Butane at 70°f in a closed sytem takes about 30psi to condense and stay liquid. When it condenses it puts off heat and when it evaperates it absorbes heat/ gets cold. You can literally pour condensed butane into a cup and the liquid will boil like a pot of bioling water until it evaporates leaving behind an ice cold cup. The pressure inside the unit must be about 30psi for this to work but the pump isn't pumping 30psi. The pump is creating a differential pressure and that pressure might only need to be about 5-10. Im not sure exactly how much psi it would be but it only needs to raise the pressure on one side and lower the pressure on the other side enough to get the butane to condense and evaporate. While i suspect it would be about 5psi DP it could be even less. This system has all the parts needed for auto refrigeration. It has a power, a pump, a conseror, an orfice, an evaporator and refrigerant. I see no reason to suspect this video is a fake. Thats how AC sytems work.
I found out, and others here have stated, the orifice tube is WAY too big for any estimated possible pump output. The principle is correct, the parts used are not... Everything you just said is basically right...
I don't deny the principle but the execution would not work, he put the fan between the two coils so the hot air would blow on the cold part (or vice versa) and result in no drop in temperature. The claim of -32°C is completely exagerated bullsh*t which he made putting the whole contraption in the freezer and then using a spray can and reversed the video while it was thawing Max you could get in optimizing his current setup would be a temp differential of 10-5°C given the power of his battery
You can make up for the difference in charge. See "superheat". It won't be as efficient as it could be but as long as the refrigerant is seeing both liquid and vapor states on each side, it will move an amount of heat. The thing that jumps out at me is actually the battery lol... It satisfies "that's cute" and little more. I don't think the same battery would have held on for the entire run, but I wouldn't know for sure, as I haven't tried it or even done any of the math. I'd say this one is sketchy but maybe not entirely impossible.
Wouldn’t 30psi almost immediately pop off those silicone tubes that don’t seem to be secured in any way? Also at 7:36 the water drops on the capillary tube are going backwards as if the footage is reversed, so he probably used an air duster can or butane to get the frost effect and play it backwards to make it look like it was spreading, and at 6:56 it starts forming on the wrong side of the coil first.
I am a heat and refrigeration engineer! The cooling system is not that simple! A lot of nonsense in this system! (1) this pump does not have enough compression pressure, (2) the injection cable is too short and does not have enough heat exchange from the condenser to the condenser, (3) the system is not evacuated to remove the moist air inside. never bring the temperature below 0 degrees Celsius, (4) assuming there is ice precipitation like the video, the temperature will never drop to negative like that! Conclusion: This is the skill of the video maker
@davidsmith3302 To achieve the negative depth of - 32 degrees shown on the heat gun, do you know how many psi of compression must be needed to escape through the cable and spray into the evaporator? and at - 32 degrees, the humid air in the system that is not drawn out will freeze and cause blockage of the injection cable! Let's experiment, not just theorize, my friend
I wish an hvac person. engineer maybe, uaheh would make a video of how to make a proper one... I used to do T&B and still don't get it, or how it works. trying to make one for my Boat. and found this.. I look for pepul like you in the coments
The pressure and flow requirements are nothing serious. The important thing is that the pump is gas tight. You don't want your flammable refrigerant leaking out the whole time.
100% fake, it's played in reverse, look at the frost on the wood, they have used something like a duster/freezer can then reversed the video, also that little 9volt battery doesn't have the amp's to do that much work 😂😂😂
pump's membrane would freeze, the pressure of the butane would def come out of the silicone tubing, didn't run a vacuum on the system, and ya the droplet on the outside of the copper tubing suggests that he figure what the hell, I spend all this time making this video and failing on this short-sighted idea that he'd make it work by saturating the evap with butane before taking final shots. XD what a hack!
even if he did manage this, the butane would eventually permeate through the gaskets/mambranes//silicone, I can think of 100 ways that this system will not function for any useful amount of time if at all
@davidsmith3302 my point is dont make content that decieves/confuses people. Dont you think that if this were possible there would be a market dedicated to dirt cheap ultra portable hvac systems? but you dont, everybody focuses on evaporative cooling cause THAT actually works in the right conditions.
Very nice. I suggest just one minor change, make the round cold coil a bit bigger so that you can put a can of drink in it and then mount this part vertically and put some insulation around it to keep it cold. And there you have it, a mini fridge for your soft drinks. Great idea.
@nielsdaemen Well, one might question the pump being able to generate enough pressure running on the 9V battery, it does seem to slow down which I would expect to happen pretty quick, not much energy there. And the capillary tube ID might be a bit big, but then the pump probably isn't generating that much pressure drop across it. I'm sure some of the HVAC could show us the math of the minimum pressure drop needed...
@@davewright3088 Indeed I run these pumps from a bench power supply for my tests because a 9V battery can't provide enough current. These pumps can only reach 1 bar so I use two in series. Butane can make a 20 °C difference at 1.5 bar pressure diference
Correct, if you want it to work properly. Or you could just purge it with the butane before closing it up [take care; highly flammable and explosive]. You would need the right sized capillary tube. This was just a demonstration [or a fake].
Normally, the condenser is much larger than the evaporator because you need to remove the heat that is generated by the pump during pressurization as well as the heat that is removed form the air by the evaporator. This is the opposite and will not work long term if at all. In normal air compressors, the high side pressure is 130+ PSI. This rubber tubing would never be able to hold that kind of pressure and the pump being used would not be able to generate that type of pressure either. And running a pump that could generate that kind of pressure would never work with a low amperage 9v cell like in this video. There is something screwy going on with this. could be as simple as the low side (freezing side) being piped to a real compressor beneath the table or whatever this is on.
