Reality is whatever doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. Delusion is whatever is only evidenced where people do believe. If you are having a crisis of faith, and no one is actively gas-lighting you, your faith is in something you either chose to believe, or were told to believe. "If what we believe is true, it can not be harmed by investigation. If what we believe is not true, it needs to be harmed." -This quote speaks of religious ideology, but can apply to all things from scientific understanding, or any other context you'd like to apply it to.
I know! My only Rhett and link are my favorites ! (Other than Crowder) Rhett and link were my escape from politics and Crowder is my go-to with politics
@@berenguerx those centuries of science and knowledge weren't delayed by Christianity, but by corrupt leaders who used their "Christian faith" to control others. Looking back at history, it's crazy to see how much power Popes and other religious leaders had when killing off ancient astronomers and scientists
@@berenguerx Lol Scientific Materialism has done more damage to scientific progress than any religion ever has, and is still doing damage to it on a regular basis. While men of faith have done more for the field than any scientific materialist ever will, and I don't just mean in ages past, I mean recently too. If you knew the history of science, you'd now the line you just spoke was a crock cooked up back in the 1800's by charlatans trying to look clever. Just beceause we know why the sun rises does not mean that it does not rise from the horizon, it's all a matter of perspective.
@Gabe Norman I wouldn't necessarily say that, but I would agree that Scientific Materialism is a toxic element that motivates man to comprimise the field of scientific progress simply to satisfy their own ego's. Motivating celebrities scientists to actively disseminate misinformation and teach unsubstantiated opinions as scientific fact, all with a facade of scientific legitimacy. While their peers actively to to hinder real scientific progress because some of the finding coming out of the cutting egde fields make them feel uncomfortable, or challenge scientific axioms upon which they have built their entire world view. The moment someone decides to pin their entire world view on taking all the widely accepted scientific theories of their time, is the moment they become fanatically invested in making sure we don't learn anything that might throw those theories into question. What's worse is that Materialists have a bad habit of entering into a kind of Dogmatic Rationalism, where they start to believe that everything they choose to believe must be right because they came to their conclusion rationally, no matter how much or how little reason or logic came into play in their decision making. For example Richard Dawkins entire argument is that we should dismiss religion because it is the more adult thing to do, which is little more than an appeal to our childish desire to appear grown up. In other words the moment you convince yourself you have the authotiy to dismiss things out of hand, because you have convinced yourself of your own infallible rationality, you aren't looking at the world in a rational way, your expressing an act of blind faith in your own infallibility. You might as well say, "I believe it therefore it must be true." Often theists have the luxury of knowing that they are not flawless, and that their world view is not entirely rational. Thus making them a lot better at screening themselves for bias. Their is a reason that "Christian Scientists" are seen as quacks while their Materialist equivalents are paid loads of cash to spew outdated or outright false information at an audience on a regular basis.
Exactly. He was even criticized for socializing with those people by the Pharisees and Sadducees, who were supposed to be the religious leaders at the time
Not only that, depending on how you believe the Bible should've been translated into English, it may very well have never said anything about consensual, homosexual relationships. It may very well be that God never wanted to tell us we can't be gay. Anecdotally, I prayed and had a crisis and begged for God to give me a sign because I was afraid of me being gay, but now I feel confident that I can be a man, love God, and have a boyfriend all at the same time.
@@anubisgod23 what are you talking about? Its historical fact he was real. Just study roman history during the occupation of Jerusalem and they mention him. Dumbass
I mean, considering Jesus is literally whitewashed, I would say that where they were raised, and especially in today's society, Christianity is a white religion. That doesn't mean it is everywhere, but from the standpoint of where they grew up and became faithful, it definitely was.
“The church is very white, male, and straight” If you think this, just look at the Christianity in Ethiopia or Latin America compared with the world’s most atheist cities and countries in (predominantly white) Europe. Perhaps the problem is that the people you choose to associate with tend to be very white, male, straight, and in many cases, atheist.
@@slowpoke3864 to bad the jehovah witnesses arent actually Christian's, to be a Christians there are something's that you simply have to believe and one is that jesus is the eternal god which jehovah witnesses dont believe.
At first I was surprised to see Rhett and Link on Crowder, then I read the comments and was surprised to see how many crossover fans there was between the two.
Comedy is comedy. They are California but GMM has some nice middle America insights as well. I am sad they lost their faith. So many blessings they are denying for themselves.
I’m quoting a Christian rapper named Bizzle “they say christianity is a white mans religion , tell that to the Christians in Ethiopia who didn’t have to be enslaved by the white man to get it”
To call Christianity a “white man religion” is to ignore the fact that Christianity was founded in the Middle East. Even looking at the congregation of my church, I can tell you that is not true. I go to a Catholic Church in England and the diversity within my church is overwhelming, almost every other person is from somewhere different.
@@mrpanda2655 Dude leave her alone. She gets to have thoughts and a voice without thirsty creepers commenting on her looks. She knows what she looks like. Get back in your cave.
That's not California Christianity. That is Unitarianism. As a true Christian, living in California, true Christianity is the same here as it was in Florida and NYC and Springfield, Mo. Faith isn't a blind belief that you feel guilty when you fail to believe. Faith is knowing God's Word, and acting on the confidence you have in it. A testing of faith shows our weaknesses and misunderstanding, not God's failures.
Ernie Miller you clearly fail to understand the definition of faith, if u have faith in something you can’t know it’s true otherwise it wouldn’t be faith
The difference is between faith and blind faith. Blind faith has no foundation: it lacks any evidence. You can have evidence to believe in your faith and still have doubts. The virtue of faith is that you still belive and act like you should, even in times of doubt. We can't know absolutely, of course, but we believe evidence has been provided that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that God exists, and that we should therefore follow his commandments.
@@BigSunshine55 Confidence can be shaken, evidence can be overridden by new evidence. Faith on the other hand need not be blind, but must be unshakeable and child-like (both innocent and ignorant), as Jesus says in the Books of Mark and Matthew. Innocent not in the sense that you are naive to the evils of the world, but innocent faith in the sense that you approach belief in God and his Biblical teachings as a child would: without the adult cynicism and over-examination. We must accept as human beings that there are some things we cannot know, cannot understand or fathom, and very likely will never be capable of grasping in any capacity in our mortal bodies. This is not shameful, and by contrast, the Bible frequently showcases instances of shaming those who claim to "know" and have everything figured out about God, morality, and life.
Devin W Make up your mind. Either you don’t know, or there’s no reasonable doubt. You have to pick one, they can’t both be true. And if it’s the latter, it isn’t faith, it’s just knowledge.
@@taffysaur This page is a bit lengthy, but it's important to define what "faith" is. I think we start off with the wrong definition, we wind up arguing against a caricature. www.tektonics.org/whatis/whatfaith.php If we look at faith as being loyal to believing on what someone will do because of their reputation on things they have done before, it changes the perspective, if only a little. If you have a friend who you can call at 3 am because you are in a bind and they have always been there for you, you have faith in that individual. The assumption that faith must be blind should be a non-starter.
Christianity isn’t a white man’s religion but I understand why people say that. There’s always pictures and paintings of “white Jesus” everywhere but I wonder if most white Christians know that Jesus was probably a brown man judging by how Israeli people look and according to some bible verses, a black man at that. I think many people around the world still think Jesus was a blue eyed, light brown-haired white guy lmao
@@forducksnake1571 that's so far from the truth though. Maybe (in assuming) you live in America where all you hear about and see is white Christians and that's how you came up with this
By nice, you mean, enabling all their deviant and anti-family values. Be nice, leave the pedophiles alone. If you disagree, they will transform into dragons.
To be fair to Steven, I don't think he means to. From this show it is evident to me that they are truly good friends. I think Steven sometimes just has a hard time waiting his turn to talk. This happens to me all the time. I'll get an idea in my head from something someone else said and I just want to respond to them. It's not necessarily an intentional thing.
And most of the time Steven interrupts Gerald Steven just talks about ridiculous things. I love both of them, but it is annoying and I do feel bad for Gerald
Yeah, I think that what happened is what happens with most friend groups, they all get excited, especially Steven and he speaks a little more because he is the leader.
I agree. They seems to have lost the joy the once had. Their recent return to their childhood town felt like a desperate attempt to reconnect with the place where they were closer to God.
Same brother. these are two guys who I looked up to and were a part of my childhood and teenage years. And it's sad to think how far they've come from where they started.
Jordan Grant Where they grew up, Christianity was white, straight, and male. Christianity can be whatever you want it to be, because it’s a religion. And religions are made by humans.
Jordan Grant I’m agreeing to an extent with you. The Christianity that they grew up with was white, straight, and male mostly because of the beliefs in their particular region and church. It doesn’t mean that they actively made it that way, it was just their circumstances. They tried to change that as the years went by, but it ultimately led them out of their faith.
@@gonzalezm244 That's not what was implied. They applied the version of Christianity they were taught to every Christian. The reasons they gave for leaving had nothing to do with actual doctrine. Their reasons were based on doctrine they assumed was legit. It wasn't.
@@gonzalezm244 They're absolutely free to believe what they want, but they are the ones who not only chose to make it a spectacle, but, in doing so, to belittle every person who is still.a believer.
@@GiantJanus All the black Churches in the east coast and the south also are confused that the Church is white.......Southeast Asia, especially the philippines have many large Churches as well. Saying Church is very white makes no sense
@@scottgsarmwrestling4639 it is the Caucasian religion, or are people lying, covering and bearing false witness now, ... SHow me anyone but Caucasians in the book where Noah lands in the Caucass mountains. Waiting... Don't be lame or overly PC... Waiting...
I’m a Christian! Have been my whole life. I’ve had many meaningful, genuine friendships with Muslims, extremeee atheists, Gays and Lesbians. Especially at a very liberal college! And I played rugby (95% lesbians). And my beliefs have NEVER affected the genuine love I have for them as people. They knew I was Christian and any bad experiences they had with Christians didn’t affect their ability to form bonds with me either! I hung around a bunch of new age hipsters for a few years and we were always respectful of each other’s beliefs. After learning about their strong beliefs, and seeing how many some could be convincing, I still never lost my faith in God and Jesus. I am very glad you did this video and set some things straight. I think my Christianity is just very much based and love and how Jesus loved people. And having a relationship with God. Simple as that.
@@retrograd332 THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HATE CHRISTIANS. FUCK OFF! Do you REALLY think you're the FIRST FUCKING PERSON to "share the gospel" with us? We grew up in a country with Christian foundations. We hear "under God" every day in school, "God Bless You" whenever we sneeze, "I'll pray for you" when we're sick, and you think we SOMEHOW aren't getting the message. FUCK THE FUCK OFF!!!! LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE! How about I preach the gospel of how ridiculously stupid your belief structure is or that every single facet of your anointed prophet is a mirror image of an older, POLYTHEISTIC belief? So let me get it right, YOU are the FIRST PERSON to understand the scripture to it's accurate tone and ONLY YOU can convince we "false religion" followers of the right way. For those of you Christians reading this, if you want to be likeable to atheists, don't try to convert us. Better, more educated people than you have tried, but you all have EXACTLY the same arguments, and we have EXACTLY the same rebuttals. Until you can overcome the BASIC objections, you can take your Bronze Age fairytales and shove them up your ass. You're welcome to share your gospel with me, but we get to take turns. You read from the Bible for 10 minutes, then I'll read from a book of my choosing. I think we'll start with 50 Shades of Grey and go downhill from there. This is why we hate religious people. The ARROGANCE is staggering.
Dynamite Fresh sometimes it would come up in a conversation with some of them, but I never forced it.. mostly just explained why I believed what I did, if they were curious. I think for them, meeting a Christian that genuinely valued a friendship with them before anything else, didn’t follow their stereotypes they had of Christians. I think that can be the best way to getting them to open their minds to Christ and look into it more. I never tried to change them. People have to be open to it. If they are not, I will still enjoy my friendships with them.
@@d.r.l.9314 About trying to preach to people? I don't. I respond in kind to people who do. I do take my own advice. My advice is to leave people alone. Don't preach to me and I won't mock you. It's a fair exchange. Now begone, peasant.
Ya for real that made me cringe like "I jumped into the water and I took my wife and kids with me" way to kill your whole family gosh like that kinda makes me sick.
Yeah, though I do think that was the point he was trying to make. I think a lot of christians I've known over the course of my life assume if anyone leaves the faith its because they thought there was something better out there they were chasing, but in my own conversations with former believers almost every time they expressed that they didn't see something better, in many cases they infact had stopped believing years prior to their official public deconversion but it took them many years to leave the church despite believing the faith to be misplaced in part specifically because they didn't see anything better out there, didn't see anything to be gained from not at least continuing to act like they believed, and it terrified them to risk alienation from all their christian friends and family and to live with out some sort of religion after having one most if not their entire life. Ultimately they indicated that they reached a point where they acknowledged that they'd been drowning the entire time, they felt they had just deluded themselves to believing they were ever on a boat, and only by abandoning the fantasy that there was a boat that would carry them to shore could they begin to swim some where, regardless of where it led them, and have the hope of getting anywhere alive. My guess is you would disagree with that sentiment and thats fine, but thats my interpretation of this guys' statement based on other former believers I've spoken with. Still a dark, terrifying statement to make, but I think thats the emotions they genuinely felt and hoped to convey so others could understand how hard it was for them to leave even after they reached a point where they felt the evidence suggested Christianity was false, and could no longer convince themselves otherwise to maintain the aspects of Christianity they valued and appreciated. I think its the same reason scientologists, mormons, muslims, hindu, and former believers of various other main stream religions also stay in their religions even in the face of powerful evidence that their faith has been misplaced, when your entire life and community is built around a belief system, you have every reason to at least keep acting like you believe even if mentally you can not honestly say there isn't significant reason to doubt the religion itself. You really have to have a strong conviction to follow the path to truth no matter where it leads and what it costs you to leave a religion in that situation, even more so if you have a wife and children who you'll be pulling along with you. Maybe you don't agree with his evaluation of the truth of christianity, but personally I at least admire his desire for searching for truth even at the expense of his personal comfort.
The Bible says that the man has the responsibility of his family the man is the head of the household if you think jumping in the ocean is okay it is on you
I think there's some pretty blatant misrepresentation here: "Why did you only start digging for the truth once you moved to California?" They didn't. Rhett spends the first 40 minutes of his podcast talking about how he'd been reading things that made him question the validity of the Bible and discussing them with his wife, who cried through every conversation. Serious questioning of faith was occurring well before they moved to California. When they later moved to California, things continued in this direction. Please don't straw-man them just because you don't want to watch the whole story
@Tripleblade 82I'm not sure I believe that though. I think it's a very real chance that Rhett's questioning would've led him to lose his faith even without moving to California. I don't know that for sure, but to imply that it's only because of their move to Cali is misrepresentation.
@Tripleblade 82 I should also say that not only had he questioned some beliefs, he had changed his mind about many of them. Creationism was fundamental to his belief in god, and when he no longer believed that genesis was literally true, he began to doubt the validity of the whole Bible. He didn't know what was accurate and what was just a story at that point.
It’s sad man. I watched it happen. They’ve slowly slipped into this state over the years. I guess that’s what can happen when your not grounded, and surrounded by liberals. I really hate it because they were a good normal voice of reason that had massive reach.
Matthew Nichols agreed. And they were really fun to watch and listen to. It is sad to see the decline, which of course is seen as “bravery” and “compassionate” by a lot of not-so-sane people.
Matthew Nichols I could not agree more. I just knew it when they moved to LA that things were doomed. They jumped into the shallow LA lifestyle and it changed them in a very negative way. It’s frustrating to me because I liked them so much. I wish they never left North Carolina.
This makes me sad. I remember watching them “religiously” for a couple years, but over time, I did feel a slow change in the spirit/atmosphere of the show. I once had a lesbian boss. I am a devout Christian that believes 100% in the authority of scripture. Yes, sex outside of Biblical marriage between a man and woman is clearly condemned as sin. That being said, scripture also says that sinners are lost in their sin and that, before Christ saved me, I was lost too. So, while I couldn’t affirm her lifestyle, I treated her with much grace and care as I would anyone that’s made in the image of God. She later told me that, of all the other workers, she was most comfortable around me, even though I did not affirm her lesbianism. Never did I hate her.
So I agree that sex should be within the confines of marriage but I can’t justify calling it a sin. I haven’t found any verses that state or even imply it, and there are verses that are very explicit about what is a sexual sin. Do you know of any verses that I’m missing?
@@sterlinghamiltonracing6487 I suppose it depends on which version of the Bible you study. I personally study the King James version in which 1 Corinthians 6:18 which reads, "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body." But I know that other versions of the Bible replace "fornication" with "sexual sin."
@@sterlinghamiltonracing6487 I recommend you go through 1 Corinthians 7. It talks about how people are tempted with sexual immorality (sex outside of marriage). Also, 1 Corinthians 6:18, Paul tells us that this is a Sin. Then we are reminded in Hebrews 13:4, the holiness and honor of marriage between a man and a woman.
Lost my Christian faith in the Military, due to life-style and friends. I then had a heart to heart with Jesus during a mental crisis and allowed His love back in.
@@DaUnaDistanza I personally find the notion of the "perseverance of the Saints" to be dubious at best. Are you going to argue that Judas Iscariot is saved, or at the very least that he never had Christ's spirit depart from him? Or that he, one of the apostles, wasn't actually a disciple of Christ, despite being, you know, one of the apostles? The scriptures you refer to assume that the individuals don't make a choice, of free will, to stop believing. They're not talking about those that choose to spiritually die again.
"white religion" And here I am and all the other dark-skinned Latinos, not knowing that we were actually white all this time. I guess now I can go for one of those "white privileges" that I hear so much about.
Sorry I know that this is a old comment but I’m truly confused. Do u not know that Latin America is Christian due to brutal colonisation by white people? People don’t call it a white religion cause all it’s followers are white or it’s god is white but because white people has used it as a weapon and white washed it to such a extent that it convinced dark skinned Latinos and indigenous ppl that being slaves was their god given position and tried to justify it through the bible.
@@vibes6255 I am a Christian and I agree. Many people in the past who happened to be white have twisted the words of the Bible to support their corrupt endeavors
@@aedankennedy8263 Yh it’s good to be aware of the positives and negatives of everything cause obviously some ppl are evil and can twist ur faith. No point in denying it we gotta defend against it.
When he says " the church is very white, male and straight." Every non-white christian human cracking there necks to stare at him in a angry or confused look... 👁
I'll be honest, both of the first two are ridiculous- the church exists worldwide and even in majority white countries it still has sinificant non-white members. and I'd hazard a guess that 50-55% of the church are female, even if only sentimentally or because women tend to live longer on average. as for the last, the true church is straight, but the church in general has gone kind of apostate on that point, so, yeah....
D Kirk clearly you don’t understand the Bible. Do you see any Christians going around stoning disobedient children, adulterers and homosexuals? Exactly. Either the Christians are wrong about our understanding of the Bible or you are wrong about your interpretation of scripture. We could have a meaningful conversation about this but you have to be willing to accept that you could be wrong about the way you see the Bible.
@@dkirk_official The Bible also mentions a stark difference between the old law (where that sin was punished with death), and the new law of Christ (where we don't punish sin by killing the one who committed it). You don't seem to understand the difference between the then and now, you don't understand why Jesus came in the first place, and you don't understand how Jesus changed the entire system of punishment for sin.
@@dkirk_official Nothing like making an ignorant statement and getting shut down in the following comments by facts, right? haha (Next time, try actually learning a subject in-depth before commenting it. Instead of just parroting what you heard some other simpleton say. You just look extremely ignorant and naive. "haha".)
“The church is very white, and male, and straight.” The Apostles, Mary Magdalene, Priscilla, The Greeks (who were mega gay; granted anyone who was gay would hence forth deny the lifestyle for God), The Romans, The Middle East, Africa, Mexico, Asia: “Am I a joke to you?”
