Interesting. I think of the "burpy" tone as almost the opposite, with the hand on the neck pickup and with both pickups active like at 1:49. The one you're calling burpy I would describe as nasaly. A good burp has a lot of low end, and guttural sound which you won't get if you turn off the neck pickup and pluck near the bridge.
Thanks, Sam. It’s very much a subjective word that can be interpreted differently. I’m referring to the way I’ve heard it used - in reference to Jaco’s tone. Thanks for your comment.
Wow soloing the bridge pickup really got the sound. I have only one middle pickup on my bass and although I can get a tighter sound by playing closer to the bridge, it doesn’t have that punchy burp sound that you get when you actually have a bridge pickup.
I find that if you have humbuckers or soap bar pickups (especially extended scale) use the bridge pickup and pluck on the neck pickup and/or the neck itself. Maybe it's only my model if bass, but it works for me!
I’ve done everything in this video but Dan’s tone still sound so much more crisp and clear than mine. What am I doing wrong? Is it the EQ? The amp? For reference I’m using a Fender Rumble Studio 40
My definition of 'burp' tone is actually a bit more forward midrange from the bridge J pickup. One example: with a PJ bass, if you solo the bridge pickup, it will sound really thin, Jaco Style but won't 'burp'. In a Jazz Bass, if you do the same and solo the bridge pickup, you'll get an added burp, it won't sound as thin. After researching a lot I learnt that some PJ basses can do the burp and almost sound like a Jazz Bass when both pickups are engaged, but these are specific models like the Yamaha BB2000, but I have no idea how Yamaha achieved that. Most times the bridge pickup of a PJ bass doesn't contain the burp at all. I wonder if more people define the burpiness this way.
When I thought of burp tone, I always thought of Sakurai on “Time Limit” from the Casiopea Mint Jams album at about the 1:30 mark. Maybe it’s more of ribbit 🐸 tone I’m thinking of. I get the feeling what I’m thinking of is effects based. Either way, good video and good commentary!
I think the definition of burp really depends on whether or not we're talking about either tone/eq, or dynamics. In the case of the latter, something else that might help to make ones sound more ''burpy'', is to use a compressor where the attack is relatively slow. If you set the attack time on your compressor relatively slow, there will be more transience that comes through which will distinguish each note and give it more of a ''burpy'' sound. Might be worth trying for some folks.
Everyone has their own preference; all good as far as I’m concerned... Lots of players love two pickups. I have two StingRays and a Jazz and love them both! They’re different tones though.
@@OnlineBassCourses Oh absolutely, I prefer two pickups as well. I just meant for the context of this video, where you describe how to get that 'burp' /growl tone
Ah, I see. Yes, you’re correct. Although; I talk about Jaco getting this tone and he achieved it via a single coil bridge pickup on a Fender Jazz. Although you can, of course, get somewhere near with other basses.
I've noticed with my jazz samick that I have the bridge pick up set higher and slightly closer to the strings and I feel that has some effect on the tone, especially on the the D and G, but as far as the pick up volume, I don't think I'd cut out the neck completely, maybe put it at 50, I just feel that there needs to be some power and slight balance with the other pickup, cause I think jaco played with some juice on the bridge.
Hi Evan. I just had a brief listen and it sounds very Peter Hook influenced. So chorus, plectrum, and perhaps 6 string (like a Fender VI, or Shergold). I’ll probably do a video on this kind of tone one day so subscribe!
Three questions. Were you playing through an amp? If so, what were the EQ settings on the amp? Are you using round or flatwounds on the bass? The sound you're getting with both pickups on is fantastic!
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I dont think this is right. In my experience you need to have a J style pick up configuration, both pick ups fully on, and a lowish action. Not so low that it buzzes, but low enough that you get the "burp" when you dig in. That gets the classic burpy "rasp" sound the guy was asking about. The "Jaco" sound is, as you say, bridge pick up and tone knocked back, but that is more of a "popping" tone. Just my opinion. 😊
Thanks for your comment! I was very much thinking the term referred to the 'Jaco' tone hence the video. I'm pretty sure that's what I've heard it referred to over the years. 👍
@@OnlineBassCourses I agree with this guy. This was a great video and I learned something but I do believe he was referring to the kind of 'poppy, burpy, growly' tone that you were getting even with both pickups open playing up high, which was more of a funk tone. Which is a more plucking hand and fretting hand technique to make the notes pop, especially octaves and fifths to a lesser extent. I wondered about this myself and couldn't figure it out until I went to a music store and played bass with a guy who had the growly tone you and now myself have when we just play the bass naturally. After we grooved a bit I asked to play the bass he was playing because it's gotta give me that same burpy tone right? I just sounded like myself and I asked him what it was that made it sound, and he showed me how to pluck the strings with confidence and to dig in more. I was able to get that funk tone that I was looking for.
