Removing the eyebrows from Vader was one of the few PROPER changes Lucas made. Vader's skull was burned entirely, the eyebrows would not have survived as seen in 1983..
@@antsbull3370 imo I think he looked really weird with the eyebrows, kinda made him look a bit funny, so I'm glad they took them off because I think it gives hive a bit more of a freaky vibe
Ants Bull so i am no one?? you can’t make a blanket statement like that. there are some of us who care about and appreciate these small details and i am one of them.
I’m glad they put young Anakin in as a force ghost. It really made it feel more heartbreaking tbh. Looking at what he used to look like and be. Before the pain.
The eyebrows I think was justified. Also I know I’m in the minority here but I think putting Haden at the end of return of the Jedi added some much needed continuity to the story.
Personally for me as a 22 year old, regardless of the continuity of it I really liked seeing Hayden Christensen at the end of Return of the Jedi. I remember being seven years old and it actually brought a tear to my eye when I first saw the remastered edition and could see the Anakin I grew up with at the end! And yes, sorry but go through what he went through in RotS and show me your eyebrows after LOL!
I have a friend who has the originals on Laserdisc. We watched Star Wars (the first one) once and it was glorious seeing it in its original form. Han mother fucking shot first!
Yep. All I want from Disney is a bluray HD release of the original trilogy without all the CGI additions. Just a clean copy with good audio and video for modern TV sets.
Not The Joker 9- all the star wars channels who do the same video you look at one chanelle and the 2 days after lot of star wars channel will talk about that subject
My 42 year old son was a baby when I saw the first movie. It was like nothing we'd ever seen before. I saw it 9 more times and the last time, I took a cassette recorder (what's that? :-) with a boatload of cassette tapes and recorded the whole movie. Then I proceeded to paint my house, while listening to it over and over and over. I knew every syllable of that script :-D Now, 62, can't remember much at all :-/ But that was the BEST movie I'd ever seen and to date, no movie since, has blown my socks off like that did. Lucas broke the mold into a million pieces with the mind blowing effects of the time.
I did the same thing for Empire! And as a kid would have it playing in the background while I build spaceships out of Lego. Friends would visit and we would build lego whilst listening to Empire Strikes Back. Unbelievably cool.
Episode 3 was the best movie in my opinion, the change of Anakin to Vader is great. 3 is honestly the only great star wars movie personally and maybe the new one with Palpatine will be good but will see.
Woah there buddy! Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Willow are all great! So 1989 is the year you're looking for.
I think you mean everything George Lucas did as a director. His writing and producing credits aren't really a problem. It's just when he's given the helm to direct that things go completely sideways.
things that the prequels did better 1)better action 2)better lightsaber duels 3)better Emperor 4)better Fett 5)better troopers(both clones and droids) 6)better planets
Saw it in the theatre as a kid. It was insane. So much better than any space movie to that point. The audience cheered through all the big scenes. It was like a live show.
OK Boomer has become the standard snowflake's passive aggressive response to the fact that their life has always sucked and their envy shines bright while they hold their hand out for free stuff from the propaganda spewing leftist leaders.
Maybe that's what Lucas was going for... One day he thought, "You know what my record breaking masterpieces could use more of? Comedy! I want people spitting their f*cking drinks all over the place from laughing!" That's about the only reasonable explanation I can think of for most of his changes... Other than he might have just lost his damn mind lol 😂
I absolutely loved it. Come on have you ever seen a more camp shit than that? and besides it sounds way more like a human using the force to seem more loud. I don't buy that "oh he could tots pretend to be a dragon, why no one uses this power after then?
I don't know if you were replying to me or Quintus, but I was referring to the 80s CBS/Fox tapes, not the '97 and post '97 stuff. I still see the 80s tapes pretty often. And how would you know which version he meant , anyway? ;)
You know how they can REALLY make some money? Do one final HD rerelease, with all the atrocious and unnecessary changes rolled back. Han shooting first, Vader not screaming no, wolf man returning. All of it
How about a release with the original 1977 movie and all of the changes made for the 1978 and 1979 releases as well. There were subtle changes, but being on the autism spectrum and nit-picky about little details, I did notice them and it always bugged the heck out of me.
***** Yes, but this 'was' his intentions. He wanted it to look more lively. Some of the CG looks off, but some of it fits in well. Like I said, it's his saga, his story and his vision. If this is what he sees it looking like, then so be it.
I'm not saying he can't or shouldn't make changes. You're right, they're his, he can do whatever he wants to them. I just don't under why he is so stubbornly dead set on keeping the originals from us. Why can't he do both? Without us fans, he'd have nothing.
Changing the "Bring my shuttle!" comment is the one that has bugged me the most. It was full of simmering rage. The replacement had him sounding calm and lackadaisical.
Still waiting for that bluray release of the original trilogy just cleaned up for HDTVs. No special edition CGI needed. Just give me a clean HD copy of the original theatrical cuts Disney.
Never say never. There is a 4k restoration of ANH ("revealed" by Gareth Edwards a month or two ago), and I assume there is of the rest of the trilogy as well. However Fox has the rights to the theatrical version of ANH forever, but it's not impossible that Disney can work out a deal with them to be able to release it in hd.
I missed almost all of these except the "bring my shuttle" line, or rather the removal thereof. Originally when Vader says "bring my shuttle" you can feel the anger practically pouring off the screen. But then it was replaced with something like "prepare my shuttle for departure" and he sounds like a rather camp bureaucrat requesting his ride, there's a good chap. I could put up with most of the other changes, "improvements" but this pretty much killed all the tension that had built up in the past quarter of an hour or so.
"That only the most dedicated fans would know they're there...." then "changes you never noticed"... then "it sticks out ... and it is so in your face". You really need to get a consistent message on these!
I prefer this original ending better. What I love when Anakin appears is that it makes you guess it's him because last time we saw him disfigured umasked; it's such a powerful moment because it tells you what he really looked like (until the prequels came out) and he looks at his children with some much love in his eye which is really emotional. The remastered version doesn't make sense as Anakin's younger form appeared because so many years have passed and also looks nothing like Sebastian Shaw during Anakin's death scene.
Puff daddy yeah I mean I get what you're saying, but Anakin DIED on Mustafar, Obi Wan even said it in ROTJ. Vader was fully created at Anakins destruction, it only makes sense the last time he had a slight bit of light in him is portrayed as a force ghost. Vader was redeemed, not transformed.
Darth Rice: Anakin dit not die on Mustafar, that's just Obi Wan being dramatic. It's just the usual metaphysical BS the jedi (and most religions) are selling about the body being just a vessel for the spirit and such. Lets just be real here: Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker, who got disfigured horribly, was put in a black life support suit, and who has gotten older/warped by the dark side over the years. He redeemed when he was old, so the spirit shown should be the one from the original movies: old Anakin. Lucas just showed Haydens version to make the prequels seem more relevant.
The original made no sense either bro. Anakin wouldve been 45. The actor was in his 70s and looked it too. If a Force Ghost was to appear with the appearance he had when he died it wouldnt be an old man Anakin it would be a pale bald scarred limbless man. So either way Force Ghosts take liberty with their appearance.
John S let's real life real talk here what really doesn't make sense is changing a old movie to fit in with something that came out 22 years latter how about writing the new to fit with the old don't be a lazy hack and change something already established.
at least it was Sabastian Shaw's eyebrows that were removed, knowing George he would have prefered removing his head altogether for a shitty CG crispy Christiansen.
I missed the Ewoks jamming session at the end of "Return". Using Stormtroopers helmets as drums is just the sort of recycling we need to embrace to save our planet!
Personally for me as a 22 year old, regardless of the continuity of it I really liked seeing Hayden Christensen at the end of Return of the Jedi. I remember being seven years old and it actually brought a tear to my eye when I first saw the remastered edition and could see the Anakin I grew up with at the end! And yes, sorry but go through what he went through in RotS and show me your eyebrows after LOL!
Captain Rorke Kings Guard I agree. If you have money to just fuck around with why not? 99% of directors wouldn't out all that effort just to change something small but Lucas is in special lol
It’s because anakin was last ‘Anakin’ before he turned to Vader, which was when he was young. So having the old version doesn’t make sense, because when he was old he was ‘Vader’.
How is replacing Sebastian Lewis Shaw with Hayden Christensen as Anakin's force ghost an unnecessary change? I honestly felt like it was necessary to make the scene more touching and heartbreaking yet heartwarming knowing that Anakin is finally at peace.
The Hayden ghost works if you’re watching the prequel trilogy first. If you’re watching the original trilogy by itself, it doesn’t. I wish Lucas had actually shot Hayden for that instead of using awkward outtake footage and pasting his head over Sebastian Shaw, though.
@@CulturalMarxist4985 yeah I thought that to but George Lucas said that he already was consumed by the dark side and had committed many atrocities in the name of the empire
@@treeman5648 Thanks to Attack of the Clones, Anakin was a cold-blooded killer even before he became Darth Vader. He always had darkness in him, but he looks like Sebastian Shaw when he's least consumed by it and least corrupt.
Christian Highland no it doesn't. Lucas' reasoning is completely flawwed. The very last we see of "Anakin Skywalker" is when Vader finally saves Luke and kills the Emperor. He even goes on to have a small conversation with Luke before his death. He started his life as Anakin Skywalker, he ended his life as Anakin Skywalker
The only other argument would be for him to be a force ghost that looks burned up like in the end but the look of the original force ghost makes no sense he never would of looked like that
Ace of Games In his redemption, he went BACK to being Anakin Skywalker. He went back to his former self. That's why Christian is in the edit, and why it's fine, imo at least.
Changing Vaders head made sense because 1)That was the last time that Vader really felt like his old self(before he got his limps chopped off and burned in lava) 2)Vader died at the age of 48 Sebastian Shaw was way too old 3)Vader could not know how he would look like if he was older 4)Sebastian Shaw looks nothing like Luke Ace of Games according to your locig Vaders force ghost should look like Vader with his skin still burned up and with all his limps missing
There really needs to be a (somewhat) definitive fan edit that includes the good changes and omits all of the bad and pointless ones. Or even better, release yet another version that allows the user to toggle on/off all of the changes made since the originals.
