This government is expecting $30million funding cuts for social services contracted to Oranga Tamariki. That's part of why they are taking so long. How cutting community services will help children is beyond me. We do parenting programmes as part of our mahi.
Give back the kids that have been taking for pathetic reasons, like mums who thought OT were there to help when mum needed a break, or from parents that were homeless, or from mums who were beaten by a partner and OT just came in and stole the kids, or give back the kids that were taken from mums that failed a drug test that was just marijuana. And so many more.
Teen parent units work and strives to keep the baby with the mother/parents as well as providing parenting skills, schooling, counselling, rehabilitation, driving skills, childcare, life and work skills. The number of positive interactions with the wider community for these young teens from teachers, to service providers, employers, building a network beyond their immediate family and situation. This provides hope and opportunity. This is also the solution to solve our labour shortage rather than opening up immigration as the be all and end all. We have a lot of talent and creativity waiting to blossom. This money is well worth it as the outcomes for the children are not only positive but society as a whole benefit down the track. What a loss.
16:25 it really dosen't matter when someone wants to be a care giver they can just use their maiden name or married name, which ever doesn't have the criminal record. That's what happened with my son.
You didn’t listen to the interview at all did you? It was said over and over again, since OT inception it’s been fraught with issues. This stems entirely from the minister in charge, Kelvin Davis and the people he appointed.
@@tommym6515 Only a fool would just listen to what was said - I know the entire history of Oranga Tamariki - I used to work for them when they were CYF.. if anyone believes that OT was "stood up" under Labour - they have zero clues. OT was rebranded only - nothing changed about the system and therefore the broken system was brought forward int OT. The foundation was the same - the structure was the same - this is why the report in abuse in State Care is so important - because this is about STATE Care - not care in OT only.
@@tommym6515 Which is when you GO TO THE SOURCE! Look up the information, it's all there! Hekia Parata had to go to court because NATIONAL GOT GIRLS RAPED. 1 in 3 kids were abused in state care under Key's government, the last national government. Thanks to Arderns reforms that number was cut to 1 in 10. More than a 300% improvement. Then listen to the interview, LIKE YOU SAID. They literally say it on the interview, they can't deliver if the "new" National OT fires them.
What do you mean? Labour?? The GOVERNMENT as a WHOLE has mismanaged OT. Here's the problem, the state is run by humans.. the care of the children, in state care, are run by humans. This isn't about "who" is in government - this is about the service.. period. Stop politicing - this is NOT helpful.
They didn't. They actually counted them when National refused to for a decade. Labour found out bad the situation was, which lead to the blow out for emergency housing since National wouldn't let anyone on the then HNZ waitlist for 8 years. Pointing out a problem doesn't mean you created it. Just a cursory look at when things got bad would've shown you it was under the Key government that things were the worst. Hekia Parata had to be taken to court because National's choices put a whole bunch of mentally slow girls in danger to the point where they ALL got raped. Then there's the OT report showing how disgustingly dangerous it was under his government. 1 in 3 kids in state care were abused under his watch. Since ardern? It's 1 in 10. If you don't know what you're talking about, best to be quiet than prove that fact.
Unfortunately there would of been more whanau care abuse than state care cases, Incest was rampant in Polynesian families back in the day especially in Maori whanau's. Father's, Uncles, Aunty's and others were molesting other whanau member's and it was swept under the carpet and encouraged not to be talked about. The amount of story's told to me from victims of this abuse is unbelievable, some even resulting in pregnancy's. The victims of the abuse that I know of are in their 40s right up into their 70s and all say it was whanau member's not state care or Pakeha.
Let us hope their stories are heard and they are brave enough to speak up. Here is hoping the abuse by state and faith is at least dealt with because there are the many children who were not sexually abused at home, to be abused in care. That's the real tragedy, from the frying pan into the fire. Sadly even though that report is to 1999, its still going on in state care, 2024! Arohamai our whanau
Oranga tamariki a government department? Put out tenders for organizations to apply? Many were iwi based applicants for those contracts, some in some out. Funding became an issue, individual contracts and cutting ties from iwi authorities so the maori health authoritie is now gone. Making decision making impossible.
YES they are at risk...so many predators take up roles where vulnerable children are....wouldn't it be best to work with families to a point where they will be safe where possible.
you can also thank the National government for taking funding from important supports in OT and in areas of disability as well. Don't trust a government that doesn't help support the most vulnerable.
How? It would've stopped them from cutting some of these programs and stopped them for firing OT frontline staff if it was pointed out that leaving kids, even Maori ones, vulnerable is against the treaty.
