The fact that there is already an excessive amount of demand awaiting its absorption, despite how everyone is frightened and calling the crash, is another reason why it is less likely to occur that way. 2008 saw no one, at least not the broad public, making this forecast, as I'll explain below. The ownership rate was noted to have peaked in 2004 in the other comment. Having previously peaked in the second quarter of 2020, we are currently at the median level. Between 2008 and 2012, it dropped by 3%, and by the second quarter of 2020, it had dropped from 68 to 65.
You're not doing anything wrong; the problem is that you don't have the knowledge needed to succeed in a challenging market. Only highly qualified professionals who had to experience the 2008 financial crisis could hope to earn a high salary in these challenging conditions.
@lowcostfresh2266 Actually, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention this, but I'd recommend looking up Laurel Dell Sroufe because she was a big deal in 2020. She manages my portfolio and serves as both my coach and my manager.
@@TomD226 Thank you for this tip. It was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her résumé.
If China's real estate crisis triggers a market crash or a financial crisis, it could send shockwaves through the stock markets worldwide. I’m worried about my investment of over $600K stocks. Is this a time to consider diversifying my portfolios?
Yeah, I read that China's property market accounts for a significant portion of their GDP. If it takes a hit, it might lead to reduced consumer spending and overall economic instability. I advice you consult with a professional about your investment portfolio.
Thank you for this tip. It was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her resume.
With how expensive construction, interest, maintenance, & taxation are these days. Real estate in the west is also just long term consumption masqueraded as investment opportunities for the average person. Holding property as a young person relying on debt in 2023 is so not worth it
@@davepergola 🤣🤣🤣 Of course it is great. Owning your residence is the single greatest wealth building decision you can ever make. In 2019, homeowners in the U.S. had a median net worth of $255,000, while renters had a net worth of just $6,300. That's a difference of 40x. It is obvious from your ignorant comment your net worth is in the lower of these two categories. Enjoy being poor.
⛔☢The US home and Commercial real estate is A BIGGER CONCERN since I live in the USA. Plus, US corp., consumer, federal and state DEBT IS WELL OVER $100 TRILLION DOLLARS. THAT is MORE CONCERNING than China. Since it will effect us and future generations~
It is difficult to make exact projections for the housing market as it is still unclear how quickly or to what degree the Federal Reserve will reduce inflation and borrowing costs without having a substantial negative impact on demand from consumers for anything from houses to cars.
I recently sold my home in the Boca Grande area and am considering investing a lump sum into the stock market before the anticipated rebound, couple of folks have been discussing a potential May rally, speculating on which stocks may experience substantial growth during the festive season. Do you have any insight into which stocks these might be?
I wholeheartedly concur, which is why I appreciate giving an investment coach the power of decision-making. Given their specialized expertise and education, as well as the fact that each and every one of their skills is centered on harnessing risk for its asymmetrical potential and controlling it as a buffer against certain unfavorable developments, it is practically impossible for them to underperform. I have made over 1.5 million dollars working with an investment coach for more than two years.
Well, there are a few out there who know what they are doing. I tried a few in the past years, but I’ve been with Margaret Johnson Arndt for the last five years or so, and her returns have been pretty much amazing.
I just looked her up on the internet and looked into her credentials. I wrote her a letter outlining my financial objectives and planned a call with her.
In light of the ongoing global economic crisis, it is crucial for everyone to prioritize investing in diverse sources of income that are not strongly reliant on the government. This includes exploring opportunities in stocks, gold, silver, and digital currencies. Despite the challenging economic situation, it remains a favorable time to consider these investments.
This is true. Particularly in the stock market. There are several opportunities to generate excellent returns, but such intricate transactions can only be carried out by seasoned market professionals.
Very true, I find myself lucky enough exposed to money management at an early age. Worked full time when I was 19, purchased first home at 28, fast forward time... I'm 50 now, got laid off March 2020 amidst lockdown, a blessing in disguise. At once, I consulted an advisor to stay afloat and with subsequent investments, I'm only 15% short of $1m as of today.
This is impressive. Would love to grow my reserve regardless of the economy situation, my 401k has lost everything accrued since early 2019, at this point, I'm in need of guidance, can you point me?
“CATHERINE MORRISON EVANS” is the coach that guides me, She has years of financial market experience, you can use something else but for me her strategy works hence my result. She provides entry and exit point for the securities I focus on.
Thanks for sharing, I just looked her up on the web, and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an e-mail shortly.
The bigger problem is consumer spending. There are now tens of millions of middle class Chinese people who are paying a mortgage on an apartment that is not finished, and will probably never be finished, as well as paying rent at the same time. This drastically cuts into what they can spend on other stuff, which keeps the economy low. The chinese real estate market has been a sham for 20 years, and the government looked the other way because it made GDP growth look good. The same collapse is going to happen with their EV markets where they are also scamming the GDP numbers by recycling cars to inflate sales numbers. You buy an EV, get the government subsidy, then immediately strip the battery and other expensive parts and sell them back to the car manufacturer and end up with a profit. The car manufacturer then makes, what is considered a ' new car' with the previous cars battery and sells it as a new car. This works as long as the subsidy is big enough, and there are fields of tens of thousands of new EVs that have had their batteries removed.
I'm wondering if folks who went through the '08 financial crisis had a tougher time than I am having today, my plan was to work, save money and retire at 55, but high price for everything is now an obstacle *Sigh, I look towards the stock market to fuel my goal at this point.
@@CoreyP.Adkins impressive gains! mind leaving info of your advisor please? retired and dont know where to put my money asides the bank, intended buying house but waiting for a crash perhaps
@@CoreyP.Adkins thank you for putting this out.. curiously copied and pasted her full name on my browser, spotted her site easily and skimmed through her credentials, she seems very professional
So innocent. Don't you see that speculation drives up prices and a speculation bubble, more borrowing, more speculation and you can't buy a house anymore, they go bankrupt and you pay for it via your taxes after they squirrelled off the money... Perfect!
