More POWER and FLIGHTTIME for your Betafpv 75Pro Whoop | ButterflyFPV Edition of the Betafpv 75 Pro
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Hello my whoop friends. In this video I show you how you can make the betafpv 75 Pro more powerful and more efficient! Tuning for your Betafpv 75 Pro Whoop. Keep in mind this is just my opinion as a race pilot for over three years (and over 10 years of 3D rc-helicopter and rc-airplane flying) and you have to do your own experiences. But I think my experiences can help you move forward faster. I would be very happy to receive feedback from you in the comments!
The first and easiest tuning option in my opinion is to use good lipos with your Betafpv 75 Pro whoop. For example Betafpv Lava 1S HV 550mah 75C, Betafpv Lava 1S HV 450mah 75C, GNB 1S HV 550mah 100C, GNB 1S HV 530mah 90C, GNB 1S HV 380mah 90C.
The second best option in my opinion is to solder an AWG20 main cable to the flight controller. (especially from a race pilot's perspective)
The third best option is to remove the motor connectors and solder the motor cables directly to the flight controller (but this is only possible when all the electronics are installed in the frame) (especially from a race pilot's perspective)
The fourth best option is to do some weight reduction on the frame and canopy.
The fifth best option is to use the pid tune from uav tech • Making Whoops FLY BETT...
Furthermore, it is also important to install Bluejay 96khz firmware on the ESCs and as far as I know I have set the motor timing to low.
And lastly, you can also experiment with other propellers like the betafpv 45mm prop (unfortunately I haven't found a low pitch prop in the 45mm size yet).
I hope this video could inspire you to make your betafpv 75Pro whoop even better than it already is.
But I also want to make it very clear that you don't have to make these modifications if you are already satisfied with your whoop. The betafpv 75 pro is already a good whoop out of the box and doesn't necessarily require tuning.
But if you need more power or more flight time and are willing to invest some time patience and passionate work then I can recommend this modifications a lot.
Happy whoopin! Whoop whoop! :-)
0:00 Intro in to this video
0:31 Weight of this whoop
0:54 Important message!
1:25 First modification: AWG20 Main Cable and BT2.0 Plug
2:24 Second modification: No more motor plugs
3:38 Third modification: Weight reduction
5:17 Fourth modification: Different 45mm propeller from betafpv
5:50 Fifth modification: You should always use high perfomance lipos!
6:36 WARNING! Your ESC`s are not save with 550mah lipos!
7:12 Software tuning
7:54 Outro for the first part of this video
8:20 Intro for the dvr footage
8:58 Indoor racetrack
9:40 Slalom
10:09 Endurance test indoor
11:05 Some 65mm (16g dry) footage for comparison
11:54 Outdoor playground flight with Stock Betafpv 550mah 40C Lipo
14:04 Outdoor playground flight with Betafpv Lava 550mah 75C Lipo
17:29 Outdoor playground flight with Betafpv Lava 550mah 75C Lipo
20:44 Outdoor big full send flight with Betafpv Lava 550mah 75C Lipo
23:05 Outdoor big full send flight with Betafpv Lava 450mah 75C Lipo
23:59 Punch out test with Betafpv Lava 450mah 75C Lipo
24:24 Powerlooping with Betafpv Lava 550mah 75C Lipo
Maybe I forgot something in this video. This can be true because I have to think about so many things. If so, I will add it here in the video description. And of course answer your questions in the comments.
I wish you happy flying my whoop friends! Whoop on! Whoop is the way! Whoop whooooop!🥳
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Impressive results!
Mate great tips. Look forward to doing the lead change. I also need to really get my hand drill out on that frame/canopy. Good info as always!!
🤜🤛Yes, AWG20 main cable is a must for race pilots!
love your content hope ill get as good as you :)
Thank you! For sure! Practice every day is the way.. Six Lipos a day is a good start.. 🙂
Good stuff nice to hear you!