In the name of those who gladly payed to see this movie again, I can affirm that we just wanted to see the restored film, the remastered sound and cleaner picture, even the one scene or two they said they found, but I was appalled by the defacement of the original piece.
I just wish they would release the original trilogy on dvd - i wonder if Disney will ever allow that now that they own the property ? I was 13 in 1977, and my memory fades daily - i'd love to see them again, someday.
The puppet was better. It shows a passage of time. Yoda is like 10-15 years older in episode 2 ad 3, and then an additional 15-20 years in 5 and 6. I don't know how Yoda's species ages, but I would presume that they to an extent, especially since he looks different between the trilogies. Plus, there is Yoda action in episodes 2 and 3, so it would be jarring for him to transition from puppet to CGI, but there isn't any in episode 1 so it's better for him to be puppet.
catholiccontriversy Except that the puppet looks creepy and the movement was poorly done. Compared to the puppet they used in the eighties, it is a colossally inferior, embarrassing effort. Eliminating that garbage with a proper electronic version was one of the most obvious and incontrovertibly justifiable changes they could have made to that movie.
that was really weird how the '97 puppet looked so horrendously worse than the '81 puppet. was there a reason they didn't just reuse the old puppet? i mean, i get that he's like 20 years younger, but when you're talking about a 900 year life span that makes zero difference.
Whether you like the Ewoks or not, you _do_ realize that them blinking isn't something you're _supposed_ to notice, right? That the whole point of adding more animated characteristics normalizes them so you lose focus of their abnormality, correct? Jesus! Kids today!
Yes, as we are meant to sympathize with them, they need to exhibit the most human appearance as possible without looking exactly human. You make the aliens the audience is meant to root for look and act as human as possible while making the aliens the audience is meant to hate be as nonhuman as possible. It's movie making 101.
Most of the time when I watch star wars it's when I visit my parents over the holidays. I watch their VHS box set from back in the day. So imagine my surprise when I watched a new hope on DVD and there were things I could have sworn were not in the original. Turns out they weren't.
Which I should add means that I never understood the "Han shot first" controversy because that's the only way I had ever seen it growing up. Yeah he shoots first, said college-age me, you can see it right there in the film!
I still can't believe I only recently found out you can't be a dark side force ghost... With that being said Anakin makes sense as a force ghost because Vader didn't come back from the dark side, he just wanted to save his son from a person he was tired of being under & knew he'd have to kill at some point anyway...
They were subtitled AND translated by 3PO, right? So the viewer knew what 3PO was going to say before he said it, and knew which lines would make him uncomfortable to say? That's how I rememebr it, but it's been some time.
You know, the Mona Lisa was a great film, but she really enjoyed wine and cheese, and I felt it wasn't realistic to not have her enjoying wine and cheese in the painting. So we added in Mona Lisa at a party drinking wine and enjoying cheese and we're not longer offering patrons the ability to see the original painting, only the new and improved painting, based on the factually accurate scene of her enjoying wine and cheese at a dinner party. You're welcome.
What about it? Should the work the original actor put in not be seen? Should Christopher Nolan CGI Maggie Gyllenhaal into Batman Begins? The Empire Strikes Back, written by Lawrence Kasdan and directed by Irvin Kershner, made $500 million dollars as it was originally released. The movie you watch now is not the same movie that stunned audiences in 1980 and for some reason it's really hard to watch that version.
I consider some changes good, but I know that nobody would ever agree on which were good and which were distracting (and quite a few people have a soft spot for Monkey-face Emperor), so I would vote for no changes at all, just to be safe. Maybe a few digital touch-ups of the effects, at most, but don't add or alter scenes.
"What about replacing the emperor with Ian McDiarmid in Empire Strikes Back?" Would have worked better if the makeup had been adjusted to show he had aged, but he is the younger Emperor from Ep. 3. So, as it stands now, Palpatine did all his ageing between 5 & 6.
I'm down with the removed eyebrows and the Slave 1 addition. They would indeed be burned off and having Slave 1 show up finally gives some reason for Boba Fett to be liked. He not only saw through Han's plan while the rest of the Empire derped out, he tailed them. We knew so little about Fett. Anything to justify his popularity is welcome, I feel.
I also understand why the "wolf man" close up was replaced. These movies have always been for children, too, so removing a scary looking wolf with red eyes is understandable.
>Anything to justify his popularity is welcome, I feel. I don't know why but this part of your comment creeped me out the most. I mean your comment is all pretty standard creepy fanboy bullshit, but I'm just trying to wrap my head around this particular concept... Lucas needed to add a scene to a movie that came out 20+ years ago, to make a character in that movie more sympathetic, so that fans of that character have a more justified reason for liking him? WHAT??!?!?!
I saw Star Wars in the theater opening week. So I've definitely seen the original Star Wars on the big screen no less. I still have the glossy pamphlet they gave everyone. Today I still have a copy of the original VHS tape that is very close to the theatrical release. I still have a VCR that works too.
brandon caleb But that's what the actual Krayt dragon sounds like. You do realize that that's the thing Obi Wan used during the whole Grevious thing right.
Just because something doesn't sound terrifying to us earth humans doesn't mean it wouldn't sound terrifying to sentient life on other planets, which I suspect is the point. The sound itself isn't what's terrifying, it's what the sound represents (kind of like with a rattle snake...you don't run from a baby rattle, but you know instinctively to freeze when you hear the snake). The fact that most people can't wrap their minds around this concept is telling of the human condition---one seeped in narcissism. "Oh it's not scary to me so I refuse to imagine a world in which it is scary..."
This is what you call strawman. There are dozens of very significant changes made to the movies, and many of them are awful to look at. Things like Han Solo's head digitally shifting to dodge a point blank shot and horrible-looking CGI monsters walking all over the screen is what people complain about. And those are legitimate complaints, especially since you literally can't purchase a high quality version of the original movie.
Fine Wine Daily reminds me of the big bang theory episode where the guys are about to start a star wars original trilogy marathon and howard says “ lets hurry up before Lucas changes it again.” That killed me 🤣
@@rey-me2no Another pointless thing on RUclips? People who don't know the difference between "there" (indicating a place) and "their" (indicating ownership) And for brevity, you could have also abbreviated "they are" into "they're" (But you would have probably spelled that wrong also).
You are correct. These changes are so small and so trivial that people like me who have only seen the Special Editions don't necessarily realize they're not in the original releases. Why does that make them bad again?
SwenglishGamer except when they actually fix continuity. What I mean is, for someone who saw the special editions first, going back to the originals is just as jarring as the other way around.
It doesnt. Its just the retards on the internet that will do anything just so they can complain say its bad. Its George Lucas' mind. If he thinks there should be changes then thats what should happen.
Well as he said in the video numerous times, some of them interrupt the dramatic tension of the main action. (Why show a shuttle scene with Vader that isn't necessary when it dulls the focus on Luke's pain and rescue?) That's bad. Some of them create new plot holes. (Why don't they notice Boba Fett tailgating?) That's bad. Some of them add pointless extra time to the movie. (scenic jar-jar binks taxi ride) That's arguably bad. The video did justify most of the criticism. On top of that, there's the general philosophy that unless the change is absolutely necessary or an improvement, it's better to leave a movie alone so as not to distort it obsessively over time. The same way you shouldn't colorize every black and white movie from the past just because most films are shot in color now.
You forgot the reprise of Darth Vader's "NOOOOOOO" in Return of the Jedi. See, now both trilogies end with Darth Vader saying "NO!" It's like poetry, it rhymes.
It wasn't pointless though, it's so blatantly stupid and out of place that I think Lucas did it deliberately to piss off his "fans"... Even Lucas wouldn't do that and think it's a good idea, I know he's naive but he's also smarter than people give him credit for...
ugaaa5 people still forget that despite his wealth he's an indie director at heart and he's never had a great idea of how things work in the industry. With the original star wars he had people there to tell him that his script wasn't that great, that the intro sequence was far too long etc., with the prequels he was given complete free reign which is why they fall down a bit in the writing and directing departments (i.e. dialogue, some sub-par acting and plotholes). Despite that I always loved the prequels and so did most people at the time, it's just the case of obnoxious tryhard fans giving Lucas a hard time, that and people forgetting that star wars was always a kids' film (and it could still be a good kids' film without the disney-fication...)
I am one of the those people who saw the original in the theater (7 times). I look forward to the day when Disney releases an original cut of the triology so I don't have to suffer through things like the terrible new noise Ben made to scare off the Sandpeople (did notice that one), the crap on the screen when they first arrive at Mos Eisley so you can't even see the land speeder, the dumb new Cantina song, the song at Jabba's, the song by the Ewoks, Han shooting *second,* adding that dumb scene between Jabba and Han (retread dialogue and the size is just off),the ridiculous pandering to Boba Fett fanboys (he's my favorite action figure, so I'm not a hater, but the changes make no sense), Luke's scream (you know the one), Vader muttering 'no' before tossing the Emperor, and replacing Sebastian Shaw's ghost. I also look forward to when they redo Eps. 1-3 so that the prequel doesn't totally screw over Eps. 4-6. Midichloirans? Ancient Order of the Whills? Boba Fett had a blood feud with the Skywalkers? R2D2 can fly? Chewie knew Yoda? Padme dies less than a day after the twins are born? I could go on, but I've said enough.
I haven't watched the Blu-Rey version of ESB recently, but didn't they remove Luke's scream for that one? I think I remember thinking "Oh, thank goodness" when I saw that.
I agree that the original versions should be released, but how can you advocate for keeping the originals "pure" while saying changes should be made to the prequels?
Quinn I think that's like saying the Bible should be kept as it is, but it is okay to make changes to 50 Shades of Grey. The first is revered by many and the second is objectively God-awful writing.
