German Armor VS Italian Armor - Kingdom Come Deliverance
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2021
- Early plate in Italy, and elsewhere in the 13th-15th century were made of iron. Iron armor could be carburised or case hardened to give a surface of harder steel. Plate armor became cheaper than mail by the 15th century as it required less labor and labor had become much more expensive after the Black Death, though it did require larger furnaces to produce larger blooms. Mail continued to be used to protect those joints which could not be adequately protected by plate, such as the armpit, crook of the elbow and groin. Another advantage of plate was that a lance rest could be fitted to the breast plate.
The small skull cap evolved into a bigger true helmet, the bascinet, as it was lengthened downward to protect the back of the neck and the sides of the head. Additionally, several new forms of fully enclosed helmets were introduced in the late 1300s.
Probably the most recognized style of armor in the World became the plate armor associated with the knights of the European Late Middle Ages, but continuing to the early 17th century Age of Enlightenment in all European countries.
By about 1400 the full harness of plate armor had been developed in armories of Lombardy. Heavy cavalry dominated the battlefield for centuries in part because of their armor.
#KingdomComeDeliverance is a 2018 action role-playing video game developed by #WarhorseStudios and published by #DeepSilver for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. It is set in the medieval Kingdom of Bohemia, an Imperial State of the Holy Roman Empire, with a focus on historically accurate content.
The story takes place during a war in Bohemia in 1403. On the orders of Hungarian king Sigismund, Cuman mercenaries raid the mining village of Skalitz, a major source of silver. One of the survivors of the resulting massacre is Henry, the son of a blacksmith. Destitute and vengeful, Henry joins the service of Lord Radzig Kobyla, who leads a resistance movement against Sigismund's invasion. As Henry pursues justice for his murdered family, he becomes involved in an effort to restore Bohemia's rightful king and Sigismund's half-brother, Wenceslaus IV, to the throne. The game features branching quest lines, an open world environment, and period-accurate weapons, clothing, combat techniques, and architecture (recreated with the assistance of architects and historians), which encourages immersive gameplay.
The game received generally positive reviews and a number of Game of the Year awards. Critics praised the story, attention to detail, and focus on realism, while criticism was aimed at technical bugs. 
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me a simple italian who knows nothing about medieval armors when i saw “milanese”: so anyway i started roleplaying
Just like in the AUTOMOTIVE industry we can sum these two kinds like this:
Italian: excellent design, incredibly quirky, might have reliability issues. +10 CHARISMA
German: overengineered, costs an arm and a leg to fix, looks wacky and intimidating. +10 STRONK
Seriously though, I would love a KCD2 set in a later period with Gothic armor and Sallets.
I would also love that, as well as more color options, because during this period, people were pretty flamboyent with their armor if they could afford it.
I'd say it's the opposite XD Brigandine Cuirasses are the most expensive to fix things in the game.
The Milanese set in general is really expensive to fix.
Awesome. 2 armor guides in one. Great work on this one.
Glad you like them!
The warhammer was super popular throughout Europe as soon as plate armor was more fully developed in the mid 14th century. The mace was great against mail as all it had to do was impact and deliver blunt damage but with the advances of plate armor its effect was far less than it had against mail. The warhammer became so popular because it had the ability to deliver blunt damage with the flat (usually spiked) end and then an armor piercing spike on the back. Later, many warhammers would also have spikes on the top and a very popular version of warhammers were actually just the spiked part.
Could you make an armor that could someone in Henry's postion actually afford and wear? I'd imagine it would be something not too fancy but also not something only a peasant would wear.
Have you finished the main story?
@@WormsAreEverywhere
Haha, well, he has a point in any case!
Our Henry in the game comes by extremely sophisticated and expensive equipment, way before he's enabled through the circumstances of the story.