⛔☢The US home and Commercial real estate is A BIGGER CONCERN since I live in the USA. Plus, US corp., consumer, federal and state DEBT IS WELL OVER $100 TRILLION DOLLARS. THAT is MORE CONCERNING than China. Since it will effect us and future generations~
The situation in China is MUCH different than in the rest of the world. In China, people don't have access to a stock market or crypto trading. I don't even know if you can buy silver and gold in China. The only real way to invest money is in real estate. And it was the CCP and the real estate companies they control that built these cities that nobody lives in. It served two purposes. It gave people something to invest in, and it let the CCP claim their economy was growing really fast. But now, anyone with enough money to invest in a property already has and the properties themselves are just rotting on the vine, because nobody has, or will, live in them.
Exactly. They're also deliberately removing the context of the overall state of the global economy, and how every country is struggling with immense inflationary pressures. They're acting that China's decline is somehow isolated to its own problems, and not additionally a systemic fault of everything else collapsing.
@@alexgibb8406 Do you think the stock market is the same as the economy? News flash: the stock market is just an indicator- a temperature gauge, if you will. The real pain will come when mass layoffs, bank runs and bankruptcy and deflation hit.
Going forward I don't see people being stupid enough to put down deposits on unbuilt property. So many people have been burned. And they're even expected to pay mortgages on these unbuilt properties. It's insanity.
I'll never buy a house that isn't built just like I wouldn't "pre-order" a video game that isn't finished. It's so stupid to place such faith in corporations.
I think your only choice the is to buy used homes….like used cars. I don’t think you have an option to buy new without down payment. There’s plenty of people that will pay the down payment game.
I’m confused. Why are slight dips in the real estate market always labeled as a “crisis”, whereas rising prices for real estate is always viewed as an objectively good thing? If real estate prices just kept going up forever, then you would have fewer and fewer people that can afford a housing. In my mind, it’s inevitable that there was going to be a dip in real estate, especially considering that people where buying homes before they were even build. At some point, the bubble was going to pop.
Spot on. The issue with real estate is that recently(maybe the last two decades), it's been so commoditized that people don't take that into account or refuse to believe it's not a risk-free asset. No commodity is immune to risk, but housing gets pumped so bad and it's layers of price shock is so thick, it gets this treatment.
Chinese government worries real estate bubble might busted and cause serious financial crisis, same as Japan in the past 20 year. So they make the bubble busted on purpose by themselves. This was a right decision for the country’s long run development, despite real estate will suffer in short term.
@@andresgarciacastro1783 that is what Chinese government wants to see. Let young people afford buying houses, let more capital flow to the industry rather than concrete and bricks.
Real estate is no longer a good investment. With collapsing populations, there’s nobody to create demand. Boomer wealth was mainly created by populations’ expansions. Now that trend is reversed. And by 2080, those markets will collapse worldwide.
Tofu dreg apartments. This is what happens when the people are made to buy property before it’s even built. People would’ve kept buying if developers finished the properties they sold
I live in China, the husband of my wife's friend was the head of investment for our city. He warned me three years ago that property is no longer a good investment in China.
Real estate is at its peak as salary-making populations haven't experienced the same rise in salary as a rise in housing prices. Say I made 400k a year and could afford in the past 1 million dollars houses; the same house is 2 million dollars to purchase now; there is no way my salary will go up to 800k a year to match the rise in housing price. Even with inflation, at most, my salary will go up 5% per year, and not even close to being able to afford the current housing price. More realistically, with the same 400k salary, I am only able to afford what used to cost 600k to 700k houses that are about half the size I could afford 3 years ago. What people don't realize is that not only are houses more expensive, but everything else is more expensive too, with more property tax, more insurance costs, and higher costs for everything else. Not only do things cost more, but people are also used to spending more from revenge spending habits developed post-pandemic. As you can see, even for higher middle-class earners, the market is completely broken.
Thank god for regulations. I wouldn't be surprised if for these buildings the builders cut every corner imaginable and then bribe who ever the building inspector is. People can complain all they want but businesses need regulations or we would be screwed everywhere.
Housing+education+health care should all be accessible to all citizens of each country. No country on earth should have homless people. Human morals should be well advanced with the same pace as technology.
⛔☢The US home and Commercial real estate is A BIGGER CONCERN since I live in the USA. Plus, US corp., consumer, federal and state DEBT IS WELL OVER $100 TRILLION DOLLARS. THAT is MORE CONCERNING than China. Since it will effect us and future generations~
They are accessible, you just need money to buy them. Nobody is baring you from buying any service. Keep in mind that all threes are based on others to provide services to you, if you think it should come as free, the are you working for nothings?
It’s hard to nail down specific predictions for the housing market is because it’s not yet clear how quickly or how much the Federal Reserve can bring down inflation and borrowing costs without tanking buyer demand for everything from homes to cars.
A lot of folks have been going on about the bull rally and said stocks that would be experiencing significant growth, any idea which stocks this may be? I just sold my home in the Boca Grande area and I’m looking to remunerate a lump sum into the stock market before stocks rebound, is this a good time to buy or no?
Such market uncertainties are the reason I don’t base my market judgements and decisions on rumours and here-says, got the best of me 2020 and had me holding worthless position in the market, I had to revamp my entire portfolio through the aid of a planner, before I started seeing any significant results happens in my portfolio, been using the same advisor and I’ve scaled up 750k within 2 years, whether a bullish or down market, both makes for good profit, it all depends on where you’re looking.
True, we’re only just an information away from amassing wealth, I know a lot of folks that made fortunes from the Dotcom crash as well as the 08’ crash and I’ve been looking into similar opportunities in this present market, could this coach that guides yo help?
Having a fduciary is essential for proper portfolio diversification to make gains. My advisor is LOREN LENA WALKER who is easily searchable and has extensive knowledge of the financial markets.
Thank you for this tip. it was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her résumé.
