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  • @rnangel69
    @rnangel69 8 месяцев назад +306

    I'm an RN, 15 years, and it was painful to watch how Ryan was treated..he was showing blatant signs of neurological decompensation..it would have been so easy to just bring him to the ER for an evaluation..and by the way I now work in a jail after 15 years in critical care..and treating people with dignity doesn't mean you're "soft" on crime...

    • @commonsense571
      @commonsense571 7 месяцев назад +11

      Thank you❤

    • @Moshka627
      @Moshka627 7 месяцев назад +21

      Years ago, a young college student in my town was at a house party when she fell off a 3rd story deck. She was inebriated, lying in the yard, screaming. The cops came and yanked her up and threw her in a cell overnight, no medical check. She screamed in agony on the floor of that cell all night and the cops would come tell her to shut the F up...all night long this went on, only to discover the next day that her back was broken. She was told she'd never walk again, but she fought and fought and was able to eventually use her legs, albeit with braces on them.

    • @SammehMarley
      @SammehMarley 7 месяцев назад +6

      Sometimes, you gotta try to "speak the language" of the people on the other side, so to speak.
      So if they say it's "soft on crime" to make sure that people receive proper medical care, just remind them that the person can't serve their time if they're dead lmao (Which is definitely an appealing argument for the "I don't support the death penalty because that's letting them off easy" crowd lmfao)

    • @farewelljupiter
      @farewelljupiter 7 месяцев назад +1

      He’d still be dead

    • @Oliviaandtrina
      @Oliviaandtrina 5 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@farewelljupiter do you understand brain bleeds/brain damage at all? Time is absolutely critical. Every minute he's sitting there more of his brain is dying/being damaged. He probably would have survived longer with immediate treatment. He lived for a few years after, so it's pretty clear that when he received medical care DID make a difference.

  • @jenna-leegarrett6542
    @jenna-leegarrett6542 11 месяцев назад +588

    The Ryan Waller case is so infuriating and heartbreaking, I almost turned this off when I saw it was being featured. This poor kid lost his girlfriend, FINALLY got medical care, and eventually succumbed to his injuries which was totally preventable, by all medical accounts. I hope that cop can't live with himself. He deserves no sympathy for his mishandling of this young man's life.

    • @stagger9660
      @stagger9660 11 месяцев назад +64

      The fucked up part is that department probably never looked back on the incident. Any normal and proper place of work would be subject to an investigation, have arrests be made for a wrongful death, and special training done with everyone in the department.

    • @gabehayes1833
      @gabehayes1833 11 месяцев назад +45

      It remains the worst case of police incompetence ever

    • @gabehayes1833
      @gabehayes1833 11 месяцев назад +40

      How is the cop looking at him and not seeing the wound???

    • @jenna-leegarrett6542
      @jenna-leegarrett6542 11 месяцев назад +19

      @@gabehayes1833 Exactly! Gross incompetence is the apt description. It's just heartbreaking.

    • @jenna-leegarrett6542
      @jenna-leegarrett6542 11 месяцев назад +23

      @@stagger9660 That's right. I'd be very surprised if that department did anything but lament how unfair it was that the cop was fired because suspects lie every day. Umm.... he was CLEARLY wounded, CLEARLY unintelligible, and incoherent during most answers. Baseline is to have him checked out before further questioning!

  • @kimlerner389
    @kimlerner389 7 месяцев назад +53

    As one of the posters said, it's not lack of education, it's lack of empathy. Absolutely despicable.

  • @BirdGang6
    @BirdGang6 Год назад +1646

    You don’t need a medical degree to know that the second guy wasn’t medically fit to answer questions. Knowing that this kid lost his life due to this is disgusting

    • @Sv5YpWTwd9otTA4So83f
      @Sv5YpWTwd9otTA4So83f Год назад

      This is absolute nonsense. Regardless of your education, if you're working with criminals every day, even relatively civilised white guys, this guy fits the profile of 'drunk or drugged, just murdered his girlfriend and is sobering up'. Should they have examined his eye more closely? Sure. But 'education' is not the solution.

    • @Nikalette100
      @Nikalette100 Год назад +131

      I worked with a nurse who worked at a jail when a patient was referred to her for evaluation. She had an AA degree. She cleared him to be put in a cell and he died during the night. He was complaining of severe abdominal pain. I suspect his aorta, liver or spleen got a tear. She had very good malpractice insurance and blamed the jailers for beating the guy and not telling her.. Fortunately he was wealthy and his family was able to pursue retribution. The nurse kept her license, the insurance paid, and a man died. Sickening.

    • @Nikalette100
      @Nikalette100 Год назад +158

      The cop for the guy shot in the eye didn’t even do a basic pain assessment. Any pain level above 4 should be referred to an MD. The combination of confusion, sleepiness, and pain should alarm even a civilian.

    • @Ashley__Rose
      @Ashley__Rose Год назад +71

      Omfg I haven’t finished this and didn’t know he died. Thanks for the head’s up. I’m so mortified.

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Год назад +74

      Exactly. This guy was incompetent. A 4 year degree wouldn’t fix that.

  • @penilescab
    @penilescab Год назад +83

    16:10 "I just want to go to sleep" paired with the child-like inflections in his voice like he is just annoyed and genuinely wants to go night-night would immediately make me think they're in medical shock. especially with the obvious head injury. it's unacceptable that they didn't get medical care before interrogation

    • @chrisgraham2327
      @chrisgraham2327 3 месяца назад

      Shit just the simple fact his eye was black should have been enough to get him checked out tbh.

  • @tiffanypitts2668
    @tiffanypitts2668 11 месяцев назад +151

    I have a traumatic brain injury, I've lived with this for 18 years. What the lawyer is saying in this video is absolutely 100% true. It's very frustrating I have to explain myself more than one time.

    • @kariannstickle2708
      @kariannstickle2708 10 месяцев назад +8

      Jesus Christ. It's bad enough to just have ADHD and anxiety. TBIs can give symptoms like those disorders, right? Even worse because it's literal TRAUMA TO THE BRAIN. Explaining your condition to others in general must be aggravating. I had a coworker who survived a TBI and had to take just two classes at a time because it affected her comprehension and memory-building speed. She had accommodations that included someone taking notes for her as just listening and comprehending lectures was enough pressure on her brain. She was a straight A, high achieving person before the TBI and after struggled to voice her thinking. Interestingly she could write her thinking quite well once given that space. She needed things read to her alongside her reading things herself but her writing was more profound than before.
      All sorts of love dude. I don't intend to compare y’all’s experiences, just share a bit of understanding and support.
      I hope you have the supports and accomadations you are legally owed and a loving shield of friends and family.

    • @tiffanypitts2668
      @tiffanypitts2668 10 месяцев назад +10

      ​@kariannstickle2708 Thank you so very much, I greatly appreciate everything that you have said. I have been struggling in college, and it does get frustrating because I know I can do better than that. I am not going to give up on myself. I am my own advocate and I am very proud of that.

    • @leahsanders798
      @leahsanders798 10 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, my dad had a very severe TBI and he was very irritable and prone to anger. Us in the family knew how to mitigate it, but people from outside could never get why he yelled all the time. And at seemingly random times. He also has a very similar way of speaking to Ryan. When I watched this video, I knew immediately based on the way he was speaking, and asking to go to sleep, that he had a very severe TBI.

    • @jimmycorper
      @jimmycorper 10 месяцев назад +1

      I have hemorrhoids

    • @ericandmax
      @ericandmax 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@tiffanypitts2668you should be very proud! It must be very hard to live with but you're doing great. More power to you Tiffany ❤

  • @KcRose
    @KcRose Год назад +179

    Ryan who got shot in the eye also sat in a police car for HOURS before the interrogation!! My deepest sympathies to his family and the family of Heather, who he did not shoot. I think it was apparent to 99.9% of us watching this that there was something terribly wrong with Ryan and he was in serious need of medical care. Tragic..

    • @--_DJ_--
      @--_DJ_-- 11 месяцев назад +2

      If I wasn't given the backstory first I would not believe he was on deaths doorstep, especially from a double gunshot to the brain.

    • @theKashConnoisseur
      @theKashConnoisseur 11 месяцев назад +7

      I saw a YT doc about this very case a year or so ago. When you get the full picture, the way the police responded makes more sense. They arrive to a dwelling to perform a welfare check. They find a dead woman who has been deceased for 2 days, and her boyfriend is there with a fresh black eye as if there was an altercation. Ryan, the boyfriend, appeared to be healthy aside from his black eye, and claimed that his dead girlfriend was asleep. He also claimed he didn't know what happened as he was also asleep. And so, because murders are almost always carried out by a family member or close acquaintance, Ryan became the prime suspect. At the station, when being questioned, Ryan brought up being shot. But from the cop's standpoint, it seemed like Ryan was engaging in the somewhat common practice of trying to make up an excuse for the murder he had apparently committed.
      As soon as the police realized the seriousness of Ryan's injury, they did exactly what they were supposed to do. They ceased questioning, and they got him treatment.
      Bruce seems like a nice guy, but he's just reacting to what his son is giving him. He doesn't have the full backstory, nor has he seen the full interrogation and body cam footage (literally hours of footage). And like us, he has the benefit of hindsight, since the clips were presented in such a way as to amplify the drama and horror of the situation.