If you go through the game organically as intended, his quality of obtained armor naturally improves over time. Even the cutscenes seem to Acknowledge this to some degree. He gets the Bascinet and Gambeson in Rattay to do his guard duties. Then when you rescue Hans, you can take a set of chainmail, gloves, bracers and a pair of padded chausses from the Cumans iirc. From there, the amount of equipment Henry loots and wears or sells to buy better kit creates a snowballing effect until Henry is canonically wearing a full blown knightly set of expensive armor for the final battle. However, being the complete psychopath min-maxing gamer I am, I butcher everyone in Skalitz during the Prologue and end up head to toe in the finest gambeson and chainmail money can buy. I think someone in Skalitz has couters with Jack Chains too iirc
I always wished the game had more armor like the zoul armor. I prefer the heraldry to be right on the armor, instead of needing a waffenrock.
Well, historically speaking, many knights and nobles would wear enammeled plate where their crest, or colours would be right on the plate. THis both showed off their heraldry and protected their armor from rusting, so it served a dual purpose. I hope that we will see more of this in the next game.
Hopefully the next game allows some armor customization.
Take it to an armorer, have the cuirass enameled and decorated with your chosen heraldry. Which would also boost your reputation gain with that heraldry's faction, but also increase reputation loss if caught doing crime or unfavorable acts.
Gotta love the Dark Milanese brigandine, goes well with Magdeburg pauldrons and greaves and Zoul helmet.
I use the zoul helmet for every arnour set because it's the only realistic bascinet in the game
I use the Zoul helmet for a lot of different builds, it is easily one of my top 3 helmets in the game, it replaced the hounskull for me when it was added.
@@Dare_To_Game me too, it looks way nicer I think.
My fieldwork kit is Dark Milanese with Magdeburg pauldrons/legs and Bell-shaped kettle helmet which is good for recon, archery and skirmishes. I use mail under it for fights and take it down for sneaking around enemy camps. You can get it pretty silent/hard to see.
I also keep a fancy armor with full helm on my horse. Warhorse helmet is also of an interesting look, albeit a little different from everything else with scales around neck.
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I stupidly lost the login password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me!
I love the Nuremberg cuirass. I use it in most plate builds.
Same it’s the most detailed in my opinion
I am also a big fan. Whenever im going for a really fancy plate suit, its my first stop.
I actually really like the German Bassinet as well. Despite having utilized most of the helmets in this game at one point or another, that one I use the most.
Right?!?! It is just so cool looking.
@@Dare_To_Game i agree!
@@OperatorMax1993 It has personality
@@FlyingNova223 indeed, alot of personality
along with the face shields
Maaan, i just love those vids. Great content!
Glad you like them!
Yep, "Morgenstern" means morning star and Bavaria is one of the 16 german federal states that make up Germany (probably the most famous one).
I'm pretty sure Bavaria is the region with most of the historical armorer's towns. I am pretty sure both Augsburg and Nuernbug are located there.
@@Dare_To_Game I just mentioned Bavaria since in your video you weren't sure if it's a town or region. :)
@@Dare_To_Game You are right.
saxony is pretty famous too, but only because it was where the saxons came from that region of germany.
Keep up the good work I just got kingdom come deliverance a few weeks ago as a father of four it took me awhile to by my self a system that could run this game and it's nice having current content thank you
Glad you like it. As a father of three, i understand that not everyone plays every game at release. Plus this game rules, and should be played all the time.
Why would someone Downvote a Video like this?
Some people are just born negative I Suppose.
Hard to say. It happens though.
It was Cumans.
nice vid man keep it up
Thanks, will do!
I have some questions(I guess) Where did you find Heraldic neckchain and red-white miparti hose? Also, you could've done two sets of german armor, because there are Magdeburg chauses/pauldrons/cuirass.
PS: If you do another video, add Saint George sword, because german knights were christians, and you know.... :D
I think for the German knight a black or yellow cloth would have expanded the kit, great video 👌🏻
( the shield was perfect, coat of arms like these can be found in Germany as well as Denmark and Sweden, Poland too i think, but not sure about Poland...)