Speculation and “Investment” is the curse of human existence. Doesn’t matter the country, currency, government or religion. Empirical cultures will devour the human connection. There’s no excuse why any human (unless in a remote location) does not have access to food, clothing and shelter. Shame on the G7, G20, UN etc…
@@alanjenkins1508 No it's not. Everything is under entropy, it's part of creation no evolution. Evolution requires betterment of organism it does not exist, creation is natural life cycle.
China 🇨🇳 keeps saying its economy is fine. But in reality, its property sector, which accounts for 30% of GDP, is crashing. Exports and imports are down. The youth unemployment rate hits almost 50%. Its workforce is very old. Still, China keeps reporting outrageous numbers. Lol
I visited Changsha with my wife and son in October 2023. We live in the US and were visiting her side of the family. We took the high speed train from Hong Kong to Changsha. During the 3 hour train ride and the one hour car ride that followed, I have never seen so many cranes in a skyline erecting buildings in my life. It was everywhere you looked. People were great and food was outstanding though 👍
1) Real wages in Taiwan have stagnated for over a decade, while the cost of living has continued to rise. This has led to a decline in living standards. 2) The gap between the rich and the poor in Taiwan is widening. The top 20% of earners take home more than half of the country's income, while the bottom 20% take home less than 5%. 3) Many Taiwanese companies have moved their production overseas in search of lower costs. This has led to a decline in manufacturing jobs and a loss of tax 4) Taiwan's exports have been weak in recent years, due to a number of factors including the global slowdown and rising competition from China. 4) Taiwan's population is aging and shrinking. This will lead to a smaller workforce and a decline in domestic demand. 5) Languishing exports: Taiwan's exports have been weak in recent years, due to a number of factors including the global slowdown and rising competition from China. No thank you.
@@user-gf5dr5nq6lAre you describing China? I am glad that you listed 1 2, 3, 4. Can you compared them one by one between China and Taiwan? You'll see China is no hope.
1) real wages in china are grew 3.7 percent year-on-year , wages in taiwan grew a dwarfish 0.04 percent. 2) China is more unequal at the top but less so than a comparative country, US. Also China has a larger middle class than taiwan, poverty is higher is Taiwan. 3) Both the countries are facing issues of companies moving out, the difference is, foreign companies. are moving out of China, while Taiwanese companies are moving out of Taiwan. 4) Taiwan average age is 42.5 years, average age in China is 38.2, check WorldOMeter. By comparing all this, i see that Taiwan is far worse off. but you only see what you want to see, not stats. lmao, read, choke, and swallow. @@AhmetTekin101
Well what’s worse it that the CCP won’t let the price drop, so now they are selling the homes with gold included in the homes to offset the price. So now buyers are getting gold and selling it to pay the difference. That’s going to mess with gold values also.
I struggle to believe that china is building these houses to modern standards as the person said in the video. From my experience of hotels in china they're often build terribly and cut loada of corners. Even the 5 star hotels initially look good on the surface but doesnt take long to see loads of badly thought-out things and clear cost cutting to give an inferior product.
After comparing the prices in several videos, I noticed that China's property prices during its peak is 3 times the prices in Jakarta Indonesia (a similarly developing country), no wonder the bubble burst and the prices are decreasing by about 60% or more, almost back to Jakarta levels.😅
The Bubble and Regulatory Constrains, it is INEVITABLE Growth and Fall.China s real estate crisis have remarcable IMPACT to Global Economy, BUT NOT KEY Absolutely...❤
People will see this in Chiba and say this is why we don’t need more homes in the US missing every point. All imma say is the US needs less zoning laws and more mixed use communities
The real estate market in the past 20 years boomed, letting many people live in their new houses but also bringing big troubles and even potential crises to the current or short future because it has accumulated an unbelievable amount of debt.
All bubbles burst. I tried to say that to the Chinese I knew when I was living there. I got the reply that real estate always goes up. Nothing except taxes goes up forever🤣🤣🤣
I'm homeless but save what I would have paid in rent, into my bank. So far I have saved a house deposit, but am still unsure if I want to buy into this house of cards or buy a tiny home outright with no debt and off-grid living, I think I would enjoy the simplicity and the energy in/energy out harmony with the natural environment. If more people did this, housing demand reduces and the prices stabilise very quickly
@@rajahua6268 It's okay I would make sure I set up water infrastructure near to my home. Otherwise I am a truck driver and have a licence to drive a water truck so I could drive it there full, and run it into a storage facility onsite.
its both sad and fascinating that roughly every 10-12yrs something like this happens to the global economy. let's not forget what happened in 2008. let's just hope that things don't spiral even more out of control
Thank the guy who got a Nobel prize for saving the world in 2008. Fast forward to now and he destroyed the world with his QE and interest rate suppression.
That is totally different story in 2008. In 2008, basically the whole finical sector got involved in the scam and $uck money from other sectors. And eventually, some player in the sector think they got enough money and need to get rid of the it. Then the market collapse. But in China, the main issue are the developers. They have overly taken the risk and make themself unrecoverable. And the government just said you should not do that then the developers collapse.
This is way different than 2008. This real estate bubble is like 100x what it was in 2007 in US. Also 30% of China’s economy is real estate. Business and investment fleeing China. The ccp is making it worse making the bubble bigger. They will never fill even half of these homes they have built and the people paying the price are the regular Chinese people with no rights.
In the USA, with the FED at basically 0% interest rates, or even negative if you include inflation, money was basically free to the big banks for a long time. This encourages speculation. The FED is the cause of all this. 0% interest rates should only be used in a recession, there needs to be a cost to borrow, so wise investments are made.
The 2008 financial crisis never ended, we just kept piling up debt to delay the economic depression that is suppose to hit. The irony is China's economic woes are connected to them fueling the global economy through the 2008 crisis. They fueled global exports, when western countries were spending relatively small amounts on baleouts.
That's so clever, not to repay offshore debt. It's very much free money, and stops investments companies meddling in your internal politics. Good move China 👍 👏👏👏👏
Chinese local governments rely too heavily on the revenue from the real estate sector including but not confined to the big money from selling the land, but now it has become harder and harder for them to sell land and therefore huge shrinkage of local fiscal incomes. It is indeed a grave crisis in the making.
