Toontrack EZdrummer 3 played with drum-tec electronic drums & Roland TD-17
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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💥 Join us as we hook up Toontrack's EZ Drummer 3 drum software to a Roland TD-17 sound module & one of our beautiful drum-tec diabolo limited series electronic drumkits for some truly outstanding results 🥁🎧🤩
The kit setup in detail:
drum-tec diabolo limited kit (grey oyster)
18" bass drum
13" snare drum
8", 10", 12" (not used) toms
13" floor tom
drum-tec hardware
Roland TD-17 sound module
Roland VH-10 hihat controller
2x Roland CY-14C-T crashes
Roland CY-16R-T ride
Roland CY-5 cymbal
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Feel free to comment or ask any question you might have. You can also get in touch with our service team directly through experts@drum-tec.de
Video shot @ drum-tec West / Spytunes Recording Studio, Mainz.
Drumming & production by Ralf Schumacher, follow Ralf on @digitaldrumming
More info on WWW.RALFSCHUMACHER.EU
#ezdrummer3 #edrums #drumtec
Wow! Sounds so good! And the drummer never disappoints!
Thank you Guilhem! :)
I love how you push to the limit the sound module, the vst and the actual pads with your playstyle/technique ! from what I'm seeing drumtec pads and roland pads are amazing for capturing detailed drum playing !
Thank you very much! Yes the combination of drum-tec pads, Roland module/cymbals & Toontrack software has been my go-to setup in the studio for years already :) kind regards!
EzD3 is such a huge leap forward for drum samples. TT really nailed it this time. Even without an E-Kit the new bandmate and humanize features have completely changed my workflow for getting more realistic drum parts on my tracks. What a time to be alive. Killer playing! Thanks for doing this!
Thank you very much, agreed on all points! :)
shocked how good this library sounds that room epic
Loving Ezdrummer 3. Toontrack knocked it out of the park this time. Nice playing Ralf.
Yes I think so too :) thank you Hayden!
Wow! These are some of the best sounds I've ever heard!
Hey William, yes I also think EZD3 is a "milestone" in drum sample libraries. Kind regards!
That sounds incredible. Kit is beautiful especially, and the playing is top notch. Even watching this electric kit being played I still visualize a full acoustic kit just by how great everything sounds.
Thank you very much William! You can find some more drumming in this setup over here on my private channel digitaldrumming too if you like:
ruclips.net/video/4YimrssRQjo/видео.html
Kind regards!
4:08 I like that fill. It Sounds amazing!
Thank you Andres! :)
Ein Genuss, Sound und playability. Grossartig.
Dankeschön! :)
Awesome! Yeah EZD3 sounds awesome.....im excited forvsome metal Packs coming!
Duuuude! you guys didn't waste any time at all! Sounds great and your chops are unbelievable! I just downloaded the crossgrade and EZD3 yesterday. Can't wait to use with my DTX8.. Thanks for uploading.
Thank you Jon! :)
I installed EZDrummer 3 tonight. Got it working with my Roland TD17. So much to learn still though, but it seems like a VST with e-drums so much better lol
Hey Jay, yeah using midi & external sample libraries opens up so many great possibilities :) have fun & happy drumming!
Are there any tips/tricks/settings you can recommend? I have the same combination and can't get as good a sound to my recording console as I do when I just mouse click the samples on EZD3.
5:33 sounds like a John "Bonzo" Bonham Kit
exactly what i thought. no wonder it's the most played part of the video
I have both EZDrummer 2 and Superior Drummer 3, and quite honestly I've never been crazy about the sounds in either of them. The tuning and recording styles in EZ3 in this video sound so much better than the others. So much more natural and less processed sounding. It's not that EZ2 and SD3 sounded fake, because they did sound real. But like real character-less generic drums. These all sound pretty awesome. Big improvement!
Absolutely, I think so too. The EZD3 kits have tons of character, depth & sound/feel very "3D" to me. Kind regards!