What do you mean there where no white people in the middle east, northern Africa and Greece which is where the events of the Bible take place so you are factually incorrect
@@knotadoctor1455 Greeks are generally considered white. As for the semites and related peoples in the middle east and north Africa, they're generally not considered "white". Arabs, Jews, Ethiopians, Copts, Berbers, etc. Were there some "white" (what even does that mean?) people there? Sure. Were they the predominant group, especially among the Jews? No. Jesus isn't white. He's a Hebrew. A semite. Probably looks something like what the Copts look like.
I was having my doubts about Christianity over the past few months and a few nights ago my older brother and his friend were out longboarding. My neighborhood has a lot of hills and they went down the biggest one they could find. The turn came too fast and my brothers friend was able to jump into the grass but my brother was t so lucky. He impacted on his ribs right on a curb after going 30 mph or more. He went to the hospital and I prayed all night long. He tore a cardiac valve completely off and pretty much destroyed his liver. The surgeon removed ten percent of his liver and fixed the valve. It was supposed to be two or three surgeries but luckily it was only one. He somehow didn’t break any ribs though. He’s in the hospital and will be released tomorrow. The day after his surgery a new doctor came in and looked him dead in the yes and said “You should be dead” and two days later he’s not. This helped me see that God is real and he does great things. He worked through those surgeons to save my best friend and brother. That’s my story and it’s very recent.
That's awesome to hear! My own personal experiences have taught me that lesson, too: God definitely can and will use bad situations to call us back to Him. It's not always easy in the moment, but He always has good plans for us in the end.
Shen N. Annagins exactly idk what North Carolina (I think they said that’s where they’re from) is like but my church (Baptist) in rural Missouri is probably 40% Indian, Mexican, and black. Not only just members of the church, but also music leaders, spiritual leaders, etc.
@@DeepFriedChumChum I grew up in an Independent Baptist church in Missouri. Whereas the church I went to was predominantly white, it was never on purpose, thats just who lived in the area. I'm not sure how they made the connection of white=Christian. In KC I see far more black or Latino at churches now. I used to like R&L.
Rhett and Link's entire argument here rests on the faulty premise that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle or behavior then you must also hate them. They act as if you must support everything a person does in order to love them. The actual Christian approach is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.
Anthony Bauguess the Christian approach is to let a man in the sky judge people for something they cannot help. They discuss gay people in this video and the Bible states being gay is a sin. Why would god create a gay person if he believes it’s a sin? If god truly has a plan for everyone then that wouldn’t make any sense. This is an obvious contradiction. Also if you have a belief that a gay persons lifestyle is a sin, you can “love them” but you will always have this belief in the back of your mind that they are a sinner and what they are doing is wrong, when it is in fact not. There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is not inherently evil, it hurts no one, it affects no one else’s life and those who are gay cannot choose not to be gay. And yet somehow this is inherently wrong. How can you believe something like that? Because a book told you to?
A person is no more or no less their actions. If you hate someones action, you hate that person. "Love the sinner, hate the sin" is massive cognitive dissonance that requires massive amounts of mental gymnastics and most often it makes you a worse person because you end up not really giving a shit about people who do things your made up ideology (religion) disagrees with. And then you end up being a condescending person sitting in a bubble silently judging others thinking your religion and beliefs are correct when they really have no validity at all.
@@TheLarknessMonster My mom hates the fact that I fidget with anything in arm's reach and can't sit still (thanks adhd). Guess you're only possible interpretation is that she hates me eh? Funny, in day to day life there's things that drive me up the wall with the people in my life, like my dad's unbelievably loud snoring echoing through the walls of the house right now. Who knew?! Thanks to you I just discovered I hate my dad :O
@@drenathor ADHD is an issue that negatively affects your life and the ones around you. Snoring the same. Being gay? How does that negatively do anything to anyone else or the gay person? Why would anyone go hating the aspect of being gay? I'd argue your mom hates the aspect of you that is ADHD and you hate the aspect of your dad that is him snoring. That doesn't mean you 100% hate your dad or your mom 100% hates you..... But it wouldn't be a stretch to say they hate an aspect of you, that is un-separable from you as a person. Hate is a strong word, I can't stand snoring either. But I can't say I hate it, especially if the person can't get rid of it.
@@TheLarknessMonster Well you said, "A person is no more or no less their actions. If you hate someones action, you hate that person." But it's nice to see you now say, "That doesn't mean you 100% hate your dad or your mom 100% hates you". Welcome to the club of hating someones action without hating that person. Guess you're as good at mental gymnastics as any of the Christians here :) Joking aside, that phrase doesn't occur anywhere in the Bible so I don't think it was supposed to be taken literally. I think the hate the sin part is shorthand for saying that "sin" shouldn't be tolerated within the Christian's personal life as it would hider their relation with God. However they arn't God and it's not their job to hate, punish, etc. others for sins in their life. I think pride and arrogance being something that most people struggle with it would be SUPER easy to fall into the trap of Christians (or members of any group with rules to abstain from) looking down on everyone outside their click and trying to distance themselves from them. IDK, maybe I don't get the phrase either but that's just what I always assumed it was supposed to mean at least (for whatever that's worth) :P
I grew up in a very strict church and for the longest time I thought Christians should reject gays and shun them. Then one day I ended up with gay neighbors. The Bible told me to love my neighbor as myself. I realized it wasn't Christianity that was the paradox. It was my application of it. It doesn't mean I switch to accepting the lifestyle but it did mean that I stop assigning a rating system to all the sin around me and drop the self righteousness. Christian singer Rich Mullins told a story of hitchhiking and being picked up by a man who revealed he was gay. The man said, "Doesn't your God hate me for being gay?". Rich responded, "No more than he hates me for being a liar.". When you understand your sin is just as grievous as everyone else's sin you start to truly understand grace. Rhett was confronted by his flawed application of faith and instead of turning to the truth, he turned away from it and sought answers from the world.
"The church is very white and male and straight." Um, Christianity is the only major religion that is not and historically has not been geographically/culturally limited. Islam is still largely centered in the middle east (Indonesia is the one outlier), Hinduism is still centered in India, Buddhism is still centered in the far east. Christianity started in the middle east in Israel, then it was centered in modern day Turkey, then Rome and north Africa, then western Europe & England, then America, now it's shifting to Asia and Africa. Christianity is the ONLY geographically and culturally diverse world religion.
Nate Higgers Thanks to infiltration through immigration, and above average breeding. Keep in mind if Christianity was still traditional none of this nonsense would have happened.
Reminds me of this C.S. Lewis quote. “Faith, in the sense in which I am here using the word, is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted, in spite of your changing moods.”
@@lilys_webb5018 that's doubtful. People that change religious beliefs because of their social pressures rarely do so because someone made a good argument for or against something. Heck, people rarely change beliefs because of argument at all. Instead they usually do it because of emotional conflict with their apparent beliefs and side with emotions. Here's a question: did they put this much effort into their faith before they came to Christianity in the first place? What did they ask? Was it just an accepted and expected social norm? If so, why shouldn't I see their deconversion as the same thing? Those of us who came even a little late to the faith and argued and did at least a little research beforehand are very rarely the kind of people that deconvert. Why? Because we're the kind of person who takes up a faith to internalize and make sense of the world we live in and our own qualia. The others? They just want to fit in with society. They just want people to like them. That's a terrible way to base your fundamental beliefs.
Martial Apologist assuming that about them or anyone is so dismissive. i’m a christian turned agnostic so i related to a lot of the things they were saying. it’s a struggle to have those doubts, especially in the south. you may do a lot of research to get into the faith, you may do a lot of research to get out. i know i did. and it’s not something that your environment determines. that would dismiss their faith as being fragile and moldeable, which is frankly offensive. each person is different. and to answer your question, yeah i’m sure they did put lots of thought into christianity. but being born into it, like being in the bible belt, is a weird thing. you’re not born a christian, but you are born into that lifestyle but you must be educated on it to become truly saved. people change their beliefs because of argument all the time, i know i did. it was just a long process.
@@lilys_webb5018 that's fine, but I'm pretty sure the scientific psychological consensus is that most people don't change their minds from argument. At least not exclusively. I wish I were wrong. I'd like to be. But they didn't actually present anything like evidence it reason to think their faith was wrong. At least not that would convince anyone with a better understanding than what people get in Sunday school. If you want to leave any faith you should hit the best, and only the best, thinkers on both sides of the issue. I kind of doubt these guys were reading c.s. Lewis, Gary Habermas, Alvin Plantinga, and Peter Kreeft. They did seem swayed by the likes of common internet atheist tropes that can, admittedly, trear down bad strawmen if Christianity. I feel like they would give weight even to Jesus mythicism, which no credible historian thinks is anything but silly, but maybe they were a bit better than that.
LA isn't the reason he is asking these questions. "My environment is effecting me and making me this way" is the king statements made by weak men and no one else. "You say you have to have faith and I agree but you never had it. You are a weak man and you went to where you could gain from that weakness." That is what I would say to that
exactly. Rhett explicitly stated that the argument of it only being an “la thing” really hurt him because it dismisses the idea that he could just question his beliefs. he’s struggled with his faith since NC.
Faith should make you a thermostat rather than a thermometer. A thermometer reflects an aspect of its environment. A thermostat controls that aspect of its environment. Muse on that.
@@hllymchll Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you. I mean how could I? I don't know who the hell you are and I wasn't talking to you or about you so how could I possibly know my words would offend you so much. It seems the only way you could have not been offended is not sticking your ass where you don't want to be. So it's not me offending you at all is it but you looking to be offended. Just because something is said a lot and is common doesn't mean its wrong or lazy. In fact the reason you are offended is it is right. It just means people like you don't like hearing the truth and I couldn't care less if your offended by it. That is the point for to get offended because it breaks the delusion places like LA give you that your weakness is ok which it is not. Its like your statement about saying 'you are not christian if you do X" You left that open because most thing you could put there would be right like "You are a bad christian if you don't take communion" for example. That statement is 100% correct and you can hate it all you like. I can only hope that if he read my post. He would have the same reaction you did because he is weak just like you. That is the real reason he can't like in North Carolina because they will tell the truth... JUST... LIKE....ME
For the people who feel like quickly commenting, I would HIGHLY recommend listening to their full stories. Especially Links. His was not represented well in this video. Him losing faith was not fully based on the lgbtq+ issue.
I also agree, the show focused on non central topics, as well as making too many bad taste jokes imo. However I also think that they made valid interesting points. And tbh I think if Rhett and Link really care about truth they should show up for a conversation.
Mister Z there is no truth when it comes to this topic. You believe what you believe in. Especially when it revolves religion which is pretty much just a man made theory, until we see god come from the sky or we have an after life in heaven or hell. frankly, I don’t believe in god necessarily because people are only pushed into religion from other people with no evidence of anything except a book and that it is the answer to life. Their all saying “if your in a dark time in your life god will shine through and brighten your life” or something like that but I’m pretty sure that’s just how life goes for absolutely everyone. It’s just normal.
Daniel Martinez when he said that I legitimately teared up. What a dark and sad statement. I thought of how Jesus walks on water and he decided to refute Him and drown :(
@@sydmoore6 as a man and not a perfect man, I can not fathom pulling my wife and kids down into something I was unsure of. To me the wife and husband are equal, I think God and the family members see the man as the leader of his household. It is very sad to hear someone say it, even more it makes me reflect on my actions as a father and pray God will help me where I have failed to give Him all glory!
You guys clearly have not watched the full podcast if you think this was a dark statement or in anyway bad. And you clearly have no idea who Link is if you think he'd do anything to potentially harm his family.
Daniel Martinez Yes because you took an analogy and took it as literally as possible. If you’d actually watch the podcast instead of forming ill-informed opinions you’d know that this was a decades long process for them. They don’t want your pity man. In the podcast (which you didn’t watch, again) they talk about how they knew people like you would react this way because this is exactly how they would have reacted when they were Christians
There's also a distinction between feelings and experiences. I listened to their entire things and they never actually experienced God, they merely held an intellectual belief based on their emotions rather than a firm hollistic belief mind body and soul based on actually knowing God personally.
@Ned Prendergast Cunningham what should Christian faith be based on? One can believe in God without being Christian, or being a part of any religion for that matter.
@@blueicedragon2107 No he didn't. Kids who were religious growing up turn atheist all time time, and kids raised by atheist parents convert to religion all the time. People can and do change their minds often.
They would be better off subtracting her from their entire equation in my opinion. Maybe she can get a gig as a monotone robotic voice for a please hold tele prompt service somewhere with any luck
Well, it’s true that the people you surround yourself with will impact you. I have many friends who are from the LGBT community. I love them just as much and no different from my other friends, but I’m careful to not subject myself to too much of it, either. Of course, I tend to do that with everyone, haha! It’s all about balance, right?
Steven, my name is Hunter, I am 21 years old and I am from Murfreesboro, TN and I am a huge fan! But you asked us to share stories about losing/gaining/keeping faith. And I'll share my story with you. I started dating a sophomore in highschool going into junior year, when I was in the 8th grade going into freshman year. And she was an atheist while I was raised up Christian, then about my sophomore year, I lost my faith and went down a very dark path, I was never good at school, always hated it at that time. I started skipping school ALL the time to where I even got arrested for truancy, I became a drug addict, snorting and smoking pills, amphetamines, opiates anything I could get my hands on. Then the summer going into my senior year. I overdosed off opiates and ended up in the hospital, and I'm lucky I didnt lose my life, up until this point I was still an atheist, but I was sitting there in the hospital bed and I prayed and asked god to help me overcome my addiction and get better and if I could get over it that I would regain my faith in god. And I've been a clean Christian, ever since. I ended up going to trade school for the trade that I am currently in, welding. And in the fall I'll be going to college for Engineering. And I'm doing great. Thanks so much Steven, have a great day!
@@johndeneau7667 What some of you atheists don't understand (I am assuming by your comment that your an atheist) some people need the help of belief in a higher power to get them off addiction. He's off of drugs, so what if he thanks a higher power? Maybe it was God.
@@RockLibertyWarrior it was his own strength, he saw a problem, and by sheer power of will he bettered himself. The sooner he realizes it was all him the sooner he can apply himself and accomplish anything.
Please look into The Bible Project or Dr. Michael Heiser. They teach you how to read the Bible through the eyes of the Ancient Israelite. They help you understand historical context. My mind has been blown ever since! 🛐❤🛐❤✝️
Hallie Maney that’s amazing! It’s okay to have questions! There’s so much to learn just be careful because there’s a lot of false information. King James Version is the most accurate to the word. I will pray for you! 💝
@@babybumblebee585 I've started reading the NIV version (not even sure what that stands for) but I know the King James version is a little wordy for me to be able to just sit and read it (and understand what I just read haha) I have thought about referencing it at times when a sentence doesn't make much sense just to see it written differently. I appreciate the prayers 👍
I am a Christian and I have been struggling a lot lately with the idea of love. This mass Monday was exactly what I needed. I recently was hurt very deeply by someone who said that he loved me. He told me he loved me then turned around and showed his true colors by betraying all of the things I had trusted him with. I have been struggling with how someone could be so sure of a feeling and then suddenly change that feeling. When Steven said that the church should see love as action not just as feeling it all clicked. I spent all my time loving him by action as I am called to do as a Christian, and yet he did not love me by his action, he loved me by his feeling. This was the realization that I needed desperately but was unable to find. Thank you Steven and team for having this program. I am always blown away by who God uses to give clarity to others. Never did I think that the person who would speak the words I needed to hear would be the guy who dressed up as heat miser to go confront someone in a coffee shop 😂😂😂
Abigail, unfortunately these lessons are part of life. True faith is strengthened when we experience these things and we are able to step back and objectively learn from them. When it comes to matters of love, I find it a very slippery slope when we equate Human love and emotion with our faith. We run the risk of losing both. I'm very glad to read that you gained strength and some insight from this podcast and the experience as a whole. Many do not make it through. At your age I'm sure you are aware of this. I think most would agree if they took the time that you are right on track with your life experiences and that experiences are exactly that. They are things we have experienced. They do not define us not do they define all of our experiences in the future. I'd like to ask that you take some time to see if you can't put the experience where it belongs and perhaps see if a different outlook towards your faith isn't a stronger lesson. One where gratitude in being blessed with the strength to persevere and grow is more the lesson. Take care and enjoy life and your faith equally. With all your heart.
My daughter's name is Abigail. I hope you are doing well these days. I think everything Steven and his crew said here are so spot on. You take good care of yourself. Keep the faith. Never surrender or give up your Christian principles. IMHO.
If it helps, remember that Christ came into body form and endured every kind of thing we would face. He personally knows what it feels like to have someone close betray you, so you know that He feels for you and the pain that brought you. And He lovingly uses what was evil to bring about good, so that pain does not go for nothing. (Note: that is not the same as saying nothing bad will happen. But God creates good in spite of evil.)
Also, from personal experience, I will give you this cautionary advice: It would be better for someone to come stab me to death - than to allow bitterness in my heart. To die faithfully is to join our Lord having finished the race well. That's the worst someone else can do to me. Bitterness on the other hand... Nothing in my life has risked my salvation more. Nothing more has pushed me toward rebellion and drove me toward sin despite having lived faithfully for a long time. When you consider that, who did more harm to who? The person who hurt me? Or me to myself? All they did was hurt me. I nearly drug myself down to hell. Thank God for forgiveness. Thank God He is faithful even when I am not faithful. Thank God for the continued opportunity to repent which could have stopped. Consider that God saved us from ourselves, and that other's harm does not compare to that rescue. May you find peace in and blessing in God.
I never lost my faith, but I went through a phase where my faith was on very shaky ground. During junior/senior year of high school, I was in a very bad relationship, and simultaneously my dad‘s struggle with alcoholism was beginning to hit its worst point yet. This combination put me in a very dark place, and I began to question a lot of things about my faith. But in the end I actually came out stronger than ever before, and since then I’ve just continued to grow.
Christians will try to throw him a "life saver". He will demand the anchor instead.
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Honestly, that sentence from Rhett made me physically cringe because if he doesnt straighten out his life his wife and kids and grandkids salvation will be on his head as he acknowledges that he pulled them in.
lol you guys are soo dramatic let the man and his family make their personal choices like everyone else. just because your faith works for you doesnt mean everyone else is wrong about theirs. dont be so sure about everything. your rather on the level of a flat earther tbh calling everyone globetards or sum who dont believe in your shaky theory, its rather funny and sad all at the same time.
@@mmeeemmeeesseeeeeeeeeeeeee9206 The concept of "pulled my wife and kids with me" already destroys the live and let live mentality. Honestly, the better action would have been for him to jump ship, but let his wife and children choose for themselves.
@@MechaKnuckles Good. If you believe in something not worth believing in, and your will to follow it is fragile precisely because of this (assuming you subscribe to the logic that having a doubt doesn't just appear out of nowhere and that it is worth paying attention to in the first place - which it IS), and watching a fucking Earbiscuits video is enough to cut the fucking cord... well, then, good FUCKING riddance.
@EmtronVenger I personally believe that you shouldn't, because Rhett and Link are allowed to be the people that they are, and if people are going to be in a hissy fit about it, they should be in a hissy fit about everyone who shares the same position. Oh wait, Christians do tend to be in a hissy fit about a lot, don't they? It's not as if the whole function of their religion depends on getting up in other people's business about their "soul" or whatev... uh, oops.
@Nathanael Inman If you're watching Rhett and Link in the first place for a Bible lesson, you were in the wrong place to begin with. Grow up, people are people. That said, if you think that people shouldn't have the ability to express their current state of belief (whatever it is), or doubts, or whatever, you are a tyrannical kind of thinker. Rhett and Link have every right to express as much as they want about their current lack of faith as you have the right to express your faith. Stop holding people to different standards just because they don't believe the same shit that you do. People at any age should be allowed to think about the world that they're in, and you want to forcibly prevent that from happening. You're the scary one.
