F1 Japan Ayrton Senna Pole Lap
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Ayrton Senna Awesome Pole lap in japan 1990
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Even R Dennis was like, "Damn..." lol
That Honda V10 is a great example of what an F1 engine should sound like.
V12!
It's was a V10 in 1990. Got the V12 the following year.
My favorite.
Well said mate
Nowadays they still homage Senna with 1989 Japanese GP pole lap.
man I love that shot at 1:39, senna's in the cockpit like "easy.."
Half second taken in the last S. In there breack was umbilivable....
Senna always was much better than cheater Schumacher
Schumacher was a replacement.if senna didnt died in 94, he would become champion
Tell me you didn't feel a flutter when he went through 130r
Even back then they pretty much took it flat out (with perhaps just a slight lift..). Of course, just as with the old Tamburello, if something went wrong they were fucked at those speeds.
The Most beautiful cars in F1. I miss this ära
RIP senna🏎️🏁
@Anime998877 So I am off by one pole I guess of the top of my head. Senna got one pole in 1993 and won 5 races. Senna got 1 Pole in 1987 and drove a car that was trying to develope an active suspension system that robbed the engine of power to drive the belts and weight...and he finished 3 in the title hunt and should have been 2 if not for a DSQ. And he won 2 races and kept in close contact with the Williams. Its the distance behind Senna I am talking about. To me he is real close to Nigel
There is no doubt that the mclaren's advantage to ferrari was huge. They had more wins, WAY more poles, more fastest laps, more 1-2 finishes, and they won races by absolute miles as I mentioned below. And yes I agree that Senna would have won the title in 1998 against the mclaren drivers, but that is irrelevant to this argument. Hakkinen is nowhere near Schumacher.
@arturcraft2 Remember, we were talking about a twenty tonne concrete block here, but he was so insistent that he persuaded me to walk round the circuit and take a look.
"When I did so, the wall had indeed moved ? somebody had clearly clipped the previous block and in doing so, displaced the next one by only about 4cm. Instead of the transition from block to block being smooth, a 4cm difference had caught the rear wheel, broken it and punctured the tyre."
@connected1914 Mansell had the most technologically advanced F1 car of all time, which was seconds faster than the rest of the field. Also, Mansell did not leave for three years before 1992.
Is that Ichiro Furutachi doing the commentary? Legend.
Brundle can have his personal opinion, but you're making it sound like he knew both Senna and Schumacher so well. He only competed against Senna, not spend time with him outside the track. He got more of an insight on Schumacher because of working with him as a teammate, but he had no such reference points for Senna. Considering all that, it's obvious why he'd be more impressed by Schumacher. Those who want to listen to Brundle instead of forming up their own opinion, go ahead. :)
@arturcraft2 Another point, because I know a lot this period and most of Schum fans do not : they give me Monaco as an exemple of Schum supposedly best perf than Senna . Senna was on a non stop strategy and tis is the reason that Prost and Schum where bombarding. Senna finaly stopped during the race, because of security. Despite his crash in Thursday, and lack of laps, injured, Saturday he was about to beat Prost on qualifying. If you just look at final results you ignore that.
@arturcraft2 And I never said that Schuey never had problems during the season . For instance, his problems at Montreal or Spa at the start due to the launch control.or his probable second place loose at Monaco . His 2nd place obtained at Imola, Montreal, 3rd at Magny-Cours etc..obtained on MP4/8 reliability problems
I cry like i had lost a son, and few months later i lost my only son!
@arturcraft2 By the way, Rory Byrne design ( which for you knowledge is a huge improvement of Migeot & Postlethwaite concept) was then adopted by everyone : high cone nose, giving less Cx and more downforce grip ! Since Mclaren loose Gordon Murray and Nichols, aerodynamics was not their best! Especially it was taking more and more importance. Just look at the difference between the MP4/12 and the Mp4/13(Newey) to catch the point.
and he never will, senna was one of a kind
@Anime998877 Guys are comming out of the Box hard. All great drivers do, Senna Schuemacher,,Prost didn't putt putt around their first 2 seasons. You want to be a beast...do what the best do. Senna was something to be rekoned with immediately and So was Schuemacher. I give him number 3 and that is generous. I have a hard time believing that he could have done a better Job than Mansel if given the same opportunity.
@celpabedn more titles? do you remember how utterly superior that 2000 - 2004 ferrari car was? lol, senna was beating williams cars even when they had the ultimate driving aid, active suspension. Im not saying mclaren werent a great team but winning a race with a Tolemon car was like climbing everest in a t-shirt...