Harmy's Despecialized Editions Also, the Whills, while not expounded upon until Rogue One (great movie, BTW), are canon. Check out the original gold-colored novelization of Star Wars.
If there's one thing I've learned about Star Wars,It's that no matter what George Lucas or Disney does with the movies, the fanboys will NEVER stop bitching. R2-D2 hides in a small cave? "OMG,THIS IS COMPLETE BS! THEY CAN TOTALLY SEE HIM!!! THIS MOVIE IS SUCH GARBAGE!" Lucas adds a bit more cover in front of R2? "OMG,THIS IS COMPLETE BS! THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR HIM TO FIT THERE!!! THIS MOVIE IS SUCH GARBAGE!". Vader has eyebrows? " OMG,THEY SHOULD'VE TOTALLY BEEN BURNED OFF!!! LUCAS DOESN'T PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION TO SMALL DETAILS!" Lucas edits Vader's eyebrows off? "OMG WHY DID HE REMOVE THE EYEBROWS!? LUCAS PAYS TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO SMALL DETAILS!" Lucas makes the Star Wars movies? "OMG,HE'S DOING SUCH A TERRIBLE JOB! GIVE THEM TO DISNEY,THEY WILL DO SO MUCH BETTER THAN HIM!!!" Disney makes the movies? "OMG,THEY'RE DOING SUCH A TERRIBLE JOB! GIVE THEM BACK TO LUCAS,HE DID SO MUCH BETTER THAN THEM!!!"
The problem is, you can't treat such a massive fanbase as a single, like-minded entity. Literally every living human being on Earth knows what Star Wars is, and has probably seen some of it, and humans love to argue. Every individual shot of every single Star Wars movie is loved, hated, and forgotten by someone, and not a single one of them agrees on any of it.
Just a couple of thoughts here: 1. Vader's shuttle - This wasn't added in 2011. This was added in the 1997 Special Edition. It's possible that Lucas tweaked it again for the Blu Ray release, but it definitely was around before that. Find a DVD copy of the special edition and see for yourself. 2. Artoo's rock: Let's not forget that this has been changed not just in the Blu Ray, but also the Special Edition DVD. Rocks have been added each time. I was okay with the original rock addition in the special edition. But the Blu Ray thing is something else altogether. 3. Thanks for sharing.
All the changes made to the original trilogy were not pointless--they were all a scheme to continually make little tweaks/repackage it and make more money off of it. *What is terrible is that GL never released the original theatrical releases on DVD or BR in cleaned up form without any changes whatsoever which is what all the fans have wanted but he could care less.* I used to like Lucas a lot before that. That was a very wrong thing to do and you would think that an artist would want to preserve the original releases as those are the ones that made Star Wars what it is and are still superior to every single version since. This same thing has happened to other films like Last of the Mohicans which still cannot be watched in it's theatrical release on DVD or BR, instead you have a to watch a butchered and inferior version. We should start a petition or something....
Typical star wars fanboy. What he did was make alot if shit better because better tech was available. Do I agree with all the changes... No... But you can't blame a guy for wanting to keep perfecting his movies. Anakin force ghost for example makes sense! That's what Anakin looked like before he became Vader and got burned
No it doesn't make sense. If you believe that Anakin and Vader are truly different people, like Obi Wan would have us believe, then you still have to admit that Vader turned back into Anakin at the end of Revenge of the Sith. So the last "light side" version of Anakin was the burned-up egghead guy who died in Luke's arms. No, in-universe logic doesn't really support it. I think +GodsGrace has found the only logical reason: money. In this case as an actor Hayden Christiansen is the bigger name, if only purely because he was the star of two Star Wars movies and not just the one scene.
Also people think that C-3PO’s line: “There’s no where to go” after he says “This is suicide” was an addition to the Special Edition when it was in the original theatrical cut. The line was actually on the 35 mm Dolby Stereo and 70 mm 6 track audio print of the film as different prints of the film had different Dolby stereos which had a few differences in audio.
Actually, the added scene of Vader going to his shuttle was already in the 2004 DVD version, so it was not added in the blu ray but added even earlier..
That atrocity is probably the best possible proof of GL's utter hackiness. I mean Brett Ratner levels. George Lucas was considered a brilliant up-and-coming filmmaker in his time at USC. I remember seeing a documentary that mentioned one of his greatest talents was masterful editing. So how does a great editor turn one of the most brilliantly tense, tightly-edited sequences IN FILM HISTORY into the abortion of cinematic stop-and-go traffic that is its current iteration? Answer: a great editor doesn't. A mediocre editor doesn't. A hack does. He crapped all over a fantastic piece of work that perfectly combined genius writing, cinematography, and music because some moron might not understand how Vader got from Cloud City to the Executor. After he explicitly growled, "Bring my shuttle." And by the way, that garbage dates from 1997, IIRC. I'll have to dig up my 2002 (?) P&S VHS copy (my 1997 SpEd seems to have been lost in military moves) to confirm. That, and Luke screaming with Emperor Palpatine's Hans Gruber cry, was so jarring it's like hearing the Wilhelm scream in a non-humorous death scene. Ruins the movie and is utter trash.
The shuttle scene was originally added for the 1997 version but had what was obviously another actor saying Vader's new line. In the 2004 dvd debut the sequence was still there but the new line was redubbed by James Earl Jones (while he was recording his lines for Revenge of the Sith. His additional dialogue for the new Emperor scene in Empire Strikes Back was also recorded then).
That was probably the worst of them all, lol. It's almost like you can see George sitting there on his fat ass in the editing room saying something stupid like: _"I feel like the audience will not get the message here, it needs more stuff that sort of rhymes."_ That idiotic change manage to ruin one of the few good scenes in that otherwise weak sequel. It wouldn't surprise me if he does all these changes on purpose just to fuck them up.
I especially like "I feel like the audience will not get the message here, it needs more stuff that sort of rhymes." because he was making changes as if it hadn't even reached audiences yet.
It's not that pointless in that it gives some life to him and it brings the continuity of the repeated phrases like "may the force be with you" - we see them in every movie. It's better without it, but not entirely pointless
Most of the "making Mos Eisley look busier" stuff was pointless, with the possible exception of getting rid off the awful blur effect under Luke's land speeder on its way in. I'd even tolerate the wide angle shot from the special edition, except it starts with that 'funny' bit with the droid hitting the smaller flying droid in front of the rebel transporter ship.
rocketcon you mean those vhs 4:3 copies that would look awful on a 4K screen? Despecialized versions are the closest thing to Blu ray copies of the original vhs tapes.
"pointless" doesn't remotely suggest one is just as good as the other. In fact, in many cases, "stupid" would have been a better word choice. But, the video is just trying to show that there was no point for him to bother making these stupid changes. The fact that most of these changes are self-evidently objectively worse goes unsaid.
The one thing only very few people seem to know is that in the original, the real original rotj Vaders Force Ghost was him in his suit without the helmet. Just like he died. No jedi robe. Just him and his suit without the helmet
But why? I guess we are supposed to assume Luke knows who he is by process of elimination, but it's so unnecessary to see Hayden there! His acting was so cringey in the prequels, who wants to see him the originals anyway!
Falshion if you've seen any of the interviews, you surely would have realized that it was mainly the scriptwriters who screwed him over and that Lucas encouraged the whiny tones in the acting. I personally think Hayden did a good job with what he was limited to.
"Anakin never looked like anything like that man at the end of Episode 6" Original ep.6 sghost is correct, This is how he would have looked WHEN HE DIED if he wasnt robotized. WHy would his ghost become young again? Why does Obi Wan or Yoda ghost don't look young? lolz.
Honestly I’m happy with the changes, when I was a kid watching the movies on the original pre mastered versions I never noticed boba fett following the falcon, it wasn’t until Lucas added the extra scenes that I noticed that. A lot of other scenes made total sense like the blinking and the eyebrows, but for the most part I just think it’s cool that even in 2011 George Lucas was still working on the movies, to me that means he actually cared about his creation. Even though everyone already loves the movies he was still trying to make them better. Thank you George Lucas for giving us the gift of Star Wars.
You probably didn't notice the Falcon being followed because it wasn't shown? lol But it does make sense that showing them being tailed ruins the whole "the rebel got away" atmosphere--removing the element of surprise that they were being tracked. Its like Lucas decided the new generation of fans wouldn't be smart enough to follow context clues and needed to be shown unnecessary details. Like Vader getting on his ship to leave cloud city. He said that's what he was going to do, there's no need to show it. Once you see him somewhere else you go "oh yeah he said he was leaving". But its whatever, it's the fans that made the Star Wars we all know and love today. Lucas always seems confused about what he was doing with his story and evolving it as he wrote it as if everything he released was a first draft. Just like he didn't know from the beginning that Luke and Leia would be siblings. Confused little man.
Wynter G, actually Boba Fett's ship was shown leaving the trash to follow the Falcon in the original version of the movie, but it's more subtle and distant. It just shows the engines light up and it starts moving in the same direction. There might have been a shot of Boba Fett in the cockpit turning to look toward the Falcon too. There was just no up-close sweeping shot of the two ships flying 500 feet apart.
xeno rama yeah I actually had to pop in the original after watching this video. They show slave one start up and go after them then him in the cockpit real quick
I thought adding jabba was pretty pointless. There’s so much more to gain with him unknown in a new hope and when you see him in return of the Jedi there is more suspense
I was born in 2003 and watched the VHS (I have all three original movies) episodes religiously as a kid. I know several other people my age who did as well.
Jabba's convo with disguised Leia was subtitled at least as far back as the TV release in the late 80s/early 90s. Source: I had it taped from tv on vhs and probably watched it a hundred times growing up and it's the reason I've always known "wonky" means "mighty" in hutteese. Also the subtitles are there to show the viewer what C3P0 is choosing to translate and what he is tactfully choosing to alter to maintain diplomacy. It's actually kind of cool.
It was subtitled in the original release...this was not an addition. I remember sitting in the theater next to a guy reading it out to his son next to him.