It blatantly does work. It's just less efficient that a production system, but it proves the concept very well. You could have gone the whole hog and said the system does not include a dryer, has not been vacuumed down etc, but that is not the point here. And the reason the tubing works is because it only has a small pump rather than a big compressor.
@davidsmith3302 thanks for stating the obvious. but you miss one thing, you didn't explained the basic principle of HOW IT WORKS. because the guy is clearly don't understand the very basic principle of an ac. go tell him sir! tell him why the expansion valve is needed in the system. tell him why the indoor unit is called EVAPORATOR
This is brilliant because you only need a couple psi difference between the high pressure side and the low pressure side in order to condense the gas in such a small system and I’m sure that flammable gas is very efficient
Are you guys mad or some thing this is fake you need much higher pressure pump for this to work if you want to learn about this watch hyperspace pirate
@davidsmith3302 I started checking the comments section because the first one was "fake" . I'm not a specialist in air conditioners, but I do understand physics and I was wondering what part of the system was phoney because as opposed to a lot of the rubbish you see on yt, this looked pretty sound.
@@Newlife-ol6pk It's fake, there is no high and low side, 9v battery and that pump are no where near enough power to power a compressor to actually do what he's trying to trick people to believe he's actually doing it.
I'd like to know how long it takes for the ice to form on the surface. In the video, there's an overlay effect called compositing, both in the fan's audio slowing down due to battery discharge and in the video itself. Could you tell me how long it takes in real life? Thank you!
Your invention is very nice, I tried to make a cooler with peltier plate ,but it consumes too much current. I am going to buy a radiator and connect a capillary tube and a condenser
@@rickschlosser6793 Exactly, but it is possible to create a working heat pump like this with upto 20C temperature difference. The main problems are leakage in through the motor shaft and butane dissolving the tubing... I'm trying to find a type of flexible tube that is butane proof.
I have one of those pumps from a broken Keurig they get a pretty good low pressure. Pretty sure that pump can handle butane. I was wondering how you would have the expansion cycle, seeing the larger hose used as such was nice. Wonderful demo for refrigeration.
The expansion occurs at the capillary tube, not the larger tubing. That larger tubing was used only because his pump had different sized ports... The large tubing is on the hi side (compression), ~17psig or more, depending if there is propane content mixture. Cooling coil is under moderate vacuum...
@@troubleshooter1975 I've been considering making something similar, a small scale unit, although the cooling coils wouldn't be concentrated, but bonded to a stone slab. Basically, a basic chilled kneading board for breads and pie crusts that can be lifted out and swapped with a modular cutting board when needed. The refrigerant of choice for that, propane. If I want high efficiency, I'll order a fridge, for that, something like this would be more than sufficient. Just was uncertain as to the size of the capillary tube. Although, I'd probably add a desiccant drier in mine, since it'd be for regular usage, not just a demonstration unit. I considered an adsorption fridge, but this wouldn't need a heat source. BTW, did you know that Einstein designed a refrigerator for a cousin? An adsorption model, apparently it did enjoy some success.
@@spvillano Absorption cycle is still employed for the RV industry... A stone (or ceramic) board is going to be a BIG heatsink... It will take a while to chill the thermal mass (I think you'd have to prechill it in a fridge, then it could keep it cold for bread, candy, or whatever). I don't think it is going to be as 'tiny' as you imagine. The condenser I think will be bigger than the stone (so another words, big area). It will probably need 1/12HP compressor. A scrapped bar under-counter fridge would probably be perfect. HVAC system fitters here may help you; you at least will have to consult tables to match up your components...
@MrPlastkort Actually no- I too was looking for positive proof one way or the other. If that was water, then it should be collecting and growing. If it is leaking butane, or freeze spray, then it will be evaporating, and shrinking. I scrutinized that closely, and unfortunately, it appears to be something evaporating. This part, at least, appears to be played 'forward'. The telltale is at @ 7:35 where you can see bubbles forming INSIDE the drop. There is one key moment where you can see two tiny bubbles that coalesce into one bubble; something that only happens in a forward direction. Other clues that I couldn't prove: Fan rotation; does it run backwards: Rotation on video can render wrong so hard to tell. Can't read the label to see if there is a direction of rotation stated. Didn't see anything in the vicinity that could reveal direction of breeze or 'sucking' a blown object. Setting things down: When he put the battery down, and when he connected it: If someone puts something down, or attaches something on, without having a grip on both surfaces, then it will show if it is running backwards. If items 'attract' to his hand that he sets down, or looks 'magnetic'; or battery clips that precede his finger and connect themselves without fingers gripping on both sides of it. I watched carefully and unfortunately he maintained contact with items until they were fully on the table, and held both sides of the battery clip, so I couldn't tell if it was off and pressed on, Or, if it was on and he pulled it off... I don't have free time to review it frame by frame. The way he filmed and held things, it is not easy to see if it is backwards or not. [and it can be a mix of forward parts, and backward parts. Each cut complicates analysis.]
Most people do not realize that home air-conditioners and commercial air-conditioners use liquid propane. Only in cars is refrigerant used as it has to be non-flammable in case of a crash. The scaled up verison of this is the home window mounted air-conditioner.
My home AC at home does not use Propane, Propane refrigerant is R290, witch is used a lot in Restaurants, under counter Cooling boxes ect. and some older Refrigerators. Residential AC systems used to use R22, witch is being fazed out for R410, witch is not flammable. Cars use R134, witch is also not flammable. for any of these gasses to be flammable you need high oxygen levels. You need to do some research before talking out your butt.
