get the energy to function properly . Basically you were eating under your maintenance calorie intake level. When it comes to losing weight nothing else really matter. It is as simple as that.
10lbs at 350g of carbs... And I weigh 105 lbs now! Did no sustained cardio, just weight training. The longest cardio I did was probably 4 minutes on a treadmill during an exercise class, I couldn't say "no" haha...
Unfortunately, years ago, Fung was my first introduction to weight loss books. I spent far too long trying to reconcile his BS with reality, and I couldn't understand why every other nutrition, fitness, and diet book/source I read afterwards stated the complete opposite of Fung's "Obesity Code." Once I finally started searching around for arguments that directly countered Fung, everything made sense for me and I was able to use actual information to improve all aspects of my health (especially my diet and eating habits). To put that anti-carb brainworm to rest, I did the "potato hack" for a week, eating 2.5 kilos of gold potatoes per day (over 400gm carbs per day), and I ended the week about 3kg lighter. I've now been doing weighted calisthenics and eating low-fat, high-carb, high-fiber for years now, and I am satisfied with my understanding of resistance training and healthy eating. On the scale, I am currently back at the weight I was desperate to lose many years ago when I first found Fung's book, except that I had lost 12kg and then gained it all back as muscle through resistance training and eating the diet I mentioned. No thanks at all to Jason Fung, of course. Never trust a dude that tells you legumes will make you fat.
I find it strange that all these pro-keto doctors keep on going about how fruits can also make you fat. Why are most vegans and fruitarians so skinny???
Lost 22 pounds in 6 months eating rice and rice based foods ( I am South Indian ) three times a day . I was satiated and didn’t feel like I am starving . I walked 8 kms a day and did 45 mins hitt ( cardio plus weight training alternate days ) . I used to take Fung seriously sometime back .
I was following Fung for a while desperate to lose weight. Fasting for 24-48 hours at a time while training for a marathon and they’d keep telling me it’s fine your getting fat adapted your body has lots of fat stored as fuel - well I’m not dead and it didn’t kill me but my performance sucked and I felt like absolute crap and like I was going to die!
Fasting + training for a marathon is what you did wrong. Training is catabolic - you need to eat to recover and improve. I made the same mistake for too long lol, and now only intermittently fast about 2 times a week, on non-training days. If you fast too much your training will stall.
Were you training in heart rate zone 2 for your marathon? I can cycle in zone 2 for hours while fasting and still feel fantastic If you're training in zone 3 or above--which means you're working at an intensity where your mitochondria can no longer meet your energy production needs--then you're going to need glucose to perform well and not feel like "absolute crap" This is a case of user error.
Layne I just wanna say I really appreciate what you do and I think it’s very commendable. The past few years for me have honestly been hell lol from having an emergency surgery and being diagnosed w dysautonomia to developing an eating disorder, so much of that I believe was directly caused by listening to the nutrition bs that’s out there. Had I come across your content earlier I probably could’ve avoided it all together. It’s sickening how people try to scare and manipulate people into food rules and dogma. There needs to be more people like you calling it out. Keep doing what you’re doing!
Hey Matt, my name is Sarah. I have a very similar story as well. I don't have dysautonamia but I have many physical health and mental health problems too. I fell victim to diet culture as well. Dont beat yourself up for falling for them. We all did during covid. We are all now trying to find balance, whatever that means for each of us. Take care and eat balanced.
I lost 100 pounds of weight by ensuring a calorie deficit and a strict exercise regime. I consumed chicken, broccoli, carrots, beef, bacon, bread, and gin and tonic. My diet had lots of fat, protein and some carbs. Most people don't need to fast or go keto or carnivore. There will be some people that need very restricted diets, but not many
Yes he is obviously intellectually challenged and his followers. Same as all these carnivore keto guys. If you try to have a debate with them you quickly realise their brains aren’t functioning right and it’s better to leave them be
Thank you once again for being my only lifeline to nutritional sanity while I once again went down a nutritional cult rabbit hole with these quacks for 9 months.
Right?! Every time I almost fall for one of these snake oil salesmen I rewatch videos about the guy who went on the twinkie diet and lost a bunch of weight and improved all his biomarkers.
I lose fat for competition levels in 18 weeks. For the first time in 2021 my diet was between 55% to 60% of carbs EVERY DAYS...NO depletion ... My best pre contest ever in 9 years... And i have the best conditioning on the stage in the 4 shows... Low carb never...
I followed the meat centric high fat no or low-carb diet (keto, whatever). It does work to a point in that food heavy in saturated fat is satiating so lower calorie intake..but when I had my cholesterol checked and it was 535, my Dr told me to knock it off. I know these people say that blood cholesterol doesn't matter, but my Dr does, and I just have to take his word for it. Ever since I went back to basic CICO with carbs, I continue to lose, feel much better, skin cleared up, and realize that diet fads are nothing new.
If I understood correctly the correlation in that graph could be as simple as people that eat too many calories, also eat higher ratio of carbs because they drink for example soda or the kind of extra calories people usually drop first when they go on a diet. It's not the carbs that is the actual problem, but the ratio happens to be higher with people typically over eating.
