Adam Savage Inspects a $500 Suit of Armor!
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2021
- In Adam's ongoing obsession with historical armor, he checks out what a $500 suit of armor purchased on Etsy looks like and how its build quality compares with the armor he's made for himself. From helmet to gauntlet, let's unbox this suit together and see exactly what you can get for the price!
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I'm most impressed on how they were able to get all that armour in that one box.
Exactly, that was my first thought too. I would be intimidated trying to pack that.
And that the box survived the way it did from India.
The box was bigger on the inside. Lol.
yeah usually you have to open a chest for each piece
Armour is mostly hollow... I put my armour which has way more parts in a sport bag
I smell a new series called "A Savage Review of Armor", starting with the cheap ones and working your way up to the real beauties.
*maybe a long distance collaboration with Shad of Shadiversity...which would be absolutely and thoroughly amazing*
@@scottmantooth8785 eh, maybe not, not if you're trying to get anything historically accurate
haha. I'd watch it
I see this armor as a good head start on a really fun project to just tweak this thing beyond beyond it doesn't have to be a battle armor it could be a spaceship caveman armor I don't know you know it is candy colored paint job just freak freely see what you can do
That I would love to see.
Love how he just builds an armor stand in the middle of the video. Thats how you know he got a good workshop
That etsy seller is gonna get so bombarded with orders
Why am I thinking about buying a suit of armor? 30 minutes ago, it had never crossed my mind.
Honestly never considered it to be a real possibility. Now I'm wondering just how weirded out visitors would be
forget about buying it I'm going to make my own suit in a week or so
@@iplaywiiu547 How's that going? Care to share your current WiP?
@@OwlskiTV I have a few videos of my progress on my channel
@@iplaywiiu547 Ah I see..
I'm not sure the kinda metal you're working with (looks like sheet aluminum?), but to help get a better curvature for the breastplate, you can form it using a sturdy rounded object.
I'd also be careful and either roll the edges of your tassets (using a hammer), or at the very least deburr and round the edges with a file.
All in all, a bit crude, but (if you keep at it) you'll learn as you continue to work on the hobby. Keep it up : )
As a former armourer, I can honestly say that I’ve never made anything for as little as $500, let alone a full suit.
Yes, this armour is at the low end of the quality scale but, I can honestly say, I’ve seen far worse sold for much more.
While this may be a descent purchase for use as a set rental, I think might feel reluctant to shell out the cash for it due to the potential slave labor that may have gone into its construction. Even with machine stamped pieces, it’s difficult for me to imagine how they kept the selling cost down to $500.
This is really good point, im not An armourer but My best friend is an on/off blacksmith And i myself hand sew medieval clothes semi-professionally, And its mind boggling to think how that thing is costing so little. there is NO way its done in humane conditions. This should honestly Be The top comment or pinned by Adam.
When cost of living is not even $10 a day in some parts of India, things get done for cheap. What you think of as "slave labor" is normal living for a lot of people.
So, I spent quiet some time travelling around India and I can confirm Hydro Aegis's comment is accurate.
I have seen, and you can see many videos on YT, of people churning out astonishingly intricate pieces of art made from stone, wood, metal etc.
When I was travelling, the roads where packed for miles with workshops producing amazing stuff and it was so cheap I felt humbled because the same work done over here would have cost a hundred times more; it was all done with basic, old tools, no modern electric machinery.
@@hydroaegis6658India has a massive problem with slave labor.
Its made in india
Okay, so it doesn't rival a real, custom, hand made set of armor, but that's surprisingly good quality for a $500 set of armor.
Well, it looks like it was mass produced. The helmet quality is utter dookie. I've built some armor myself, and a helmet of that style would be over a thousand, and functional.
@@gofoats if the armor is 1mm thick everywhere then yeah it wont be very functional however I still believe it will hold up a douple of light hits when you do some easy fighting, but if its for display than this is 1 thousand times better than any custom build set.
value wise it's extremely impressive. I'm pretty sure custom, hand made sets of historically accurate armor set you back thousands of dollars
Honestly forget about wearing it, that's a pretty nice display piece for 500 bucks. 👍
That style or rear brace (upper arm) is historical, you find it a lot on Italian armor from around the 1570’s. The Chicago Institute of Art has some beautiful examples in their arms and armor collection.
