The Ryan Waller case is so infuriating and heartbreaking, I almost turned this off when I saw it was being featured. This poor kid lost his girlfriend, FINALLY got medical care, and eventually succumbed to his injuries which was totally preventable, by all medical accounts. I hope that cop can't live with himself. He deserves no sympathy for his mishandling of this young man's life.
The fucked up part is that department probably never looked back on the incident. Any normal and proper place of work would be subject to an investigation, have arrests be made for a wrongful death, and special training done with everyone in the department.
@@stagger9660 That's right. I'd be very surprised if that department did anything but lament how unfair it was that the cop was fired because suspects lie every day. Umm.... he was CLEARLY wounded, CLEARLY unintelligible, and incoherent during most answers. Baseline is to have him checked out before further questioning!
16:10 "I just want to go to sleep" paired with the child-like inflections in his voice like he is just annoyed and genuinely wants to go night-night would immediately make me think they're in medical shock. especially with the obvious head injury. it's unacceptable that they didn't get medical care before interrogation
I'm an RN, 15 years, and it was painful to watch how Ryan was treated..he was showing blatant signs of neurological decompensation..it would have been so easy to just bring him to the ER for an evaluation..and by the way I now work in a jail after 15 years in critical care..and treating people with dignity doesn't mean you're "soft" on crime...
Years ago, a young college student in my town was at a house party when she fell off a 3rd story deck. She was inebriated, lying in the yard, screaming. The cops came and yanked her up and threw her in a cell overnight, no medical check. She screamed in agony on the floor of that cell all night and the cops would come tell her to shut the F up...all night long this went on, only to discover the next day that her back was broken. She was told she'd never walk again, but she fought and fought and was able to eventually use her legs, albeit with braces on them.
Sometimes, you gotta try to "speak the language" of the people on the other side, so to speak. So if they say it's "soft on crime" to make sure that people receive proper medical care, just remind them that the person can't serve their time if they're dead lmao (Which is definitely an appealing argument for the "I don't support the death penalty because that's letting them off easy" crowd lmfao)
@@farewelljupiter do you understand brain bleeds/brain damage at all? Time is absolutely critical. Every minute he's sitting there more of his brain is dying/being damaged. He probably would have survived longer with immediate treatment. He lived for a few years after, so it's pretty clear that when he received medical care DID make a difference.
You don’t need a medical degree to know that the second guy wasn’t medically fit to answer questions. Knowing that this kid lost his life due to this is disgusting
I worked with a nurse who worked at a jail when a patient was referred to her for evaluation. She had an AA degree. She cleared him to be put in a cell and he died during the night. He was complaining of severe abdominal pain. I suspect his aorta, liver or spleen got a tear. She had very good malpractice insurance and blamed the jailers for beating the guy and not telling her.. Fortunately he was wealthy and his family was able to pursue retribution. The nurse kept her license, the insurance paid, and a man died. Sickening.
The cop for the guy shot in the eye didn’t even do a basic pain assessment. Any pain level above 4 should be referred to an MD. The combination of confusion, sleepiness, and pain should alarm even a civilian.
I Agree u don't need college education...just Common Sense.. but Common Sense is so Uncommon it should be renamed the latter... that's what they should have classes on... but I guess u just can't teach someone Common Sense
The video about Ryan mixed up a small detail but makes it all the more horrific. Ryan hadn't been found after a few hours, he was found after over two days. For two days he had been struggling to survive right next to his girlfriends dead body, his brain injury made him believe that she was just asleep. When he finds out shes dead in the interrogation its heartbreaking. RIP Ryan
Thats what the cops say happened. But his girlfriends date of death on her headstone show the day of the interrogation as the same day she died. Theres a theory that the cops are lying about when their attack happened bc if he had been wondering around his home for two days after being shot in the face well then its not that bad that they help him for as long as they did without medical help some people believe that ryan and his girlfriend were shot this same day
@@stardustmelody2709the other detail not mentioned is that they let him sit in a cruiser for around 4 hours before taking him to the police station. Just heartbreaking.
@@Platinum907 Not at all. The problem with ‘bad’ policing is ego. A degree will just boost that ego and make the problem worse. They need more extensive training on relevant issues and de-escalation.
Ryan who got shot in the eye also sat in a police car for HOURS before the interrogation!! My deepest sympathies to his family and the family of Heather, who he did not shoot. I think it was apparent to 99.9% of us watching this that there was something terribly wrong with Ryan and he was in serious need of medical care. Tragic..
I saw a YT doc about this very case a year or so ago. When you get the full picture, the way the police responded makes more sense. They arrive to a dwelling to perform a welfare check. They find a dead woman who has been deceased for 2 days, and her boyfriend is there with a fresh black eye as if there was an altercation. Ryan, the boyfriend, appeared to be healthy aside from his black eye, and claimed that his dead girlfriend was asleep. He also claimed he didn't know what happened as he was also asleep. And so, because murders are almost always carried out by a family member or close acquaintance, Ryan became the prime suspect. At the station, when being questioned, Ryan brought up being shot. But from the cop's standpoint, it seemed like Ryan was engaging in the somewhat common practice of trying to make up an excuse for the murder he had apparently committed. As soon as the police realized the seriousness of Ryan's injury, they did exactly what they were supposed to do. They ceased questioning, and they got him treatment. Bruce seems like a nice guy, but he's just reacting to what his son is giving him. He doesn't have the full backstory, nor has he seen the full interrogation and body cam footage (literally hours of footage). And like us, he has the benefit of hindsight, since the clips were presented in such a way as to amplify the drama and horror of the situation.
@@ashleybushaw4071 Why would you get a medic to check a black eye with no other overt evidence of further damage? A single black eye is typically not indicative of a serious injury (unlike two black eyes, representing "racoon eyes" indicative of a basal skull fracture). It's the same reason why medics aren't usually called to examine suspects with other mild surface contusions.
My husband fell out of our attic and was unconscious for a few seconds. He wouldn't go to the ER, but I made him promise to see his GP the next morning, first thing. He ad an MRI and it showed everything was okay. Six weeks later, when he came home from work, I saw he was dragging his foot. I made him to back to his GP the next day. When he came home, he said he had an another MRI and they would call in the morning with the results. He called me at work and told me to meet him at a neurological surgeon's office because he had to have emergency brain surgery. I left work and got to the surgeon's office before he did. When he got there, the surgeon was talking to us and my husband wanted to know if we could go home to get his car home. The surgeon was dumbfounded. "You **DROVE** here?!?! No, you cannot go home, you are going across the street (the hospital was across the street) and we are doing brain surgery *NOW.* When he fell out of the attic, it started a very slow bleed. By the time he saw the brain surgeon, he had a *massive* subdural hematoma. One side of his brain had been pushed into the other side of his brain. Half of his skull was literally empty of brain matter. The doctor couldn't believe my husband was even alive, never mind working and driving. We were very lucky as the surgeon had helped develop the particular surgery my husband needed. He did tell me that once this surgery was done, he couldn't predict how my husband's brain would react. He wanted me to be aware it could be fatal or catastrophic as in, vegetative state, disabled, unable to use his bowels, paralyzed etc. When it was over, he told me I could go see my husband. I expected him to be on a ventilator and out. When I walked in the room, he was surrounded by giggling nurses. He was sitting up and flirting and joking with them. That's my boy! He is good looking, and is a hit with the ladies. But he has never had an affair. That could be because I told him before we married that if he ever had an affair, I would not divorce him, but I would make him wish he had stayed with his ex-wife, terrifying thought, indeed! Anyway, that was around twenty-five years ago and he is fine.
oh my god, you said "i got to the surgeon's office before he did," at first i thought that said "i got to the surgeon's office before he died." i had SUCH a pang of horror and sadness, and SUCH relief when i read on and realized he was okay 😂 i'm so glad you were able to make sure he got treatment. brain issues are no joke. i follow a lady on here whose husband got a bonk on the head trying to fix a fence, and it didn't even bug him that much at the time; but it turned out he had a concussion that caused overwhelming, chronic pain, fatigue, and headaches. after a year of trying different treatments, he eventually traveled out of canada to a brain specialist in the US. a year! from a fence post bumping into his head. that is crazy.
Cops have the right to do whatever they want because no matter what they do there is really no consequences. It’s always found justifiable no matter what they do. Out right murder, assault and battery, false arrest, it happens 99.7% of all cases. It takes massive protests and demonstrations to get one cop held accountable for murder but the cops will defame the victim to try swaying a jury at all costs.
At least he got convicted and sentenced. The majority of cop cases don’t even make it past preliminary. This “detective” will never get a job of authority ever again.
Man, the way the cops just ignored the guy with the gunshot wound is criminal, no empathy or concern for him whatsoever. Good video. Thanks for posting’! Cheers from H-Town!
That cop putting that kid through that is absolutely disgusting. Anyone with ANY SHRED of common sense should be able to tell he is seriously injured and needs medical attention urgently. I am so beyond disgusted by this, it’s making me sick.
Same and just sat back casually and put his hands on his dumb bald head like he was on a leisurely cruise or something I hope that cop is living every waking moment with a guilty conscience because he did not get enough prison time for his negligence a lot of cops are just trying to get their end quota or whatever else just to get paid or get off on it.... I was so disgusted by that cops behavior...what did he think that he put make up on his face?!?! As if he was lieing....broke my heart 😢
@chu7219 how would you feel if someone didn't get you medical treatment right away and you were slowly dieing and deteriorating I'm perfectly calm ....comments section is used for venting ....I'm physically disabled with a twisted spine and I had surgery fusing it with a lot of hardware seeing someone suffering hurts me too because I'm slowly suffering in pain too.... and I'm a female.... not a "buddy"
many, many, many police officers have been murdered by someone feining injury or sickness or mental incompacitation. Criminal Malingering: faking sickness for a alterior motive, is super common in police cases. i know you think you would do better if u were an officer but be careful that your self esteem doesnt cause derealization.
Engineer here. Your point on the humbling experience of college is something I experienced too. I finished my 4 year degree feeling less well equipped than when I started. That ego check is something I think everyone should go through.
Great point. College degrees, especially 4-year and above and in a stem subject are very humbling. This helps to explain why the best educated people rarely brag about their education. Instead, it's the ill-educated who have delusions of grandeur. I went back to university (after a 2-year clinical degree) and got my BA and MA in applied economics. Great education that has helped me get the most out of life.
@@Katrina-qs2rl I completely disagree. Some people are humble - some are not. I know great people who are very well educated, I know others that are arrogant asshats. This was not a matter of education it was a matter of humanity and empathy and no 4 year degree grants you those.
Yes sir, I felt like I didn’t know shit and I did well. Worked for five years as an engineer before I felt anywhere close to comfortable in the job. It really is eye opening.
Everytime I watch Ryan’s interrogation I feel physically sick. It doesn’t matter if the cop believed him or not, this man clearly has an injury and he’s claiming he was shot…there is absolutely no excuse to deny him medical attention. He was so ready to be “that guy” who solved the case that he sacrificed his morals and empathy to do so. He knew Ryan needed medical attention and intentionally denied him his right for almost a hour in the hopes he would just confess. It’s lazy detective work, and I hope he suffers from living with this guilt for the rest of his life.