Yeah I found the SD3 core library really one-dimensional and not actually that versatile. I still used 2 and bought SDXs, but I'm really jealous of the EZ3 core!
@@CharlieLord Yeah, I really wanted to like SD3 after spending so much money on it, but I just don't. I've tried customizing to no end too and it just never sits in the mix the way I want. I actually don't think I'll ever buy another toontrack product because of that, even if I do think the EZ3 sounds are good.
@@demonicsweaters I fully agree. Spent the last few years trying to get SD3 to sit in the mix and finally went back to SSD5. Much better mix-ready kits. SD3 is great if you want to pretend to engineer a real kit.
@@rwhitten577 I think that’s the entire sales pitch of SD vs EZD. Raw elements for you to mix and shape vs the pre-processed mix that you control some balance of. I’m really happy with EZD for the get up and go. SD seems to have accurately described itself as something for you to put some more work into with the highly increased versatility. I mean look at the gb size of expansions for each. EZX peaking around 6Gb. SDX starting around 150Gb
Holy cow. This is unbelievably good sounding, and that kit looks WAY better than anything I've ever seen from Roland.
Thank you Jared, you can find the drum-tec diabolo limited series (12 finishes) over here if you like:
www.drum-tec.com/pads/drum-tec-diabolo
Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV That’s exactly what I’ve been looking for. I’m in the US, can I get a hold of someone on the phone to talk to to build a kit and answer my questions etc?
@@husbandofbecca Hey Jared, sure! You'll find the phone number of our drum-tec hotline on www.drum-tec.com, or you can get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de as well. Kind regards!
It just sounds like you keep getting better and better and better!😁
Thank you so much Robert, the better the sounds the mopre inspiring it is to play. And lastly, the great feeling of the drum-tec diabolo kit helps a lot too :) kind regards!
Nice!! great job I have it too the bright room is my new fave!
Thanks Rob, yeah those kits sound nice & open. Kind regards!
wtf.. its so real🔥 awesome sound🔥
That ending was glorious
Thannk you Matt :)
Sound amazing. That kit too! Sweeeeet.
It seems, in the end, VST is the answer. I’m lugging around an iPad and sub-mix anyway. A laptop plus interface wouldn’t hurt much.
You play very nice man... the sound of EZdrum 3 so warm and nice sounding ... Nice playing nice playing !!! AWESOME
Thank you very much! You can find more drumming/music & sound demo videos over at my private channel digitaldrumming too if you like:
ruclips.net/user/digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
Great sound and playing! ...as always :D Me myself would consider to buy EZD3 just for that Open Kick Roomy kit. That's some fat sound - really inspiring..
Absolutely, there are tons of great sounding kits/presets in EZD3, and I haven't even started to edit/modify anything :D I honestly was blown away by the variety & sound quality, reall impressive. Kind regards!
For sure. That's the Zep/Bonham sound big time. Total Levy Breaks sound
Sick sounds and awesome playing. Holy moly
Thank you Lars! :)
Man i need an electric kit. Would make things a lot easier and would be a whole lot more inspiring!
Hey Brandon, absolutely! It's great for practicing, rehearsing/gigging and especially production work at the studio. Although I am also tracking acoustic drums in the live room, I wouldn't want to live without my midified e-kit in the editing room for felxibility & quickness. Kind regards!
drumtec video always insane! super nice drum review~ thank you~
Thank you very much, that's great to hear! :)
wow...sounds great!!!!!!
...the kits sound cool too 😉.....Probably the best ekit sounds i've heard so far
Hey Man, amazing drumming. the kit just sounds PHENOMENAL with those sounds! i've just hooked up EZD3 to my roland td-50. it's on the lowest latency setting, TD-50 preset. i've done everything correctly following many guides. however the velocity is absolutely ALL over the place. all the videos i've watched have all said just basically plug and play and it sounds like what you're playing. mine sounds HORRIFIC. i have no idea what to do! thanks!!!!!