Rerebrace
Leg armor is actually more important for people riding than for infantry. You’re higher up when on a horse, so your legs are easier targets than when you’re on foot. Infantrymen commonly left their legs unarmored because they were hard targets. Cavalry began leaving their shins unarmored later in the 16th century due to the increasing weight needed to stop bullets.
Regardless of some tweaks and reworking that's allot of hardware for $500. Looks like a win to me.
13:20 "I need... an armor stand"
2 seconds later: "Oh, here's one"
I know I was thinking the same thing!
What makes it better is the stand was just one piece and he just built on to it to fit the armor.
Adam should invite toby capwell on, toby would be a great advisor for getting a harness together
Adams words This is going to need a lot of work. His viewers oh goodie
I can't imagine selling something like this for 500usd. I know the workforce in India is quite cheap, but damn.
Yeah it's definitely crazy if you compare it to what it would cost in the west. But then in India the median salary seems to be around 400usd so that's a nice chunk of change over there.
I imagine they saved a lot by making both arms the same
Once again I'm suggesting Adam do an entire series with the SCA. Adam would have an absolute ball with every part of the organization.
Agreed. But who says he hasn't already? Hosting an armoring workshop and inviting SCA armorers to film segments would be a LOT of fun!
yes! this is something I want. tested@pennsic
Pretty sure theyd tell him to leave the 1mm armor at home...
Almost seems like a nobrainer to get this much material in this state ready to be modified and fitted for $500
Totally. The amount of work that goes into just putting it together...not even counting the preparing of all parts and cost of material...amazing.
Also, this suit is made of steel, not aluminum. Much more dent resistant and substantial, but quite a bit heavier too.
"fitting" steel armor to someone is almost as difficult as making it from scratch. Unless you're a skilled metalworker or know an armorer willing to do the modification for a good price, buying and armor with the intent of modifying it isn't likely worth it.
If you take this pile of junk to an armourer and ask them to modify it to fit you, it will cost at least 2-3000$ and it will still not fit comfortably since the over all shape is completely wrong. It is probably more worthwhile to commission armour based on your measurements.
The is also the question if it's actually steel or just pot metal being called steel. What grade of steel, is it hardened or even hardenable. Has it been annealed to remove stress and fatigue from working. It's also pretty thin for armer. An awful amount of questions that may or may not be answerable.
I just checked out that Etsy store, what shocked me was the Free shipping! Oh my how much does that box weigh?
Thank you for doing the research necessary to find affordable items. The information is very much appreciated!
The swivel arms remind me of stove pipe swivels, but what they've done is simple bead roller work.
Those tassets are referred to as, “lobstered” when it’s many layered pieces like that.
The spinning joint on the upper arm was a feature found on late and expensive armor. This set looks like a 16th century style based on the pauldrons and Cuisses (thigh armor)
I wouldn't recommend it for use in SCA combat. One solid hit on that joint could crease the metal, and then you couldn't turn your arm.
I'm so happy watching this video because you're so happy in it! Your excitement is infectious. Love it.
I enjoyed this, especially seeing Adam get excited like a normal person (I) would while opening a box of armour.
Ok, no lie, I literally was looking at buying a cheap Esty suit of amour but held off. Having Adam make a video on it is such a fantastic coincidence. I wish he could review all the other random weird things in my shopping cart right now lol
That takes me back to my SCA days and the fitting wearing and fighting in Armor for best part of 25 years..smile
That rotating arm joint is great until someone lays a weapon against it with any level of force, then you can say bye bye to arm rotation. Probably why it is not very common in traditional armor. That formed bevel would not take a whole lot of damage before becoming completely locked, I small dent or welt would probably do it. Not taking smack, still an awesome deal.
Only there's mountains of 16th century armour with that same joint.
@@SuperFunkmachine 16th century combat was very different from full-contact SCA combat, and anyone in period who could afford the armor could afford a smith to repair the stuff after every fight. Most modern re-creationists don't have that option.
Digging the SCA shout out right at the beginning! When are we gonna see you at a fighter practice?!
I really enjoyed that, not just for the armor but for your personality while looking it over. Im so happy you made a RUclips channel because that would suck not being able to watch Adam Savage anymore.
Hope you are well Adam. Keep the cool vids coming. Regards from Torquay in England
Adam I'm telling you that watching you putting that nice armor together it's very pleasing, relaxing and satisfying. I'm a person who likes to put things together manually. Great work!!