@@McCuneWindandSolarWhat research does he need to do? He sounded pretty spot on. R290 CAN be used in just about any a/c system, especially the old r-22 systems. Its VERY common in Europe to used in residential a/c. But since the US is full of pussies that are scared of being "blown up", and since its available everywhere there's no money in it, so naturally it got a bad rap. So just because YOUR system doesn't use R290, doesn't mean the next persons system can't.
@@aaronk.4694 R22 runs at a higher pressure than R290 R22 high pressure is 250, and 410 is 480+, and R134a is from 100 to 250 psi pressures are all different. the fact is this video what he is doing will never work. even if he used butane
@@William_Afton____ It's called "Sound tracks" used to make these videos seem like he's out in the country side on a farm and has to do these things to just get by.
If you fill a tube with liquid propane/butane, it will evaporate and the temperature will be decrease. The remaining parts, like fan and pump (maybe for a car windshield washer) are without function.
Brilliant!! All I need to do is add a metal plate on top, to sit my laptop on. To turn it from a hot potato to a cool machine! lol. Love your work Mr iPoo.
Lol not even close. This is a DC motor piston-diaphragm pump with a "crank" mechanism. A fish tank pump is a vibrating diaphragm using a magnet and the AC mains frequency to drive it. One has notable compression capability with reasonable flow rates. The other moves tiny amounts of air at in/WC level pressures. They are not remotely alike in ability.
@@timhinchcliffe5372 Its called a joke, now go back and watch your cable idiot box, stupid boomer. I know you are a stupid boomer because you dont title your videos correctly, like the computer illiterate you are. for example: "Img 1688youtube"
Хех! Сделал мини-холодильник, его составляющие: хладагент, капиллярная трубка, испаритель, радиатор, насос. Этот парень явно гений! Я сам когда-то изучал подобные системы, т.к. они мне очень нравились своим принципом работы.
@@DNtopk Можно сделать многое, но тонкостей ещё больше, например: иней, конденсат и, как следствие, короткое замыкание из-за влаги, способной попасть на питающие линии платы ПК. Также можно получить отравление, если произойдет утечка хладагента. Рекомендую покупать СЖО от надежных брендов, распространяющих товар на официальных площадках, чтобы не возникало проблем.
@@DNtopk Ты на этот фейк реально повелся? Для того чтоб тепловой насос работал - хладагент нужно сжимать в жидкость, а потом он должен испаряться. Знаешь почему так быстро замерзают трубки на видео, потому, что они оттаивают, видео пущено реверсом. Это сраный фейк!
@@felixurgant3487 это не хладогент а обычный газ для заправки зажигалок а от газа его утечек из газ балона в малых количествах ещё никто неотравлялся при зарядке зажигалок 🤓
The common PP3 9 volt battery has about 0.5 Amp hours. Maybe putting out 4 to 5 watts. Bing brings up: Typical wattage for a 12V washer pump is around 45/50W with a maximum current of 5 Amps.
What was the temperature on the hot side? That would be good information because what you are doing is transferring heat from the side which gets cold to the side which get hot - and in your machine it shows how heat pumps are very efficient at using a small 9V battery to achieve a big heat gain.
Yep, and I’m just wondering how must pressure was being applied to the high pressure side since the are using plastic or rubber tubing to connect to the high pressure coil.
That copper tube with very small cross-section, is strangling the debit, when connecting the 2 copper coils. I would have connected the coils with either a short piece of that yellow plastic tube, either with an overlapping bigger copper tube, either by carefully bending the ends of the 2 coils such as to touch, then soldering them together.
alguien me puede explicar como es posible que funcione un sistema de refrigeracion si no se produce en ningun momento la compresion del aire ( genera calor) pero si se produce la condensacion .
Looks awesome. Separating your heat exchangers, they are both using hot and cold in same air flow. I also recomend putting the evaporator in like warm water and having it raise the vapor a high distance like 10' or more, then condense in some cold water and have the liquid drop several feet then have a piston or turbine to make electricity.
That is how they would be configured in a dehumidifier; only the other way around ~ warm-humid air pass’s though the cold evaporator where the humidity condenses out of the air and it turns cold > it passes through the hot condenser cooling it and a fan sucks the air out
This is really cool but I'm not sure the background noise is necessary... I'm very interested in building my own heat pump and would love to know where you learned how to do this
None because it's fake, the pump is normally supposed to be powerfull enough to bring the gas back to liquid form, which this pump with flexible pipes absolutely cannot do. The video was reversed
As for as using something like this for a desk fan, you have to understand that any refrigeration system does “make” cold air. It moves the heat from one place and releases it in another. The total heat dissipation of this system is negative. You have to include the energy from the battery which is dissipated as heat in the fan and the pump. In other words if you stick this in front of a fan it is just going to blow hot air on you.
I just don’t get it guys,despite having ab air conditioner i want one which can be carried around and does not have hell lot of systems , so i wanna know can i just put that chill gas inside a copper wire and rotate it throughout the pump, and after that would it be cool , just put a fan to spread the cooling , is it possible
The pump used here is not a positive displacement pump but I think it's not fake. The centrifugal pump used here only transfers the butane from one end to the other at almost not significant pressure. The choke between the evaporator and the condensor is what did this work. That minor change is what cooled the tube. Butane is always very cold if there is heat above it. I mean I have a butane torch, once it runs for some times, you can see the cylinder temperature goes too low.
This is actually a diaphragm pump... i honestly am not sure about this. The gas he used would expand and create a lot of pressure that would easily pop those hoses off. Not sure how this was faked, but you wont get much of a adiabatic cycle from silicone hose and a pump thats used for battery powered aquarium air.