Thank you buddy!🤜🤛 I hope you can test out some of these modifications (especially the AWG20 main cable) and then pass on the knowledge to your subscribers.
@@butterflyfpv Join me for a podcast Id love to hang out with you for an hour or so and talk about drones and your findings!
@@TorontoFPV It`s a nice idea but my english is way to bad for this.😕 I even struggle to do these videos.. There is no way I can converse with someone in english in real time. What makes it even more difficult is that I can no longer learn a new language because of my neurological disease. Sometimes I don't even know the words of my native language anymore. That's why it's almost impossible to make a podcast. Maybe with someone who could translate... But I don't know anyone at the moment..
@@butterflyfpv That's ok man. if it was just like hanging out and trying slow would that be possible? Id go easy on you i promise. If you can't it's all good but I'd like to introduce more ppl to you!
@@TorontoFPV Yes, I think if it is possible then we should start very slowly. Maybe not even with the aim of a podcast. And I think in the future when I'm done testing and there's nothing left to test and I've made the world's most powerful whoop (with handwound motors). Because at the moment I still have a lot to do with learning how to rewind motors.. But I'm looking forward to the future where there might even be a podcast with you.. let's see what the future holds..
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what is your rates setup? Im looking for something in the middle of freestyle and Racing. I am also looking at getting higher KV motors and maybe a new camera any recommendations?
My Rates are: Betaflight RC Rate 1.20 | Rate 0.70 | RC Expo 0.00 | 800 degrees on all axes. You can see them here in the pictures at the end of this video: ruclips.net/video/2wCopw5o4Co/видео.html Throttle cut depends on the kv of the motors. If the kv is very high like on my 80mm 2S 1102 18000kV build the you can go to Throttle cut scale 60% if needed.. I can recommend this Cam for a good picture in most situations: ruclips.net/video/0gtVZ4s5iB0/видео.html
Good Stuff 👍 I found the carbon fiber ring protector/mounts from the motor wire at the base of the motors is often misaligned and not seated properly which can increase motor sound. First time I have seen these and thinking it might be good to remove them for weight. You think they help performance in some way?
Thank you! Interessting! It will be difficult to remove these carbon rings without rewinding the motor. And no, these PCB rings are not for the performance of the engine. But so that it's easier to solder on new motor cables if a motor cable breaks off. That's why these PCB rings are a good thing in principle.
Could you try Cetus Pro, and fly 2S, if failed it would be great video, if it work it could be benefit on my flight.
Please make the video ?
I do not have de Cetus Pro. And I have no money left to buy it. Maybe you can ask Betafpv to send me one? If betafpv would work with me it would help a lot.. But unfortunately they don't care. I need help from you, from the community. If a lot of people ask betafpv, then maybe they will consider working with me..
@@butterflyfpv yea, why they dont care right.
@@junkthe Yes.. They probably already have enough pilots...
Did you try the new hq 45mm props ? DFR has them in stock.
I just put the 45mmx2 on, but havent tested enough.
Not yet. Thank you for the tip! www.drone-fpv-racer.com/en/micro-45mmx3-pc-propellers-15mm-2cw2ccw-by-hqprop-12841.html
Amazing huge job done and explained!
About 1st modification- isn't itAWG22 originally and does it make that big of a difference?
Could you please explain more in details why those 550mah batteries are bad to use?
Where could I got the good/right pids/rates/expos/cuts?
And most important... is this Meteor75pro is best drone for 1st one to start practice fpv/acro or you can suggest some other drone to pick?