I've seen it before and was just thinking the same thing, it both makes me physically sick and I can almost feel it in my eye and can understand being in states of confusion with people like that. When people don't understand the difference between someone that's confused and trying their best and someone that's knowingly lying. Makes me think of a time I was at the doctor for serious insomnia when I hadn't slept in 3 days straight, I forgot a card and had to get it then when I got back I couldn't recall where the doctors office I was in was at. It was a family friend I knew by his first name so rather than asking where Dr. _____'s room is I said his first name, this one woman there gave me such a smug condescending attitude about that and made a smart ass remark, something like "You're asking where a room is and you're standing right next to one" and it happened to be it. I almost lost my shit on her because I never did like her, just a disgusting person. Besides my dad could be so lacking in understanding or people think you're just making shit up or exaggerating when saying you haven't slept in 3 days and act frustrated and impatient with you when you seem irritable and confused. Also I broke my nose really badly in high school, a bone pierced the septum through an artery, they didn't know that until after 2 hours of sucking out blood clots in the ER and trying to cauterize the veins so I needed surgery. The school nurse tried telling me it wasn't broken and I could go home, if I'd done that the bleeding wouldn't have stopped. I was batting in softball in gym class and I got to first base then turned to look at 2nd and it got thrown so hard to first base and hit me. So much blood was pouring out I just cupped my hands and it filled up my hands in seconds, it slowed a lot after that but I lost a lot of blood. The kid that threw the ball almost got kicked out for rushing into a girl and knocking her over when he was running home than laughed about it, but it was days before graduation and they didn't want to interfere with that, so much negligence on the school's part.
As a nurse, that was incredibly hard to watch! 😢💔 I work with caregivers (no medical training). They would have called 911 immediately just on the facial injury alone. You were too kind. This police officer just didn't give a shit. It's just common sence to take him to ER for medical clearance prior to interrogation! OMG
Im an RN with 15 yrs experience in the hospital and now work in a jail...treating people with dignity doesnt mean you're "soft" on crime...this was painful to watch...Ryan was showing blatant signs of Neurological decompensation,,sleepiness, agitation, & confusion. It would have been so easy to just take him to the ER for an evaluation.
The pictures showed Ryan's injury was obviously a bullet wound, and the cop was close enough to see it. The cop had left him in the police car for hours before the interrogation began. The most disgusting thing is that the cop who ignored Ryan Weller's injury retired with a FULL PENSION. I'm from Phoenix and this case still horrifies and is one of the reasons the Feds are investigating corruption in law enforcement here.
That cop probably doesn't have many friends now either. And if he has any amount of conscience, what he failed to do for Ryan will play on his mind until his last breath.
Ryan's dad said the cop waited for a search warrant to enter AFTER he saw Heather's body on the floor. Then the bass turd waited for a locksmith to show up to unlock the door.
@@yourconnection9303Lol actually the cop who did that to Ryan has plenty of friends, and is currently enjoying his pension and likes to travel and go on vacation at least twice per year. The incident with Ryan had some pushback at first, but he’s been able to put it behind him, and has taken up gardening as a new hobby. Palm trees are his favorite 🌴
I have a traumatic brain injury, I've lived with this for 18 years. What the lawyer is saying in this video is absolutely 100% true. It's very frustrating I have to explain myself more than one time.
Jesus Christ. It's bad enough to just have ADHD and anxiety. TBIs can give symptoms like those disorders, right? Even worse because it's literal TRAUMA TO THE BRAIN. Explaining your condition to others in general must be aggravating. I had a coworker who survived a TBI and had to take just two classes at a time because it affected her comprehension and memory-building speed. She had accommodations that included someone taking notes for her as just listening and comprehending lectures was enough pressure on her brain. She was a straight A, high achieving person before the TBI and after struggled to voice her thinking. Interestingly she could write her thinking quite well once given that space. She needed things read to her alongside her reading things herself but her writing was more profound than before. All sorts of love dude. I don't intend to compare y’all’s experiences, just share a bit of understanding and support. I hope you have the supports and accomadations you are legally owed and a loving shield of friends and family.
@kariannstickle2708 Thank you so very much, I greatly appreciate everything that you have said. I have been struggling in college, and it does get frustrating because I know I can do better than that. I am not going to give up on myself. I am my own advocate and I am very proud of that.
Yeah, my dad had a very severe TBI and he was very irritable and prone to anger. Us in the family knew how to mitigate it, but people from outside could never get why he yelled all the time. And at seemingly random times. He also has a very similar way of speaking to Ryan. When I watched this video, I knew immediately based on the way he was speaking, and asking to go to sleep, that he had a very severe TBI.
@@Elliot-f6x dumb, arrogant cops tend to climb the ranks. And yeah, the city got a doctor to testify that the six hours they delayed treatment probably wouldn’t have helped him anyways, and a judge (that was probably in their pocket) agreed and dismissed the lawsuit
Fun Fact; police have been defunding all of us for years. Everytime you see a multimillion dollar lawsuit or settlement as a result of police incompetence, misconduct, or corruption, we the taxpayers pay for that, while the police avoid accountability for their abuse of power and authority, as these cops did
Corrupt cops as well since they make the most arrest. I know for a fact because the detective that arrested me and lied about everything is now the top cop in that town. This was before cameras and I'd love to know how much his arrest rates have changed since he's been required to wear one.
Ryan wallers case makes me sick to my stomach that poor kid I can’t imagine the pain and frustration from the cops mocking him while he was DYING IN FRONT OF THEM. Rest in peace Ryan
Ryan Waller's case was heartbreaking; even health classes in high school cover basic first aid which includes recognizing and treating shock. People who are very ill or badly injured cannot mentally operate normally; it's not surprising that Ryan didn't think to call 911 after he and his girlfriend were shot. The only surprising thing here is how the officer completely and repeatedly missed these screaming red flags that Ryan's confused and dazed responses were throwing out.
I've seen the case on another channel once before, and I think I'm going to skip it on this video, I don't want to watch him suffer again, that was just so awful 😢
So happy to know that you were an EMT and now an attorney! My Hubby started out as an EMT, now a Dr. I started out as an EMT as well, now an NP. The best life lessons I ever learned as in the that ambulance. Hard work, but your first glance assessment skills have to be spot on. I can see how that translate to law😊
Watching Ryan struggle broke my heart. I had a friend that got in a car accident and physically he looked fine and didn't want to go to the hospital, but a few hours later he started acting kind of like this. He would repeat himself multiple times in a few minutes, wasn't remembering this we just told him and kept asking us to just take him home to sleep. We took him to hospital instead and it turned out he had whiplash and a concussion. Even if these cops thought Ryan was this wacked out on drugs or something they should have realized he needed medical attention. I hope they're all rotting in jail.
They don’t believe he got shot in the eye when he has the blackest eye anyone has probably ever seen. You don’t need a 4 year degree to have common sense. Wow! They really failed this poor boy. RIP 🥀😢
In the actual pictures you can literally see the bullet hole. Those cops should've gone to prison. Just listening to him say one sentence you can tell something is wrong with him.
Ryan’s case: Tragic miracle. He’s dying as he speaks but he spoke the details needed in order to piece together the scene of events that led to the murder of Heather, and ultimately, himself, so that the perps were caught, tried, and convicted!
I actually really appreciate this slight silver lining perspective on the whole thing, because to be honest, I'm almost tearing up watching Ryan's story
Ryan’s case has haunted me for years. The severe lack of empathy from the cops, the bruising growing during the interrogation and the number of hours he was left to suffer not only in the interrogation room but in the cop car outside the crime scene. The life-long injuries and subsequent death from them and lack of medical treatment is awful. The family should have received something - anything - in way of compensation for how he was treated and how he was left to live the remainder of his life due to their incompetence.
The remainder of his life?.. those lifelong injuries were only hours. What happened to Ryan was heartbreaking and horrible. His family was denied any justice afterwards and that is sickening.
I remember watching the unedited version of Ryan Waller’s interrogation under the guise of a “faking insanity” title. After watching about the first 3 minutes, it became pretty clear that this person is experiencing some kind of major medical issue. It’s extremely uncomfortable and heartbreaking to watch because this interrogation is actually pretty long. There are a lot of people in the chain of custody who failed Ryan beyond this one interrogator.
I watched the whole long version of the stuff with the guy who got shot in the eye; that was beyond heartbreaking. Poor dude was the victim of a very violent crime, but treated like a malicious criminal.
I agree. I feel so much anger when i see that. My blood is still boiling! Hopefully he is able to sue. Although i do understand the dumb cop will probably never see any repercussions.
Yeah even if you absolutely can't believe someone could be alive after being shot in the eye, you have to then take his statement as delusion and get him help. He clearly has some head injury and is suffering. The cop is hoping to get info he couldn't get from a fit person
Ryan's situation breaks my heart. He's exhibiting all the classic signs of a head injury. Irritability, confusion, slurred speech and wanting to go to sleep. Not to mention the blatant appearance of his eye. That detective should have sent him to the ER before he even spoke a word to him.
I watched that entire interrogation of the kid that was shot in the eye. It was excruciating to see this young man clearly in pain & struggling to answer questions. When that officer stood up & saw the bullet hole, I was equal parts pissed & relieved!
The kid with the bullet wound to his eye was horrible to watch! I worked for our local PD for 13 years. If we arrested someone with visible injuries we would IMMEDIATELY 1. Have the fire/EMTs on scene 2. Send them to the hospital to be cleared. This is outrageous!! I hope the detectives were reprimanded for this. Absolutely egregious. At the least they should’ve been suspended without pay, upon return go through some retraining, then sit behind a desk pushing paper for a few months!!!! This young man hopefully sued the PD for this ignorant behavior!!! Oh, fyi, I have witnessed people with a gunshot to the head a few times and lived!!! It happens more than one would think!!!!
As a Finn, I'm glad that police academy is a 4-year degree comparable to university or polytechnic. After 2 years of academic studies, student officers begin ride-alongs with seasoned officers and by the time they graduate they have good knowledge of their field. As a result, the public trust in the police ranks among the highest in the world. I think the same model would work great in the US. Best wishes from a Finn in Vietnam. 🇫🇮 🇻🇳 ❤ 🇺🇸
Looking at the US as if it's Finland is erroneous. Each state is analogous to an independent EU member nation in terms of their legal sovereignty. The federal government of the US is more analogous to the EU, since it has strictly limited power over the States. A Finland-style police hiring standard would be nearly impossible to implement, due to how the US government's structure divides power between the local, state, and federal levels. The hiring standards of municipal police and local sheriff's deputies are going to be set locally, informed by municipal budgets and variations in law enforcement priority (big cities with higher crime need more police than rural towns with very low crime, for instance). State police will have their hiring standards set by lawmakers on the state level, and those standards tend to be quite high due to the nature of statewide criminal investigations. There are also federal law enforcement officers, although they aren't exactly thought of as police, and more like the strong arm of the current political powers. However, they have extremely high hiring standards, and it usually begins with a 4 year bachelors degree, with things like prior military service helping candidates stand out.