A good set of commisioned custom made fit nowadays costs roughly around 4K or so in usd, and thats only the "plate armor" part, you'll most likely want to have a taliored padded armor and taliored mail armor.
I hope we get to see Adam Savage getting a set of custom made armor, it'll bring so much joy to an armor enthusiast!
adam did make a suit of armor with terry english (there's a playlist of the process).
I get that Adam has way higher standards for armour than I do, but I would be totally happy with that as a $500 purchase. I'd love to see a series where Adam does all of the alterations that were bouncing around in his head at the end of this video.
Well at that level a suit isn't really wearable since the joints don't usually work right.
Everytime I see a pair of gauntlets, I'm taken back to the time I watched Robin Hood: Men in Tights. The dual slap when Cary Elwes slaps Roger Rees with a gauntlet
"But at least I can speak in an English Accent." *Looks at camera*
I quite honestly might pick it up. I have wanted a suit of armor for a while, but I have never gotten a full set, and this looks like a good begining, at least for me. Thank you so much for the video, it was really helpful!
For a display piece, it's a great $500 item to upgrade the look of your home - like maybe a front hall or living room piece. It looks like whoever made it took the time to study the design and construction of 16th(?) century plate armour. The only quam I can really say I have is that Adam... you put the Gorget on the outside and not under the Cuirass ;)
Funny watching your videos on the antique armors in the museum, handling them so delicately, to throwing this shit around
I’d say for the price alone it would be worth getting just to have a solid starting point to modify from
Would love Peter Lyon's opinion on the armor's build quality and engineering
I want one just to hide the trigger that opens the door to my hidden office.
Yeah, a great use for a displayed suit of armor! This reminds me that when I was a kid, I really wanted a suit of armor on a stand in my house!
“I need an armor stand” just happens to have a vertically mounted piece of wood standing around.
We obviously need a follow up video where you show us how you go about fitting it and improving on it, with a finished product on your body at the end!
Keep in mind that Adam HAS buildt a suit of armor from scratch as an apprentice armorer.
This is the perfect armor for a peasant like me fighting at helm's deep.
It's reminiscent of English civil war armour, put it over a ' Buff coat ' and replace the helmet with a ' Lobster tail ' helmet and you have a respectable looking Round Head Cavalry officers display 👍
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Also a very true statement!
There's certainly no way I could produce that for anything close to $500. By the way, I just sent Tested a package....not exactly armor, but should be pretty fun. Be on the lookout for it.
Yeah, but David, your stuff is priceless…😉 (and of serious artisan quality…!)
I suspect this was made in the 70s when minimum wage was $1.50/hr
@@firsttpt "Ships from India"
Is it a firearm?
@@firsttpt alot of the armor you see on Amazon, ebay and places of that sort comes from India. Lots of different store/ seller names for only a handful of manufacturing locations. That's why the armor doesn't cost much.
I have a few pieces from these places. Not bad for what you pay.
Looks like a beautiful piece of armor. Some weathering and some new leather straps.
I am *amazed* at how well that was packed into that size of box. Kudos to the packer
Please make a series of videos step by step how you modify this armor!!
These videos make my Mondays 627% better
That’s not half as bad as I was expecting!
i paid $800 for a repair and refitting of a set of armor i actually owned, and I've paid $2000 for a set of gauntlets to the elbow,
I really hope Adam will make more content in collaboration with bladesmiths and armorsmiths. My favorite content Adam has on this channel is from that vein and I always love to see more
A couple points... first, just terminology: that bracket on the front of the cuirasse that you called a "shield holder" is actually a lance rest. Next, 0.040 inches (or 1 millimeter) comes out to roughly 25 gauge metal. That's way too thin for the SCA combat you mentioned towards the beginning of the video. My armor was 16-gauge steel, and still got occasional dents. I know some people used 18 gauge in places, especially where there was a lot of overlap... but 24/25 gauge would be pretty useless.
I see a whole series of Armor fitting and improvement one-day builds coming up.
that box just kept on giving. that was some neat packing
14:15
Can't help but notice the perfectly capable wooden clothes hanger in the background here.
As someone who has had several harness made i have to say i am impressed. As a display piece its very good
As Adam mentioned, it can be a good starting point for customization. I'll be at the Ren Faire in a couple weeks so I'll see how much one of those go for there.