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Am I the only think that Vader's shuttle thing was actually godd
I'm pretty sure a couple of the subtitles from #5 were actually in the original cut of Return of the Jedi. At least, the ones from Jabba that 3PO didn't translate. Also I actually like Obi-Wan's 2004 dragon call. It's terrifying, but it's not unpleasant to hear. The 2011 call is complete and utter crap though. But yeah, the other changes are not really necessary.
Phew! I thought I was going crazy. I remember my VHS copy had Jabba subtitles, my favorite being, "this bounty hunter is my kind of scum. Fearless and inventive."
I actually liked Hayden Christensen's force ghost cameo. Every time I saw him come back, smiling and happy- it always wrenched something in my heart to see him like that.
The little crazy CGI guy in Jabba's den during nap time is AGAINST the plot assumption that this was a chosen time to strike based on EVERYONE being asleep.
As suggested by the toilet sound joke, there are various reasons that not everyone would be asleep even if everyone was supposed to. Plus, why would literally everyone in a palace (let alone a semi-militarized fortress as Jabba's palace seems to be) be asleep at the same time? There would always be servants baking things at 2am if we're basing assumptions on Earth. Servants would be doing other various things all night. Guards would hopefully be be awake in guard posts and patrolling, regardless of the time. Did they ever imply it was anything other than night time, or the sleeping time in whatever sort of schedule Jabba and his minions kept? Idk if the people Jabba surrounded himself with on Tatooine were semi-nocturnal because of the tendency to commit crime after dark, or what.
@@humaj19 It's not that life on Tattooine couldn't have had people awake, it's that original ROTJ played the scene perfectly... everyone WAS asleep and when the sleeping seemed established, Leia makes her suspenseful move to free her true love from carbonite. The suspense was that SOMEONE MIGHT WAKE UP. Maybe you're a millennial and don't realize that FICTIONAL limited scenes with somewhat unrealistic dramatic elements is WHAT VIEWERS WANT, not overly fussy or realistic meta moments. The films today forget the importance of ESCAPISM and are too self conscious, just like Lucas' millenialesque edits to a great original trilogy.
Removing the eyebrows from Vader was one of the few PROPER changes Lucas made. Vader's skull was burned entirely, the eyebrows would not have survived as seen in 1983..
No-one cares though, therefore it was pointless and a waste of time
@@antsbull3370 imo I think he looked really weird with the eyebrows, kinda made him look a bit funny, so I'm glad they took them off because I think it gives hive a bit more of a freaky vibe
Vader's vanity had him applying Rogaine to his brows. ha ha
But before the prequels we never knew he was burned though.
Ants Bull so i am no one?? you can’t make a blanket statement like that. there are some of us who care about and appreciate these small details and i am one of them.
I’m glad they put young Anakin in as a force ghost. It really made it feel more heartbreaking tbh. Looking at what he used to look like and be. Before the pain.
...Before the EMPIRE.
Before the pain ...typical millenial comment.
Same here, young Anakin was also my favourite character
@Norman Roberts Yeah ok whatever, old fart
@@MidnightRobotics Fart? Allright. Smell on it.
The eyebrows I think was justified. Also I know I’m in the minority here but I think putting Haden at the end of return of the Jedi added some much needed continuity to the story.
I agree with the both. Placing Hayden in Return of the Jedi linked the two trilogies more.
I agree with that one as well.
I agree.
Personally for me as a 22 year old, regardless of the continuity of it I really liked seeing Hayden Christensen at the end of Return of the Jedi.
I remember being seven years old and it actually brought a tear to my eye when I first saw the remastered edition and could see the Anakin I grew up with at the end!
And yes, sorry but go through what he went through in RotS and show me your eyebrows after LOL!
It makes sense with Christensen as the Force ghost as that was the last time he looked like when he was a Jedi.
Lucas once said "Movies are never finished, they are abandoned."
Now his tampering constantly makes a lot more sense
@C man Man that's what I love about him
@MOVIES KHAZANA 1 was shit 2 was okay 3 was amazing
Yea how dare he improve on his own creation..
@@BoleDaPole all I did was give context as to why he did what he did, that's it.
can Disney just give us the originals? I will pay good money if they did
Raven's Hold This. They're s hard to come by now that it's insulting.
i have them on VHS :) they're 33 years old
I have a friend who has the originals on Laserdisc. We watched Star Wars (the first one) once and it was glorious seeing it in its original form. Han mother fucking shot first!
Raven's Hold I have the originals on the limited edition tin DVD box set. a real treasure.
Yep. All I want from Disney is a bluray HD release of the original trilogy without all the CGI additions. Just a clean copy with good audio and video for modern TV sets.
10 RUclips channels that are running out of ideas.
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10- Wachmojo.com
Not The Joker 9- all the star wars channels who do the same video you look at one chanelle and the 2 days after lot of star wars channel will talk about that subject
Simon Boudreault agree
8- every clickbait GTA Online and other games RUclipsr ever
And you watch them all, for free.
sparkydeltorro yeah, I'm not complaining
5:11 The guy had his flesh burned... the guy shouldn't have hair
But we must shit on every change!!
@@mosab432 🙄🙄🙄
You've completely missed the point of the video - try watching it again and listening to what he is saying
@@antsbull3370 It's not a "pointless" change. It does actually make sense, the guy shouldn't have had any hair after he got burned.
Unless his roots were completely burned they’d grow back
My 42 year old son was a baby when I saw the first movie. It was like nothing we'd ever seen before. I saw it 9 more times and the last time, I took a cassette recorder (what's that? :-) with a boatload of cassette tapes and recorded the whole movie. Then I proceeded to paint my house, while listening to it over and over and over. I knew every syllable of that script :-D Now, 62, can't remember much at all :-/ But that was the BEST movie I'd ever seen and to date, no movie since, has blown my socks off like that did. Lucas broke the mold into a million pieces with the mind blowing effects of the time.
I did the same thing for Empire! And as a kid would have it playing in the background while I build spaceships out of Lego. Friends would visit and we would build lego whilst listening to Empire Strikes Back. Unbelievably cool.
Awesome recount of a fan story.
Episode 3 was the best movie in my opinion, the change of Anakin to Vader is great. 3 is honestly the only great star wars movie personally and maybe the new one with Palpatine will be good but will see.
Linda Clements that was the longest comment ever
@TigerClaw! You know, there are these crazy things we have, called opinions.
Everything George Lucas did after 1983 is pointless
Woah there buddy! Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Willow are all great! So 1989 is the year you're looking for.
Last Crusade was directed by Spielberg who is lightyears ahead of Lucas, but Temple of Doom is trash that's just unpleasant to watch.
Pole Cat Oh yeah let's not forget the amazing Temple of Doom and Howard the Duck... The Last Crusade wasn't even his movie so that doesn't count.
I think you mean everything George Lucas did as a director. His writing and producing credits aren't really a problem. It's just when he's given the helm to direct that things go completely sideways.
From my point of view, Indiana Jone and the Temple of Doom is superior to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The eyebrows make sense, tbh.
Dominic Joy woah lets not go that far
Dominic Joy your opinion is the worst
Dominic Joy Wow, yeah, the love story between Anakin and Padme was really well-acted, huh? I mean, Natalie Portman showed so much passion. Oh wait...
things that the prequels did better
1)better action
2)better lightsaber duels
3)better Emperor
4)better Fett
5)better troopers(both clones and droids)
6)better planets
Better designs, better concepts better ideas. however poor script and too much over reliance on cg
Who else wasn’t born when the original trilogy came out
Thanks for all of likes ! It’s the most I’ve ever got and probably ever will get so 😊 thanks !
Saw it in the theatre as a kid. It was insane. So much better than any space movie to that point. The audience cheered through all the big scenes. It was like a live show.
@Ahmad Robertson ok boomer
wasnt born for first two....
@CrystalCritter It's a joke, my man. Chill, there are worse things to worry about than a meme.
OK Boomer has become the standard snowflake's passive aggressive response to the fact that their life has always sucked and their envy shines bright while they hold their hand out for free stuff from the propaganda spewing leftist leaders.
I actually spit on my phone with laughter at that Obi’s 3rd growl noise
Noah Larsen same
Maybe that's what Lucas was going for... One day he thought, "You know what my record breaking masterpieces could use more of? Comedy! I want people spitting their f*cking drinks all over the place from laughing!"
That's about the only reasonable explanation I can think of for most of his changes... Other than he might have just lost his damn mind lol 😂
orig still the best other 2 suck
I absolutely loved it. Come on have you ever seen a more camp shit than that? and besides it sounds way more like a human using the force to seem more loud. I don't buy that "oh he could tots pretend to be a dragon, why no one uses this power after then?
When i first read this i heard split
I LOVE where Vader says "Bring my shuttle". He sounds so ticked off after what happened with Luke!
I just want my original VHS version back.
Just visit any thrift store or pawn shop. They're still pretty easy to find.
Not the original version bud. You're thinking of the later VHS releases right before dvd came out.
I don't know if you were replying to me or Quintus, but I was referring to the 80s CBS/Fox tapes, not the '97 and post '97 stuff. I still see the 80s tapes pretty often.
And how would you know which version he meant , anyway? ;)
With VHS video quality too. These were the days.
Quintus Aurelius Symmachus Psst, Google "Harmy despecialized". You're welcome.
You know how they can REALLY make some money? Do one final HD rerelease, with all the atrocious and unnecessary changes rolled back. Han shooting first, Vader not screaming no, wolf man returning. All of it
Themurloc the special editions are better then the originals accept it. The changes and added scenes where needed it makes the films better
Yea they could. If snatch that shit right up 2
Themurloc amen brother! Lucas seriously fucked up those 3 classics. I'm glad I still have the originals on VHS...
B Quinn he made them better most true fans like me like the added scenes
How about a release with the original 1977 movie and all of the changes made for the 1978 and 1979 releases as well. There were subtle changes, but being on the autism spectrum and nit-picky about little details, I did notice them and it always bugged the heck out of me.