In Ireland it's a two year degree course with lectures, practical training and strict assessment, and also refreshers courses every so often after graduating. And our police force are by and large unarmed, except if they need to arrest a known violent criminal or in an operation targeting gang members, where the Armed Response Unit will be deployed.
Ryan and his girlfriend Heather were shot on December 23 and this interrogation is on December 26 after Ryan’s parents had called police for a wellness check. For 3 days , after being shot in the head, he didn’t remember what happened and thought Heather was just taking a nap…. not realizing Christmas came and went. He was treated absolutely terrible 😢 Rip Ryan and Heather And it was after being interrogated for more than 6 hours before he finally got medical attention…. Not 56 minutes!
I think he was in a cop car at the scene for 6 hours before even going to the station. I can’t even imagine. I sure hope this cop has faced some kind of repercussions. But he probably didn’t.
I’m only about 30 seconds into this video but I wanted to thank you for always putting out such great content. I’m having treatment and just lost my dad - it’s a pretty miserable time. Your videos give me an escape and make me laugh while the rest of my family sleeps. I love seeing your father/son relationship. Cherish it always 🤍
Just wanted to say that as ironic as it is, I just lost my Dad as well.. and weeks later we lost my husbands father... I'm an only child and my Dad was my best friend, so we are also going through some pretty miserable and difficult times right now.. but I love learning about law and LOVE Bruce and Michael's content always.. and especially, like you said, when the rest of my family is sleeping ❤ Anyhow, my condolences to you and hang in there.. thanks for sharing your personal and sensitive situation, and by doing so, letting me remember that I'm NOT alone.. and neither are you💯🙏🏽❤️
I'm so glad you covered Ryan's story. I have known about this case since it first happened. This detective was absolutely disgusting. Makes my stomach turn every time I see it.
Ryan did eventually die from the injury - it's so sad. He had part of his brain removed and lost an eye. He spent the end of his life being cared for by his family but eventually went into a seizure and died. He may have stood a better chance if he got appropriate care sooner. Something that breaks my heart is that when he heard his GF had died, he snapped out of the trance he was in and told the investigator everything. RIP Ryan ❤
Awww I didn't know he passed...this makes it even more difficult to watch this guy fk off that man's last mins of his "normal" life! Fkkkk it makes me FURIOUS 😢
This video made me actually nauseous for what they did to Ryan. I am sick. I am in awe of the stupidity of the officers. Shame. BTW- I love the Father & Son bond you have . I know you know it's priceless. Beautiful to see. Thank you for educating us and keeping us so engaged.
Ryan's situation is appalling to me. It just screams of callousness from overexposure due to their jobs but the man is wanting to go to sleep, has obvious injuries and bruising to his face with the same weapon his girlfriend was just murdered with. As someone in the medical field, it's disgusting and i hope he sued the HELL out of that department.
A world class attorney, huh? As far as I can tell, he's only licensed to practice in Minnesota, so at best he's a region-leading attorney. I'm sure he's a great litigator, but his main claim to fame is his self-promotional RUclips channel, not his "world class" law practice. And he obviously does it for the money and exposure. In the past few videos, he's also inadvertently offered misinformation. For example, he suggested brandishing a firearm prior to using deadly force in self defense (a HUGE no-no both legally and in terms of what concealed carry classes teach), he stated that ONLY a police officer can defeat a retention holster (anyone can if they know to press the buttons and/or flip the retention hood), and he stated that Smartguns can only be fired by the person who's fingerprint they are registered to (many RUclips videos on defeating smartgun sfaeguards). So it's not even particularly educational.
I am with you on Ryan's case. That one really pissed me off. that officer was out of line. You could see his eye was injured and he was saying outlandish things and yet he just ignored him. wtf??
At this moment the Victim was the prime Suspect, these cop have to deal with deceiptive, drugged or psychotic Persons quite often. No question that Ryan should have been examend at the scene and later when he showed strange behavior, but I guess dealing with criminals makes these cops hard-boiled and have less Emphaty for the Suspect.
When someone is "in custody" -- it doesn't just mean they are in jail; there's an element of PROTECTION, which means the institution assumes responsibility for ensuring that the person receives appropriate CARE in the event of illness or injury. "If In Doubt --- Check It Out" is a good policy to keep in mind at all times. If a suspect appears sick or is acting strangely (slurred speech, staggering gait) GET THEM CHECKED OUT. Law Enforcement is an agency keeping the peace; it also includes helping victims get to a facility to be medically examined and treated. I agree, Bruce. Two additional years education could save lives, at the very least. A very sad story, especially for the victim's parents and extended family. What a nightmare!
Most cops does it! Suspects scream: i cant breath ! And the ems comes ! Or: i am bleeding! A unvisible bruise on the arm and cops call ems just for nothing!! Payed from my tax ! Such mistakes happen, if ppl lie! So god forbid us to lie, it is Dangerous! Dont allways lie to each other!
Agree that cops should have a bachelors at minimum. It’s always amazed me we need post graduate degrees to even work with animals at a zoo ffs, but many PDs only require a H.S. Diploma.
I disagree!!! A degree doesn't equate to intelligence!!! A degree is a piece of paper! If we have lacking of intelligence issue, make the tests substantially adequate to the knowledge to perform the basics! I've met more intelligent people serving enlisted in the infantry who have higher IQs than most officers. They are accepted into special units because they were qualified and passed the assessments to ensure a level of progression!! We were pushed to achieve and obtain degrees. We all did. However, I know way to many people who have degrees and can't complete entry level job expectations. They are responsible for those employees and have zero idea of ability to perform the employees job! A degree is as useful as toilet paper. I wasted so much time to achieve so much! I don't hire people off of their degrees!!! I hire them for their professional attitude, ability to complete required tasks and arrive 15 minutes before their shift!!! I have more problems with people with degrees, assuming that piece of paper makes them special and superior to truly intelligent individuals who meet tasks before the deadline!!!
Poor Ryan! He was not making any sense at all. I had a concussion & had to take cognitive therapy. My speech slurred. I sounded drunk in the beginning of recovery. I felt mentally challenged at times & looked perfectly normal. It was extremely frustrating. I could not imagine being interrogated for 4 hours with two bullets in my eye. 😔 RIP Ryan. 🕊
Training or not, seeing someone with a facial injury like that, acting like that, you get them checked out. Period. I feel so bad for Ryan and his family.
I would love to see Bruce do a reaction on the whole video of Ryan's case. There is so much more to the story. It's a case that will leave you outraged, shocked and heartbroken.
I watched it and I wasn’t outraged or shocked at all. Ryan and Heather were drug users, who had burned Richie and his father for close to around $2000 worth of oxys & other various pain pills (Vicodin, norcos, etc.) To me it seems like more of a case or Karma catching up to these 2 addicts.
It mostly comes down to the ability of the victims to press legal action. These officers can be held fully accountable--the avenues are there--but it's up to the victims to navigate legal system and ensure justice is served. Not a lot of people can do that. This is a reason officers are more careless around the poor than the rich.
@@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- that and the fact officers have qualified immunity, and judges aren't likely to take it away. Honestly we need a constitutional amendment ensuring all levels of government have full legal consequences for their actions because a right without a remedy is not a right at all, but that's not going to happen.
Just the head injury behavior was enough to get him a CT scan immediately. That cop was disgusting. I can't imagine how much pain and confusion that poor kid was experiencing.
Listening to that innocent kid groaning in pain just makes my stomach turn. Those cops were negligent. Not believing he was shot in the eye, with the amount of obvious damage to his face is just sickening.
I didnt believe it too! Shot in the eye and go, speak, being wake , how coulld i believe it?? I can understand this cop and wish for him, he can be health from his trauma! My brother was killt from sn too fast cardriver, but he cross the street with his bike, and he doesnt look for a car and it was happen ! Who is guilty ? The fast driver or my brother, wwho doesnt look right and left?? No one knows it ! 😢the same with this poor cop: an unbelievible story , the typical behavior like a grumpy teeny , a blue eye, may be, his girlfriend beat him, the first normal behavior, but later suspicious behavior and then he realise, anywhat isnt normal .and he call for help! It look very normal for me, sorry!
thank you for your service. i hope that doesn't sound sarcastic. i think emt and ambulance drivers must have profoundly stressful jobs. i get stressed just trying to make a left turn at the speed limit.
I've seen the raw interrogation footage of Ryan, it gets harder to watch every time because I know how needless and prolonged his pain was. You're absolutely right when you say cops need a longer education.
Too many people these days think education is useless, so thank you for pointing out how dangerous that is for the people who have the power over our safety. I feel so sad for the young man whose medical care was seriously delayed, with no consequences.
I'm from Norway, and over here, all cops have a three year bachelors degree in policing. And the major subjects aren't weapon use or tactical stuff. The main subjects are communication and deescalation techniques, criminology, law, ethics, human rights. Because cops are first and foremost social workers.
My dad has been a police officer for 26 years before unfortunately being forced to retire a few months after he was diagnosed with ALS. For 17 years he was the chief of police in his city. The most frustrated I have ever seen my dad was in 2010 when he requested more grant money to get his officers further training. This request was denied repeatedly. He did everything he possibly could to make sure the officers of his department were trained and prepared for all different kind of potential interactions (deescalation training, risk assessment, etc.) but without funding there wasn't much he could do. 4 or 5 years later one of the newer officers for his department made an error on a bad judgement call because he wasn't properly trained to handle a very stressful situation he was in. I'm not going to get into the mistake he made but it resulted in a lawsuit which was settled for an undisclosed amount. Instead of giving my dad extra funding to further train his officers the city ended up paying what should have been avoided entirely had the officer been through more training.
Your dad seems like someone who was truly the right man for the job. I'm so sorry he got diagnosed with such a brutal disease. I'm from Belgium and the problem is a global one. We clearly need more people like your dad and I get you are very proud of him. Hope you are doing fine and I enjoyed reading about him. Wish I had a dad like yours. Take care. 🙋
I love, Bruce, how you fluidly move through providing information, to expressing compassion, outrage, and understanding, plus humor.....thanks for the entertaining video today, Michael and Bruce.
Bruce, just found your site. I’m impressed with the site and your knowledge. Hopefully I’ll never need you,mouth your knowledge is very helpful. Thanks!
As a Hospitalist-NP this is so hard to watch. I’m getting more and more anxious by the second. It is absolutely clear that this guy is not OK. I really home this cop and his colleagues face charges.
Guarantee the cop in that video of Ryan had exactly this thought process "he's not dead, so he couldnt have been shot, so I'm not getting him any medical attention, the pain will motivate his confession." Which is guaranteed a coerced confession if there was any reasonable justice, which admittedly is rare.
Thank you Bruce & Michael, for another great response. 😎 Insightful, humorous AND educational, your videos give me food for thought and genuine LOLs... so truly thanks. What you said about your former client being bribed with KFC - Something used to anger me - how the cops took the Parkland shooter to Burger King on the way to jail. (example of aforementioned food for thought.) Things that make you go hmmm...
The sad part about the guy that was shot in the head was that they interrogated him for 8 hours before he was transported for medical care. This led to him having irreversible brain damage and he had to have 24 hour care for the rest of his life. He died from complications from these injuries years later.