    • @ashleybushaw4071
      @ashleybushaw4071 11 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@theKashConnoisseurIt takes mere minutes to get someone checked out by a medic. What's your excuse for that?

    • @theKashConnoisseur
      @theKashConnoisseur 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@ashleybushaw4071 Why would you get a medic to check a black eye with no other overt evidence of further damage? A single black eye is typically not indicative of a serious injury (unlike two black eyes, representing "racoon eyes" indicative of a basal skull fracture). It's the same reason why medics aren't usually called to examine suspects with other mild surface contusions.

    • @ashleybushaw4071
      @ashleybushaw4071 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@theKashConnoisseur That's more than your basic black eye. Sorry you can't see the obvious 🤷‍♀️

  • @joko09010
    @joko09010 Год назад +208

    The story of Ryan Waller is so tragic. The interrogation is just insane. So sad.

    • @cats1900
      @cats1900 Год назад +15

      It is incredibly heartbreaking.

  • @jeanne2583-w1n
    @jeanne2583-w1n 9 месяцев назад +100

    My husband fell out of our attic and was unconscious for a few seconds. He wouldn't go to the ER, but I made him promise to see his GP the next morning, first thing. He ad an MRI and it showed everything was okay. Six weeks later, when he came home from work, I saw he was dragging his foot. I made him to back to his GP the next day. When he came home, he said he had an another MRI and they would call in the morning with the results.
    He called me at work and told me to meet him at a neurological surgeon's office because he had to have emergency brain surgery. I left work and got to the surgeon's office before he did. When he got there, the surgeon was talking to us and my husband wanted to know if we could go home to get his car home. The surgeon was dumbfounded. "You **DROVE** here?!?! No, you cannot go home, you are going across the street (the hospital was across the street) and we are doing brain surgery *NOW.*
    When he fell out of the attic, it started a very slow bleed. By the time he saw the brain surgeon, he had a *massive* subdural hematoma. One side of his brain had been pushed into the other side of his brain. Half of his skull was literally empty of brain matter. The doctor couldn't believe my husband was even alive, never mind working and driving.
    We were very lucky as the surgeon had helped develop the particular surgery my husband needed. He did tell me that once this surgery was done, he couldn't predict how my husband's brain would react. He wanted me to be aware it could be fatal or catastrophic as in, vegetative state, disabled, unable to use his bowels, paralyzed etc.
    When it was over, he told me I could go see my husband. I expected him to be on a ventilator and out. When I walked in the room, he was surrounded by giggling nurses. He was sitting up and flirting and joking with them. That's my boy! He is good looking, and is a hit with the ladies. But he has never had an affair. That could be because I told him before we married that if he ever had an affair, I would not divorce him, but I would make him wish he had stayed with his ex-wife, terrifying thought, indeed!
    Anyway, that was around twenty-five years ago and he is fine.

    • @liamharney4997
      @liamharney4997 7 месяцев назад +10

      Thank you for sharing! I bet hes glad he listened to you.

    • @Linweezy
      @Linweezy 7 месяцев назад +5

      So glad he’s ok!!! That’s so crazy how serious brain injuries be but hidden all at the same time. Terrifying. So happy it had a good ending!!🙏

    • @zubetp
      @zubetp 7 месяцев назад +5

      oh my god, you said "i got to the surgeon's office before he did," at first i thought that said "i got to the surgeon's office before he died."
      i had SUCH a pang of horror and sadness, and SUCH relief when i read on and realized he was okay 😂 i'm so glad you were able to make sure he got treatment. brain issues are no joke.
      i follow a lady on here whose husband got a bonk on the head trying to fix a fence, and it didn't even bug him that much at the time; but it turned out he had a concussion that caused overwhelming, chronic pain, fatigue, and headaches. after a year of trying different treatments, he eventually traveled out of canada to a brain specialist in the US.
      a year! from a fence post bumping into his head. that is crazy.

    • @Notafemalecasual
      @Notafemalecasual 5 месяцев назад +5

      I was about to start crying ... So happy he is fine and able to innocently flirt...... He's back😅....

    • @LeaningMoreRightByTheDay
      @LeaningMoreRightByTheDay 3 месяца назад +2

      Blessings

  • @TheClumsyMUA
    @TheClumsyMUA Год назад +1829

    I don’t think any video has ever made me more uncomfortable than this video of Ryan. Absolutely heartbreaking.

    • @chazjonez9763
      @chazjonez9763 Год назад +57

      Very! 😢it’s so frustrating and aggravating.

    • @cbeverage18
      @cbeverage18 Год назад +93

      Agree. They were found to have not delayed any issue or injury. Go figure. This needs to be reopened.

    • @violinistoftaupo
      @violinistoftaupo Год назад +86

      That interrogator went beyond negligent to being cruel to Ryan... I'm speechless 😮

    • @dwentlandt1022
      @dwentlandt1022 Год назад

      Cops have the right to do whatever they want because no matter what they do there is really no consequences. It’s always found justifiable no matter what they do. Out right murder, assault and battery, false arrest, it happens 99.7% of all cases. It takes massive protests and demonstrations to get one cop held accountable for murder but the cops will defame the victim to try swaying a jury at all costs.

    • @kieronparr3403
      @kieronparr3403 Год назад +37

      I've seen everything online (barring kid stuff) but this just made me so weird inside. My fingertips went numb the first time I saw it

  • @TheNeonman39
    @TheNeonman39 Год назад +157

    That was so hard to watch Ryan struggle. It’s amazing how well he held himself together. Any amount of empathy from the detective could’ve saved him.

  • @GEOMETRICINK
    @GEOMETRICINK 11 месяцев назад +25

    Listening to that innocent kid groaning in pain just makes my stomach turn. Those cops were negligent. Not believing he was shot in the eye, with the amount of obvious damage to his face is just sickening.

    • @helgafrahmann4201
      @helgafrahmann4201 4 месяца назад

      I didnt believe it too! Shot in the eye and go, speak, being wake , how coulld i believe it?? I can understand this cop and wish for him, he can be health from his trauma! My brother was killt from sn too fast cardriver, but he cross the street with his bike, and he doesnt look for a car and it was happen ! Who is guilty ? The fast driver or my brother, wwho doesnt look right and left?? No one knows it ! 😢the same with this poor cop: an unbelievible story , the typical behavior like a grumpy teeny , a blue eye, may be, his girlfriend beat him, the first normal behavior, but later suspicious behavior and then he realise, anywhat isnt normal .and he call for help! It look very normal for me, sorry!

  • @veronikanikolev7760
    @veronikanikolev7760 Год назад +459

    The video about Ryan mixed up a small detail but makes it all the more horrific. Ryan hadn't been found after a few hours, he was found after over two days. For two days he had been struggling to survive right next to his girlfriends dead body, his brain injury made him believe that she was just asleep. When he finds out shes dead in the interrogation its heartbreaking. RIP Ryan

    • @stardustmelody2709
      @stardustmelody2709 Год назад +30

      That's probably why the cop only got three years.

    • @veronicababy7959
      @veronicababy7959 Год назад +17

      Wow. That is unconscionable. Poor kid!

    • @Hail-the-hypnotoad
      @Hail-the-hypnotoad 11 месяцев назад

      Thats what the cops say happened. But his girlfriends date of death on her headstone show the day of the interrogation as the same day she died. Theres a theory that the cops are lying about when their attack happened bc if he had been wondering around his home for two days after being shot in the face well then its not that bad that they help him for as long as they did without medical help some people believe that ryan and his girlfriend were shot this same day

    • @karidennis6154
      @karidennis6154 11 месяцев назад +56

      @@stardustmelody2709the other detail not mentioned is that they let him sit in a cruiser for around 4 hours before taking him to the police station. Just heartbreaking.

    • @MaryJane-qm3ld
      @MaryJane-qm3ld 11 месяцев назад +5

      WHATT! omg

  • @dreamchaser_4813
    @dreamchaser_4813 Год назад +295

    That cop putting that kid through that is absolutely disgusting. Anyone with ANY SHRED of common sense should be able to tell he is seriously injured and needs medical attention urgently. I am so beyond disgusted by this, it’s making me sick.

    • @HyeMaiden
      @HyeMaiden Год назад +18

      Same and just sat back casually and put his hands on his dumb bald head like he was on a leisurely cruise or something I hope that cop is living every waking moment with a guilty conscience because he did not get enough prison time for his negligence a lot of cops are just trying to get their end quota or whatever else just to get paid or get off on it.... I was so disgusted by that cops behavior...what did he think that he put make up on his face?!?! As if he was lieing....broke my heart 😢

    • @chu7219
      @chu7219 Год назад +1

      ⁠@@HyeMaidenCalm down buddy

    • @KI-fm6uk
      @KI-fm6uk 11 месяцев назад +14

      The cops had already decided he was guilty and treated him accordingly.

