Are the Origins of Christmas Really Pagan? | Office Hours, Ep. 2

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024

Комментарии • 106

  • @lifemasterkris1865
    @lifemasterkris1865 19 часов назад +6

    I lived in Israel for three years. I can tell you with certainty that December is the bitter cold, rainy season and shepherds do not “keep watch with their flocks by night” in the fields, but have them penned up. For what it’s worth, he was most likely born at Passover given that all the inns were filled with people all the way out to Bethlehem. Another marker.

    • @danlee1835
      @danlee1835 16 часов назад +3

      I just checked the weather in bethelahem. It's nowhere near bitterly cold.

    • @AndreComtois
      @AndreComtois 3 часа назад

      Really?!? During the roman empire Britain was so temperate the Roman grew wine in the country.
      The Sahara region at used to be a tropical climate before it was a desert.
      Are you so dense as to think the climate wasn't different 2000 years ago?

  • @nicholasbronson9653
    @nicholasbronson9653 23 часа назад +13

    Absolutely it's pagan

  • @coleymoke6709
    @coleymoke6709 12 часов назад

    Thank you for this helpful video.

  • @voyd1507
    @voyd1507 21 час назад +2

    Joseph was traveling to Bethlehem (with his pregnant wife) for the Census of Judea ordered by Quirinius.

  • @edtpnw1336
    @edtpnw1336 День назад +17

    The idea that the catholic conferences editing the scriptures didn’t change some dates is laughable. We’re not even working on the same calendar as biblical times.

    • @cherylfowler5983
      @cherylfowler5983 23 часа назад

      Correct! Only Ethiopia still lives by the BIBLICAL/COPTIC Calendar.
      Further more his name is NOT Jesus. His name is YESHUA! ONLY THE ETHIOPIAN BIBLE IS STILL ALL AUTHENTIC, UNEDITED AND COMPLETE!
      THE VATICAN IS SATANIC!

    • @miriba8608
      @miriba8608 22 часа назад

      😂😂.

    • @henrique7612
      @henrique7612 21 час назад

      The Catholics not only assembled but preserved the bible as protestants use today

    • @batchelerjr
      @batchelerjr 19 часов назад +1

      I sure wish you guys really knew who wrote the Bible and the real story behind it instead of what everybody believes. Because at this point it's laughable how badly punked all of us have been. And our egos convinces us we're free. When that could be farther from any truth.

    • @miriba8608
      @miriba8608 19 часов назад

      @batchelerjr ego is definitely your enemy. Feeling smarter than everyone else and advocating moral relativism? That is what the post moderns believe, especially when it comes to sexuality. Not very wise for someone who thinks they are so smart. You think we believe in freedom to do everything? You are really not free if you are a slave to your appetites.

  • @batchelerjr
    @batchelerjr 19 часов назад

    It's something to do during shorter winter days to keep spirits up and prevent depression from being driven so hard by our owners?

  • @cwg47
    @cwg47 22 часа назад

    How can I see part one of this video

  • @preachermanbe
    @preachermanbe 20 часов назад +1

    Is there any scripture to back up what he is saying?

  • @godssara6758
    @godssara6758 2 часа назад

    I LOVE CHRISTMAS!! Jesus is the Reason for the Season no matter how you slice it! God Bless Us! Everyone!!!!

  • @williamabbott9437
    @williamabbott9437 21 час назад +3

    Hillsdale reveals whom they really are.

    • @GenX-Memories
      @GenX-Memories Час назад

      Well, that's rather ominous. Who exactly did they reveal themselves to be?

    • @williamabbott9437
      @williamabbott9437 Час назад

      @@GenX-Memories
      They are members of groups that need clearance to enter. If you aren't willing to shake hands? You don't enter. They conceal, they do not reveal.

    • @williamabbott9437
      @williamabbott9437 Час назад

      @@GenX-Memories
      What the origins of the dates of times of year aren't Jewish or Christian. This is an objective fact. They are based upon Solar movements.

  • @danielmorgan6779
    @danielmorgan6779 23 часа назад +7

    There is no doubt that Christmas is turning into a secular celebration and has lost to a large extent the true meaning of Christmas! It’s made me to not look at Christmas as a real celebration of Christ! It’s turn into a season of selfishness and not giving! People have been damaged by the Commercialization of Christmas!

    • @austindenotter19
      @austindenotter19 21 час назад +1

      Some have some havent.

    • @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu
      @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu 21 час назад +4

      Daniel Morgan The word Christmas does not appear in the Bible. No date for the Nativity is given in the scriptures; but a clue is revealed in the book of Luke, chapter 2, verse 8, that gives us an indication of when the Nativity did not happen! It reveals that men were keeping watch over their livestock in the fields. Till this day, if you were to visit the Holy Land in December, you will not see livestock being kept outside and in the field! During this time of year in the Holy Land-which is in the northern hemisphere-it is chilly and rainy, it is the rainy season! Animals are not kept outside at this time of year. That fact, in addition to the fact that there were men in the fields watching their flocks at the time of the Nativity indicates that the Nativity happened outside of the rainy season. Yeshua bar-Joseph, the Hebrew name for the Greek name Jesus Christ, never observed or celebrated His birth, nor the anniversary of it, nor did He direct His disciples to do either of those things; and the apostles likewise did not observe and celebrate the birth of the Messiah and did not teach or direct others to do so. In the twenty-third chapter of Leviticus the feasts and Sabbaths of the Lord which are to be observed by Israel throughout its generations are enumerated. There is no mention of Christmas or even of the Nativity. Neither is there anything stated about observing and celebrating the resurrection of Yeshua; and there is nothing said about celebrating Easter. The plain truth about Christmas is that it has no Biblical basis for an observance or celebration of it!