I am 59, carry less than 9% body fat, am not yet on any HRT (will when I am told I need to), and eat tons of carbs that I log into MyFitnessPal (free version) every day. It's all about that EB, yo! BTW, brown is your color, my friend. Earth tones for the win!
If you undereat the amount of calories your body requires to function on you will loose weight, no matter what diet. But quality of food does matter, as does physical activity.
I went from 115 to 105 lbs on 350g carbs and 1800 calories a day. I lifted weights, did not do any cardio longer than 4 minutes (not by design, just by preference, laziness, and heat wave).
In 2007, I lost 40 lbs. the entire time, I kept these macros: 60% carbs, 26% protein, 15% carbs. I kept my calories between 1400-1800 per day. I ran 5x a week (2-6 miles each time) and strength trained 3-4x a week.
People are overweight due to years of eating too much. But why are they eating too much. Dr Fung has changed my life by learning about fasting and what I was eating and when and focusing on the why.
I trust that dr layne is telling the truth. Something that bothers me is that people like Jason fungus is trying to convince us that eating low carb which is almost impossible to stick to is the answer. I agree that people like me tend to eat carbs that are full of sugar which is messing us up. But eating nutritious food that is prepared in a delicious way will help us lose weight
That's funny because I've been this bodyfat for over 23 years, even back in 2008 when I was doing the typical bodybuilding diet and eating over 300g of carbs per day. I've also been my fattest by only eating meat, when the amount of meat I was consuming was more than the amount of meat that my body required. It's almost as though you can lose fat by eating carbs in a deficit and gain fat by eating meat in a surplus...
It is fair to mention that it wasn’t “meat” specifically it was the calorie dense foods. I would guess fattier cuts of meat. I feel my best when eating protein and fiber everyday, aka protein is meat for me. I just don’t eat excessive amounts of meat is all, as I’m an omnivore.
Lol ironically I managed to lose 25lb following Jason Fung's OMAD and carb thing in 2021.... Then I decided I wanted to be a bodybuilder in late 2021.. and I realized that a good portion of the "weight" I lost was actually (to my horror) muscle. Yeahhhh.
This is also my experience. I’ve found that whenever I bulk i build muscle that I can see but mysteriously whenever I cut using interment fasting I’ll always lose my muscles and never been able to lose the belly when I reach a certain point. That got me confused a lot
He just wants to keep selling books based on his nonsense. Thank again for keeping us truly informed…guys like Dr. F and the others will keep people so confused
I seemed to lose weight just fine in 10th grade when I decided to eat nothing but a mountain dew all day & a bowl of vegetables for dinner for 9 months! all carbs 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
If sugars are only converted to fats in very small amounts, what happens to excess dietary carbs (above and beyond what's possible via glycogen storage)?
I eat about 150 to 250 gram of carbs (bread included) and I lose about half a kilo to a kilo, 1 to 2 pounds a week while my strength stays the same, so carbs don't make you fat if you eat in a caloric deficit. Oh and I'm a prediabetic.
There was a very small study that a macro of 50% Carbs, 35% Protein, and 15% Fat helped participants lose 10.5lbs of fat and gain 2.5lbs of muscle. I ate more than that and lost a ton of weight. Not body shaming, but Jason doesn't look too fit and sounds like he is trying to sell his device.
Im diabetic… for me… it is very hard for me to stick to a high carb n super low fat diet… so i am on low carb high protein now… easier for me to lower weight n maintain lower weight… Ps i respect both Layne n Jason. I acknowledge both of their contributions to nutrition…
I cannot believe I did not find this channel until now. Came here from Andrew Huberman BTW. This is kind of information I need after going thru hell with Carnivore and Keto diets in the past few weeks.
I've eaten low carb, keto, and even carnivore for a short time. It's hard to over consume meat. It's easy to over consume fake foods. Not all carbs are fake food. Fat is ok and carbs are ok. The take away for me was to eat real food and to not over consume. Lastly, it is more complicated than calories in/calories out. However, if exercise does not increase calorie burn, then how is it that just sitting all day tends to lead to weight gain??
They are the 99% who don’t regularly exercise, and have developed what’s called metabolic syndrome over a 3-4 decade life span. Their systems are so malfunctional and they eat so many carbs without exercise that they cannot offset the incredible glucose spikes to the blood and their insulin is constantly elevated trying to clear the blood of glucose. Chronic insulin elevation locks up body fat. It gets so bad that if they don’t eat every two hours for a fresh hit of glucose that their bodies are literarily starving despite the massive amounts of fat stored. Only way to bust through that illness is to avoid carbs and introduce long fasting windows to allow your system to start to repair its normal metabolic functions.
I honestly think an educational video or series explaining and connecting respiratory quotient, C02, doubly labeled water, fat oxidation, and weight loss is going to be extremely beneficial for this community. These concepts appear in countless studies and it seems no one, including possibly Dr. Jason Fung and commenters of this video, has any idea how to properly put these into context. Someone make the move and give the general population the knowledge they deserve.
What has the ""general population" done to deserve anything ? What makes them entitled to the knowledge they wouldn't understand anyway? Most people can't even understand the most basic laws of physics. Losing weight for an example is based on the simplest principle, you take in less energy than your body is using. It can't get any simpler. Why overcomplicate it?