Actually, it only needs to have ~20psi to make this work. More if those temps were real. I think this small diameter tubing could hold that pressure ok. The 'choke' would work if there was no (or little) pressure difference. The restriction only cools as much as the developed pressure difference; so they go hand-in-hand...
@@troubleshooter1975 You wont get 20 psi out of those little pumps. I have one. They aren't compressors, they just use rubber cups to pump air for portable bubblers for things like boats. Bait bubbler etc.
@@sitgesvillaapartmentneilsc7924 Oh well, I have a mechanical and analytical engineering background and not a refrigeration one. Looked pretty credible to me. I notice a few are calling it fake, though there are others who dispute that too. Only one way to find out! Cheers - Dave
Could someone please give us an indication about how much refrigerant is put in the system? Do you have to have sufficient to fill the warm side coil, or is a just little enough? TIA.
Great video, simple system and method, without relying on exotic items. Using a pump for compressing the refrigerant and the filling method are interesting. Is the system running? If so, is there any noticeable leakage or wear at the pump? Thanks.
газ для заправки зажигалок там же показано написано ? 6:12 или вы никогда зажигалки незаправляли газом невидели как газ охлаждает зажигалку при утечках через минимальные трещины ?
Butane at 70°f in a closed sytem takes about 30psi to condense and stay liquid.
When it condenses it puts off heat and when it evaperates it absorbes heat/ gets cold.
You can literally pour condensed butane into a cup and the liquid will boil like a pot of bioling water until it evaporates leaving behind an ice cold cup.
The pressure inside the unit must be about 30psi for this to work but the pump isn't pumping 30psi. The pump is creating a differential pressure and that pressure might only need to be about 5-10. Im not sure exactly how much psi it would be but it only needs to raise the pressure on one side and lower the pressure on the other side enough to get the butane to condense and evaporate. While i suspect it would be about 5psi DP it could be even less.
This system has all the parts needed for auto refrigeration.
It has a power, a pump, a conseror, an orfice, an evaporator and refrigerant. I see no reason to suspect this video is a fake. Thats how AC sytems work.
I found out, and others here have stated, the orifice tube is WAY too big for any estimated possible pump output. The principle is correct, the parts used are not...
Everything you just said is basically right...
I don't deny the principle but the execution would not work, he put the fan between the two coils so the hot air would blow on the cold part (or vice versa) and result in no drop in temperature. The claim of -32°C is completely exagerated bullsh*t which he made putting the whole contraption in the freezer and then using a spray can and reversed the video while it was thawing
Max you could get in optimizing his current setup would be a temp differential of 10-5°C given the power of his battery
You can make up for the difference in charge. See "superheat". It won't be as efficient as it could be but as long as the refrigerant is seeing both liquid and vapor states on each side, it will move an amount of heat.
The thing that jumps out at me is actually the battery lol... It satisfies "that's cute" and little more. I don't think the same battery would have held on for the entire run, but I wouldn't know for sure, as I haven't tried it or even done any of the math.
I'd say this one is sketchy but maybe not entirely impossible.
Wouldn’t 30psi almost immediately pop off those silicone tubes that don’t seem to be secured in any way? Also at 7:36 the water drops on the capillary tube are going backwards as if the footage is reversed, so he probably used an air duster can or butane to get the frost effect and play it backwards to make it look like it was spreading, and at 6:56 it starts forming on the wrong side of the coil first.
@davidsmith3302 Shame it was "almost", that would have made a stellar video.
I am a heat and refrigeration engineer! The cooling system is not that simple! A lot of nonsense in this system! (1) this pump does not have enough compression pressure, (2) the injection cable is too short and does not have enough heat exchange from the condenser to the condenser, (3) the system is not evacuated to remove the moist air inside. never bring the temperature below 0 degrees Celsius, (4) assuming there is ice precipitation like the video, the temperature will never drop to negative like that! Conclusion: This is the skill of the video maker
@davidsmith3302 To achieve the negative depth of - 32 degrees shown on the heat gun, do you know how many psi of compression must be needed to escape through the cable and spray into the evaporator? and at - 32 degrees, the humid air in the system that is not drawn out will freeze and cause blockage of the injection cable! Let's experiment, not just theorize, my friend
I wish an hvac person. engineer maybe, uaheh would make a video of how to make a proper one... I used to do T&B and still don't get it, or how it works. trying to make one for my Boat. and found this.. I look for pepul like you in the coments
I think Mr iPoo has EXCELLENT SKILLS -------------- In videography that is....
What kind of pump are you using ? Is it a gear pump or ?
Looks like a windshield washer fluid pump from an automotive parts store
No it's not gear pump, it's just a simple mini air/gas compressor.
I didn’t know anyone made such compressors. Any idea where I can get one?
The pressure and flow requirements are nothing serious. The important thing is that the pump is gas tight. You don't want your flammable refrigerant leaking out the whole time.
100% fake, it's played in reverse, look at the frost on the wood, they have used something like a duster/freezer can then reversed the video, also that little 9volt battery doesn't have the amp's to do that much work 😂😂😂
And also the water drop going backwards
pump's membrane would freeze, the pressure of the butane would def come out of the silicone tubing, didn't run a vacuum on the system, and ya the droplet on the outside of the copper tubing suggests that he figure what the hell, I spend all this time making this video and failing on this short-sighted idea that he'd make it work by saturating the evap with butane before taking final shots. XD what a hack!
even if he did manage this, the butane would eventually permeate through the gaskets/mambranes//silicone, I can think of 100 ways that this system will not function for any useful amount of time if at all
Hyperspace Pirate has a nice series of videos with actual tests and theory. They should get more views.
