Warhammer 40k vs Fallout, who has the best Power Armor.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- This video compares the Warhammer 40k universe to that of the Fallout games.
Who has the best power armor?
How strong are Space Marines?
How Tough is Space Marine Armor?
Is Fallout 4 armor good?
Warhammer armor is better, but Fallout armor is gonna be easier to be mass produced.
The salamanders would be so happy that their friends the guardsmen die less
That true
Why the need for mass production though? Send in a chapter or two and it'll wipe out every mutant in a few days or weeks.
@@dudi0_0 Because space marines are valuable, more valuable than you are Guardsman!
Imagine trillions of guardsmen in fallout 4 power armor that could give them the ability to use the bolter gun
Imagine outfitting every single gaurdsmen with the best most upgraded fallout PA you can, which would be easy.
Increased strength equals heavier weapons, as canonically the PA was developed to allow soldiers to carry mounted weapons freely, and mounted lascannons and boltors are very powerful.
Those 10,000 gaurdsmen are now a much more dangerous threat to the imperiums enemies.
Fallouts Power Armor is basically universal with how easy it is to use and make it (Fallout 4 really makes that apparent with all the raiders who use it), and basically any person can just jump into it and use it well. Also the upgrades.
Yeah Space Marine armor is basically a tank in *EVERY* sense of the word, but you need to be a *Space Marine* to get the full advantage of it
Fallout have the advabtage of being be MASS PRODUCIBLE
AND CAN BE USE BE ALL PEOPLE NOT ONLY SUPER SOLDIERS
The Sisters of Battle aren't super soldiers and they use power armor that operate on the same system of servo motors and fiber optic bundles. It doesn't take a Space Marine to use their power armor . But normal humans don't get the benefits of being neutrally linked to the power armor.
It's not like Halos MJOLNIR power armor that can and will rip a normal human apart if they try to use it.
Space Marine Armor can be calibrated to the user. Granted a normal human would be shot for trying to use it. Because just like with an Astartes Bolter that is the property of the chapter and of the Emperor and you mortal are not allowed to use it.
I mean, you wouldn't really need mass production if you have a thousand or more one man killing machines.
Astartes armor isnt supposed to be mass produced though. Every chapter has 1000 hand picked marines, no more no less. When marines are killed, their armor weapons and gene seed are recovered. Anything still operable will be reused by another marine.
Some weapons and pieces of armor are ancient relics that have been in service for hundreds if not thousands of years
@@einarr7301 The armor is often damaged some are so badly damage that the armor has to be replaced. The standard armor is the Mk VII Aquila armor. Which is made from Plasteel and Ceramite. They lost the knowledge of how to produce Adamantium. Which older and much rarer armors were made with.
Also those weapons and armor relics are held in reserve and never given out to common Astartes. The Astartes have a ranking system just like the military in the real world. And technology is withheld by rank. So those relics are not found on the battlefield in 99.9% of battles.
So given the things that kill Astartes most of their suits technology and armor is damaged beyond repair. They might find a working shoulder piece and some leg armor . All the vital parts are in the chest and helmet . So those are going to be severely damage pieces. Also Gene Seed material formed in the two gene seeds that are removed are removed after a set number of years rather the Astartes is alive or not.
Five standard years after implantation, the Progenoid Gland in the neck contains mature gene-seed and may be removed and its germ cells harvested, while the larger chest Progenoid is not considered ready for harvesting until 10 standard years have passed.
So the first 10 years they have to play it safe and not get themselves killed. After that well we see 150 years old Captain Titus charging Orkz and Demons .. so gloves come off and they start getting into the real fighting. Also note an Astartes usually remains in a Scout Squad for a minimum of 10 years. So they aren't even sent into direct combat until after the gene seeds that must be removed are removed.
There have been worlds that had power armor similar to fallouts during the great crusade and they still got wiped by a few squads of astartes
I would like to see a fallout power armor for a guardsman regiment. They would be unstoppable
Space Marines are FAR above peak human. They can run at 70km/h for days on end, can lift and throw semi trucks like toys, and can survive being bisected completely.