So who foreclothest on whom? It looks like - lenders, owners, and workers are getting killed, while these corporations escape with ill gotten gains into foreign countries without any extradiction. Classic crime. Let's forget unfinished and not started projects that have been sold. Let's look at the underlying 70 live cycle of Chinese real estate - I would not touch any property in China. Even if finished, in good quality, and occupied. My parents lived 51 years in their apartment, and no matter what - there is only 19 years left? This is not ownership, this is a boatanchor. Meaning in 19 years puff everything turns into pumpinks. This will lead to total chaos. Money gone, cars gone, infra structure gone - jobs gone, freedom you never had, your health is gone, your hopes and dreames destroyed, the lucky few who escaped are the only ones that have might have a glimmer of a future outside of total destitude
Ponzi schemes on that scale have to make an impact. Hopefully, the justified lack of trust in their pattern of collecting money far ahead of delivery will result in a better market for complete homes.
Lol china is completely sunk, they have sky rocketing youth employment rates, yet their youth population is 50 million smaller than they thought it would be. How do you have major work force shrinkage while having crazy high unemployment rates. The answer is their consumption economy has also completely collapsed. Their exports are also collapsing by 15% year after year, and it looks like the west is committed to maintaining that year after year decline.
Chinas economy is destroying. And this will reduce the dependency on china. So it's a good sign for world and good signa for small debt trapped countries
China property market is spiral out of proportion, Evergrande and Country Garden have been used by US investor like BlackRock to harm China economy by using ponzi scheme in property market building , no other contries that allow any developers building new projects before finishing previous project. So in China Evergrande and Country Garden build half done dozens of projects , this is crazy and very dengerous moves.
The fact that there is already an excessive amount of demand awaiting its absorption, despite how everyone is frightened and calling the crash, is another reason why it is less likely to occur that way. 2008 saw no one, at least not the broad public, making this forecast, as I'll explain below. The ownership rate was noted to have peaked in 2004 in the other comment. Having previously peaked in the second quarter of 2020, we are currently at the median level. Between 2008 and 2012, it dropped by 3%, and by the second quarter of 2020, it had dropped from 68 to 65.
You're not doing anything wrong; the problem is that you don't have the knowledge needed to succeed in a challenging market. Only highly qualified professionals who had to experience the 2008 financial crisis could hope to earn a high salary in these challenging conditions.
@@TomD226 Do you mind sharing info on the adviser who assisted you?
@lowcostfresh2266 Actually, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention this, but I'd recommend looking up Laurel Dell Sroufe because she was a big deal in 2020. She manages my portfolio and serves as both my coach and my manager.
@@TomD226 Thank you for this tip. It was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her résumé.
If China's real estate crisis triggers a market crash or a financial crisis, it could send shockwaves through the stock markets worldwide. I’m worried about my investment of over $600K stocks. Is this a time to consider diversifying my portfolios?
Yeah, I read that China's property market accounts for a significant portion of their GDP. If it takes a hit, it might lead to reduced consumer spending and overall economic instability. I advice you consult with a professional about your investment portfolio.
That's fascinating. How can I contact your Asset-coach as my portfolio is dwindling?
Thank you for this tip. It was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her resume.
@RobertCooper03 not the comment ad lmaooo, it does not look natural.
Houses are for living in, not speculating. Very few countries have not commoditised what should be an essential in life
Isn't it great to live in your investment vehicle?
Spoiler alert: it is not great.
Problem is Xi Jingpooh is incompetent. China was doing great when comrade Hu Jintao was in power
With how expensive construction, interest, maintenance, & taxation are these days. Real estate in the west is also just long term consumption masqueraded as investment opportunities for the average person. Holding property as a young person relying on debt in 2023 is so not worth it
@@davepergola 🤣🤣🤣 Of course it is great. Owning your residence is the single greatest wealth building decision you can ever make. In 2019, homeowners in the U.S. had a median net worth of $255,000, while renters had a net worth of just $6,300. That's a difference of 40x. It is obvious from your ignorant comment your net worth is in the lower of these two categories. Enjoy being poor.
⛔☢The US home and Commercial real estate is A BIGGER CONCERN since I live in the USA. Plus, US corp., consumer, federal and state DEBT IS WELL OVER $100 TRILLION DOLLARS. THAT is MORE CONCERNING than China. Since it will effect us and future generations~
It is difficult to make exact projections for the housing market as it is still unclear how quickly or to what degree the Federal Reserve will reduce inflation and borrowing costs without having a substantial negative impact on demand from consumers for anything from houses to cars.
I recently sold my home in the Boca Grande area and am considering investing a lump sum into the stock market before the anticipated rebound, couple of folks have been discussing a potential May rally, speculating on which stocks may experience substantial growth during the festive season. Do you have any insight into which stocks these might be?
I wholeheartedly concur, which is why I appreciate giving an investment coach the power of decision-making. Given their specialized expertise and education, as well as the fact that each and every one of their skills is centered on harnessing risk for its asymmetrical potential and controlling it as a buffer against certain unfavorable developments, it is practically impossible for them to underperform. I have made over 1.5 million dollars working with an investment coach for more than two years.
I’m intrigued by your experience. Could you possibly recommend a trustworthy advisor you've consulted with?
Well, there are a few out there who know what they are doing. I tried a few in the past years, but I’ve been with Margaret Johnson Arndt for the last five years or so, and her returns have been pretty much amazing.
I just looked her up on the internet and looked into her credentials. I wrote her a letter outlining my financial objectives and planned a call with her.
In light of the ongoing global economic crisis, it is crucial for everyone to prioritize investing in diverse sources of income that are not strongly reliant on the government. This includes exploring opportunities in stocks, gold, silver, and digital currencies. Despite the challenging economic situation, it remains a favorable time to consider these investments.