@davidsmith3302 my point is dont make content that decieves/confuses people. Dont you think that if this were possible there would be a market dedicated to dirt cheap ultra portable hvac systems? but you dont, everybody focuses on evaporative cooling cause THAT actually works in the right conditions.
Interesting. What is the flow direction of the pump?
In the center, out the side. The cold coil is after expansion
@@justfellover thank for the answer. 👍👍👍
It's fake.
Very nice. I suggest just one minor change, make the round cold coil a bit bigger so that you can put a can of drink in it and then mount this part vertically and put some insulation around it to keep it cold. And there you have it, a mini fridge for your soft drinks. Great idea.
You know that this was fake, right?? LOL🤣
No lo parece. Tecnucamente es correcto en todos los pasos y funciobamiento.@@Tom-yc8jv
It's still a great idea . I kept saying, "What is he going to do with this thing"
i seen it before it was indian channel because all fake stuffs like this made by them @@Tom-yc8jv
@@Mike-vr4lwWhat to do with that thing? ...hmm very easy, patent it, then mass produce it and finally sell it and become a millionaire
Cool demo, but I think the liquified butane would eat away the rubber in your pump/silicone tubing after a few hours/days
Would like to have seen the condenser temperature. And of course the pressure drop across the capillary would have given us the complete story...
capillary tube does determine the health for general units, but in this instance i think this is sufficient
I wanted that too! (AND, he never hit off-target to see if readings were true - was the thermogun, was his gun calibration skewed?)
It's fake, but my comments explaining it keep getting removed!
@nielsdaemen Well, one might question the pump being able to generate enough pressure running on the 9V battery, it does seem to slow down which I would expect to happen pretty quick, not much energy there. And the capillary tube ID might be a bit big, but then the pump probably isn't generating that much pressure drop across it. I'm sure some of the HVAC could show us the math of the minimum pressure drop needed...
@@davewright3088 Indeed I run these pumps from a bench power supply for my tests because a 9V battery can't provide enough current. These pumps can only reach 1 bar so I use two in series. Butane can make a 20 °C difference at 1.5 bar pressure diference
Can urine be used? Likewise, can you make a water-air exchanger?
A great video describing the concept of refrigeration, however, should the system not be evacuated of air before introducing the refrigerant?
It's completely fake anyways
Correct, if you want it to work properly.
Or you could just purge it with the butane before closing it up [take care; highly flammable and explosive].
You would need the right sized capillary tube. This was just a demonstration [or a fake].
they actually make mini rotary compressors for like $300 that are the size of a coke can. But yes this is completely fake.
Normally, the condenser is much larger than the evaporator because you need to remove the heat that is generated by the pump during pressurization as well as the heat that is removed form the air by the evaporator. This is the opposite and will not work long term if at all.
In normal air compressors, the high side pressure is 130+ PSI. This rubber tubing would never be able to hold that kind of pressure and the pump being used would not be able to generate that type of pressure either.
And running a pump that could generate that kind of pressure would never work with a low amperage 9v cell like in this video.
There is something screwy going on with this. could be as simple as the low side (freezing side) being piped to a real compressor beneath the table or whatever this is on.
It blatantly does work. It's just less efficient that a production system, but it proves the concept very well. You could have gone the whole hog and said the system does not include a dryer, has not been vacuumed down etc, but that is not the point here. And the reason the tubing works is because it only has a small pump rather than a big compressor.
probably pumped liquid nitrogen or just refilled with liquid butane again. Even the hot side is in the negatives
what are you talking about? dude do you even know how refrigerant works? and do you even know why the guy using that flammable gas? seriously dude😂
and yet, there it is....
@davidsmith3302 thanks for stating the obvious. but you miss one thing, you didn't explained the basic principle of HOW IT WORKS. because the guy is clearly don't understand the very basic principle of an ac. go tell him sir! tell him why the expansion valve is needed in the system. tell him why the indoor unit is called EVAPORATOR
Hello
Why do you use two twisted pipes???
I am very curious
This is brilliant because you only need a couple psi difference between the high pressure side and the low pressure side in order to condense the gas in such a small system and I’m sure that flammable gas is very efficient
He didn't vacuum the air out of the system though. Air has moisture in it, and it will freeze and clog the system.
@davidsmith3302So this system will work indefininetly?
Are you guys mad or some thing this is fake you need much higher pressure pump for this to work if you want to learn about this watch hyperspace pirate
@davidsmith3302 I started checking the comments section because the first one was "fake" . I'm not a specialist in air conditioners, but I do understand physics and I was wondering what part of the system was phoney because as opposed to a lot of the rubbish you see on yt, this looked pretty sound.
@@Newlife-ol6pk It's fake, there is no high and low side, 9v battery and that pump are no where near enough power to power a compressor to actually do what he's trying to trick people to believe he's actually doing it.
I'd like to know how long it takes for the ice to form on the surface. In the video, there's an overlay effect called compositing, both in the fan's audio slowing down due to battery discharge and in the video itself. Could you tell me how long it takes in real life? Thank you!
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Can I know for how long it will work iam thinking should I buy peltier module with kit?
Your invention is very nice, I tried to make a cooler with peltier plate ,but it consumes too much current. I am going to buy a radiator and connect a capillary tube and a condenser
¿Pero si hace frío?
¿ Si congela?
@@Jesucristoesreytv yes
Part number on pump and place to order from
The water drops go backwards at 7:35 it mean that the video reversed.
What type gas you use in this your system ?
Where can I find the material I put and where can I find the small pump?
Do you have a material build list?
Copper tubing, rubber tube, gas for refuelling lighters, syringe needle, 9v battery, pc fan, pump and a piece of scrap board. It was obvious!
@@MicSokol Will it work from a purchased lighter or does it have to be from a spray can?