I'd love to see a follow-up when you tinker with it and show us how you would make it work for you. I'm definitely tempted by it, as $500 is a fantastic price for a starting set or even just a display piece. It looks very solid, and that's the point, isn't it?
great video i look forward to seeing what you do with it
Adam, the gorget is meant to go under the cuirass, not over it. Prevents gaps and looks better.
^^^^^This. VERY correct statement!
Definitely. Imagine a sword point hitting the breastplate and sliding upward.
Maybe, but armour was sometimes worn in an "incorrect" manner.
You don't put a gorget over a cuirass when it's designed to go under, there's absolutely no point in doing it and every reason not to.
That being said the armour in the video is awful and I don't think the gorget even fits under the cuirass as it's supposed to.
@@oldbrasso808 not for long ;)
That spinning upper arm joint is pretty cool, but I have to imagine it would be very fragile, if the armor gets dented even slightly in that area it would probably lock up entirely.
As far as I know, that design is for duels to death. Armors for that covered pretty much everything in late medieval period, far more than suit of armor made for battle.
Check out Kult Of Athena. They’ve got everything from cosmetic cosplay armor to battle ready steel armor to every kind of weapon you can imagine.
That upper leg piece is called a segmented leg bracer. That is indeed a set of late period English cavalry armor.
It's amazing what high-quality workmanship you can get from India. A few years ago I ordered a US Navy Deep-sea diver Mark V helmet for only $150 Canadian shipping included off of Amazon and was blown away with the quality and build of the helmet.
that looks like a lot of value for money, imagine how much work it would take to make that yourself. i can earn 500dollars way way quicker than i could making just a few of those pieces.
I have quite a bit of armor myself. 2 helmets , 3 pairs of gauntlets, shoulder pauldrons, greaves, and a pair of bracers. 2 chainmail coifs, a pair of tassets
WOW, all that for $500? With those brass rosettes on the leather, and the badass arm articulation? You got a hell of a deal.
"bad articulation" There, I fixed it for you.
I would like to see a video or more of you fixing the armor to be worn. I was a professional armorer for mostly sca and some hollywood for 2 decades and would love to see this kind of content. heck i am in san diego and would love to help you with it.
Plus 1 for this suggestion.
Thinking we need an awesome Winter Soldier arm build after seeing that armor arm!
Keep up the great work and entertainment
For practical protection, those arm joints seem like a terrible idea: get one solid dent there, the mechanism binds up and your arm's stuck
I don't have arms.
Its unlikely to bend on the elbow esspecially becouse of the domed shape
No one has used plate armor for practical protection in 500 years.
@@1pcfred People use plate armor for several sports. This is considered practical protection. Jousting with full contact is still practiced today.
this was already true for actual for combat armor when it was regularly used. but better for your armor to get dented than a sword or spear going through your joints. thats why knights and other wealthy people (the only ones who could afford armor like that) had armorsmiths to keep their armor in good repair.
We've got a very similar suit here and have been wanting to do some mods... so PLEASE, Adam, do a follow-up video to give us some inspiration!
Agree, would love to see a followup on him modifying it, though he doesn't seem as overly-enthralled about it, and modifying each of the pieces to better fit him would probably take a lot of time, work, and effort that idk if he has the time to do so.
I'm personally modifying some fairly basic mild-steel 'larp' armor. Got it at a really affordable price (since it had some cosmetic dmg), and it's actually based more on later 14th century european armor.
From one layman armor modifier to another; How I've modified it, I've just donned the armor along with the proper gambeson/attire underneath, and moved around in it, making note of areas that need to fit tighter or need to be modified a little so they don't push against parts of my body.
I then make a mark on the armor with some sorta marker that matches the marking in the notes (to reference later).
I then use a small 50lbs anvil and a wooden mallet I made to make subtle bends and curves where necessary. (flipping the anvil and using the horn side upside down I find helps)
It's definitely a processess, as you have to put on/off the armor each time, but I've managed to get the breastplate to fit very comfortably.
Great for decoration at that price. looks really good.
This style of armour is English civil war Roundhead armour mostly worn by officers and commanders for show. The ranks would wear maybe only wear the breastplate. Oliver Cromwell is pictured mostly wearing this type of armour. There are several examples in the great Hall of Edinburgh Castle.
