It's amazing how simple non linear systems can produce such beautiful images. Probably it's no coincidence that these drawings look so much like those "flames" fractals.
Laynie Fingers If the 'rules', or the speed of the motor and other factors like the diameters of the circles and linking are not changed during the operation, ideally it would repeat. But the pen is not copletely accurate and the links can move so it may not repeat itself.
I like that the machine hiccups in places, creating these breaks in the perfect rhythm of the lines. The ink flow stuttering is also nice, keeps it from becoming too mechanical.
Ha Rosamvietnam The Motor is a DC 12V Motor, made in switzerland and very expensiv. Each Whell has a Motor. The speed of the Motors does not change, but it's a few different. Thank You and best. Alfred Hoehn
Ich habe auch so ein ähnliches Gerät gebaut und würde mich interessieren, ob die kleineren Drehscheiben ein eingebautes Getriebe haben. Sind da Zahnräder drinnen verbaut?
I am using this as inspiration for a project I am working on now. I am at the stage of choosing the motors. Obviously our projects will have different torque requirements because of differing weights. (your spinning plate is metal and mine is light wood). How do I approximate the torque required to spin my disks and push my pantograph and pen along the paper, so as to choose the proper motor? Do I just use the weight of everything and the approximated friction of pen on paper? Thank you, your drawing machine is really incredible.
Excellent!! Superb!! It is very interesting how easily and how fast you can touch high complexity just by combining simple motions. How long doesn it take to repeat itself? When are these movenments periodic? -.
The guilloch is soo awesome, this machine knows how to make universal geometry! Try the hub with different shapes, square triangle rectangle and see what happens..
With a lot of these type machines you get a kind of osculation, or geometric pattern and it's really uniform, but not very interesting. But this seems much more random. That's very intriguing to me.
I'm doing parametric modelling for my architecture now and these forms are amazing! Out of curiosity, after a long time, will it repeat the same thing again? or is it forever drawing a new line?
Quick question, is there a motor or gear driving the small circle as well? Or, is the small wheel just fixed to the large wheel and its turning freely as the large wheels are being driven around?. Also, is there a ratio between how large small circles are compared to small circles? Amazing video!
Yes, but you will have to implement virtual 'reels' of prime number size and speed, I will give it a go, It's outside what I normally do - so don't expect much.
@alfredhoehn if you thought this was directed at you, it wasn't, it was directed towards whoever could possibly dislike this, i thought it was amazeing
Will the machine's drawing eventually form a closed loop? To find how long before the loop closes, you would need to find the smallest number that all the periods of all the wheels divide into (I think). So if the large wheels' periods are 9 and 10 seconds, and the 2 small wheels' periods are 6 and 7 seconds, then what is smallest number that is multiple of all those numbers? How about 630? So after 630 seconds or 10½ minutes, the loop would close. Course, that's assuming periods are exact.
it must have taken a lot of tries to get the 2 wheels to spin at just the right speed to each time it restarts its a tiny bit of from the last line drawn
Ah... An electro-mechanical Spirograph kit... I loved these kind of drawings when I was a kid.
It's amazing how simple non linear systems can produce such beautiful images. Probably it's no coincidence that these drawings look so much like those "flames" fractals.
This is so satisfying
+huki07 Thank You, Alfred
These are fascinating, almost hypnotic to watch. Do you have photographs of the finished drawings anywhere? Do the patterns ever repeat?
Laynie Fingers If the 'rules', or the speed of the motor and other factors like the diameters of the circles and linking are not changed during the operation, ideally it would repeat. But the pen is not copletely accurate and the links can move so it may not repeat itself.
I like that the machine hiccups in places, creating these breaks in the perfect rhythm of the lines. The ink flow stuttering is also nice, keeps it from becoming too mechanical.
Dude this is better art than the shit I see at art museum these days...
the drawings this thing makes are absolutely beautiful. awesome machine!
The machine sounded like a bowling going down the lane. This is a cool machine that makes these awesome squigly rainbows.