Thanks Joel! Hm, wow that sounds weird. Everything working fine if you play with TD-50 internal sounds / all trigger settings are set up appropriately? You are right, what comes out of the midi outputz should be more or less the "same" that's being used to trigger the TD-50 internal sounds, so with some minor adjustments it should really be kind of plug & play with EZD, using the correct midi mapping preset. Kind regards!
Ahhh it was amazing!!!
Thank you! :)
Best sound ever wow
Great playing as usual Ralf!
I only bought EZ 2 and 3 for the drum sounds, so I can play them in SD3. Really liking the new kits. I find the new EZ core plays better with my Edrums in SD3 for some reason, particularly the high hats.
Thank you Anthony! I'll have to check this out too, maybe because of the more detailed midi mapping / hihat mapping functions, the SD environment improves playability indeed. Kind regards & happy drumming!
Sounds amazing bro!...superb performance!!!
Thank you very much! You can find some more drumming with EZD3 & the same kit over here if you like:
ruclips.net/video/4YimrssRQjo/видео.html
Kind regards!
The open kick roomy kit sounded like Jb...very good.
Yes absolutely!
"when the levee breaks got no place to stay..."
I think since is a new software they took more in consideration the midi triggers cause they sound more natural to what ralph is doing vs other vst
EZD3 midi mapping features have been improved & are much better / flexible than with EZD2 indeed. Kind regards!
wow, this makes me consider replacing Getgood Drums for EZD3 as my main VST considering the samples alone. Great video as usual!
Thank you Maximo! :)
Open kick roomy sounds very cool! Well everything sounds cool actually..lol
:-D
Would drum tech ever consider building a module?....
That fill at 3:34 is so tasty!
Thank you so much Jay! You can find more drumming/music & sound demo videos over at my private channel digitaldrumming too if you like:
ruclips.net/user/digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
Hey those sound great 👍 nice job
Thank you Adam! :)
What setup do you use for ezdrumer 3 on the TD-17? Do you have some special configurations at EZDrummer3 and on the module? Would be so helpful!! Thanks so far for this amazing video!
Hey Thomas, just used the Roland TD-17 mapping preset inside of EZD3. Then everything works nicely & you can remap instruments if neccessary. I didn't change any parameters on the module. Kind regards!
Very good!!!
Thank you Luis!
Would love to see drum tech do a 'vst module package' ready to go. Trigger to midi converter and laptop/vst all set up ready to go out of the box. Sort of like a module. They could set it all up and take alot of the headache out of using vst/computers for drums.
I’m blind and I would love for them to do this.
You quite literally just have to get a USB a to b cable, download a DAW and drag your preferred drum library into it, maybe install some midi drivers while you're at it and midi mapping etc won't be an issue with up to date libraries.
There are a bunch of tutorials right here on RUclips holding your hand through the whole process. You shouldn't feel anxious about it, it is very easy once you just sit down and spend an hour on it.
The single Sounds are really great, but I have the same issue as with the Hansa SDX. The alternate Samples (for the same articulation) are sounding much too similar. And that makes it sound very unreal. You hear this very good on the snare rolls. Old BfD Libaries dont have this Problem and sound so much more real, even if they are 10 years old.
BTW great playing and setup !!!
Hi Ralph, I use a Roland TD-12 just to trigger SD3 and EZD3, but I find it bad in terms of latency. (Unless I play it with rough sounds and then use the samples later) Will it help if I upgrade to a TD30 for example? Or TD50x? ... to be able to play with SD3 sound directly?
Killer playing and sounds. I'm using a TD17 with EZ3. How did you get the cymbal bow sound on the crash? I just get the crash sound when I play on the center of the cymbal pad.
Thank you Jim! When I am using the TD-17 mapping preset in EZD3, the cymbals are mapped as dual zone correctly, including cymbal chokes also. Have you double checked your trigger presets for the cymbals inside the module? Kind regards!
