If you spell out Mrs as Mistress, the name Mistress Flood is an anagram for footsoldiers (with an extra O) and loosestrifes (with an extra E). A footsoldier being comparable to a harbinger and Loosestrife (the name of a plant), well, containing the word strife, another word for discord.
It doesn’t make sense that Mrs Flood would be Susan when the actress who originally played her is still very much alive. Replacing her with someone new would really make fans angry.
In the proms, she said something along the lines of "outer space villain in disguise" She seemed to be trying to convince the audience it was her name In Time and the Rani she disguises herself as Mel She had a hatred for other time lords ever since she was banished, and she doesn't like Ruby or the Doctor according to her appearance at the proms When 15 describes Time Lord names, he mentions the Rani I'm starting to think she's the Rani
I think she's a future version of the TARDIS. She knows so much about the Doctor, she wears old companions' clothes, her suitcase has stickers of placed the TARDIS has been. She knew Sutek was coming.
A thought in favor of it being Susan is that Russell told us in the 60th Anniversary that Timelords get an old face back when they "need to go home". Perhaps Mrs. Flood "dies" but then regenerates into Carol Anne Ford?
Loved it Joe! So, ever since Christmas 2023, I have been convinced she is the White Guardian from classic doctor who. She has an incredible amount of awareness, she often wears the color white, and who better to watch over Ruby her entire life than a guardian. Now, a lot of people may have missed this line, but I think it's important. In the Giggle, when the toymaker is boasting after the doctors challenge him to a game, he says he shrank the guardians of time into voodoo dolls. Now much of what the toymaker did was reversed when he was banished from existence like charlie no longer being a marionette. Who's to say that's why they didn't stop the time war, and now are back? Another thing, maybe Mrs. Flood isn't just the white guardian, but also the black guardian. She seems lovely in Church on Ruby Road, and the rooftop scene of Empire of Death, but in 73 yards and Legend of Ruby Sunday she give off abrasive or rude vibes. The episodes where she's nice she is wearing white, in the episodes she is rude, she is wearing darker clothes. Perhaps the white guardian originated the disguise of Mrs. Flood, but the Black Guardian is also her as well at times! That's enough. I'm starting to go off the deep end. Ta!
I came her to say this! If the many coloured Guardians are a thing . . . according to the Toymaker (not just Black and White) then the Doctor - as the Timeless Child - could be explained as being the Red Guardian aka a Great Old One from the previoius universe. The White Guardian has a history that is connected to the Doctor, having protected the First Doctor when he stole the TARDIS, and helping the Second Doctor find his flute at a crucial moment in The Three Doctors, so being close to the Doctor (as Mrs. Flood) currently is not out of character. Also, the White Guardian has been described by the Doctor as a fascist-leaning "lesser of two evils" whose concept of Peace and Order involves reducing freedom . . . "I had such plans . . ."
To support the Susan theory: I’ve been stuck on her name being Flood which could go along with River and Pond and somehow or time River had a baby by the Doctor and then another generation and there’s the granddaughter who could regenerate into the real actress. To put out a flimsy theory: Since RTD already used an anagram we thought of “Old Forms” for Mrs Flood. That could refer to old companions since she’s wore some similar outfits?
I'd say she's River Song. The "Flood" -> "River" name connection, the fact that she's married, her calling the Doctor "Clever Boy", the Darillium sticker on her suitcase, the way she says she's "hiding herself away" like the Doctor says Time Lords do, the lingering question of what happened to her post-Forest of the Dead now that we know genetically pure Time Lords don't have a regeneration limit... too much evidence to ignore!!!
A few months back, I attended a local Doctor Who event and basically the first question I was asked was: "Who do you think Mrs. Flood is?" It has the fandom engaged, so that's great.
I always imagined her being linked / being the God of the Land of Fiction. It's also got some links back to Space Babies as that whole episode revolves around the babies being fed the stories of the Bogeyman, and that maybe Mrs Flood is the Master / God of the land of fiction, and she's able to break the 4th wall because of this.
I’ve been playing around with an anagram for a while that could have some meaning: OLD FORMS Could be a nod to another pantheon, perhaps the OLDEST FORM of GOD? Just a thought.
Or another idea following the “Never seen a Tardis before” line. Perhaps Mrs Flood’ s “OLD FORM’S” is a physical manifestation of another time lord’s (the Master’s) tardis!?!?!
I think Ms Flood is ‘The Boss’ referred to by the Meep and Rogue… Maestro is god of music Toymaker is god of games Trickster is god of tricks Flood is god of stories The characters serving ‘the boss’ don’t actually know Ms Floods intentions… but essentially they are amusing themselves and the other gods by controlling the doctors story… Flood keeps introducing new plot points and new stories (like a love interest in the form of rogue, returning characters thanks to the meep - I know ms flood wasn’t in the specials, but assuming she IS the boss then she was referenced)… could also explain the appearance of the Shalka doctor and the disregard for any kind of canon or continuity. Flood can break the fourth wall and has seen all these other stories that exist outside the main timeline. The return of old villain sutekh also makes more sense… the memory TARDIS is practically made up of stories. Looking ahead, it could be a cool way to explain why Varada Seth’s is now the companion… the god of stories is just recasting! Doubt it… but a few ideas!