You obviously haven't seen what Senna fans do to defend their god, or you'd be ashamed to be one of them.
@dalebshelton
Again. It doesn't matter because most of his rivals had vastly superior cars and he still won against them!
@celpabedn yep sure its the age thats holding him back...
@MrKwameR
All is relative, my point was that the McLaren was not a front runner that year. Yes, Senna managed to pull off some results with it - even a few wins. That does not change the fact that the car was not competitive and it was unreliable (look also at Berger's number of breakdowns).
But nice try. Particularly dodging 90% of my post :)
I would suggest you think real hard next time before you call someone stupid. It may blow up in your face.
Suzuka 1990...
@NOXXism how about moving all walls very far from the corners?
@GTAGIS Yes, I already have those videos. They are very famous.
@mallamoozoo MS won 3 races without Ross Brawn behind him. Senna won with so many different people behind him, different engineers. This idea that MS built Ferrari into a winner makes me laugh. No one built Ferrari. They were already buit. They had the pieces in Place, they never had to worry about a big sponor deal, they never had to worry about engine deal...and everyone wanted to work for Ferrari...MS was just a piece of the Puzzle and eventually he was eventually let go.
Wow, the MP4/5B looks gorgeous in that Japanese sunlight. Everytime I watch videos like this I remember why I fell in love with motorsports. If only today's motorsports would be as great.
That's why the flag of Japan is just a simple white flag with a red circle on it...
Such a beautiful lap, like he never lost any speed.
His way of driving is totally different from the others.
That lap simply brought tears to my eyes.
Back when Ron Dennis actually had the ability to smile!
ability or reason ? ;)
And he had a good damn reason to smile 😌
@@483972 ability. Lol.
Perfection! Just look at his entry and exit through the corners... Just brilliant
Senna is the all-time master of the insane banzai qualifying lap, in 161 starts he top qualified 65 times with cars that would be qualifying tuned to 1500+ peak horsepower and a manual shifted transmission, insane.
0:32 Amazing, in the Degner Curve, Senna is going with 280 km in second, slowdown to 200 km.
Ayrton Senna the best. We miss you Ayrton....
0:00 wtf bullet !
Whilst the debate about Senna being the greatest driver will go on forever, I think nearly all can agree that Senna was probably the greatest qualifying driver F1 has ever seen.
They might be saying: " wat a banzai lap by Senna!"
il più grande di tutti.. ci lasciava ogni volta con la bocca aperta.. e sottolineo ogni volta.. in qualifica poi non ne paliamo , 65 pole su 161 GP, un'ira di Dio, era quasi come se riuscisse a fermare il tempo e tutta l'attenzione si catapultava in un istante su di lui.. mai più visto nulla di simile.. ha lasciato un vuoto mai più colmato.. ancora grazie Ayrton..
Superb... I wish if I could watch that lap at Suzuka circuit.
I miss senna saturdays!
@arturcraft2 There was also another amazing story that happened with Ayrton, if I am correct in 1993. Senna was complaining about an engine, and said that something was wrong and gave an expected estimation of laps where the engine would expire. engineers found nothing on telemetry and Senna still insisting. Finally, Ron Dennis gave the order : change that engine, so Senna would be in good psychological mood. Finally, Senna was correct when they tested that engine back in England
@wandererslegion
NO ONE had a driver like this since then.
The only session these 2.2m-wide behemoths were fit for was qualifying. Actual racing and battling prior to 1998 was extremely overrated. Thank god for those rule changes
Como era bom os domingos
As Senna himself said "being quick as never been a problem"
I have chills watching this. He was a legend and phenomenal talent. The best in the world, simply the best.
God rest his soul. X
@mallamoozoo
Remember that when Senna became Prost's team mate in McLaren, Prost had 28 overall wins which made him the most successful driver of all time in F1. Prost was one of the all time greats, that Senna beat him in the same car speaks volumes.
Mansell had Piquet as team mate, who was already a two time champion.
Interestingly enough none of Schumacher's team mates had even won a race when becoming his team mate.
How the hell did he gain half a second in the final sector alone? That McLaren-Honda must've been one hell of a car down the straights.
He was able to gain a lot of time in that one chicane because his entry and exit out of those two corners was perfect. He was able to get on the power earlier because he wasn't as aggressive over the second curve than he was over the first. Had he been aggressive over the second curve, his speed down the straight would have been compromised. The Honda V10 engine, with the Renault V10 engine were the two most powerful and efficient engines in F1 at the time, but none of the other drivers made as much use of that power as Senna did.