28:24 He's just displaying his absolute ignorance here. The Huaorani tribe in Ecuador not only practiced cannibalism with no remorse, but their language didn't even have a word for forgiveness. It's infuriating listening to ignorant people speak lies as if they are truth. This is straight from the father of lies.
@@WufflesGhosts If you mean killing, then yes that's correct. Murder is always immoral. It's the definition of the word. There's justifiable homicide, not justifiable murder.
This breaks my heart. These guys were such a big part of my childhood. Their faith kept their comedy clean. The fact that they were so poorly instructed in the faith that they felt this way is so sad.
No............. It was clean because they started more so for kids but as their kids grew up so did their audience. GMMs audience is primarily teens and 20+ year olds and their kids are teens now too. Thus they started getting more mature with topics............
@@Pascua_bunch Their best friend dying (who is now dead rip) who didn't believe in Christianity and both of them caring more about "saving" his soul rather than caring for him as a living being. That was the main catalyst for them leaving.
"You need to understand and be able to articulate your beliefs or you have no business espousing them." - Steven Crowder Love this so much! God WANTS us to understand his commandments and his conversations with mankind. Not to follow him blindly.
I became a Christian through a philosophical pathway. I was an atheist. I read some philosophical writings from Christian authors, especially on ethics, that attracted me to the teachings of Jesus. Now, I’ve been a Christian for 21 years. I’ve had my highs and my lows. But I’m a better, stronger, more virtuous man because of my faith in Jesus Christ, the Lord.
And may you continue to see the positive and be virtuous. 😊 Thank you for your comment, a simple testimony instead of a put-down or the like. Hope you stay healthy and happy. 👍💛
I presume you're familiar with C.S.Lewis. That dude's the best. There's this cool RUclips channel called C.S.Lewis doodle that illustrates a lot of his work really well. I would highly recommend it.
@@ApexBizzySolutions Here's an awesome message to get you started: ruclips.net/video/hhG_SY-LhPE/видео.html 😊 And if anyone's interested, there's more to just listen to (don't have to watch) here: ruclips.net/user/LDSGeneralConference
Christianity is being like God,and loving people like are own brothers/and sisters. Never be ashamed of being a Christian and your walk with Jesus! God bless
I'm not sure if Rhett meant to make that sound so ominous, but there's no other way to really interpret the way he said "I jumped into the water and I pulled my wife and child into the water with me." like dude, you're making a metaphor about drowning...not being free.
The way I interpreted that quote from Rhett saying that he separated himself from the faith and jumped off the boat and into the water, I think that he means he pushed himself away from Christ and found himself in a place of uncertainty and a feeling of being lost, like being lost in the sea. As of him saying that he brought his wife and kids with him, I think that he thought that was the best decision for them, and as every father would want the best for their family, he brought them along.
Christian here. I recommend the book by Dr Frank Turek called “I don’t have enough faith to be an Atheist” It is amazing. It argues Theism first, then goes to explain why Christianity has the most supportive evidence of the theisms. I think a lot of people are agnostic more than atheist, they just don’t know the difference. Intellectually I think it’s more logical to be agnostic than atheist.
Yeah, a persons belief may be wrong but Gods word is clear... "Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death." - Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT
I am very well aware of the difference and I am atheist. Are you "agnostic" to Oden, Ra, tooth fairy, Santa clause, Abdominal snow man, gnomes? You can not 100% prove or disprove the existence of Zeus, but the question is do you believe in Zeus?
So you couldn't hug a sinner? We're all sinners. I hug my wife and kids daily and they're sinners and they hug me who and I am also a sinner. They couldn't be honest and just say it's much easier not to be Christian in L.A.
@The Clownening dude comon you can't say that marijuana doesn't have positives and its way better than any other drug also stoners arnt the worst people you can meet take a joke jeez
9:45 (ish) I'm a conservative evangelical Christian, I'm a minister at my church, lead a youth group and everything in between. My best friend is a gay drag queen. Every day I tell him I love him and I hug him whenever I see him. He knows what my convictions are and we've had those conversations, but he's my brother. Never has my faith come in the way of that. On the contrary.
I totally understand having someone like that as a friend, whom you can constantly witness to with your love for them showing the love of God to them. That's an excellent way to live out your faith! But I'm very confused that your *best* friend would be someone who can't truly hold you up in your faith and point you towards God. Do you have no Christian brothers whom you can relate to better? Nobody who can pray with you, build you up with Godly encouragement, and run the race with you? Paul says: Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 2 Corinthians 6:14 ESV By you saying an unbeliever is the one you're yoked the closest with, that shows your walk is seriously imbalanced! Why can't you find brothers in the faith to be your cord of 3 which isn't easily broken, so you have a stable walk that will assist you in guiding a lost friend? If you're yoked to 1 other, and they don't walk the same way as you, you're in some trouble. If you're yoked to 2 brothers in the faith you won't be strayed as easily by a weaker connection to a lost soul wandering in a different direction. Your brothers will even be able to help you stay on track while you try to pull that friend towards your path. I hope you find these words encouraging, brother. Run the race to obtain the victory! The grace of the Lord Jesus be with you.
when i was young i had not really yet developed in my beliefs and towards the end of middle school, I met a man on xbox live. I wasn't very smart at the time, but i was definitely smart enough to understand how smart this guy was. for weeks and weeks i listened to this guy all the time joining his party, and listening to him just spout endless information on so many subjects and he was very atheist and i had avoided talking about that because he was adamant about converting Christians to atheists. When he eventually asked me directly i told him I was because i knew i shouldn't deny God, so at this point nothing else existed it took about 10 hours of talking over 2 or 3 days and he poked holes in what i said and the answers i gave him and he asked me why i was a christian and i didn't know. I told him something about heaven and he told me that i wasn't a christian, i was just afraid of death. I believed him, he understood me more than i understood myself and i fell away from God. While im not proud of that failure, but I think it did more to lead me to self discovery, and rediscovery of God and Faith than it did the opposite. i really appreciate this video.
This was wonderful to read. God uses the bad for good, and he most definitely used that man to bring you closer to him. Many Christians that I have met have this issue of "Why do bad things happen to me?" Instead of "What can I learn from this bad thing?" or "what was the intention of this bad thing?" or "Was this bad thing even a bad thing or do I see it as bad caused by my own selfishness?" And I'm glad you saw the good in that situation. May you continue to grow in the faith.
Something that really renewed my faith as a young Christian was really getting into the Bible more. Alot of things in reality started to make sense to me after reading more and more of the living word.
I had people try to talk me out of faith too, GW, it made me go look for the answers. I went toward Jesus, not away, and He gave me those answers that made my faith even stronger and give those answers in confidence. Jesus said if we seek we’ll find Him and study under the Holy Spirit to be ready to give those answers.
I’m a Christian, and for the longest time, I thought atheism had reason and logic and that being a Christ-follower involved blind faith. Then I took an apologetics class and learned from guys like Timothy Keller and Ravi Zacharias, and I learned that there is a lot of reason that goes into understanding and believing that God is real and that believing in Him and following Him makes the most logical sense. Everyone has a belief system, everyone has to make some leaps of faith, and we all use reason and logic to understand the realities in front of us. I believe Christianity makes the most sense of the realities in front of us.
I believe cause and effect is the only tool we genuinely have to study our universe. If you apply that logic to the known history of the universe, you realize that at some point there was a cause without a cause. Whether we exist in a universe inside a universe where things happen spontaneously, or there is an everlasting being that can do things spontaneously, any conclusion after the fact are faith based.
@@tombennett6390 It was weird to see Rhett and Link in a video but he did a video a few days ago that he was playing Call of Duty Warzone and had the RUclipsr "Daithi De Nogla" in it so I thought it was weirder to see Nogla than Rhett and Link in Steven's videos.
"When I jumped ship I didn't jump into another ship, I jumped into the ocean and I took my wife and my children with me" Gotta hand it to him. That's a pretty good analogy for atheism
"The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you" - Werner Heisenberg
@Gromph Baenre I want citations. Make sure you include the part about how slaves must be legally released after seven years. Oh yeah...also the part about how Old Testament law was abolished with the first coming of Christ.
Gromph Baenre full and proper context is important. You can’t take your concept of American Slavery in the South and tack it on to Biblical “slavery.” Culture, treatment, mindsets and Levitical law all paint a different picture than the one you are seeing. Regardless, you’re seemingly inferring that if there is something that you disagree with then all of the Bible must be dismissed. Is that a logical determination? Or is it a presupposition that already determined your conclusions?
Rhett literally said he was digging for truth way before he left NC I don’t think they actually watched the whole thing from Rhetts side he just said it was easier to let go when he moved away from NC
Crowder cannot, nor will he not, nor can he afford to understand the deconversion process. I grew up in a very strict Mormon household in Utah. I went to college at a LDS church-owned university, BYU-Idaho. And it was in that setting where over the span of about five years I went through a long and hard process of thinking and researching and being introduced to various arguments and their rebuttals where I eventually became unconvinced of the church's truth claims. Rhett's story, for me was VERY relatable. The feelings he described were ones that I also had felt. So often he hit the nail on the head. And I would not be surprised if P.R./Damage Control Apologists like Crowder felt threatened by the compelling force of Rhett's story... and that's why he could either not watch the whole thing, or just not take all the facts into consideration in his criticisms. He can't _afford_ to understand. True, Crowder grew up Catholic. But he's the kind of person to rebel against what he's being taught which would likely prevent him from actually looking into why he believes what he believes. He would just say, "Okay sure" and go and do his own thing. Whereas Rhett was pretty much the opposite. He _actually did_ adhere to what he was indoctrinated into and went _deep_ into theological issues early on. Rhett was _hyped_ about his beliefs. The gave him meaning and energy! It was applied as an _actual worldview!_ Steven did not see the world in the same way. But even though Steven rebelled, whatever indoctrination he did receive still maintained a foothold in his mind. Usually when people feel like some organization, system or institution isn't working out for them, they tend to question its necessity in their life. When it comes to religion and government, you often can't question its necessity without questioning its veracity. So my guess is that Steven saw what was wrong with Canada, its culture, politics and economics and though various factors and life events became convinced that conservatism was the best outlook and application for a society. And in the U.S., conservatism is closely associated with religiosity and they share some similar values, so he's reincorporated himself generally back into what he was once indoctrinated into. With Rhett, the organization he was in _was_ working for him! Him and Link gained many beneficial opportunities from being in Campus Crusaders at their college and they excelled in that environment. But it was Rhett's diving into deeper theological, scientific and philosophical issues that caused him to question various ideas. He wanted to learn how his worldview was right. I don't doubt that his experience in L.A. opened him up to a very different perspective on Christianity and may well have been part of what caused him to question if Christianity was true at all. But that's what exposure to other worldviews does to people who have been dogmatic their whole lives. In North Carolina, Rhett came out of fundamentalism and loosened up his dogmatism. In California, I can only assume that he saw dogmatism in people from different worldviews and realized that the world doesn't revolve around his worldview, but other people believe the world _does_ revolve around theirs. Rhett cared about truth because that's what he was taught to care about. Steven cared about what he wanted out of life and whatever gave it to him is what he's sided with. He leans on Christianity to account for moral facts in the world, and then proceeds to live his life how he likes. He smokes and swears but that's okay because salvation doesn't depend on how closely you follow the standards of the gospel. It just depends on whether you're a believer or not.
@@ThomasJDavis Just because you smoke or say a bad word on a rare occasion doesnt mean youre going to hell, so im confused on "He smokes and swears but that's okay because salvation doesn't depend on how closely you follow the standards of the gospel. It just depends on whether you're a believer or not." Last I checked, not everyone who smoked went to hell. However, its also not if youre a believer or not. Just because you believe in God doesnt mean youre granted the heaven stairs. You have to accept his rule, understand youre sinful, and restrict yourself of sin as much as possible. And ask for forgiveness if you do. Its not as simple as "Well, Gods real, so im going to heaven." Following the gospel as much as possible is good, but God allowed us to have more freedom in what we can do compared to the Old Testament.
It's all about a relationship with God, it deepens it never stays the same, it's important to love one another, this is what I learned from God. Be Love.
"Love the sinner, hate the sin", is viewed flippantly as a clever turn of phrase, but when distilled down to its core meaning should be the #1 guiding tenet of every Christian. You can tell, because it is likely one of the most difficult to implement in your life.
but being gay isn’t wrong and the bible suggests it is, even though, as crowder clarified, it doesn’t say to treat gay people badly, it still implies that being gay is a sin. Which is unreasonable.
I noticed that Steven and the rest of the crew had a higher level of respect on this rebuttal video. Now, i'm not saying they're not respectful in others, what i'm saying is I give them props for taking into account that Rhett and Link were talking about personal journeys.
This reminds me of something a general authority in my church said: "Sadly enough, my young friends, it is a characteristic of our age that if people want any gods at all, they want them to be gods who do not demand much, comfortable gods and smooth gods who not only don’t rock the boat but don’t even row it, gods who pat us on the head, make us giggle, then tell us to run along and pick marigolds. Talk about man creating God in his own image! Sometimes - and this seems the greatest irony of all - these folks invoke the name of Jesus as one who was this kind of ‘comfortable’ God. Really?" -Elder Jeffrey R. Holland
Hey, a fellow member of Christ's church! There's a surprising amount of mormons here. Holland's the best. C.S.Lewis in "the problem of pain" also covered this topic well.
@@KnuttyEntertainment there are a bunch of LDS people here which is interesting since Crowder is pretty naughty from time to time. But he's one smart dude.
The discussion of faith reminds me of the story about a guy in the flood. A man is in his house when a flood warning hits, he steps out of his house and sees men getting into a pickup truck. The driver says," there's room man come on", but the man say, "No god will save me". the water has driven the man the second story of his house when a boat comes up. The driver of the boat says," come on man we have room," and again the man says, "No God will save me". The water has driven the man to the roof of his house when a helicopter comes over and the pilot says, "get in man we have room," and the man replies yet again," no God will save me". The man dies, and when he's at the foot of the throne he asks, "God why did you not save me", and God responds, "What do you mean? I sent you a truck a boat and a helicopter".
Exactly right. Great joke. Here's another similar one. A guy is working on the roof of a large building when he slips and starts sliding toward the precipice. He quickly prays, "God, I haven't prayed in a long time, but if you will save me, I swear I will change my life and do everything I'm supposed to do." At that point, he gets caught on a nail and stops sliding, so he adds, "nevermind God, I got it..."
Not That Guy I agree. I’m not religious either but I’m not anti religious. My lady is a Christian and Steven has stated many good points about his faith. I look at is a personal journey and who am I to say what another should believe. I’ll also state I’m a Mug Club member because I support Stevens integrity and political opinions.
@heehee mefunny same. i think its great for people to see things from both sides, and to practice being being open minded. gives me hope we can figure things out through words in the future. rather than digging a trench and sticking with a single opinion so strongly. who can be so sure about anything, right? everyone needs to be open to changing their perspective on things in life. its just being able to go with the flow ig 👍
@heehee mefunny Yeah, I think that's do in part that their beliefs are not rooted in their religion. They may attribute some of them to their religion but it's most likely due to them actually using their brains.
I can really appreciate the statement that it's ok that people have almost this childlike faith that nothing can tear them from and that some people have many moments of doubt. I'm the former and I have a lot of close relatives and friends that are the latter. Sometimes people think it's ridiculous to not question it but I've had some really tough times, and the only way I got through them was prayer and God's grace. I've been homeless and being that I pray and talk to God a lot, it obviously came up that I needed guidance and help. The miracle that came my way was incredible, we found a place at the very last minute in a completely unforeseeable event. Another of my aunt's became homeless at the same time and we moved in together. My mom had a precancerous tumor in her lower intestine that went unchecked for well over six years because no one would listen to her complaints of stomach pain and by the grace of God they caught it before it completely obstructed her bowel by mere days and the doctor said it was miraculous that it never crossed the precancerous threshold after all this time, all because of a technicality that forced her to switch doctors
I grew up in a christian home and 'left' the faith while I was living as a missionary. But It's science and logic and cosmology that brought me back to the Creator! Proverbs 2 1My son, if you accept my words and store up my commands within you, 2listening closely to wisdom and directing your heart to understanding; 3furthermore, if you call out to insight and lift your voice to understanding, 4if you seek it like silver and search for it like hidden treasure, 5then you will understand the fear of the Lord and discover the knowledge of God. 6For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding.
Derek May That’s absolutely false. The reason people think this is, Christians believe life was created by God. The majority of those involved in the science field, don’t believe life was created by God. In order to do science, they have to exclude God from all of their experiments since he doesn’t exist. Despite the majority of the world believing in a creator of some kind, go figure. I love science, I think it’s an amazing process but I also see that the field doesn’t allow God to be a consideration at all and that’s not science. You have to include all possibilities. They’re having to make theories up because they can’t accept God created anything. This is why Christians have a reputation for being “anti-science”. We’re not.
@@peppersadventure what about Georges Lemaitre, the astronomer, mathematician, Professor of Physics and Catholic priest, who came up with the modern 'big bang' theory?
“I jumped into the ocean and brought my wife and kids along with me” This makes me really sad for their souls. They seem very misguided and lost. Mark 8:36 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?
lindsnandez “Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. "Get out of here, baldy!" they said. "Get out of here, baldy!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.” 2 Kings 2:23-25
Nitro Mouthpiece bible verses can be messed up. Elisha and god didn’t seem to care about the souls of those 42 kids. Maybe the god in your bible isn’t so good? Seems strange to judge other people using a book that has verses like that.
Perhaps believing in souls or pretty much anything else there is no evidence for is what is misguided and lost? This makes me really sad for people who blindly believe what they are told. Me 10:39 For why would a person be so easily deceived and be willing to give a bunch of their money to known child molesters over the course of their life?
One of the first places where Rhett missed the mark is that he seems to be misusing the word "faith." I don't blame him for that, it's often defined wrong. Where he is at fault is never digging further. He realized that "California Christianity" as he called it was flawed, but then he walked away and didn't research further on what IS and what isn't Christianity.
LA is a weird place. Agreed, a lot of California churches are screwed and flawed (hell, there is one a couple blocks away from my church that hosts a drag queen story hour occasionally and advocates for BLM), but there are (thankfully) plenty of churches here that don't cave to political pandering or culture shifts.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate this video and the conversation. I’ve been a follower for a long time. I’ve watched this before but ran across it again and decided to comment. With the times personally I’ve been going through it resonates a million.I wish y’all did more discussions on this. Hope you see this.
I am someone who grew up without faith. I recently became politically enlightened and my husband and I decided to now join the Christian faith, thanks to you and others that have transformed my life for the better. So thank you, for the work you do for our country and the dedication you have to helping people understand the lies they’ve been fed.
As a fellow Christian I'm very happy for you. Contrary to popular belief, this is not an easy life to live and if you follow Christ, you will be despised as he was. (Matt 10:22, John 15:18) Always remember that we have a hope for tomorrow and don't worry. I'll leave you with two of my favorite passages. The first helps us push on when we stumble, Romans 7, the whole chapter. The second reminds us not to worry, that we are special to God and He will take care of us, Matthew 6:19-34. I hope I didn't annoy you by preaching to you over the internet, Keep fighting the good fight, sister.
Marcalo De Unnero It’s like they said god gave you the option to sin, and if you do the problem isn’t with the people it’s with god. I think being homosexual is okay you can do whatever you want but the problem isn’t with me it’s with him. It’s your life I can’t judge you for doing what you want.
Never stop learning. Research everything for yourself, and don't believe anything anyone else tells you unless you see it for yourself and trust what God the Creator, tells you. 🤗🤗🤗 WWG1WGA
This is encouraging to see that someone like Steven Crowder being used by God to bring people into the faith with unorthodox methods (sarcasm and humor). I'm glad Steven has the testicular fortitude to say what most of us Christians would love to say!