I considered adding a hood or a waffenrock, but i wanted to leave the armor exposed to show the style.
@@Dare_To_Game ah ok
I just got this game so your vids are awesome because all the other videos are from 2 years ago.
Yeah, not many people still making videos about KCD.
is it the HD texture pack DLC that makes chainmail under plate not look muddy?
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
The houndskull was more likly the prefered bacinet in germany and a lot of other contry like poland france and england and it's the best bacinet cuz many of the wepons slipped over the beak there is a lot of version of this bacinet.and a lot of of the medival armour was from german origin like the klappvisor.
Fun fact: the german called this bacinet hundskull wich mean dogmouth the french called it bec de passeraux wich means the beak of the bird and the english called it pig face i forget wath the polls called it but anyway
Please how to vengeance and back sword sir Radzig?please!
Currently, there is no way to do so in the story, that will presumably be the plot of Warhorse Studios' next game. I had to use console commands to get it.
I spend WAY too much time looking at the inventory pages. If there was a way to keep track of how many hours in game are spent looking at it , it would be embarrassing
Armor guide suggestion
Teutonic knight ( I think there is a white coat in the game )
Armor would be the Nürnberg set with the houndscull
Could be interesting.
What would be cool is a templars gear. Like if there was this one quest that you help this old guy get ri d of past grievances (basically a lot of bandits) and he gives you worn Templar knight armor from his dad or something. It wouldn’t even be top 10 best until you repair it and it’s one of the most expensive repairs. “Its no worth it?” Well you get a cool and powerful armor.
That would be a cool detail/side quest. I hope that in Warhorse's next title, they try more outside the box stuff like that.
The segmented part below the breastplate is called the fauld.
Yeah, the distinctive Gothic armor look would start appearing about 15 or 20 years later than the game's setting of 1403 and reach its height around 40 years later. Then Maximilian armor evolved from that. It seems the stylistic choices for armor in German, Italian and English taste standardized in about 1440-1450. Personally, I prefer English and Italian armors because they generally have a more tanky build for foot combat. Classic Gothic armor is definitely a horseman's armor.
"Would that protect the soldiers wearing German 🇩🇪 Gothic plate 🍽 armor and chainmail ⛓ or Northern Italian 🇮🇹 Milanese plate 🍽 armor and chainmail ⛓ from the lead metal balls ⚽ fired 🔥 from the matchlock muskets of the Muslim, 🕌 Ottoman ☪ Turkish 🇹🇷 Janissaries, led by the Sultan Mehmed the 2nd, the conqueror of Constantinople, during the Ottoman 🇹🇷 Hungarian 🇭🇺 wars 💥 of the year of fourteen hundred sixty-two."
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This Milanese brigandine is also called a corazzina
Maybe I'm dumb, but wouldn't Longinus carry a short sword, since Roman's typically carried short swords?
2 different time periods
It is called Longinus sword not because it would be the sword of Longinus, but because it's point is sharp, very sharp, as sharp as the spear that pierced Christ's side, which was pierced by Longinus, a roman centurion.
Its just a reference, its not actually supposed to be the sword he carried.
Rychvald is a czech town in Silesia, the crest is silesian. So a little bit further away from Germany :D
Жозеф is Joseph, just using Cyrillic alphabet
Ah...Cyrillics...i see.
Brought the game on ps4 last month, 1.5 days playtime inn and I have the house of zhoul armor set and yet to find the mean bandit army
I'm so op
Oh shit! Well XD
Very nice
Thanks
The commentor's name is Zhozef. Sounds like Josef 😂 Жозеф, Иосеф
Translation for German stuff+ pronunciations and history.
Morgenstern: Morning Star. Pronounced as Mor-gen (hard G) sh-taern.