I'm kind of hoping that the same RTD who put the Shalka Doctor on our screens and gave us a Star Beast adaptation is doing a deeper lore pull. I think it'd be fun if she's Iris Wildthyme. I also recently read the 8th Doctor book "The City of the Dead", which has a mysterious and powerful character called Mrs. Flood, so that'd be a massively obscure but really cool reveal. Of course, the other obvious answer is that she's simply the God of Water
I think the biggest clue as to who Mrs Flood is the one thing everyone seems to be ignoring, she didn’t know that the police box was a Tardis and she didn’t know who The Doctor was a part from being a Time Lord.
@@charlesallanstewart-kl2op Of course I know she knows what a Tardis is, but she doesn’t know that the Doctor’s Tardis was a Tardis because it was disguised as an old police box. If she knew who the Doctor was, then she would immediately assume that the magically appearing police box was a Tardis, but as she hasn’t met the Doctor before she didn’t know that the police box was a Tardis until it dematerialised (which is what I was saying originally).
I love the idea that IF it is Susan she is now bitter towards the doctor and potentially even hates him and could be an antagonist. rather than acting like everything's fine after he abandoned her for so long.
Susan would have recognized the policebox as a Tardis. I think Mrs Flood is Ada Gillyflower From Crimson Horror . Ada an Missy both had the same reaction after holding the doctors hand, so Ada was definitely a hiding timelord with memory loss 1n 1893. ' Never seen a Tardis before. ' Is not a question, its a statement. Ada was blind in 'the crimson horror ' that is why mrs Flood only recognized policebox as the Tardis after it made the Tardis sound when departing infront of her. (mr sweet-> diabetes, hip opreation-> fall down the stairs, death by ulcer-> mr sweet was stuck to ada's mother sucking salt through an open wound. And Ada killed it when she was not looking, because she was blind. Mrs Floods is a timelady, her plans for the planet probably involve creating a perfect world like Winifred Gillyflower was working on. And her symbiotic partner in crime: the Great Intelligence and using memory snow. And she is somehow connected to Missy, because the 3 things mrs Flood says on the snowy rooftop are words said by Missy: ruthles(ly), the traveler in time and space -quote and night night.
Great video and theories. The only random thought I had that is probably way off base is the following. In the Flux storyline, Time is depicted as a sentient force, capable of taking on a physical form and communicating. Is Russell bringing that back as we know he wants to validate the stories etc from the Chibnall era. But I think it will have probably something to do with Susan and Rani...as you said the names are being dropped in episodes.
Idk could Mrs. Flood be the reason for everything that has been happening since "the salt" episode after which magical things have been happening. Since her first fourth wall break i have been thinking she could be somekind of "great narrator" or goddes of stories kind of being, who got bored or something and wanted to have fun by messing up the world/the doctor and causing these events. The line "i had such plans" kind of would match that, and the plans were other fancy way of having fun at the cost of the doctor's time. Or then she has something against the doctor and this is kind of "long revenge". Maybe she is someone from the doctor's forgotten past, if not a god.
Considering in Rememberance of the Daleks, it was teased that the tvshow Dr Who exists in the Dr who universe. Still calling Mrs Flood as being the In Universe Verity Lambert.
The reason i said Female loki. Is that Russell t Davis talked about the mcu when he returned to dr who. Loki become the god of stories. There is a fair tale element rtd second era. Sci fiction, 1960s tale , welsh folk tale, futuristic tale, social media tale. Bridgeterton tale. Goblin tale, political tale, return of the former vanquished villain tale
Why does nobody ever mention what she said while standing by Ruby's grandmother's window early on in the season finale when making these sorts of conjectures?
I’m not overthinking who she is because of the so many amazing stories the last season could have been and we got nothing, no answers, stupid reveals. If she’s not Rassilon I’m not bothered.
I am quite jealous that we don't really have these Doctor Who events here in the US and when they do happen are generally quite far away and difficult to attend.
The idea that she could be river"s daughter is certainly plausible. Which could make her Susan"s mother. I hope not, it's pretty messed around for no good reason. Personally, I still think black guardian if she is anyone the doctor has met before. Even that has holes though, so she may well be new but not the baddie of the finale.
I think she is the ' RANI ' not the ' Master ' as a lot of you guys are thinking , so that makes her a Time Lord / Lady 🤔😲😳 So guy's what do you think ??
Mrs Flood is a re-embodiment of Angie Watts that emerged from Dimensions in Time, a fevered dream the Doctor was having. A facet of the Doctor himself emerged into reality when the Doctor blew the mind of the Matrix. Giving rise to the entity which has been known as the Valeyard who became the Master of the Land of Fiction and the god of all stories with his power enhanced and his knowledge of the Timeless Child returned he realised that he didn't need the Doctor's future regenerations as he had an unlimited number himself. Taking on the guise of an elderly Angie Watts she came to Earth in hiding until she crossed paths with the Doctor again. Formerly known as the Dreamlord she is now the quirky antagonist of the Doctor Who universe.