This is a little more entertaining than the other drawing machine I just watched. Not by much but it's better
Danke, diese Idee würde wahrscheinlich die Vermarktung meiner Maschinen vorantreiben.
Alfred Hoehn
Very Interesting. Do you use a software do you use to write the programms to these drawings or is it only mechanical?
I think that drawing is a stylized version of the universe.
U SHOULD MAKE A FAST MOTION VIDEO AND IT WILL BE REALLY COOL
dude you could sell those drawings for tons of money to a modern art museum
if you start the wheels at different phases, does it make a completely different drawing?
I can just smell the ball point pen ink now, reminding me of spiralgraph when I was 8.
I enjoyed watching this. My kids think it is neat!
Thank you Alfred Hoehn!
Ha Rosamvietnam
The Motor is a DC 12V Motor, made in switzerland and very expensiv. Each Whell has a Motor. The speed of the Motors does not change, but it's a few different.
Thank You and best.
Alfred Hoehn
This isn't computer programming, this is engineering and mathematics. Mind you, computers make this much easier to design.
Ich habe auch so ein ähnliches Gerät gebaut und würde mich interessieren, ob die kleineren Drehscheiben ein eingebautes Getriebe haben. Sind da Zahnräder drinnen verbaut?
I am using this as inspiration for a project I am working on now. I am at the stage of choosing the motors. Obviously our projects will have different torque requirements because of differing weights. (your spinning plate is metal and mine is light wood). How do I approximate the torque required to spin my disks and push my pantograph and pen along the paper, so as to choose the proper motor? Do I just use the weight of everything and the approximated friction of pen on paper? Thank you, your drawing machine is really incredible.
Quite simple machine, with the most awesome result! Not often you see something cool as that :b
Damn! I could watch this for days, and yet i would´nt think I wasted time.
the designs are so amazingly lovely to look at.... but I'm, more, wondering about the pen! What kind was that - never seen one so smooth before.
This is so cool. It is computer controlled or just random drawing. Like, can you know what the machine will draw?
I could watch that for hours. Really cool.
That's really quite relaxing to watch. Nice work. :)
Excellent!! Superb!!
It is very interesting how easily and how fast you can touch high complexity just by combining simple motions.
How long doesn it take to repeat itself? When are these movenments periodic?
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dudddee the drawing is sick man
Hi ! Very beautiful, it seems the machine is blocked at 3:42.
Soooo ein schönes Bild! Tolle Leistung!
I always wanted this! I could now print homework with led and pretend i did it... HAHA can't wait for this to be for sale.
kan you make a full video of the entire process in a timelapse? perhaps a bit sped up
Interesting video! It seems like the drawing should be symmetrical. Why are they not?
Wow that's a nice pen.
The guilloch is soo awesome, this machine knows how to make universal geometry! Try the hub with different shapes, square triangle rectangle and see what happens..
Do you think that it can be made on a computer, in 3D or 4D maybe?
Wow, that's what I call art! How many turns does it have to do before it repeats itself?
I don't know why but this whole video has a strong '80s vibe to it
Indeed
Well I imagine the machine is controlled by HAL.
Cooles Mandala..Viel Spaß beim ausmalen ! :)
THAT PEN IS AMAZING!!!
LOOK AT MY PEN, MY PEN IS AMAZING!!!
With a lot of these type machines you get a kind of osculation, or geometric pattern and it's really uniform, but not very interesting. But this seems much more random. That's very intriguing to me.
I'm doing parametric modelling for my architecture now and these forms are amazing!
Out of curiosity, after a long time, will it repeat the same thing again? or is it forever drawing a new line?
These are the shapes you see when on DMT. In some strange way this all seems logical and fitting
damn that pen had a loot of ink
i wouldn't mind getting some of those drawings and framing them
damn those are some beautiful lines!
that moment when the pen runs out of ink...
This is me studying math for tomorrow exam. Mc Donald`s here I come!
Time to rage when the pen runs out of ink
Woah! As far as I'm concerned, it's a 3 dimensional me gusta in 2 dimensional troll.