@@horacesheffield7367the case was dismissed due to corruption. Of course the city didn't want to be held liable so they made outrageous claims which an expert neurosurgeon has refuted. Ie. They LIED about not being at fault. After a brain injury like this, time is critical and the police delayed treatment for hours.
I love how you speak to your son. I don't have any real relationship with my dad and it's great to see how much love you and your son have for each other
For me it look first like a grumpy teeny, who feel uncomfortable and pissed , normal! Later i saw, anywhat isnt ok ! Then he get help!! Shame, that the cop hasnt xray eyes or he wasnt a clairvoyant !!! 😢 Blue eye could come from sport, accident with a door, ....
Imagine if that young man was your family member and being treated this way by this detective! Devastating! The cop deserves more than a few years behind bars!
@@MellypepperHow disgusting!!!! Hopefully people who know this detective will see this and know what a real POS he was/is!!! Definitely no empathy there!!
@@leebrock4783 He didn't. The dude who did the video that Bruce was reacting to got LOTS of stuff wrong. The cops weren't punished in any way. Ryan's dad didn't even sue them, that's also wrong. He said suing them wouldn't bring his son back.
@iulia.bianca.b I get not reopening the wound, per se, but there was a serious opportunity for justice that could have had impact on all departments departments nationwide
The interview with the 18 year old shot in the head always makes me want to cry. He was suffering but and that cop didn’t care what could be wrong with him.
Bruce, I just hold an associate’s degree, but I 100% agree that officers should educated and trained better. You’re amazing but that doesn’t take away from the ones who aren’t. Edit: 1,00, no a billion percent that officers should be trained better.
I think an associates degree is enough for many jobs. Just like no degree is enough for many jobs. But police have so many people's life in their hands EVERY day.
I don't think a traditional degree is required to be a police officer. They should get more training on mental health issues, de-escalation techniques, empathy, listening, helping, and not being judgemental. That isn't learned through traditional education.
They do need yo be trained better, but a majority of deaths in custody are due to a lack of empathy and basic human decency, not a lack of training. If someone is visibly injured and asks for medical attention, policy in any department is to get that person checked out. These officers elected to let him suffer because they wanted to.
@@antonyslaughter it went on for an hour, all the while they were consciously aware of what they were doing and thoughtfully choosing to do it. That constitutes premeditated.
You are spot on about the 4 year degree. Most departments only require a high school education or GED and they only have to be 18 years old, maybe 19 years old. Lack of maturity is HUGE. I can understand that it would be difficult to believe that he was actually shot in the eye (I would think he would be dead too), BUT... it's unreal that they didn't even have the medics check that guy out with that obvious injury. Wow. 😵💫 My BFF of 44 years died unexpectedly from a brain bleed in 2019 - saddest day of my life. 😢
Actually that's kinda wrong because there alot of great cops that don't have a four year degree and there doing well and technically advanced in the ranks you do need a degree , are you going to require a Pacific type of 4-year degree or just a 4-year degree . And also it depends on the state when you can start being a cop in Georgia it's 21 , My uncle is cop he has been doing it for 30 years he is the highest-ranking you can be without a degree, so your telling me if you make a law were you have to have a four year degree you know how many officers your losing and especially the good ones it's not practical , same with our military you know stupid it would be if you had to have a four-year degree to join the amount of time and money it will cost it's not practical because you can be trained for it without getting a degree even the medical stuff you don't need a degree how to understand medical stuff
@@Ghostridebuuyy We wouldn't be losing any experienced cops currently working. They would be grandfathered in. The requirement of a 4-year degree would only affect new recruits.
Absolutely agree that any le should have a 4 year degree! A 20 year old does not have the capacity to absorb laws, common sense, compassion and giving a firearm to an uneducated child is a disaster waiting to happen as I know of officers in our area. None of them have this type of education!!
I watched the entire Ryan Waller interrogation when it happened and they grilled him, talked down to him, teased him, told him he was a piece of shit, for SIX FCKN HOURS before realizing there was a bullet hole in his eye socket. It was one of the most disturbing things I've seen in 40 years of criminal behavior, and when I say "disturbing criminal", I mean the "detective"..🧐
Awesome video! I LOVE that you referenced phineas gage - it was my first thought! such a completely crazy case but he survived for several years after!
he even traveled; but he struggled to find work, is the issue. he was a hard worker, but he was inconsistent and by most accounts difficult to work with. which is a shame - he was very friendly and well liked before the incident. i wonder how much of it was brain damage and how much of it may have been trauma from having his head blown open lol.
The Ryan Waller case is maddening and heartbreaking at the same time. I would have loved to watch Bruce Rivers full interrogation reaction to this case.
This video is actually making me cry. Take the dude to the hospital and let the PROFESSIONALS be the ones to determine if he was shot in the eye! And then you can tell him all this bs! It’s so hard to see him struggling to form sentences. This is extremely painful to witness. And him saying “ouch my head hurts” when the cop touched his head made me bawl. This is a disgrace
The fact u brought up Phineas Gage makes me love u even more. Wrote a paper in college on him. Crazy story not many people know about. Bruce is just a dude spitting facts and knowledge through the internet
As a nurse I wanted to reach out and throttle that non functioning brain of an officer and run with that poor man who obviously was suffering with a brain Injury! ! It broke my heart ,💔 . I'm so happy we have you. to see the justice in this tragedy for us through the eyes of a lawyer and true heart of a man's ❤ !
I remember watching the story about Ryan. How heartbreaking. I understand not believing someone, especially when you are in a profession where the majority of people lie regularly, but with that big ol' black eye, the sluggishness, and strange speech...that should've been handled ASAP. Period.
Ryan said that Heather hit him in the face. Sluggishness and strange speech are things that can be the result of being intoxicated, same with not remembering things. You run a scenario to see how people would react to it and you’ll get interpretations that the person is drunk dozens to hundreds of times more than a brain bleed.
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The Ryan Waller case is so infuriating and heartbreaking, I almost turned this off when I saw it was being featured. This poor kid lost his girlfriend, FINALLY got medical care, and eventually succumbed to his injuries which was totally preventable, by all medical accounts. I hope that cop can't live with himself. He deserves no sympathy for his mishandling of this young man's life.
The fucked up part is that department probably never looked back on the incident. Any normal and proper place of work would be subject to an investigation, have arrests be made for a wrongful death, and special training done with everyone in the department.
It remains the worst case of police incompetence ever
How is the cop looking at him and not seeing the wound???
@@gabehayes1833 Exactly! Gross incompetence is the apt description. It's just heartbreaking.
@@stagger9660 That's right. I'd be very surprised if that department did anything but lament how unfair it was that the cop was fired because suspects lie every day. Umm.... he was CLEARLY wounded, CLEARLY unintelligible, and incoherent during most answers. Baseline is to have him checked out before further questioning!
16:10 "I just want to go to sleep" paired with the child-like inflections in his voice like he is just annoyed and genuinely wants to go night-night would immediately make me think they're in medical shock. especially with the obvious head injury. it's unacceptable that they didn't get medical care before interrogation
Shit just the simple fact his eye was black should have been enough to get him checked out tbh.
I'm an RN, 15 years, and it was painful to watch how Ryan was treated..he was showing blatant signs of neurological decompensation..it would have been so easy to just bring him to the ER for an evaluation..and by the way I now work in a jail after 15 years in critical care..and treating people with dignity doesn't mean you're "soft" on crime...
Thank you❤
Years ago, a young college student in my town was at a house party when she fell off a 3rd story deck. She was inebriated, lying in the yard, screaming. The cops came and yanked her up and threw her in a cell overnight, no medical check. She screamed in agony on the floor of that cell all night and the cops would come tell her to shut the F up...all night long this went on, only to discover the next day that her back was broken. She was told she'd never walk again, but she fought and fought and was able to eventually use her legs, albeit with braces on them.
Sometimes, you gotta try to "speak the language" of the people on the other side, so to speak.
So if they say it's "soft on crime" to make sure that people receive proper medical care, just remind them that the person can't serve their time if they're dead lmao (Which is definitely an appealing argument for the "I don't support the death penalty because that's letting them off easy" crowd lmfao)
He’d still be dead
@@farewelljupiter do you understand brain bleeds/brain damage at all? Time is absolutely critical. Every minute he's sitting there more of his brain is dying/being damaged. He probably would have survived longer with immediate treatment. He lived for a few years after, so it's pretty clear that when he received medical care DID make a difference.
You don’t need a medical degree to know that the second guy wasn’t medically fit to answer questions. Knowing that this kid lost his life due to this is disgusting
I worked with a nurse who worked at a jail when a patient was referred to her for evaluation. She had an AA degree. She cleared him to be put in a cell and he died during the night. He was complaining of severe abdominal pain. I suspect his aorta, liver or spleen got a tear. She had very good malpractice insurance and blamed the jailers for beating the guy and not telling her.. Fortunately he was wealthy and his family was able to pursue retribution. The nurse kept her license, the insurance paid, and a man died. Sickening.
The cop for the guy shot in the eye didn’t even do a basic pain assessment. Any pain level above 4 should be referred to an MD. The combination of confusion, sleepiness, and pain should alarm even a civilian.
Omfg I haven’t finished this and didn’t know he died. Thanks for the head’s up. I’m so mortified.
Exactly. This guy was incompetent. A 4 year degree wouldn’t fix that.
I Agree u don't need college education...just Common Sense.. but Common Sense is so Uncommon it should be renamed the latter... that's what they should have classes on... but I guess u just can't teach someone Common Sense
The video about Ryan mixed up a small detail but makes it all the more horrific. Ryan hadn't been found after a few hours, he was found after over two days. For two days he had been struggling to survive right next to his girlfriends dead body, his brain injury made him believe that she was just asleep. When he finds out shes dead in the interrogation its heartbreaking. RIP Ryan
That's probably why the cop only got three years.
Wow. That is unconscionable. Poor kid!
Thats what the cops say happened. But his girlfriends date of death on her headstone show the day of the interrogation as the same day she died. Theres a theory that the cops are lying about when their attack happened bc if he had been wondering around his home for two days after being shot in the face well then its not that bad that they help him for as long as they did without medical help some people believe that ryan and his girlfriend were shot this same day
@@stardustmelody2709the other detail not mentioned is that they let him sit in a cruiser for around 4 hours before taking him to the police station. Just heartbreaking.
WHATT! omg
As one of the posters said, it's not lack of education, it's lack of empathy. Absolutely despicable.
It’s Both.
@@Platinum907 Not at all. The problem with ‘bad’ policing is ego. A degree will just boost that ego and make the problem worse.
They need more extensive training on relevant issues and de-escalation.
Ryan who got shot in the eye also sat in a police car for HOURS before the interrogation!! My deepest sympathies to his family and the family of Heather, who he did not shoot. I think it was apparent to 99.9% of us watching this that there was something terribly wrong with Ryan and he was in serious need of medical care. Tragic..
If I wasn't given the backstory first I would not believe he was on deaths doorstep, especially from a double gunshot to the brain.