    • @HyeMaiden
      @HyeMaiden 11 месяцев назад +13

      @chu7219 how would you feel if someone didn't get you medical treatment right away and you were slowly dieing and deteriorating I'm perfectly calm ....comments section is used for venting ....I'm physically disabled with a twisted spine and I had surgery fusing it with a lot of hardware seeing someone suffering hurts me too because I'm slowly suffering in pain too.... and I'm a female.... not a "buddy"

    • @josephswann3759
      @josephswann3759 11 месяцев назад +3

      many, many, many police officers have been murdered by someone feining injury or sickness or mental incompacitation. Criminal Malingering: faking sickness for a alterior motive, is super common in police cases. i know you think you would do better if u were an officer but be careful that your self esteem doesnt cause derealization.

  • @SuperSpud01
    @SuperSpud01 8 месяцев назад +40

    Engineer here. Your point on the humbling experience of college is something I experienced too. I finished my 4 year degree feeling less well equipped than when I started. That ego check is something I think everyone should go through.

    • @Katrina-qs2rl
      @Katrina-qs2rl Месяц назад

      Great point. College degrees, especially 4-year and above and in a stem subject are very humbling. This helps to explain why the best educated people rarely brag about their education. Instead, it's the ill-educated who have delusions of grandeur. I went back to university (after a 2-year clinical degree) and got my BA and MA in applied economics. Great education that has helped me get the most out of life.

    • @aebalc
      @aebalc 18 дней назад

      @@Katrina-qs2rl I completely disagree. Some people are humble - some are not. I know great people who are very well educated, I know others that are arrogant asshats. This was not a matter of education it was a matter of humanity and empathy and no 4 year degree grants you those.

  • @GrumpyJerk
    @GrumpyJerk Год назад +67

    Man, the way the cops just ignored the guy with the gunshot wound is criminal, no empathy or concern for him whatsoever. Good video. Thanks for posting’! Cheers from H-Town!

  • @desertcat4193
    @desertcat4193 Год назад +261

    The pictures showed Ryan's injury was obviously a bullet wound, and the cop was close enough to see it. The cop had left him in the police car for hours before the interrogation began. The most disgusting thing is that the cop who ignored Ryan Weller's injury retired with a FULL PENSION. I'm from Phoenix and this case still horrifies and is one of the reasons the Feds are investigating corruption in law enforcement here.

    • @yourconnection9303
      @yourconnection9303 11 месяцев назад +17

      That cop probably doesn't have many friends now either. And if he has any amount of conscience, what he failed to do for Ryan will play on his mind until his last breath.

    • @amusedBYfools
      @amusedBYfools 11 месяцев назад +9

      Ryan's dad said the cop waited for a search warrant to enter AFTER he saw Heather's body on the floor. Then the bass turd waited for a locksmith to show up to unlock the door.

    • @FrenkieWest32
      @FrenkieWest32 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@amusedBYfools how would the dad know that though?

    • @desertcat4193
      @desertcat4193 11 месяцев назад +1

      This was from some of the interviews with the dad and he was referring to the reports made by the police. @@FrenkieWest32

    • @macysondheim
      @macysondheim 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@yourconnection9303Lol actually the cop who did that to Ryan has plenty of friends, and is currently enjoying his pension and likes to travel and go on vacation at least twice per year. The incident with Ryan had some pushback at first, but he’s been able to put it behind him, and has taken up gardening as a new hobby. Palm trees are his favorite 🌴

  • @christinemartinez-uv3rj
    @christinemartinez-uv3rj 8 месяцев назад +17

    Im an RN with 15 yrs experience in the hospital and now work in a jail...treating people with dignity doesnt mean you're "soft" on crime...this was painful to watch...Ryan was showing blatant signs of Neurological decompensation,,sleepiness, agitation, & confusion. It would have been so easy to just take him to the ER for an evaluation.

  • @mistyrose8527
    @mistyrose8527 11 месяцев назад +108

    As a nurse, that was incredibly hard to watch! 😢💔 I work with caregivers (no medical training). They would have called 911 immediately just on the facial injury alone. You were too kind. This police officer just didn't give a shit. It's just common sence to take him to ER for medical clearance prior to interrogation! OMG

    • @jax993
      @jax993 9 месяцев назад +2

      So true that’s what I commented about there’s no way that wld happen here so unprofessional

  • @chelsea_withan_a618
    @chelsea_withan_a618 Год назад +231

    I remember watching the unedited version of Ryan Waller’s interrogation under the guise of a “faking insanity” title. After watching about the first 3 minutes, it became pretty clear that this person is experiencing some kind of major medical issue. It’s extremely uncomfortable and heartbreaking to watch because this interrogation is actually pretty long. There are a lot of people in the chain of custody who failed Ryan beyond this one interrogator.

    • @Sputterbug
      @Sputterbug 11 месяцев назад +7

      fr anyone at the station he walked past could have called an ambulance

    • @williamcoles4950
      @williamcoles4950 11 месяцев назад +2

      Do you know if this cop was at least fired or better yet fired

    • @louhortonsculpture
      @louhortonsculpture 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@williamcoles4950someone commented the details on a comment above this one. No, there was no Justice.

    • @BartimaeusAurelius
      @BartimaeusAurelius 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah watching his interrogation again was rough

    • @tannershanksftw
      @tannershanksftw 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@louhortonsculpturenah, the cop got 3 years in prison.

  • @johnnieclemons2921
    @johnnieclemons2921 10 месяцев назад +125

    That cop needs to be in prison for so much longer. What a joke of a human

    • @byronharano2391
      @byronharano2391 2 месяца назад

      Correction. That detective is feces of a donkey and not a human being.

  • @TheKenab
    @TheKenab 11 месяцев назад +61

    It should be mandatory that anyone with any kind of injury has to be fully cleared by a Dr. at the hospital before cops are allowed to interview them.

  • @jennmoslek921
    @jennmoslek921 Год назад +51

    I watched that entire interrogation of the kid that was shot in the eye. It was excruciating to see this young man clearly in pain & struggling to answer questions. When that officer stood up & saw the bullet hole, I was equal parts pissed & relieved!

    • @cats1900
      @cats1900 Год назад +7

      Yes. He was clearly suffering further brain damage from the shot. The police failed that one.

    • @abasdarhon
      @abasdarhon Год назад +7

      Yeah, that video was a tough watch indeed. Hours of interrogation before it finally occurs to the detective to at least take a look himself.

  • @cicada2022
    @cicada2022 11 месяцев назад +29

    Poor Ryan! He was not making any sense at all. I had a concussion & had to take cognitive therapy. My speech slurred. I sounded drunk in the beginning of recovery. I felt mentally challenged at times & looked perfectly normal. It was extremely frustrating. I could not imagine being interrogated for 4 hours with two bullets in my eye. 😔 RIP Ryan. 🕊

  • @KarennotarealKaren
    @KarennotarealKaren Год назад +66

    They don’t believe he got shot in the eye when he has the blackest eye anyone has probably ever seen. You don’t need a 4 year degree to have common sense. Wow! They really failed this poor boy. RIP 🥀😢

    • @kpstl26
      @kpstl26 11 месяцев назад +6

      In the actual pictures you can literally see the bullet hole. Those cops should've gone to prison. Just listening to him say one sentence you can tell something is wrong with him.

  • @bleukettu4521
    @bleukettu4521 Год назад +104

    Watching Ryan struggle broke my heart. I had a friend that got in a car accident and physically he looked fine and didn't want to go to the hospital, but a few hours later he started acting kind of like this. He would repeat himself multiple times in a few minutes, wasn't remembering this we just told him and kept asking us to just take him home to sleep. We took him to hospital instead and it turned out he had whiplash and a concussion. Even if these cops thought Ryan was this wacked out on drugs or something they should have realized he needed medical attention. I hope they're all rotting in jail.

  • @elliesharp401
    @elliesharp401 10 месяцев назад +21

    Even as someone without basic medical training you’d be like why is this guy so confused and dazed up?!

    • @helgafrahmann4201
      @helgafrahmann4201 4 месяца назад

      For me it look first like a grumpy teeny, who feel uncomfortable and pissed , normal! Later i saw, anywhat isnt ok ! Then he get help!! Shame, that the cop hasnt xray eyes or he wasnt a clairvoyant !!! 😢 Blue eye could come from sport, accident with a door, ....

    • @doom4067
      @doom4067 2 месяца назад

      If a guy with a black eye like that is telling you that he got shot in the eye, it's a good idea to get it checked out.

  • @Th3Watch3r
    @Th3Watch3r Год назад +322

    It's infuriating to see such incompetent cops. 😡

    • @rainzerdesu
      @rainzerdesu Год назад +24

      You'd be even more infuriated knowing that the city colluded to prevent Ryan's family from suing the police.

    • @Th3Watch3r
      @Th3Watch3r Год назад +8

      @@rainzerdesu it doesn't surprise me really, but i appreciate the info. Thank you.