I've theorized that Mrs. Flood is Susan as well. The only reason I may hold back on that is because it's not the original actress, who had shown interest in coming back to play the role. If she had come back though, there could be a passing of the torch by showing her regenerate into Mrs. Flood.
with sutek being attached to the tardis maybe he needed a 3rd party to set up these scenarios to lure the doctor and ruby into a trap knowing that the persuit to find rubys mother would always bring them to where they need to be.
I like the idea of Susan being Mrs Flood. The Doctor never actually gets to interact directly with her. Maybe that's by design. Maybe Susan could be The Boss, who has an interest in two-hearted beings. The subject of abandonment is a big theme also.
PLOT TWIST: MRS. FLOOD IS RUSSELL T. DAVIES! The one who has such great plans, but can't always make them happen (seriously, even Disney has their limits), the one who puts the Doctor in terrible danger and relishes in it. The one who talks to the viewer directly in behind the scenes footage. Do I need to say more?
I think with all this god pantheon angle, yhis can be used to substantiate what the doctor exactly is. I think mrs.flood could be janus, a god of TIME, CHANGE, AND TRANSITION. Potentially parent of the doctor. Seeing he came from another dimension that tells me that there are others like him. The doctor has always showed amazing feets of special powers you haven't seen from other timelords. Like slowing down time to walk through that fan in the first series, being able to see others' memories and have others look at his . Psychic paper. Being able to heal injuries with regeneration energy, which also implies that any substantial injuries that wont result in death hes able to heal. Transfer memories to all of his lives to save gallefry etc. I tgink this or something along the lines of it can help the series
I completely forgot until I saw this, but The Rani does have an established history of wearing same clothing as the Doctor's companions, because she pretended to be Mel for awhile after the seventh doctor regenerated.
I'm convinced that it's Susan who because of the Doctor's god hood is a sort of a demi god herself. She also has had dealings with other gods in the time between her travels with the doctor and now. How many Millennia older must she be now.
Ah I just had a thought, she's Jenny. The doctor's daughter and maybe just maybe Susan's mother. Except she went in search of the doctor or something else and found the pantheon instead. I mean the doctor hints Susan is from his future meaning she travelled back to be with her grandfather but for what reason? I mean if she came up with the acronym for TARDIS then she must have travelled through time somehow. Maybe manipulating events either against or in service of her mother. Anyway i'm waffling.
Hi 👋 from Ohio! Why the choice of the Romana white “fur” coat. You’re right, Flood was kind of sinister with Ruby’s Grandmother, I think, in the finale. I don’t think she’s Susan, since Caroline Ford is still alive and ready to go!
I'll tell you what I think, as an American 😎👍I think RTD is a plot fisherman 😎I think he knew he was coming in cold, and wanted to plant a whole bunch of seeds, just to see what interested the modern fan base, and decided he'd develop them later based on interest😉👍so any of your theories could be right, he's been waiting to see what fish are biting in the pond😉👍
Two theories: 1) Mrs Flood is the Oh God of Bad Endings. 2) Mrs Flood is the mother of the Timeless Child (and knows full well The Master is the Timeess Child, not the Doctor)
Honestly, I'm really tired of all the ''Gods''. Back when Sarah Jane Adventures introduced the Trickster, the Pantheon was very mysterious and scary as a concept, but the Maestro and Sutekh don't live up to former standards, in my opinion. As much as I enjoyed Maestro, I feel like Russel relies too heavily on the ''it's a god, idk, deal with it'' explanation for the superpowered world bending characters. When we first learnt that this new era would be more ''supernatural or fantastical'' after the sprinkling of salt or whatever, I was excited, but in series 14 every time (except 73 Yards) the explanation for the supernatural is ''it's a god of [insert specialisation]''. So if Mrs. Flood turns out to be yet another god, it's going to be very disappointing to me. It's feels lazy on Russel's part. If, on the other hand, she turns out to be Susan or Fake Susan or Rani or Missy, that I would find very exciting. I am hoping :D Edit: Final thought: I just want less 1 dimensional gods and more stuff like the fairies from Torchwood heh.
Adipose, you forgot about one theory. What if she is something like 2nd regeneration of Lumiat or cannonised Lumiat? I know it's Big Finish (probably not cannon to the TV/Disney series), but... It suits Lumiat (good Master) personality soo well. After the story with Missy, Lumiat fells to the Earth, while regenerating and she decide to regenerate into nice, kind, funny, sweet (but still misterious) old lady, who have aura of "grandma" or "old auntie" or just "nice old lady, from neightborhood.". Remember that she knows about Doctor's companions, due to Master's memories, she was obsessed with finding The Doctor and joining him (what suit with wearing like Doctor's past companions and people he meet before + Missy had umbrella too) and she was in Doctor's TARDIS before as Missy. And... you know, Mistress/Misses Flood/Missy. Coincidence? I don't think so. If I will meet this actress myself during playing Miss. Flood, I will ask her if she is Lumiat?
There's a strong argument for Big Finish being 'cannon' because in 'Night of the Doctor', Paul McGann's Doctor name-checks some of his Big Finish companions before he regenerates.