This is true. Particularly in the stock market. There are several opportunities to generate excellent returns, but such intricate transactions can only be carried out by seasoned market professionals.
Very true, I find myself lucky enough exposed to money management at an early age. Worked full time when I was 19, purchased first home at 28, fast forward time... I'm 50 now, got laid off March 2020 amidst lockdown, a blessing in disguise. At once, I consulted an advisor to stay afloat and with subsequent investments, I'm only 15% short of $1m as of today.
This is impressive. Would love to grow my reserve regardless of the economy situation, my 401k has lost everything accrued since early 2019, at this point, I'm in need of guidance, can you point me?
“CATHERINE MORRISON EVANS” is the coach that guides me, She has years of financial market experience, you can use something else but for me her strategy works hence my result. She provides entry and exit point for the securities I focus on.
Thanks for sharing, I just looked her up on the web, and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an e-mail shortly.
The bigger problem is consumer spending. There are now tens of millions of middle class Chinese people who are paying a mortgage on an apartment that is not finished, and will probably never be finished, as well as paying rent at the same time. This drastically cuts into what they can spend on other stuff, which keeps the economy low. The chinese real estate market has been a sham for 20 years, and the government looked the other way because it made GDP growth look good. The same collapse is going to happen with their EV markets where they are also scamming the GDP numbers by recycling cars to inflate sales numbers. You buy an EV, get the government subsidy, then immediately strip the battery and other expensive parts and sell them back to the car manufacturer and end up with a profit. The car manufacturer then makes, what is considered a ' new car' with the previous cars battery and sells it as a new car. This works as long as the subsidy is big enough, and there are fields of tens of thousands of new EVs that have had their batteries removed.
Well they've recently removed EV subsidies
What the hell is that halloween background music interfering with the voiceovers and the actual voice? 😅
I'm wondering if folks who went through the '08 financial crisis had a tougher time than I am having today, my plan was to work, save money and retire at 55, but high price for everything is now an obstacle *Sigh, I look towards the stock market to fuel my goal at this point.
you are not alone, I was fortunate to refinance my house at 3.5% interest fixed rate 10 years ago, and it has never increased
real estate, dividends, precious metals, etc. they are all good but none is perfect or free. its better to diversify your portfolio
@@CoreyP.Adkins impressive gains! mind leaving info of your advisor please? retired and dont know where to put my money asides the bank, intended buying house but waiting for a crash perhaps
@@CoreyP.Adkins thank you for putting this out.. curiously copied and pasted her full name on my browser, spotted her site easily and skimmed through her credentials, she seems very professional
The feeling is very similar, but todays depression is creeping and bleeding us on a prolonged agony.😔
The massive money printing is hitting the reality of productivity and finite resources.
The amount of money the Fed has printed over the years is horrifying.
@jordie4423 If this was true they would have huge inflation, but they have deflation
Housing speculation is a house of cards, whether in China or America.
America is stronger than China
So innocent. Don't you see that speculation drives up prices and a speculation bubble, more borrowing, more speculation and you can't buy a house anymore, they go bankrupt and you pay for it via your taxes after they squirrelled off the money...
Perfect!
⛔☢The US home and Commercial real estate is A BIGGER CONCERN since I live in the USA. Plus, US corp., consumer, federal and state DEBT IS WELL OVER $100 TRILLION DOLLARS. THAT is MORE CONCERNING than China. Since it will effect us and future generations~
Please if you dont want to live in suburban homes than dont. And let those who do want to live there.
The situation in China is MUCH different than in the rest of the world. In China, people don't have access to a stock market or crypto trading. I don't even know if you can buy silver and gold in China. The only real way to invest money is in real estate. And it was the CCP and the real estate companies they control that built these cities that nobody lives in. It served two purposes. It gave people something to invest in, and it let the CCP claim their economy was growing really fast.
But now, anyone with enough money to invest in a property already has and the properties themselves are just rotting on the vine, because nobody has, or will, live in them.
They don't by the land it's a 70 year lease
I love how people talk about recovery when the crash hasn’t even really started yet.
Exactly. They're also deliberately removing the context of the overall state of the global economy, and how every country is struggling with immense inflationary pressures. They're acting that China's decline is somehow isolated to its own problems, and not additionally a systemic fault of everything else collapsing.
Evergrande
I love. How u talk like u know it all . Fyi stocks has drop 70 percents and u still hasn’t call it crash😂😂😂😂
@@alexgibb8406 even if the market did drop, historically it always recovers fairly fast unless it would enter a full on depression era
@@alexgibb8406 Do you think the stock market is the same as the economy? News flash: the stock market is just an indicator- a temperature gauge, if you will. The real pain will come when mass layoffs, bank runs and bankruptcy and deflation hit.
Going forward I don't see people being stupid enough to put down deposits on unbuilt property. So many people have been burned. And they're even expected to pay mortgages on these unbuilt properties. It's insanity.
I'll never buy a house that isn't built just like I wouldn't "pre-order" a video game that isn't finished. It's so stupid to place such faith in corporations.
Ahhh you don't know people😅🤣
@gdesinord1 never underestimate the stupidity of people? U might have a point.
It's a ponzi scheme. Worst, the regulators are part of it.
I think your only choice the is to buy used homes….like used cars. I don’t think you have an option to buy new without down payment. There’s plenty of people that will pay the down payment game.
Tired of hearing about this. Nothing ever change. Nothing will change!!!
even 5 years ago they it would crash. but opposite happened.
@@redwhite_040 This time, it's definitly true, the other 15 times we said it it was wrong, but this time it's right...
I’m confused. Why are slight dips in the real estate market always labeled as a “crisis”, whereas rising prices for real estate is always viewed as an objectively good thing? If real estate prices just kept going up forever, then you would have fewer and fewer people that can afford a housing. In my mind, it’s inevitable that there was going to be a dip in real estate, especially considering that people where buying homes before they were even build. At some point, the bubble was going to pop.
It's the bias favoring incumbent homeowners over those who still need one.