They're totally different settings obviously
But I fucking LOVE Fallout's armor aesthetically, the T51 is everything that power armor should be
Also. Absolutely not 1.5 times strength, it's handily more than that, though definitely less than a space marine or even spartan. But you can wield vehicle mounted weapons in a suit of West Tek power armor, so that is NOT a simple 1.5X increase.
@@Swillery Dude don't talk to me when you don't f****** know Fallout lore okay t51 is never said anyway to increase strength by a factor of 1.5. it is never even insinuated by the gameplay.
Edit: Lmfao he deleted his comment
I was under the impression that lasguns were pretty much useless against space marines too. I’m pretty guard doctrine when fighting heretic marines is to volley fire and pray something finds a weak point
Well, most of the time the guard is actually fighting enemies in wich the lazguns are actually effective, but that doesnt mean the enemies that are resistant to them are few because is a big empire always at war. And they are no like the tau that can adapt weaponry and tactics on demand the imperium is far too lost in its logicstic nightmare as to develop more of certain waepons on a region of the galaxy than other, so they just stick with the option that in mas generaly works.
This was a fun little exercise!
I would absolutely love a comparison from the OG power armor, the one that I think popularized the idea, from Starship Troopers (the book not the movie) and throw it up against these two, though I think it would end up somewhere in between the two...
I mean they can literally leap miles in that armor in just moments and possess weapons from the simple, but effective combat knife to tactical nuke launchers.
Og starship troopers armour completely dwarfs almost all 40k human power armor with a few exceptions
Mobility is insane
Weaponry is amazing
And all of them have tactical shoulder mounted nukes for fun
Yeah Sisters of Battle is a better comparison point. I do wonder how a Ogryn would do against a Super Mutant. (Sad thing is the Super Mutant is smarter).
Or an Ork of the same size!
the most iconic Fallout power armour phase "you have been critically hit, for 0 damage"
Power armor actually doesn't only do 1.5x, in the show they can effortlessly crush people's skulls with just one hand or crush someone's leg by just stepping on them.
They prevent all fall damage (somehow) and they're capable of protecting the user from the cold and vacuum of space.
They'd also make laser weapons nearly useless against them.
FO76 mods make you able to fly with a jetpack, internal databases etc.
The space marine power armour is better physically and technologically.
However fallout power armour is more grounded for the universe it's in, and thus I prefer it
(also saying veteran soldiers with a photo of frank horrigan is a mistake)
One question about astartes armor durability. in one of your earlier videos you estimated that atartes power armor at it's thickest was 5-15 inches (127mm-381mm) and was resistant against modern 25mm auto cannon, however in your other video regarding bolt rounds are only 19mm at .45cal, most modern 25mm auto cannon rounds feature apfsds, which improve penetration greatly, bolt rounds do not, and yet space marines are regularly killed by bolt rounds even center mass (chest), so in my opinion astartes armor may not be as impenetrable as suggested.
He assumes that the sm power armor is equivalent to about 5-15 inches of rhs (rolled homogeneous steel) at its thickest points. Also, it does usually take several bolts to take out a space marine. Specialty bolts were made during the horus heresy to counteract that.
Bolt rounds are also rocket-propelled SAPHE rounds, not just ballistic lumps of lead.
And it still takes a few solid shots to do that
@@SeanCrosser well, yeah, but their explosive is tiny. You would be just as well comparing it to most small caliber incendiary rounds. Also have to mention just how ludicrous poorly designed the armor penetrating aspects of the bolt are. Hardened tip will shatter immediately on contact and reduce projectile energy, getting in the way of the penetrator. A penetrator whose shape is fairly wide, and not very long. The standard bolt is not far off from a boxing glove arrow when it comes to armor pen
I think alot of people out there forget that the bolter was designed to kill the Emperor's enemies, which during the great crusade were mostly less advanced/armored humans, orks, and a bunch of squishy Xenos... which the Bolter is honestly perfect for! It was never intended to be turned upon other Space Marines.