We wound up with a very similar one for an event that fell through. Client wanted a Knight in armor and a Maiden. Gig fell through though. Oh well...it fits in with our décor. lol
100% worth it if you intend to display. Very nice, really.
As I watched this, I imagined Adam being transported back 500 years medieval Europe, and being a highly valuable and skilled armourer for a rich vassal lord.
Technical and maker skills have long been highly valuable (and obviously more so in the past 100 years). So it's interesting to think what one might have been doing hundreds of years ago if you had the same interests and skills, but put into an entirely different universe and time.
There's some serious skilled craftsmen in India they can replicate anything ,all right probably not the most high quality of stuff but the time and effort gone into making that ,with probably very rudimentary equipment is awesome for the cost ! Respect to those men , and woman !!!.
I thought the two little angle parts were to go on the front face of Pauldran as lance deflectors, the gauntlets look useable if they were riveted to leather straps rather than each other you might get the movement looks like a cracking deal at that price you'd probably spend that on materials alone.
The gauntlet pieces should be riveted to a strong glove, like the ones worn by welders. Take these halfway apart and re-assemble on the properly sized gloves.
I own a complete suit with made-to-size sabatons and grieves. The arms are the Avanti set along with the thighs which are both very well made and the forearms rotate with your forearms like Adam was having fun with. Cuirass is German Gothic with lots of fluting, and the gauntlets have Maximillian fluting and "heart" holes. I have three helmet that each came with a matching gorget. A complete suit that looks semi-museum quality will cost $1,500-$2,000. Good gauntlets start at $180+ along with a good helmet like a German sallet. Both of my German sallets have Darth Vader backs that flex with multiple articulations.
I've always fancied a suit of armour in my hallway, for that purpose the price is amazing.
It looks really good for a 500 bucks suit of armor. It resembles a mid-late 16th century northern italian three quarter armor. It is a later period armor that doesn't require a lot of padding. The way you've assembled it is not entirely correct though. In this style of armor the gorget is usually the first thing to wear and the quirass goes over it.
Nicee!!!!! im obsesed with armors too, but im not impresive with that one, i ve seen some really expectacular full metal armors , but that one its also ok!, hope this chanell keeps uploading videos of Adam savages unboxing medieval stuffs
If there is one youtuber who is suitable to review this kind of product, its Adam
I can hear a certain australian scoffing near his castle XD
Yeah, but that's getting to be all he does.
Overall, not bad! For display or starters, quite good. Doing adjust to fit will take some time. Not a bad price compared to starting from zero!
Take a shot every time Adam says "500 bucks"
Did I hear Adam say "SCA Approved"? Is Adam in the SCA or has been in the SCA?? I am now very curious.
I'm curious about this too! The SCA might be one place he could go where people will treat him with respect, and hopefully not bug the crap out of him. If I saw him at an event, I would definitely not bother him (other than maybe offering some home made mead).
Iron mountain armory is my go to armor they do amazing Japanese samurai armor
Not bad for $500, not bad at all. Considering how most things are made now-a-days, something hand made is something rare. Those wonderful ornate pieces that we have seen in Europe are priceless. Perhaps Jamie can do some wonders of his own with this suit of armor.
For $1k you could buy a couple and set them up next to your front door. Would actually look a damn sight better than some of the decorative armors I've seen in movie palaces.
That piece sticking out of the cuirass (at 8:25) is not a "shield holder". It's a lance-rest (or a lance arret). It's designed to grab onto the handle of a couched lance and physically connect it to the rider's body delivering as much momentum from the horse and the rider into the tip of that lance on a hit.
If you want to know more - see @ModernHistoryTV channel.
Currently looking around my study to work out where I would put one!
When do we get to see the Samurai armor?
For $500? Even if you only use it as a static display, that's a freaking great deal.
The spinning arm joints are the same as I have on my stainless steel wood stove flue in my workshop.
Fun fact - Real and full contact combat armor 13-14-15 century style would be not much far by price. $1000-3000 for full set depending on complexity and severity of combat. You could easily fit in $500 if you do some simpler things youself. (Ive been is historical medieval battles community for 6 years). Thing is it would be to heavy for LARP w/o combat or comicons so for a costume this one is ok.
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Hans Prunner has some great collections of armor photographs. Highly recommend for anyone interested