California has tons of beauty and great towns, I live outside Yosemite but plan to move to San Diego. Yes the political situation isn't the best but the negative stigma it gets is far too over hyped.
@@galacticrelic258 Yeah I agree I visited California many times and it's a gorgeous state, in regards to climate, natural beauty, amusement, etc. The politics are horrible, tho, and ruins the state for some people.
California certainly isn’t all bad, just mainly the bigger cities. I live out further east in the deserts and it’s great in terms of weather. If you avoid the bigger cities it’s not a bad place to live in.
Steven, after my whole life having a confusing relationship with God and not really understanding anything I was baptized in May 2019 when I accepted Christ after He called me to a personal relationship with Him and after I sought Him for a year. So blessed for God and all He has done for me. I love this series - would be great to get some of these talks on regular RUclips. Can't wait to be able to support you more financially when my husband and I reach a better financial standing.
+Megan Wells Was this relationship a one way street? I keep seeing people have a relationship with this guy called God, yet no BBQ photos, nobff necklaces, and birthday cards. What gives?
Crowder and pals cherry picked clips from the original podcasts and didn’t even address Rhett and Link’s main argument (especially link’s). Terrible discussion and this is coming from a Christian.
That would be an incredibly long video if he analyzed every single persons argument in those podcasts. He may have just decided to go to one perspective for the sake of time for himself and for the viewer. If he didnt even completely do Rhetts, itd probably be a 5+ hour video.
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil.” Proverbs 3:5-7 ESV
“Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. "Get out of here, baldy!" they said. "Get out of here, baldy!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.” 2 Kings 2:23-25
Though this judgement may at first seem harsh, the group must have included over 50 boys old enough to be out running in a pack and so they constituted something of a physical threat to Elisha. The author of Kings regularly show that contempt toward divinely called prophets is disastrous for God’s people. This translation and others use the term “ small boys, children or young boys”. The Original Hebrew text, refers to young men. This was not a small group of children making fun of a bald man. Rather, it was a large demonstration of young men who assembled for the purpose of mocking a prophet of God. The penalty was clearly justified, for to ridicule Elijah was to ridicule the Lord himself. The seriousness of the crime was indicated by the seriousness of the punishment. The appalling judgment was God’s warning to all who would scorn the prophets of the Lord.
It did say it in it’s original language. It’s not a mystery, it just takes a little digging is all. I could copy and paste the original Hebrew text and then it will say what I just explained? The Bible is a book that is not merely for reading. It is a book for studying so that it can be applied. Otherwise, it is like swallowing food without chewing and then spitting it back out again-no nutritional value is gained by it. Those who say the Bible has errors have their ears closed to the truth.
I’ve always just watched them for entertainment, so it kinda disappoints me that their more serious stuff is so misguided, but their usual stuff is still pretty entertaining.
I was an atheist as long as I had the ability to be “aware”. All the way up to the age of 25. There were many moments that lead me to seeking a spiritual journey, so I hitch-hiked across the country, intentionally leaning towards the Bible Belt. I went from LA, to North Carolina, back to San Francisco. By the time I got to Georgia, so many people and families that I came in contact with prayed over me, and many more along the way said “God bless you.” I finally returned the saying “God bless you, too.” to a lady that offered me a ride when I had another person coming to get me, so I declined. A miraculous series of events lead me to be gobsmacked on my knees and crying when the Lord slapped me across the face and asked, “Do you see it, yet?” After the 2016 Election, fighting my programmed brainwashing and massive depression, I started seeking the truth. Jesus rejuvenated and energized me and made it fully apparent that Jesus is the one true way and Lord. Nobody can ever convince me otherwise, and I’ve been saved for nearly 5 years now. Best thing to ever happen to me.
El Ricardo praise the Lord!! I grew up in the church. I almost envied people that didn’t grow up in the church because they had these amazing, beautiful, and miraculous “found God” moments. For me, “finding God,” when I always knew He was there, was incredibly hard. Fear has been the driving force behind all the decisions I made in life. Yet, I was always taught “fear is not of God.” I knew that something wasn’t right. My pastor talked about Revelations all the time and always drilled into my head we can die at any moment, so do we know where we’re going? I was so afraid of being left behind or going to hell that over the course of 10 years I went forward, several times, during alter calls, to be “saved.” I thought I was ready each time. That this time, it was real, but it never felt real, despite my best efforts. Something just wasn’t right deep within my soul and I didn’t know what it was. Until one day, when I was 26 years old, doing devotions. I was trying to find answers. At this point I was ready to give up, firmly believing that my name was never going to be, was not meant to be, in the Book of Life, no matter what I did. Then I read Romans 3:24 “Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.” There was a footnote in my study Bible that said “we are prisoners, and the ransom to set us free was Jesus’ blood on the cross. Jesus set us free.” (Paraphrase since I don’t have my Bible at this moment to look it up the exact verbiage.) Reading that footnote hit me in ways I cannot describe. For the first time in my 26 years of attending church and hearing the same stories from many different pastors and I never understood the significance of Jesus’ death on the cross until I read that footnote. I immediately burst into tears. I was sobbing into my Bible and asked the Lord to come into my heart and, this time, I knew it was real. A feeling of joy swept over me like a warm breeze on a cold day and my tears of anguish turned into tears of joy and I couldn’t stop laughing the whole rest of the day. It was the most beautiful and happiest moment I’ve ever experienced in life. I will be saved for 5 years this November.
Benjamin Barr I try to remember my roots and do the same. Those who are adamant in their hatred of Christianity / all religions are hard to speak to about it. I’ve found all you can do is lead by example, and plant little seeds until they feel like searching and the seed sprouts and blossoms.
@@toggaf1465yes, it gives more closure first off, it gives hope as to what will happen after life, and eventually after being Christian you tend to create a special relationship with god. A huge bond and that's why I dont know if rhett and link were real Christians. I dont think that if they were taught right or been the average christian, they would have quit believing
@@shaneandrews7177 The thing is though you can't make yourself believe or say "I believe, therefore I'm a believer". One must be convinced. If the scripture or theologian fails to convince someone to believe, then there isn't much one can do.
@@shaneandrews7177 24:20 perfectly describes christianity as well as scientific beliefs I mean look at the New Testament compared to the Old Testament. Things change with the times, which can be good or bad. Just to use your own comment as a rebuttal, if I have faith in the superior beings from a planet that no one can prove exists let’s just call it Z10278, sculpted earth and gave us all our beliefs and personalities and if we throw a minimum of $25,000.00 into a mass bond fire, and dedicate a minimum of 25% of your life to hearing a overpaid preacher that uses their tax exemption card for the church for personal purposes talk about the Z10278 scriptures and that’s the only way to an after life would you change faith? No? Well why not? Because it’s a hypothetical, because “god has talked with you personally” maybe “it sound way to outlandish to even consider it to be true” well if you picked the last option “WElcoME tO CHriStIAniTY” sit down and strap up.
@@SimplyABoomer_69 If christianity was disproved I would definitely pay for your bonfire with tax payers money because if you found scripture then I'd be happy for you guys. Anyway a lot of lives are based off of faith. And anyway who would want to create a fiction book about a fake man who everyone should believe in. What would he be getting out of it especially since it would be a secret. Nobody knows who wrote the bible but only Jesus would have a reason to write about it
Why is a Christian being fine with homosexuality great but not being fine with it but loving the people anyway not? Loving people you disagree with is easy and everyone does it.
You're talking about people who don't believe that loving people you disagree with is easy, or even possible. Tell a liberal that you voted for Trump and are pro-life, but that you love and respect them no matter what their political beliefs are. See if you get love and respect in return.
Liberals/leftists/dems/feminists thrive on hate and disorder. For control and power. I know that not all people with those labels are like that, but until I see sane liberals, celebrities, dem candidates, and feminist activists I will continue label those groups as such.
Lance B. like a general question, i'm not saying i agree or disagree, but why do people get upset over things that somebody isn't directly affected by?
I like Texas Christianity best. But sometimes Georgia Christianity is pretty good. Just make sure to stay away from New York Christianity and Chicago Christianity.
A geographical location does not change the validity of your faith. There are true students of The Word and followers of Jesus Christ here in California. If anything, the sin that surrounds us causes us to seek the helmet of salvation, the shield of the faith, the breastplate of truth, the sword of the Spirit, and the gospel of Peace. The “Jesus People” of the 70’s started here in Costa Mesa with Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel and continues with Greg Laurie of Harvest in Riverside. Our state has many great teachers and students of The Word. Please give us some peace, brothers and sisters. Division within the church is warned against. God bless all my brothers and sisters in Christ.
I am a Christian, but this video really misrepresents them and pulls that especially and all thing with California out of context. In the video he says this awakening really began in high school and talks about the path of it. Just here on their defense, I still stand strong in my own faith
This is what happens when your standards are out of obligation and not conviction. When you’re surrounded by all opposition, your foundations are shaken. I hope they come out of this as a lesson to gain a personal testimony
Isnt that also for the opposite side? They were religious to start with because their parents were, and they grew up in a very religious place. It took them being around people that arent religious, and mostly dont care about religion to change their mind on religion.
Ainz Ooal Gown you could say the same thing for atheists who turn to religion. This is true for both of my parents. They were raised non-religious and when they later learned in life (in their mid 20s) about Jesus, and came to the decision that Christianity was true. They completely changed their views. My point is that it works both ways. Thus, your comment fails to quantify an argument against op.
William F Or that person is easily peer pressured. Or maybe they haven’t really dug into the foundations of their beliefs and are lukewarm in their faith. Either way one could say exactly what you did about any viewpoint so it fails as an argument.
@@natev5831 Thats the point of my comment. Some people are raised into and dont want it later in life. I dont believe in a god, but I think people should believe in what they want. I believe in science, some people dont. My point is it works both ways, the original comment was basically saying that they only changed because they were around people that werent. My comment was to fight that with the same thing happens, just on the opposite side. In your words, "your comment fails to quantify an argument" as what you said is pretty much what im saying against OP.
@@brightgarinson3099 I find religious types hold zero moral high ground to judge others. I am not obligated to abide by the tenets of your fictional shit religion
What are your thoughts on Rhett & Link's most recent video about their shift in belief?
Just your daily reminder that Epstein didn't kill himself.
StevenCrowder i think it is important that people are open about their ideas and beliefs
Reality is whatever doesn't go away when you stop believing in it.
Delusion is whatever is only evidenced where people do believe.
If you are having a crisis of faith, and no one is actively gas-lighting you, your faith is in something you either chose to believe, or were told to believe.
"If what we believe is true, it can not be harmed by investigation.
If what we believe is not true, it needs to be harmed."
-This quote speaks of religious ideology, but can apply to all things from scientific understanding, or any other context you'd like to apply it to.
I was surprised. I agree with you! I was taught to hate the sin, not the sinner. Midwest, Roman Catholic here...
A person can be morally aligned either way whilst being agnostic. They feed off the belief of those around them and use that as their moral compass
These two parts of RUclips were never supposed to meet.
Best comment 😆
Exactly what I thought.
Now, everything shows up in my feed, besides my subscriptions. Maybe one out of every ten recommendations is one of my subscription.
I know! My only Rhett and link are my favorites ! (Other than Crowder) Rhett and link were my escape from politics and Crowder is my go-to with politics
Seems like there's actually quite a few conservative Mythical Beasts. Who knew?
“I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.”― C.S. Lewis
Jonathan ooo I like that quote!
Pretty awesome! Thanks I’ve never heard that one
@@berenguerx those centuries of science and knowledge weren't delayed by Christianity, but by corrupt leaders who used their "Christian faith" to control others. Looking back at history, it's crazy to see how much power Popes and other religious leaders had when killing off ancient astronomers and scientists
@@berenguerx Lol Scientific Materialism has done more damage to scientific progress than any religion ever has, and is still doing damage to it on a regular basis. While men of faith have done more for the field than any scientific materialist ever will, and I don't just mean in ages past, I mean recently too.
If you knew the history of science, you'd now the line you just spoke was a crock cooked up back in the 1800's by charlatans trying to look clever.
Just beceause we know why the sun rises does not mean that it does not rise from the horizon, it's all a matter of perspective.
@Gabe Norman I wouldn't necessarily say that, but I would agree that Scientific Materialism is a toxic element that motivates man to comprimise the field of scientific progress simply to satisfy their own ego's. Motivating celebrities scientists to actively disseminate misinformation and teach unsubstantiated opinions as scientific fact, all with a facade of scientific legitimacy. While their peers actively to to hinder real scientific progress because some of the finding coming out of the cutting egde fields make them feel uncomfortable, or challenge scientific axioms upon which they have built their entire world view.
The moment someone decides to pin their entire world view on taking all the widely accepted scientific theories of their time, is the moment they become fanatically invested in making sure we don't learn anything that might throw those theories into question. What's worse is that Materialists have a bad habit of entering into a kind of Dogmatic Rationalism, where they start to believe that everything they choose to believe must be right because they came to their conclusion rationally, no matter how much or how little reason or logic came into play in their decision making. For example Richard Dawkins entire argument is that we should dismiss religion because it is the more adult thing to do, which is little more than an appeal to our childish desire to appear grown up.
In other words the moment you convince yourself you have the authotiy to dismiss things out of hand, because you have convinced yourself of your own infallible rationality, you aren't looking at the world in a rational way, your expressing an act of blind faith in your own infallibility. You might as well say, "I believe it therefore it must be true."
Often theists have the luxury of knowing that they are not flawless, and that their world view is not entirely rational. Thus making them a lot better at screening themselves for bias. Their is a reason that "Christian Scientists" are seen as quacks while their Materialist equivalents are paid loads of cash to spew outdated or outright false information at an audience on a regular basis.
I would never think Rhett and Link would be in a video for Steven
It is jarring
It's a real slap to the face
Yea same lol
Lol, me neither! I just started the video, but this is a pleasant surprise
Its very strange
hugging a gay person is wrong? Jesus dined with tax collectors and prostitutes and loved them so i don’t see how that conclusion could be made
Exactly. He was even criticized for socializing with those people by the Pharisees and Sadducees, who were supposed to be the religious leaders at the time
oh how the times have NOT changed lmao
Not only that, depending on how you believe the Bible should've been translated into English, it may very well have never said anything about consensual, homosexual relationships.
It may very well be that God never wanted to tell us we can't be gay.
Anecdotally, I prayed and had a crisis and begged for God to give me a sign because I was afraid of me being gay, but now I feel confident that I can be a man, love God, and have a boyfriend all at the same time.
@@CooperDooper38 pussy still better but keep doing you , brotha 👊
@@Mharve can't say I agree, but titties still look fine af to me, so at least I've got that goin' for me 👀
"Christianity is a white religion"...
Middle eastern Jesus has entered the chat...
considering he almost certainly wasnt a real person in history...kinda hard to enter the chat
@@anubisgod23 what are you talking about? Its historical fact he was real. Just study roman history during the occupation of Jerusalem and they mention him. Dumbass
@@anubisgod23 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ
@@mightguy911 ahahah classic. Tacitus has been largely debunked and shown to be false evidence for Jesus.
I mean, considering Jesus is literally whitewashed, I would say that where they were raised, and especially in today's society, Christianity is a white religion. That doesn't mean it is everywhere, but from the standpoint of where they grew up and became faithful, it definitely was.
“The church is very white, male, and straight”
If you think this, just look at the Christianity in Ethiopia or Latin America compared with the world’s most atheist cities and countries in (predominantly white) Europe. Perhaps the problem is that the people you choose to associate with tend to be very white, male, straight, and in many cases, atheist.
Atheism is predominantly White and Chinese/ Japanese. That’s it. The rest of the world believes in something.
Yeah Catholicism exists very predominantly in places like Mexico, Philippines, Brazil, etc
I like this comment. Not much to add, just that the Ethiopians have the best version of Christianity, and the Jehovah's witnesses have the best Bible.
@@slowpoke3864 to bad the jehovah witnesses arent actually Christian's, to be a Christians there are something's that you simply have to believe and one is that jesus is the eternal god which jehovah witnesses dont believe.
They couldn't have been more wrong. It's actually predominantly non-white. Lol.
At first I was surprised to see Rhett and Link on Crowder, then I read the comments and was surprised to see how many crossover fans there was between the two.
Comedy is comedy. They are California but GMM has some nice middle America insights as well. I am sad they lost their faith. So many blessings they are denying for themselves.
Eternal Guard of Christ true, 1 Corinthians 10:12 - so if you think you are standing firm, take heed lest you fall
I’m quoting a Christian rapper named Bizzle “they say christianity is a white mans religion , tell that to the Christians in Ethiopia who didn’t have to be enslaved by the white man to get it”
Damn
From an Antiochian Orthodox Christian to the Ethiopian Orthodox, may God bless them☦
Love Bizzle, he spits strait fire!
Jesse V yes sir he does
@Angie W Culture is what devides people, not color.
To call Christianity a “white man religion” is to ignore the fact that Christianity was founded in the Middle East. Even looking at the congregation of my church, I can tell you that is not true. I go to a Catholic Church in England and the diversity within my church is overwhelming, almost every other person is from somewhere different.
Charlotte ur hot
It was made in the Mediterranean, Africa.
Ours too. Our church is filled with Chinese and Black Americans. I would argue that most whites now reject Christianity.
Charlotte in the Roman Empire.it was the middle easy but there were a lot of Europeans because it was Roman empire
@@mrpanda2655 Dude leave her alone. She gets to have thoughts and a voice without thirsty creepers commenting on her looks. She knows what she looks like. Get back in your cave.
That's not California Christianity. That is Unitarianism.
As a true Christian, living in California, true Christianity is the same here as it was in Florida and NYC and Springfield, Mo.
Faith isn't a blind belief that you feel guilty when you fail to believe. Faith is knowing God's Word, and acting on the confidence you have in it. A testing of faith shows our weaknesses and misunderstanding, not God's failures.
Ernie Miller you clearly fail to understand the definition of faith, if u have faith in something you can’t know it’s true otherwise it wouldn’t be faith
The difference is between faith and blind faith. Blind faith has no foundation: it lacks any evidence. You can have evidence to believe in your faith and still have doubts. The virtue of faith is that you still belive and act like you should, even in times of doubt.
We can't know absolutely, of course, but we believe evidence has been provided that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that God exists, and that we should therefore follow his commandments.
@@BigSunshine55 Confidence can be shaken, evidence can be overridden by new evidence. Faith on the other hand need not be blind, but must be unshakeable and child-like (both innocent and ignorant), as Jesus says in the Books of Mark and Matthew. Innocent not in the sense that you are naive to the evils of the world, but innocent faith in the sense that you approach belief in God and his Biblical teachings as a child would: without the adult cynicism and over-examination. We must accept as human beings that there are some things we cannot know, cannot understand or fathom, and very likely will never be capable of grasping in any capacity in our mortal bodies. This is not shameful, and by contrast, the Bible frequently showcases instances of shaming those who claim to "know" and have everything figured out about God, morality, and life.
Devin W Make up your mind. Either you don’t know, or there’s no reasonable doubt. You have to pick one, they can’t both be true.
And if it’s the latter, it isn’t faith, it’s just knowledge.
@@taffysaur This page is a bit lengthy, but it's important to define what "faith" is. I think we start off with the wrong definition, we wind up arguing against a caricature.
www.tektonics.org/whatis/whatfaith.php
If we look at faith as being loyal to believing on what someone will do because of their reputation on things they have done before, it changes the perspective, if only a little. If you have a friend who you can call at 3 am because you are in a bind and they have always been there for you, you have faith in that individual. The assumption that faith must be blind should be a non-starter.
Saying Christianity is a white man religion is like credited the content of a letter to the mailman.
Who would say that it's white man religion? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Liberal fruitcakes use that argument all the time.
Well they ruined it for black and Latinos which use to be extremely religious. Now just evil .