Bavaria or Bayern as we call it is a Freistaat within Germany. It was a Kingdom for a long time, even up into 1918. It used to have all of Austria incorporated which is why Bavarians and Austrians are very similar people. The Bavaria today did conquer some Frankish territory which is why it has a region called Franconia within it.
I love my red brigandine and my Bavarian gambeson
I prefer the German armor. Plus the Nurembergian chestplate is pretty rare..I think there is like 3 of them that you can get in the game and you can't buy it. Even though I prefer the look of the Magdeburg or Augsburg plate armor. I switch off between the 2 and keep the Nurembergian Chestplate. I usually wear a jacket over for extra protection too. Just not a fan of the brigandine chest plates.
After the tournaments, i prefer to use the Lords of Leipa CHestplate, and then eventually the Zoul one, but earlier in the game, i use the kuttenburg cuirass most often.
@@Dare_To_Game riiight I forgot about Zoul's Yeah definitely that one. looks cool and it's best overall armor. I remember when I first saw that guy I was like...OH I hope I get to take his armor haha
@@Dare_To_Game i found mine on a dead bandit at like level 5 or 7
They can drop from high level bandits
A sallet would be anarchonistic for the early 15th century, I wish they were in the game too though.
2:16 Bavaria is a state in Germany
I do a mess of an armor salad in my characters
Ich wünschte, es gäbe mehr gotische Rüstungen
Ich wünschte auch, es gäbe gotische Rüstungen im Königreich, die befreit würden
@@Dare_To_Game protestantisch sein wie
Did you just say bavarian is a town in german^^
I said region or city. It was a slip of the tongue while recording. For some reason i doubted my statement of it being a region in the last second.
The name of that commenter was Joseph
the sad thing is is that the german bascinet gives mediocre protection. if it was better statwise i would definitely wear it more. fucking cuman helmets outclass it (cuman captains helmet specifically)
Wtf?
At some point you gotta go for style not protection, decorated German bascinet and Zoul armor is probably the best you can get
German here: The Saxon gambesons, Aachen and Augsburg armours are also German 🥸
YEET
YOTE
Milanese Brigandine,that's hella far off,you should've used the strip lethered Milensese Chest plate which is probebly the most common used Italian Plate armour
Is there an item called that?
I went back and forth, but in the end chose the Brigandine for two reasons. 1 It was very common in this time period, historically speaking, and 2. it had the best stats, so it represented the best choice for the suit from a gameplay perspective.
@@Dare_To_Game It was more common it the 100 years war and in anyhow go google an Italian white medival armour and You'll see it,the Brigandine might have a bit better stats,yet the Milenese is 2x more Historical and looks better in my opinion rather then all steel and brown
His name is Josef lol
Thanks.
i always think basinets look better for the most part
I certainly like them the most out of the options in the game. Overall, Armets are probably my favorite.
@@Dare_To_Game to each his own.
Are you sure you're pronouncing coif right
I swap back and forth between the two most common pronunciations. Sometimes i say it like "Kwaf" and other times i say it like "Coyf" neither is incorrect, but certain medieval scholars will swear it is one way or the other.
I want to say the "kwaf" way is French.
@@Dare_To_Game oh interesting didn't know that:)
@@Dare_To_Game
In British English only the French pronunciation is correct, in American both.
But chausses should always be pronounced French btw, it sounds a bit like 'shaws', not quite but almost.
Great stuff but there was no such place called Germany until AD 1871. Before that it was known as the Holy Roman Empire for 1000yrs ( AD800-AD1919. If you count from Otto der Große it's AD962-AD1919. Either way, to last a millennium proves that it absolutely worked ), ...what's that say about the Electors of Brandenburg's pathetic rule over half of the old Holy Empire? It Doesn't matter if they liked calling themselves Kings in Prussia or usurp the title of Kaiser when one already existed , to only last 47 years does NOT make an Empire. Lmao
It was the Holy Roman Empire of GERMAN NATION. Germans already knew they were German and identified as such.
it's all about the looks. So..... Italian all the way :]