I saw a YT doc about this very case a year or so ago. When you get the full picture, the way the police responded makes more sense. They arrive to a dwelling to perform a welfare check. They find a dead woman who has been deceased for 2 days, and her boyfriend is there with a fresh black eye as if there was an altercation. Ryan, the boyfriend, appeared to be healthy aside from his black eye, and claimed that his dead girlfriend was asleep. He also claimed he didn't know what happened as he was also asleep. And so, because murders are almost always carried out by a family member or close acquaintance, Ryan became the prime suspect. At the station, when being questioned, Ryan brought up being shot. But from the cop's standpoint, it seemed like Ryan was engaging in the somewhat common practice of trying to make up an excuse for the murder he had apparently committed.
As soon as the police realized the seriousness of Ryan's injury, they did exactly what they were supposed to do. They ceased questioning, and they got him treatment.
Bruce seems like a nice guy, but he's just reacting to what his son is giving him. He doesn't have the full backstory, nor has he seen the full interrogation and body cam footage (literally hours of footage). And like us, he has the benefit of hindsight, since the clips were presented in such a way as to amplify the drama and horror of the situation.
@@theKashConnoisseurIt takes mere minutes to get someone checked out by a medic. What's your excuse for that?
@@ashleybushaw4071 Why would you get a medic to check a black eye with no other overt evidence of further damage? A single black eye is typically not indicative of a serious injury (unlike two black eyes, representing "racoon eyes" indicative of a basal skull fracture). It's the same reason why medics aren't usually called to examine suspects with other mild surface contusions.
@@theKashConnoisseur That's more than your basic black eye. Sorry you can't see the obvious 🤷♀️
The story of Ryan Waller is so tragic. The interrogation is just insane. So sad.
It is incredibly heartbreaking.
My husband fell out of our attic and was unconscious for a few seconds. He wouldn't go to the ER, but I made him promise to see his GP the next morning, first thing. He ad an MRI and it showed everything was okay. Six weeks later, when he came home from work, I saw he was dragging his foot. I made him to back to his GP the next day. When he came home, he said he had an another MRI and they would call in the morning with the results.
He called me at work and told me to meet him at a neurological surgeon's office because he had to have emergency brain surgery. I left work and got to the surgeon's office before he did. When he got there, the surgeon was talking to us and my husband wanted to know if we could go home to get his car home. The surgeon was dumbfounded. "You **DROVE** here?!?! No, you cannot go home, you are going across the street (the hospital was across the street) and we are doing brain surgery *NOW.*
When he fell out of the attic, it started a very slow bleed. By the time he saw the brain surgeon, he had a *massive* subdural hematoma. One side of his brain had been pushed into the other side of his brain. Half of his skull was literally empty of brain matter. The doctor couldn't believe my husband was even alive, never mind working and driving.
We were very lucky as the surgeon had helped develop the particular surgery my husband needed. He did tell me that once this surgery was done, he couldn't predict how my husband's brain would react. He wanted me to be aware it could be fatal or catastrophic as in, vegetative state, disabled, unable to use his bowels, paralyzed etc.
When it was over, he told me I could go see my husband. I expected him to be on a ventilator and out. When I walked in the room, he was surrounded by giggling nurses. He was sitting up and flirting and joking with them. That's my boy! He is good looking, and is a hit with the ladies. But he has never had an affair. That could be because I told him before we married that if he ever had an affair, I would not divorce him, but I would make him wish he had stayed with his ex-wife, terrifying thought, indeed!
Anyway, that was around twenty-five years ago and he is fine.
Thank you for sharing! I bet hes glad he listened to you.
So glad he’s ok!!! That’s so crazy how serious brain injuries be but hidden all at the same time. Terrifying. So happy it had a good ending!!🙏
oh my god, you said "i got to the surgeon's office before he did," at first i thought that said "i got to the surgeon's office before he died."
i had SUCH a pang of horror and sadness, and SUCH relief when i read on and realized he was okay 😂 i'm so glad you were able to make sure he got treatment. brain issues are no joke.
i follow a lady on here whose husband got a bonk on the head trying to fix a fence, and it didn't even bug him that much at the time; but it turned out he had a concussion that caused overwhelming, chronic pain, fatigue, and headaches. after a year of trying different treatments, he eventually traveled out of canada to a brain specialist in the US.
a year! from a fence post bumping into his head. that is crazy.
I was about to start crying ... So happy he is fine and able to innocently flirt...... He's back😅....
Blessings
That was so hard to watch Ryan struggle. It’s amazing how well he held himself together. Any amount of empathy from the detective could’ve saved him.
I don’t think any video has ever made me more uncomfortable than this video of Ryan. Absolutely heartbreaking.
Very! 😢it’s so frustrating and aggravating.
Agree. They were found to have not delayed any issue or injury. Go figure. This needs to be reopened.
That interrogator went beyond negligent to being cruel to Ryan... I'm speechless 😮
Cops have the right to do whatever they want because no matter what they do there is really no consequences. It’s always found justifiable no matter what they do. Out right murder, assault and battery, false arrest, it happens 99.7% of all cases. It takes massive protests and demonstrations to get one cop held accountable for murder but the cops will defame the victim to try swaying a jury at all costs.
I've seen everything online (barring kid stuff) but this just made me so weird inside. My fingertips went numb the first time I saw it
That cop needs to be in prison for so much longer. What a joke of a human
Correction. That detective is feces of a donkey and not a human being.
At least he got convicted and sentenced. The majority of cop cases don’t even make it past preliminary. This “detective” will never get a job of authority ever again.
Man, the way the cops just ignored the guy with the gunshot wound is criminal, no empathy or concern for him whatsoever. Good video. Thanks for posting’! Cheers from H-Town!
That cop putting that kid through that is absolutely disgusting. Anyone with ANY SHRED of common sense should be able to tell he is seriously injured and needs medical attention urgently. I am so beyond disgusted by this, it’s making me sick.
Same and just sat back casually and put his hands on his dumb bald head like he was on a leisurely cruise or something I hope that cop is living every waking moment with a guilty conscience because he did not get enough prison time for his negligence a lot of cops are just trying to get their end quota or whatever else just to get paid or get off on it.... I was so disgusted by that cops behavior...what did he think that he put make up on his face?!?! As if he was lieing....broke my heart 😢
@@HyeMaidenCalm down buddy
The cops had already decided he was guilty and treated him accordingly.
@chu7219 how would you feel if someone didn't get you medical treatment right away and you were slowly dieing and deteriorating I'm perfectly calm ....comments section is used for venting ....I'm physically disabled with a twisted spine and I had surgery fusing it with a lot of hardware seeing someone suffering hurts me too because I'm slowly suffering in pain too.... and I'm a female.... not a "buddy"
many, many, many police officers have been murdered by someone feining injury or sickness or mental incompacitation. Criminal Malingering: faking sickness for a alterior motive, is super common in police cases. i know you think you would do better if u were an officer but be careful that your self esteem doesnt cause derealization.
Engineer here. Your point on the humbling experience of college is something I experienced too. I finished my 4 year degree feeling less well equipped than when I started. That ego check is something I think everyone should go through.
Great point. College degrees, especially 4-year and above and in a stem subject are very humbling. This helps to explain why the best educated people rarely brag about their education. Instead, it's the ill-educated who have delusions of grandeur. I went back to university (after a 2-year clinical degree) and got my BA and MA in applied economics. Great education that has helped me get the most out of life.
@@Katrina-qs2rl I completely disagree. Some people are humble - some are not. I know great people who are very well educated, I know others that are arrogant asshats. This was not a matter of education it was a matter of humanity and empathy and no 4 year degree grants you those.
Yes sir, I felt like I didn’t know shit and I did well. Worked for five years as an engineer before I felt anywhere close to comfortable in the job. It really is eye opening.
Everytime I watch Ryan’s interrogation I feel physically sick. It doesn’t matter if the cop believed him or not, this man clearly has an injury and he’s claiming he was shot…there is absolutely no excuse to deny him medical attention. He was so ready to be “that guy” who solved the case that he sacrificed his morals and empathy to do so. He knew Ryan needed medical attention and intentionally denied him his right for almost a hour in the hopes he would just confess. It’s lazy detective work, and I hope he suffers from living with this guilt for the rest of his life.
Well said I agree!
As a cop he probably goes to bed easy
It literally made me a nervous wreck
I've seen it before and was just thinking the same thing, it both makes me physically sick and I can almost feel it in my eye and can understand being in states of confusion with people like that. When people don't understand the difference between someone that's confused and trying their best and someone that's knowingly lying.
Makes me think of a time I was at the doctor for serious insomnia when I hadn't slept in 3 days straight, I forgot a card and had to get it then when I got back I couldn't recall where the doctors office I was in was at. It was a family friend I knew by his first name so rather than asking where Dr. _____'s room is I said his first name, this one woman there gave me such a smug condescending attitude about that and made a smart ass remark, something like "You're asking where a room is and you're standing right next to one" and it happened to be it. I almost lost my shit on her because I never did like her, just a disgusting person. Besides my dad could be so lacking in understanding or people think you're just making shit up or exaggerating when saying you haven't slept in 3 days and act frustrated and impatient with you when you seem irritable and confused.
Also I broke my nose really badly in high school, a bone pierced the septum through an artery, they didn't know that until after 2 hours of sucking out blood clots in the ER and trying to cauterize the veins so I needed surgery. The school nurse tried telling me it wasn't broken and I could go home, if I'd done that the bleeding wouldn't have stopped. I was batting in softball in gym class and I got to first base then turned to look at 2nd and it got thrown so hard to first base and hit me. So much blood was pouring out I just cupped my hands and it filled up my hands in seconds, it slowed a lot after that but I lost a lot of blood. The kid that threw the ball almost got kicked out for rushing into a girl and knocking her over when he was running home than laughed about it, but it was days before graduation and they didn't want to interfere with that, so much negligence on the school's part.
Somebody please tell me that detective is no longer in law enforcement.
As a nurse, that was incredibly hard to watch! 😢💔 I work with caregivers (no medical training). They would have called 911 immediately just on the facial injury alone. You were too kind. This police officer just didn't give a shit. It's just common sence to take him to ER for medical clearance prior to interrogation! OMG
So true that’s what I commented about there’s no way that wld happen here so unprofessional
Im an RN with 15 yrs experience in the hospital and now work in a jail...treating people with dignity doesnt mean you're "soft" on crime...this was painful to watch...Ryan was showing blatant signs of Neurological decompensation,,sleepiness, agitation, & confusion. It would have been so easy to just take him to the ER for an evaluation.
The pictures showed Ryan's injury was obviously a bullet wound, and the cop was close enough to see it. The cop had left him in the police car for hours before the interrogation began. The most disgusting thing is that the cop who ignored Ryan Weller's injury retired with a FULL PENSION. I'm from Phoenix and this case still horrifies and is one of the reasons the Feds are investigating corruption in law enforcement here.
That cop probably doesn't have many friends now either. And if he has any amount of conscience, what he failed to do for Ryan will play on his mind until his last breath.
Ryan's dad said the cop waited for a search warrant to enter AFTER he saw Heather's body on the floor. Then the bass turd waited for a locksmith to show up to unlock the door.
@@amusedBYfools how would the dad know that though?