Random thought putting out there. Prepare. lol. Last night I rewatched dark water and death in heaven. And after hearing missy tell capapdi she was the woman in the shop which we all know got me thinking tho. Watch it back Clara never once recognises missy as the woman in the shop. And also when missy impersonates the line “best number in the universe love” line she does it in a kinda east end cockney accent. A accent similar to mrs flood. Got me thinking as we don’t know the master regeneration order what if mars flood is the master and came after John simm and then becomes missy. Or something around the lines. Watch the clip back guys it’s maybe just me over looking things lol. Also thought tho with one of floods outfits being almost identical to one of Clara’s outfits I think from fave the raven. Russell maybe setting little clues. Also could mrs flood have picked up the tooth containing the master to release herself alternate timelines? Could we have another multi master story maybe this time with missy and flood. Also could FLOOD spell out F- friend / female L- lover O- of O- our D- doctor lol clutching at straws with the last bit
What if she is the god of stories and the doctor 's real blood related some way ,after all why the TC revealation , whatever maybe she is evil and abandoned the doctor for a reason ,i hope Russell planning that if its not with flood with a new unknown character ,(maybe after gatwa s finale or post gatwa)
She could be entirely someone different some other new character my theory is she's a Time Lord why does she have to be a familiar character? If she turns out to be the Master again or another unknown incarnation of the Doctor I'll be done with this show. I certainly hope its not Susan its a character from over 60 years ago i think people really need to let that character go and leave her be in Classic Who. It's certainly not the Rani because they don't have the rights to the character and even if they did it would be be too obvious also the Rani is not interested in humans other than experiments so why would she waste her time. To tell you the truth I'm kind of getting tired of hints, twists and turns and fanfiction all up I just want RTD to stop being clever and just write good stories and write his own damn characters rather than reusing someone elses creations and trying to modernise and ruin them for his own agenda and needs.
My personal one was purely because of Anita Dobson's Comic Con comment, "Finally, I know where I'm from" The Doctor doesn't know where they are from. It would be a Timeless Children tie-in. Maybe Ms Flood is from the Doctor's original planet ...
I’d like to wager a guess that she is the white guardian and that she is purposely passing herself off as human to look out for The Doctor and Ruby as she may know that something terrible is on the way which is what I am hoping will be the case in season 2 and I think this might lead into us seeing the black guardian come back or finally see whoever it is that Mrs Flood as The White Guardian is keeping The Doctor and Ruby safe from.
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It’s definitely an anagram. Her name is actually Mrs Dofol
'Miss'd, fool!' Quoth the Russell
If you spell out Mrs as Mistress, the name Mistress Flood is an anagram for footsoldiers (with an extra O) and loosestrifes (with an extra E). A footsoldier being comparable to a harbinger and Loosestrife (the name of a plant), well, containing the word strife, another word for discord.
It doesn’t make sense that Mrs Flood would be Susan when the actress who originally played her is still very much alive. Replacing her with someone new would really make fans angry.
Given the recent rumours too, I don’t think she’s Susan.
Unless they have an episode in the next season where the actress who played susan regenerates into Mrs Flood
Yeah tbh it makes since after sll this time she would regenerate at least once
I do understand that. Why replace the original when the original is still around?
@@BoothBoy29 Regenerating Susan is a possibility, but only after giving Carole Ann Ford one last outing.
In the proms, she said something along the lines of "outer space villain in disguise"
She seemed to be trying to convince the audience it was her name
In Time and the Rani she disguises herself as Mel
She had a hatred for other time lords ever since she was banished, and she doesn't like Ruby or the Doctor according to her appearance at the proms
When 15 describes Time Lord names, he mentions the Rani
I'm starting to think she's the Rani
I'm convinced when the BBC tweeted "is that the Meep's fur?" in regard to the season 1 finale outfit, that it wasn't a joke...
I agree! I think she's the Meep's boss.
After Ruby’s mum…… I’d say mrs flood is in fact Julie who runs Ruby’s local chip shop
I think she's a future version of the TARDIS. She knows so much about the Doctor, she wears old companions' clothes, her suitcase has stickers of placed the TARDIS has been. She knew Sutek was coming.
A thought in favor of it being Susan is that Russell told us in the 60th Anniversary that Timelords get an old face back when they "need to go home". Perhaps Mrs. Flood "dies" but then regenerates into Carol Anne Ford?
Loved it Joe! So, ever since Christmas 2023, I have been convinced she is the White Guardian from classic doctor who. She has an incredible amount of awareness, she often wears the color white, and who better to watch over Ruby her entire life than a guardian. Now, a lot of people may have missed this line, but I think it's important. In the Giggle, when the toymaker is boasting after the doctors challenge him to a game, he says he shrank the guardians of time into voodoo dolls. Now much of what the toymaker did was reversed when he was banished from existence like charlie no longer being a marionette. Who's to say that's why they didn't stop the time war, and now are back? Another thing, maybe Mrs. Flood isn't just the white guardian, but also the black guardian. She seems lovely in Church on Ruby Road, and the rooftop scene of Empire of Death, but in 73 yards and Legend of Ruby Sunday she give off abrasive or rude vibes. The episodes where she's nice she is wearing white, in the episodes she is rude, she is wearing darker clothes. Perhaps the white guardian originated the disguise of Mrs. Flood, but the Black Guardian is also her as well at times! That's enough. I'm starting to go off the deep end. Ta!