@@ivanprokopovich4628 You can fill it with lemon juice it will work the same LOL
May I know how much lighter gas do we need to pump into the system?
Tienen que haber un ventilador sacando el calor de un lado?
Can butane be used as a refrigerant?
cuanto dura el gas en el circuito?
GJ, Where can i find the mini compressor? and what is the diameter of the tubes?
It's not a compressor, just a little pump. Look up mini pump or fish tank pump
I suspect you could also find such a pump inside a dishwasher or washing machine. I know I have saved a few since I have disassembled a few.
You can use Propane also, I’m in Refrigeration and basically all R600 is, is Propane. But this is a cool little project.
It's fake, but my comments explaining it keep getting removed!
Then you know this unit is useless.
Any btus absorbed by the cold end are just released out the other.
It won’t cool much as designed.
@@rickschlosser6793 Exactly, but it is possible to create a working heat pump like this with upto 20C temperature difference. The main problems are leakage in through the motor shaft and butane dissolving the tubing...
I'm trying to find a type of flexible tube that is butane proof.
@@nielsdaemenI did work in industry. I would suggest finding some tubing made out of PTFE (teflon), it is impervious to most chemicals.
R-600a is isobutane; R-290 is propane...
[your in refrigeration?? everybody makes typos... just correcting info, not criticizing.]
I have one of those pumps from a broken Keurig they get a pretty good low pressure. Pretty sure that pump can handle butane.
I was wondering how you would have the expansion cycle, seeing the larger hose used as such was nice.
Wonderful demo for refrigeration.
The expansion occurs at the capillary tube, not the larger tubing.
That larger tubing was used only because his pump had different sized ports...
The large tubing is on the hi side (compression), ~17psig or more, depending if there is propane content mixture.
Cooling coil is under moderate vacuum...
@@troubleshooter1975 I've been considering making something similar, a small scale unit, although the cooling coils wouldn't be concentrated, but bonded to a stone slab. Basically, a basic chilled kneading board for breads and pie crusts that can be lifted out and swapped with a modular cutting board when needed.
The refrigerant of choice for that, propane.
If I want high efficiency, I'll order a fridge, for that, something like this would be more than sufficient. Just was uncertain as to the size of the capillary tube. Although, I'd probably add a desiccant drier in mine, since it'd be for regular usage, not just a demonstration unit.
I considered an adsorption fridge, but this wouldn't need a heat source.
BTW, did you know that Einstein designed a refrigerator for a cousin? An adsorption model, apparently it did enjoy some success.
@@spvillano Absorption cycle is still employed for the RV industry...
A stone (or ceramic) board is going to be a BIG heatsink...
It will take a while to chill the thermal mass (I think you'd have to prechill it in a fridge, then it could keep it cold for bread, candy, or whatever).
I don't think it is going to be as 'tiny' as you imagine.
The condenser I think will be bigger than the stone (so another words, big area).
It will probably need 1/12HP compressor.
A scrapped bar under-counter fridge would probably be perfect.
HVAC system fitters here may help you; you at least will have to consult tables to match up your components...
da f*ck.... 7:35 water is evaporating backwards ?
@MrPlastkort Actually no-
I too was looking for positive proof one way or the other.
If that was water, then it should be collecting and growing.
If it is leaking butane, or freeze spray, then it will be evaporating, and shrinking.
I scrutinized that closely, and unfortunately, it appears to be something evaporating.
This part, at least, appears to be played 'forward'.
The telltale is at @ 7:35 where you can see bubbles forming INSIDE the drop. There is one key moment where you can see two tiny bubbles that coalesce into one bubble; something that only happens in a forward direction.
Other clues that I couldn't prove:
Fan rotation; does it run backwards:
Rotation on video can render wrong so hard to tell. Can't read the label to see if there is a direction of rotation stated.
Didn't see anything in the vicinity that could reveal direction of breeze or 'sucking' a blown object.
Setting things down:
When he put the battery down, and when he connected it:
If someone puts something down, or attaches something on, without having a grip on both surfaces, then it will show if it is running backwards. If items 'attract' to his hand that he sets down, or looks 'magnetic'; or battery clips that precede his finger and connect themselves without fingers gripping on both sides of it.
I watched carefully and unfortunately he maintained contact with items until they were fully on the table, and held both sides of the battery clip, so I couldn't tell if it was off and pressed on, Or, if it was on and he pulled it off...
I don't have free time to review it frame by frame.
The way he filmed and held things, it is not easy to see if it is backwards or not.
[and it can be a mix of forward parts, and backward parts. Each cut complicates analysis.]
What was the diameter of pipes used in this project?
Most people do not realize that home air-conditioners and commercial air-conditioners use liquid propane. Only in cars is refrigerant used as it has to be non-flammable in case of a crash. The scaled up verison of this is the home window mounted air-conditioner.
My home AC at home does not use Propane, Propane refrigerant is R290, witch is used a lot in Restaurants, under counter Cooling boxes ect. and some older Refrigerators. Residential AC systems used to use R22, witch is being fazed out for R410, witch is not flammable. Cars use R134, witch is also not flammable. for any of these gasses to be flammable you need high oxygen levels. You need to do some research before talking out your butt.
@@McCuneWindandSolarWhat research does he need to do? He sounded pretty spot on. R290 CAN be used in just about any a/c system, especially the old r-22 systems. Its VERY common in Europe to used in residential a/c. But since the US is full of pussies that are scared of being "blown up", and since its available everywhere there's no money in it, so naturally it got a bad rap. So just because YOUR system doesn't use R290, doesn't mean the next persons system can't.