    • @Grawlix_Jungle
      @Grawlix_Jungle Год назад +12

      @@Th3Watch3r dumb, arrogant cops tend to climb the ranks. And yeah, the city got a doctor to testify that the six hours they delayed treatment probably wouldn’t have helped him anyways, and a judge (that was probably in their pocket) agreed and dismissed the lawsuit

    • @Tortilla.Reform
      @Tortilla.Reform Год назад

      Fun Fact; police have been defunding all of us for years. Everytime you see a multimillion dollar lawsuit or settlement as a result of police incompetence, misconduct, or corruption, we the taxpayers pay for that, while the police avoid accountability for their abuse of power and authority, as these cops did

    • @Hatemode_NJ
      @Hatemode_NJ Год назад

      Corrupt cops as well since they make the most arrest. I know for a fact because the detective that arrested me and lied about everything is now the top cop in that town. This was before cameras and I'd love to know how much his arrest rates have changed since he's been required to wear one.

  • @bunniesprite
    @bunniesprite Год назад +106

    Ryan wallers case makes me sick to my stomach that poor kid I can’t imagine the pain and frustration from the cops mocking him while he was DYING IN FRONT OF THEM. Rest in peace Ryan

  • @SammehMarley
    @SammehMarley 7 месяцев назад +3

    I watched the whole long version of the stuff with the guy who got shot in the eye; that was beyond heartbreaking. Poor dude was the victim of a very violent crime, but treated like a malicious criminal.

  • @PsychedOut..
    @PsychedOut.. Год назад +245

    I’m only about 30 seconds into this video but I wanted to thank you for always putting out such great content. I’m having treatment and just lost my dad - it’s a pretty miserable time. Your videos give me an escape and make me laugh while the rest of my family sleeps. I love seeing your father/son relationship. Cherish it always 🤍

    • @melissapeters9820
      @melissapeters9820 Год назад +21

      Just wanted to say that as ironic as it is, I just lost my Dad as well.. and weeks later we lost my husbands father... I'm an only child and my Dad was my best friend, so we are also going through some pretty miserable and difficult times right now.. but I love learning about law and LOVE Bruce and Michael's content always.. and especially, like you said, when the rest of my family is sleeping ❤ Anyhow, my condolences to you and hang in there.. thanks for sharing your personal and sensitive situation, and by doing so, letting me remember that I'm NOT alone.. and neither are you💯🙏🏽❤️

    • @Jennifermcintyre
      @Jennifermcintyre Год назад +10

      @@melissapeters9820😢 I’m so sorry..

    • @Th3Watch3r
      @Th3Watch3r Год назад +8

      I'm so very sorry about your loss. Prayers of strength and Guidance in these Turbulent times. 🙏

    • @redoutdoors69
      @redoutdoors69 Год назад +9

      Lost my dad from cancer coming up on two years 😢 I feel for you

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt Год назад +8

      I am so sorry for your loss. And for your other struggles. I hope things get better soon, as better as they can be!❤

  • @abasdarhon
    @abasdarhon Год назад +189

    Ryan Waller's case was heartbreaking; even health classes in high school cover basic first aid which includes recognizing and treating shock. People who are very ill or badly injured cannot mentally operate normally; it's not surprising that Ryan didn't think to call 911 after he and his girlfriend were shot. The only surprising thing here is how the officer completely and repeatedly missed these screaming red flags that Ryan's confused and dazed responses were throwing out.

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt Год назад +27

      Yes!! The confused speech was a clear sign along with the damn GIANT wound on his fckin eye!!

    • @claudiatapia8310
      @claudiatapia8310 Год назад +9

      This was very stressful to watch, I want to run and rescue him, how deeply sad ...

    • @missveronica8393
      @missveronica8393 Год назад +8

      I've seen the case on another channel once before, and I think I'm going to skip it on this video, I don't want to watch him suffer again, that was just so awful 😢

    • @spicygal8564
      @spicygal8564 Год назад +7

      I think the interrogator had a serious personality disorder because any random person would know the severity of Ryan's injury

    • @markbrown8097
      @markbrown8097 11 месяцев назад +4

      Got to get that "confession" no matter what the truth is.😢

  • @bettygreenhansen
    @bettygreenhansen 9 месяцев назад +8

    Simple.
    The cuffs go on, you ask for an attorney.
    Be polite.
    Thank you, Bruce and Michael!
    🌟

  • @mandycreeksquad1722
    @mandycreeksquad1722 11 месяцев назад +80

    Ryan's situation breaks my heart. He's exhibiting all the classic signs of a head injury. Irritability, confusion, slurred speech and wanting to go to sleep. Not to mention the blatant appearance of his eye. That detective should have sent him to the ER before he even spoke a word to him.

  • @VNExperience
    @VNExperience Год назад +100

    As a Finn, I'm glad that police academy is a 4-year degree comparable to university or polytechnic. After 2 years of academic studies, student officers begin ride-alongs with seasoned officers and by the time they graduate they have good knowledge of their field. As a result, the public trust in the police ranks among the highest in the world. I think the same model would work great in the US.
    Best wishes from a Finn in Vietnam. 🇫🇮 🇻🇳 ❤ 🇺🇸

    • @Chris-ci8vs
      @Chris-ci8vs Год назад +14

      It wouldn't work in the US, they are too juvenile and impatient.

    • @theKashConnoisseur
      @theKashConnoisseur 11 месяцев назад +6

      Looking at the US as if it's Finland is erroneous. Each state is analogous to an independent EU member nation in terms of their legal sovereignty. The federal government of the US is more analogous to the EU, since it has strictly limited power over the States.
      A Finland-style police hiring standard would be nearly impossible to implement, due to how the US government's structure divides power between the local, state, and federal levels. The hiring standards of municipal police and local sheriff's deputies are going to be set locally, informed by municipal budgets and variations in law enforcement priority (big cities with higher crime need more police than rural towns with very low crime, for instance). State police will have their hiring standards set by lawmakers on the state level, and those standards tend to be quite high due to the nature of statewide criminal investigations. There are also federal law enforcement officers, although they aren't exactly thought of as police, and more like the strong arm of the current political powers. However, they have extremely high hiring standards, and it usually begins with a 4 year bachelors degree, with things like prior military service helping candidates stand out.

    • @boanless
      @boanless 11 месяцев назад +10

      In North America. You apply, go to 6 month training camp. And then they give you a gun, a car, and the highest authority in everyday society.

    • @theKashConnoisseur
      @theKashConnoisseur 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@boanless tfw you forget Canada and the US are both on the North American continent and have different standards of law.

    • @gaiaiulia
      @gaiaiulia 11 месяцев назад +5

      In Ireland it's a two year degree course with lectures, practical training and strict assessment, and also refreshers courses every so often after graduating. And our police force are by and large unarmed, except if they need to arrest a known violent criminal or in an operation targeting gang members, where the Armed Response Unit will be deployed.

  • @zavanahjo6132
    @zavanahjo6132 10 месяцев назад +28

    Ryan’s case: Tragic miracle. He’s dying as he speaks but he spoke the details needed in order to piece together the scene of events that led to the murder of Heather, and ultimately, himself, so that the perps were caught, tried, and convicted!

    • @SammehMarley
      @SammehMarley 7 месяцев назад +1

      I actually really appreciate this slight silver lining perspective on the whole thing, because to be honest, I'm almost tearing up watching Ryan's story

    • @jamiemcdonald4279
      @jamiemcdonald4279 Месяц назад +1

      If I recall correctly he survived for like 10 years or something. Ultimately died from complications from this injury.

  • @hannahreed2451
    @hannahreed2451 Год назад +357

    Everytime I watch Ryan’s interrogation I feel physically sick. It doesn’t matter if the cop believed him or not, this man clearly has an injury and he’s claiming he was shot…there is absolutely no excuse to deny him medical attention. He was so ready to be “that guy” who solved the case that he sacrificed his morals and empathy to do so. He knew Ryan needed medical attention and intentionally denied him his right for almost a hour in the hopes he would just confess. It’s lazy detective work, and I hope he suffers from living with this guilt for the rest of his life.

    • @maryannswanson3832
      @maryannswanson3832 11 месяцев назад +4

      Well said I agree!