I came her to say this! If the many coloured Guardians are a thing . . . according to the Toymaker (not just Black and White) then the Doctor - as the Timeless Child - could be explained as being the Red Guardian aka a Great Old One from the previoius universe. The White Guardian has a history that is connected to the Doctor, having protected the First Doctor when he stole the TARDIS, and helping the Second Doctor find his flute at a crucial moment in The Three Doctors, so being close to the Doctor (as Mrs. Flood) currently is not out of character. Also, the White Guardian has been described by the Doctor as a fascist-leaning "lesser of two evils" whose concept of Peace and Order involves reducing freedom . . . "I had such plans . . ."
The ' Black Guardian '
interesting concept
errmm not the White
One she was nasty. !
Mrs Flood is a space/time reporter that floods the airwaves with news of events around the Doctor's travels. She's also his biggest fan.
So the doctor's version of batmite? That would be anticlimactic
I think she is a personification of "Time" itself.
Wasn't 13 warned that "Time" was coming for her?
To support the Susan theory: I’ve been stuck on her name being Flood which could go along with River and Pond and somehow or time River had a baby by the Doctor and then another generation and there’s the granddaughter who could regenerate into the real actress.
To put out a flimsy theory: Since RTD already used an anagram we thought of “Old Forms” for Mrs Flood. That could refer to old companions since she’s wore some similar outfits?
I'd say she's River Song. The "Flood" -> "River" name connection, the fact that she's married, her calling the Doctor "Clever Boy", the Darillium sticker on her suitcase, the way she says she's "hiding herself away" like the Doctor says Time Lords do, the lingering question of what happened to her post-Forest of the Dead now that we know genetically pure Time Lords don't have a regeneration limit... too much evidence to ignore!!!
I think she is John Lennon
A few months back, I attended a local Doctor Who event and basically the first question I was asked was: "Who do you think Mrs. Flood is?"
It has the fandom engaged, so that's great.
I always imagined her being linked / being the God of the Land of Fiction. It's also got some links back to Space Babies as that whole episode revolves around the babies being fed the stories of the Bogeyman, and that maybe Mrs Flood is the Master / God of the land of fiction, and she's able to break the 4th wall because of this.
I do think we’ve been in some sort of land of fiction since at least Mavity
2:58 - Mrs Flood appears to have visited Paradise Towers. Maybe she's "the great architect" or maybe not.
I’ve been playing around with an anagram for a while that could have some meaning: OLD FORMS
Could be a nod to another pantheon, perhaps the OLDEST FORM of GOD?
Just a thought.
Or another idea following the “Never seen a Tardis before” line. Perhaps Mrs Flood’ s “OLD FORM’S” is a physical manifestation of another time lord’s (the Master’s) tardis!?!?!
Although RTD has said he is “parking” any Master storylines, he never said anything about his TARDIS. 😉
I so want Ms. Flood to really be the Rani
I think Ms Flood is ‘The Boss’ referred to by the Meep and Rogue…
Maestro is god of music
Toymaker is god of games
Trickster is god of tricks
Flood is god of stories
The characters serving ‘the boss’ don’t actually know Ms Floods intentions… but essentially they are amusing themselves and the other gods by controlling the doctors story… Flood keeps introducing new plot points and new stories (like a love interest in the form of rogue, returning characters thanks to the meep - I know ms flood wasn’t in the specials, but assuming she IS the boss then she was referenced)… could also explain the appearance of the Shalka doctor and the disregard for any kind of canon or continuity. Flood can break the fourth wall and has seen all these other stories that exist outside the main timeline. The return of old villain sutekh also makes more sense… the memory TARDIS is practically made up of stories. Looking ahead, it could be a cool way to explain why Varada Seth’s is now the companion… the god of stories is just recasting! Doubt it… but a few ideas!
I'm kind of hoping that the same RTD who put the Shalka Doctor on our screens and gave us a Star Beast adaptation is doing a deeper lore pull. I think it'd be fun if she's Iris Wildthyme. I also recently read the 8th Doctor book "The City of the Dead", which has a mysterious and powerful character called Mrs. Flood, so that'd be a massively obscure but really cool reveal. Of course, the other obvious answer is that she's simply the God of Water
I’ve been waiting to see someone else mention Iris Wildthyme! I think it’s her.
I think the biggest clue as to who Mrs Flood is the one thing everyone seems to be ignoring, she didn’t know that the police box was a Tardis and she didn’t know who The Doctor was a part from being a Time Lord.
@@owntmpsn errr , l think
she knows very well what a
TARDIS is , didn't you see
' ruby road ' if not go back
& Look ( a really big Clue )
@@charlesallanstewart-kl2op Of course I know she knows what a Tardis is, but she doesn’t know that the Doctor’s Tardis was a Tardis because it was disguised as an old police box. If she knew who the Doctor was, then she would immediately assume that the magically appearing police box was a Tardis, but as she hasn’t met the Doctor before she didn’t know that the police box was a Tardis until it dematerialised (which is what I was saying originally).