Verry nice
Thanks Michael!
Jesus…Ralph makes me wanna quit playing…
But this was great, because I’m using the same setup, only w a Roland PD125/105/125XS kit…The kits sound great!
Thank you so much, it's all about routine/practice honestly :) kind regards!
Awesone
Sounds fantastic as always! What audio/midi interface are you using?
Thank you very much Jeff! At my home studio I am using a Presonus Quantum 4848 as converters/interface. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV Looks/sounds like it tracks midi well. Thanks for the quick reply.
Very cool, but my complaint for years has always been the feel of the HiHats, and it still holds imo.
In this demo, it sounds too tight, and the open hihat sound is not quite there (I think it's the cutoff).
The intro is awesome.
Is that Ezdrummer as well?
I actually used EZD2 for the music :) I didn't have the time (until now...) to bring EZD3 up in a song/mix yet, but this will follow soon. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV nice. keep up the good work.
This is some amazing drumming! What type of tuning did you do or any modifications to EZDrummer 3? I use this for my Strike Pro SE and I’m really loving the first kit!
Thank you very much! All sounds from the demo are stock EZD3 sounds/kits without any further editing actually. You can find more drumming/music and sound demo videos on my private channel digitaldrumming too if you like:
ruclips.net/user/digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
Beautiful sound! Questionnaires; is it nescesery to repliceerde my triggers afternoon 10 years? I OWN A drum TEC pro set.
Hey Richard, please get in touch through exprts@drum-tec.de for any technical questions. Kind regards!
Is there a video showing the difference in sounds? What does the EFNOTE 3x sound like on its own vs with EZDRUMMER3?.. we don't actually see EZDRUMMER3 playing.. we just get to watch an awesome drummer jam out 😎
I am not sure if I understand right, this demo shows EZD3 on the drum-tec diabolo ltd. kit in my studio. If you are interested in the EFNOTE 3X, please check out the other demos:
ruclips.net/video/NGfky1ReI8Y/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/wWd-BzmNqO0/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/9L6Y8v0kyhc/видео.html
Kind regards
Sounds awesome, I currently own EZ Drummer 3. I’m honestly more interested in the e drums. Lol . Do these drums ship to the USA?
Hey Dathan, sure we ship internationally. You'll find all infos on drum-tec electronic drums here:
www.drum-tec.com/edrums
Please feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for any further assistance and/or an individual quote on any custom kit configuration incl. international shipping if you like. Kind regards!
Man… is there anywhere i could get the transcriptions of your fills???😊
😀 Not yet, maybe some time in the future! You can find more drumming / music / sound demo videos on my private channel digitaldrumming also if you like:
ruclips.net/user/digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
I’d love to hear XLN AD2 plus the various AdPaks vs Toontrack libraries
Hi richard, AD also has some nice sounds, but in my personal experience, the Toontrack libraries just work better for me when using electronic drums to play/trigger them live. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV thanks for your reply. Why do you prefer the Toontrack libraries when using electronic drums?
@@richardpenrose1968 Hey Richard, midi mapping just works better in my opinion, making playability more "fluid" and natural. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV thankyou. That’s interesting to know 😊
THE REAL HERO.....IS ROLAND
Absolutely, Roland sound modules offer state-of the-art triggering & playability. Yet, the playing feel of the drum-tec pads & the epic sounds of Toontrack lift results onto a completely different level, than any standard Roland kit :) kind regards!
Hi there !
You videos are awesome and really helpful. I just got Alesis Surge and Easy Drummer 3. It's super cool stuff to play and practice. I tried to use it with my students during online lessons, but it didn't work ....
Did you have some issues like this?
Is it possible to use this software with teaching ?
Thank you .
EZD3 sounds great! Do the Diabolo and Jam series also work with older Roland modules like the TD12 or TD20? Espacially interested in the Diabolo snare using positional sensing and Superior Drummer 3
Hey Fabian, yes all drum-tec pads are 100% Roland compatible, also with older modules. The diabolo & pro series support positional sensing, if the module has this feature (TD-12 & TD-20 have it).