    • @StephenAnimations
      @StephenAnimations 11 месяцев назад +21

      As a cop he probably goes to bed easy

    • @SithScribe21
      @SithScribe21 11 месяцев назад +6

      It literally made me a nervous wreck

    • @brians1793
      @brians1793 11 месяцев назад +6

      I've seen it before and was just thinking the same thing, it both makes me physically sick and I can almost feel it in my eye and can understand being in states of confusion with people like that. When people don't understand the difference between someone that's confused and trying their best and someone that's knowingly lying.
      Makes me think of a time I was at the doctor for serious insomnia when I hadn't slept in 3 days straight, I forgot a card and had to get it then when I got back I couldn't recall where the doctors office I was in was at. It was a family friend I knew by his first name so rather than asking where Dr. _____'s room is I said his first name, this one woman there gave me such a smug condescending attitude about that and made a smart ass remark, something like "You're asking where a room is and you're standing right next to one" and it happened to be it. I almost lost my shit on her because I never did like her, just a disgusting person. Besides my dad could be so lacking in understanding or people think you're just making shit up or exaggerating when saying you haven't slept in 3 days and act frustrated and impatient with you when you seem irritable and confused.
      Also I broke my nose really badly in high school, a bone pierced the septum through an artery, they didn't know that until after 2 hours of sucking out blood clots in the ER and trying to cauterize the veins so I needed surgery. The school nurse tried telling me it wasn't broken and I could go home, if I'd done that the bleeding wouldn't have stopped. I was batting in softball in gym class and I got to first base then turned to look at 2nd and it got thrown so hard to first base and hit me. So much blood was pouring out I just cupped my hands and it filled up my hands in seconds, it slowed a lot after that but I lost a lot of blood. The kid that threw the ball almost got kicked out for rushing into a girl and knocking her over when he was running home than laughed about it, but it was days before graduation and they didn't want to interfere with that, so much negligence on the school's part.

    • @amusedBYfools
      @amusedBYfools 11 месяцев назад +9

      Somebody please tell me that detective is no longer in law enforcement.

  • @sio_h1875
    @sio_h1875 Год назад +202

    Ryan’s case has haunted me for years. The severe lack of empathy from the cops, the bruising growing during the interrogation and the number of hours he was left to suffer not only in the interrogation room but in the cop car outside the crime scene. The life-long injuries and subsequent death from them and lack of medical treatment is awful. The family should have received something - anything - in way of compensation for how he was treated and how he was left to live the remainder of his life due to their incompetence.

    • @notme2day
      @notme2day 11 месяцев назад +4

      The remainder of his life?.. those lifelong injuries were only hours.
      What happened to Ryan was heartbreaking and horrible. His family was denied any justice afterwards and that is sickening.

    • @sio_h1875
      @sio_h1875 11 месяцев назад +20

      @@notme2day yes, remainder of his life. He died due to a seizure caused by the injuries years later.

    • @notme2day
      @notme2day 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@sio_h1875 my apologies... a different video I watched implied he died hours later in hospital.
      Thank you for pointing out my information was wrong.

    • @kimberlyelliott7933
      @kimberlyelliott7933 11 месяцев назад

      💯💯💯

    • @travishayslip9409
      @travishayslip9409 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@notme2day593 if he died in the hospital from something hours ago, is still the remainder of his life😂😂😂

  • @aprilcaricchio4309
    @aprilcaricchio4309 8 месяцев назад +5

    I've seen this one with the kid getting shot in the eye before. And it is super painful to watch. So heartbreaking.

  • @larissabrewington9065
    @larissabrewington9065 Год назад +608

    It's not lack of education. It's lack of empathy....

    • @rai1879
      @rai1879 Год назад +64

      They do like hiring bullies

    • @SaraWOanH
      @SaraWOanH Год назад +43

      Absolutely! The general public in America seems to lack empathy, but cops are a step above that even.

    • @GrumpyJerk
      @GrumpyJerk Год назад +26

      Exactly! Inhuman behavior.

    • @1127jd
      @1127jd Год назад +19

      Yeah, I didn’t like Bruce’s take on Ryan’s interrogation. Felt like he was very eager to excuse the detective.

    • @ameliaflowers9836
      @ameliaflowers9836 Год назад +16

      If there wasn’t such a lack of accountability, there would be more empathy .

  • @christineannehamilton4778
    @christineannehamilton4778 Год назад +547

    Who loves bruce and michael????????

  • @BookishDark
    @BookishDark 10 месяцев назад +9

    Awesome video! I LOVE that you referenced phineas gage - it was my first thought! such a completely crazy case but he survived for several years after!

    • @zubetp
      @zubetp 7 месяцев назад

      he even traveled; but he struggled to find work, is the issue. he was a hard worker, but he was inconsistent and by most accounts difficult to work with. which is a shame - he was very friendly and well liked before the incident. i wonder how much of it was brain damage and how much of it may have been trauma from having his head blown open lol.

  • @kimingram2750
    @kimingram2750 Год назад +123

    Ryan and his girlfriend Heather were shot on December 23 and this interrogation is on December 26 after Ryan’s parents had called police for a wellness check. For 3 days , after being shot in the head, he didn’t remember what happened and thought Heather was just taking a nap…. not realizing Christmas came and went. He was treated absolutely terrible 😢
    Rip Ryan and Heather
    And it was after being interrogated for more than 6 hours before he finally got medical attention…. Not 56 minutes!

    • @shirleywiese5230
      @shirleywiese5230 11 месяцев назад +18

      Wow. 3 days went by. That could be another reason cop didn’t think he was shot. No excuse though. Ryan was clearly in need of medical attention.

    • @amusedBYfools
      @amusedBYfools 11 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/zcZFsy18KZY/видео.htmlsi=uiZ5W26-6ME-a7IM

    • @kimberlyelliott7933
      @kimberlyelliott7933 11 месяцев назад

      😢😢😢

    • @jessh7280
      @jessh7280 11 месяцев назад

      What happened to the cops?

    • @Ms.Brightside77
      @Ms.Brightside77 11 месяцев назад +4

      I think he was in a cop car at the scene for 6 hours before even going to the station. I can’t even imagine. I sure hope this cop has faced some kind of repercussions. But he probably didn’t.

  • @michelleflippin1808
    @michelleflippin1808 11 месяцев назад +80

    I'm so glad you covered Ryan's story. I have known about this case since it first happened. This detective was absolutely disgusting. Makes my stomach turn every time I see it.

    • @stagger9660
      @stagger9660 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah, what a piece of shit. Some other commenters said he only got 3 years. I have no idea why cops are judged so leniently.

    • @shanny4306
      @shanny4306 9 месяцев назад +4

      🇨🇦 absolutely ! 😰First it hurt my stomach and hurt my heart ,then I just felt fury😡

  • @mom2-4kidz
    @mom2-4kidz 10 месяцев назад +2

    I've seen this video once before and it just makes me FURIOUS!!! It's so obvious there's something wrong... call EMS!! Absolutely unbelievable!!

  • @loganwilczewski
    @loganwilczewski 11 месяцев назад +130

    can we all appreciate the fact a world class attorney takes hours out of his day to make videos like this educating us on law

    • @theKashConnoisseur
      @theKashConnoisseur 11 месяцев назад +5

      A world class attorney, huh? As far as I can tell, he's only licensed to practice in Minnesota, so at best he's a region-leading attorney. I'm sure he's a great litigator, but his main claim to fame is his self-promotional RUclips channel, not his "world class" law practice. And he obviously does it for the money and exposure. In the past few videos, he's also inadvertently offered misinformation. For example, he suggested brandishing a firearm prior to using deadly force in self defense (a HUGE no-no both legally and in terms of what concealed carry classes teach), he stated that ONLY a police officer can defeat a retention holster (anyone can if they know to press the buttons and/or flip the retention hood), and he stated that Smartguns can only be fired by the person who's fingerprint they are registered to (many RUclips videos on defeating smartgun sfaeguards). So it's not even particularly educational.

    • @alexmason9397
      @alexmason9397 11 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@theKashConnoisseursounds like u need a job bro

    • @theKashConnoisseur
      @theKashConnoisseur 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@alexmason9397 I got one already but thanks for your concern lil bro.

    • @concrete-disco
      @concrete-disco 11 месяцев назад

      can you give us the link

    • @renateccawthern3350
      @renateccawthern3350 10 месяцев назад

      Well. Let's kiss his feet as he is so friggin rich! I do like him nevertheless even though he's a dweeb.

  • @leahhegen7930
    @leahhegen7930 Год назад +38

    I've seen the raw interrogation footage of Ryan, it gets harder to watch every time because I know how needless and prolonged his pain was. You're absolutely right when you say cops need a longer education.

    • @MultiLimpet
      @MultiLimpet 11 месяцев назад +7

      Lot of seizure and stroke victims get beaten up by cops

  • @kelly-k-dub
    @kelly-k-dub 9 месяцев назад +4

    The kid with the bullet wound to his eye was horrible to watch! I worked for our local PD for 13 years. If we arrested someone with visible injuries we would IMMEDIATELY 1. Have the fire/EMTs on scene 2. Send them to the hospital to be cleared. This is outrageous!! I hope the detectives were reprimanded for this. Absolutely egregious. At the least they should’ve been suspended without pay, upon return go through some retraining, then sit behind a desk pushing paper for a few months!!!! This young man hopefully sued the PD for this ignorant behavior!!! Oh, fyi, I have witnessed people with a gunshot to the head a few times and lived!!! It happens more than one would think!!!!

  • @mariaclark8180
    @mariaclark8180 Год назад +67

    I would love to see Bruce do a reaction on the whole video of Ryan's case. There is so much more to the story. It's a case that will leave you outraged, shocked and heartbroken.