@@elduderino1329 I think the issue isn't in regards to the definition of energy balance or its complexity (although there are quacks who will argue with this claim and Layne courageously battles these quacks in hopes of reducing the amount of misinformation that floats around online). I think the issue is that humans and human behavior is complex, nuanced, and over-complicated. Simply educating a human being on energy balance is not nearly enough to get them to be able to lose weight. Every one of us is different and something that works for someone may very well not work for another person and it may or may not have anything to do with the absolute validity of the method or the genetic variance of the two people at all. Nutrition is muddy because there is no objectively right way of doing something. Every single human has slightly different requirements and most people don't have the knowledge, resources, money, time, or motivation to even figure out what their requirements are. The result of this is people blindly following others and either bumping their heads against a brick wall for a very long time or finding a path that they think works for them and makes them happy.
I tried Lumen and returned it because it was completely worthless for me. I did an RMR test (as well as a VO2 and DEXA Scan) and it was so much more revealing. I was undereating by about 500 calories so I'm glad I now have that data plus the Carbon Diet Coach to help me lose the last little bit of fat over the next few months.
I love that I’m watching you say that Lumen is essentially pointless and there’s an ad for Lumen underneath the player. It’s like they know their product is shit and don’t give a fuck.
Layne, if less than 2% of what i eat as carbohydrate winds up as addipose tissue fat, and it is mostly fat that lands there, that would mean if I ate 5000 kcal more than i burn per day and only eat pure sugar, or starch I only gain 100 kcal in bodyfat stores per day right? So since a kg of bodyfat is estimated to be around 7000 kcal of energy roughly it would take me 2 whole month to accrue 1 KG of additional body fat. Are you sure this is how it works? I mean if this is the science I guess overeating by massive amounts is hardly a problem as long as you go pure carb then...asking for a friend here.
I've said it before but I swear to God, the people that peddle this BS and the ones that believe it have clearly never known even a lean high school athlete in their lives... Certainly not followed them around while they eat. When I was the leanest I've ever been and you could trace veins All through my stomach and obliques, I ate over 400 g of carbs a day. Hardly unique in that way
I am super fit and i eat 400gr of carba daily. It fits in my total calories so no issues there and carbs are insulin releasing so very muscle building and muscle sparing and start MPS with mtor
I have spent a lot of time in both camps to end up with essentially the belief that high carb, low fat is best for most athletes. You also gain the advantage of a "buffer" on high carb low fat in the form of muscle glycogen. My understanding is that low carb people store less glucose in the muscles (due to demand driven concept of gluconeogenesis) so you are almost always running on a "just barely sufficient level of glycogen" in the liver and the muscles. It is also my understanding that no one completely ceases to burn fat. So if fat intake is low enough, any net fat gain would have to be a result from the conversion of lipolysis from the excess carbs, whatever those may be. I definitely believe in CICO, ultimately, but I do think at least for me, that eating high carb and low fat allows me not feel like a zombie. Same caloric intake, I perform much better on high carb. I can actually push weights and make PRs. On low carb, I can barely get out of bed. It is a night and day difference. I also think if you exercise a lot, high carb is superior as well due to the carbohydrate sink. Fat oxidation from body fat stores seemingly hits 90% of its output at low intensity, but if you up the intensity, the glucose gets added to the fuel mixture. That said, there was one study that indicated fat oxidation goes down slightly when super high intensity work is done, but it isn't that much (90% vs 75%). So those extra carbs from hard exercise (if not laced with fat) will refill glycogen and not lead to fat gain, which will also allow you to power your next session with proper itensity. Again, I used to buy into the LCHF type stuff, but after going 3+ months MULTIPLE TIMES (I have 15 years, and thus about 15 cycles of both of these "diets"), that I finally came to the conclusion that life is simply not worth living on LCHF. You can't really hit exercise that hard or if you do hit it hard it cannot be done very often, very long, or both. If you like to move and be outside (with more than low intensity), don't go low carb, IMO. If you want to sit in your house in the winter and watch netflix, sure go LCHF and keep calories in check. You will be fine.
😂😂😂 my Dr. might need to run some more test on me then and explain how I’ve lost 170lbs …. Because English muffins with scrambled eggs or protein oats are my breakfast 90% of the time so that can’t be it 😂
Man, don't tell him I lose fat eating white rice. He won't comprehend it, he'll explode. Edit: carbs sources are cheap, so it doesn't make sense to eliminate it completely, for students that is.
Thank you for always clarifying & putting reliable information out there. These “gimmicky“ people drive me crazy😑 with all the confusion & false information they’re feeding people, especially those who don’t have the exercise science background knowledge 🤦🏽♀️
I hardly ever remark to videos because negative comments are for trolls...however I adore Dr Fung...have followed almost every single word that he has said and he does Not say that you have to not eat carbs to lose weight. His whole premise is intermittent fasting which he can be quoted saying you can do it with ANY diet of your preference. He has said fasting is easier when you lower your carbs... He has helped so many people...myself included...and incorrectly representing him my keep someone else from being helped by his life saving messages. Please, please, please 🙏be careful when you are speaking for another!