You can find some REALLY old demos with a TD-12 module, Superior Drummer 2 & the diabolo series here:
ruclips.net/video/yHLe_ep6yU8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/KJTi7eOkGMU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/aF8q_MAL8zg/видео.html
Not quite up-to-date, but I used the TD-12 anyhow :-D kind regards!
@@drumtecTV thanks! That‘s cool👌🏻
Are these base sound for EZ3 ..... without any additional purchase
Yes, all these kit presets are included in the EZD3 core library, and there are many more :) kind regards!
there are 2,500 new midi files too
Sounds epic
Are you using Pc or Mac
Also are you using interface device too or not?
Thanks 🥁
I am running EZD3 as a plugin in Logic Pro Audio on a Macbook Pro. For monitoring/recording I am using a Presonus Quantum 4848 interface/converters. Kind regards!
Can anybody tell me the E-Drum Set that he's playing???
Hi, it's a drum-tec diabolo limited series kit (grey slate finish), you'll find more info here:
www.drum-tec.com/drum-tec-diabolo-limited-edition-e-drums-grey-slate
More info on drum-tec electronic drums in general:
www.drum-tec.com/edrums
Feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for further advice and/or an individual quote on any custom kit configuration incl. international shipping. Kind regards!
Hey Ralph! Does it have the same e drums features as superior drummer? The positional sensing stuff and so
EZD3 now has the mapping "learn" button, which was a Superior exclusive feature before (which is great). EZD3 mapping features for e-drums have been improved in general. As far as I know, positional sensing remains a Superior Drummer exclusive feature unfortunately. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV that's great to hear. Following your "life is too short for bad drums" advise I've got myself one of those VAD kits. They are great and I programmed some sounds that are miles better of what comes by default. Next up is probably this or superior but I'm back to saving money so oh well 😂😂😂
hi so much impressive. i bought td17 and ez3 but that great sounds can i dont play. do you can a video to show us how you setup your sounds? that would be sooo good!
Thank you very much! The sounds from the demo are all stock sounds / presets from EZD3 actually. No further editing/mixing in there :) kind regards!
@@drumtecTV hi great playing! which preset did you use? thx
@@intotherainbowvain2994 All kit names are shown in the bottom left corner during the demo. Kind regards!
Do you use an interface or direct USB module-Mac?
Hi, the USB is connected directly to my macbook, but for monitoring I am using a Presonus quantum 4848 interface/converter. You can use any (smaller) interface, which lets you monitor at low latency though. Kind regards!
I just got EZ drummer 2 and I haven’t even hooked it up yet. Should I just upgrade to the 3 since I haven’t did anything on it yet?
Hey Robert, I think you can still use the sounds of both if you do the upgrade. You might get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de to make sure. I think EZD3 is a huge improvement over EZD2, especially in sounds but also concerning improved midi mapping features when using e-drums. Kind regards!
www.drum-tec.com/toontrack-ezdrummer-3-upgrade-download?number=1010076
Kind regards!
Thanks!😁
Does ezdrummer have the same support for digital pads with positional sensing and dead ride sounds? Or is it more of a basic vst with traditional samples:)?
As far as I know, EZD does not support any positional sensing, that's a Superior Drummer exclusive feature unfortunately. Kind regards!
I just bought EZdrummer 3 because of this video, but i cant choke my cymbals as shown in this video. I’m using a Roland TD-25 module… any tips?
Hi Ciara, are you using the Roland TD-25 midi mapping preset inside of EZD3? Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV yes i am, but still no luck. I’ve even tried a factory reset on my module.
Can anyone add for me the settings needed to do this on my MacBook Air? Do you need a DAW? Is it better to use an audio interface? I’m looking to use EZD3 for live performances, but new to the whole mix and match with edrums. I will be using a Roland TD27.