I love the idea that IF it is Susan she is now bitter towards the doctor and potentially even hates him and could be an antagonist. rather than acting like everything's fine after he abandoned her for so long.
I reckon it's the Rani. Flood-Rain-Rani, right? Equally an evil susan would be AMAZING.
Really left field but what if Mrs Flood is River Song? The name is in keeping with the Melody POND / RIVER Song water theme.
Whatever we think of her, we've all been FOOLD.....
Susan would have recognized the policebox as a Tardis. I think
Mrs Flood is Ada Gillyflower From Crimson Horror . Ada an Missy both had the same reaction after holding the doctors hand, so Ada was definitely a hiding timelord with memory loss 1n 1893. ' Never seen a Tardis before. ' Is not a question, its a statement. Ada was blind in 'the crimson horror ' that is why mrs Flood only recognized policebox as the Tardis after it made the Tardis sound when departing infront of her. (mr sweet-> diabetes, hip opreation-> fall down the stairs, death by ulcer-> mr sweet was stuck to ada's mother sucking salt through an open wound. And Ada killed it when she was not looking, because she was blind. Mrs Floods is a timelady, her plans for the planet probably involve creating a perfect world like Winifred Gillyflower was working on. And her symbiotic partner in crime: the Great Intelligence and using memory snow. And she is somehow connected to Missy, because the 3 things mrs Flood says on the snowy rooftop are words said by Missy: ruthles(ly), the traveler in time and space -quote and night night.
Theory: Mrs Flood a far future re-generation of the Doctor or who the Doctor was before stealing the Tardis.
i think she is incensor the god of disaster hence how she knew about Sutekh
Great video and theories. The only random thought I had that is probably way off base is the following.
In the Flux storyline, Time is depicted as a sentient force, capable of taking on a physical form and communicating. Is Russell bringing that back as we know he wants to validate the stories etc from the Chibnall era.
But I think it will have probably something to do with Susan and Rani...as you said the names are being dropped in episodes.
I've been looking forward to learning more about mrs. flood but now i more want to see maestro return for a queen episode with a mrs. flood cameo
also, even if she saves the universe she's still somewhat evil for refusing to make that cuppa
If she’s Susan she better take off a mask later and be Carole Ann Ford or else we riot. I say she’s the watcher or a pre-Hartnell Doctor
“Let’s see who you really are”
*pulls off rubber mask*
“SUSAN!!?”
Going back to Ramana 1 ,what if she is a Guardian ,Black or White or even where Disney is involved (Star Wars) a Grey Guardian
Maybe she's The Boss. The actress who played Susan is still alive and available so she can't be Susan.
Idk could Mrs. Flood be the reason for everything that has been happening since "the salt" episode after which magical things have been happening. Since her first fourth wall break i have been thinking she could be somekind of "great narrator" or goddes of stories kind of being, who got bored or something and wanted to have fun by messing up the world/the doctor and causing these events. The line "i had such plans" kind of would match that, and the plans were other fancy way of having fun at the cost of the doctor's time.
Or then she has something against the doctor and this is kind of "long revenge". Maybe she is someone from the doctor's forgotten past, if not a god.
Considering in Rememberance of the Daleks, it was teased that the tvshow Dr Who exists in the Dr who universe. Still calling Mrs Flood as being the In Universe Verity Lambert.
The reason i said Female loki. Is that Russell t Davis talked about the mcu when he returned to dr who. Loki become the god of stories. There is a fair tale element rtd second era. Sci fiction, 1960s tale , welsh folk tale, futuristic tale, social media tale. Bridgeterton tale. Goblin tale, political tale, return of the former vanquished villain tale
Why does nobody ever mention what she said while standing by Ruby's grandmother's window early on in the season finale when making these sorts of conjectures?
I’m not overthinking who she is because of the so many amazing stories the last season could have been and we got nothing, no answers, stupid reveals. If she’s not Rassilon I’m not bothered.
I am quite jealous that we don't really have these Doctor Who events here in the US and when they do happen are generally quite far away and difficult to attend.
Mrs. Flood is The White Guardian.
Flood - River - Pond. Could there be a connection?
The idea that she could be river"s daughter is certainly plausible. Which could make her Susan"s mother. I hope not, it's pretty messed around for no good reason.
Personally, I still think black guardian if she is anyone the doctor has met before. Even that has holes though, so she may well be new but not the baddie of the finale.
she Jenny the Doctors Daughter aka Susan mum
I think she is the ' RANI ' not the
' Master ' as a lot of you guys
are thinking , so that makes her a
Time Lord / Lady 🤔😲😳
So guy's what do you think ??