Fasting and low carb are not for everybody. But those who are sick with type 2 diabetes can have their disease reverse through low carb and intermittent fasting. Many people including myself can testify that is true! When you are diabetic and have poor metabolic health, your body has difficulty burning fat and you are insulin resistant ( your cells are unable to take up any more glucose from your food and more blood sugar is staying in your bloodstream and this causes a lot of health issues). If you’re metabolically healthy, and you are able to burn all the carbs that you are taking in, then you should be fine.
I've never lost weight as much or as quickly as I did on the high-carbohydrate/very low-fat Pritikin diet, which I adopted in the 1980s on my own initiative. In a matter of weeks I went from embarrassingly paunchy to so thin that the physician who was treating me for familial hypercholesterolemia (Type IIa hyperlipidemia) referred to me (she did have a rather tart sense of humor) in conversation with my wife as Ichabod Crane. (My diet was so excessively devoid of fats that my physician eventually urged my wife to put some back into my meals to bring my HDLs back up.) I knew Fung had to be full of shit!
The only thing worse is not Fung himself, but the mindless robots in the comments who take what he says even further with some of the most ignorant stuff you will ever hear.
Jason Fung taught me how to fast. I never gave up carbs, just fasted and ate whole real foods. Fasting really was a life changer for me. Take what makes sense to you leave the rest.
you actually needed someone to teach you how to fast ??? lol ok
yes , yes I did. he kept me safe and knowledgeable
the difference between an idiot and a safe healthy fast
I lost 80lbs over the last year, eating carbs the whole time, and I'll Larsen Press more than Fung's entire lineage can deadlift.
Double Based!
Let's gooo!!!! This comment 🔥
Idk man there’s a good chance ghengis khan is in that lineage somewhere!
LOL
@@VicDienekes Lmao
Guess I imagined losing 120+ lbs over the last year or so while having 50 - 65% carb intake every day.
That's because you were in a caloric deficit. Tgere are many ways to eat and successfully lose body fat. Great job on shedding the weight!
Yep I got below 10%BF(caliper), down from 20%, eating 1gram/lb protein, 60% carbs the rest fat. Fung is FOS.
You probably weren’t tracking *net* carbs 😂
Same. Lost 100lbs on a 68/12/20 carb/fat/protein diet. Diet fanaticism is so absurd
@@TheSean71 he's being sarcastic
HUMAN RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS!
Right. But no need to shout. It is annoying.
Hold my Pop Tart and watch me!
A long time ago in highschool, i met a girl that went on the chocolate diet, meaning for lunch and diner she only ate a bar of chocolate, and she lost so much weight and a a fast pace. Why? Because she was a caloric déficit!
I’d like to meet him and introduce him to my food journals and weight tracker over the last 5 years while I lost 100lbs and have been maintaining my loss, eating lots of carbs the WHOLE way! Sometimes I even ate lots of cookies cuz cookies are life!
Hell ya
I'm losing weight steadily month on month for at least the last 6 months and I eat lots of carbs - pasta and bread mainly.
Eating all of those carbs is going to mess up your autophagy and gut microbiome. Educate yourself Sarah.
@@coppertopp2268 I’m educated on what works for my body plenty thank you. I’m guessing you’re a carnivore or keto zealot just by your comment. I’m leaner, stronger, healthier, more clear headed and my gut motility and digestion is better than ever eating carbs and lots of fiber. If your diet works for you, great but it ain’t for me. I drank that bs keto diet crap years ago and it just left me miserable and made me hate my life.
@@coppertopp2268 🤡
Shoot. Somebody better tell the 40 lbs of fat I lost while eating 250g of carbs everyday.
I know it is a rhetorical question but I'd like to answer it anyway. You consumed less energy than your body needed so it had no choice but burn your bodyfat in order to get the energy to function properly . Basically you were eating under your maintenance calorie intake level. When it comes to losing weight nothing else really matter. It is as simple as that.
@@elduderino1329 yeah that's basically what Layne said in this video...😂
@@elduderino1329 That wasn't a question, it was a statement....
Everybody is different, high carbs is not for everyone. There's no such thing as one size fits all.
10lbs at 350g of carbs... And I weigh 105 lbs now! Did no sustained cardio, just weight training. The longest cardio I did was probably 4 minutes on a treadmill during an exercise class, I couldn't say "no" haha...
fat loss didn't exist before keto
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Hahaahahahheuhuehuehuehuehuehuehuehohohohohhohahahahahaha. How do you tell if someone is on keto and CrossFit? You don't. They'll themselves tell you.
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Unfortunately, years ago, Fung was my first introduction to weight loss books. I spent far too long trying to reconcile his BS with reality, and I couldn't understand why every other nutrition, fitness, and diet book/source I read afterwards stated the complete opposite of Fung's "Obesity Code." Once I finally started searching around for arguments that directly countered Fung, everything made sense for me and I was able to use actual information to improve all aspects of my health (especially my diet and eating habits). To put that anti-carb brainworm to rest, I did the "potato hack" for a week, eating 2.5 kilos of gold potatoes per day (over 400gm carbs per day), and I ended the week about 3kg lighter.