    • @amusedBYfools
      @amusedBYfools 11 месяцев назад

      The interview w Ryan dad on THIS IS MONSTERS made me want to avoid Phoenix forever.
      ruclips.net/video/zcZFsy18KZY/видео.htmlsi=uiZ5W26-6ME-a7IM

    • @coding4funmusic605
      @coding4funmusic605 11 месяцев назад +3

      Agreed!

    • @thesingerintheshower
      @thesingerintheshower 11 месяцев назад +2

      I feel sick, but it's comforting to see how many people here in the comments have and are showing their empathy ❤️ 💗. 😢😢😢😢

    • @macysondheim
      @macysondheim 11 месяцев назад

      I watched it and I wasn’t outraged or shocked at all. Ryan and Heather were drug users, who had burned Richie and his father for close to around $2000 worth of oxys & other various pain pills (Vicodin, norcos, etc.) To me it seems like more of a case or Karma catching up to these 2 addicts.

    • @thesingerintheshower
      @thesingerintheshower 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@macysondheim who cares? $2,000 is not worth someone's life.

  • @wendyhenschel.
    @wendyhenschel. Год назад +37

    I am with you on Ryan's case. That one really pissed me off. that officer was out of line. You could see his eye was injured and he was saying outlandish things and yet he just ignored him. wtf??

    • @slippingsnake
      @slippingsnake Год назад

      At this moment the Victim was the prime Suspect, these cop have to deal with deceiptive, drugged or psychotic Persons quite often.
      No question that Ryan should have been examend at the scene and later when he showed strange behavior, but I guess dealing with criminals makes these cops hard-boiled and have less Emphaty for the Suspect.

  • @littlemonk2610
    @littlemonk2610 9 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Bruce! I love your constant educating of your audience. At the end, you summarize with: (1) Try not to get interrogated at all, and (2) If interrogated, ask for an attorney and say NOTHING. As you lecture throughout the videos, though, I think you want to add (3) ALWAYS assume you are being recorded while you are in official premises (whether building or car). Assume you are being audio and video recorded, and continue to behave as an innocent person waiting for your attorney to arrive. Don't disclose anything, even to a kind officer or cellmate. No? Love your channel.

  • @_Kittensworth
    @_Kittensworth Год назад +36

    Too many people these days think education is useless, so thank you for pointing out how dangerous that is for the people who have the power over our safety. I feel so sad for the young man whose medical care was seriously delayed, with no consequences.

  • @KathyAnne28
    @KathyAnne28 11 месяцев назад +83

    Ryan's situation is appalling to me. It just screams of callousness from overexposure due to their jobs but the man is wanting to go to sleep, has obvious injuries and bruising to his face with the same weapon his girlfriend was just murdered with. As someone in the medical field, it's disgusting and i hope he sued the HELL out of that department.

    • @LostStarzOfTheSky
      @LostStarzOfTheSky 9 месяцев назад +10

      He died

    • @virginiawolf1708
      @virginiawolf1708 8 месяцев назад +6

      Agree cops should require a 4 year degree. They have too much responsibility and too little education.

  • @renatesperlich7266
    @renatesperlich7266 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hearing the questions the investigator. makes my blood boil and the young man needed to be taken to the Hospital urgently.

  • @Lenore4Evermore
    @Lenore4Evermore Год назад +55

    This video made me actually nauseous for what they did to Ryan. I am sick. I am in awe of the stupidity of the officers. Shame. BTW- I love the Father & Son bond you have . I know you know it's priceless. Beautiful to see. Thank you for educating us and keeping us so engaged.

  • @arleneblankenship2488
    @arleneblankenship2488 Год назад +26

    As a Hospitalist-NP this is so hard to watch. I’m getting more and more anxious by the second. It is absolutely clear that this guy is not OK. I really home this cop and his colleagues face charges.

    • @calebdeaver1018
      @calebdeaver1018 11 месяцев назад

      PA here and same I’m about to squirm out of my seat

    • @mariahsmom9457
      @mariahsmom9457 11 месяцев назад +2

      This haplened some years ago. The cop got a slap on the wrist and retired with a full pension. No one was ever held to account. Cruel beyond belief.

  • @TstanDa-Man
    @TstanDa-Man 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is one of my favorite channels on RUclips. Bruce when you paused the video 25:25 and just look at camera 😂 and don’t say anything was perfect.

  • @tiffanyholman4028
    @tiffanyholman4028 Год назад +35

    Just the head injury behavior was enough to get him a CT scan immediately. That cop was disgusting. I can't imagine how much pain and confusion that poor kid was experiencing.

  • @KillVill75
    @KillVill75 Год назад +48

    I know 3 years isn’t enough, but I’m surprised that detective got any time at all. Cops get away with worse it seems.

    • @-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-
      @-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- Год назад +8

      It mostly comes down to the ability of the victims to press legal action. These officers can be held fully accountable--the avenues are there--but it's up to the victims to navigate legal system and ensure justice is served. Not a lot of people can do that. This is a reason officers are more careless around the poor than the rich.

    • @ray495903314
      @ray495903314 Год назад +2

      @@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- that and the fact officers have qualified immunity, and judges aren't likely to take it away. Honestly we need a constitutional amendment ensuring all levels of government have full legal consequences for their actions because a right without a remedy is not a right at all, but that's not going to happen.

  • @anthonyhill4072
    @anthonyhill4072 7 месяцев назад +1

    “When you dont know what you dont know, you think you know everything” a fucking bar

  • @aarongillespie8346
    @aarongillespie8346 Год назад +23

    The sad part about the guy that was shot in the head was that they interrogated him for 8 hours before he was transported for medical care. This led to him having irreversible brain damage and he had to have 24 hour care for the rest of his life. He died from complications from these injuries years later.

    • @DiaExMachina
      @DiaExMachina Год назад +7

      ​@@horacesheffield7367of course they did... that would mean they'd admit liability

    • @JaceB-tf3vf
      @JaceB-tf3vf Год назад +3

      Almost every detail you typed was wrong lol

    • @MsSilverTulip
      @MsSilverTulip Год назад

      ​@@horacesheffield7367the case was dismissed due to corruption. Of course the city didn't want to be held liable so they made outrageous claims which an expert neurosurgeon has refuted. Ie. They LIED about not being at fault. After a brain injury like this, time is critical and the police delayed treatment for hours.

  • @maureenhastings8834
    @maureenhastings8834 11 месяцев назад +6

    Omg, I cannot watch this again. Just the thought of this event brings me to tears

  • @kimkelly3075
    @kimkelly3075 9 месяцев назад +3

    When I was an EMT we had training in GSWs and I used those skills during my time as a big metropolitan 911 ambulance service.

    • @zubetp
      @zubetp 7 месяцев назад +1

      thank you for your service. i hope that doesn't sound sarcastic. i think emt and ambulance drivers must have profoundly stressful jobs. i get stressed just trying to make a left turn at the speed limit.

  • @KT_571
    @KT_571 11 месяцев назад +54

    Imagine if that young man was your family member and being treated this way by this detective! Devastating! The cop deserves more than a few years behind bars!

    • @Mellypepper
      @Mellypepper 11 месяцев назад +12

      Instead nothing happened to him and he got to retire with a full pension. Now he gets to live happy and free with our tax dollars paying his bills.

    • @springfauna1465
      @springfauna1465 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MellypepperHow disgusting!!!! Hopefully people who know this detective will see this and know what a real POS he was/is!!! Definitely no empathy there!!

    • @leebrock4783
      @leebrock4783 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@MellypepperI thought the video said he got 3 years in prison?

    • @iulia.bianca.b
      @iulia.bianca.b 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@leebrock4783 He didn't. The dude who did the video that Bruce was reacting to got LOTS of stuff wrong. The cops weren't punished in any way. Ryan's dad didn't even sue them, that's also wrong. He said suing them wouldn't bring his son back.

    • @stagger9660
      @stagger9660 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@iulia.bianca.b I get not reopening the wound, per se, but there was a serious opportunity for justice that could have had impact on all departments departments nationwide

  • @Super-Sec
    @Super-Sec Год назад +20

    This is unbelievable, you don't need training to clearly see this guy is messed up.

  • @Ming3484
    @Ming3484 10 месяцев назад +2

    The Ryan Waller case is maddening and heartbreaking at the same time.
    I would have loved to watch Bruce Rivers full interrogation reaction to this case.

  • @tjm11015
    @tjm11015 Год назад +15

    I watched the entire Ryan Waller interrogation when it happened and they grilled him, talked down to him, teased him, told him he was a piece of shit, for SIX FCKN HOURS before realizing there was a bullet hole in his eye socket. It was one of the most disturbing things I've seen in 40 years of criminal behavior, and when I say "disturbing criminal", I mean the "detective"..🧐

  • @foreverwander0320
    @foreverwander0320 Год назад +8

    The interview with the 18 year old shot in the head always makes me want to cry. He was suffering but and that cop didn’t care what could be wrong with him.