Mrs Flood is a re-embodiment of Angie Watts that emerged from Dimensions in Time, a fevered dream the Doctor was having. A facet of the Doctor himself emerged into reality when the Doctor blew the mind of the Matrix. Giving rise to the entity which has been known as the Valeyard who became the Master of the Land of Fiction and the god of all stories with his power enhanced and his knowledge of the Timeless Child returned he realised that he didn't need the Doctor's future regenerations as he had an unlimited number himself. Taking on the guise of an elderly Angie Watts she came to Earth in hiding until she crossed paths with the Doctor again. Formerly known as the Dreamlord she is now the quirky antagonist of the Doctor Who universe.
I was wondering would the whole Susan Foreman, Tardis thing, cause the whole legal issue with the Unearthly child again?
I've theorized that Mrs. Flood is Susan as well. The only reason I may hold back on that is because it's not the original actress, who had shown interest in coming back to play the role. If she had come back though, there could be a passing of the torch by showing her regenerate into Mrs. Flood.
Am I alone in thinking Mrs Flood is the new Master? She certainly know more than other characters so far revealed..
with sutek being attached to the tardis maybe he needed a 3rd party to set up these scenarios to lure the doctor and ruby into a trap knowing that the persuit to find rubys mother would always bring them to where they need to be.
I like the idea of Susan being Mrs Flood. The Doctor never actually gets to interact directly with her. Maybe that's by design. Maybe Susan could be The Boss, who has an interest in two-hearted beings. The subject of abandonment is a big theme also.
PLOT TWIST: MRS. FLOOD IS RUSSELL T. DAVIES!
The one who has such great plans, but can't always make them happen (seriously, even Disney has their limits), the one who puts the Doctor in terrible danger and relishes in it. The one who talks to the viewer directly in behind the scenes footage. Do I need to say more?
I think with all this god pantheon angle, yhis can be used to substantiate what the doctor exactly is. I think mrs.flood could be janus, a god of TIME, CHANGE, AND TRANSITION. Potentially parent of the doctor. Seeing he came from another dimension that tells me that there are others like him. The doctor has always showed amazing feets of special powers you haven't seen from other timelords. Like slowing down time to walk through that fan in the first series, being able to see others' memories and have others look at his . Psychic paper. Being able to heal injuries with regeneration energy, which also implies that any substantial injuries that wont result in death hes able to heal. Transfer memories to all of his lives to save gallefry etc.
I tgink this or something along the lines of it can help the series
I completely forgot until I saw this, but The Rani does have an established history of wearing same clothing as the Doctor's companions, because she pretended to be Mel for awhile after the seventh doctor regenerated.
Wild guess What if its Wilfred Mott special Friend 😂😂
I'm convinced that it's Susan who because of the Doctor's god hood is a sort of a demi god herself. She also has had dealings with other gods in the time between her travels with the doctor and now. How many Millennia older must she be now.
A Flood can create a Pond or be formed from a broken River?
Heard those names before?
Ah I just had a thought, she's Jenny. The doctor's daughter and maybe just maybe Susan's mother. Except she went in search of the doctor or something else and found the pantheon instead.
I mean the doctor hints Susan is from his future meaning she travelled back to be with her grandfather but for what reason? I mean if she came up with the acronym for TARDIS then she must have travelled through time somehow. Maybe manipulating events either against or in service of her mother. Anyway i'm waffling.
Hi 👋 from Ohio! Why the choice of the Romana white “fur” coat. You’re right, Flood was kind of sinister with Ruby’s Grandmother, I think, in the finale. I don’t think she’s Susan, since Caroline Ford is still alive and ready to go!
I'll tell you what I think, as an American 😎👍I think RTD is a plot fisherman 😎I think he knew he was coming in cold, and wanted to plant a whole bunch of seeds, just to see what interested the modern fan base, and decided he'd develop them later based on interest😉👍so any of your theories could be right, he's been waiting to see what fish are biting in the pond😉👍
Two theories:
1) Mrs Flood is the Oh God of Bad Endings.
2) Mrs Flood is the mother of the Timeless Child (and knows full well The Master is the Timeess Child, not the Doctor)
Honestly, I'm really tired of all the ''Gods''. Back when Sarah Jane Adventures introduced the Trickster, the Pantheon was very mysterious and scary as a concept, but the Maestro and Sutekh don't live up to former standards, in my opinion. As much as I enjoyed Maestro, I feel like Russel relies too heavily on the ''it's a god, idk, deal with it'' explanation for the superpowered world bending characters. When we first learnt that this new era would be more ''supernatural or fantastical'' after the sprinkling of salt or whatever, I was excited, but in series 14 every time (except 73 Yards) the explanation for the supernatural is ''it's a god of [insert specialisation]''. So if Mrs. Flood turns out to be yet another god, it's going to be very disappointing to me. It's feels lazy on Russel's part. If, on the other hand, she turns out to be Susan or Fake Susan or Rani or Missy, that I would find very exciting. I am hoping :D
Edit: Final thought: I just want less 1 dimensional gods and more stuff like the fairies from Torchwood heh.
completely agree! Once you get carried away with Gods it really plays down everything I find
Maybe she does something little, like leaving a penguin on top of the tele.
Iris Wildthyme...finally?
That would be very, very cool. Trouble is, most people don’t listen to BF and would have absolutely no idea what was happening.