    • @danielmorgan6779
      @danielmorgan6779 21 час назад +1

      @ We have always celebrated birthdays! If we want to celebrate the birthday of our savior and chose a day to do so, it should be all about Christ-mas!! It certainly should not be about gifts! I celebrate my Lord and Savior! That’s all I do!

    • @Unknown.servant
      @Unknown.servant 20 часов назад +1

      ​@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu all well and good.....only in the Word we find Jesus going to the feast that was most likely Purim, which was not directed by God to observe. Yet, Christ did not condemn any for observing this holiday. It's not that we Christians say you must observe Christmas in honor of Christ; the problem arises from Christian's who condemn those who do observe Christmas with no Biblical reason.

    • @jayburris6252
      @jayburris6252 20 часов назад +2

      First, this has been lamented for HUNDREDS of years. We can all individually celebrate as we see fit. It’s your personal responsibility to keep your celebrations as Christ centered during the season.

  • @edwintaber6465
    @edwintaber6465 11 часов назад

    The Magi were using a particular star to locate Jesus. The winter solstice was likely a time where star data was greater and more accurate. At the solstice the particular star would be directly overhead.

    • @richardkeeten3933
      @richardkeeten3933 10 часов назад

      By the time they showed up, he was around 2 years old.

  • @dB_944
    @dB_944 18 часов назад +7

    The Bible does not say anything about celebrating Christ’s birth. Certainly, his death, burial, and resurrection, but not his birth.

    • @m444ss
      @m444ss 16 часов назад +1

      Which verse(s) say to celebrate His death?

    • @dB_944
      @dB_944 15 часов назад +2

      @ he instituted the lords supper the night he was betrayed.
      1 Corinthians 11:23-26 (KJV)
      23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
      26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.” This is done every first day of the week: Acts 20:7 (KJV)
      7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.”

    • @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu
      @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu 14 часов назад

      @@dB_944 There is no verse in the scriptures that directs anyone to remember, observe or celebrate the resurrection, there is only the one that directs His disciples to remember His death.

    • @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu
      @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu 13 часов назад

      @@dB_944 Why do you say that it is done every first day of the week? The Lord directed that it be done on the evening of the Passover, and He set the example for when it was to be done by instituting it during the Passover supper. The first day of the week is not an anniversary of the Passover and is not the Sabbath day, which is the seventh day of the week. Historically both Israel and Judah were punished for Sabbath-breaking by the Lord by being invaded, conquered, and taken into exile, Israel first in 721BC by Assyria, and then later Judah, by Babylon in 595BC.

    • @dB_944
      @dB_944 12 часов назад

      @ that was the old covenant. We’re under the new covenant.

  • @damnyankeesdaughter5427
    @damnyankeesdaughter5427 15 часов назад

    They chew you up for being Christian now. My ancestors came here for religious freedom and…….. well….. this place has changed 😢

  • @CyndiGabe
    @CyndiGabe 23 часа назад +1

    Thank you for this short clip! Excellent info

  • @jons2447
    @jons2447 15 часов назад +1

    *ABSOLUTELY!*
    First, Jesus *never* celebrated a birthday in his life!
    The ancient Jews did *not* celebrate birthdays because of the worship of pagan gods associated with birthday celebrations.
    Early birthday celebrations included a sacrifice to the pagan (false) god that shared the same birthday as the human birthday celebrant.
    Thusly, on that basis alone *all* birthday celebrations are absolutely pagan.
    (Remember, the Almighty God never changes so true then is true now.)
    Second, the Bible proves that Jesus was *not* born on the "birthday of the invincible Sun".
    Jesus' ministry was for 1/2 a "week" of years or 3-1/2 years.-Daniel 9:27.
    According to the Bible Jesus began his ministry when he turned thirty, like the Kohathites.
    We know when Jesus died so disregarding the 3 full years count 6 months from his death and we have the time of his birth.
    He died on April 3, 33 AD(C.E.)
    Counting six months (forward or backward) we get late September or early October.
    Certainly *NOT* December!
    Simply read the Bible and count.
    That is all that is needed to *prove* Jesus could not have been born in December.

  • @Unborn-Lives-Matter
    @Unborn-Lives-Matter 16 часов назад +2

    Okay, seriously? I expect better from Hillsdale college. Six months from December is NOT September, it is June. Three months later WOULD be September. September was when the Roman census took place, to which Mary and Joeseph were traveling. So, it is also likely the time when Jesus was born. I am sorry, not sorry, but I quit watching this in the middle. I don't have enough time to waste...