I've now been doing weighted calisthenics and eating low-fat, high-carb, high-fiber for years now, and I am satisfied with my understanding of resistance training and healthy eating. On the scale, I am currently back at the weight I was desperate to lose many years ago when I first found Fung's book, except that I had lost 12kg and then gained it all back as muscle through resistance training and eating the diet I mentioned. No thanks at all to Jason Fung, of course. Never trust a dude that tells you legumes will make you fat.
Hahaha love this. I also don't trust anyone who says ANYTHING specific makes me fat unless it has to do with CICO.
100% agree!
I find it strange that all these pro-keto doctors keep on going about how fruits can also make you fat. Why are most vegans and fruitarians so skinny???
Beef and beans chili for life 😂😅.
Dr Berry said that too (on a live stream) and tons of people agreed. So annoying.
Lost 22 pounds in 6 months eating rice and rice based foods ( I am South Indian ) three times a day . I was satiated and didn’t feel like I am starving . I walked 8 kms a day and did 45 mins hitt ( cardio plus weight training alternate days ) . I used to take Fung seriously sometime back
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I was following Fung for a while desperate to lose weight. Fasting for 24-48 hours at a time while training for a marathon and they’d keep telling me it’s fine your getting fat adapted your body has lots of fat stored as fuel - well I’m not dead and it didn’t kill me but my performance sucked and I felt like absolute crap and like I was going to die!
Fasting + training for a marathon is what you did wrong. Training is catabolic - you need to eat to recover and improve. I made the same mistake for too long lol, and now only intermittently fast about 2 times a week, on non-training days. If you fast too much your training will stall.
@@rayf7953 still I was sold on the magical effects of fasting. There are none. It’s all calories in - calories out.
DUH
Were you training in heart rate zone 2 for your marathon? I can cycle in zone 2 for hours while fasting and still feel fantastic
If you're training in zone 3 or above--which means you're working at an intensity where your mitochondria can no longer meet your energy production needs--then you're going to need glucose to perform well and not feel like "absolute crap"
This is a case of user error.
Layne I just wanna say I really appreciate what you do and I think it’s very commendable.
The past few years for me have honestly been hell lol from having an emergency surgery and being diagnosed w dysautonomia to developing an eating disorder, so much of that I believe was directly caused by listening to the nutrition bs that’s out there. Had I come across your content earlier I probably could’ve avoided it all together.
It’s sickening how people try to scare and manipulate people into food rules and dogma. There needs to be more people like you calling it out.
Keep doing what you’re doing!
Hey Matt, my name is Sarah. I have a very similar story as well. I don't have dysautonamia but I have many physical health and mental health problems too. I fell victim to diet culture as well. Dont beat yourself up for falling for them. We all did during covid. We are all now trying to find balance, whatever that means for each of us.
Take care and eat balanced.
Fung and Berry have set a lot of people back. Decades or forever. They will never lose an ounce and always wonder why.
Funny how I’ve lost 20lb so far in this cut while eating probably 35-40% of my diet as carbs. I must be crazy and mistaken though.
Whoever claims calories don't matter has no common sense and also skipped school when we were learning about the laws of thermodynamics.
I lost 100 pounds of weight by ensuring a calorie deficit and a strict exercise regime. I consumed chicken, broccoli, carrots, beef, bacon, bread, and gin and tonic. My diet had lots of fat, protein and some carbs. Most people don't need to fast or go keto or carnivore. There will be some people that need very restricted diets, but not many
Does anyone think Ken Berry is the worst with his all you can eat beef, bacon, butter and eggs diet? It just blows my mind
If he added “… if you’re over 300 lbs”. His advice is not great when you’re in a normal BMI range.
Yes he is obviously intellectually challenged and his followers. Same as all these carnivore keto guys. If you try to have a debate with them you quickly realise their brains aren’t functioning right and it’s better to leave them be
Thank you once again for being my only lifeline to nutritional sanity while I once again went down a nutritional cult rabbit hole with these quacks for 9 months.
Same 😂
ditto
Right?! Every time I almost fall for one of these snake oil salesmen I rewatch videos about the guy who went on the twinkie diet and lost a bunch of weight and improved all his biomarkers.
If you think Dr fung is a quack and layne Norton actually knows what the fuck he's on about then I feel sorry for you.
Me too.
I don't know what carbs are, I guess. I thought I was eating 200-300g a day while I was losing weight...but I guess I wasn't.
I lose fat for competition levels in 18 weeks. For the first time in 2021 my diet was between 55% to 60% of carbs EVERY DAYS...NO depletion ... My best pre contest ever in 9 years... And i have the best conditioning on the stage in the 4 shows... Low carb never...
cool!
“If you’re constantly burning carbs…”
Which would be really hard to do if you expend more than you consume.
How does he explain all the countries that eat like 90% of. There calories from carbs or the lack of obesity in japan
Bingo
I followed the meat centric high fat no or low-carb diet (keto, whatever). It does work to a point in that food heavy in saturated fat is satiating so lower calorie intake..but when I had my cholesterol checked and it was 535, my Dr told me to knock it off. I know these people say that blood cholesterol doesn't matter, but my Dr does, and I just have to take his word for it. Ever since I went back to basic CICO with carbs, I continue to lose, feel much better, skin cleared up, and realize that diet fads are nothing new.