@@SeanCrosser most autocannons use either APFSDS rounds or Depleted Uranium rounds so not a lump of lead.
If you see ammo for an autocannon and the tip is blue it's likely Depleted Uranium.
Would love to see a video where you would see which technology from other sci-fi would benefit the imperium
How long Fallout armor would last versus Mjolnir Gen 1 or Gen 3 would be an interesting thought exercise.
Im not familiar with space marine armor, or 40k in general, but is the space marine armor as customizable and as easily mass produced as power armor? I think what makes the FO PA appealing and effective is that your regular ol' infantryman can use it, so you can outfit the whole military with it.
Customizable yes, mass produced no. There are suits of power armor cobbled together from the remains of other suits, and, the surface is simple enough you can attach jump packs, ammo packs, and/or arm-mount weapons without invasive work.
The HO-1B power armor is a rare advanced power suit made by the syndicate that can survive MININUKEs, making it better than Tactical Marine armor and rivaling terminator armor in durability
Still nowhere near as moble tho honestly mobility is the real factor that makes fallout armor worse than 40k power armor.
One Astartes solos the Fallout verse.
For your calculations of space marine power armor, is it capable of stopping the round AND the kinetic energy from killing the user or just stopping the 25mm round.
In all fairness, even just stopping the round is still a LOT better than Fallout's power armor, which only completely stops intermediate rounds. .308 can potentially punch through, and .50 is making mincemeat of a T-51.
That is child's play to Space Marine armor.
I mean, fallout TV show, guy threw a boulder like 1 km , he kicked a small rock accidentally and the impact of it destroyed a small house...
I think it's far more than 1.5 x peak human strength.
I would say that a more comparable matchup would be a death claw against a Power armor marine
Fallout power armour was first developed around 30 to 40 years from our time.
War hammer 40k armour was developed thousands of years from our time.
It is obvious on which one is going to be better.
well not every human in power armour was just a regular human, some in the enclave were mutants and even super mutants such as horrigan who were extremely powerful land only defeated by a peak character (the chosen one)
For your next Fallout video do you think you could try to do the calculations on just how powerful Fallout’s energy weapons are and maybe try to compare them with their counterparts from Halo and 40k.
He forgot that power armor had a jet pack mod
To be fair to Fallout if you wanted to go with the best of the best power armor T-51 wpuld only be your choice for Pre-War. Post Apocalypse its X-03 Hellfire. Which is an improvement upon an improvement over T-51.
I'm not saying that'd help Fallout in the slightest but Hellfire is considered laughably low tech to the Enclave.
I have a video idea for you: Elites from Halo VS Space Marines from Warhammer40k (firstborn and primaris if you want)
This is literally coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
Sisters of battle power armor would outclass fallout armor easily too, and humans can use that.
Fallout laser and plasma is not more potent than warhammer las or plasma. Lasguns will instantly kill somebody not wearing flak armor and even then will probably kill them even if they are wearing it. Lasguns point blank will shoot through a person's soft flesh and still kill a person behind them. Fallout lasers can't penetrate like that.
@@maxgb2000realLazguns can't immediately kill Catachan's or Ogryns, who probably have durability equal to mutants
The HO-1B power armor can survive mininukes, outshining the SOB armor completely outside of agility
Fallout Lazers tear arms off, killing other people behind them as well. And in the minutemen's case, literally turn you to ash
@@maxgb2000real Yes they can. Fallout lasers were straight up turn people into ash and mowing down multiple people in single shots when Protectrons with lasers were turned on protesting factory workers
Honestly if you put Fallout into 40K it honestly wouldn’t feel out of place at all
Please do Gundam vs Evangelion, particularly the positron rifle vs beam cannon. I think Gundam might be able to win via hax or if it's an Eva which requires a battery and it ran out. Otherwise Eva stomps.
Bonus: 40k Titans
Could you do a video on Downstreamers from the Manifold trilogy ?
I feel like the "10x strength augmentation" of space marine power armor isn't consistent in the lore. Ive heard people state it before and even seen where it was stated in one of the books but it just sounds so disconnected from what you see them do in the books and the like. I think it makes more sense if like the armor could lift like 10 times its own weight. But making a space marine 10 times stronger sounds odd.