@@aaronk.4694 R22 runs at a higher pressure than R290 R22 high pressure is 250, and 410 is 480+, and R134a is from 100 to 250 psi pressures are all different. the fact is this video what he is doing will never work. even if he used butane
How long does it last and doesn't burn?, please answer
Wait shouldn't the pump be flipped around so that the vacuum side is the one for the evaporator and the pressure side is on the condenser?
Hola qué tal, mi hermano cuanto dura la pila si se utiliza tres horas día?
Did you make some calculations for this cycle? I guess it is not very efficient. The good thing about the compressor is, that it is oil free.
Se puede poner una lata de cerveza en el condensador?
Kde koupim napln dekuji za odkaz.
Great Innovation! The chickens in the background are funny 🤣
Its called nature
@@William_Afton____ It's called "Sound tracks" used to make these videos seem like he's out in the country side on a farm and has to do these things to just get by.
What type of gass you used and how mauch the amount
tecnicamente funcioinal... porém, a pressão do gas em repouso, estoura as mangueiras de borracha
Hello, I wonder if this great idea will fit the car
Complimenti per il progetto, una domanda: ma cosa hai usato come pompa? Dove posso reperirla grazie
You can get them out of Keurig, coffee machines
@@garrisonbuildz ok thank you
Можете найти насос и термостефал на 6 литров.
wrap copper like a spring around a pipe easier than this way 1 hole or a lug and use a bench vice
Or a soup can, etc.
Hello mr, does it use refrigerant liquid?
looks like he's using butane
Ele está usando gás de recarga de isqueiros .
LIA
HOW LONG DOES IT LAST AND DOESNT BURN
PLEASE ANSWER
what kind of pump did you use?
If you fill a tube with liquid propane/butane, it will evaporate and the temperature will be decrease. The remaining parts, like fan and pump (maybe for a car windshield washer) are without function.
Good morning, could you tell me the measurements of that copper pipe you use?
Brilliant!! All I need to do is add a metal plate on top, to sit my laptop on. To turn it from a hot potato to a cool machine! lol. Love your work Mr iPoo.
The motor and compressor used came from the plugin air pump from a fish tank. Pretty straight forward.
Lol not even close. This is a DC motor piston-diaphragm pump with a "crank" mechanism.
A fish tank pump is a vibrating diaphragm using a magnet and the AC mains frequency to drive it.
One has notable compression capability with reasonable flow rates. The other moves tiny amounts of air at in/WC level pressures.
They are not remotely alike in ability.
Quais os materiais que podemos fazer esse projeto.
Pode me dá a lista dos materiais.ja agradeço
hey, what is the diameter of the copper pipe?
Wow, I wonder how good a life size AC split would work with a kilo of butane?
Cual es la lista de materiales falto eso, para que el video esté completo.
You know it's high tech by the chickens in the background.
Lucky for you if _you_ made a video you wouldn't hear the cockroaches in the background in your mother's basement.
@@timhinchcliffe5372 Its called a joke, now go back and watch your cable idiot box, stupid boomer.
I know you are a stupid boomer because you dont title your videos correctly, like the computer illiterate you are. for example: "Img 1688youtube"
And glue!
@@timhinchcliffe5372 when did you learn to take a joke so seriously?
@@uniqueprogressive9908 when did you?
Хех! Сделал мини-холодильник, его составляющие: хладагент, капиллярная трубка, испаритель, радиатор, насос. Этот парень явно гений! Я сам когда-то изучал подобные системы, т.к. они мне очень нравились своим принципом работы.
здравствуйте а как думаете можно ли зделать что то подобное для охлождения персонального компьютера ибо даже сжо не всегда справляется
@@DNtopk Можно сделать многое, но тонкостей ещё больше, например: иней, конденсат и, как следствие, короткое замыкание из-за влаги, способной попасть на питающие линии платы ПК. Также можно получить отравление, если произойдет утечка хладагента.
Рекомендую покупать СЖО от надежных брендов, распространяющих товар на официальных площадках, чтобы не возникало проблем.
@@DNtopk поищите видосы про аквариумные чиллера для пк, в качестве СЖО.
@@DNtopk Ты на этот фейк реально повелся? Для того чтоб тепловой насос работал - хладагент нужно сжимать в жидкость, а потом он должен испаряться. Знаешь почему так быстро замерзают трубки на видео, потому, что они оттаивают, видео пущено реверсом. Это сраный фейк!
@@felixurgant3487 это не хладогент а обычный газ для заправки зажигалок а от газа его утечек из газ балона в малых количествах ещё никто неотравлялся при зарядке зажигалок 🤓
The common PP3 9 volt battery has about 0.5 Amp hours. Maybe putting out 4 to 5 watts. Bing brings up: Typical wattage for a 12V washer pump is around 45/50W with a maximum current of 5 Amps.
Podrias pasar el diametro de los caños? cuantas vueltas, etc, etc, muchas gracias desde ya, saludos
What was the temperature on the hot side? That would be good information because what you are doing is transferring heat from the side which gets cold to the side which get hot - and in your machine it shows how heat pumps are very efficient at using a small 9V battery to achieve a big heat gain.
Yep, and I’m just wondering how must pressure was being applied to the high pressure side since the are using plastic or rubber tubing to connect to the high pressure coil.
Fiquei impressionado com a sua criatividade parabéns amigo 👏👏👏
What about heating from battery?)
which air pump is that ?
You can attach an exhaust fan for getting cool air ...