@tanepukenga1421 Great that the interests of maori aligned with the interests of all New Zealanders in this case... won't always be the case. Why not just focus on the good of all
@@overover.. Are you under the impression that the treaty EXCLULDES non-maori kids from OT programs? Because that's not the case - this harmed ALL kids in danger. Provisions that they're trying to repeal which were only enacted through the treaty obligations. Remember the state of things before they started to be upheld? 1 in 3 kids in state care were either sexually or physically abused. Going back before those obligations made people take action isn't helping anyone. I'm not sure it could, but taking it away certainly harms
@@overover.. Because it's in it... It's literally written in the document not to be mistreated, or for the governing body to not allow mistreatment by negligence or a known act. It pays to actually know your historical documents instead of listening to whatever Bob-at-the-pub said about them. Listening to Bob is how those cooker idiots think the magna carta lets them do whatever they want.
Put the Putea into the community to support the whanau to be better parents. Along with there being awhi for the tamariki to support them through their kura and to korero their trauma already suffered. Kids want their parents as bad as they may be..Fact! So, put the support where needed into the whanau to be better and the tamariki to have a better life.
This new government has to sort out the huge mess left by the Labour regime. Of course miss woke Aotearoa wouldn't like "Boot camps" , the very name is false and harks back to a different time and a disingenuous comparison.
Stop swallowing the propaganda and actually look into it for yourself, cause you sound ignorant right now. Under Key's National government, 1 in 3 kids were abused in state care. Cause of Arderns reforms, it was cut to 1 in 10. And the reason why the literal experts don't like the policy is because IT HAS NEVER WORKED IN THOUSANDS OF YEARS
This government is expecting $30million funding cuts for social services contracted to Oranga Tamariki. That's part of why they are taking so long. How cutting community services will help children is beyond me. We do parenting programmes as part of our mahi.
Give back the kids that have been taking for pathetic reasons, like mums who thought OT were there to help when mum needed a break, or from parents that were homeless, or from mums who were beaten by a partner and OT just came in and stole the kids, or give back the kids that were taken from mums that failed a drug test that was just marijuana. And so many more.
I think it's criminal against the people
I love John Campbell but I feel like he needed to push a bit more on the amount of abuse happening in faith based care.
Teen parent units work and strives to keep the baby with the mother/parents as well as providing parenting skills, schooling, counselling, rehabilitation, driving skills, childcare, life and work skills. The number of positive interactions with the wider community for these young teens from teachers, to service providers, employers, building a network beyond their immediate family and situation. This provides hope and opportunity. This is also the solution to solve our labour shortage rather than opening up immigration as the be all and end all. We have a lot of talent and creativity waiting to blossom. This money is well worth it as the outcomes for the children are not only positive but society as a whole benefit down the track. What a loss.
Not a mention of focussing on good parenting.
Good point. It takes money and occupation away from them if good parenting occurs, quite obviously.
16:25 it really dosen't matter when someone wants to be a care giver they can just use their maiden name or married name, which ever doesn't have the criminal record. That's what happened with my son.
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And now it'll happen more that the back office workers who would be DOING those background checks are now jobless
Kelvin Davis must be brought forward to explain how and why he set up and oversaw such a woeful ministry.
These issues are because of the NEW government. It was the NEW government that slashed the funding - NOT the previous one.
You didn’t listen to the interview at all did you?
It was said over and over again, since OT inception it’s been fraught with issues. This stems entirely from the minister in charge, Kelvin Davis and the people he appointed.
@@tommym6515 Only a fool would just listen to what was said - I know the entire history of Oranga Tamariki - I used to work for them when they were CYF.. if anyone believes that OT was "stood up" under Labour - they have zero clues. OT was rebranded only - nothing changed about the system and therefore the broken system was brought forward int OT. The foundation was the same - the structure was the same - this is why the report in abuse in State Care is so important - because this is about STATE Care - not care in OT only.
@@tommym6515 Which is when you GO TO THE SOURCE!
Look up the information, it's all there! Hekia Parata had to go to court because NATIONAL GOT GIRLS RAPED. 1 in 3 kids were abused in state care under Key's government, the last national government. Thanks to Arderns reforms that number was cut to 1 in 10. More than a 300% improvement.
Then listen to the interview, LIKE YOU SAID. They literally say it on the interview, they can't deliver if the "new" National OT fires them.
How severely the Labour govt has let the children of Nrw Zealand down in its utter mismanagement of OT!!!
What do you mean? Labour?? The GOVERNMENT as a WHOLE has mismanaged OT. Here's the problem, the state is run by humans.. the care of the children, in state care, are run by humans. This isn't about "who" is in government - this is about the service.. period. Stop politicing - this is NOT helpful.