@@aussierule nice one Chris. I think people use the same words to describe different sounds/tones in their head. Use whatever term you like as long you can get the tones you desire. Sounds like you're managing that! Keep it up.
@@OnlineBassCourses maybe contact Ibanez to try out the TMB30... It's constantly outshined by the squier Bronco so maybe they'd be willing to sponsor a video?
Good call. The tricky thing is actually getting through to a contact at the company who can help get me a review model. I don't know anyone as no one knows me! I'll look into it. If enough people can tell these companies they want me to do a review, that would help too.
I really hate it when people use the term "back pickup". Which pickup is that? I know what you mean but the term "bridge pickup" eliminates any ambiguity. The other pickup is what I call the neck pickup.
It’s just what is back & what is front is ambiguous. I have students that question when I say go down when that is actually up relative to the horizon.
@@DoctorGuitar Yeah, that's a classic - I used to hear that all the time! With that, I'd explain that it was indeed strange and looks/sounds wrong but to try to think of it from the musician's perspective. Once they thought about it in terms of pitch and not direction, it made sense.
An EQ pedal could help, to dial in a little more low end. Hand placement and the pickup should deliver a good mid frequency but you could play around with that too. Compression can be used to add punch as well.
@@OnlineBassCourses I'm going to give it a try with my amp gain control and EQ. I thought the very low lows were a bit removed for definition, mids a little boosted and highs slightly cut. Is don't have a compression pedal. Any compression pedal? Thanks!!
@@OnlineBassCourses I'm a guitar player now playing bass in an orchestra. Would you recommend one, fro. Your experience, not so expensive, that could do the trick?
I never use compression live at all. Or at least, I rarely use compression live. I prefer to get the dynamics and tone I need from the bass and my technique/control. If you're playing with an orchestra, dynamics are especially important so use compression sparingly. I also have two expensive compressors! Origin Effects and Analogman. The Boss stuff is great and cheap and you can always look second hand.
Eh, not what I think of when I read "burp tone". More like a Tube Screamer into a ProCo Rat. There's just not enough bite unless the bass sounds like a fucking tractor.
So happy I learned how to do the burp. Got all that damn air out of my bass
🤣🤣
Interesting. I think of the "burpy" tone as almost the opposite, with the hand on the neck pickup and with both pickups active like at 1:49. The one you're calling burpy I would describe as nasaly. A good burp has a lot of low end, and guttural sound which you won't get if you turn off the neck pickup and pluck near the bridge.
Thanks, Sam. It’s very much a subjective word that can be interpreted differently. I’m referring to the way I’ve heard it used - in reference to Jaco’s tone. Thanks for your comment.
Drink something that you don't like very quickly. And have someone pat you on the back.
I knew I forgot something!
Thanks! I've been trying to figure that out for a long time actually.
Nice one - have fun with it!
Wow soloing the bridge pickup really got the sound. I have only one middle pickup on my bass and although I can get a tighter sound by playing closer to the bridge, it doesn’t have that punchy burp sound that you get when you actually have a bridge pickup.
You’ve hit the nail on the head. If you want that tone, you need a bridge pick up I think...
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Amazing! Have fun with it.
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Thanks so much, Darrell!
I find that if you have humbuckers or soap bar pickups (especially extended scale) use the bridge pickup and pluck on the neck pickup and/or the neck itself. Maybe it's only my model if bass, but it works for me!
I’ve done everything in this video but Dan’s tone still sound so much more crisp and clear than mine. What am I doing wrong? Is it the EQ? The amp? For reference I’m using a Fender Rumble Studio 40
Lovely tone with both your pick ups on and the way you were digging in at the beginning to be fair! Good advice though re the burp 👍
Thanks very much for the comment. 👊
A good tip is to play with the tone knob, reduce the tone tone knob until it gets as creamier as you desire, imo the sweetspot is between 15% and 35%.
I find your videos really helpful! 👌🏻👍🏻
Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!
Good Explanation!!
Thanks Sergio!
Nice Bass!!
+Cliff P thanks!
Also try using a wah pedal as a filter.
This is super helpful, thank you!