He gained those 5 tenths of a second over his own last lap (pay attention and you'll notice the names on the screen), so it has nothing to do with the engine. Just as hmdwgf stated ,the way he cleared that last chicane is what made the difference between those two laps.
masamuneidkyriou
credo che l'entrata alla curva 130 r,prima delle schicane casio,sia determinante....300 km/h a quei tempi sono da pazzi
Jacopo Pomponi To gain 5 tenths of a second in the third sector over his own lap only by clearing the 130r is not logical. Yes, he can have gained a little over there, but he made the real difference by clearing the last chicane perfectly.
coz he killed the last chicane. no one else did it better.
🔥🔥🔥🔥
🏁🏁🏁it's a real pleasure to watch🏎️🏎️🏎️
1:42
👇👇👇
@mallamoozoo You Put Ayrton Senna in a Ferrari that goes 39 races without a mechanical Failure. How many times would he captitalize. You put Ayrton Senna in Jerez with a 4 point lead on Villinueve..do you think he would even get along side? You put Senna in Japan with a chance to win against Hakkinen and you know that the result. You put Ayrton Senna in a Ferarri in 2005 that is just slightly slower than the Renault and Mclaren...he would pull off more 0 wins head to head. Thats Senna.
@mallamoozoo
That is an absolutely absurd comment. Mansell's 92 williams had a 2 second advantage to every other car. The ferraris from 00-04 had nowhere near that advantage.
Indeed, look how many years passed since then, and no Mclaren drivers emulated their talent...if we could say one got close, perhaps only Mika Hakkinen
SENNA O MELHOR DE TODOS OS TEMPOS
The Lotus was not at all inferior... it was one of the fastest cars on the track but it had reliability problems. And the McLaren was the best car on the grid when he was driving for them until around the end of 1991.
The king!!
So fast video doesn't do uustice
@arturcraft2 There are little onboard vids of Senna compare to what we can find in this f1 era.You can type AYRTON SENNA ONBOARD AT MONACO WITH LOTUS-HONDA'87. Please take attention at the wheels and the rail at the swimming pool. there also the flying lap at Jerez 90, Senna going 1 second faster than his prior time after the accident of Donnely and passing 2 slow cars by 190kmh difference according to Senna estimation. "Ayrton Senna Jerez 90 Qualy"
Come to think about it, at those days Dennis even laughed once in a while, i remember when he threw a bucket of water at senna on the podium. After his death, Dennis became a completely different man, i know what it was, i know what it is like to lose one best friend... :(
Good old time when mclaren kicked some asses
@joseavs I don't think most people grasp what a Phenomenon Ayrton Senna really was just the car control alone was out of this world and in the wet no one could touch him I guess there is something to be said about prayer and a persons faith in God.
Pumping the gas mid corner thats what he did to be so fast just compare this to arlin prost and you see how fast he really was
Increible, es el mejor
Today's drivers would end a lap many seconds behind Ayrton's era drivers, were they to drive those cars in those conditions. Just saying
The commentator is awesome.
Reserved and dignified in the beginning, then Senna's magic has him screaming like a kid by the end of the lap!
Anyone have a translation?
𝓚𝓸𝓵𝓸𝓶😅,
ꋊꃳ꒐ꄲ.😊ꋊꃳ꒐ꄲ llok o uu ttugb n uji coba😮 ihwt
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Rodriguez Patricia Hernandez Matthew Martin George
Zero respect for the engine or fuel consumption, just extreme abuse. Excellent
1:12 that image of him going flat out about 24 years ago is just something... Sempre Senna.
Wonder why were those cars that much slower than current F1 cars... they had comparable engines.... and they don't look like they had more drag.
Eddie Irvine wasn't that bad, he only finished a few points off Coulthard in the end.. And 70 wins??? Schumi only got 48 from 2000-2004.... If Hakkinen was in ferrari in those years he probably would have won 3 titles. And once again the 1998 mclaren wasn't marginally better, it was dominant. Schumacher couldn't find a pole until the last few races of the season, and Coulthard outqualified Schumi in almost every race as well by a considerable margin...
Nonsense. Were you around in 1998? Hakkinen nearly loses the title in one of the most dominant cars in F1 history.The mclaren was the best car in 1998 by MILES. They lapped the ENTIRE field in the in the Australian grand prix, won by 60 seconds in brazil, 50 seconds in spain, 40 seconds in Monaco, not to mention how many times they locked out the front row! Schumi in that mclaren, would have been frighteningly dominant, and it annoys me when people rank Hakkinen near him - he isn't!