Just to clarify im talking about liberals
As a white man that follows a true white religare, I thank you for this comment.
Christianity isn’t a white man’s religion but I understand why people say that. There’s always pictures and paintings of “white Jesus” everywhere but I wonder if most white Christians know that Jesus was probably a brown man judging by how Israeli people look and according to some bible verses, a black man at that. I think many people around the world still think Jesus was a blue eyed, light brown-haired white guy lmao
“Christianity is a white religion”
Jesus: was born in Nazareth
So?
2D it is not, there are 390 million black christians just in Africa.
@@forducksnake1571 Mexico's major religion is Christianity.
@@forducksnake1571 you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about..
@@forducksnake1571 that's so far from the truth though. Maybe (in assuming) you live in America where all you hear about and see is white Christians and that's how you came up with this
The problem with califorian society is that they stress being “nice” over being loving
Yes
people in California are not nice.. they want you to be accepting , not nice, not loving, not helpful, accepting .
And they're not nice at all
By nice, you mean, enabling all their deviant and anti-family values.
Be nice, leave the pedophiles alone.
If you disagree, they will transform into dragons.
Generalizations are always wrong. As soon as you say Christians are ... women are ... Americans are ... you're wrong.
I find it irritating when Gerald gets continually interrupted when he’s making a valid point.
I love it, gerald is a fuckface
I think it's just because they have a time limit and Gerald is probably the type to be long winded.
To be fair to Steven, I don't think he means to. From this show it is evident to me that they are truly good friends. I think Steven sometimes just has a hard time waiting his turn to talk. This happens to me all the time. I'll get an idea in my head from something someone else said and I just want to respond to them. It's not necessarily an intentional thing.
And most of the time Steven interrupts Gerald Steven just talks about ridiculous things. I love both of them, but it is annoying and I do feel bad for Gerald
Yeah, I think that what happened is what happens with most friend groups, they all get excited, especially Steven and he speaks a little more because he is the leader.
I myself am a Christian and watch GMM and fell that their content isn't as great as it once was, but I still like them and pray for them too.
I used to watch them every morning but their content just got stale and boring.
I agree. They seems to have lost the joy the once had. Their recent return to their childhood town felt like a desperate attempt to reconnect with the place where they were closer to God.
Same brother. these are two guys who I looked up to and were a part of my childhood and teenage years. And it's sad to think how far they've come from where they started.
I feel very similar but I also felt like maybe I had just out grown their target audience.
Because it’s no longer two guys and a camera, they now run a production company
No, Christianity isn't white, straight, and Male. YOUR Christianity was white, straight, and Male because you made it that way.
Jordan Grant Where they grew up, Christianity was white, straight, and male. Christianity can be whatever you want it to be, because it’s a religion. And religions are made by humans.
@@gonzalezm244 Is this not exactly what I just said? It is what you make it.
Jordan Grant I’m agreeing to an extent with you. The Christianity that they grew up with was white, straight, and male mostly because of the beliefs in their particular region and church. It doesn’t mean that they actively made it that way, it was just their circumstances. They tried to change that as the years went by, but it ultimately led them out of their faith.
@@gonzalezm244 That's not what was implied. They applied the version of Christianity they were taught to every Christian. The reasons they gave for leaving had nothing to do with actual doctrine. Their reasons were based on doctrine they assumed was legit. It wasn't.
@@gonzalezm244 They're absolutely free to believe what they want, but they are the ones who not only chose to make it a spectacle, but, in doing so, to belittle every person who is still.a believer.
“the church is very while, male, and straight”
The entirety of Catholic Mexico, central, and South America..... UMM WTF?!?!
Jigamanx2 intercity churches are huge too
@@GiantJanus All the black Churches in the east coast and the south also are confused that the Church is white.......Southeast Asia, especially the philippines have many large Churches as well. Saying Church is very white makes no sense
You racist or something? Don't judge people because of their skin color.
Lol don’t forget the millions of churches in Africa
@@scottgsarmwrestling4639 it is the Caucasian religion, or are people lying, covering and bearing false witness now, ... SHow me anyone but Caucasians in the book where Noah lands in the Caucass mountains.
Waiting... Don't be lame or overly PC... Waiting...
I’m a Christian! Have been my whole life. I’ve had many meaningful, genuine friendships with Muslims, extremeee atheists, Gays and Lesbians. Especially at a very liberal college! And I played rugby (95% lesbians). And my beliefs have NEVER affected the genuine love I have for them as people. They knew I was Christian and any bad experiences they had with Christians didn’t affect their ability to form bonds with me either! I hung around a bunch of new age hipsters for a few years and we were always respectful of each other’s beliefs. After learning about their strong beliefs, and seeing how many some could be convincing, I still never lost my faith in God and Jesus. I am very glad you did this video and set some things straight. I think my Christianity is just very much based and love and how Jesus loved people. And having a relationship with God. Simple as that.
Christ did the same.
@@retrograd332 THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HATE CHRISTIANS. FUCK OFF! Do you REALLY think you're the FIRST FUCKING PERSON to "share the gospel" with us? We grew up in a country with Christian foundations. We hear "under God" every day in school, "God Bless You" whenever we sneeze, "I'll pray for you" when we're sick, and you think we SOMEHOW aren't getting the message. FUCK THE FUCK OFF!!!! LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE! How about I preach the gospel of how ridiculously stupid your belief structure is or that every single facet of your anointed prophet is a mirror image of an older, POLYTHEISTIC belief? So let me get it right, YOU are the FIRST PERSON to understand the scripture to it's accurate tone and ONLY YOU can convince we "false religion" followers of the right way.
For those of you Christians reading this, if you want to be likeable to atheists, don't try to convert us. Better, more educated people than you have tried, but you all have EXACTLY the same arguments, and we have EXACTLY the same rebuttals. Until you can overcome the BASIC objections, you can take your Bronze Age fairytales and shove them up your ass. You're welcome to share your gospel with me, but we get to take turns. You read from the Bible for 10 minutes, then I'll read from a book of my choosing. I think we'll start with 50 Shades of Grey and go downhill from there. This is why we hate religious people. The ARROGANCE is staggering.
Logical Lion you ought to take your own advice.
Dynamite Fresh sometimes it would come up in a conversation with some of them, but I never forced it.. mostly just explained why I believed what I did, if they were curious. I think for them, meeting a Christian that genuinely valued a friendship with them before anything else, didn’t follow their stereotypes they had of Christians. I think that can be the best way to getting them to open their minds to Christ and look into it more. I never tried to change them. People have to be open to it. If they are not, I will still enjoy my friendships with them.
@@d.r.l.9314 About trying to preach to people? I don't. I respond in kind to people who do. I do take my own advice. My advice is to leave people alone. Don't preach to me and I won't mock you. It's a fair exchange. Now begone, peasant.
"I jumped into the ocean and brought my wife and kids with me"
Not the best choice if there's not a shore for you to be swimming towards
Felobrendon especially when the ship you were sailing on was heading to the shore
Ya for real that made me cringe like "I jumped into the water and I took my wife and kids with me" way to kill your whole family gosh like that kinda makes me sick.
Yeah, though I do think that was the point he was trying to make. I think a lot of christians I've known over the course of my life assume if anyone leaves the faith its because they thought there was something better out there they were chasing, but in my own conversations with former believers almost every time they expressed that they didn't see something better, in many cases they infact had stopped believing years prior to their official public deconversion but it took them many years to leave the church despite believing the faith to be misplaced in part specifically because they didn't see anything better out there, didn't see anything to be gained from not at least continuing to act like they believed, and it terrified them to risk alienation from all their christian friends and family and to live with out some sort of religion after having one most if not their entire life. Ultimately they indicated that they reached a point where they acknowledged that they'd been drowning the entire time, they felt they had just deluded themselves to believing they were ever on a boat, and only by abandoning the fantasy that there was a boat that would carry them to shore could they begin to swim some where, regardless of where it led them, and have the hope of getting anywhere alive.
My guess is you would disagree with that sentiment and thats fine, but thats my interpretation of this guys' statement based on other former believers I've spoken with. Still a dark, terrifying statement to make, but I think thats the emotions they genuinely felt and hoped to convey so others could understand how hard it was for them to leave even after they reached a point where they felt the evidence suggested Christianity was false, and could no longer convince themselves otherwise to maintain the aspects of Christianity they valued and appreciated. I think its the same reason scientologists, mormons, muslims, hindu, and former believers of various other main stream religions also stay in their religions even in the face of powerful evidence that their faith has been misplaced, when your entire life and community is built around a belief system, you have every reason to at least keep acting like you believe even if mentally you can not honestly say there isn't significant reason to doubt the religion itself. You really have to have a strong conviction to follow the path to truth no matter where it leads and what it costs you to leave a religion in that situation, even more so if you have a wife and children who you'll be pulling along with you. Maybe you don't agree with his evaluation of the truth of christianity, but personally I at least admire his desire for searching for truth even at the expense of his personal comfort.
The Bible says that the man has the responsibility of his family the man is the head of the household if you think jumping in the ocean is okay it is on you
@@DanTheMeek Very well put
I think there's some pretty blatant misrepresentation here: "Why did you only start digging for the truth once you moved to California?"
They didn't. Rhett spends the first 40 minutes of his podcast talking about how he'd been reading things that made him question the validity of the Bible and discussing them with his wife, who cried through every conversation. Serious questioning of faith was occurring well before they moved to California. When they later moved to California, things continued in this direction.
Please don't straw-man them just because you don't want to watch the whole story
@Tripleblade 82I'm not sure I believe that though. I think it's a very real chance that Rhett's questioning would've led him to lose his faith even without moving to California. I don't know that for sure, but to imply that it's only because of their move to Cali is misrepresentation.
@Tripleblade 82 I should also say that not only had he questioned some beliefs, he had changed his mind about many of them. Creationism was fundamental to his belief in god, and when he no longer believed that genesis was literally true, he began to doubt the validity of the whole Bible. He didn't know what was accurate and what was just a story at that point.
this comment deserves more likes
Clay Goeke all crowder does is bitch about things in his echo chamber and if you disagree he makes fun of you in a very passive aggressive manner
@@thethespianx9185 yea, basically no better then the smelly libs
They really did fell in the White-Christian-Male-Privilege-Guilt trap.
Sad. Hope, both of them and their families will find the truth.
DanJan09 yep. Agreed. Kinda selling their souls if you think about it.
DanJan09 they won’t
It’s sad man. I watched it happen. They’ve slowly slipped into this state over the years. I guess that’s what can happen when your not grounded, and surrounded by liberals. I really hate it because they were a good normal voice of reason that had massive reach.
Matthew Nichols agreed. And they were really fun to watch and listen to. It is sad to see the decline, which of course is seen as “bravery” and “compassionate” by a lot of not-so-sane people.
Matthew Nichols I could not agree more. I just knew it when they moved to LA that things were doomed. They jumped into the shallow LA lifestyle and it changed them in a very negative way. It’s frustrating to me because I liked them so much. I wish they never left North Carolina.
This makes me sad. I remember watching them “religiously” for a couple years, but over time, I did feel a slow change in the spirit/atmosphere of the show.
I once had a lesbian boss. I am a devout Christian that believes 100% in the authority of scripture. Yes, sex outside of Biblical marriage between a man and woman is clearly condemned as sin. That being said, scripture also says that sinners are lost in their sin and that, before Christ saved me, I was lost too.
So, while I couldn’t affirm her lifestyle, I treated her with much grace and care as I would anyone that’s made in the image of God. She later told me that, of all the other workers, she was most comfortable around me, even though I did not affirm her lesbianism. Never did I hate her.
Jestloo did you share the gospel with her?
So I agree that sex should be within the confines of marriage but I can’t justify calling it a sin. I haven’t found any verses that state or even imply it, and there are verses that are very explicit about what is a sexual sin. Do you know of any verses that I’m missing?
That’s awesome man. That’s the love of Jesus.
@@sterlinghamiltonracing6487 I suppose it depends on which version of the Bible you study. I personally study the King James version in which 1 Corinthians 6:18 which reads, "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body." But I know that other versions of the Bible replace "fornication" with "sexual sin."
@@sterlinghamiltonracing6487 I recommend you go through 1 Corinthians 7. It talks about how people are tempted with sexual immorality (sex outside of marriage). Also, 1 Corinthians 6:18, Paul tells us that this is a Sin. Then we are reminded in Hebrews 13:4, the holiness and honor of marriage between a man and a woman.
Lost my Christian faith in the Military, due to life-style and friends. I then had a heart to heart with Jesus during a mental crisis and allowed His love back in.
All religions are bullshit
@@DaUnaDistanza I personally find the notion of the "perseverance of the Saints" to be dubious at best. Are you going to argue that Judas Iscariot is saved, or at the very least that he never had Christ's spirit depart from him? Or that he, one of the apostles, wasn't actually a disciple of Christ, despite being, you know, one of the apostles?
The scriptures you refer to assume that the individuals don't make a choice, of free will, to stop believing. They're not talking about those that choose to spiritually die again.
shinto516 Hallelujah!!!!
Yep, God and Jesus certainly seem to be alive and well and welcoming the 114,000 dead and counting into heaven
"white religion"
And here I am and all the other dark-skinned Latinos, not knowing that we were actually white all this time.
I guess now I can go for one of those "white privileges" that I hear so much about.
Sorry I know that this is a old comment but I’m truly confused. Do u not know that Latin America is Christian due to brutal colonisation by white people? People don’t call it a white religion cause all it’s followers are white or it’s god is white but because white people has used it as a weapon and white washed it to such a extent that it convinced dark skinned Latinos and indigenous ppl that being slaves was their god given position and tried to justify it through the bible.
@@vibes6255 I am a Christian and I agree. Many people in the past who happened to be white have twisted the words of the Bible to support their corrupt endeavors
@@aedankennedy8263 Yh it’s good to be aware of the positives and negatives of everything cause obviously some ppl are evil and can twist ur faith. No point in denying it we gotta defend against it.
When he says " the church is very white, male and straight."
Every non-white christian human cracking there necks to stare at him in a angry or confused look... 👁
97% of black people are religious.
They must have never been to a southern baptist church.
My choir teacher Dr. Shingles would like a word with him...
They were probably looking for excuses to not believe it sounds like.
I'll be honest, both of the first two are ridiculous- the church exists worldwide and even in majority white countries it still has sinificant non-white members. and I'd hazard a guess that 50-55% of the church are female, even if only sentimentally or because women tend to live longer on average. as for the last, the true church is straight, but the church in general has gone kind of apostate on that point, so, yeah....
I love that Gerald B quote...”The Bible has never been gray on the LGBT community...but it was also never gray on how we treat them.”
presendieu samuel exactly. it says it in black and white. It says we should KILL THEM. Nothing like the love of god right? haha
D Kirk clearly you don’t understand the Bible. Do you see any Christians going around stoning disobedient children, adulterers and homosexuals? Exactly. Either the Christians are wrong about our understanding of the Bible or you are wrong about your interpretation of scripture. We could have a meaningful conversation about this but you have to be willing to accept that you could be wrong about the way you see the Bible.
@@dkirk_official The Bible also mentions a stark difference between the old law (where that sin was punished with death), and the new law of Christ (where we don't punish sin by killing the one who committed it). You don't seem to understand the difference between the then and now, you don't understand why Jesus came in the first place, and you don't understand how Jesus changed the entire system of punishment for sin.
@@dkirk_official Nothing like making an ignorant statement and getting shut down in the following comments by facts, right? haha
(Next time, try actually learning a subject in-depth before commenting it. Instead of just parroting what you heard some other simpleton say. You just look extremely ignorant and naive. "haha".)
@@dkirk_official Show me where a homosexual is killed for being gay in the Bible.
“The church is very white, and male, and straight.” The Apostles, Mary Magdalene, Priscilla, The Greeks (who were mega gay; granted anyone who was gay would hence forth deny the lifestyle for God), The Romans, The Middle East, Africa, Mexico, Asia: “Am I a joke to you?”
Me an Asian woman: am I joke to you
@J MS
It’s like they scratched the surface and then stopped digging any deeper :P
What do you mean there where no white people in the middle east, northern Africa and Greece which is where the events of the Bible take place so you are factually incorrect
john hold no he’s saying that all those places do not have white people but are still in the church
@@knotadoctor1455
Greeks are generally considered white. As for the semites and related peoples in the middle east and north Africa, they're generally not considered "white". Arabs, Jews, Ethiopians, Copts, Berbers, etc. Were there some "white" (what even does that mean?) people there? Sure. Were they the predominant group, especially among the Jews? No. Jesus isn't white. He's a Hebrew. A semite. Probably looks something like what the Copts look like.
I was having my doubts about Christianity over the past few months and a few nights ago my older brother and his friend were out longboarding. My neighborhood has a lot of hills and they went down the biggest one they could find. The turn came too fast and my brothers friend was able to jump into the grass but my brother was t so lucky. He impacted on his ribs right on a curb after going 30 mph or more. He went to the hospital and I prayed all night long. He tore a cardiac valve completely off and pretty much destroyed his liver. The surgeon removed ten percent of his liver and fixed the valve. It was supposed to be two or three surgeries but luckily it was only one. He somehow didn’t break any ribs though. He’s in the hospital and will be released tomorrow. The day after his surgery a new doctor came in and looked him dead in the yes and said “You should be dead” and two days later he’s not. This helped me see that God is real and he does great things. He worked through those surgeons to save my best friend and brother. That’s my story and it’s very recent.
That's awesome to hear! My own personal experiences have taught me that lesson, too: God definitely can and will use bad situations to call us back to Him. It's not always easy in the moment, but He always has good plans for us in the end.
Amen
Someone getting lucky is evidence that YOUR God is real?
@@1ceYourPimpHand luck doesn’t exist
@@HeavyHeartsShow Something unlikely happens*
Fixed.
“Christians are so white”
Have you heard of southern baptists?
Shen N. Annagins exactly idk what North Carolina (I think they said that’s where they’re from) is like but my church (Baptist) in rural Missouri is probably 40% Indian, Mexican, and black. Not only just members of the church, but also music leaders, spiritual leaders, etc.
Funny , in black and I know very few white Christians apart from the ones in tv where I live
@@DeepFriedChumChum I grew up in an Independent Baptist church in Missouri. Whereas the church I went to was predominantly white, it was never on purpose, thats just who lived in the area. I'm not sure how they made the connection of white=Christian. In KC I see far more black or Latino at churches now. I used to like R&L.
Madeline Gregg yeah I think most churches around where I am are mostly white which it is just because who lives here
majority of Christians aren’t white.
Rhett and Link's entire argument here rests on the faulty premise that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle or behavior then you must also hate them. They act as if you must support everything a person does in order to love them. The actual Christian approach is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.
Anthony Bauguess the Christian approach is to let a man in the sky judge people for something they cannot help. They discuss gay people in this video and the Bible states being gay is a sin. Why would god create a gay person if he believes it’s a sin? If god truly has a plan for everyone then that wouldn’t make any sense. This is an obvious contradiction. Also if you have a belief that a gay persons lifestyle is a sin, you can “love them” but you will always have this belief in the back of your mind that they are a sinner and what they are doing is wrong, when it is in fact not. There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is not inherently evil, it hurts no one, it affects no one else’s life and those who are gay cannot choose not to be gay. And yet somehow this is inherently wrong. How can you believe something like that? Because a book told you to?
A person is no more or no less their actions. If you hate someones action, you hate that person. "Love the sinner, hate the sin" is massive cognitive dissonance that requires massive amounts of mental gymnastics and most often it makes you a worse person because you end up not really giving a shit about people who do things your made up ideology (religion) disagrees with. And then you end up being a condescending person sitting in a bubble silently judging others thinking your religion and beliefs are correct when they really have no validity at all.
