Even though you still have to meet the activation requirements, this makes Magical Explosion marginally more playable because you can just mill your whole deck without having to worry about keeping Explosion. Though in order to make it work you either need either 1 each of Rollback/Explosion and 40 spells, or 2 Rollbacks/1 Explosion and 20 spells. You could also use 2 Rollbacks/1 Explosion/1 Life Equalizer and get away with just 15 spells, but you’d need ways to widen the LP gap. Which thankfully the now unlimited Upstart Goblin helps.
The virus cards do work with Transaction Rollback, but Epidemic specifically will NOT destroy anything as you have to declare which card type (spell/trap) as part of the activation, which you ignore when using Transaction Rollback. For Epidemic, the only effect you are applying is looking at opponents hand, facedown backrow, and 3 turns of draws, but not destroying anything
Pretty sure that is not how it works or the OCG would not play it. You still declare a type on activation. If epidemic does not work here then it will only be due to how it is translated here. In the ocg it is ruled that any part of the resolution of an effect that depends on a cards activation will not be applied, and in the tcg EEV says that you can look at the cards until the 3rd turn "after this card's activation).
@@chewdoom8415 We will have to wait and see how the TCG will handle the rulings involving this card. Rulings in the TCG can be/have been different from the OCG, both for different but similar situations and for exact same situations. I was merely stating that how we, as the TCG, rule copying effects is that it would not work for effects that have a declaration as part of the cost since copying effects in general do not apply the cost of the copied card
@@mitchellventura4394 I got you. It ignores cost in the ocg as well. I think I common misconception is that people consider everything before semicolon as cost, but those are actions you perform at activation, which include cost. Cost and targeting are even mentioned as two separate things in official articles and rules about PSCT. I think this is at least the logic in the ocg, which is why you can still copy traps that target. The activation conditions must be met and you must perform actions that you would at activation. Like you said though, rulings are different and I do not even know of any other examples of this sort of interaction in the tcg, so I could be way out of my depth
can you please explain how can you activate transaction rollback, copying the mayakashi trap on opponents turn when it is not a quick effect? Or since its a trap effect you can activate it on your opponents turn even if it is in the grave?
How does it interact with traps whose effect depends on some part of its cost? A trap card that targets a monster, or has an effect that depends on a variable amount of LP paid or monsters tributed as cost. Can you target cards like these with Rollback? If so, what happens?
It works with imperm, which targets. Think of it this way. When you activate imperm, you target a card, and then if it resolves, something gets negated. Transaction Rollback says "this effect becomes that cards activation effect". What happens when you imperm? You target a monster, then it negates. So it's literally copying the activation and effect of the card, but bypassing any costs (which is usually tribute, discard, pay life points, etc)
Costs are not part of the effect, therefore you can ignore them. GY effects ARE activated, but are not "the activated effect of the card on the field".
I dont think konami would ban Beatrice. Its literally all that BA has to be a deck so it seems too harsh. I think they would smack TR to 1 or just ban it entirely. BUT konami is notorious for fucking players over lol BA is my #1 fav and its not even meta so it just seems so harsh to ban Beatrice. I'd be pissed as fuck and no cap i would take a serious break from yugioh so i hope it doesnt happen lol
Eev needs to declare spell or trap; (is in same part of cost senteces) so you apply virus effect without destroy cards because you didn’t declare wich cards you would destroy? 🤣 seems good 😝 pls confirm or deny this
Funny. Dark magician HAS multiple level 6 at hand 😂. And dragoon. 😂, and a spell/trap dumper to draw more….. and could play belle to prevent any gy moving 😂😂
Also u dont think that ash can negate the summoning of trasactions copy effect either since that card does not specifically saying that
Yeah you can't negate transactions rollback if it copies summoning I just read ash
Even though you still have to meet the activation requirements, this makes Magical Explosion marginally more playable because you can just mill your whole deck without having to worry about keeping Explosion. Though in order to make it work you either need either 1 each of Rollback/Explosion and 40 spells, or 2 Rollbacks/1 Explosion and 20 spells. You could also use 2 Rollbacks/1 Explosion/1 Life Equalizer and get away with just 15 spells, but you’d need ways to widen the LP gap. Which thankfully the now unlimited Upstart Goblin helps.
The virus cards do work with Transaction Rollback, but Epidemic specifically will NOT destroy anything as you have to declare which card type (spell/trap) as part of the activation, which you ignore when using Transaction Rollback. For Epidemic, the only effect you are applying is looking at opponents hand, facedown backrow, and 3 turns of draws, but not destroying anything
I’m guessing the same applies with Dimensional Barrier as you would have to declare a card type?
Pretty sure that is not how it works or the OCG would not play it. You still declare a type on activation.
If epidemic does not work here then it will only be due to how it is translated here. In the ocg it is ruled that any part of the resolution of an effect that depends on a cards activation will not be applied, and in the tcg EEV says that you can look at the cards until the 3rd turn "after this card's activation).