Spot on. The issue with real estate is that recently(maybe the last two decades), it's been so commoditized that people don't take that into account or refuse to believe it's not a risk-free asset.
No commodity is immune to risk, but housing gets pumped so bad and it's layers of price shock is so thick, it gets this treatment.
Leverage…
It’s because we view real estate as an investment, rather than a product to be bought, sold, and consumed
Almost same one happened in Japan and is happening in S. Korea. East Asia has similar perspectives about Real Estate.
Chinese government worries real estate bubble might busted and cause serious financial crisis, same as Japan in the past 20 year. So they make the bubble busted on purpose by themselves. This was a right decision for the country’s long run development, despite real estate will suffer in short term.
They've been bursting their bubble for 2 years. Construction declined over 4% and prices 6%. They're just doing it slowly.
@@andresgarciacastro1783 that is what Chinese government wants to see. Let young people afford buying houses, let more capital flow to the industry rather than concrete and bricks.
@@wangyuzhang4013 Exdacly. I wish my country had this mentality, instead of "letting the market do whatever".
That’s why the world has been decoupling for the past 3 years so the effect in minimized
Real estate is no longer a good investment. With collapsing populations, there’s nobody to create demand.
Boomer wealth was mainly created by populations’ expansions. Now that trend is reversed. And by 2080, those markets will collapse worldwide.
It was never a good "investment" but people can wrap their heads around RE moreso than bonds and equities.
Good thing all our homes are made from wood and only last 80 years with rigorous upkeep
They should never have been considered an investment.
collapsing population? Americans are literally letting in millions of illegal mexicans by the day, How is the population collapsing?
I wonder, though, because world population has been growing regardless. It’s only the first world where population is declining.
Tofu dreg apartments. This is what happens when the people are made to buy property before it’s even built. People would’ve kept buying if developers finished the properties they sold
China has 2,4% of empty homes. The US has 9%. This is public data and you can look it up. It looks alike a lot because they're all clumpted up
The Chinese real estate ponzi just moved from China to Canada. The ponzi really never ended it just moved.
Welcome to modern finance
I live in China, the husband of my wife's friend was the head of investment for our city. He warned me three years ago that property is no longer a good investment in China.
Interesting. For what reasons?
I wrote an undergrad paper about this and my professor laughed at me. Who’s the one with the last laugh?
My biggest regret is believing in the housing crash. There is no other worthwhile investment ordinary Joe can make.
Its time that prices drop. This is idiotic to think that prices need to keep rising
Real estate is at its peak as salary-making populations haven't experienced the same rise in salary as a rise in housing prices. Say I made 400k a year and could afford in the past 1 million dollars houses; the same house is 2 million dollars to purchase now; there is no way my salary will go up to 800k a year to match the rise in housing price. Even with inflation, at most, my salary will go up 5% per year, and not even close to being able to afford the current housing price. More realistically, with the same 400k salary, I am only able to afford what used to cost 600k to 700k houses that are about half the size I could afford 3 years ago. What people don't realize is that not only are houses more expensive, but everything else is more expensive too, with more property tax, more insurance costs, and higher costs for everything else. Not only do things cost more, but people are also used to spending more from revenge spending habits developed post-pandemic. As you can see, even for higher middle-class earners, the market is completely broken.
Thank god for regulations. I wouldn't be surprised if for these buildings the builders cut every corner imaginable and then bribe who ever the building inspector is. People can complain all they want but businesses need regulations or we would be screwed everywhere.
Called "tofu dreg construction": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tofu-dreg_project
I agree 💯.
This is what you get with government planning and bureacracies running things
Housing+education+health care should all be accessible to all citizens of each country. No country on earth should have homless people. Human morals should be well advanced with the same pace as technology.
⛔☢The US home and Commercial real estate is A BIGGER CONCERN since I live in the USA. Plus, US corp., consumer, federal and state DEBT IS WELL OVER $100 TRILLION DOLLARS. THAT is MORE CONCERNING than China. Since it will effect us and future generations~
Yes comrade. More power to communism.
@@tyrant_hermit Yes Yankee. More power to TRUE DEMOCRACY! gone with US dictator regime!
They are accessible, you just need money to buy them. Nobody is baring you from buying any service. Keep in mind that all threes are based on others to provide services to you, if you think it should come as free, the are you working for nothings?
Well explained by the interviewees , its not only a decline for China but for the whole world
Another Enron and Subprime economic tsunami.
I haven't recovered from 2008 and here comes another one.
Compared to the Fed’s continuous interest rate hikes?
temporary
Not if we are insulated from China at least financially. It is doable.
Yes it will recover slowly but it will take a very long time@@dttra566
Your background music is mixed with stomach growling noises and weird things. I can't unhear it
Growth can't happen forever. Why push for so much growth so fast? Why do we push to ruin everything?
The same old story in 2010 retold, waiting to see ghost cities occupied in 10 years' time.
It’s hard to nail down specific predictions for the housing market is because it’s not yet clear how quickly or how much the Federal Reserve can bring down inflation and borrowing costs without tanking buyer demand for everything from homes to cars.
A lot of folks have been going on about the bull rally and said stocks that would be experiencing significant growth, any idea which stocks this may be? I just sold my home in the Boca Grande area and I’m looking to remunerate a lump sum into the stock market before stocks rebound, is this a good time to buy or no?
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Property values(housing costs) skyrocketed then there was a general consumer crash? 🤔
Speculation and “Investment” is the curse of human existence. Doesn’t matter the country, currency, government or religion. Empirical cultures will devour the human connection. There’s no excuse why any human (unless in a remote location) does not have access to food, clothing and shelter. Shame on the G7, G20, UN etc…
The Chinese were put on Earth to turn everyone else into a renter even doctors, lawyers and celebrities
Shame on people for having kids with no way to raise or pay for them.
We are descended from barbaric animals , can’t you tell by our behavior!
@@garyeuscher4499People doesn't believe that human came from animals. Only animals believe such idiotic beliefs.