@@TheLarknessMonster My mom hates the fact that I fidget with anything in arm's reach and can't sit still (thanks adhd). Guess you're only possible interpretation is that she hates me eh? Funny, in day to day life there's things that drive me up the wall with the people in my life, like my dad's unbelievably loud snoring echoing through the walls of the house right now. Who knew?! Thanks to you I just discovered I hate my dad :O
@@drenathor ADHD is an issue that negatively affects your life and the ones around you. Snoring the same. Being gay? How does that negatively do anything to anyone else or the gay person? Why would anyone go hating the aspect of being gay?
I'd argue your mom hates the aspect of you that is ADHD and you hate the aspect of your dad that is him snoring. That doesn't mean you 100% hate your dad or your mom 100% hates you..... But it wouldn't be a stretch to say they hate an aspect of you, that is un-separable from you as a person. Hate is a strong word, I can't stand snoring either. But I can't say I hate it, especially if the person can't get rid of it.
@@TheLarknessMonster Well you said, "A person is no more or no less their actions. If you hate someones action, you hate that person." But it's nice to see you now say, "That doesn't mean you 100% hate your dad or your mom 100% hates you". Welcome to the club of hating someones action without hating that person. Guess you're as good at mental gymnastics as any of the Christians here :)
Joking aside, that phrase doesn't occur anywhere in the Bible so I don't think it was supposed to be taken literally. I think the hate the sin part is shorthand for saying that "sin" shouldn't be tolerated within the Christian's personal life as it would hider their relation with God. However they arn't God and it's not their job to hate, punish, etc. others for sins in their life. I think pride and arrogance being something that most people struggle with it would be SUPER easy to fall into the trap of Christians (or members of any group with rules to abstain from) looking down on everyone outside their click and trying to distance themselves from them.
IDK, maybe I don't get the phrase either but that's just what I always assumed it was supposed to mean at least (for whatever that's worth) :P
I like how there actually having a conversation about this subject and not just making fun of them
I grew up in a very strict church and for the longest time I thought Christians should reject gays and shun them. Then one day I ended up with gay neighbors. The Bible told me to love my neighbor as myself. I realized it wasn't Christianity that was the paradox. It was my application of it. It doesn't mean I switch to accepting the lifestyle but it did mean that I stop assigning a rating system to all the sin around me and drop the self righteousness. Christian singer Rich Mullins told a story of hitchhiking and being picked up by a man who revealed he was gay. The man said, "Doesn't your God hate me for being gay?". Rich responded, "No more than he hates me for being a liar.". When you understand your sin is just as grievous as everyone else's sin you start to truly understand grace. Rhett was confronted by his flawed application of faith and instead of turning to the truth, he turned away from it and sought answers from the world.
This video just popped up in my feed. I love your comment! Jesus has blessed you with discernment and insight! May he continue to bless you!
"The church is very white and male and straight." Um, Christianity is the only major religion that is not and historically has not been geographically/culturally limited. Islam is still largely centered in the middle east (Indonesia is the one outlier), Hinduism is still centered in India, Buddhism is still centered in the far east. Christianity started in the middle east in Israel, then it was centered in modern day Turkey, then Rome and north Africa, then western Europe & England, then America, now it's shifting to Asia and Africa. Christianity is the ONLY geographically and culturally diverse world religion.
who cares
Islam doew seem to have a revival in europe at the moment thanks to merkel
Nate Higgers Thanks to infiltration through immigration, and above average breeding. Keep in mind if Christianity was still traditional none of this nonsense would have happened.
What about Judaism? Also Spain is a manor Islam hot spot. The architecture in Madrid is very “middle eastern”
Facts facts facts haha
Reminds me of this C.S. Lewis quote. “Faith, in the sense in which I am here using the word, is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted, in spite of your changing moods.”
this wasn’t a changing mood though. this was years and years of decisions and research
@@lilys_webb5018 that's doubtful. People that change religious beliefs because of their social pressures rarely do so because someone made a good argument for or against something. Heck, people rarely change beliefs because of argument at all. Instead they usually do it because of emotional conflict with their apparent beliefs and side with emotions.
Here's a question: did they put this much effort into their faith before they came to Christianity in the first place? What did they ask? Was it just an accepted and expected social norm? If so, why shouldn't I see their deconversion as the same thing?
Those of us who came even a little late to the faith and argued and did at least a little research beforehand are very rarely the kind of people that deconvert. Why? Because we're the kind of person who takes up a faith to internalize and make sense of the world we live in and our own qualia. The others? They just want to fit in with society. They just want people to like them. That's a terrible way to base your fundamental beliefs.
@@vedinthorn Put aside your doubt.
Martial Apologist assuming that about them or anyone is so dismissive. i’m a christian turned agnostic so i related to a lot of the things they were saying. it’s a struggle to have those doubts, especially in the south. you may do a lot of research to get into the faith, you may do a lot of research to get out. i know i did. and it’s not something that your environment determines. that would dismiss their faith as being fragile and moldeable, which is frankly offensive. each person is different. and to answer your question, yeah i’m sure they did put lots of thought into christianity. but being born into it, like being in the bible belt, is a weird thing. you’re not born a christian, but you are born into that lifestyle but you must be educated on it to become truly saved. people change their beliefs because of argument all the time, i know i did. it was just a long process.
@@lilys_webb5018 that's fine, but I'm pretty sure the scientific psychological consensus is that most people don't change their minds from argument. At least not exclusively. I wish I were wrong. I'd like to be. But they didn't actually present anything like evidence it reason to think their faith was wrong. At least not that would convince anyone with a better understanding than what people get in Sunday school.
If you want to leave any faith you should hit the best, and only the best, thinkers on both sides of the issue. I kind of doubt these guys were reading c.s. Lewis, Gary Habermas, Alvin Plantinga, and Peter Kreeft. They did seem swayed by the likes of common internet atheist tropes that can, admittedly, trear down bad strawmen if Christianity. I feel like they would give weight even to Jesus mythicism, which no credible historian thinks is anything but silly, but maybe they were a bit better than that.
LA isn't the reason he is asking these questions. "My environment is effecting me and making me this way" is the king statements made by weak men and no one else.
"You say you have to have faith and I agree but you never had it. You are a weak man and you went to where you could gain from that weakness." That is what I would say to that
exactly. Rhett explicitly stated that the argument of it only being an “la thing” really hurt him because it dismisses the idea that he could just question his beliefs. he’s struggled with his faith since NC.
Faith should make you a thermostat rather than a thermometer. A thermometer reflects an aspect of its environment. A thermostat controls that aspect of its environment. Muse on that.
@@mr.m.1409 I need to borrow that one!
@@hllymchll Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you. I mean how could I? I don't know who the hell you are and I wasn't talking to you or about you so how could I possibly know my words would offend you so much. It seems the only way you could have not been offended is not sticking your ass where you don't want to be. So it's not me offending you at all is it but you looking to be offended. Just because something is said a lot and is common doesn't mean its wrong or lazy. In fact the reason you are offended is it is right. It just means people like you don't like hearing the truth and I couldn't care less if your offended by it. That is the point for to get offended because it breaks the delusion places like LA give you that your weakness is ok which it is not. Its like your statement about saying 'you are not christian if you do X" You left that open because most thing you could put there would be right like "You are a bad christian if you don't take communion" for example. That statement is 100% correct and you can hate it all you like. I can only hope that if he read my post. He would have the same reaction you did because he is weak just like you. That is the real reason he can't like in North Carolina because they will tell the truth... JUST... LIKE....ME
@@valley5617 With my blessing, my friend.
For the people who feel like quickly commenting, I would HIGHLY recommend listening to their full stories. Especially Links. His was not represented well in this video. Him losing faith was not fully based on the lgbtq+ issue.
Agreed!
I also agree, the show focused on non central topics, as well as making too many bad taste jokes imo. However I also think that they made valid interesting points. And tbh I think if Rhett and Link really care about truth they should show up for a conversation.
Going to be honest. Its doesn't matter. I'm happy to hear it, but trust me. There's far more stories on this side.
Very underrated comment!!! 100% agree
Mister Z there is no truth when it comes to this topic. You believe what you believe in. Especially when it revolves religion which is pretty much just a man made theory, until we see god come from the sky or we have an after life in heaven or hell. frankly, I don’t believe in god necessarily because people are only pushed into religion from other people with no evidence of anything except a book and that it is the answer to life. Their all saying “if your in a dark time in your life god will shine through and brighten your life” or something like that but I’m pretty sure that’s just how life goes for absolutely everyone. It’s just normal.
The scariest thing he said was that he jumped out of the boat and brought his wife and kids with him.
Daniel Martinez when he said that I legitimately teared up. What a dark and sad statement. I thought of how Jesus walks on water and he decided to refute Him and drown :(
@@sydmoore6 as a man and not a perfect man, I can not fathom pulling my wife and kids down into something I was unsure of. To me the wife and husband are equal, I think God and the family members see the man as the leader of his household. It is very sad to hear someone say it, even more it makes me reflect on my actions as a father and pray God will help me where I have failed to give Him all glory!
You guys clearly have not watched the full podcast if you think this was a dark statement or in anyway bad. And you clearly have no idea who Link is if you think he'd do anything to potentially harm his family.
Eah I watched enough of GMM with my kids, and I have heard loud and clear what he said. All I can do is pray for all of them.
Daniel Martinez Yes because you took an analogy and took it as literally as possible. If you’d actually watch the podcast instead of forming ill-informed opinions you’d know that this was a decades long process for them. They don’t want your pity man. In the podcast (which you didn’t watch, again) they talk about how they knew people like you would react this way because this is exactly how they would have reacted when they were Christians
When you base your faith on feelings you’ve already lost. Be a Christian on purpose. Love on purpose. Feelings change often.
Very well put
Very well said.
There's also a distinction between feelings and experiences. I listened to their entire things and they never actually experienced God, they merely held an intellectual belief based on their emotions rather than a firm hollistic belief mind body and soul based on actually knowing God personally.
What should faith be based on?
@Ned Prendergast Cunningham what should Christian faith be based on? One can believe in God without being Christian, or being a part of any religion for that matter.
"I jumped out of the ship into the water and I took my wife and kids with me."
Truest and saddest words Rhett has said on the subject.
I was choking back tears in that moment
I somehow missed that when I watched his podcast. That is so sad. He tore away his kids chance at a relationship with God that they could choose.
@@blueicedragon2107 they still can be reached, God reaches out for us all. pray for them
@@gaseredtune5284 oh I know that. But it will be much harder.
@@blueicedragon2107 No he didn't. Kids who were religious growing up turn atheist all time time, and kids raised by atheist parents convert to religion all the time. People can and do change their minds often.
I truly believe their producer had a lot of influence over them. She has been with them for years.
I’d like to agree but I need more evidence
I wouldn’t be surprised.
They would be better off subtracting her from their entire equation in my opinion. Maybe she can get a gig as a monotone robotic voice for a please hold tele prompt service somewhere with any luck
Well, it’s true that the people you surround yourself with will impact you. I have many friends who are from the LGBT community. I love them just as much and no different from my other friends, but I’m careful to not subject myself to too much of it, either. Of course, I tend to do that with everyone, haha! It’s all about balance, right?
Their producer, the money, LA, RUclips etc.
Steven, my name is Hunter, I am 21 years old and I am from Murfreesboro, TN and I am a huge fan! But you asked us to share stories about losing/gaining/keeping faith. And I'll share my story with you. I started dating a sophomore in highschool going into junior year, when I was in the 8th grade going into freshman year. And she was an atheist while I was raised up Christian, then about my sophomore year, I lost my faith and went down a very dark path, I was never good at school, always hated it at that time. I started skipping school ALL the time to where I even got arrested for truancy, I became a drug addict, snorting and smoking pills, amphetamines, opiates anything I could get my hands on. Then the summer going into my senior year. I overdosed off opiates and ended up in the hospital, and I'm lucky I didnt lose my life, up until this point I was still an atheist, but I was sitting there in the hospital bed and I prayed and asked god to help me overcome my addiction and get better and if I could get over it that I would regain my faith in god. And I've been a clean Christian, ever since. I ended up going to trade school for the trade that I am currently in, welding. And in the fall I'll be going to college for Engineering. And I'm doing great. Thanks so much Steven, have a great day!
Hunter Culling I’m also in Murfreesboro! Great to hear your story!
YOU got yourself off of drugs that is ypur accomplishment, I feel like it takes something away from that when you say it was God.
@@johndeneau7667 What some of you atheists don't understand (I am assuming by your comment that your an atheist) some people need the help of belief in a higher power to get them off addiction. He's off of drugs, so what if he thanks a higher power? Maybe it was God.
Off topic what kind of welding do you like? (MiG, TIG, ect.)
@@RockLibertyWarrior it was his own strength, he saw a problem, and by sheer power of will he bettered himself. The sooner he realizes it was all him the sooner he can apply himself and accomplish anything.
If hugging a gay person was a crisis of faith for you then you're not worshiping the same God I am
Anthony Raines 😂sooooo Jesus is accepting of homosexuals?
I worship the God that drowned everyone
@@Stupiddumbpenis Who believes he isn't? aside from the Westboro crazies..
@@Stupiddumbpenis jesus loves homosexuals, he hates the sin of homosexuality.
Elrikard have you read what it says in the Bible about homosexuals?
Steven, you've inspired me to look into Christianity again with a more open mind. It's been almost 10 years that I've shut it out. Wish me luck!
Please look into The Bible Project or Dr. Michael Heiser. They teach you how to read the Bible through the eyes of the Ancient Israelite. They help you understand historical context. My mind has been blown ever since! 🛐❤🛐❤✝️
@@followersofyeshuahamashiac462 thank you for the suggestion!! I just started reading Genesis and I could definitely already use some context 😅
Hallie Maney that’s amazing! It’s okay to have questions! There’s so much to learn just be careful because there’s a lot of false information. King James Version is the most accurate to the word. I will pray for you! 💝
@@babybumblebee585 I've started reading the NIV version (not even sure what that stands for) but I know the King James version is a little wordy for me to be able to just sit and read it (and understand what I just read haha) I have thought about referencing it at times when a sentence doesn't make much sense just to see it written differently. I appreciate the prayers 👍
Hallie Maney that’s totally okay!
I am a Christian and I have been struggling a lot lately with the idea of love. This mass Monday was exactly what I needed. I recently was hurt very deeply by someone who said that he loved me. He told me he loved me then turned around and showed his true colors by betraying all of the things I had trusted him with. I have been struggling with how someone could be so sure of a feeling and then suddenly change that feeling. When Steven said that the church should see love as action not just as feeling it all clicked. I spent all my time loving him by action as I am called to do as a Christian, and yet he did not love me by his action, he loved me by his feeling. This was the realization that I needed desperately but was unable to find. Thank you Steven and team for having this program. I am always blown away by who God uses to give clarity to others. Never did I think that the person who would speak the words I needed to hear would be the guy who dressed up as heat miser to go confront someone in a coffee shop 😂😂😂
I’m sorry that happened to you. I’m so glad you’re on the mend! You’ll be on my heart and I’ll pray for you frequently. God bless you.
Abigail, unfortunately these lessons are part of life. True faith is strengthened when we experience these things and we are able to step back and objectively learn from them.
When it comes to matters of love, I find it a very slippery slope when we equate Human love and emotion with our faith. We run the risk of losing both.
I'm very glad to read that you gained strength and some insight from this podcast and the experience as a whole. Many do not make it through. At your age I'm sure you are aware of this. I think most would agree if they took the time that you are right on track with your life experiences and that experiences are exactly that. They are things we have experienced. They do not define us not do they define all of our experiences in the future. I'd like to ask that you take some time to see if you can't put the experience where it belongs and perhaps see if a different outlook towards your faith isn't a stronger lesson. One where gratitude in being blessed with the strength to persevere and grow is more the lesson. Take care and enjoy life and your faith equally. With all your heart.
My daughter's name is Abigail. I hope you are doing well these days. I think everything Steven and his crew said here are so spot on. You take good care of yourself. Keep the faith. Never surrender or give up your Christian principles. IMHO.
If it helps, remember that Christ came into body form and endured every kind of thing we would face. He personally knows what it feels like to have someone close betray you, so you know that He feels for you and the pain that brought you. And He lovingly uses what was evil to bring about good, so that pain does not go for nothing.
(Note: that is not the same as saying nothing bad will happen. But God creates good in spite of evil.)
Also, from personal experience, I will give you this cautionary advice:
It would be better for someone to come stab me to death - than to allow bitterness in my heart.
To die faithfully is to join our Lord having finished the race well. That's the worst someone else can do to me.
Bitterness on the other hand... Nothing in my life has risked my salvation more. Nothing more has pushed me toward rebellion and drove me toward sin despite having lived faithfully for a long time.
When you consider that, who did more harm to who? The person who hurt me? Or me to myself?
All they did was hurt me. I nearly drug myself down to hell.
Thank God for forgiveness. Thank God He is faithful even when I am not faithful. Thank God for the continued opportunity to repent which could have stopped.
Consider that God saved us from ourselves, and that other's harm does not compare to that rescue. May you find peace in and blessing in God.
Will Christianity Bible? - Rhett and Link
More like, will Bible Jesus?
If God why gay?
😂😂😂
Gabe Norman because we are literally all sinners. You are made in his image. Repent, carry on, and know that he died for you. Same for the rest of us.
This cracked me up. XD
I never lost my faith, but I went through a phase where my faith was on very shaky ground. During junior/senior year of high school, I was in a very bad relationship, and simultaneously my dad‘s struggle with alcoholism was beginning to hit its worst point yet. This combination put me in a very dark place, and I began to question a lot of things about my faith. But in the end I actually came out stronger than ever before, and since then I’ve just continued to grow.
@Isaiah Mumaw
هامبرغر ، برجر الجبن ، بيج ماك ، وابر ، هامبرغر ، رجل ، ماك ،!!!!!!!🚫🚫🚫❗️❗️
@@williambonac8157 um what?
Would god want blind faith? I thought he wouldn't. So I questioned everything and my faith in him
@Kylee Porter 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
ruclips.net/video/BQ5ax8im3Ow/видео.html
Yeah I’m on that shaky ground now as a Junior.
"I jumped into the ocean and I dragged my wife and kids with me."
Terrible decision when you don't have a shore to swim towards.
Jumped into an ocean of fire and taking his family with him. So sad.
Christians will try to throw him a "life saver". He will demand the anchor instead.
Honestly, that sentence from Rhett made me physically cringe because if he doesnt straighten out his life his wife and kids and grandkids salvation will be on his head as he acknowledges that he pulled them in.
lol you guys are soo dramatic let the man and his family make their personal choices like everyone else. just because your faith works for you doesnt mean everyone else is wrong about theirs. dont be so sure about everything. your rather on the level of a flat earther tbh calling everyone globetards or sum who dont believe in your shaky theory, its rather funny and sad all at the same time.
@@mmeeemmeeesseeeeeeeeeeeeee9206 The concept of "pulled my wife and kids with me" already destroys the live and let live mentality. Honestly, the better action would have been for him to jump ship, but let his wife and children choose for themselves.
i think they were speaking personally not trying to lead ppl away from jesus
This. It's really just people being insecure with their own faith when they think the testimony of one's loss of faith has to reflect on theirs.
@@tofubaba1315 yes, but unfortunately this can still have that effect, whether intended or not
@@MechaKnuckles Good. If you believe in something not worth believing in, and your will to follow it is fragile precisely because of this (assuming you subscribe to the logic that having a doubt doesn't just appear out of nowhere and that it is worth paying attention to in the first place - which it IS), and watching a fucking Earbiscuits video is enough to cut the fucking cord... well, then, good FUCKING riddance.
@EmtronVenger I personally believe that you shouldn't, because Rhett and Link are allowed to be the people that they are, and if people are going to be in a hissy fit about it, they should be in a hissy fit about everyone who shares the same position. Oh wait, Christians do tend to be in a hissy fit about a lot, don't they? It's not as if the whole function of their religion depends on getting up in other people's business about their "soul" or whatev... uh, oops.