My definition of 'burp' tone is actually a bit more forward midrange from the bridge J pickup. One example: with a PJ bass, if you solo the bridge pickup, it will sound really thin, Jaco Style but won't 'burp'. In a Jazz Bass, if you do the same and solo the bridge pickup, you'll get an added burp, it won't sound as thin. After researching a lot I learnt that some PJ basses can do the burp and almost sound like a Jazz Bass when both pickups are engaged, but these are specific models like the Yamaha BB2000, but I have no idea how Yamaha achieved that. Most times the bridge pickup of a PJ bass doesn't contain the burp at all. I wonder if more people define the burpiness this way.
I agree - i find his first tone was more a throaty "burp" and the second tone was more "honk" or "nasal"
When I thought of burp tone, I always thought of Sakurai on “Time Limit” from the Casiopea Mint Jams album at about the 1:30 mark. Maybe it’s more of ribbit 🐸 tone I’m thinking of. I get the feeling what I’m thinking of is effects based. Either way, good video and good commentary!
Thank you!
I think the definition of burp really depends on whether or not we're talking about either tone/eq, or dynamics. In the case of the latter, something else that might help to make ones sound more ''burpy'', is to use a compressor where the attack is relatively slow. If you set the attack time on your compressor relatively slow, there will be more transience that comes through which will distinguish each note and give it more of a ''burpy'' sound. Might be worth trying for some folks.
Thanks for the advice. 🙏
I'm looking for the bootsy collins finger plucking burp. It's insane how easily he does it.
My teacher! Very good explanation! A quick question, how do you record your voice and the Bass at the same time in a video?
Thanks, Carlos! Bass into Apollo 8, microphone (just out of shot) into another channel. Then I import the audio separately when editing.
Not sure why you'd need two pickups, as long as you have a bridge pickup. A single pickup Stingray will also achieve this growly tone quite well.
Everyone has their own preference; all good as far as I’m concerned... Lots of players love two pickups. I have two StingRays and a Jazz and love them both! They’re different tones though.
@@OnlineBassCourses Oh absolutely, I prefer two pickups as well. I just meant for the context of this video, where you describe how to get that 'burp' /growl tone
Ah, I see. Yes, you’re correct. Although; I talk about Jaco getting this tone and he achieved it via a single coil bridge pickup on a Fender Jazz. Although you can, of course, get somewhere near with other basses.
I've noticed with my jazz samick that I have the bridge pick up set higher and slightly closer to the strings and I feel that has some effect on the tone, especially on the the D and G, but as far as the pick up volume, I don't think I'd cut out the neck completely, maybe put it at 50, I just feel that there needs to be some power and slight balance with the other pickup, cause I think jaco played with some juice on the bridge.
would you happen to know how the bass player wyatt shears from the garden gets that bass tone on songs like “california here we go” or “egg”
Hi Evan. I just had a brief listen and it sounds very Peter Hook influenced. So chorus, plectrum, and perhaps 6 string (like a Fender VI, or Shergold). I’ll probably do a video on this kind of tone one day so subscribe!
@@OnlineBassCourses Thank you! Wyatt uses a four string bass i’m pretty sure also!
@@countysheriff8951, It probably is a 4, something like the Yamaha Peter Hook used to use.
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Three questions. Were you playing through an amp? If so, what were the EQ settings on the amp? Are you using round or flatwounds on the bass? The sound you're getting with both pickups on is fantastic!
1) No amp (just about to release a video on how I record these so...subscribe!) 2) N/A 3) Elites Players stainless steel roundwounds. Thanks!
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I dont think this is right.
In my experience you need to have a J style pick up configuration, both pick ups fully on, and a lowish action.
Not so low that it buzzes, but low enough that you get the "burp" when you dig in.
That gets the classic burpy "rasp" sound the guy was asking about.
The "Jaco" sound is, as you say, bridge pick up and tone knocked back, but that is more of a "popping" tone.
Just my opinion. 😊
Thanks for your comment! I was very much thinking the term referred to the 'Jaco' tone hence the video. I'm pretty sure that's what I've heard it referred to over the years. 👍
@@OnlineBassCourses I agree with this guy. This was a great video and I learned something but I do believe he was referring to the kind of 'poppy, burpy, growly' tone that you were getting even with both pickups open playing up high, which was more of a funk tone. Which is a more plucking hand and fretting hand technique to make the notes pop, especially octaves and fifths to a lesser extent.
I wondered about this myself and couldn't figure it out until I went to a music store and played bass with a guy who had the growly tone you and now myself have when we just play the bass naturally. After we grooved a bit I asked to play the bass he was playing because it's gotta give me that same burpy tone right? I just sounded like myself and I asked him what it was that made it sound, and he showed me how to pluck the strings with confidence and to dig in more. I was able to get that funk tone that I was looking for.