Buenas noches cuál es el nombre de las herramientas q usa por favor
the gas temperature in the pump is very high. it can break down quickly.
this systeme will works for how long ??? hours days a month !!!
i have two question
First what type of motor you used this is water pump or air pump
Second which Gas you used
This video process are fake or real
That copper tube with very small cross-section, is strangling the debit, when connecting the 2 copper coils. I would have connected the coils with either a short piece of that yellow plastic tube, either with an overlapping bigger copper tube, either by carefully bending the ends of the 2 coils such as to touch, then soldering them together.
where is the best place to get copper piping
alguien me puede explicar como es posible que funcione un sistema de refrigeracion si no se produce en ningun momento la compresion del aire ( genera calor) pero si se produce la condensacion .
Looks awesome. Separating your heat exchangers, they are both using hot and cold in same air flow. I also recomend putting the evaporator in like warm water and having it raise the vapor a high distance like 10' or more, then condense in some cold water and have the liquid drop several feet then have a piston or turbine to make electricity.
That is how they would be configured in a dehumidifier; only the other way around ~ warm-humid air pass’s though the cold evaporator where the humidity condenses out of the air and it turns cold > it passes through the hot condenser cooling it and a fan sucks the air out
I can.@davidsmith3302
This is really cool but I'm not sure the background noise is necessary... I'm very interested in building my own heat pump and would love to know where you learned how to do this
So how do I make a bigger version of this
I always wondered what farmers did all day.
What kind of pump, is this and what kind of gas is being pumped, into the system?
Does anyone know??
How much heat can this system dissipate? Thinking of using this for a deskfan in the summer.
None because it's fake, the pump is normally supposed to be powerfull enough to bring the gas back to liquid form, which this pump with flexible pipes absolutely cannot do. The video was reversed
As for as using something like this for a desk fan, you have to understand that any refrigeration system does “make” cold air. It moves the heat from one place and releases it in another. The total heat dissipation of this system is negative. You have to include the energy from the battery which is dissipated as heat in the fan and the pump. In other words if you stick this in front of a fan it is just going to blow hot air on you.
what are the practical application or is this for just demonstrating some principle?
What liquid use?
Greetings
It's fake, mate..
I just don’t get it guys,despite having ab air conditioner i want one which can be carried around and does not have hell lot of systems , so i wanna know can i just put that chill gas inside a copper wire and rotate it throughout the pump, and after that would it be cool , just put a fan to spread the cooling , is it possible
Теперь куры чувствуют себя комфортно даже в самую жаркую погоду 😇
I wonder, just how small could you go with this and have it still function.
how can i get this compresor or pomp please ????
Why is it cooling on the opposite side first?
What gas spray did you use?
Butane
what gass use?its freon?
Looks like R600
fart gas
The pump used here is not a positive displacement pump but I think it's not fake. The centrifugal pump used here only transfers the butane from one end to the other at almost not significant pressure. The choke between the evaporator and the condensor is what did this work. That minor change is what cooled the tube. Butane is always very cold if there is heat above it. I mean I have a butane torch, once it runs for some times, you can see the cylinder temperature goes too low.
This is actually a diaphragm pump... i honestly am not sure about this. The gas he used would expand and create a lot of pressure that would easily pop those hoses off. Not sure how this was faked, but you wont get much of a adiabatic cycle from silicone hose and a pump thats used for battery powered aquarium air.
@@colinsmith6340 The way it is faked is that you have to keep refilling it with butane because it's just boiling the butane and the pump does nothing
Actually, it only needs to have ~20psi to make this work.
More if those temps were real.
I think this small diameter tubing could hold that pressure ok.
The 'choke' would work if there was no (or little) pressure difference. The restriction only cools as much as the developed pressure difference; so they go hand-in-hand...
@@troubleshooter1975 You wont get 20 psi out of those little pumps. I have one. They aren't compressors, they just use rubber cups to pump air for portable bubblers for things like boats. Bait bubbler etc.
How many animal in your house? I heard chicken, dog, bird, cow and also goat 😂😂
😂😂
What is the motor?
Keep Yourself Safe bro 👍
Wow - what a great project. I would love to make this with my kids in the holidays. Big smiles and thanks from Sydney - Dave
itsfake!
@@sitgesvillaapartmentneilsc7924 Oh well, I have a mechanical and analytical engineering background and not a refrigeration one. Looked pretty credible to me. I notice a few are calling it fake, though there are others who dispute that too. Only one way to find out! Cheers - Dave
saya mencoba dengan pompa diafragma kamoer 3 bar,belum berhasil karena pipa karet terlepas dari pipa tembaga akibat terkena tekanan gas butane
What is the temperature of the condenser coil
Can i use iron pipe
Se necesita de mucha potencia en el motor para que pueda presurizar
Qual calibre do cano de cobre?
Could someone please give us an indication about how much refrigerant is put in the system? Do you have to have sufficient to fill the warm side coil, or is a just little enough? TIA.
Simplicity ... awesome! What was the amount of time it took for the coil to cool?
It required only two-hundred and forty-seven of the 9V batteries.
@@JxH 😄😄😄😄
--- AND, a second commercial chiller to keep the motor cool! LOL
ademas el piso se ve como si las ceramicas estuvieran flojas y para saber que trucos hay en este video!!
Great video, simple system and method, without relying on exotic items. Using a pump for compressing the refrigerant and the filling method are interesting. Is the system running? If so, is there any noticeable leakage or wear at the pump? Thanks.
Привет, отлично. А чем заправили сичтему? Природный газ или фреон? Какой тип фреона?
Газ для зажигалок. Только видео фейк. Он сначала где-то замораживает эту хрень, потом она отогревается и он это в обратную сторону прокручивает.
газ для заправки зажигалок там же показано написано ? 6:12 или вы никогда зажигалки незаправляли газом невидели как газ охлаждает зажигалку при утечках через минимальные трещины ?
ou avez vous pris votre pompe