I lost 20 pounds after college while eating 250 grams of non veggie carbs a day... Went from 210 to 190
If I understood correctly the correlation in that graph could be as simple as people that eat too many calories, also eat higher ratio of carbs because they drink for example soda or the kind of extra calories people usually drop first when they go on a diet. It's not the carbs that is the actual problem, but the ratio happens to be higher with people typically over eating.
I lost 80 plus pounds while eating sufficient carbs. Fung is out to lunch.
I am 59, carry less than 9% body fat, am not yet on any HRT (will when I am told I need to), and eat tons of carbs that I log into MyFitnessPal (free version) every day. It's all about that EB, yo! BTW, brown is your color, my friend. Earth tones for the win!
Can you put a link to the video that you explain "can't lose fat because you're eating carbs" thing?
If you undereat the amount of calories your body requires to function on you will loose weight, no matter what diet. But quality of food does matter, as does physical activity.
I’m quite active, so even dieting my calories are pretty high.
Tail end of my last fat loss phase I was on 375g carbs a day 😂
I went from 115 to 105 lbs on 350g carbs and 1800 calories a day. I lifted weights, did not do any cardio longer than 4 minutes (not by design, just by preference, laziness, and heat wave).
Lost about 30kgs...have kept it off since 9 years...Never went a day without carbs...
I really appreciate what you do!!!!!
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Wait so where are are these doctors getting their degrees?
in 2023 I still get people forwarding me his shit!! They think he's some holy guru saviour. The carb - insulin model is so outdated and debunked.
I'll never understand why those colleges don't strip those quacks of their doctor titles.
In 2007, I lost 40 lbs. the entire time, I kept these macros: 60% carbs, 26% protein, 15% carbs. I kept my calories between 1400-1800 per day. I ran 5x a week (2-6 miles each time) and strength trained 3-4x a week.
15% fat?
Thats 75% carbs.
So many carbs they took up two whole categories!
How do people believe an obese person about losing fat I don’t get it
Lost 2 lbs in a week eating bread, fruits, milk, legumes, basically the same stuff as always just less, lol.
People are overweight due to years of eating too much. But why are they eating too much. Dr Fung has changed my life by learning about fasting and what I was eating and when and focusing on the why.
I can't stop watching your videos. Science, science, I love the science!
I trust that dr layne is telling the truth. Something that bothers me is that people like Jason fungus is trying to convince us that eating low carb which is almost impossible to stick to is the answer. I agree that people like me tend to eat carbs that are full of sugar which is messing us up. But eating nutritious food that is prepared in a delicious way will help us lose weight
Jason Fungus have brought to diets what Dr. Phil has brought to therapy. 😂
That's funny because I've been this bodyfat for over 23 years, even back in 2008 when I was doing the typical bodybuilding diet and eating over 300g of carbs per day. I've also been my fattest by only eating meat, when the amount of meat I was consuming was more than the amount of meat that my body required. It's almost as though you can lose fat by eating carbs in a deficit and gain fat by eating meat in a surplus...
It is fair to mention that it wasn’t “meat” specifically it was the calorie dense foods.
I would guess fattier cuts of meat.
I feel my best when eating protein and fiber everyday, aka protein is meat for me.
I just don’t eat excessive amounts of meat is all, as I’m an omnivore.
Great video 🎉
Welcome back Dr. Fung
Lol ironically I managed to lose 25lb following Jason Fung's OMAD and carb thing in 2021.... Then I decided I wanted to be a bodybuilder in late 2021.. and I realized that a good portion of the "weight" I lost was actually (to my horror) muscle. Yeahhhh.
This is also my experience. I’ve found that whenever I bulk i build muscle that I can see but mysteriously whenever I cut using interment fasting I’ll always lose my muscles and never been able to lose the belly when I reach a certain point. That got me confused a lot
First video I’ve ever watched of yours and I like you already 🤩
They even asked him about his asian ancestry consuming mostly starches like rice and noodles.
He just wants to keep selling books based on his nonsense. Thank again for keeping us truly informed…guys like Dr. F and the others will keep people so confused
You can burn both in the same day. Otherwise it would mean every physique athlete would only do Keto. Can Jason even bench 135 for 2?
A Lumen ad played immediately after this video for me...what timing.
I seemed to lose weight just fine in 10th grade when I decided to eat nothing but a mountain dew all day & a bowl of vegetables for dinner for 9 months! all carbs 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
If sugars are only converted to fats in very small amounts, what happens to excess dietary carbs (above and beyond what's possible via glycogen storage)?
I eat about 150 to 250 gram of carbs (bread included) and I lose about half a kilo to a kilo, 1 to 2 pounds a week while my strength stays the same, so carbs don't make you fat if you eat in a caloric deficit. Oh and I'm a prediabetic.
There was a very small study that a macro of 50% Carbs, 35% Protein, and 15% Fat helped participants lose 10.5lbs of fat and gain 2.5lbs of muscle. I ate more than that and lost a ton of weight. Not body shaming, but Jason doesn't look too fit and sounds like he is trying to sell his device.