This was from some of the interviews with the dad and he was referring to the reports made by the police. @@FrenkieWest32
@@yourconnection9303Lol actually the cop who did that to Ryan has plenty of friends, and is currently enjoying his pension and likes to travel and go on vacation at least twice per year. The incident with Ryan had some pushback at first, but he’s been able to put it behind him, and has taken up gardening as a new hobby. Palm trees are his favorite 🌴
I have a traumatic brain injury, I've lived with this for 18 years. What the lawyer is saying in this video is absolutely 100% true. It's very frustrating I have to explain myself more than one time.
Jesus Christ. It's bad enough to just have ADHD and anxiety. TBIs can give symptoms like those disorders, right? Even worse because it's literal TRAUMA TO THE BRAIN. Explaining your condition to others in general must be aggravating. I had a coworker who survived a TBI and had to take just two classes at a time because it affected her comprehension and memory-building speed. She had accommodations that included someone taking notes for her as just listening and comprehending lectures was enough pressure on her brain. She was a straight A, high achieving person before the TBI and after struggled to voice her thinking. Interestingly she could write her thinking quite well once given that space. She needed things read to her alongside her reading things herself but her writing was more profound than before.
All sorts of love dude. I don't intend to compare y’all’s experiences, just share a bit of understanding and support.
I hope you have the supports and accomadations you are legally owed and a loving shield of friends and family.
@kariannstickle2708 Thank you so very much, I greatly appreciate everything that you have said. I have been struggling in college, and it does get frustrating because I know I can do better than that. I am not going to give up on myself. I am my own advocate and I am very proud of that.
Yeah, my dad had a very severe TBI and he was very irritable and prone to anger. Us in the family knew how to mitigate it, but people from outside could never get why he yelled all the time. And at seemingly random times. He also has a very similar way of speaking to Ryan. When I watched this video, I knew immediately based on the way he was speaking, and asking to go to sleep, that he had a very severe TBI.
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@@tiffanypitts2668you should be very proud! It must be very hard to live with but you're doing great. More power to you Tiffany ❤
Simple.
The cuffs go on, you ask for an attorney.
Be polite.
Thank you, Bruce and Michael!
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It's infuriating to see such incompetent cops. 😡
You'd be even more infuriated knowing that the city colluded to prevent Ryan's family from suing the police.
@@rainzerdesu it doesn't surprise me really, but i appreciate the info. Thank you.
@@Elliot-f6x dumb, arrogant cops tend to climb the ranks. And yeah, the city got a doctor to testify that the six hours they delayed treatment probably wouldn’t have helped him anyways, and a judge (that was probably in their pocket) agreed and dismissed the lawsuit
Fun Fact; police have been defunding all of us for years. Everytime you see a multimillion dollar lawsuit or settlement as a result of police incompetence, misconduct, or corruption, we the taxpayers pay for that, while the police avoid accountability for their abuse of power and authority, as these cops did
Corrupt cops as well since they make the most arrest. I know for a fact because the detective that arrested me and lied about everything is now the top cop in that town. This was before cameras and I'd love to know how much his arrest rates have changed since he's been required to wear one.
Ryan wallers case makes me sick to my stomach that poor kid I can’t imagine the pain and frustration from the cops mocking him while he was DYING IN FRONT OF THEM. Rest in peace Ryan
I've seen this one with the kid getting shot in the eye before. And it is super painful to watch. So heartbreaking.
Ryan Waller's case was heartbreaking; even health classes in high school cover basic first aid which includes recognizing and treating shock. People who are very ill or badly injured cannot mentally operate normally; it's not surprising that Ryan didn't think to call 911 after he and his girlfriend were shot. The only surprising thing here is how the officer completely and repeatedly missed these screaming red flags that Ryan's confused and dazed responses were throwing out.
Yes!! The confused speech was a clear sign along with the damn GIANT wound on his fckin eye!!
This was very stressful to watch, I want to run and rescue him, how deeply sad ...
I've seen the case on another channel once before, and I think I'm going to skip it on this video, I don't want to watch him suffer again, that was just so awful 😢
I think the interrogator had a serious personality disorder because any random person would know the severity of Ryan's injury
Got to get that "confession" no matter what the truth is.😢
It should be mandatory that anyone with any kind of injury has to be fully cleared by a Dr. at the hospital before cops are allowed to interview them.
In most departments it is. It removes all liability.
It is
So happy to know that you were an EMT and now an attorney! My Hubby started out as an EMT, now a Dr. I started out as an EMT as well, now an NP. The best life lessons I ever learned as in the that ambulance. Hard work, but your first glance assessment skills have to be spot on. I can see how that translate to law😊
Watching Ryan struggle broke my heart. I had a friend that got in a car accident and physically he looked fine and didn't want to go to the hospital, but a few hours later he started acting kind of like this. He would repeat himself multiple times in a few minutes, wasn't remembering this we just told him and kept asking us to just take him home to sleep. We took him to hospital instead and it turned out he had whiplash and a concussion. Even if these cops thought Ryan was this wacked out on drugs or something they should have realized he needed medical attention. I hope they're all rotting in jail.
They don’t believe he got shot in the eye when he has the blackest eye anyone has probably ever seen. You don’t need a 4 year degree to have common sense. Wow! They really failed this poor boy. RIP 🥀😢
In the actual pictures you can literally see the bullet hole. Those cops should've gone to prison. Just listening to him say one sentence you can tell something is wrong with him.
Ryan’s case: Tragic miracle. He’s dying as he speaks but he spoke the details needed in order to piece together the scene of events that led to the murder of Heather, and ultimately, himself, so that the perps were caught, tried, and convicted!
I actually really appreciate this slight silver lining perspective on the whole thing, because to be honest, I'm almost tearing up watching Ryan's story
If I recall correctly he survived for like 10 years or something. Ultimately died from complications from this injury.
Ryan’s case has haunted me for years. The severe lack of empathy from the cops, the bruising growing during the interrogation and the number of hours he was left to suffer not only in the interrogation room but in the cop car outside the crime scene. The life-long injuries and subsequent death from them and lack of medical treatment is awful. The family should have received something - anything - in way of compensation for how he was treated and how he was left to live the remainder of his life due to their incompetence.
The remainder of his life?.. those lifelong injuries were only hours.
What happened to Ryan was heartbreaking and horrible. His family was denied any justice afterwards and that is sickening.
@@notme2day yes, remainder of his life. He died due to a seizure caused by the injuries years later.
@@sio_h1875 my apologies... a different video I watched implied he died hours later in hospital.
Thank you for pointing out my information was wrong.
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@notme2day593 if he died in the hospital from something hours ago, is still the remainder of his life😂😂😂
I remember watching the unedited version of Ryan Waller’s interrogation under the guise of a “faking insanity” title. After watching about the first 3 minutes, it became pretty clear that this person is experiencing some kind of major medical issue. It’s extremely uncomfortable and heartbreaking to watch because this interrogation is actually pretty long. There are a lot of people in the chain of custody who failed Ryan beyond this one interrogator.
fr anyone at the station he walked past could have called an ambulance
Do you know if this cop was at least fired or better yet fired
@@williamcoles4950someone commented the details on a comment above this one. No, there was no Justice.
Yeah watching his interrogation again was rough
@@louhortonsculpturenah, the cop got 3 years in prison.
I watched the whole long version of the stuff with the guy who got shot in the eye; that was beyond heartbreaking. Poor dude was the victim of a very violent crime, but treated like a malicious criminal.
AMAZING how cops have enough training when ur walking a line to judge impairment, but not enough in an interrogation room. This cop knew full well...
I agree. I feel so much anger when i see that. My blood is still boiling! Hopefully he is able to sue. Although i do understand the dumb cop will probably never see any repercussions.
@@Elliot-f6x. Their day is coming.
@@ThatGuy-mu2rr Truth!!
@@Elliot-f6x it's in the video
@@brucesmith1544 i certainly wrote the first comment before finishing the video. Three years? The kid died from that.
This is not a lack of training . That cop broke the law to close other cases . This cop is just evil
Poor kid smh.
Absolute facts. That was NOT his first time. Every confession he ever acquired should be investigated for similar criminal misconduct.
Yeah even if you absolutely can't believe someone could be alive after being shot in the eye, you have to then take his statement as delusion and get him help. He clearly has some head injury and is suffering. The cop is hoping to get info he couldn't get from a fit person
Ryan's situation breaks my heart. He's exhibiting all the classic signs of a head injury. Irritability, confusion, slurred speech and wanting to go to sleep. Not to mention the blatant appearance of his eye. That detective should have sent him to the ER before he even spoke a word to him.
I watched that entire interrogation of the kid that was shot in the eye. It was excruciating to see this young man clearly in pain & struggling to answer questions. When that officer stood up & saw the bullet hole, I was equal parts pissed & relieved!
Yes. He was clearly suffering further brain damage from the shot. The police failed that one.
Yeah, that video was a tough watch indeed. Hours of interrogation before it finally occurs to the detective to at least take a look himself.
The kid with the bullet wound to his eye was horrible to watch! I worked for our local PD for 13 years. If we arrested someone with visible injuries we would IMMEDIATELY 1. Have the fire/EMTs on scene 2. Send them to the hospital to be cleared. This is outrageous!! I hope the detectives were reprimanded for this. Absolutely egregious. At the least they should’ve been suspended without pay, upon return go through some retraining, then sit behind a desk pushing paper for a few months!!!! This young man hopefully sued the PD for this ignorant behavior!!! Oh, fyi, I have witnessed people with a gunshot to the head a few times and lived!!! It happens more than one would think!!!!
As a Finn, I'm glad that police academy is a 4-year degree comparable to university or polytechnic. After 2 years of academic studies, student officers begin ride-alongs with seasoned officers and by the time they graduate they have good knowledge of their field. As a result, the public trust in the police ranks among the highest in the world. I think the same model would work great in the US.
Best wishes from a Finn in Vietnam. 🇫🇮 🇻🇳 ❤ 🇺🇸
It wouldn't work in the US, they are too juvenile and impatient.
Looking at the US as if it's Finland is erroneous. Each state is analogous to an independent EU member nation in terms of their legal sovereignty. The federal government of the US is more analogous to the EU, since it has strictly limited power over the States.
A Finland-style police hiring standard would be nearly impossible to implement, due to how the US government's structure divides power between the local, state, and federal levels. The hiring standards of municipal police and local sheriff's deputies are going to be set locally, informed by municipal budgets and variations in law enforcement priority (big cities with higher crime need more police than rural towns with very low crime, for instance). State police will have their hiring standards set by lawmakers on the state level, and those standards tend to be quite high due to the nature of statewide criminal investigations. There are also federal law enforcement officers, although they aren't exactly thought of as police, and more like the strong arm of the current political powers. However, they have extremely high hiring standards, and it usually begins with a 4 year bachelors degree, with things like prior military service helping candidates stand out.
In North America. You apply, go to 6 month training camp. And then they give you a gun, a car, and the highest authority in everyday society.
@@boanless tfw you forget Canada and the US are both on the North American continent and have different standards of law.
In Ireland it's a two year degree course with lectures, practical training and strict assessment, and also refreshers courses every so often after graduating. And our police force are by and large unarmed, except if they need to arrest a known violent criminal or in an operation targeting gang members, where the Armed Response Unit will be deployed.