I think the eyebrow change was a good one. Why would Anakin have eyebrows after having his whole body burned?
Some of the additions are pointless, but George changed things to his original version. It's his saga, he can do what he wants.
***** Yes, but this 'was' his intentions. He wanted it to look more lively. Some of the CG looks off, but some of it fits in well. Like I said, it's his saga, his story and his vision. If this is what he sees it looking like, then so be it.
Actually they were his intentions. He just wasn't able to pull them off in 1977; all of the effects done back then were made on the fly.
I'm not saying he can't or shouldn't make changes. You're right, they're his, he can do whatever he wants to them. I just don't under why he is so stubbornly dead set on keeping the originals from us. Why can't he do both? Without us fans, he'd have nothing.
That's what I've been saying!
Litshttam And I suppose this is the same David Icke who believes the British Royal Family are secretly lizard-people in human disguises?
I am altering the movies. Pray I don't alter them further!
you have peepeevision
This deal is getting worse all the time!
T0mN7 this comment section made me miss the toilet, and bump my head on the way out
better go clean this up, I gotta bad feeling about this...
T0mN7 I pray
Don't forget adding Vader screaming "NOOOO!!!" As he throws Palpatine off the edge
Captain Rex Except that was one everyone noticed. These are unnoticed ones.
WTF!!!
Ahaha me and my girl noticed that and that was just funny asf it ruined that scene
How can it ruin this scene?
Changing the "Bring my shuttle!" comment is the one that has bugged me the most. It was full of simmering rage. The replacement had him sounding calm and lackadaisical.
Still waiting for that bluray release of the original trilogy just cleaned up for HDTVs. No special edition CGI needed. Just give me a clean HD copy of the original theatrical cuts Disney.
endorbr you can download the "despecialized edition"
True. But its still not the same as an authorized bluray or 4K quality from an HD polished master.
endorbr Well it's never happening.
Never say never. There is a 4k restoration of ANH ("revealed" by Gareth Edwards a month or two ago), and I assume there is of the rest of the trilogy as well. However Fox has the rights to the theatrical version of ANH forever, but it's not impossible that Disney can work out a deal with them to be able to release it in hd.
You must be high. If Disney can make a buck off it, it will happen. Even if they have to buy Fox.
I preferred the change in ghosts and the eyebrow removal, but whatever. To each their own. XD
Kitty Spalla The eyebrow removal was much a needed update .
You and me sister. It makes sense.
I missed almost all of these except the "bring my shuttle" line, or rather the removal thereof. Originally when Vader says "bring my shuttle" you can feel the anger practically pouring off the screen. But then it was replaced with something like "prepare my shuttle for departure" and he sounds like a rather camp bureaucrat requesting his ride, there's a good chap. I could put up with most of the other changes, "improvements" but this pretty much killed all the tension that had built up in the past quarter of an hour or so.
"That only the most dedicated fans would know they're there...." then "changes you never noticed"... then "it sticks out ... and it is so in your face".
You really need to get a consistent message on these!
I prefer this original ending better. What I love when Anakin appears is that it makes you guess it's him because last time we saw him disfigured umasked; it's such a powerful moment because it tells you what he really looked like (until the prequels came out) and he looks at his children with some much love in his eye which is really emotional. The remastered version doesn't make sense as Anakin's younger form appeared because so many years have passed and also looks nothing like Sebastian Shaw during Anakin's death scene.
Puff daddy yeah I mean I get what you're saying, but Anakin DIED on Mustafar, Obi Wan even said it in ROTJ. Vader was fully created at Anakins destruction, it only makes sense the last time he had a slight bit of light in him is portrayed as a force ghost. Vader was redeemed, not transformed.
The entire original ending to Return of the Jedi was better, in my opinion not just the force ghost debacle.
Darth Rice: Anakin dit not die on Mustafar, that's just Obi Wan being dramatic. It's just the usual metaphysical BS the jedi (and most religions) are selling about the body being just a vessel for the spirit and such. Lets just be real here: Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker, who got disfigured horribly, was put in a black life support suit, and who has gotten older/warped by the dark side over the years. He redeemed when he was old, so the spirit shown should be the one from the original movies: old Anakin. Lucas just showed Haydens version to make the prequels seem more relevant.
The original made no sense either bro. Anakin wouldve been 45. The actor was in his 70s and looked it too. If a Force Ghost was to appear with the appearance he had when he died it wouldnt be an old man Anakin it would be a pale bald scarred limbless man. So either way Force Ghosts take liberty with their appearance.
John S let's real life real talk here what really doesn't make sense is changing a old movie to fit in with something that came out 22 years latter how about writing the new to fit with the old don't be a lazy hack and change something already established.
at least it was Sabastian Shaw's eyebrows that were removed, knowing George he would have prefered removing his head altogether for a shitty CG crispy Christiansen.
Krontok funny thing is he actually altered his face a little to look like Hayden
"I love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!"
Krontok are you fucking serious ? if smn burns in lava , there wont be any eyebrows ! you brainless fool !!
I missed the Ewoks jamming session at the end of "Return". Using Stormtroopers helmets as drums is just the sort of recycling we need to embrace to save our planet!
Personally for me as a 22 year old, regardless of the continuity of it I really liked seeing Hayden Christensen at the end of Return of the Jedi.
I remember being seven years old and it actually brought a tear to my eye when I first saw the remastered edition and could see the Anakin I grew up with at the end!
And yes, sorry but go through what he went through in RotS and show me your eyebrows after LOL!
Honestly tho, the eyebrows were noticeable and horrible, so removing them was good.
AGREED!! THANK YOU!!
Then Rebels happened, and things got a bit more confusing.
T h a n k y o u .
Captain Rorke Kings Guard the eyebrows represent humanity in an "evil " darth vador
Captain Rorke Kings Guard I agree. If you have money to just fuck around with why not? 99% of directors wouldn't out all that effort just to change something small but Lucas is in special lol
The eyebrows didn't need an explanation, they always looked really weird and out of place.
The Ewok eyelids also made them look better.
Agree with the Ewok one. But what do you mean with "out of place"? To me it made sense that Anakin didn't have eyebrows.
JarAxe I'm agreeing with you, I said the eyebrows always looked out of place.
it's petty
aimless_wandering? More like "aimless_commenting"
Haydens ghost was pretty necessary imo cause after watching the prequels and then going to rotj and seeing an old man is a bit confusing
Are you stupid
i dont think it was needed but i dont hate it
It’s because anakin was last ‘Anakin’ before he turned to Vader, which was when he was young. So having the old version doesn’t make sense, because when he was old he was ‘Vader’.
But he was old in return of the jedi so it wasn't really necessary lol
@ZadfrackGlutz Zesozose LUCAS HAS SPOKEN!
How is replacing Sebastian Lewis Shaw with Hayden Christensen as Anakin's force ghost an unnecessary change? I honestly felt like it was necessary to make the scene more touching and heartbreaking yet heartwarming knowing that Anakin is finally at peace.
exactly, especially cause that was the last time he was truly Anakin
The Hayden ghost works if you’re watching the prequel trilogy first. If you’re watching the original trilogy by itself, it doesn’t. I wish Lucas had actually shot Hayden for that instead of using awkward outtake footage and pasting his head over Sebastian Shaw, though.
@@treeman5648 The last time he was truly Anakin was when he died on the second Death Star in Return of the Jedi.
@@CulturalMarxist4985 yeah I thought that to but George Lucas said that he already was consumed by the dark side and had committed many atrocities in the name of the empire
@@treeman5648 Thanks to Attack of the Clones, Anakin was a cold-blooded killer even before he became Darth Vader. He always had darkness in him, but he looks like Sebastian Shaw when he's least consumed by it and least corrupt.
The eyebrows make sense. Since Anakin was so badly burned he shouldn't have eyebrows anymore.
Cyanakrli They did, that's why the Special Editions exist.
rocketcon Exactly
Maybe they were false eyebrows? Who says evil dictator types don't do vain things with their hair. . .
that makes sense
Didnt Anakin only burn his lower body and not the head anyway?
you will never convince me Hayden Christian becoming the force ghost wasn't a good idea it makes perfect sense
Christian Highland no it doesn't. Lucas' reasoning is completely flawwed. The very last we see of "Anakin Skywalker" is when Vader finally saves Luke and kills the Emperor. He even goes on to have a small conversation with Luke before his death. He started his life as Anakin Skywalker, he ended his life as Anakin Skywalker
The only other argument would be for him to be a force ghost that looks burned up like in the end but the look of the original force ghost makes no sense he never would of looked like that
Ace of Games In his redemption, he went BACK to being Anakin Skywalker. He went back to his former self. That's why Christian is in the edit, and why it's fine, imo at least.
Get out, prequel lover
Changing Vaders head made sense because
1)That was the last time that Vader really felt like his old self(before he got his limps chopped off and burned in lava)
2)Vader died at the age of 48 Sebastian Shaw was way too old
3)Vader could not know how he would look like if he was older
4)Sebastian Shaw looks nothing like Luke
Ace of Games according to your locig Vaders force ghost should look like Vader with his skin still burned up and with all his limps missing
There really needs to be a (somewhat) definitive fan edit that includes the good changes and omits all of the bad and pointless ones. Or even better, release yet another version that allows the user to toggle on/off all of the changes made since the originals.
The pod race was already too long.
If they are pointless then why make a video about it?
If you think the video is pointless, then why make a comment about it?
Because hate get views.
This and all of this. These types of fans will want to be buried in a giant original VHS box of Star Wars lol.
why click the video? you saw the title fuckwit...
I didn't say I thought the video was pointless.
I just wondered why.
I'm pretty sure Lucas was just so tired of Star Wars hardcore fans he did everything he could to piss them off.
Honestly I fuckin am too
No, it was for money. He knew his fans are stupid and would gladly pay more money for the same movie they have already seen.