Quick question, is there a motor or gear driving the small circle as well? Or, is the small wheel just fixed to the large wheel and its turning freely as the large wheels are being driven around?. Also, is there a ratio between how large small circles are compared to small circles? Amazing video!
cool what do the finished pictures look like
Now stuff like thsi is useful. Show us the hidden geometry!
what would happen if u changed the speed of just one of the motors? will it still make cool drawings or will they turn to crap?
I had one of these as a kid... it was called a Spirograph.
i could watch this for days
So simple, yet so amazing! Love it!
this is pretty awesome
Sehr entspannend zu sehen!:)
Awesome!! I just wonder how this machine change the pitch between lines..
This maching is absolutely incredible. Directions for building one?
So this is how the Windows screensavers got created.
thats the best way to waste a ballpen
Yes, but you will have to implement virtual 'reels' of prime number size and speed, I will give it a go, It's outside what I normally do - so don't expect much.
Now that it what I call art!!!
One simple question. How those motors turns than slowly?
By the way Great idea
kann mich garnicht sattsehen ... das ist so toll und die Bilder, die entstehen sind wunderschön!
Hallo Adrian. Es freut mich, dass Dir meine Maschinen so gefallen. Wenn Du mal in Basel bist, komm sie anschauen. Gruss Alfred Hoehn
das nehm ich mir fest vor für das nächste Mal wenn ich meine Tochter in St.Gallen besuche. beste Grüße!
@Maxr616
Theoretical yes, it would be whole black. But in reality it begins to draw on the same lines after 3-4hours.
Thank you
Alfred
how long does the ink last if you just let it draw day and night?
@alfredhoehn if you thought this was directed at you, it wasn't, it was directed towards whoever could possibly dislike this, i thought it was amazeing
Will the machine's drawing eventually form a closed loop? To find how long before the loop closes, you would need to find the smallest number that all the periods of all the wheels divide into (I think). So if the large wheels' periods are 9 and 10 seconds, and the 2 small wheels' periods are 6 and 7 seconds, then what is smallest number that is multiple of all those numbers? How about 630? So after 630 seconds or 10½ minutes, the loop would close. Course, that's assuming periods are exact.
Seems like a nice machine.
@TheBeatDropper96
It is only a analog machine, no computer programming.
Thank you
Alfred
would it be whole black if you just leave it there?
its a drawing that can't be stopped or else it would be incomplete
Ok, the pen eventually HAS to run out of ink, right?
@TheKBbeat
Hallo, Danke für das Kompliment. Die Zeichnungen gibts auch farbig. Wo bist Du hause?
Alfred Hoehn
It would be great to use a color changing pen
Thank You for compliments
Alfred Hoehn
it must have taken a lot of tries to get the 2 wheels to spin at just the right speed to each time it restarts its a tiny bit of from the last line drawn
How many times did you have to stop it to lick the tip of the ink-pen?
if you get good pens they won't dry out
also, klicking it does nothing
*licking
I rewound and looked at the machines more closely, so I digress.
Really really beautiful!!! Thanks.
Way cool
That's so cool!
@alfredhoehn there's a screensaver that draws similar figures, but in a 3-Dimensional fashion instead
no prob, I guess the shape of the hubs really don't matter since they rotate anyway
wow thats friggen awsome
What type of pens did you use?
Program it to do something beautiful , like a tall ship under full sail !
looks like one of the screen saver on window 95, where's the start console and internet at the bottom left?
Could be a way to make crop circles. Just a thought...
THATS SO NICE
Etwas über eine Stunde...
Danke und beste Grüsse
Alfred
Maios return to the begin in about 2 hours.
best
Alfred Hoehn
Are the discs exactly the same?
Hello
I was wondering what are the measurements of the sticks, and what are the clamps you use to hold them?
@alfredhoehn does it happen because the discs have slightly different angular velocities?
I put this video in my BEST OF RUclips playlists¡¡¡ :D its great¡¡