    • @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu
      @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu 13 часов назад +2

      @@Unborn-Lives-Matter Hillsdale College is wonderful for its defense of liberty and the Declaration of Independence, the American Constitution, the Electoral College, capitalism and free enterprise, etc., and generally speaking does pursue truth; but it is not on solid ground when defending the observance and celebration of Christmas and Easter, observance of the Sabbath on Sunday or of mainstream “Christianity” that does not proclaim and teach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, meaning that purported mainstream Christianity does not proclaim the return of Jesus Christ as the head of the world ruling government of the Kingdom of God in the age to come in the world tomorrow.

    • @SpotofTeaPlease
      @SpotofTeaPlease 8 часов назад +1

      He said 6 months from March 25 is September 25. December 25 was Jesus's conception date.

    • @Unborn-Lives-Matter
      @Unborn-Lives-Matter Час назад

      @@SpotofTeaPlease Exactly. I celebrate Christmas as the day Christ was conceived, NOT the date of His birth. It is the date that God became a human in every aspect. Amazing!

  • @mourningwarbler
    @mourningwarbler 12 часов назад

    It's sad that "Torah" is a bad word among many Christians and Christian teachers. Why do Christians teach that the 4th Commandment was changed? The Saviour observed the Biblical sabbath vs the Catholic sabbath. The Saviour observed His Feasts vs the man-made holy days. It says in Exodus 13 and Deuteronomy 6 that observing Passover, etc, is as a sign as frontlets between the eyes and on the hand: thinking & doing what the Father wants us to think and do! Could that be as opposed to the "mark of the Beast"? When I was a child someone told me the reason that Sabbath changed from Saturday (the 7th day) to Sunday (the 1st day) of the week; but if that person had been observing the Feasts of the Creator, he would have known that the Saviour arose on the first day of the week since First Fruits always lands on the first day of the week. I don't think it is evil to observe the "traditional day of Messiah's birth," but why not observe Feast of Dedication too? It is a traditional holiday celebrating the MIRACULOUS! deliverance of the FAITHFUL Jews from a one world secular humanist church state government under Antiochus Epiphanes. According to Maccabees (in the original KJV), there were "renegade" Jews too. Because of the miracle, there was the Hebraic culture into which our Messiah, who observed His Own Feasts & Sabbaths, was born! HalleluYah!

  • @merlinwizard1000
    @merlinwizard1000 День назад

    2nd, 18 December 2024

  • @SkyForgeVideos
    @SkyForgeVideos День назад +3

    Motivated reasoning much?

  • @lifemasterkris1865
    @lifemasterkris1865 19 часов назад +4

    Christmas is a wallpapering over of Saturnalia with Christian thematic elements. It’s a great celebration for children because it teaches them to never trust any adults - even their parents who lie to them that Santa is real. That’s a hard epiphany when that hits.

  • @TheTradDadShow
    @TheTradDadShow День назад +4

    Excellent video! Christmas is Christ's birth.

    • @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu
      @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu 20 часов назад +2

      @TheTradDadShow Christmas has no Biblical basis, and everyone who thinks that they are Christian and that they are worshipping the Lord of Lords and King of Kings while they celebrate Christmas is worshipping Him in vain because they are keeping the traditions of men while disobeying the commandments of the Eternal, Almighty, and Most High. The Messiah warned about this in the book of Matthew, in Matthew 15:9. A genuine, authentic Christian will have and be led by the Holy Spirit, Romans 8:9; and they who worship Him must worship in Spirit and truth, John 4:23-24. Those who are Christian have a good understanding of the Bible because they keep the Commandments of the Lord, Psalm 111:10. Anyone who thinks that there is anything Christian about Christmas is greatly mistaken!

    • @apostolicengineer8251
      @apostolicengineer8251 18 часов назад +1

      ​​@@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahualso Luke 16:15 that which is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God. I'd say Christmas is highly esteemed among men, also sports and music. They worship their Idols of music and sports. Taylor Swift and many others.

    • @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu
      @Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu 16 часов назад

      @@apostolicengineer8251 You are certainly correct about the winter celebration formerly called the Saturnalia and more recently known as Christmas; and much of popular music and modern athletic competition is not good when measured by Biblical standards. Blessed are you that you are able to discern good from that which is not good! Keep it up and you will have so much to look forward to in the age to come in the world tomorrow!

  • @joshuachurch4380
    @joshuachurch4380 10 часов назад

    When do we celebrate it?
    We do not
    If you love Me you will keep My Commandments
    -Yochanan 14 15
    ....not make up our own Commandments and traditions.. which nullify His Commandments

  • @martinavaslovik3433
    @martinavaslovik3433 21 час назад

    Jesus was born August 21 at noon, 7 B.C. The early church changed his birth date to displace the main holiday of the Mythraic cult which was their main competition at the time.

    • @mourningwarbler
      @mourningwarbler 12 часов назад

      Was there an August in 7 BC, I wonder?

  • @samk833
    @samk833 19 часов назад

    6 April is the date of Christ birth.

  • @EwaLeszkiewicz
    @EwaLeszkiewicz 19 часов назад +1

    How can I see part one of this video