  • @cheshirecat6518
    @cheshirecat6518 11 месяцев назад +4

    Same thing happened at my job. Guy came into work driving like he was drunk af...even ran into a light pole in the parking lot. And because the stuporvisor (intentional spelling) couldn't smell booze and the guy wasn't slurring his words, he was going to let him work! I had to call 911 on the sly. Turns out he'd had a stroke! 🤦‍♀️

    • @zubetp
      @zubetp 7 месяцев назад +1

      jesus, i'm so glad you did that.
      my grandpa had a stroke before i was born. i asked him last year what he remembered. he said he was brushing his teeth before bed when suddenly he heard a loud noise in the back of his head, like a rubber band snapping. and then suddenly he couldn't spit or swallow. he said he struggled to walk, and he stood in the middle of the bedroom trying to talk to my grandma, but he could hardly get words out.
      i'm glad my grandma was there and able to call for an ambulance. she saved him, just like you saved that guy.

  • @saurianwatcher4437
    @saurianwatcher4437 11 месяцев назад +8

    Guarantee the cop in that video of Ryan had exactly this thought process "he's not dead, so he couldnt have been shot, so I'm not getting him any medical attention, the pain will motivate his confession." Which is guaranteed a coerced confession if there was any reasonable justice, which admittedly is rare.

  • @TwistOfFate444
    @TwistOfFate444 Год назад +239

    Agree that cops should have a bachelors at minimum. It’s always amazed me we need post graduate degrees to even work with animals at a zoo ffs, but many PDs only require a H.S. Diploma.

    • @mattrolih1550
      @mattrolih1550 Год назад +23

      I disagree!!!
      A degree doesn't equate to intelligence!!!
      A degree is a piece of paper!
      If we have lacking of intelligence issue, make the tests substantially adequate to the knowledge to perform the basics!
      I've met more intelligent people serving enlisted in the infantry who have higher IQs than most officers.
      They are accepted into special units because they were qualified and passed the assessments to ensure a level of progression!!
      We were pushed to achieve and obtain degrees. We all did.
      However, I know way to many people who have degrees and can't complete entry level job expectations. They are responsible for those employees and have zero idea of ability to perform the employees job!
      A degree is as useful as toilet paper. I wasted so much time to achieve so much!
      I don't hire people off of their degrees!!!
      I hire them for their professional attitude, ability to complete required tasks and arrive 15 minutes before their shift!!!
      I have more problems with people with degrees, assuming that piece of paper makes them special and superior to truly intelligent individuals who meet tasks before the deadline!!!

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Год назад +5

      Then we wouldn’t have cops. So what’s the solution for that?

    • @mattb6646
      @mattb6646 Год назад +6

      Alot of police departments do require a degree, but not all

    • @squakke
      @squakke Год назад +4

      In Australia you go to cop school for only 6 months 🤨

    • @mbrannon
      @mbrannon Год назад +18

      @@mattrolih1550 This is super embarrassing. You should be ashamed for thinking it and still going forward with typing it out.

  • @vincecallagher7636
    @vincecallagher7636 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you, I have been wanting to see those cuffs.

  • @Eyedunno
    @Eyedunno 11 месяцев назад +30

    The Ryan Waller case is horrifying. I've seen it covered on multiple true crime channels, but it infuriates me every time.

  • @ThatGreenGuy85
    @ThatGreenGuy85 11 месяцев назад +54

    That interrogator and his supervisor should both be charged with 1st degree murder and torture for what they did to Ryan.

    • @antonyslaughter
      @antonyslaughter 8 месяцев назад +1

      How was it premeditated

    • @ThatGreenGuy85
      @ThatGreenGuy85 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@antonyslaughter it went on for an hour, all the while they were consciously aware of what they were doing and thoughtfully choosing to do it. That constitutes premeditated.

    • @dergrimme9772
      @dergrimme9772 7 месяцев назад +5

      it´s at least negligent homicide

    • @quantumcomata105
      @quantumcomata105 6 месяцев назад

      They really killed him?

    • @Mws556
      @Mws556 6 месяцев назад

      Yes, yes, yes😮

  • @Katinahat293
    @Katinahat293 11 месяцев назад +3

    The “detective” that interrogated Ryan sure didn’t detect anything that mattered!! Wtf was he doing?! That man was giving incoherent responses and said repeatedly he was in pain and had been hurt. I’m in awe at the detectives idiocy

    • @zubetp
      @zubetp 7 месяцев назад

      he just had tunnel vision. detectives _have_ to learn to avoid coming into an investigation with a narrative already in mind. he went into that room already convinced of what happened, and he rejected anything that didn't comport with that narrative. to the point where he was willing to ignore a blatant medical emergency.
      it was mean. it was just cruel.
      i hope he's ashamed of himself. i hope he thinks about that wound and the sound of ryan's pleading for help every night of his life.

  • @lyndsayasia7939
    @lyndsayasia7939 Год назад +15

    I felt so bad for this kid that was shot in the eye. And denied him medical care was horrible

    • @TheNinnyfee
      @TheNinnyfee 10 месяцев назад +1

      That's basically torture and the reason why we have cameras everywhere.

  • @sonkien3
    @sonkien3 Год назад +92

    Bruce, I just hold an associate’s degree, but I 100% agree that officers should educated and trained better. You’re amazing but that doesn’t take away from the ones who aren’t.
    Edit: 1,00, no a billion percent that officers should be trained better.

    • @LightningDoesStrikeThrice
      @LightningDoesStrikeThrice Год назад +10

      Right? Same with defunding the police; if anything fund them more like we do our military & I think we'd see a vast drop in bs like this

    • @bec7080
      @bec7080 Год назад +4

      I think an associates degree is enough for many jobs. Just like no degree is enough for many jobs. But police have so many people's life in their hands EVERY day.

    • @hopefulhuman
      @hopefulhuman Год назад +6

      I don't think a traditional degree is required to be a police officer. They should get more training on mental health issues, de-escalation techniques, empathy, listening, helping, and not being judgemental. That isn't learned through traditional education.

    • @Br0nto5aurus
      @Br0nto5aurus Год назад +5

      They do need yo be trained better, but a majority of deaths in custody are due to a lack of empathy and basic human decency, not a lack of training. If someone is visibly injured and asks for medical attention, policy in any department is to get that person checked out. These officers elected to let him suffer because they wanted to.

    • @bec7080
      @bec7080 Год назад +5

      @@Br0nto5aurus by requiring higher standards they will be required to pay more and hire a higher caliber of employee

  • @wanderlustqueen13
    @wanderlustqueen13 9 месяцев назад +3

    Training or not, seeing someone with a facial injury like that, acting like that, you get them checked out. Period. I feel so bad for Ryan and his family.

  • @niyablake
    @niyablake Год назад +211

    This is not a lack of training . That cop broke the law to close other cases . This cop is just evil

    • @stinga_
      @stinga_ Год назад +6

      Poor kid smh.

    • @buriedpet
      @buriedpet Год назад +25

      Absolute facts. That was NOT his first time. Every confession he ever acquired should be investigated for similar criminal misconduct.

    • @TheSovereign2011
      @TheSovereign2011 Год назад +6

      Yeah even if you absolutely can't believe someone could be alive after being shot in the eye, you have to then take his statement as delusion and get him help. He clearly has some head injury and is suffering. The cop is hoping to get info he couldn't get from a fit person

  • @greenbeagle13
    @greenbeagle13 Год назад +34

    You are spot on about the 4 year degree. Most departments only require a high school education or GED and they only have to be 18 years old, maybe 19 years old. Lack of maturity is HUGE. I can understand that it would be difficult to believe that he was actually shot in the eye (I would think he would be dead too), BUT... it's unreal that they didn't even have the medics check that guy out with that obvious injury. Wow. 😵‍💫 My BFF of 44 years died unexpectedly from a brain bleed in 2019 - saddest day of my life. 😢

    • @dirtinmyeye6505
      @dirtinmyeye6505 11 месяцев назад +2

      I am so sorry. My husband passed in 2019 for the same thing. Best wishes.

    • @thesingerintheshower
      @thesingerintheshower 11 месяцев назад +1

      💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

    • @Ghostridebuuyy
      @Ghostridebuuyy 11 месяцев назад

      Actually that's kinda wrong because there alot of great cops that don't have a four year degree and there doing well and technically advanced in the ranks you do need a degree , are you going to require a Pacific type of 4-year degree or just a 4-year degree . And also it depends on the state when you can start being a cop in Georgia it's 21 , My uncle is cop he has been doing it for 30 years he is the highest-ranking you can be without a degree, so your telling me if you make a law were you have to have a four year degree you know how many officers your losing and especially the good ones it's not practical , same with our military you know stupid it would be if you had to have a four-year degree to join the amount of time and money it will cost it's not practical because you can be trained for it without getting a degree even the medical stuff you don't need a degree how to understand medical stuff

    • @jonstone9741
      @jonstone9741 11 месяцев назад

      @@Ghostridebuuyy We wouldn't be losing any experienced cops currently working. They would be grandfathered in. The requirement of a 4-year degree would only affect new recruits.

    • @dresdners54
      @dresdners54 11 месяцев назад

      Absolutely agree that any le should have a 4 year degree! A 20 year old does not have the capacity to absorb laws, common sense, compassion and giving a firearm to an uneducated child is a disaster waiting to happen as I know of officers in our area. None of them have this type of education!!