Ryan and his girlfriend Heather were shot on December 23 and this interrogation is on December 26 after Ryan’s parents had called police for a wellness check. For 3 days , after being shot in the head, he didn’t remember what happened and thought Heather was just taking a nap…. not realizing Christmas came and went. He was treated absolutely terrible 😢
Rip Ryan and Heather
And it was after being interrogated for more than 6 hours before he finally got medical attention…. Not 56 minutes!
Wow. 3 days went by. That could be another reason cop didn’t think he was shot. No excuse though. Ryan was clearly in need of medical attention.
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What happened to the cops?
I think he was in a cop car at the scene for 6 hours before even going to the station. I can’t even imagine. I sure hope this cop has faced some kind of repercussions. But he probably didn’t.
This is one of my favorite channels on RUclips. Bruce when you paused the video 25:25 and just look at camera 😂 and don’t say anything was perfect.
I’m only about 30 seconds into this video but I wanted to thank you for always putting out such great content. I’m having treatment and just lost my dad - it’s a pretty miserable time. Your videos give me an escape and make me laugh while the rest of my family sleeps. I love seeing your father/son relationship. Cherish it always 🤍
Just wanted to say that as ironic as it is, I just lost my Dad as well.. and weeks later we lost my husbands father... I'm an only child and my Dad was my best friend, so we are also going through some pretty miserable and difficult times right now.. but I love learning about law and LOVE Bruce and Michael's content always.. and especially, like you said, when the rest of my family is sleeping ❤ Anyhow, my condolences to you and hang in there.. thanks for sharing your personal and sensitive situation, and by doing so, letting me remember that I'm NOT alone.. and neither are you💯🙏🏽❤️
@@melissapeters9820😢 I’m so sorry..
I'm so very sorry about your loss. Prayers of strength and Guidance in these Turbulent times. 🙏
Lost my dad from cancer coming up on two years 😢 I feel for you
I am so sorry for your loss. And for your other struggles. I hope things get better soon, as better as they can be!❤
I'm so glad you covered Ryan's story. I have known about this case since it first happened. This detective was absolutely disgusting. Makes my stomach turn every time I see it.
Yeah, what a piece of shit. Some other commenters said he only got 3 years. I have no idea why cops are judged so leniently.
🇨🇦 absolutely ! 😰First it hurt my stomach and hurt my heart ,then I just felt fury😡
“When you dont know what you dont know, you think you know everything” a fucking bar
It's not lack of education. It's lack of empathy....
They do like hiring bullies
Absolutely! The general public in America seems to lack empathy, but cops are a step above that even.
Exactly! Inhuman behavior.
Yeah, I didn’t like Bruce’s take on Ryan’s interrogation. Felt like he was very eager to excuse the detective.
If there wasn’t such a lack of accountability, there would be more empathy .
Ryan did eventually die from the injury - it's so sad. He had part of his brain removed and lost an eye. He spent the end of his life being cared for by his family but eventually went into a seizure and died. He may have stood a better chance if he got appropriate care sooner. Something that breaks my heart is that when he heard his GF had died, he snapped out of the trance he was in and told the investigator everything. RIP Ryan ❤
He would have survived if not for the police.
Awww I didn't know he passed...this makes it even more difficult to watch this guy fk off that man's last mins of his "normal" life! Fkkkk it makes me FURIOUS 😢
Wow that’s so horrible 😢my god that cop I hope he realises he what he’s done! I can’t believe it
poor guy. the days after the attack was a total blur to him - he genuinely thought she was just sleeping.
It would be very heavy for me too, to believe this story!
I NEED to see some bloopers. 😂 😜 I have a feeling there’s a lot of LAUGHS AND F 💣.
I need to see it! 😂
This video made me actually nauseous for what they did to Ryan. I am sick. I am in awe of the stupidity of the officers. Shame. BTW- I love the Father & Son bond you have . I know you know it's priceless. Beautiful to see. Thank you for educating us and keeping us so engaged.
Ryan's situation is appalling to me. It just screams of callousness from overexposure due to their jobs but the man is wanting to go to sleep, has obvious injuries and bruising to his face with the same weapon his girlfriend was just murdered with. As someone in the medical field, it's disgusting and i hope he sued the HELL out of that department.
He died
Agree cops should require a 4 year degree. They have too much responsibility and too little education.
Nice job Michael 👍
can we all appreciate the fact a world class attorney takes hours out of his day to make videos like this educating us on law
A world class attorney, huh? As far as I can tell, he's only licensed to practice in Minnesota, so at best he's a region-leading attorney. I'm sure he's a great litigator, but his main claim to fame is his self-promotional RUclips channel, not his "world class" law practice. And he obviously does it for the money and exposure. In the past few videos, he's also inadvertently offered misinformation. For example, he suggested brandishing a firearm prior to using deadly force in self defense (a HUGE no-no both legally and in terms of what concealed carry classes teach), he stated that ONLY a police officer can defeat a retention holster (anyone can if they know to press the buttons and/or flip the retention hood), and he stated that Smartguns can only be fired by the person who's fingerprint they are registered to (many RUclips videos on defeating smartgun sfaeguards). So it's not even particularly educational.
@@theKashConnoisseursounds like u need a job bro
@@alexmason9397 I got one already but thanks for your concern lil bro.
can you give us the link
Well. Let's kiss his feet as he is so friggin rich! I do like him nevertheless even though he's a dweeb.
I am with you on Ryan's case. That one really pissed me off. that officer was out of line. You could see his eye was injured and he was saying outlandish things and yet he just ignored him. wtf??
At this moment the Victim was the prime Suspect, these cop have to deal with deceiptive, drugged or psychotic Persons quite often.
No question that Ryan should have been examend at the scene and later when he showed strange behavior, but I guess dealing with criminals makes these cops hard-boiled and have less Emphaty for the Suspect.
When someone is "in custody" -- it doesn't just mean they are in jail; there's an element of PROTECTION, which means the institution assumes responsibility for ensuring that the person receives appropriate CARE in the event of illness or injury.
"If In Doubt --- Check It Out" is a good policy to keep in mind at all times.
If a suspect appears sick or is acting strangely (slurred speech, staggering gait) GET THEM CHECKED OUT.
Law Enforcement is an agency keeping the peace; it also includes helping victims get to a facility to be medically examined and treated.
I agree, Bruce. Two additional years education could save lives, at the very least.
A very sad story, especially for the victim's parents and extended family.
What a nightmare!
Most cops does it! Suspects scream: i cant breath ! And the ems comes ! Or: i am bleeding! A unvisible bruise on the arm and cops call ems just for nothing!! Payed from my tax ! Such mistakes happen, if ppl lie! So god forbid us to lie, it is Dangerous! Dont allways lie to each other!
Agree that cops should have a bachelors at minimum. It’s always amazed me we need post graduate degrees to even work with animals at a zoo ffs, but many PDs only require a H.S. Diploma.
I disagree!!!
A degree doesn't equate to intelligence!!!
A degree is a piece of paper!
If we have lacking of intelligence issue, make the tests substantially adequate to the knowledge to perform the basics!
I've met more intelligent people serving enlisted in the infantry who have higher IQs than most officers.
They are accepted into special units because they were qualified and passed the assessments to ensure a level of progression!!
We were pushed to achieve and obtain degrees. We all did.
However, I know way to many people who have degrees and can't complete entry level job expectations. They are responsible for those employees and have zero idea of ability to perform the employees job!
A degree is as useful as toilet paper. I wasted so much time to achieve so much!
I don't hire people off of their degrees!!!
I hire them for their professional attitude, ability to complete required tasks and arrive 15 minutes before their shift!!!
I have more problems with people with degrees, assuming that piece of paper makes them special and superior to truly intelligent individuals who meet tasks before the deadline!!!
Then we wouldn’t have cops. So what’s the solution for that?
Alot of police departments do require a degree, but not all
In Australia you go to cop school for only 6 months 🤨
@@mattrolih1550 This is super embarrassing. You should be ashamed for thinking it and still going forward with typing it out.
Poor Ryan! He was not making any sense at all. I had a concussion & had to take cognitive therapy. My speech slurred. I sounded drunk in the beginning of recovery. I felt mentally challenged at times & looked perfectly normal. It was extremely frustrating. I could not imagine being interrogated for 4 hours with two bullets in my eye. 😔 RIP Ryan. 🕊
Training or not, seeing someone with a facial injury like that, acting like that, you get them checked out. Period. I feel so bad for Ryan and his family.
I would love to see Bruce do a reaction on the whole video of Ryan's case. There is so much more to the story. It's a case that will leave you outraged, shocked and heartbroken.
The interview w Ryan dad on THIS IS MONSTERS made me want to avoid Phoenix forever.
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Agreed!
I feel sick, but it's comforting to see how many people here in the comments have and are showing their empathy ❤️ 💗. 😢😢😢😢
I watched it and I wasn’t outraged or shocked at all. Ryan and Heather were drug users, who had burned Richie and his father for close to around $2000 worth of oxys & other various pain pills (Vicodin, norcos, etc.) To me it seems like more of a case or Karma catching up to these 2 addicts.
@@macysondheim who cares? $2,000 is not worth someone's life.
I know 3 years isn’t enough, but I’m surprised that detective got any time at all. Cops get away with worse it seems.
It mostly comes down to the ability of the victims to press legal action. These officers can be held fully accountable--the avenues are there--but it's up to the victims to navigate legal system and ensure justice is served. Not a lot of people can do that. This is a reason officers are more careless around the poor than the rich.
@@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- that and the fact officers have qualified immunity, and judges aren't likely to take it away. Honestly we need a constitutional amendment ensuring all levels of government have full legal consequences for their actions because a right without a remedy is not a right at all, but that's not going to happen.
Best cover on the internet. Not perfect, but raw and epic!!! Bravo sir!!
Just the head injury behavior was enough to get him a CT scan immediately. That cop was disgusting. I can't imagine how much pain and confusion that poor kid was experiencing.
Listening to that innocent kid groaning in pain just makes my stomach turn. Those cops were negligent. Not believing he was shot in the eye, with the amount of obvious damage to his face is just sickening.
I didnt believe it too! Shot in the eye and go, speak, being wake , how coulld i believe it?? I can understand this cop and wish for him, he can be health from his trauma! My brother was killt from sn too fast cardriver, but he cross the street with his bike, and he doesnt look for a car and it was happen ! Who is guilty ? The fast driver or my brother, wwho doesnt look right and left?? No one knows it ! 😢the same with this poor cop: an unbelievible story , the typical behavior like a grumpy teeny , a blue eye, may be, his girlfriend beat him, the first normal behavior, but later suspicious behavior and then he realise, anywhat isnt normal .and he call for help! It look very normal for me, sorry!
When I was an EMT we had training in GSWs and I used those skills during my time as a big metropolitan 911 ambulance service.
thank you for your service. i hope that doesn't sound sarcastic. i think emt and ambulance drivers must have profoundly stressful jobs. i get stressed just trying to make a left turn at the speed limit.
I've seen the raw interrogation footage of Ryan, it gets harder to watch every time because I know how needless and prolonged his pain was. You're absolutely right when you say cops need a longer education.