In the name of those who gladly payed to see this movie again, I can affirm that we just wanted to see the restored film, the remastered sound and cleaner picture, even the one scene or two they said they found, but I was appalled by the defacement of the original piece.
He did do everything he could to piss them off, he sold it too Disney
I just wish they would release the original trilogy on dvd - i wonder if Disney will ever allow that now that they own the property ?
I was 13 in 1977, and my memory fades daily - i'd love to see them again, someday.
The reason the slave 1 wasn't detected because it has stealth features that allow it to be undetected by han
It didn't look like it was invisible.
That's crap. Call it what it was: a shoddily done, tension-stealing, pointless visual effect for an unnecessary additional shot.
The best part of R2's rock is that the rock is missing in the wide shots.
I don't think the puppet changed to match ep 2 and 3, it changed to cgi because the puppet looked like utter shit
DarkKnight182 And the cgi looks better?
About a trillion trillion quadrillion floppity gillion times better.
The puppet was better. It shows a passage of time. Yoda is like 10-15 years older in episode 2 ad 3, and then an additional 15-20 years in 5 and 6. I don't know how Yoda's species ages, but I would presume that they to an extent, especially since he looks different between the trilogies. Plus, there is Yoda action in episodes 2 and 3, so it would be jarring for him to transition from puppet to CGI, but there isn't any in episode 1 so it's better for him to be puppet.
catholiccontriversy Except that the puppet looks creepy and the movement was poorly done. Compared to the puppet they used in the eighties, it is a colossally inferior, embarrassing effort. Eliminating that garbage with a proper electronic version was one of the most obvious and incontrovertibly justifiable changes they could have made to that movie.
that was really weird how the '97 puppet looked so horrendously worse than the '81 puppet. was there a reason they didn't just reuse the old puppet? i mean, i get that he's like 20 years younger, but when you're talking about a 900 year life span that makes zero difference.
Whether you like the Ewoks or not, you _do_ realize that them blinking isn't something you're _supposed_ to notice, right? That the whole point of adding more animated characteristics normalizes them so you lose focus of their abnormality, correct? Jesus! Kids today!
Yes, as we are meant to sympathize with them, they need to exhibit the most human appearance as possible without looking exactly human. You make the aliens the audience is meant to root for look and act as human as possible while making the aliens the audience is meant to hate be as nonhuman as possible. It's movie making 101.
Most of the time when I watch star wars it's when I visit my parents over the holidays. I watch their VHS box set from back in the day. So imagine my surprise when I watched a new hope on DVD and there were things I could have sworn were not in the original. Turns out they weren't.
Which I should add means that I never understood the "Han shot first" controversy because that's the only way I had ever seen it growing up. Yeah he shoots first, said college-age me, you can see it right there in the film!
I still can't believe I only recently found out you can't be a dark side force ghost... With that being said Anakin makes sense as a force ghost because Vader didn't come back from the dark side, he just wanted to save his son from a person he was tired of being under & knew he'd have to kill at some point anyway...
The eyebrows on darth-vader changed makes sense since they got burned in Revenge of the sith
except the fact that hair grows back and he's been around for like 25 years
Then why hasn't his hair on his head grown back?
Not often through the scars of burns.
hair can grow back in minor burns... but Anakin had severe ones.
But Vader's eyebrows are clearly back in the Vader vs. Ahsoka fight in Rebels! Pablo Hidalgo and Dave Filoni have some serious explaining to do!!!
Uh, there were subtitles in the original release of Jedi as well. I have it on VHS, pre-edit crap.
Yep, almost every line from that exchange, if not every single one, was subtitled in 1983.
They were subtitled AND translated by 3PO, right? So the viewer knew what 3PO was going to say before he said it, and knew which lines would make him uncomfortable to say? That's how I rememebr it, but it's been some time.
News flash it's not cool to own a vhs
George didn't know when to leave well enough alone.
Right, that's why he was able to release movies in the first place SMH
I thought the noise Obi Wan made was a Sith howl- since at this point he became one of the best force users
I think Vader looks more sympathetic and sad without the eyebrows.
Imagine artists going to museums and adding details to their paintings for years to come.
You know, the Mona Lisa was a great film, but she really enjoyed wine and cheese, and I felt it wasn't realistic to not have her enjoying wine and cheese in the painting. So we added in Mona Lisa at a party drinking wine and enjoying cheese and we're not longer offering patrons the ability to see the original painting, only the new and improved painting, based on the factually accurate scene of her enjoying wine and cheese at a dinner party.
You're welcome.
The Scream was great, but it just missed monster which caused the scream.
Are you calling George Lucas an artist? That's adorable.
@Sparrowhawk It is an analogy. Nobody called Lucas an artist.
But that's actually what they do. They don't go to museums but they keep changing their works, sometimes for their entire life.
Anakin’s most strong part of his body. That can resist fire and skin Being ripped off.
HIS EYEBROWS
Midichlorians concentrate in the 'brows. It is known.
Surprised the list didn't include removing the line "You're lucky you don't taste very good" in Empire. Now THAT was pointless.
Disney needs to go through the original trilogy, keep in all the good, necessary changes, release the movies in 4K, and then never touch them again.
What about replacing the emperor with Ian McDiarmid in Empire Strikes Back?
What about it? Should the work the original actor put in not be seen? Should Christopher Nolan CGI Maggie Gyllenhaal into Batman Begins? The Empire Strikes Back, written by Lawrence Kasdan and directed by Irvin Kershner, made $500 million dollars as it was originally released. The movie you watch now is not the same movie that stunned audiences in 1980 and for some reason it's really hard to watch that version.
Marc Campbell I prefer the movie that makes an ounce of sense when you watch ROTJ right after it
I consider some changes good, but I know that nobody would ever agree on which were good and which were distracting (and quite a few people have a soft spot for Monkey-face Emperor), so I would vote for no changes at all, just to be safe. Maybe a few digital touch-ups of the effects, at most, but don't add or alter scenes.
"What about replacing the emperor with Ian McDiarmid in Empire Strikes Back?" Would have worked better if the makeup had been adjusted to show he had aged, but he is the younger Emperor from Ep. 3. So, as it stands now, Palpatine did all his ageing between 5 & 6.
I'm down with the removed eyebrows and the Slave 1 addition. They would indeed be burned off and having Slave 1 show up finally gives some reason for Boba Fett to be liked. He not only saw through Han's plan while the rest of the Empire derped out, he tailed them. We knew so little about Fett. Anything to justify his popularity is welcome, I feel.
I also understand why the "wolf man" close up was replaced. These movies have always been for children, too, so removing a scary looking wolf with red eyes is understandable.
>Anything to justify his popularity is welcome, I feel.
I don't know why but this part of your comment creeped me out the most. I mean your comment is all pretty standard creepy fanboy bullshit, but I'm just trying to wrap my head around this particular concept...
Lucas needed to add a scene to a movie that came out 20+ years ago, to make a character in that movie more sympathetic, so that fans of that character have a more justified reason for liking him? WHAT??!?!?!
I saw Star Wars in the theater opening week. So I've definitely seen the original Star Wars on the big screen no less. I still have the glossy pamphlet they gave everyone. Today I still have a copy of the original VHS tape that is very close to the theatrical release. I still have a VCR that works too.
The original cuts need to be released on blu ray. I'm good with all the added CGI bs
The change to the "Obi Wan yell " in episode four is just ridiculous. It sounds horrible now
brandon caleb But that's what the actual Krayt dragon sounds like. You do realize that that's the thing Obi Wan used during the whole Grevious thing right.
Just because something doesn't sound terrifying to us earth humans doesn't mean it wouldn't sound terrifying to sentient life on other planets, which I suspect is the point. The sound itself isn't what's terrifying, it's what the sound represents (kind of like with a rattle snake...you don't run from a baby rattle, but you know instinctively to freeze when you hear the snake).
The fact that most people can't wrap their minds around this concept is telling of the human condition---one seeped in narcissism. "Oh it's not scary to me so I refuse to imagine a world in which it is scary..."
No it wasn't Krayt Dragons are massive and afaik only found on tatooine. That was a Varactyl.
Dorian Gray Perfectly said!
The Krayt Dragon from kotor sounds like the current version of his scream
Old star wars fans: "Oh shit they added an extra pebble in the background! The Original trilogy is ruined!" *Slits Wrist*
Kaptin Fancy HAHAHAHAHAHA YES!
New star wars fans: I've spoiled myself.
This is what you call strawman. There are dozens of very significant changes made to the movies, and many of them are awful to look at. Things like Han Solo's head digitally shifting to dodge a point blank shot and horrible-looking CGI monsters walking all over the screen is what people complain about. And those are legitimate complaints, especially since you literally can't purchase a high quality version of the original movie.
You said it best - thumbs up :-)
Fine Wine Daily reminds me of the big bang theory episode where the guys are about to start a star wars original trilogy marathon and howard says “ lets hurry up before Lucas changes it again.” That killed me 🤣
You know one of the most pointless things on RUclips?
*whatculture*
why you watching then??
@@raff.beejan because I clicked on it then immediately wrote this comment then clicked off.
BlueYakes so you didn’t even watch the video
@@mark-vo4gz I've seen there other videos and they are just full of sh|t.
@@rey-me2no Another pointless thing on RUclips? People who don't know the difference between "there" (indicating a place) and "their" (indicating ownership) And for brevity, you could have also abbreviated "they are" into "they're" (But you would have probably spelled that wrong also).
I like the original trilogy, as they were when they came out.
You are correct. These changes are so small and so trivial that people like me who have only seen the Special Editions don't necessarily realize they're not in the original releases.
Why does that make them bad again?
SwenglishGamer except when they actually fix continuity. What I mean is, for someone who saw the special editions first, going back to the originals is just as jarring as the other way around.
SwenglishGamer that's not what I said though
It doesnt. Its just the retards on the internet that will do anything just so they can complain say its bad. Its George Lucas' mind. If he thinks there should be changes then thats what should happen.
its not that theyre bad, its that theyre pointless and sometimes make less sense to include.