Im diabetic… for me… it is very hard for me to stick to a high carb n super low fat diet… so i am on low carb high protein now… easier for me to lower weight n maintain lower weight…
Ps i respect both Layne n Jason. I acknowledge both of their contributions to nutrition…
I cannot believe I did not find this channel until now. Came here from Andrew Huberman BTW. This is kind of information I need after going thru hell with Carnivore and Keto diets in the past few weeks.
I've eaten low carb, keto, and even carnivore for a short time. It's hard to over consume meat. It's easy to over consume fake foods. Not all carbs are fake food. Fat is ok and carbs are ok. The take away for me was to eat real food and to not over consume. Lastly, it is more complicated than calories in/calories out. However, if exercise does not increase calorie burn, then how is it that just sitting all day tends to lead to weight gain??
Calories in calories out. Eat whatever you want it won’t change the equation
People can't lose fat eating carbs...except for the millions of people that do.
The type of people that tends to agree with these approach are also the kind of people who struggles the most losing fat... I wonder why
They are the 99% who don’t regularly exercise, and have developed what’s called metabolic syndrome over a 3-4 decade life span. Their systems are so malfunctional and they eat so many carbs without exercise that they cannot offset the incredible glucose spikes to the blood and their insulin is constantly elevated trying to clear the blood of glucose. Chronic insulin elevation locks up body fat.
It gets so bad that if they don’t eat every two hours for a fresh hit of glucose that their bodies are literarily starving despite the massive amounts of fat stored.
Only way to bust through that illness is to avoid carbs and introduce long fasting windows to allow your system to start to repair its normal metabolic functions.
Can someone give url to this studies about 2% of carbs turns into body fat?
I honestly think an educational video or series explaining and connecting respiratory quotient, C02, doubly labeled water, fat oxidation, and weight loss is going to be extremely beneficial for this community. These concepts appear in countless studies and it seems no one, including possibly Dr. Jason Fung and commenters of this video, has any idea how to properly put these into context.
Someone make the move and give the general population the knowledge they deserve.
What has the ""general population" done to deserve anything ? What makes them entitled to the knowledge they wouldn't understand anyway? Most people can't even understand the most basic laws of physics. Losing weight for an example is based on the simplest principle, you take in less energy than your body is using. It can't get any simpler. Why overcomplicate it?
If you sprinkle doubly labeled water on Jason Fung's forehead, it will sizzle.
@@elduderino1329 I think the issue isn't in regards to the definition of energy balance or its complexity (although there are quacks who will argue with this claim and Layne courageously battles these quacks in hopes of reducing the amount of misinformation that floats around online).
I think the issue is that humans and human behavior is complex, nuanced, and over-complicated. Simply educating a human being on energy balance is not nearly enough to get them to be able to lose weight. Every one of us is different and something that works for someone may very well not work for another person and it may or may not have anything to do with the absolute validity of the method or the genetic variance of the two people at all.
Nutrition is muddy because there is no objectively right way of doing something. Every single human has slightly different requirements and most people don't have the knowledge, resources, money, time, or motivation to even figure out what their requirements are. The result of this is people blindly following others and either bumping their heads against a brick wall for a very long time or finding a path that they think works for them and makes them happy.
I tried Lumen and returned it because it was completely worthless for me. I did an RMR test (as well as a VO2 and DEXA Scan) and it was so much more revealing. I was undereating by about 500 calories so I'm glad I now have that data plus the Carbon Diet Coach to help me lose the last little bit of fat over the next few months.
I love that I’m watching you say that Lumen is essentially pointless and there’s an ad for Lumen underneath the player. It’s like they know their product is shit and don’t give a fuck.
Layne, if less than 2% of what i eat as carbohydrate winds up as addipose tissue fat, and it is mostly fat that lands there, that would mean if I ate 5000 kcal more than i burn per day and only eat pure sugar, or starch I only gain 100 kcal in bodyfat stores per day right? So since a kg of bodyfat is estimated to be around 7000 kcal of energy roughly it would take me 2 whole month to accrue 1 KG of additional body fat. Are you sure this is how it works? I mean if this is the science I guess overeating by massive amounts is hardly a problem as long as you go pure carb then...asking for a friend here.