It is National letting them down not Labour.
The National government is cutting there funding by 30 million nothing to do with Labour.
This has been since John Key you should read more about it before you play the blaming game
They didn't. They actually counted them when National refused to for a decade. Labour found out bad the situation was, which lead to the blow out for emergency housing since National wouldn't let anyone on the then HNZ waitlist for 8 years. Pointing out a problem doesn't mean you created it.
Just a cursory look at when things got bad would've shown you it was under the Key government that things were the worst. Hekia Parata had to be taken to court because National's choices put a whole bunch of mentally slow girls in danger to the point where they ALL got raped. Then there's the OT report showing how disgustingly dangerous it was under his government. 1 in 3 kids in state care were abused under his watch.
Since ardern?
It's 1 in 10.
If you don't know what you're talking about, best to be quiet than prove that fact.
Unfortunately there would of been more whanau care abuse than state care cases, Incest was rampant in Polynesian families back in the day especially in Maori whanau's. Father's, Uncles, Aunty's and others were molesting other whanau member's and it was swept under the carpet and encouraged not to be talked about. The amount of story's told to me from victims of this abuse is unbelievable, some even resulting in pregnancy's. The victims of the abuse that I know of are in their 40s right up into their 70s and all say it was whanau member's not state care or Pakeha.
Let us hope their stories are heard and they are brave enough to speak up. Here is hoping the abuse by state and faith is at least dealt with because there are the many children who were not sexually abused at home, to be abused in care. That's the real tragedy, from the frying pan into the fire. Sadly even though that report is to 1999, its still going on in state care, 2024! Arohamai our whanau
The school teacher pedos weren't Maori.
Brilliant conversation.
Oranga tamariki a government department? Put out tenders for organizations to apply? Many were iwi based applicants for those contracts, some in some out. Funding became an issue, individual contracts and cutting ties from iwi authorities so the maori health authoritie is now gone. Making decision making impossible.
We have the worse government ever in this country.
YES they are at risk...so many predators take up roles where vulnerable children are....wouldn't it be best to work with families to a point where they will be safe where possible.
you can also thank the National government for taking funding from important supports in OT and in areas of disability as well. Don't trust a government that doesn't help support the most vulnerable.
Less treaty distraction might help
How? It would've stopped them from cutting some of these programs and stopped them for firing OT frontline staff if it was pointed out that leaving kids, even Maori ones, vulnerable is against the treaty.
@tanepukenga1421 Great that the interests of maori aligned with the interests of all New Zealanders in this case... won't always be the case. Why not just focus on the good of all
@@overover.. Are you under the impression that the treaty EXCLULDES non-maori kids from OT programs? Because that's not the case - this harmed ALL kids in danger. Provisions that they're trying to repeal which were only enacted through the treaty obligations. Remember the state of things before they started to be upheld?
1 in 3 kids in state care were either sexually or physically abused. Going back before those obligations made people take action isn't helping anyone. I'm not sure it could, but taking it away certainly harms
@tanepukenga1421 why does good policy have to be about an obligation to maori? It turns you from a once proud people into victims
@@overover.. Because it's in it...
It's literally written in the document not to be mistreated, or for the governing body to not allow mistreatment by negligence or a known act.
It pays to actually know your historical documents instead of listening to whatever Bob-at-the-pub said about them. Listening to Bob is how those cooker idiots think the magna carta lets them do whatever they want.
Put the Putea into the community to support the whanau to be better parents. Along with there being awhi for the tamariki to support them through their kura and to korero their trauma already suffered. Kids want their parents as bad as they may be..Fact! So, put the support where needed into the whanau to be better and the tamariki to have a better life.
OT just need to follow the law and not think and act above it. The laws in place have come from years and years and years of best process.
No
500 million men, all relying on 1 man to solve their problems hahaaahaaa #men💋
This child problem has been going on for years even before i was born.im 62.so called exsperts
6:03 I bet OT don't even know where half the kids in care are.
This new government has to sort out the huge mess left by the Labour regime. Of course miss woke Aotearoa wouldn't like "Boot camps" , the very name is false and harks back to a different time and a disingenuous comparison.
Stop swallowing the propaganda and actually look into it for yourself, cause you sound ignorant right now.
Under Key's National government, 1 in 3 kids were abused in state care. Cause of Arderns reforms, it was cut to 1 in 10. And the reason why the literal experts don't like the policy is because IT HAS NEVER WORKED IN THOUSANDS OF YEARS
So far the outcome has been all negative. I see tyranny animal abusers always abuse children