Lot of seizure and stroke victims get beaten up by cops
Too many people these days think education is useless, so thank you for pointing out how dangerous that is for the people who have the power over our safety. I feel so sad for the young man whose medical care was seriously delayed, with no consequences.
I'm from Norway, and over here, all cops have a three year bachelors degree in policing. And the major subjects aren't weapon use or tactical stuff. The main subjects are communication and deescalation techniques, criminology, law, ethics, human rights. Because cops are first and foremost social workers.
My dad has been a police officer for 26 years before unfortunately being forced to retire a few months after he was diagnosed with ALS. For 17 years he was the chief of police in his city. The most frustrated I have ever seen my dad was in 2010 when he requested more grant money to get his officers further training. This request was denied repeatedly. He did everything he possibly could to make sure the officers of his department were trained and prepared for all different kind of potential interactions (deescalation training, risk assessment, etc.) but without funding there wasn't much he could do.
4 or 5 years later one of the newer officers for his department made an error on a bad judgement call because he wasn't properly trained to handle a very stressful situation he was in. I'm not going to get into the mistake he made but it resulted in a lawsuit which was settled for an undisclosed amount. Instead of giving my dad extra funding to further train his officers the city ended up paying what should have been avoided entirely had the officer been through more training.
Your dad seems like someone who was truly the right man for the job. I'm so sorry he got diagnosed with such a brutal disease. I'm from Belgium and the problem is a global one. We clearly need more people like your dad and I get you are very proud of him. Hope you are doing fine and I enjoyed reading about him. Wish I had a dad like yours. Take care. 🙋
I love, Bruce, how you fluidly move through providing information, to expressing compassion, outrage, and understanding, plus humor.....thanks for the entertaining video today, Michael and Bruce.
I know he's a total pro and smooth talker I friggin love his reactions!! He's the reason I actually can't stop watching police interrogations lol 😅
Bruce, just found your site. I’m impressed with the site and your knowledge. Hopefully I’ll never need you,mouth your knowledge is very helpful. Thanks!
As a Hospitalist-NP this is so hard to watch. I’m getting more and more anxious by the second. It is absolutely clear that this guy is not OK. I really home this cop and his colleagues face charges.
PA here and same I’m about to squirm out of my seat
This haplened some years ago. The cop got a slap on the wrist and retired with a full pension. No one was ever held to account. Cruel beyond belief.
Guarantee the cop in that video of Ryan had exactly this thought process "he's not dead, so he couldnt have been shot, so I'm not getting him any medical attention, the pain will motivate his confession." Which is guaranteed a coerced confession if there was any reasonable justice, which admittedly is rare.
Thank you Bruce & Michael, for another great response. 😎
Insightful, humorous AND educational, your videos give me food for thought and genuine LOLs... so truly thanks.
What you said about your former client being bribed with KFC -
Something used to anger me - how the cops took the Parkland shooter to Burger King on the way to jail. (example of aforementioned food for thought.)
Things that make you go hmmm...
Who loves bruce and michael????????
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We do
How could we not 😊
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Me tf
The Ryan Waller case is horrifying. I've seen it covered on multiple true crime channels, but it infuriates me every time.
Thank you Michael❤
The sad part about the guy that was shot in the head was that they interrogated him for 8 hours before he was transported for medical care. This led to him having irreversible brain damage and he had to have 24 hour care for the rest of his life. He died from complications from these injuries years later.
@@horacesheffield7367of course they did... that would mean they'd admit liability
Almost every detail you typed was wrong lol
@@horacesheffield7367the case was dismissed due to corruption. Of course the city didn't want to be held liable so they made outrageous claims which an expert neurosurgeon has refuted. Ie. They LIED about not being at fault. After a brain injury like this, time is critical and the police delayed treatment for hours.
This is unbelievable, you don't need training to clearly see this guy is messed up.
I love how you speak to your son. I don't have any real relationship with my dad and it's great to see how much love you and your son have for each other
Opening: "Bruce Rivers the criminal lawyer...."
OR
Opening: "I live a luxury lifestyle because my customers are idiots."
Even as someone without basic medical training you’d be like why is this guy so confused and dazed up?!
For me it look first like a grumpy teeny, who feel uncomfortable and pissed , normal! Later i saw, anywhat isnt ok ! Then he get help!! Shame, that the cop hasnt xray eyes or he wasnt a clairvoyant !!! 😢 Blue eye could come from sport, accident with a door, ....
If a guy with a black eye like that is telling you that he got shot in the eye, it's a good idea to get it checked out.
Imagine if that young man was your family member and being treated this way by this detective! Devastating! The cop deserves more than a few years behind bars!
Instead nothing happened to him and he got to retire with a full pension. Now he gets to live happy and free with our tax dollars paying his bills.
@@MellypepperHow disgusting!!!! Hopefully people who know this detective will see this and know what a real POS he was/is!!! Definitely no empathy there!!
@@MellypepperI thought the video said he got 3 years in prison?
@@leebrock4783 He didn't. The dude who did the video that Bruce was reacting to got LOTS of stuff wrong. The cops weren't punished in any way. Ryan's dad didn't even sue them, that's also wrong. He said suing them wouldn't bring his son back.
@iulia.bianca.b I get not reopening the wound, per se, but there was a serious opportunity for justice that could have had impact on all departments departments nationwide
Hearing the questions the investigator. makes my blood boil and the young man needed to be taken to the Hospital urgently.
The interview with the 18 year old shot in the head always makes me want to cry. He was suffering but and that cop didn’t care what could be wrong with him.
Bruce, I just hold an associate’s degree, but I 100% agree that officers should educated and trained better. You’re amazing but that doesn’t take away from the ones who aren’t.
Edit: 1,00, no a billion percent that officers should be trained better.
Right? Same with defunding the police; if anything fund them more like we do our military & I think we'd see a vast drop in bs like this
I think an associates degree is enough for many jobs. Just like no degree is enough for many jobs. But police have so many people's life in their hands EVERY day.
I don't think a traditional degree is required to be a police officer. They should get more training on mental health issues, de-escalation techniques, empathy, listening, helping, and not being judgemental. That isn't learned through traditional education.
They do need yo be trained better, but a majority of deaths in custody are due to a lack of empathy and basic human decency, not a lack of training. If someone is visibly injured and asks for medical attention, policy in any department is to get that person checked out. These officers elected to let him suffer because they wanted to.
@@Br0nto5aurus by requiring higher standards they will be required to pay more and hire a higher caliber of employee
That was fun to watch!!!
Keep up the good work!!!
What’s fun about it?’?
That interrogator and his supervisor should both be charged with 1st degree murder and torture for what they did to Ryan.
How was it premeditated
@@antonyslaughter it went on for an hour, all the while they were consciously aware of what they were doing and thoughtfully choosing to do it. That constitutes premeditated.
it´s at least negligent homicide
They really killed him?
Yes, yes, yes😮
You are spot on about the 4 year degree. Most departments only require a high school education or GED and they only have to be 18 years old, maybe 19 years old. Lack of maturity is HUGE. I can understand that it would be difficult to believe that he was actually shot in the eye (I would think he would be dead too), BUT... it's unreal that they didn't even have the medics check that guy out with that obvious injury. Wow. 😵💫 My BFF of 44 years died unexpectedly from a brain bleed in 2019 - saddest day of my life. 😢
I am so sorry. My husband passed in 2019 for the same thing. Best wishes.
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Actually that's kinda wrong because there alot of great cops that don't have a four year degree and there doing well and technically advanced in the ranks you do need a degree , are you going to require a Pacific type of 4-year degree or just a 4-year degree . And also it depends on the state when you can start being a cop in Georgia it's 21 , My uncle is cop he has been doing it for 30 years he is the highest-ranking you can be without a degree, so your telling me if you make a law were you have to have a four year degree you know how many officers your losing and especially the good ones it's not practical , same with our military you know stupid it would be if you had to have a four-year degree to join the amount of time and money it will cost it's not practical because you can be trained for it without getting a degree even the medical stuff you don't need a degree how to understand medical stuff
@@Ghostridebuuyy We wouldn't be losing any experienced cops currently working. They would be grandfathered in. The requirement of a 4-year degree would only affect new recruits.
Absolutely agree that any le should have a 4 year degree! A 20 year old does not have the capacity to absorb laws, common sense, compassion and giving a firearm to an uneducated child is a disaster waiting to happen as I know of officers in our area. None of them have this type of education!!
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Omg, I cannot watch this again. Just the thought of this event brings me to tears
I watched the entire Ryan Waller interrogation when it happened and they grilled him, talked down to him, teased him, told him he was a piece of shit, for SIX FCKN HOURS before realizing there was a bullet hole in his eye socket. It was one of the most disturbing things I've seen in 40 years of criminal behavior, and when I say "disturbing criminal", I mean the "detective"..🧐
Bruce's gallows humor is so advanced. reminds me of my father
Awesome video! I LOVE that you referenced phineas gage - it was my first thought! such a completely crazy case but he survived for several years after!
he even traveled; but he struggled to find work, is the issue. he was a hard worker, but he was inconsistent and by most accounts difficult to work with. which is a shame - he was very friendly and well liked before the incident. i wonder how much of it was brain damage and how much of it may have been trauma from having his head blown open lol.
The second one was infuriating to watch and exactly why qualified immunity needs to be gone. What a horror show.
The Ryan Waller case is maddening and heartbreaking at the same time.
I would have loved to watch Bruce Rivers full interrogation reaction to this case.
This video is actually making me cry. Take the dude to the hospital and let the PROFESSIONALS be the ones to determine if he was shot in the eye! And then you can tell him all this bs! It’s so hard to see him struggling to form sentences. This is extremely painful to witness. And him saying “ouch my head hurts” when the cop touched his head made me bawl. This is a disgrace
The fact u brought up Phineas Gage makes me love u even more. Wrote a paper in college on him. Crazy story not many people know about. Bruce is just a dude spitting facts and knowledge through the internet
Brain discharge like scramby eggs…..dude became a prick. I have a t shirt. Gauge!
Thnx for the best of the best Bruce your a great person and you deserve all that attention love your content…
As a nurse I wanted to reach out and throttle that non functioning brain of an officer and run with that poor man who obviously was suffering with a brain Injury! ! It broke my heart ,💔 .
I'm so happy we have you. to see the justice in this tragedy for us through the eyes of a lawyer and true heart of a man's ❤ !
I felt so bad for this kid that was shot in the eye. And denied him medical care was horrible
That's basically torture and the reason why we have cameras everywhere.
"That's,...uhhh....my little nephew Billy....come on Billy." 😂😂😂😂😂
I remember watching the story about Ryan. How heartbreaking. I understand not believing someone, especially when you are in a profession where the majority of people lie regularly, but with that big ol' black eye, the sluggishness, and strange speech...that should've been handled ASAP. Period.
The biggest liars are the ones with the badges, who can legally lie.
Ryan said that Heather hit him in the face. Sluggishness and strange speech are things that can be the result of being intoxicated, same with not remembering things. You run a scenario to see how people would react to it and you’ll get interpretations that the person is drunk dozens to hundreds of times more than a brain bleed.