Well as he said in the video numerous times, some of them interrupt the dramatic tension of the main action. (Why show a shuttle scene with Vader that isn't necessary when it dulls the focus on Luke's pain and rescue?) That's bad. Some of them create new plot holes. (Why don't they notice Boba Fett tailgating?) That's bad. Some of them add pointless extra time to the movie. (scenic jar-jar binks taxi ride) That's arguably bad. The video did justify most of the criticism.
On top of that, there's the general philosophy that unless the change is absolutely necessary or an improvement, it's better to leave a movie alone so as not to distort it obsessively over time. The same way you shouldn't colorize every black and white movie from the past just because most films are shot in color now.
You forgot the reprise of Darth Vader's "NOOOOOOO" in Return of the Jedi.
See, now both trilogies end with Darth Vader saying "NO!" It's like poetry, it rhymes.
This.
Or, "Do not want" in Backstroke of the West.
"It's like poetry, it rhymes."
Hopefully.
It wasn't pointless though, it's so blatantly stupid and out of place that I think Lucas did it deliberately to piss off his "fans"... Even Lucas wouldn't do that and think it's a good idea, I know he's naive but he's also smarter than people give him credit for...
ugaaa5 people still forget that despite his wealth he's an indie director at heart and he's never had a great idea of how things work in the industry. With the original star wars he had people there to tell him that his script wasn't that great, that the intro sequence was far too long etc., with the prequels he was given complete free reign which is why they fall down a bit in the writing and directing departments (i.e. dialogue, some sub-par acting and plotholes). Despite that I always loved the prequels and so did most people at the time, it's just the case of obnoxious tryhard fans giving Lucas a hard time, that and people forgetting that star wars was always a kids' film (and it could still be a good kids' film without the disney-fication...)
I was going to complain, but now I can't be asked. I simply don't agree with these. However I must say the CGI Yoda is FAR FAR better.
The Smart-Casual Gamer. I'd say the best cgi is when Han Solo walks over Jabbas tail and gets shot up 15 centimetres then back down😂
You're American aren't you?
The phrase is, "I can't be arsed!"
@@Doodlebugdude Americans don't say "I can't be asked" either. I think he might be a Martian.
"However I must say the CGI Yoda is FAR FAR better." Your blasphemy is noted. Your slot in Hell is now reserved. We'll keep it warm for you!
@@Doodlebugdude I'm from Cardiff, make of that you will.
I also MUCH prefer the Prequels.
Wolfman was actually my favourite background character from the cantina 😎
I am one of the those people who saw the original in the theater (7 times). I look forward to the day when Disney releases an original cut of the triology so I don't have to suffer through things like the terrible new noise Ben made to scare off the Sandpeople (did notice that one), the crap on the screen when they first arrive at Mos Eisley so you can't even see the land speeder, the dumb new Cantina song, the song at Jabba's, the song by the Ewoks, Han shooting *second,* adding that dumb scene between Jabba and Han (retread dialogue and the size is just off),the ridiculous pandering to Boba Fett fanboys (he's my favorite action figure, so I'm not a hater, but the changes make no sense), Luke's scream (you know the one), Vader muttering 'no' before tossing the Emperor, and replacing Sebastian Shaw's ghost. I also look forward to when they redo Eps. 1-3 so that the prequel doesn't totally screw over Eps. 4-6. Midichloirans? Ancient Order of the Whills? Boba Fett had a blood feud with the Skywalkers? R2D2 can fly? Chewie knew Yoda? Padme dies less than a day after the twins are born? I could go on, but I've said enough.
I haven't watched the Blu-Rey version of ESB recently, but didn't they remove Luke's scream for that one? I think I remember thinking "Oh, thank goodness" when I saw that.
esadday 5 of the changes you mentioned are annoying...
I agree that the original versions should be released, but how can you advocate for keeping the originals "pure" while saying changes should be made to the prequels?
Quinn I think that's like saying the Bible should be kept as it is, but it is okay to make changes to 50 Shades of Grey. The first is revered by many and the second is objectively God-awful writing.
Harmy's Despecialized Editions
Also, the Whills, while not expounded upon until Rogue One (great movie, BTW), are canon. Check out the original gold-colored novelization of Star Wars.
If there's one thing I've learned about Star Wars,It's that no matter what George Lucas or Disney does with the movies, the fanboys will NEVER stop bitching. R2-D2 hides in a small cave? "OMG,THIS IS COMPLETE BS! THEY CAN TOTALLY SEE HIM!!! THIS MOVIE IS SUCH GARBAGE!" Lucas adds a bit more cover in front of R2? "OMG,THIS IS COMPLETE BS! THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR HIM TO FIT THERE!!! THIS MOVIE IS SUCH GARBAGE!". Vader has eyebrows? " OMG,THEY SHOULD'VE TOTALLY BEEN BURNED OFF!!! LUCAS DOESN'T PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION TO SMALL DETAILS!" Lucas edits Vader's eyebrows off? "OMG WHY DID HE REMOVE THE EYEBROWS!? LUCAS PAYS TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO SMALL DETAILS!" Lucas makes the Star Wars movies? "OMG,HE'S DOING SUCH A TERRIBLE JOB! GIVE THEM TO DISNEY,THEY WILL DO SO MUCH BETTER THAN HIM!!!" Disney makes the movies? "OMG,THEY'RE DOING SUCH A TERRIBLE JOB! GIVE THEM BACK TO LUCAS,HE DID SO MUCH BETTER THAN THEM!!!"
cool story bro!
actully it is a cool story your so nice :D
The problem is, you can't treat such a massive fanbase as a single, like-minded entity. Literally every living human being on Earth knows what Star Wars is, and has probably seen some of it, and humans love to argue. Every individual shot of every single Star Wars movie is loved, hated, and forgotten by someone, and not a single one of them agrees on any of it.
Georgi Ganchev fack off
As a kid I loved the Ewoks and recorded and re-watched the made-for-TV spin-off movies. It seems most fanboys hate 'em.
The Star Trek arena episode added the Gorn blinking as well, but those edits and upping the SFX without replacing them was really interesting and nice
Just a couple of thoughts here:
1. Vader's shuttle - This wasn't added in 2011. This was added in the 1997 Special Edition. It's possible that Lucas tweaked it again for the Blu Ray release, but it definitely was around before that. Find a DVD copy of the special edition and see for yourself.
2. Artoo's rock: Let's not forget that this has been changed not just in the Blu Ray, but also the Special Edition DVD. Rocks have been added each time. I was okay with the original rock addition in the special edition. But the Blu Ray thing is something else altogether.
3. Thanks for sharing.
I think the video is about pointless changes in general, not just the Blu-ray version
All the changes made to the original trilogy were not pointless--they were all a scheme to continually make little tweaks/repackage it and make more money off of it. *What is terrible is that GL never released the original theatrical releases on DVD or BR in cleaned up form without any changes whatsoever which is what all the fans have wanted but he could care less.* I used to like Lucas a lot before that. That was a very wrong thing to do and you would think that an artist would want to preserve the original releases as those are the ones that made Star Wars what it is and are still superior to every single version since. This same thing has happened to other films like Last of the Mohicans which still cannot be watched in it's theatrical release on DVD or BR, instead you have a to watch a butchered and inferior version. We should start a petition or something....
Typical star wars fanboy. What he did was make alot if shit better because better tech was available. Do I agree with all the changes... No... But you can't blame a guy for wanting to keep perfecting his movies. Anakin force ghost for example makes sense! That's what Anakin looked like before he became Vader and got burned
couldnt* care less
No it doesn't make sense. If you believe that Anakin and Vader are truly different people, like Obi Wan would have us believe, then you still have to admit that Vader turned back into Anakin at the end of Revenge of the Sith. So the last "light side" version of Anakin was the burned-up egghead guy who died in Luke's arms. No, in-universe logic doesn't really support it. I think +GodsGrace has found the only logical reason: money. In this case as an actor Hayden Christiansen is the bigger name, if only purely because he was the star of two Star Wars movies and not just the one scene.
Save movies from their directors!
agreed
*steps on a lego* 4:19
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"the ewoks weren't one of the most popular feature in the original trilogy" THEY'RE CUTE AF, THREATENED THE LIFE OF THE CHARACTERS, AND HELPED 'EM
This is inaccurate. Subtitles were present in Leia's bounty hunter scene in ROTJ prior to Special Edition. I have the OG, pre-CGI trilogy on VHS.
Me too. Grew up on those. Good times
I have a bootleg VHS copy... whoever taped it in the theater had to pan back and forth to get the subtitles in LOL
Also people think that C-3PO’s line: “There’s no where to go” after he says “This is suicide” was an addition to the Special Edition when it was in the original theatrical cut. The line was actually on the 35 mm Dolby Stereo and 70 mm 6 track audio print of the film as different prints of the film had different Dolby stereos which had a few differences in audio.
At least the Phantom Menance taxi change finally showed the non EU fans what a fucking Bothan looked like.
Actually, the added scene of Vader going to his shuttle was already in the 2004 DVD version, so it was not added in the blu ray but added even earlier..
I don't remember that sequence though and the 2004 version is the main version I watch…
Lt. Basil I watch that version too, and I remember it....weird
Zakker Huh. I'll have to watch it again.
That atrocity is probably the best possible proof of GL's utter hackiness. I mean Brett Ratner levels. George Lucas was considered a brilliant up-and-coming filmmaker in his time at USC. I remember seeing a documentary that mentioned one of his greatest talents was masterful editing. So how does a great editor turn one of the most brilliantly tense, tightly-edited sequences IN FILM HISTORY into the abortion of cinematic stop-and-go traffic that is its current iteration? Answer: a great editor doesn't. A mediocre editor doesn't. A hack does. He crapped all over a fantastic piece of work that perfectly combined genius writing, cinematography, and music because some moron might not understand how Vader got from Cloud City to the Executor. After he explicitly growled, "Bring my shuttle."