@Nathanael Inman If you're watching Rhett and Link in the first place for a Bible lesson, you were in the wrong place to begin with. Grow up, people are people. That said, if you think that people shouldn't have the ability to express their current state of belief (whatever it is), or doubts, or whatever, you are a tyrannical kind of thinker. Rhett and Link have every right to express as much as they want about their current lack of faith as you have the right to express your faith. Stop holding people to different standards just because they don't believe the same shit that you do. People at any age should be allowed to think about the world that they're in, and you want to forcibly prevent that from happening. You're the scary one.
5:07
Rhett: "This is when I adopted what I like to call California Christianity"
Gerold: "Oh Boy"
This is why you are never to put a modifier to Christianity.
Right? Not holy bible +. Besides paul made it survive in Rome, nothing has really changed
Joshua Fogg similar time Justice and Social Justice
@@stephengalindo6340 Indeed.
Isn't the church of xatan in California
28:24 He's just displaying his absolute ignorance here. The Huaorani tribe in Ecuador not only practiced cannibalism with no remorse, but their language didn't even have a word for forgiveness.
It's infuriating listening to ignorant people speak lies as if they are truth. This is straight from the father of lies.
@@WufflesGhosts If you mean killing, then yes that's correct. Murder is always immoral. It's the definition of the word. There's justifiable homicide, not justifiable murder.
This breaks my heart. These guys were such a big part of my childhood. Their faith kept their comedy clean. The fact that they were so poorly instructed in the faith that they felt this way is so sad.
Yeah, I feel like there's a lot more dirty jokes and outright swearing in their show these days compared to the past.
I wouldn't say entirely clean lmao... But on a serious note, I'm in the same boat and I am very upset/disappointed
Were Rhett and Link Christian? If so what were there reasons for leaving their faith?
No............. It was clean because they started more so for kids but as their kids grew up so did their audience. GMMs audience is primarily teens and 20+ year olds and their kids are teens now too. Thus they started getting more mature with topics............
@@Pascua_bunch Their best friend dying (who is now dead rip) who didn't believe in Christianity and both of them caring more about "saving" his soul rather than caring for him as a living being. That was the main catalyst for them leaving.
"You need to understand and be able to articulate your beliefs or you have no business espousing them." - Steven Crowder
Love this so much! God WANTS us to understand his commandments and his conversations with mankind. Not to follow him blindly.
I became a Christian through a philosophical pathway. I was an atheist. I read some philosophical writings from Christian authors, especially on ethics, that attracted me to the teachings of Jesus. Now, I’ve been a Christian for 21 years. I’ve had my highs and my lows. But I’m a better, stronger, more virtuous man because of my faith in Jesus Christ, the Lord.
And may you continue to see the positive and be virtuous. 😊 Thank you for your comment, a simple testimony instead of a put-down or the like.
Hope you stay healthy and happy. 👍💛
I presume you're familiar with C.S.Lewis. That dude's the best. There's this cool RUclips channel called C.S.Lewis doodle that illustrates a lot of his work really well. I would highly recommend it.
Nelson Camacho Tirado thanks for sharing! :)
What did you read? I need to strengthen my faith.
@@ApexBizzySolutions Here's an awesome message to get you started: ruclips.net/video/hhG_SY-LhPE/видео.html 😊
And if anyone's interested, there's more to just listen to (don't have to watch) here: ruclips.net/user/LDSGeneralConference
Christianity is being like God,and loving people like are own brothers/and sisters. Never be ashamed of being a Christian and your walk with Jesus! God bless
ɮօʊռсє օռ ժᎥռցʊร oh so she is still in a cult either way I see
@@user-vg2wp1jb7p Christianity isnt a cult?
@@user-vg2wp1jb7p religion is different to a cult
@@codynelson7575 only difference between religion and a cult is the amount of people involved
@@vearnski I disagree but I don't want to continue this argument, not because I lost but because I don't want to keep fighting
I'm not sure if Rhett meant to make that sound so ominous, but there's no other way to really interpret the way he said "I jumped into the water and I pulled my wife and child into the water with me." like dude, you're making a metaphor about drowning...not being free.
There was almost something Fruedian about it, wasn't there?
Jesus sets you FREE.
Former atheist here.
Also worth noting, the ocean is mostly "empty". Rhett jumped into emptiness and hopes to find answers there. Sorry Rhett, that is not how things work.
The way I interpreted that quote from Rhett saying that he separated himself from the faith and jumped off the boat and into the water, I think that he means he pushed himself away from Christ and found himself in a place of uncertainty and a feeling of being lost, like being lost in the sea. As of him saying that he brought his wife and kids with him, I think that he thought that was the best decision for them, and as every father would want the best for their family, he brought them along.
It was a joke cause he knew all you nerds were gonna see it that way
Christian here. I recommend the book by Dr Frank Turek called “I don’t have enough faith to be an Atheist” It is amazing. It argues Theism first, then goes to explain why Christianity has the most supportive evidence of the theisms. I think a lot of people are agnostic more than atheist, they just don’t know the difference. Intellectually I think it’s more logical to be agnostic than atheist.
Yeah, a persons belief may be wrong but Gods word is clear...
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death."
- Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT
I would second this recommendation. It's absolutely fantastically written, best apologetics book I've read.
I am very well aware of the difference and I am atheist. Are you "agnostic" to Oden, Ra, tooth fairy, Santa clause, Abdominal snow man, gnomes? You can not 100% prove or disprove the existence of Zeus, but the question is do you believe in Zeus?
So you couldn't hug a sinner? We're all sinners. I hug my wife and kids daily and they're sinners and they hug me who and I am also a sinner. They couldn't be honest and just say it's much easier not to be Christian in L.A.
Is smoking gods sweet plant a sin?
He said it was the first time he had ever done it. Not that he couldn't.
I am a Christian but watch the whole interview with Rhett and link just just the clips
@The Clownening you should calm down and hit the blunt,
@The Clownening dude comon you can't say that marijuana doesn't have positives and its way better than any other drug also stoners arnt the worst people you can meet take a joke jeez
Crowder: If we were to count on them to make it rain...
Me: We’d be in a drought?
Crowder: ...There wouldn’t be any rain.
Me: ...fair enough
Me: this place would become a desert
😂😂
9:45 (ish) I'm a conservative evangelical Christian, I'm a minister at my church, lead a youth group and everything in between. My best friend is a gay drag queen. Every day I tell him I love him and I hug him whenever I see him. He knows what my convictions are and we've had those conversations, but he's my brother. Never has my faith come in the way of that. On the contrary.
David Amen!
David I greatly respect people like you and wish this was the prevailing attitude
God bless you David! It's not our place to judge them in the first place. We're expected to love our neighbors, not judge and persecute !
I totally understand having someone like that as a friend, whom you can constantly witness to with your love for them showing the love of God to them. That's an excellent way to live out your faith!
But I'm very confused that your *best* friend would be someone who can't truly hold you up in your faith and point you towards God. Do you have no Christian brothers whom you can relate to better? Nobody who can pray with you, build you up with Godly encouragement, and run the race with you?
Paul says:
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?
2 Corinthians 6:14 ESV
By you saying an unbeliever is the one you're yoked the closest with, that shows your walk is seriously imbalanced! Why can't you find brothers in the faith to be your cord of 3 which isn't easily broken, so you have a stable walk that will assist you in guiding a lost friend? If you're yoked to 1 other, and they don't walk the same way as you, you're in some trouble. If you're yoked to 2 brothers in the faith you won't be strayed as easily by a weaker connection to a lost soul wandering in a different direction. Your brothers will even be able to help you stay on track while you try to pull that friend towards your path.
I hope you find these words encouraging, brother. Run the race to obtain the victory! The grace of the Lord Jesus be with you.
@MrBlueD3V1L do you have a biblical basis for him "finding his brother"? Do you even claim to be a Christian?
when i was young i had not really yet developed in my beliefs and towards the end of middle school, I met a man on xbox live. I wasn't very smart at the time, but i was definitely smart enough to understand how smart this guy was. for weeks and weeks i listened to this guy all the time joining his party, and listening to him just spout endless information on so many subjects and he was very atheist and i had avoided talking about that because he was adamant about converting Christians to atheists. When he eventually asked me directly i told him I was because i knew i shouldn't deny God, so at this point nothing else existed it took about 10 hours of talking over 2 or 3 days and he poked holes in what i said and the answers i gave him and he asked me why i was a christian and i didn't know. I told him something about heaven and he told me that i wasn't a christian, i was just afraid of death. I believed him, he understood me more than i understood myself and i fell away from God. While im not proud of that failure, but I think it did more to lead me to self discovery, and rediscovery of God and Faith than it did the opposite. i really appreciate this video.
This was wonderful to read. God uses the bad for good, and he most definitely used that man to bring you closer to him.
Many Christians that I have met have this issue of "Why do bad things happen to me?" Instead of "What can I learn from this bad thing?" or "what was the intention of this bad thing?" or "Was this bad thing even a bad thing or do I see it as bad caused by my own selfishness?" And I'm glad you saw the good in that situation. May you continue to grow in the faith.
Well said🙏🏻
Something that really renewed my faith as a young Christian was really getting into the Bible more. Alot of things in reality started to make sense to me after reading more and more of the living word.
Sounds like you are just too fucking dumb to understand what that guy was telling you.
I had people try to talk me out of faith too, GW, it made me go look for the answers. I went toward Jesus, not away, and He gave me those answers that made my faith even stronger and give those answers in confidence. Jesus said if we seek we’ll find Him and study under the Holy Spirit to be ready to give those answers.
I’m a Christian, and for the longest time, I thought atheism had reason and logic and that being a Christ-follower involved blind faith. Then I took an apologetics class and learned from guys like Timothy Keller and Ravi Zacharias, and I learned that there is a lot of reason that goes into understanding and believing that God is real and that believing in Him and following Him makes the most logical sense. Everyone has a belief system, everyone has to make some leaps of faith, and we all use reason and logic to understand the realities in front of us. I believe Christianity makes the most sense of the realities in front of us.
Except no logic goes into your belief and it is definitely in blind faith.
You know what the difference between a cult and a religion is... the leader is dead.
@@TheMellonMan Um no, there IS no difference. A Cult and a Religion are the same thing buddy.
Justin Little It was a joke, I already knew that.
I believe cause and effect is the only tool we genuinely have to study our universe. If you apply that logic to the known history of the universe, you realize that at some point there was a cause without a cause. Whether we exist in a universe inside a universe where things happen spontaneously, or there is an everlasting being that can do things spontaneously, any conclusion after the fact are faith based.
This is so weird, I would never have guessed that I would see crowder and Rhett/link in the same video.
I felt the same way with them as I did with Daithi De Nogla lol
@@guybayliss319 explain for my small brain
@@tombennett6390 It was weird to see Rhett and Link in a video but he did a video a few days ago that he was playing Call of Duty Warzone and had the RUclipsr "Daithi De Nogla" in it so I thought it was weirder to see Nogla than Rhett and Link in Steven's videos.
"When I jumped ship I didn't jump into another ship, I jumped into the ocean and I took my wife and my children with me" Gotta hand it to him. That's a pretty good analogy for atheism
Yep, as long as you have a shore to swim to anyone can reach it, on a boat or not.
@@shybandit521 until the shark nabs your ass
@Danny Boy Jango Deep
@@shybandit521 A boat would still do a better job it
Yeah a painful and eminent death from jumping in the water
"The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you" - Werner Heisenberg
Maybe if you're an indoctrinated dumbass
YO Mr White, we need to cook or else Gus will kill us!
@@ViciousTuna2012 sigh
This is actually quiet beautiful, it kinda says that once you reach the bottom and are out of options, god sounds good to you
Gerald is the most interesting and articulate when he talks about his faith.
Right!? I was just thinking that. So THAT's why they keep him around :) I found his incite very interesting. We need more of that from him.
I get possible pastoral vibes from him
I think he went to Norte Dame
@Gromph Baenre I want citations. Make sure you include the part about how slaves must be legally released after seven years. Oh yeah...also the part about how Old Testament law was abolished with the first coming of Christ.
Gromph Baenre full and proper context is important. You can’t take your concept of American Slavery in the South and tack it on to Biblical “slavery.” Culture, treatment, mindsets and Levitical law all paint a different picture than the one you are seeing.
Regardless, you’re seemingly inferring that if there is something that you disagree with then all of the Bible must be dismissed. Is that a logical determination? Or is it a presupposition that already determined your conclusions?
I appreciate that you guys are willing to take a perspective where you’re likely to catch crap from multiple angles. Kudos
R&L: “Let’s go to the most hipster, flannel-shirt-pastor church in LA.”
Also R&L: “cHriStIaNs aRe onLy wHiTe.”
Lol they've never been to a southern baptist church in the South. Or ever been to south korea
Me a Somoan sitting here like... Bruh
Most christians are actually non-white but whatever
Catholic Church in Texas hosted Nigerian, Hispanic, and Vietnamese priests, among others. I guess Hispanic and Vietnamese is a SHADE of white??? 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah... by the numbers, ethnically European Christians are the minority in the world.
Rhett literally said he was digging for truth way before he left NC I don’t think they actually watched the whole thing from Rhetts side he just said it was easier to let go when he moved away from NC
Crowder is just butt hurt so now hes attacking them cherry picking
@@yungjod8906 - Crowder said something that made me think he hasn't watched the entire show yet, something he really should have done prior
Crowder cannot, nor will he not, nor can he afford to understand the deconversion process. I grew up in a very strict Mormon household in Utah. I went to college at a LDS church-owned university, BYU-Idaho. And it was in that setting where over the span of about five years I went through a long and hard process of thinking and researching and being introduced to various arguments and their rebuttals where I eventually became unconvinced of the church's truth claims.
Rhett's story, for me was VERY relatable. The feelings he described were ones that I also had felt. So often he hit the nail on the head. And I would not be surprised if P.R./Damage Control Apologists like Crowder felt threatened by the compelling force of Rhett's story... and that's why he could either not watch the whole thing, or just not take all the facts into consideration in his criticisms. He can't _afford_ to understand.
True, Crowder grew up Catholic. But he's the kind of person to rebel against what he's being taught which would likely prevent him from actually looking into why he believes what he believes. He would just say, "Okay sure" and go and do his own thing. Whereas Rhett was pretty much the opposite. He _actually did_ adhere to what he was indoctrinated into and went _deep_ into theological issues early on. Rhett was _hyped_ about his beliefs. The gave him meaning and energy! It was applied as an _actual worldview!_ Steven did not see the world in the same way. But even though Steven rebelled, whatever indoctrination he did receive still maintained a foothold in his mind.
Usually when people feel like some organization, system or institution isn't working out for them, they tend to question its necessity in their life. When it comes to religion and government, you often can't question its necessity without questioning its veracity. So my guess is that Steven saw what was wrong with Canada, its culture, politics and economics and though various factors and life events became convinced that conservatism was the best outlook and application for a society. And in the U.S., conservatism is closely associated with religiosity and they share some similar values, so he's reincorporated himself generally back into what he was once indoctrinated into.
With Rhett, the organization he was in _was_ working for him! Him and Link gained many beneficial opportunities from being in Campus Crusaders at their college and they excelled in that environment. But it was Rhett's diving into deeper theological, scientific and philosophical issues that caused him to question various ideas. He wanted to learn how his worldview was right. I don't doubt that his experience in L.A. opened him up to a very different perspective on Christianity and may well have been part of what caused him to question if Christianity was true at all. But that's what exposure to other worldviews does to people who have been dogmatic their whole lives.
In North Carolina, Rhett came out of fundamentalism and loosened up his dogmatism. In California, I can only assume that he saw dogmatism in people from different worldviews and realized that the world doesn't revolve around his worldview, but other people believe the world _does_ revolve around theirs.
Rhett cared about truth because that's what he was taught to care about. Steven cared about what he wanted out of life and whatever gave it to him is what he's sided with. He leans on Christianity to account for moral facts in the world, and then proceeds to live his life how he likes. He smokes and swears but that's okay because salvation doesn't depend on how closely you follow the standards of the gospel. It just depends on whether you're a believer or not.
I haven’t watched the podcast so forgive me if I’m wrong. Did they not reference this @ 19:00?
@@ThomasJDavis Just because you smoke or say a bad word on a rare occasion doesnt mean youre going to hell, so im confused on "He smokes and swears but that's okay because salvation doesn't depend on how closely you follow the standards of the gospel. It just depends on whether you're a believer or not." Last I checked, not everyone who smoked went to hell. However, its also not if youre a believer or not. Just because you believe in God doesnt mean youre granted the heaven stairs. You have to accept his rule, understand youre sinful, and restrict yourself of sin as much as possible. And ask for forgiveness if you do. Its not as simple as "Well, Gods real, so im going to heaven." Following the gospel as much as possible is good, but God allowed us to have more freedom in what we can do compared to the Old Testament.
“Ever heard of a black church,” 1/4 black garret
This is the comment I showed up for
As a Christian, conservative, cowboy hat and boot wearin, native Southern Californian. I whole heartedly endorse this message.
I just want to say THANK YOU to steven for talking about everything but the coronavirus. So tired of hearing it constantly with ben
It's all about a relationship with God, it deepens it never stays the same, it's important to love one another, this is what I learned from God. Be Love.
"Love the sinner, hate the sin", is viewed flippantly as a clever turn of phrase, but when distilled down to its core meaning should be the #1 guiding tenet of every Christian. You can tell, because it is likely one of the most difficult to implement in your life.
Amen
That is what God the Father does to us, because of Jesus
I don't hate the sinner I hate the sin
but being gay isn’t wrong and the bible suggests it is, even though, as crowder clarified, it doesn’t say to treat gay people badly, it still implies that being gay is a sin. Which is unreasonable.
@@kevincastellanos7607 Well to play devil's advocate. What makes being gay wrong? And of it's not why not?
I noticed that Steven and the rest of the crew had a higher level of respect on this rebuttal video. Now, i'm not saying they're not respectful in others, what i'm saying is I give them props for taking into account that Rhett and Link were talking about personal journeys.
"God, the original top ten creator!" - QuarterBlack Garrett. LOL
Which God? There's been thousands.
@@chadleach6009 There's only on God, one prime creator. Name five more, if you think there has been thousands.
@@rubynibs ok,
neith, ra, yemoja, Zeus, Odin, rama. I could go on but you get the point.
... *And on 8th day, the lord created Watch Mojo...* And it was good.
Chad Leach God you know the man himself?
Thank you, Steven, for speaking the truth in love. Faith and reason are both important tools to have in your walk with God.
This reminds me of something a general authority in my church said:
"Sadly enough, my young friends, it is a characteristic of our age that if people want any gods at all, they want them to be gods who do not demand much, comfortable gods and smooth gods who not only don’t rock the boat but don’t even row it, gods who pat us on the head, make us giggle, then tell us to run along and pick marigolds. Talk about man creating God in his own image! Sometimes - and this seems the greatest irony of all - these folks invoke the name of Jesus as one who was this kind of ‘comfortable’ God. Really?"
-Elder Jeffrey R. Holland
Elder Holland is amazing
Hey, a fellow member of Christ's church! There's a surprising amount of mormons here. Holland's the best. C.S.Lewis in "the problem of pain" also covered this topic well.
@@KnuttyEntertainment there are a bunch of LDS people here which is interesting since Crowder is pretty naughty from time to time. But he's one smart dude.
Crowder is a good Christian fighting the fight and I as a member of Christ’s church like to share his good content. Also great Elder Holland quote!
I loved Elder Holland's talk on that subject.
The discussion of faith reminds me of the story about a guy in the flood. A man is in his house when a flood warning hits, he steps out of his house and sees men getting into a pickup truck. The driver says," there's room man come on", but the man say, "No god will save me". the water has driven the man the second story of his house when a boat comes up. The driver of the boat says," come on man we have room," and again the man says, "No God will save me". The water has driven the man to the roof of his house when a helicopter comes over and the pilot says, "get in man we have room," and the man replies yet again," no God will save me". The man dies, and when he's at the foot of the throne he asks, "God why did you not save me", and God responds, "What do you mean? I sent you a truck a boat and a helicopter".