Thank you for your feedback! Yes original is AWG22. And I changed it to AWG20 cable (The smaller the AWG Number, the bigger the cable) and YES the difference is very big! This is also why it`s not FULL SEND bulletproof anymore with the 550mah lipos and the 5A ESC`s on FULL SEND flights (outdoors with a lot of 100% Throttle, especially in turns). I can feel the ESC`s struggling. I mean it flies, but the question is for how long. I'm 100% sure that an ESC will burn out at some point. I know that from experience! That's why I warned about it in the video. But this really only applies to full send pilots. If you fly with little to no 100% throttle I'm pretty sure it won't be a problem with the 550mah lipos. Indoor racing should also still be possible. You can take the PIDs directly from uavtech. The link is in the video description. And everyone has to figure out the rates etc. for themselves. There are many videos about this on RUclips. I might also make videos about it at some point. But I have little time and a lot to do. But maybe someday I can do it... My plan is that I want to create the best strongest whoop in the world first. And when I've gotten the most out of it and there's nothing left to learn, I'll make more beginner-oriented videos. But first I would like to make performance-oriented videos. I hope you can understand me..
YES Meteor75pro is a very very good (if not the best) to start practice!
@@butterflyfpv Thank you! Will need to buy awg20 cables and change it. Is it same for Meteor65pro(I already have this one).
Didn't get the part about 450 and 550 batteries... what is the point and difference(why one is bad and the other is ok for the ESCs - will it be still a problem if i upgrade the cables?)(also what flight time you have with either?)
@@Braincho No I`m not sure with Meteor65pro since it is low kv. But you can give it a try and give me feedback. Regarding the Lipos: With the AWG20 cable plus 550mah Lipo you can pull more amps because lipos with higher capacity and bigger cables do have less internal resistance. So if you go full send with a lot of throttle then there may be larger amp spikes. And because the esc on the 75pro is already tight, it may be that it is too much for the ESC.. It can. It doesn't have to. So if you don't fly at 100% throttle all the time then you can fly with 550mah lipos without any problems. But with the 450s the whoop feels lighter due to the lower disc load and is more maneuverable..
@@butterflyfpv Cool. So better overall to use 450mAh.(you use 450 mostly?) Also how many packs you fly daily to have a good practice?
@@Braincho Yes for me 450mah. (gnb 530mah are also 450mah size and weight). You can start with 4 packs per day. Thats a good start. And if you can do 6 packs its even better. and with 10-12 packs per day you can see relatively fast improvements..
Between the 75 and 75pro, which one do you prefer? And which one has better flight time or is the difference insignificant? I want to fly indoors and I would like to have the best flight time and performance
You mean Betafpv meteor 75 vs meteor 75pro? Then I prefer the 75pro because of the better performance.. and the flighttime is also very good.. I'm not sure if the flighttime is better than the meteor75 because I've never flew it. But when hovering or cruising slowly, the 75pro probably has about 1-2 minutes more flight time..
@@butterflyfpv Thank you, I'm going to buy the pro frame, I'm not going to fly very fast and I intend to use 1s, I think the bigger propellers will help with flight time
@@rianlira4111 Yes I think the 75pro is very good. And on some days you maybe want to go fly outdoors too. And the 75pro is very good for outdoors.
@@butterflyfpv Another question, do you think the 1002 engines can handle the propellers and larger frame? I saw that the Pro uses 1102 engines and I didn't want to buy bigger engines
@@rianlira4111 1102 size motors are perfect for 45mm three bladed props for racing. Rcinpower 1002 22000kV can handle 45mm two bladed props. But I prefer 1102 size motors for racing. Not bigger and not smaller..
u use uav tech preset bro ?,next tips trick rewind motor bro
Yes uav tech preset. I hope so😀 but not on this whoop because of the 5A ESC. I think on the the 75 pro whoop I would first change the motor cables to AWG28..
i call it swiss cheese :D
😂👌 Betafpv Meteor75Pro Swiss Cheese Edition😁
@@butterflyfpv Yep 😂
Yeah, but how do I make my drone slower? You can be humble as you want but nothing bad could be said about your flying other than Youre going way too fast and my brain cant keep up
😂 I didn't expect this comment. made my day👍🤜🤛 I understand you 100%! I was on this point too three or four years ago.. If you are serious about a slower more controlable drone then I can say in short: Less camera angle and Throttle Expo/Throttle MID/Throttle cut scale to tame the throttle..
Keep this channel in English. Please
I try! Maybe a mix..