@dalebshelton
No he didn't, Schumacher got 1 pole in 2005, that's how shit the ferrari was. You say Senna found a way in 92-93, well Schumi found a way in 96-97. And the 2005 ferrari was just as bad as the 92-93 mclarens for sure. Gerhard Berger actually took victory in 92, Barrichello took nothing in 05. And the 93 mclaren was described by Senna as a good car to drive, it just had an underpowered engine compared to the renault.
@dalebshelton
Err so what if his main rival was Hakkinen? He fought against Hill and Villeneuve who were in superior cars and he beat Hill in 94-95, and almost beat Villeneuve in 97. Mika had a better car in 98, in 99 schumi broke his leg. In 2000 the mclaren was definitely faster, and you're right about the unreliability but Schumi had 2 mechanical failures and Hakkinen had 3. Not much of a difference. However Schumi was punted off in 2 races which cost him, still won the championship though.
@dalebshelton
So? In 1994 and 1995 they were never championship winning cars. Suddenly Schumi comes in at 1996, he scores 4 poles and 3 wins for ferrari. And in 1997 on they were championship contenders. Certainly Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne also had something to do with that, but to say Schumi did nothing to ferrari is absolutely ridiculous.
And for fuck's sake I consider Senna to be the best driver ever - but I am sick of all his fanboys finding ridiculous excuses to undermine MS!
@dalebshelton
How the hell do you consider the ferrari to be the best car of 1998? They had 9 fucking wins to ferrari's 6 which were all won by Schumi. They had more 1-2s, more fastest laps AND They won races by absolute miles, in Australia both mclaren's lapped the field THE ENTIRE FIELD, in Brazil they won by 60 fucking seconds! In Imola they won by 50! In spain by 50! In monaco by 40! And so on! Schumi was incredible in 98 to almost win the title.
@dalebshelton
Once again. Stupid comment. Perhaps Schumi never had good team mates. But he had very, very strong rivals. Especially Hakkinen, but the difference is Hakkinen had the best car in almost every year. Look how dominant the mclaren was in 98, yet Schumi nearly wins the title. In 99 no doubt Schumi would have won if not for the bad luck he sustained and also a leg injury...
@dalebshelton
What an absolutely ridiculous comment. Irvine nearly won 1999 because he had 4 inherited wins, and Hakkinen had 3 mechanical failures WHILE LEADING. Ferrari were pathetic without Schuey, no world championships in 20 years and not even close to world championships in 10-15. Yet Schumi takes 3rd in the champ in his debut with ferrari and nearly wins the 97-98 titles and in 99 he broke his leg. In 07-08 they also had Schumi's input - remember all the testing he did for them!?!?
Nearly Half a second in the last sector alone!!
Fucking brilliant
@dalebshelton
The 2005 ferrari was just terrible. You only need to look at Barrichello's results to know. They weren't close enough to Mclaren and Renault all season as you say and sometimes found themselves battling with toyotas. If you expect Schumi to win in those circumstances - WOW.
in 92 Senna had a powerful V12 but an under par chassis, schumacher had a less powerful V8 but arguebly a better chassis. in 93 i think the macca and the benetton were pretty even giving senna the slight edge due to 5 wins verse 1. the schumacher of 97 - 06 would have given Senna a run atleast though.
beautiful :o
Berger Im Ferrari 412 T2 V12 1995
1.39.400 da Kann man sehen wie genial Senna damals schon war
roflmao, you're using brundle as a reference point :O i respect schumacher but some of his fans go to such silly extents when trying to defend him, it gets ridiculous!
@arturcraft2 i used to have many vids of F1 and between us, I do enjoy more watching old F1 than the homosexualised stuff that progressively appeared when Lords of driving finally disappeared. Although I do like some of the drivers of today, there is a trend without any moral opposition that made the F1 to much easy : flat kerbs, easy corners/circuits, stupid technical and sportive rules, large asphalt runways , anti stalling systems , very difficult to retire on a mistake
@GTAGIS wreckes on his side pod? nice one. I would keep this on the bag and use when needed. Schumacher can also make excuses because his fastest lap was very early and traffic didn' allow him to improve that time when the track was faster like Senna and the Williamses did. If Senna is so damn fast, why he and Hakkinen were almost on the same quaifying pace in Estoril and Suzuka. Why couldn't the magic man, "fastest driver ever" put a gap to Mika? What were the problems Senna had there?