@@codelessunlimited7701 And creationism is not an idiotic belief?
@@alanjenkins1508 No it's not. Everything is under entropy, it's part of creation no evolution. Evolution requires betterment of organism it does not exist, creation is natural life cycle.
Maybe its just me.....but building entire cities without people in them seems like a bad idea just in general........
With the number 2 global economy
Brace yourselves people.
Please cut out the jarring horrendous background music while the hosts are speaking.
China 🇨🇳 keeps saying its economy is fine. But in reality, its property sector, which accounts for 30% of GDP, is crashing.
Exports and imports are down. The youth unemployment rate hits almost 50%. Its workforce is very old.
Still, China keeps reporting outrageous numbers. Lol
and yet the West keeps taking China seriously and panicking lmao, i guess ignorance is bliss.
Been collapsing in super slow motion. Evergrande I thought according to y'all was gonna take everything down last year...
Didn't really answer the question of whether or how it will affect the global economy...
You better focus on the America’s problems than China’s. Rents in the states are completely unaffordable
Bigger question: how will it *not*?
Isn’t this old news!! Like a year or more
Hell yeah it will. Lots of Chinese also own properties in Korea, Seattle, Sydney, Bangkok...
I visited Changsha with my wife and son in October 2023. We live in the US and were visiting her side of the family. We took the high speed train from Hong Kong to Changsha. During the 3 hour train ride and the one hour car ride that followed, I have never seen so many cranes in a skyline erecting buildings in my life. It was everywhere you looked.
People were great and food was outstanding though 👍
China is facing structural issues, which can only be fixed by regime change. Taiwan 🇹🇼 can help!
1) Real wages in Taiwan have stagnated for over a decade, while the cost of living has continued to rise. This has led to a decline in living standards.
2) The gap between the rich and the poor in Taiwan is widening. The top 20% of earners take home more than half of the country's income, while the bottom 20% take home less than 5%.
3) Many Taiwanese companies have moved their production overseas in search of lower costs. This has led to a decline in manufacturing jobs and a loss of tax 4) Taiwan's exports have been weak in recent years, due to a number of factors including the global slowdown and rising competition from China.
4) Taiwan's population is aging and shrinking. This will lead to a smaller workforce and a decline in domestic demand.
5) Languishing exports: Taiwan's exports have been weak in recent years, due to a number of factors including the global slowdown and rising competition from China.
No thank you.
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@@user-gf5dr5nq6lAre you describing China?
I am glad that you listed 1 2, 3, 4. Can you compared them one by one between China and Taiwan? You'll see China is no hope.
1) real wages in china are grew 3.7 percent year-on-year , wages in taiwan grew a dwarfish 0.04 percent.
2) China is more unequal at the top but less so than a comparative country, US. Also China has a larger middle class than taiwan, poverty is higher is Taiwan.
3) Both the countries are facing issues of companies moving out, the difference is, foreign companies. are moving out of China, while Taiwanese companies are moving out of Taiwan.
4) Taiwan average age is 42.5 years, average age in China is 38.2, check WorldOMeter.
By comparing all this, i see that Taiwan is far worse off. but you only see what you want to see, not stats. lmao, read, choke, and swallow.
@@AhmetTekin101
Well what’s worse it that the CCP won’t let the price drop, so now they are selling the homes with gold included in the homes to offset the price. So now buyers are getting gold and selling it to pay the difference. That’s going to mess with gold values also.
I struggle to believe that china is building these houses to modern standards as the person said in the video. From my experience of hotels in china they're often build terribly and cut loada of corners. Even the 5 star hotels initially look good on the surface but doesnt take long to see loads of badly thought-out things and clear cost cutting to give an inferior product.
So what's the conclusion??
Stability, it is Policy,it is Known....
OMG The Sky is Falling ! *_The Sky is Falling !_* The Sky is Falling !
The whole world just got so greedy in the last couple of years. I wonder why? 🤔🙄. And it seems as though it’s all coming home to roost.
I'm sure there will be some tangential effect. The tofu-dreg situation is going to definitely make it worse the the citizens.
First guy is wrong. They don’t out a down payment on an unbuilt house. They buy the whole thing.
"Maybe that is a question you should ask Chy-na!" DJT
After comparing the prices in several videos, I noticed that China's property prices during its peak is 3 times the prices in Jakarta Indonesia (a similarly developing country), no wonder the bubble burst and the prices are decreasing by about 60% or more, almost back to Jakarta levels.😅
The Bubble and Regulatory Constrains, it is INEVITABLE Growth and Fall.China s real estate crisis have remarcable IMPACT to Global Economy, BUT NOT KEY Absolutely...❤
The chinese real estate market turned out to be a paper dragon too , go figure . If you build it the vulture funds will come .
People will see this in Chiba and say this is why we don’t need more homes in the US missing every point. All imma say is the US needs less zoning laws and more mixed use communities
Can the rent become affordable, please?
Do you mean subsidised? By whom?
@@EllieMaes-Grandad not subsidised, lower cost. I don't care if it means a major financial crisis, I can't make ends meet...
This is one year old news, China foreign reserve grew 2.1 percent third quarter of 2023. No collaps in sight.
The real estate market in the past 20 years boomed, letting many people live in their new houses but also bringing big troubles and even potential crises to the current or short future because it has accumulated an unbelievable amount of debt.
Greed. Growth. Greed. Growth.
All bubbles burst. I tried to say that to the Chinese I knew when I was living there. I got the reply that real estate always goes up. Nothing except taxes goes up forever🤣🤣🤣
做为一个中国山东人，说一说这两天售楼小姐给我打电话的内容，我这属沿海小城市，房价略高，均价每平在1万人民币左右，跟年前比略降，价格很多持平，有的最多降10%。中国出现房地产崩溃是不可能，最大因素是中国城镇化率在65%，意味着还有两亿农民进城，这是最大动力。
CNBC, didn't even once (maybe once) mentioned the demographic disaster that is happening in China.
going on AT LEAST twenty years now too
CNBC Says there are problems. Time to buy.