  • @OceanSwimmer
    @OceanSwimmer 9 месяцев назад +2

    When someone is "in custody" -- it doesn't just mean they are in jail; there's an element of PROTECTION, which means the institution assumes responsibility for ensuring that the person receives appropriate CARE in the event of illness or injury.
    "If In Doubt --- Check It Out" is a good policy to keep in mind at all times.
    If a suspect appears sick or is acting strangely (slurred speech, staggering gait) GET THEM CHECKED OUT.
    Law Enforcement is an agency keeping the peace; it also includes helping victims get to a facility to be medically examined and treated.
    I agree, Bruce. Two additional years education could save lives, at the very least.
    A very sad story, especially for the victim's parents and extended family.
    What a nightmare!

    • @helgafrahmann4201
      @helgafrahmann4201 4 месяца назад

      Most cops does it! Suspects scream: i cant breath ! And the ems comes ! Or: i am bleeding! A unvisible bruise on the arm and cops call ems just for nothing!! Payed from my tax ! Such mistakes happen, if ppl lie! So god forbid us to lie, it is Dangerous! Dont allways lie to each other!

  • @philisbramlett6890
    @philisbramlett6890 Год назад +15

    As a nurse I wanted to reach out and throttle that non functioning brain of an officer and run with that poor man who obviously was suffering with a brain Injury! ! It broke my heart ,💔 .
    I'm so happy we have you. to see the justice in this tragedy for us through the eyes of a lawyer and true heart of a man's ❤ !

  • @emilyward4388
    @emilyward4388 11 месяцев назад +14

    This video is actually making me cry. Take the dude to the hospital and let the PROFESSIONALS be the ones to determine if he was shot in the eye! And then you can tell him all this bs! It’s so hard to see him struggling to form sentences. This is extremely painful to witness. And him saying “ouch my head hurts” when the cop touched his head made me bawl. This is a disgrace

  • @simoncollins69
    @simoncollins69 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bruce's gallows humor is so advanced. reminds me of my father

  • @busdriverguy
    @busdriverguy Год назад +6

    The fact the emt could immediately see there was a problem standing 10 ft away was pretty heart breaking

  • @brockjensen2473
    @brockjensen2473 11 месяцев назад +54

    My dad has been a police officer for 26 years before unfortunately being forced to retire a few months after he was diagnosed with ALS. For 17 years he was the chief of police in his city. The most frustrated I have ever seen my dad was in 2010 when he requested more grant money to get his officers further training. This request was denied repeatedly. He did everything he possibly could to make sure the officers of his department were trained and prepared for all different kind of potential interactions (deescalation training, risk assessment, etc.) but without funding there wasn't much he could do.
    4 or 5 years later one of the newer officers for his department made an error on a bad judgement call because he wasn't properly trained to handle a very stressful situation he was in. I'm not going to get into the mistake he made but it resulted in a lawsuit which was settled for an undisclosed amount. Instead of giving my dad extra funding to further train his officers the city ended up paying what should have been avoided entirely had the officer been through more training.

    • @Pimpernella
      @Pimpernella 7 месяцев назад

      Your dad seems like someone who was truly the right man for the job. I'm so sorry he got diagnosed with such a brutal disease. I'm from Belgium and the problem is a global one. We clearly need more people like your dad and I get you are very proud of him. Hope you are doing fine and I enjoyed reading about him. Wish I had a dad like yours. Take care. 🙋

  • @Henoik
    @Henoik Месяц назад +3

    I'm from Norway, and over here, all cops have a three year bachelors degree in policing. And the major subjects aren't weapon use or tactical stuff. The main subjects are communication and deescalation techniques, criminology, law, ethics, human rights. Because cops are first and foremost social workers.

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 11 месяцев назад +8

    We had an accident one time at our local pro ice hocky stadium. A spectator, a teenage girl was hit quite had in the head by a puck.
    The girl wasn.t knocked out and only complained that her head hurt. She seemed fine, she was not noticeably compromised and she wanted to go home.
    Before the girl and her mother got to their car the girl dropped dead right there.
    Head injuries can go from, "you're fine" to "you're dead really really quickly.

    • @pineapplegirl8078
      @pineapplegirl8078 8 месяцев назад +1

      Was that girl’s name Brittany? I’m pretty sure I remember that incident because my son was begging to play Pee Wee football when this happened and I was terrified. 😂 He’s 28 now and survived football, basketball and soccer all the way from 7 to graduation from HS. 😮‍💨

  • @Mellypepper
    @Mellypepper 11 месяцев назад +13

    The second one was infuriating to watch and exactly why qualified immunity needs to be gone. What a horror show.

  • @annanderson7
    @annanderson7 8 месяцев назад +1

    Just say you want a lawyer and be quiet! Your lawyer will thank you! 😂

  • @grahamcrackereatr
    @grahamcrackereatr Год назад +6

    perfect posting time michael!! just sat down after a looonnggg day

    • @Th3Watch3r
      @Th3Watch3r Год назад

      Enjoy your well earned relaxation!

  • @Jenna_xraydragon
    @Jenna_xraydragon Год назад +11

    Wow great show Bruce! I'm an xray tech with 7yrs in ER, seen some shit. He would go straight to CT for a head scan to pinpoint bullets/ frags. No MRI since it would be magnetized and dislodge. He should sue them for not taking him to hospital immediately. He could have died during interrogation!

    • @zach446
      @zach446 Год назад +6

      He died later from complications from the injury.

    • @orchid623
      @orchid623 Год назад +6

      And then his dad sued the police department, but the cop basically got a slap on the wrist 😡

    • @alexc9434
      @alexc9434 Год назад +3

      The kid died due to the interrogation. Cop got off lightly

  • @pattivirostek1390
    @pattivirostek1390 8 месяцев назад +1

    OMG! I love Bruce. He really cracks me up.

  • @omarra6781
    @omarra6781 Год назад +12

    I remember watching the story about Ryan. How heartbreaking. I understand not believing someone, especially when you are in a profession where the majority of people lie regularly, but with that big ol' black eye, the sluggishness, and strange speech...that should've been handled ASAP. Period.

    • @markbrown8097
      @markbrown8097 11 месяцев назад +4

      The biggest liars are the ones with the badges, who can legally lie.

    • @paytonyoder1260
      @paytonyoder1260 11 месяцев назад +1

      Ryan said that Heather hit him in the face. Sluggishness and strange speech are things that can be the result of being intoxicated, same with not remembering things. You run a scenario to see how people would react to it and you’ll get interpretations that the person is drunk dozens to hundreds of times more than a brain bleed.

  • @samanthaconn3895
    @samanthaconn3895 10 месяцев назад +1

    "That's,...uhhh....my little nephew Billy....come on Billy." 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kenanderson719
    @kenanderson719 11 месяцев назад +30

    EMTs learn a lot more now than they used to, by the way. I was a paramedic for twenty years, and I had a patient once who had been shot in the head. He had an entrance wound in the forehead and an exit wound in the back of his head. Because the scalp is highly vascular, there was a lot of blood. But, even though the location of the entrance and exit wounds would indicate that the bullet passed right through the center of his brain, he was conscious and alert and had vital signs that were pretty good. It didn't make sense to me, so I hung around the ER long enough to figure out what the story was. As it turned out, the bullet had struck his forehead at an angle that caused it to travel around the outside of his skull, exiting in the back of his head but without causing anything more than scalp damage. Some cops only get six months of training, and while many of them do later train as EMTs, EMT-Intermediates, or EMT-Paramedics, that isn't generally a part of their initial training. The one doing the interrogation should have been better educated, however.

    • @abasdarhon
      @abasdarhon 8 месяцев назад +1

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage

  • @chrispycryptic
    @chrispycryptic 10 месяцев назад +2

    I completely agree with you Bruce, there is a growing apprehension in going to academia. Mostly because of the expense, but the disillusionment is honestly a huge issue. A four year degree is not just the investment in a piece of paper, but the university actually teaches you _how_ to think. Our reality is an incredibly complex place, but there are people that dedicate their entire lives to understanding tiny little sections of our reality. It is through them that we are able to weave our own novel threads into humankind's tapestry of knowledge. It is an important blend of trust & skepticism required to make a a genuine contribution, but the journey is as beautiful you make it. The difference between a happy man and a sad man is simply perspective.

  • @shadow.banned
    @shadow.banned Год назад +16

    Most infuriating interrogation ever. Shot in the face and mocked by some bald clown.

  • @bumbling_bee
    @bumbling_bee 11 месяцев назад +5

    man im so glad you covered this video of Ryan, i remember the first time i watched it i was saying the same things, he obviously has an eye injury, why didnt they get him medical assistance first?! agreed, cops need a 4 year degree! thank you for covering this, your legal perspective is always appreciated!

  • @larrycarr6545
    @larrycarr6545 Месяц назад

    Bruce, just found your site. I’m impressed with the site and your knowledge. Hopefully I’ll never need you,mouth your knowledge is very helpful. Thanks!