I've said it before but I swear to God, the people that peddle this BS and the ones that believe it have clearly never known even a lean high school athlete in their lives... Certainly not followed them around while they eat. When I was the leanest I've ever been and you could trace veins All through my stomach and obliques, I ate over 400 g of carbs a day. Hardly unique in that way
I got a lumen ad lol
I did a Keto diet and lost 40 lbs. I gained it all back and then some. Then I ate a BALANCED diet, including carbs, and lost 100 lbs. 🤯🤯🤯
I am super fit and i eat 400gr of carba daily. It fits in my total calories so no issues there and carbs are insulin releasing so very muscle building and muscle sparing and start MPS with mtor
I have spent a lot of time in both camps to end up with essentially the belief that high carb, low fat is best for most athletes. You also gain the advantage of a "buffer" on high carb low fat in the form of muscle glycogen. My understanding is that low carb people store less glucose in the muscles (due to demand driven concept of gluconeogenesis) so you are almost always running on a "just barely sufficient level of glycogen" in the liver and the muscles. It is also my understanding that no one completely ceases to burn fat. So if fat intake is low enough, any net fat gain would have to be a result from the conversion of lipolysis from the excess carbs, whatever those may be. I definitely believe in CICO, ultimately, but I do think at least for me, that eating high carb and low fat allows me not feel like a zombie. Same caloric intake, I perform much better on high carb. I can actually push weights and make PRs. On low carb, I can barely get out of bed. It is a night and day difference. I also think if you exercise a lot, high carb is superior as well due to the carbohydrate sink. Fat oxidation from body fat stores seemingly hits 90% of its output at low intensity, but if you up the intensity, the glucose gets added to the fuel mixture. That said, there was one study that indicated fat oxidation goes down slightly when super high intensity work is done, but it isn't that much (90% vs 75%). So those extra carbs from hard exercise (if not laced with fat) will refill glycogen and not lead to fat gain, which will also allow you to power your next session with proper itensity. Again, I used to buy into the LCHF type stuff, but after going 3+ months MULTIPLE TIMES (I have 15 years, and thus about 15 cycles of both of these "diets"), that I finally came to the conclusion that life is simply not worth living on LCHF. You can't really hit exercise that hard or if you do hit it hard it cannot be done very often, very long, or both. If you like to move and be outside (with more than low intensity), don't go low carb, IMO. If you want to sit in your house in the winter and watch netflix, sure go LCHF and keep calories in check. You will be fine.
😂😂😂 my Dr. might need to run some more test on me then and explain how I’ve lost 170lbs …. Because English muffins with scrambled eggs or protein oats are my breakfast 90% of the time so that can’t be it 😂
This is a great comment for me!
Got me motivated!!!
Any other advice or ideas on losing weight?
Me getting a lumen ad prior to the video 💀
Anybody knows the study Layne refers to that shows less than 2% of CH being converted to fat? Thanks
For last five years all i eat was almost f**g carbs. U know what, i lost weight consistently and i find it difficult to gain any weight.
What shirts do you wear?
@ErikTheElectric would blow his mind
I love when Lumen ads are before these lmao
I remember seeing you explain thos years ago, but here we are again, people don't listen 😑
But if you use that machine and it reports that you never “breathe out fat”, isn’t that an indicator that you’re not in a deficit?
Lumen advertisement right after your show lol
Hi Dr. Layne!
@biolayne1_ /most muscular
Layne wins this argument again! After the point said about rice diet🎤 drop.
Man, don't tell him I lose fat eating white rice. He won't comprehend it, he'll explode.
Edit: carbs sources are cheap, so it doesn't make sense to eliminate it completely, for students that is.
Thank you for always clarifying & putting reliable information out there. These “gimmicky“ people drive me crazy😑 with all the confusion & false information they’re feeding people, especially those who don’t have the exercise science background knowledge 🤦🏽♀️
Good stuff
Totally agree. Even though I like keto I just can’t stand some of the claims from the keto community
I lost 62lbs this past yr eating at least 200 grams of carbs a day. Closer to 300.
I hardly ever remark to videos because negative comments are for trolls...however I adore Dr Fung...have followed almost every single word that he has said and he does Not say that you have to not eat carbs to lose weight. His whole premise is intermittent fasting which he can be quoted saying you can do it with ANY diet of your preference.
He has said fasting is easier when you lower your carbs...
He has helped so many people...myself included...and incorrectly representing him my keep someone else from being helped by his life saving messages.
Please, please, please 🙏be careful when you are speaking for another!
Well, the point is when you use more fat in your diet, it brings more satiety thereby eating less, which is the opposite site of a high-carb diet!
Funny, I eat tons of carbs and I've lost nearly a stone in weight
Would you post the citation? TIA!
"And she'll have fung fung fung 'til her daddy takes the carbs away" - New Single from the Al Gore Rhythm band.
, even Weight Watchers? Who advise balanced diets with adequate protein 🤔 There's thousands of success stories
Fasting and low carb are not for everybody. But those who are sick with type 2 diabetes can have their disease reverse through low carb and intermittent fasting. Many people including myself can testify that is true! When you are diabetic and have poor metabolic health, your body has difficulty burning fat and you are insulin resistant ( your cells are unable to take up any more glucose from your food and more blood sugar is staying in your bloodstream and this causes a lot of health issues). If you’re metabolically healthy, and you are able to burn all the carbs that you are taking in, then you should be fine.
I've never lost weight as much or as quickly as I did on the high-carbohydrate/very low-fat Pritikin diet, which I adopted in the 1980s on my own initiative. In a matter of weeks I went from embarrassingly paunchy to so thin that the physician who was treating me for familial hypercholesterolemia (Type IIa hyperlipidemia) referred to me (she did have a rather tart sense of humor) in conversation with my wife as Ichabod Crane. (My diet was so excessively devoid of fats that my physician eventually urged my wife to put some back into my meals to bring my HDLs back up.) I knew Fung had to be full of shit!
Guess I'm a miracle too then, losing 25kg on a moderate to high carb, low fat diet 🤷🏻♀