I love that joke.
thats a story lmao
Exactly right. Great joke. Here's another similar one. A guy is working on the roof of a large building when he slips and starts sliding toward the precipice. He quickly prays, "God, I haven't prayed in a long time, but if you will save me, I swear I will change my life and do everything I'm supposed to do." At that point, he gets caught on a nail and stops sliding, so he adds, "nevermind God, I got it..."
@@ericbess5917 I like that one. Thanks
Commas-- "No God will save me" means exactly the opposite as "No, God will save me"
I'm not very religious, but this was an interesting discussion.
Thanks for sticking with it. Hope you got something from it regardless.
Not That Guy I agree. I’m not religious either but I’m not anti religious. My lady is a Christian and Steven has stated many good points about his faith. I look at is a personal journey and who am I to say what another should believe. I’ll also state I’m a Mug Club member because I support Stevens integrity and political opinions.
@@Metolius9 Well said.
@heehee mefunny same. i think its great for people to see things from both sides, and to practice being being open minded. gives me hope we can figure things out through words in the future. rather than digging a trench and sticking with a single opinion so strongly. who can be so sure about anything, right? everyone needs to be open to changing their perspective on things in life. its just being able to go with the flow ig 👍
@heehee mefunny Yeah, I think that's do in part that their beliefs are not rooted in their religion. They may attribute some of them to their religion but it's most likely due to them actually using their brains.
I can really appreciate the statement that it's ok that people have almost this childlike faith that nothing can tear them from and that some people have many moments of doubt. I'm the former and I have a lot of close relatives and friends that are the latter. Sometimes people think it's ridiculous to not question it but I've had some really tough times, and the only way I got through them was prayer and God's grace. I've been homeless and being that I pray and talk to God a lot, it obviously came up that I needed guidance and help. The miracle that came my way was incredible, we found a place at the very last minute in a completely unforeseeable event. Another of my aunt's became homeless at the same time and we moved in together. My mom had a precancerous tumor in her lower intestine that went unchecked for well over six years because no one would listen to her complaints of stomach pain and by the grace of God they caught it before it completely obstructed her bowel by mere days and the doctor said it was miraculous that it never crossed the precancerous threshold after all this time, all because of a technicality that forced her to switch doctors
I grew up in a christian home and 'left' the faith while I was living as a missionary. But It's science and logic and cosmology that brought me back to the Creator!
Proverbs 2
1My son, if you accept my words
and store up my commands within you,
2listening closely to wisdom
and directing your heart to understanding;
3furthermore, if you call out to insight
and lift your voice to understanding,
4if you seek it like silver
and search for it like hidden treasure,
5then you will understand the fear of the Lord
and discover the knowledge of God.
6For the Lord gives wisdom;
from His mouth come knowledge and understanding.
science and logic do not go hand and hand with christians
Derek May what is that even supposed to mean
Derek May That’s absolutely false. The reason people think this is, Christians believe life was created by God. The majority of those involved in the science field, don’t believe life was created by God. In order to do science, they have to exclude God from all of their experiments since he doesn’t exist. Despite the majority of the world believing in a creator of some kind, go figure. I love science, I think it’s an amazing process but I also see that the field doesn’t allow God to be a consideration at all and that’s not science. You have to include all possibilities. They’re having to make theories up because they can’t accept God created anything. This is why Christians have a reputation for being “anti-science”. We’re not.
@@peppersadventure what sad thinking.
@@peppersadventure what about Georges Lemaitre, the astronomer, mathematician, Professor of Physics and Catholic priest, who came up with the modern 'big bang' theory?
“I jumped into the ocean and brought my wife and kids along with me”
This makes me really sad for their souls. They seem very misguided and lost. Mark 8:36 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?
lindsnandez
“Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. "Get out of here, baldy!" they said. "Get out of here, baldy!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.” 2 Kings 2:23-25
Nitro Mouthpiece bible verses can be messed up. Elisha and god didn’t seem to care about the souls of those 42 kids. Maybe the god in your bible isn’t so good? Seems strange to judge other people using a book that has verses like that.
Perhaps believing in souls or pretty much anything else there is no evidence for is what is misguided and lost? This makes me really sad for people who blindly believe what they are told. Me 10:39 For why would a person be so easily deceived and be willing to give a bunch of their money to known child molesters over the course of their life?
Justin Mason wrong
Tony Greif souls exist
One of the first places where Rhett missed the mark is that he seems to be misusing the word "faith." I don't blame him for that, it's often defined wrong. Where he is at fault is never digging further. He realized that "California Christianity" as he called it was flawed, but then he walked away and didn't research further on what IS and what isn't Christianity.
If they lost their faith was any faith there to begin with?
LA is a weird place. Agreed, a lot of California churches are screwed and flawed (hell, there is one a couple blocks away from my church that hosts a drag queen story hour occasionally and advocates for BLM), but there are (thankfully) plenty of churches here that don't cave to political pandering or culture shifts.
They grew up going to a southern baptist church. I’m not the least bit surprised they drifted away with the teachings coming out of that church.
@@jasmine_sugar yes, and it's not that simple.
Very well said Chaci.... Weak faith where you don’t understand what you believe won’t hold up against living around people that hate what you believe.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate this video and the conversation. I’ve been a follower for a long time. I’ve watched this before but ran across it again and decided to comment. With the times personally I’ve been going through it resonates a million.I wish y’all did more discussions on this. Hope you see this.
I am someone who grew up without faith. I recently became politically enlightened and my husband and I decided to now join the Christian faith, thanks to you and others that have transformed my life for the better. So thank you, for the work you do for our country and the dedication you have to helping people understand the lies they’ve been fed.
As a fellow Christian I'm very happy for you. Contrary to popular belief, this is not an easy life to live and if you follow Christ, you will be despised as he was. (Matt 10:22, John 15:18) Always remember that we have a hope for tomorrow and don't worry. I'll leave you with two of my favorite passages. The first helps us push on when we stumble, Romans 7, the whole chapter. The second reminds us not to worry, that we are special to God and He will take care of us, Matthew 6:19-34.
I hope I didn't annoy you by preaching to you over the internet,
Keep fighting the good fight, sister.
Marcalo De Unnero It’s like they said god gave you the option to sin, and if you do the problem isn’t with the people it’s with god. I think being homosexual is okay you can do whatever you want but the problem isn’t with me it’s with him. It’s your life I can’t judge you for doing what you want.
Never stop learning. Research everything for yourself, and don't believe anything anyone else tells you unless you see it for yourself and trust what God the Creator, tells you. 🤗🤗🤗 WWG1WGA
This is encouraging to see that someone like Steven Crowder being used by God to bring people into the faith with unorthodox methods (sarcasm and humor). I'm glad Steven has the testicular fortitude to say what most of us Christians would love to say!
It boggles my mind that anyone would voluntarily live in California let alone LA.
California has tons of beauty and great towns, I live outside Yosemite but plan to move to San Diego. Yes the political situation isn't the best but the negative stigma it gets is far too over hyped.
LA is great if you can afford it and minus the political situation ofc
@@galacticrelic258 Yeah I agree I visited California many times and it's a gorgeous state, in regards to climate, natural beauty, amusement, etc. The politics are horrible, tho, and ruins the state for some people.
Moved back since husband got a job offer. I used to live in Las Vegas and I miss it every day. though it certainly isn't "Vegas" right now.
California certainly isn’t all bad, just mainly the bigger cities. I live out further east in the deserts and it’s great in terms of weather. If you avoid the bigger cities it’s not a bad place to live in.
Steven, after my whole life having a confusing relationship with God and not really understanding anything I was baptized in May 2019 when I accepted Christ after He called me to a personal relationship with Him and after I sought Him for a year. So blessed for God and all He has done for me. I love this series - would be great to get some of these talks on regular RUclips. Can't wait to be able to support you more financially when my husband and I reach a better financial standing.
Praise God! Thanks for sharing your brief testimony!
Welcome to the family!
+Megan Wells Was this relationship a one way street? I keep seeing people have a relationship with this guy called God, yet no BBQ photos, nobff necklaces, and birthday cards. What gives?
Crowder and pals cherry picked clips from the original podcasts and didn’t even address Rhett and Link’s main argument (especially link’s). Terrible discussion and this is coming from a Christian.
Yeah this guy just wants to go after them.
Brandon Williams yeah they didn’t even speak about Rhetts whole point about the science behind dna and evolution.
Well he was only talking about the parts that he was involved in.
That would be an incredibly long video if he analyzed every single persons argument in those podcasts. He may have just decided to go to one perspective for the sake of time for himself and for the viewer. If he didnt even completely do Rhetts, itd probably be a 5+ hour video.
They turned Hollywood and all the gross beliefs that come with it.
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil.”
Proverbs 3:5-7 ESV
“Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. "Get out of here, baldy!" they said. "Get out of here, baldy!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.” 2 Kings 2:23-25
Though this judgement may at first seem harsh, the group must have included over 50 boys old enough to be out running in a pack and so they constituted something of a physical threat to Elisha. The author of Kings regularly show that contempt toward divinely called prophets is disastrous for God’s people. This translation and others use the term “ small boys, children or young boys”. The Original Hebrew text, refers to young men. This was not a small group of children making fun of a bald man. Rather, it was a large demonstration of young men who assembled for the purpose of mocking a prophet of God. The penalty was clearly justified, for to ridicule Elijah was to ridicule the Lord himself. The seriousness of the crime was indicated by the seriousness of the punishment. The appalling judgment was God’s warning to all who would scorn the prophets of the Lord.
Kira McCarty well if that’s what really happened, why didn’t the Bible just say that? It didn’t, it says exactly what I put up there.
It did say it in it’s original language. It’s not a mystery, it just takes a little digging is all. I could copy and paste the original Hebrew text and then it will say what I just explained?
The Bible is a book that is not merely for reading. It is a book for studying so that it can be applied. Otherwise, it is like swallowing food without chewing and then spitting it back out again-no nutritional value is gained by it. Those who say the Bible has errors have their ears closed to the truth.
@@kiram.3256 What I want to know is how to apply bears for self defense in my life.
As a mythical beast and Steven Crowder watcher I never thought these two worlds would be in one video hahaha
Same here. Will probably look at Rhett and Link differently from now on. (I'll still watch them)
Me too lol. It's so funny because both sides sound crazy IMO. But I enjoy both shows bc at the end of the day they all seem like pretty good people.
I’ve always just watched them for entertainment, so it kinda disappoints me that their more serious stuff is so misguided, but their usual stuff is still pretty entertaining.
They need to have a live discussion!
Agreed
I was an atheist as long as I had the ability to be “aware”. All the way up to the age of 25. There were many moments that lead me to seeking a spiritual journey, so I hitch-hiked across the country, intentionally leaning towards the Bible Belt. I went from LA, to North Carolina, back to San Francisco. By the time I got to Georgia, so many people and families that I came in contact with prayed over me, and many more along the way said “God bless you.” I finally returned the saying “God bless you, too.” to a lady that offered me a ride when I had another person coming to get me, so I declined. A miraculous series of events lead me to be gobsmacked on my knees and crying when the Lord slapped me across the face and asked, “Do you see it, yet?” After the 2016 Election, fighting my programmed brainwashing and massive depression, I started seeking the truth. Jesus rejuvenated and energized me and made it fully apparent that Jesus is the one true way and Lord. Nobody can ever convince me otherwise, and I’ve been saved for nearly 5 years now. Best thing to ever happen to me.
El Ricardo awesome testimony.
El Ricardo praise the Lord!! I grew up in the church. I almost envied people that didn’t grow up in the church because they had these amazing, beautiful, and miraculous “found God” moments. For me, “finding God,” when I always knew He was there, was incredibly hard. Fear has been the driving force behind all the decisions I made in life. Yet, I was always taught “fear is not of God.” I knew that something wasn’t right. My pastor talked about Revelations all the time and always drilled into my head we can die at any moment, so do we know where we’re going? I was so afraid of being left behind or going to hell that over the course of 10 years I went forward, several times, during alter calls, to be “saved.” I thought I was ready each time. That this time, it was real, but it never felt real, despite my best efforts. Something just wasn’t right deep within my soul and I didn’t know what it was. Until one day, when I was 26 years old, doing devotions. I was trying to find answers. At this point I was ready to give up, firmly believing that my name was never going to be, was not meant to be, in the Book of Life, no matter what I did. Then I read Romans 3:24 “Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.” There was a footnote in my study Bible that said “we are prisoners, and the ransom to set us free was Jesus’ blood on the cross. Jesus set us free.” (Paraphrase since I don’t have my Bible at this moment to look it up the exact verbiage.) Reading that footnote hit me in ways I cannot describe. For the first time in my 26 years of attending church and hearing the same stories from many different pastors and I never understood the significance of Jesus’ death on the cross until I read that footnote. I immediately burst into tears. I was sobbing into my Bible and asked the Lord to come into my heart and, this time, I knew it was real. A feeling of joy swept over me like a warm breeze on a cold day and my tears of anguish turned into tears of joy and I couldn’t stop laughing the whole rest of the day. It was the most beautiful and happiest moment I’ve ever experienced in life. I will be saved for 5 years this November.
Amazing testimony and eye opening as well, maybe I shouldn't be so harsh when discussing things with people who're being programmed as well.
Princess Consuela Banana Hammock that’s a fantastic story. 😀 Two sides of a coin, coming to the same wonderful grace of God.
Benjamin Barr I try to remember my roots and do the same. Those who are adamant in their hatred of Christianity / all religions are hard to speak to about it. I’ve found all you can do is lead by example, and plant little seeds until they feel like searching and the seed sprouts and blossoms.
I wish Crowder would do a video on why he believes.
In my opinion, I would rather die believing in something rather than nothing at all.
@@toggaf1465yes, it gives more closure first off, it gives hope as to what will happen after life, and eventually after being Christian you tend to create a special relationship with god. A huge bond and that's why I dont know if rhett and link were real Christians. I dont think that if they were taught right or been the average christian, they would have quit believing
@@shaneandrews7177 The thing is though you can't make yourself believe or say "I believe, therefore I'm a believer". One must be convinced. If the scripture or theologian fails to convince someone to believe, then there isn't much one can do.
@@shaneandrews7177 24:20 perfectly describes christianity as well as scientific beliefs I mean look at the New Testament compared to the Old Testament. Things change with the times, which can be good or bad. Just to use your own comment as a rebuttal, if I have faith in the superior beings from a planet that no one can prove exists let’s just call it Z10278, sculpted earth and gave us all our beliefs and personalities and if we throw a minimum of $25,000.00 into a mass bond fire, and dedicate a minimum of 25% of your life to hearing a overpaid preacher that uses their tax exemption card for the church for personal purposes talk about the Z10278 scriptures and that’s the only way to an after life would you change faith? No? Well why not? Because it’s a hypothetical, because “god has talked with you personally” maybe “it sound way to outlandish to even consider it to be true” well if you picked the last option “WElcoME tO CHriStIAniTY” sit down and strap up.
@@SimplyABoomer_69 If christianity was disproved I would definitely pay for your bonfire with tax payers money because if you found scripture then I'd be happy for you guys. Anyway a lot of lives are based off of faith. And anyway who would want to create a fiction book about a fake man who everyone should believe in. What would he be getting out of it especially since it would be a secret. Nobody knows who wrote the bible but only Jesus would have a reason to write about it
Why is a Christian being fine with homosexuality great but not being fine with it but loving the people anyway not?
Loving people you disagree with is easy and everyone does it.
@William That's pretty silly to believe everyone is like that bro
You're talking about people who don't believe that loving people you disagree with is easy, or even possible. Tell a liberal that you voted for Trump and are pro-life, but that you love and respect them no matter what their political beliefs are. See if you get love and respect in return.
Liberals/leftists/dems/feminists thrive on hate and disorder. For control and power. I know that not all people with those labels are like that, but until I see sane liberals, celebrities, dem candidates, and feminist activists I will continue label those groups as such.
DarthAlmighty l mm
I don't understand your question. Can you word it a bit better?
If we look at the LGBT community you do not have to be Christian to see that there is a problem with it.
Totally correct. I see these problems too - as an Antitheist
@@Ischesmann me too
this opinion i don't understand -- i've never understood why people get mad over something they aren't directly involved with?
@@Cherrykins what do you mean exactly?
Lance B. like a general question, i'm not saying i agree or disagree, but why do people get upset over things that somebody isn't directly affected by?
"Californian Christianity....."
I've heard enough
Haha
😅😅 i has to laugh when he said that. Kinda pathetic
I like Texas Christianity best. But sometimes Georgia Christianity is pretty good. Just make sure to stay away from New York Christianity and Chicago Christianity.
A geographical location does not change the validity of your faith. There are true students of The Word and followers of Jesus Christ here in California. If anything, the sin that surrounds us causes us to seek the helmet of salvation, the shield of the faith, the breastplate of truth, the sword of the Spirit, and the gospel of Peace. The “Jesus People” of the 70’s started here in Costa Mesa with Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel and continues with Greg Laurie of Harvest in Riverside. Our state has many great teachers and students of The Word. Please give us some peace, brothers and sisters. Division within the church is warned against. God bless all my brothers and sisters in Christ.
I am a Christian, but this video really misrepresents them and pulls that especially and all thing with California out of context. In the video he says this awakening really began in high school and talks about the path of it. Just here on their defense, I still stand strong in my own faith
I'm a proud Mormon and a proud supporter of Steven Crowder. God Bless America!
This is what happens when your standards are out of obligation and not conviction. When you’re surrounded by all opposition, your foundations are shaken. I hope they come out of this as a lesson to gain a personal testimony
Isnt that also for the opposite side? They were religious to start with because their parents were, and they grew up in a very religious place. It took them being around people that arent religious, and mostly dont care about religion to change their mind on religion.
If you can’t still maintain your beliefs in the presence of other viewpoints then maybe there’s something wrong with your beliefs.
Ainz Ooal Gown you could say the same thing for atheists who turn to religion. This is true for both of my parents. They were raised non-religious and when they later learned in life (in their mid 20s) about Jesus, and came to the decision that Christianity was true. They completely changed their views. My point is that it works both ways. Thus, your comment fails to quantify an argument against op.
William F Or that person is easily peer pressured. Or maybe they haven’t really dug into the foundations of their beliefs and are lukewarm in their faith. Either way one could say exactly what you did about any viewpoint so it fails as an argument.
@@natev5831 Thats the point of my comment. Some people are raised into and dont want it later in life. I dont believe in a god, but I think people should believe in what they want. I believe in science, some people dont. My point is it works both ways, the original comment was basically saying that they only changed because they were around people that werent. My comment was to fight that with the same thing happens, just on the opposite side.
In your words, "your comment fails to quantify an argument" as what you said is pretty much what im saying against OP.
JESUS: "Love everybody."
LINK: "But not gay guys, right?"
JESUS: "Did I stutter?"
Sin should not be normalized.
@@brightgarinson3099 I find religious types hold zero moral high ground to judge others. I am not obligated to abide by the tenets of your fictional shit religion
@@brightgarinson3099 Where did he say sin should be normalized? He said that you should love everybody.
Why did I picture Jesus as Stanley Hudson? Lol
@@BlueJDMMR2 As a Christian, I do not judge others. That is not my job. My job is to love others.
Hopefully Rhett and Link can find their way back to God. They're good dudes who managed to get sidetracked with all the worldly BS of Los Angeles.
I agree.
magnetothewhite thats not the point in the religion, we are supposed to guide people to the path of righteousness not sit by the wayside
magnetothewhite Did I say it would affect me? All I said is that I hope they find their way back.
magnetothewhite yeah I understand that never said anything else