EEV can be copied, you'd say spells then the effect is applied.
@@chewdoom8415 We will have to wait and see how the TCG will handle the rulings involving this card. Rulings in the TCG can be/have been different from the OCG, both for different but similar situations and for exact same situations. I was merely stating that how we, as the TCG, rule copying effects is that it would not work for effects that have a declaration as part of the cost since copying effects in general do not apply the cost of the copied card
@@mitchellventura4394 I got you. It ignores cost in the ocg as well. I think I common misconception is that people consider everything before semicolon as cost, but those are actions you perform at activation, which include cost. Cost and targeting are even mentioned as two separate things in official articles and rules about PSCT.
I think this is at least the logic in the ocg, which is why you can still copy traps that target. The activation conditions must be met and you must perform actions that you would at activation.
Like you said though, rulings are different and I do not even know of any other examples of this sort of interaction in the tcg, so I could be way out of my depth
So you can activate this card at the end of the battle phase by copying evenly match in GY with no card on board?
Yes.
@@galzo That sick, now I don't have to fear Lighting strom or Harpy duster anymore
Is revealing a card considered a cost (before the colon)? Or is it an activation procedure like targeting?
VW can play this so well
virtual world? because they can make beatrice easily ?
@@ayoobi1691plus shenshen can put rollback back in grave
can you please explain how can you activate transaction rollback, copying the mayakashi trap on opponents turn when it is not a quick effect? Or since its a trap effect you can activate it on your opponents turn even if it is in the grave?
Traps are quick in the GY.
@@galzo but you said ‘It can’t copy grave effects’
@@hughielroberts6935 it copies the activated effect that is written on the card as if it were activated on the field.
@@hughielroberts6935 example would be big welcome you can still use the special summon effect of it but not the card bounce effect in the grave
How does it interact with traps whose effect depends on some part of its cost? A trap card that targets a monster, or has an effect that depends on a variable amount of LP paid or monsters tributed as cost. Can you target cards like these with Rollback? If so, what happens?
It works with imperm, which targets. Think of it this way. When you activate imperm, you target a card, and then if it resolves, something gets negated. Transaction Rollback says "this effect becomes that cards activation effect". What happens when you imperm? You target a monster, then it negates. So it's literally copying the activation and effect of the card, but bypassing any costs (which is usually tribute, discard, pay life points, etc)
This with thunder of ruler and amorphactor pain lol
Would this card work with a PK deck? PK Horus or PK BA
It’s Labrynth Barage, but better.
gonna test this new spice for my Traptrix Deck as well
ive been testing this with unchained instead of going into high king caesar
Can this copy snow devil or not?
Like 12 different answers for me at this point :(
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so you can make a beatrice with tearlaments and floodgate your opponent just with one beatrice and 2 bricks in the main deck
Beatrice and thunder dragons:,
Allow us to use Ghost meets girl 😂
Result: you can special summon this turn
Excellent explanation!!!! 👌
Does Ghost Bell negate Transaction Rollback?
Nope
😮That sound like it can be a problem card
But how can u ignore costs,its part of the activated effect,isnt it? GY effects are also activated,arent tehy?
Costs are not part of the effect, therefore you can ignore them.
GY effects ARE activated, but are not "the activated effect of the card on the field".
@@galzo So cost is part of activation part from the card? Condition is requirement which all the time must be met?
@@galzo Sorry for the stupidy but I am returning player and see game is not like I used to play before
@@galzo Transaction rollback doesnt specify field.
@@konstantin8jmateev393 true, it still only applies to the activated effect on the field.
I'ma need you to ease up on transaction rollback playa you been warned
I dont think konami would ban Beatrice. Its literally all that BA has to be a deck so it seems too harsh. I think they would smack TR to 1 or just ban it entirely. BUT konami is notorious for fucking players over lol BA is my #1 fav and its not even meta so it just seems so harsh to ban Beatrice. I'd be pissed as fuck and no cap i would take a serious break from yugioh so i hope it doesnt happen lol
We need red reboot back
Red Reboot would not work with Transaction Rollback. At least its relevant effect.
How does this can copy Infinite impermanence? You have no targeting, how does it work?
It won't be able to negate on resolution because it doesn't have a target.
@@galzoit works just fine with imperm
Good ol' ghost meets girl.
Maybe can be use in a horus variant?
Eev needs to declare spell or trap; (is in same part of cost senteces) so you apply virus effect without destroy cards because you didn’t declare wich cards you would destroy? 🤣 seems good 😝 pls confirm or deny this
Current OCG ruling is that you declare as part of the activation of Rollback and it 100% works as intended.
Funny. Dark magician HAS multiple level 6 at hand 😂. And dragoon. 😂, and a spell/trap dumper to draw more….. and could play belle to prevent any gy moving 😂😂