@@aussierule nice one Chris. I think people use the same words to describe different sounds/tones in their head. Use whatever term you like as long you can get the tones you desire. Sounds like you're managing that! Keep it up.
Who do you think has that sound? Like what bass player come to mind?
@@gmsurall for me, it's Jaco.
Please make a tone video on how to get close to vintage tones with modern budget basses 🙏🙏🙏
I'd love to! Just need a modern budget bass...
@@OnlineBassCourses Ibanez mikro bass or any of the Harley Benton basses
Probably need to get my hands on a review unit somehow.
@@OnlineBassCourses maybe contact Ibanez to try out the TMB30... It's constantly outshined by the squier Bronco so maybe they'd be willing to sponsor a video?
Good call. The tricky thing is actually getting through to a contact at the company who can help get me a review model. I don't know anyone as no one knows me! I'll look into it. If enough people can tell these companies they want me to do a review, that would help too.
Fretless like jaco!
The Bernard Edwards video you did with a Stingray got what I call a burp tone to the max.
Yes. The StingRay has a punchy sound. I love it for rock and funk.
Very good info.
Thank you Peter 🙏👍
I really hate it when people use the term "back pickup". Which pickup is that? I know what you mean but the term "bridge pickup" eliminates any ambiguity. The other pickup is what I call the neck pickup.
I’ve always known it by both terms with no problems. It makes complete sense to me!
It’s just what is back & what is front is ambiguous. I have students that question when I say go down when that is actually up relative to the horizon.
@@DoctorGuitar Yeah, that's a classic - I used to hear that all the time! With that, I'd explain that it was indeed strange and looks/sounds wrong but to try to think of it from the musician's perspective. Once they thought about it in terms of pitch and not direction, it made sense.
Great vid thank h
Thanks for watching Louie!
I was thinking it was gonna sound like “Pony” by Ginuwine… that song did have a burpy bass tone.
Any pedal helps getting there? To get that sort of punch definition and girt?
An EQ pedal could help, to dial in a little more low end. Hand placement and the pickup should deliver a good mid frequency but you could play around with that too. Compression can be used to add punch as well.
@@OnlineBassCourses I'm going to give it a try with my amp gain control and EQ. I thought the very low lows were a bit removed for definition, mids a little boosted and highs slightly cut. Is don't have a compression pedal. Any compression pedal? Thanks!!
Sounds good! Depends on your budget with compression pedals but there are so many good ones, I don't think you'll go wrong.
@@OnlineBassCourses I'm a guitar player now playing bass in an orchestra. Would you recommend one, fro. Your experience, not so expensive, that could do the trick?
I never use compression live at all. Or at least, I rarely use compression live. I prefer to get the dynamics and tone I need from the bass and my technique/control. If you're playing with an orchestra, dynamics are especially important so use compression sparingly. I also have two expensive compressors! Origin Effects and Analogman. The Boss stuff is great and cheap and you can always look second hand.
can you do it with humbuckers?
Yes you can. It might not sound exactly like single coils but you’ll get close enough.
@@OnlineBassCourses ok, thanks dude! :)
For me the burp comes with low action, harder attack with slight fret buzz. Jazz doesnt sound jazz with high action
That is true. Low action, good finger attack and soloing the back pickup will definitely take your burpy/growl sound to a whole nother level.
What kind of semi hollow bass is hamging in the background? Is it one of those Vox semis?
It's a 1960s Framus. I use it in this video: ruclips.net/video/yvtnLLFuijI/видео.html
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EQ settings?
Recorded with no EQ or compression. Tone probably all the way up on the bass.
How do you get a twangy tone
I'm not sure! Light guage, steel strings?
@@OnlineBassCourses in terms of tone
@@forestfire1232 Like which player?
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@@forestfire1232 Plectrum plus new stainless steel strings plus bright sounding bass guitar. 👍
I didn’t know Oscar from the office played bass?? Wow
I had Elon Musk the other day and now this. Both firsts for me!
Jaco’s tone is not burp tone. It’s nasally. Burp tone is neck pickup + fret growl
Semantics.
just dig in hard and mute immediately.. at least thats how i get it.. no real need to adjust knobs at all.
If it works for you, that’s great. 🙏👍
Eh, not what I think of when I read "burp tone". More like a Tube Screamer into a ProCo Rat. There's just not enough bite unless the bass sounds like a fucking tractor.
Maybe there’s more than one “burp tone”! This is what most people refer to when they think of it. Thanks for the comment.
Nope.
AKA guttural. 😊
This vid helped me a ton, thanks boss
Thanks for watching!