Frank Horrigan could beat a space marine or maybe even a castodes
Against an unnamed space marine(given they aren't a lybrain) he does probably have pretty decent shot of winning.
Lol
Fallout power armor is not stopping a lazgun considering they don’t shoot energy they just shoot high compressions of light that is hot enough to burn through or blast through multiple layers of concrete. I can tell he does not like Warhammer.
It's not quite as relevant in pop culture as these two but have you done a comparison with RIFTS fairly confident that a SAMAS power armor would be comparable or even better than a space.marines power armor
You forgot fallout has tons of modularity on their armor 😐Falloutrmor is technically more useful because in their universe they have weapons that can easily deal with Marines😂 But overall space Marine armor is slightly better but not by much It's their physiology that does most of the work
The so-called Fallout 4 power armor, which allows for easy swapping of arms and legs, is merely a product of Bethesda's push for their gear-driven entry system and laziness, directly applying the armor mechanism. They lack any actual, explainable settings, and some explanations on the wiki are also the result of the player community attempting to justify Bethesda's design choices.Or it's to comfort oneself that the settings one cares about are still recorded in Bethesda's non-existent design documents.
You say that as if Space Marines don't have weapons that can easily deal with power armor. Bolters would go straight through it and pop inside the armor.
Warhammer armor is more comparable to frank horrigan.
Honestly for normal everyone day humans, fallout power armor all the way at least you don't need surgery in order to use it.
Also Hi Marcus hope you had a wonderful holiday
A space marine may be able to beat the average joe with his T-51 power armor, but then again, they haven't met Frank Horrigan yet
(He could turn a space marine into paste)
Space Marines Average 7ft 6in tall in standard armor.
The armor that increases their height is Tactical Dreadnought Armor aka Terminator armor. And this is an artifical increase in height via the armor’s design.
So please stop propagating the myth of the 8 to 9ft tall Space Marine in standard patterns of armor.
Also Primaris Space Marines are a different catagory of Space Marines. Are 8 to 9ft tall.
Space Marines are about Jorge-052 size only 2 inches taller. There are also 7ft tall Space Marines. Captain Titus of the Ultramarines chapter is 7ft 2in tall.
So can we stop trying to make Space Marines taller than the actually are ?
As to the power armor Space Marines armor is better than Fallout power armor.
But still let's stop boosting the height of your average Space Marine. They don't really need the boost in height.
Oh and Space Marines armor gets pierced by Bolter rounds which are 19mm rocket propelled APHE rounds. So not quite a 25mm autocannon.
what heresy is this
Space marine power armour is better in every single conceivable metric known to the human race it's not even close
Aside from cost and needing to go through a augmentation over the course of 8 years with a 99% casualty rate to get it (the process is also incredibly costly).
And Fallout power sources canonically last for far longer.
@@MarcusVance I'd argue that the augmentations and training are well worth the cost both for the effectiveness of the final product and the hundreds of years of service that the space marine provides(though this may be beyond the scope of the armor alone).
Hello
here prove fallout T-45 power armor. is able to tank multiple nukes and multi EMP blasts with no damage.
Personal log. United States Army Staff Sergeant Michael Daly. This past Saturday, October 23rd while en route to West Stockbridge, our veritbird crashed into the roof of this museum. The cause: EMP following nuclear detonation. Several, in fact. From the intel I've gathered, this was a global event. The co-pilot was killed on impact. The pilot died of his injuries a day later. Day after that, Flaherty and Kanawa were shot by some scared, desperate, survivors. Then Proznanski took off running. Haven't seen him since. Now it's my turn to go AWOL, if that concept even applies anymore. My armor's fusion core is burned out, so I guess my soldiering days are done. I'm heading to Boston, on foot, to see if my sister survived all this. She's got an apartment on Boylston Street. This is Mike Daly, signing out. Good luck. And God bless America. Or what's left of it.
i think you downplayFalloutt big time