She's definitely the Absorbaloff 😂😂😂
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I think she's The Moment interface.
I'm hoping for the Rani too ... she would have plans
Adipose, you forgot about one theory. What if she is something like 2nd regeneration of Lumiat or cannonised Lumiat? I know it's Big Finish (probably not cannon to the TV/Disney series), but... It suits Lumiat (good Master) personality soo well. After the story with Missy, Lumiat fells to the Earth, while regenerating and she decide to regenerate into nice, kind, funny, sweet (but still misterious) old lady, who have aura of "grandma" or "old auntie" or just "nice old lady, from neightborhood.". Remember that she knows about Doctor's companions, due to Master's memories, she was obsessed with finding The Doctor and joining him (what suit with wearing like Doctor's past companions and people he meet before + Missy had umbrella too) and she was in Doctor's TARDIS before as Missy. And... you know, Mistress/Misses Flood/Missy. Coincidence? I don't think so. If I will meet this actress myself during playing Miss. Flood, I will ask her if she is Lumiat?
There's a strong argument for Big Finish being 'cannon' because in 'Night of the Doctor', Paul McGann's Doctor name-checks some of his Big Finish companions before he regenerates.
@@darrenbane7804 Well than... Lumiat can be somewhat cannon?
She's a woman's body inhabited by the matrix of the Tenth/Fourteenth Doctor's TARDIS, like Idris in The Doctor's Wife.
I still stand by the idea that misses flood is the president (Rassilon)
It makes since that if it were susan she would have regenerate at least once
Random thought putting out there. Prepare. lol. Last night I rewatched dark water and death in heaven. And after hearing missy tell capapdi she was the woman in the shop which we all know got me thinking tho. Watch it back Clara never once recognises missy as the woman in the shop. And also when missy impersonates the line “best number in the universe love” line she does it in a kinda east end cockney accent. A accent similar to mrs flood. Got me thinking as we don’t know the master regeneration order what if mars flood is the master and came after John simm and then becomes missy. Or something around the lines. Watch the clip back guys it’s maybe just me over looking things lol. Also thought tho with one of floods outfits being almost identical to one of Clara’s outfits I think from fave the raven. Russell maybe setting little clues. Also could mrs flood have picked up the tooth containing the master to release herself alternate timelines? Could we have another multi master story maybe this time with missy and flood. Also could FLOOD spell out
F- friend / female
L- lover
O- of
O- our
D- doctor
lol clutching at straws with the last bit
The way she's speaking to the conference attendees as if they're children suggests whatever it is, it won't be anything complex.
Could she be a regeneration of Tennants Doctor..?? The Valyard..?? 🤔👍
At this point I don't really care anymore. It's a story arc that should have been wrapped up at the end of Season 1
What if she is the god of stories and the doctor 's real blood related some way ,after all why the TC revealation , whatever maybe she is evil and abandoned the doctor for a reason ,i hope Russell planning that if its not with flood with a new unknown character ,(maybe after gatwa s finale or post gatwa)
I think Mrs Flood is Time
What about River
Im one of the very few people who know who she is (spoilers) let me say a few words. Ang and the queen Vic !
She is .. The White Guardian minus the bird on top of her head!.
Still think she’s the Rani or Iris Wildthyme.
Iris Wyldthyme!
what if she’s the trickster tho
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female loki
Could be a new type of master is my guess
She could be entirely someone different some other new character my theory is she's a Time Lord why does she have to be a familiar character?
If she turns out to be the Master again or another unknown incarnation of the Doctor I'll be done with this show.
I certainly hope its not Susan its a character from over 60 years ago i think people really need to let that character go and leave her be in Classic Who.
It's certainly not the Rani because they don't have the rights to the character and even if they did it would be be too obvious also the Rani is not interested in humans other than experiments so why would she waste her time.
To tell you the truth I'm kind of getting tired of hints, twists and turns and fanfiction all up I just want RTD to stop being clever and just write good stories and write his own damn characters rather than reusing someone elses creations and trying to modernise and ruin them for his own agenda and needs.
Mrs Flood? Mrs fl OOD!
easy, she's a plot device.
Missy
She’s Liz Truss 😳😂🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷
Rivers can flood ;-)
My personal one was purely because of Anita Dobson's Comic Con comment, "Finally, I know where I'm from"
The Doctor doesn't know where they are from.
It would be a Timeless Children tie-in. Maybe Ms Flood is from the Doctor's original planet ...
the drs mother
I’d like to wager a guess that she is the white guardian and that she is purposely passing herself off as human to look out for The Doctor and Ruby as she may know that something terrible is on the way which is what I am hoping will be the case in season 2 and I think this might lead into us seeing the black guardian come back or finally see whoever it is that Mrs Flood as The White Guardian is keeping The Doctor and Ruby safe from.
with this being the 'magic dr who' this almost most definitely the fairy 'GOD' mother...
I think she is a TARDIS
She a badly RTD said in the empire of death commentary
Don't say co1nc1d3nc3, beware the Goblins 😂
She's Iris Wildthyme or a knock off.
Who cares?
Nobody cares anymore mate.
Whatever.
Whatever