I think you need a daw but just get a free one. Ezdrummer 2 had a standalone version though but you needed to mod an XML file to get proper scaling which sucked.
I think they all have proper presets, so if you haven't changed midi mapping in the module it should be plug and play.
Also i think on newer modules you just need USB. The big bottleneck should be the cpu and drivers so if you have a modern pc i don't think you'll have an issue or need an audio interface.
Off course for maximum performance and reliability some people prefer a pcie interface which will technically be better than USB I believe. But it's negligible and is a huge investment, so mostly for users with existing gear/microphones etc.
What desk or laptop did you use to connect and run ezdrummer3? How is the latency?
EZD3 is running inside of Logic Pro Audio on a Macbook pro, I am using presonus Quantum 4848 as converters/interface, with super low latency. Kind regards!
Does EZ3 fully support the TD17 module? I've been using AD2 for a while and getting accurate triggering (especially ghost notes) is a headache sometimes. Thanks!
Hi, yes in my experience all Toontrack libraries have very good midi mapping support by now & can be played nice & fluidly with any contemporary Roland module. There are several passages in the demo, where you can also some hear ghost note "intensive" funk grooves actually :) kind regards!
Does the drum module still effect the sound although you play over VST?
No, you need to turn local control off within the module.
Not the sounds per se, but the accuracy of triggering/playability and additional trigger features like positional sensing for example still depend on the module (although EZD is not supporting positional sensing anyhow, but Superior Drummer does) :) kind regards!
Hi from Italy. A question pls.....I have roland td27....and ez 3 I set in ez 3 a set sound and I go in td 27 and I set midi number for that pad that are not set. When I change set in ez 3 the number midi in td27 is not more that! How can I set td 27 and ez 3 for to have always same number midi? ths
Hi, you can use the midi learn button in EZD3 for remmaping instruments. You don't have to change anything in your module, if you are using the Roland TD-27 midi mapping preset in EZD3:
ruclips.net/video/nPOYxyzc4zs/видео.html
Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV ok thanks very much. The link ok i saw in the past time. Anorher info: i set in setting...audio midi Asio4all and all ok maybe the volume is little low but i set by computer.....but if i set td27 every 5 minute about....the sound is stopping for half second! Why? Ths
The foot splash hi-hat did not work.
Hi Barry, it did please listen with headphones, it's a little silent. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV I know that it is the weakest point of the set 😊
@@barrylok7185 The foot splash is actually working quite well in the module, so it's rather the way that EZD is handling the trigger info to create the foot splash sound I guess. Kind regards!
are the triggers coming from the drum heads?
Hi, yes I am playing a 100% Roland compatible drum-tec diabolo limited series electronic drum kit. You can find more info on drum-tec electronic drums over here:
www.drum-tec.com/edrums
Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV Thanks for the info! I'm very interested in turning my drum kit into an electronic one.
@@TheMathPipe You can do an A to E conversion with your kit too, but the triggering & playing feel results won't be on the same level as with professionally manufactured pads like the drum-tec diabolo series honestly. Kind regards!
It’s sad that you have to spend an extra $200 to make a $2000 drum set sound good.
Hey Dustin, I honestly think that having super high end drum sounds from some of the most professional recording studios on the planet at hand for 200 bucks seems like a legit deal to me. That's what you'll pay as a daily rate in a VERY small and cheap recording studio actually :-D kind regards!
Still 3 grand with no cymbals and no module and no hardware. Hope your module includes cables. Those aren't included either looks like.
Hi Roland, cable snakes are coming with the Roland TD-17 module. And indeed, there are more affordable e-kits available, but obviously those won't deliver the same amount of authentic playing feel as the drum-tec diabolo series, that I love & use at the studio almost every day. Kind regards!
:)
Hey when i plug my laptop in to my td27 module the sound from ez drummer seems so quiet, should i run the headphones through the module or the laptop?