@GTAGIS If you ever read about car aero books, you would know that low noses are always the best. Other types of noses would only be better options under some regulation restrictions. FYI, Byrne is not even an aero guy. He's usually refered as a designer but that's vague because he doesn't interfeer in the aerodynamics department. If Mclaren had inferior aero than Bennetton than they made magic in Suzuka because Hakkinen and Senna were some 3/4 tenths faster than Benneton there
@arturcraft2 At Magny-Cours, it is also obvious. Schuey passing Senna at the acceleration on the straight, Senna having problems like he had loose 1st gear and have therefore slow acceleration. Andretti qualifying very bad , and during private testing on Monday at the same place, like having a different car and setting very good time. etc..on contrary to you, I can give things, which prove that I have searched and not just stopped on raw results.
@arturcraft2 You want Mika Hakineen about Silverstone ? he could not, neither him or the team, explain what happens with the car. Just tap on youtube "F1 British GP 1993 Mika Hakkinen Interview" by the way, have you seen the huge difference between benetton and McLaren ?have you seen the difference between the flaps? Senna complaining about huge problems of balance. At this point, this is obvious for any one who really knows F1(not like you) that this is a car problem
@arturcraft2 By the way, I gave you so much information, that your answers proves that you are not intellectually honest. At Spa, where the aero of benetton was far beter that the MP4/8, Senna had wreckes on his side pod radiator which made him loose power during qualifying. on the race, he loose pace with hydraulics problems.
How did I also know about the front right suspension at Barcelone ?because I am searching (not like you, just watching ...)
@arturcraft2 You may have these sessions and be blind and deaf. And not looking to search what can help you to analyse what you haven't understood by just watching. Senna, Andretti have explained these problems of suspensions, which, on bums or kerbs, wheen occured, put the car impossible to drive. The reason of the crash of Senna at Ste Devote (in the straight !) crashes of Andretti & Senna at the Chicane du Port, at the last Chicane of Imola or Variante Alta for Senna
@GTAGIS I had great time reading your comments. You live in phantasy world. Your making excuses all the time but I have those sessions and Senna had no problem at all in almost all of them. The "would haves" are quite pathetic. Schumacher just hammered Senna in the head in Silverstone's and Spa's qualifying. Senna had no car problem, no traffic and no error in his best lap. Also, claiming B-193 was the best aero car made me almost rofl
@arturcraft2 you want exemples ? Monaco, Senna (2) and Andretti crashed, suspension going down at the wrong place ( software problems). Senna was beating the pole time of Prost. Same thing earlier at Imola. Senna lap at Barcelone was done with the front right active suspension out of order.Silverstone : huge problems with a car completely different to the private testing the week before without answer ! etc.. At Kyalami, Monaco, Suzuka, Senna could have done pole without problems
@arturcraft2 of course the MP4/8 was inferior to the B-193 : in term of aerodynamic (Byrne VS Oatley) , in term of chassis etc... Bernard Dudot claimed that Renault Spot has analysed that the best chassis was the B-193 and if it was not the advance in active suspension and the Renault, Williams would not be no1. Mp4/8 was designed lately for the Ford and Senna had during the season an HB-6 VS an HB-7.Then, he had the same engine as Benetton. + Add many active suspension pb for MP4/8
@UltimateWheelman how can you say that Senna has "Fast lap-Slow lap-Fast lap-Slow lap" approach ? What are the bias that made you think that ? have you seen his Japan race of 1988 110% qualifying ? Senna drove most during a time where races have no refuelling and different set of tyres (A,B,C,D).So races where not cut into pieces of races. A F1 starting the race was different at the end with 150 kg less! Being fast at the beginning doesn't mean you were slow at the end.
@rapidtranq
comparing F1 seasons from 1991 (or what have you) and 2011 /Senna and Schumacher is like comparing Bruce Lee and Wladimir Klitschko or a street legal car to an F1 car. It's just impossible. Spin the clock back 20 years it was more about the driver, but today it's just impossible to win without the right material.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Schumacher is better then Senna, nor the other way around - you just can't compare them. And you should accept what Schumi achieved in F1
senna was winning multiple races with inferior cars,even beating williams cars when they had active suspension,michael although a brilliant and fantastic driver,he did not have the genius of senna, michael won his first titles in 94 and 95, senna was by far the favourite to win in 94 and possibly 95,michael then won his next 5 with a car that was easily the best car in formula 1's modern history,it was as reliable as a toyota hilux! dont forget michael idolised senna even when he raced with him