Went for a walk in a "Country Garden" and got mugged by a bunch of Bankers !
Crisis? Nothing more than regular market adjustments
People just don't learn, because investing your life savings into a property that will never be build, sounds pretty dumb to me.
Am i crazy or is there a mandolin playing “oriental” style music in the background? Why do US shows do this? I can’t continue to listen to it
These apartments were never bought to be lived in, only investment.
How is this going to affect market s later?
Chinese economy boom was looking like a gas baloon which can burst any time
Invest in Singapore, the government will never allow the market to tank. 90% of citizens are home owners 😊
Maybe Australia could get the Chinese to build us some houses!
Just print money, the American way ! Problem solved
the reason of collapse they claim 2nd biggest economy in the world but the salary is just the same as the 3rd world country.
I'm homeless but save what I would have paid in rent, into my bank. So far I have saved a house deposit, but am still unsure if I want to buy into this house of cards or buy a tiny home outright with no debt and off-grid living, I think I would enjoy the simplicity and the energy in/energy out harmony with the natural environment. If more people did this, housing demand reduces and the prices stabilise very quickly
I hope you make it
I will make sure you have clean water
@@rajahua6268 It's okay I would make sure I set up water infrastructure near to my home. Otherwise I am a truck driver and have a licence to drive a water truck so I could drive it there full, and run it into a storage facility onsite.
They should have been building in the Netherlands, our government is too stupid to build.
China : House not for speculation, investment or gambling but house for you live in😋😜😁
its both sad and fascinating that roughly every 10-12yrs something like this happens to the global economy. let's not forget what happened in 2008. let's just hope that things don't spiral even more out of control
Thank the guy who got a Nobel prize for saving the world in 2008. Fast forward to now and he destroyed the world with his QE and interest rate suppression.
That is totally different story in 2008. In 2008, basically the whole finical sector got involved in the scam and $uck money from other sectors. And eventually, some player in the sector think they got enough money and need to get rid of the it. Then the market collapse.
But in China, the main issue are the developers. They have overly taken the risk and make themself unrecoverable. And the government just said you should not do that then the developers collapse.
This is way different than 2008. This real estate bubble is like 100x what it was in 2007 in US. Also 30% of China’s economy is real estate. Business and investment fleeing China. The ccp is making it worse making the bubble bigger. They will never fill even half of these homes they have built and the people paying the price are the regular Chinese people with no rights.
In the USA, with the FED at basically 0% interest rates, or even negative if you include inflation, money was basically free to the big banks for a long time. This encourages speculation. The FED is the cause of all this. 0% interest rates should only be used in a recession, there needs to be a cost to borrow, so wise investments are made.
The 2008 financial crisis never ended, we just kept piling up debt to delay the economic depression that is suppose to hit. The irony is China's economic woes are connected to them fueling the global economy through the 2008 crisis. They fueled global exports, when western countries were spending relatively small amounts on baleouts.
I saw the similar problem in Vietnam of course in a smaller scale.
Ownership is no difference at the end of the day
Almost same one happened in Japan 3 decades ago and is happening in S. Korea nowadays. East Asians have similar perspectives about Real Estate.
But houses are still expensive in the big cities in Japan. The only risk is buying offplan. Just buy a finished unit with common sense.
That's so clever, not to repay offshore debt. It's very much free money, and stops investments companies meddling in your internal politics.
Good move China 👍 👏👏👏👏
Notice they have a ton of blue roofs very ironic
Of course it will,steel,oil,cement,glass,even finance industries losing their biggest consument.
Chinese local governments rely too heavily on the revenue from the real estate sector including but not confined to the big money from selling the land, but now it has become harder and harder for them to sell land and therefore huge shrinkage of local fiscal incomes. It is indeed a grave crisis in the making.
Hopefully the villagers that go paid for their land years ago didn’t spend it all
They never said anything about the question it asked, "Will China’s Real Estate Crisis Hit The Global Economy?"
America needs those ghost cities for its homeless
So who foreclothest on whom? It looks like - lenders, owners, and workers are getting killed, while these corporations escape with ill gotten gains into foreign countries without any extradiction. Classic crime. Let's forget unfinished and not started projects that have been sold. Let's look at the underlying 70 live cycle of Chinese real estate - I would not touch any property in China. Even if finished, in good quality, and occupied. My parents lived 51 years in their apartment, and no matter what - there is only 19 years left? This is not ownership, this is a boatanchor. Meaning in 19 years puff everything turns into pumpinks.
This will lead to total chaos. Money gone, cars gone, infra structure gone - jobs gone, freedom you never had, your health is gone, your hopes and dreames destroyed, the lucky few who escaped are the only ones that have might have a glimmer of a future outside of total destitude
Ponzi schemes on that scale have to make an impact. Hopefully, the justified lack of trust in their pattern of collecting money far ahead of delivery will result in a better market for complete homes.
Lol china is completely sunk, they have sky rocketing youth employment rates, yet their youth population is 50 million smaller than they thought it would be. How do you have major work force shrinkage while having crazy high unemployment rates. The answer is their consumption economy has also completely collapsed. Their exports are also collapsing by 15% year after year, and it looks like the west is committed to maintaining that year after year decline.
Chinas economy is destroying. And this will reduce the dependency on china.
So it's a good sign for world and good signa for small debt trapped countries
China property market is spiral out of proportion, Evergrande and Country Garden have been used by US investor like BlackRock to harm China economy by using ponzi scheme in property market building , no other contries that allow any developers building new projects before finishing previous project. So in China Evergrande and Country Garden build half done dozens of projects , this is crazy and very dengerous moves.
you will not make them if there is no profit. it's not necessary humans will live in them
What about our unfordable Real Estate crisis??????????
Lose the insipid background "music". It does nothing to enhance what you're trying to say and the bass is just annoying
Heard they are moving to Malaysia.170bil.excitef.waiting for realization..Forest City is doing well.more will be moving to johore next year...