And by the way, that garbage dates from 1997, IIRC. I'll have to dig up my 2002 (?) P&S VHS copy (my 1997 SpEd seems to have been lost in military moves) to confirm. That, and Luke screaming with Emperor Palpatine's Hans Gruber cry, was so jarring it's like hearing the Wilhelm scream in a non-humorous death scene. Ruins the movie and is utter trash.
The shuttle scene was originally added for the 1997 version but had what was obviously another actor saying Vader's new line. In the 2004 dvd debut the sequence was still there but the new line was redubbed by James Earl Jones (while he was recording his lines for Revenge of the Sith. His additional dialogue for the new Emperor scene in Empire Strikes Back was also recorded then).
They should at least give you the option on the bluray to watch them in there original state.
Don’t forget about the constant changing of the lightsaber sound when they ignite
Another pointless change, Vader's "NO!" In Return of the Jedi
That was probably the worst of them all, lol. It's almost like you can see George sitting there on his fat ass in the editing room saying something stupid like: _"I feel like the audience will not get the message here, it needs more stuff that sort of rhymes."_ That idiotic change manage to ruin one of the few good scenes in that otherwise weak sequel. It wouldn't surprise me if he does all these changes on purpose just to fuck them up.
I especially like "I feel like the audience will not get the message here, it needs more stuff that sort of rhymes." because he was making changes as if it hadn't even reached audiences yet.
Daniel Nicklas V if it is a minor change, then why are you bitching about it
Minor change?!? lol. Even if the movie had been great, that "minor" change would have ruined the entire movie completely; that's how bad it was.
It's not that pointless in that it gives some life to him and it brings the continuity of the repeated phrases like "may the force be with you" - we see them in every movie. It's better without it, but not entirely pointless
How the Hell did George forget that was Vader was in full Anakin mode when he killed Palpatine?
Nah, if he were in full Anakin mode he'd have been monologuing about sand.
The cgi creature added to the "not the droids you're looking for" scene is one of the worst ones.
Most of the "making Mos Eisley look busier" stuff was pointless, with the possible exception of getting rid off the awful blur effect under Luke's land speeder on its way in. I'd even tolerate the wide angle shot from the special edition, except it starts with that 'funny' bit with the droid hitting the smaller flying droid in front of the rebel transporter ship.
Goodbye R2-A5
I always thought all these changes ruin the creativity of the artists who made these beautiful movies
Despecialized Edition. Just get it and be satisfied without George Lucas post 1997 paranoia.
Amen.
Man of Glass Nah, I'll stick with the real versions thanks.
rocketcon you mean those vhs 4:3 copies that would look awful on a 4K screen? Despecialized versions are the closest thing to Blu ray copies of the original vhs tapes.
Man of Glass without GL you wouldnt have. even have star wars ! so stop whining pls
If these changes are so pointless then why cry about them?
Because in the words of Vader: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Victor Roman Not crying at all, just pointing out their pointlessness
"pointless" doesn't remotely suggest one is just as good as the other. In fact, in many cases, "stupid" would have been a better word choice. But, the video is just trying to show that there was no point for him to bother making these stupid changes. The fact that most of these changes are self-evidently objectively worse goes unsaid.
@@AtacamaHumanoid its not objectively worse it's your opinion dude
The one thing only very few people seem to know is that in the original, the real original rotj Vaders Force Ghost was him in his suit without the helmet. Just like he died. No jedi robe. Just him and his suit without the helmet
Who’s here now that they’ve changed it back to Han shot first
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Ujhhh, they did?
no they didn't
MACKLUNKEY
Not on Disney+
Han shot, period. Han didn't shoot first, he shot Greedo before Greedo had a chance to do anything. And no, they didn't.
I prefer the Hayden Christensen Jedi ghost.
I wish he had spoken as a Force ghost, though, (such as "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy", and "I hate sand!"
But why? I guess we are supposed to assume Luke knows who he is by process of elimination, but it's so unnecessary to see Hayden there! His acting was so cringey in the prequels, who wants to see him the originals anyway!
BlueCassio much better looking
Falshion if you've seen any of the interviews, you surely would have realized that it was mainly the scriptwriters who screwed him over and that Lucas encouraged the whiny tones in the acting. I personally think Hayden did a good job with what he was limited to.
"Anakin never looked like anything like that man at the end of Episode 6" Original ep.6 sghost is correct, This is how he would have looked WHEN HE DIED if he wasnt robotized. WHy would his ghost become young again? Why does Obi Wan or Yoda ghost don't look young? lolz.
Honestly I’m happy with the changes, when I was a kid watching the movies on the original pre mastered versions I never noticed boba fett following the falcon, it wasn’t until Lucas added the extra scenes that I noticed that. A lot of other scenes made total sense like the blinking and the eyebrows, but for the most part I just think it’s cool that even in 2011 George Lucas was still working on the movies, to me that means he actually cared about his creation. Even though everyone already loves the movies he was still trying to make them better. Thank you George Lucas for giving us the gift of Star Wars.
You probably didn't notice the Falcon being followed because it wasn't shown? lol But it does make sense that showing them being tailed ruins the whole "the rebel got away" atmosphere--removing the element of surprise that they were being tracked. Its like Lucas decided the new generation of fans wouldn't be smart enough to follow context clues and needed to be shown unnecessary details. Like Vader getting on his ship to leave cloud city. He said that's what he was going to do, there's no need to show it. Once you see him somewhere else you go "oh yeah he said he was leaving". But its whatever, it's the fans that made the Star Wars we all know and love today. Lucas always seems confused about what he was doing with his story and evolving it as he wrote it as if everything he released was a first draft. Just like he didn't know from the beginning that Luke and Leia would be siblings. Confused little man.
Wynter G, actually Boba Fett's ship was shown leaving the trash to follow the Falcon in the original version of the movie, but it's more subtle and distant. It just shows the engines light up and it starts moving in the same direction. There might have been a shot of Boba Fett in the cockpit turning to look toward the Falcon too. There was just no up-close sweeping shot of the two ships flying 500 feet apart.
I agree with you Brent. There are so many crybabies on here who need to get a life. Or please end it so we don't have so hear your wining.
xeno rama yeah I actually had to pop in the original after watching this video. They show slave one start up and go after them then him in the cockpit real quick
I thought adding jabba was pretty pointless. There’s so much more to gain with him unknown in a new hope and when you see him in return of the Jedi there is more suspense
The 2004 “ghostly whistle” krayt dragon call gave me nightmares, dude
Not only did I see the original during its original run, I sneaked in without paying.
Nice
snuck*
you're so cool holy shit.
Thanks for the awkward praise, Connie.
Both sneaked and snuck are correct. Sneaked is the original term used, but now it is changing over the snuck.
Removing the brows was pretty logical...
Comparatively few people? Every damn kid born after 1965 or so saw it in its original form, and an s-ton of them are still alive...
I was born in 2003 and watched the VHS (I have all three original movies) episodes religiously as a kid. I know several other people my age who did as well.
Jabba's convo with disguised Leia was subtitled at least as far back as the TV release in the late 80s/early 90s. Source: I had it taped from tv on vhs and probably watched it a hundred times growing up and it's the reason I've always known "wonky" means "mighty" in hutteese. Also the subtitles are there to show the viewer what C3P0 is choosing to translate and what he is tactfully choosing to alter to maintain diplomacy. It's actually kind of cool.
It was subtitled in the original release...this was not an addition. I remember sitting in the theater next to a guy reading it out to his son next to him.
Am I the only think that Vader's shuttle thing was actually godd
I'm pretty sure a couple of the subtitles from #5 were actually in the original cut of Return of the Jedi. At least, the ones from Jabba that 3PO didn't translate. Also I actually like Obi-Wan's 2004 dragon call. It's terrifying, but it's not unpleasant to hear. The 2011 call is complete and utter crap though.
But yeah, the other changes are not really necessary.
Phew! I thought I was going crazy. I remember my VHS copy had Jabba subtitles, my favorite being, "this bounty hunter is my kind of scum. Fearless and inventive."
You said that the Ewoks blinking is a blink and you’ll miss it moment, I literally blinked and missed it when you played the comparison
Yoda could teleport through the Force. He probably had formed a diad with Dagobah, like Rey and Kylo Ren.
I am so glad I have VHS tapes of the original 3 movies, no added bullshit
10 more reasons why meddling with movies that were already successful is such a terrible idea.
I actually liked Hayden Christensen's force ghost cameo. Every time I saw him come back, smiling and happy- it always wrenched something in my heart to see him like that.
Me too, Hayden or Anakin seemed so tortured mentally & spiritually throughout the series..good to see him whole again & not broken as in ROTS
The little crazy CGI guy in Jabba's den during nap time is AGAINST the plot assumption that this was a chosen time to strike based on EVERYONE being asleep.
As suggested by the toilet sound joke, there are various reasons that not everyone would be asleep even if everyone was supposed to. Plus, why would literally everyone in a palace (let alone a semi-militarized fortress as Jabba's palace seems to be) be asleep at the same time? There would always be servants baking things at 2am if we're basing assumptions on Earth. Servants would be doing other various things all night. Guards would hopefully be be awake in guard posts and patrolling, regardless of the time.
Did they ever imply it was anything other than night time, or the sleeping time in whatever sort of schedule Jabba and his minions kept? Idk if the people Jabba surrounded himself with on Tatooine were semi-nocturnal because of the tendency to commit crime after dark, or what.
@@humaj19 It's not that life on Tattooine couldn't have had people awake, it's that original ROTJ played the scene perfectly... everyone WAS asleep and when the sleeping seemed established, Leia makes her suspenseful move to free her true love from carbonite. The suspense was that SOMEONE MIGHT WAKE UP.
Maybe you're a millennial and don't realize that FICTIONAL limited scenes with somewhat unrealistic dramatic elements is WHAT VIEWERS WANT, not overly fussy or realistic meta moments. The films today forget the importance of ESCAPISM and are too self conscious, just like Lucas' millenialesque edits to a great original trilogy.