"Our engineers have been working on this for several years. And, we've gone back to threaded BB because our engineers can't get tooling tolerances right for press fit. So, we'll take a step backwards as market it as an improvement and charge you extra".
*Works great my **Latest.Bike** I have a bad knee so I still get exercise but the bike assists me. I am a big guy so I didn’t think it would go as fast but it works great.*
Well done Specialized. What an amazing presentation and launch video. I’m sure it was an incredible amount of work putting all this together and years in the making. I ordered the SL7 Pro SRAM. Can’t wait to ride it!
"Now the old threaded bottom bracket... in my opinion, a well manufactured press fit is far superior. ...you have to remember that the threaded cup that you are threading into your frame has got the bearing pressed into it so why are you replicating that? The only reason you are replicating that is because you are admitting that you can’t make that (press fit) interface to the required accuracy and repeatability. By going back to a threaded bottom bracket, you are basically saying that we don’t have the ability to manufacture this part at this accuracy and repeatability and still maximize our profit... there is no technical reason why it is better.” Luescher Teknik ruclips.net/video/aQ5aNlfRBr4/видео.html
Well, then you still have the fastest specialized there is. They pretty much tell you that the only reason that this bike exists is that the riders that had a venge and a tarmac didn't want to choose which one to ride today.
@@franciss2529 the innovation that i'm talking about is the profile and tubing of this bike that makes it 45 seconds faster from sl6....innovation is not about the bb shell of a bike
@@lawrencemauricio7874 '45 seconds faster' is a bad way of putting it; there are no other given units (for what speed+ distance over what terrain?), tested in their own wind tunnel (not independently) without realistic factors (rider on the bike, wheel combos) etc. Also, the graph they show has no axis units (so there's no way of telling the margin of improvement) and the bike is a compromise of both bikes (heavier than the SL6, less aero than the venge). None of it makes scientific sense and it's all cheeky marketing and testing. And yep, going back to an old type of BB after their faith in press fit proves that if they were wrong in the past with that, they could well be wrong now.
Very nice video. The one that convinces me to get one. Question about the wind tunnel how do the researches simulate bike yaw and lateral play? a real ride is not perfectly perpendicular to the ground nor is the bike supported with balancers.
Setting my alarm clock for this one! I’m expecting big things and the VR/AR looks great! Is there somewhere other than the ride app you can view it? The Vr bike not showing up in my feed.. Expecting big things from Shimano at the same time 😉
Funny how pinarello said that having more than one bike isn't that great a long time ago. Seems like most companies are finally starting to see this. No-one wants multiple bikes that serve the same purpose. Happy to see some reasoning in the industry
Yes you can, it comes with a base spacer that allows you to run any cockpit you fancy, but this means a little hydraulic hose and shift housing/wire (depending on your groupset) will be exposed. Nevertheless, it'll still look cleaner than the Tarmac SL6.
Specialized, ya inmersa hace tiempo en la historia de la evolución tecnológica de la bicicleta. sabemos que China es la gran fabricante de bicis, pero la norteamericana tiene su lugar en el top ten ciclista. Gracias por el video 🚴♂️
My summary of the fallacies of Specialized: '45 seconds faster' is a bad way of putting it; there are no other given units (for what speed over what terrain, if real world?), tested in their own wind tunnel (not independently, even the video clips show the riders head on as well) without realistic factors (rider on the bike, wheel combos) etc. Also, the graph they show has no axis units (so there's no way of telling the margin of improvement against other bikes, plus how are those measured? Probably in a weird condition where their bike is faster). The graph also shows that the bike is a compromise of both bikes (heavier than the SL6, less aero than the venge). None of it makes scientific sense, it's all cheeky testing. And yep, going back to an old type of BB after their faith in press fit proves that if they were wrong in the past with that, they could well be wrong now.
They are trying to convince their consumers, that having one bike is best, but really they are probably trying to cut down on manufacturing costs, by reducing the different types of frames they have to produce.
@@binkzera2777 Manufacturing costs wouldn't be the problem- once they've got the moulds for the frames then they're dead cheap to make in the factories. It's the design, testing and marketing that are the biggest costs. Also, their older models and former knowledge means that their design process is relatively cheap too. All in all they're just making bigger profits with cheaper costs and cheeky (but I'll admit, clever) marketing.
Francis Schofield Moulds are expensive af though, but I guess you’re right. The thing that annoys me, is that they try to pass a bike, which is clearly a compromise, off as though it’s not a compromise. An all out aero bike, is the faster bike, on flat courses. It makes sense for most consumers to just have one bike, and I’m not mad about that, just that it’s misleading marketing. Who am I kidding though, I wasn’t gonna buy a venge, and I’m not gonna but this.
Yes yes - the mythological aeroad. Getting thoroughly sick of waiting to be able to order one, hence id rather pay a bike maker that has decent service
Is the 40km time comparison with or without bottles and how big is the effect of a bottle or two on the bike? How much slower compared to a clean frame without any bottles and bottle cages?
My lbs already built one for a customer. Sworks model. Looks like a "baby venge". Aesthetics wise, looks like a slight upgrade from the sl6. But I totally dig the Black Carbon to green fade!! Looks amazit!
Eugene Tsang I ordered the red tint carbon. The 7k version with di2 the bike also comes in a 1x sram version. I am not sure how I feel about 1x on a road bike.
Can anybody tell me if the Tarmac SL7 seatpost has the same cross sectional dimensions as last year's SL6? I'm trying to get a gopro mount for the seatpost for my SL7.
all comments some truth, end of the story, who in the world at Specialized is in charge of the the paint colors ? At that price tag, I want my own color !!
Hey Chris You, Nice video, but what's the point for the detailed video of your company and the hype with the bike when I have bought a bike early May and I haven't seen it yet? Yes I purchased a bike early May and was promised to have it in my hands a week after purchase. After many weeks, the store Safety Cycle finally told me it's out of his hands. I tried calling you guys with all the numbers I can find and even emailed you guys but to no avail. I finally got an email that I will be contacted but that was like 6 weeks ago and no contact yet. WTF
ready to buy a used one in 5 years 💪🏽
Me too, kkkk
Unfortunately they may only last 4 years.
EXPENSIVE 😂😂
Giant >> Specialized. FACT + VALUE
Make it 10years for me.
@@Max__apex yes haha
When you buy the SL7, even your wallet becomes aero.
Mine has been aero even before i saw the $18,000 price tag.
and seriously fuckin light weight
@@maple4567 how can a bike be that expensive
MrLol07 Yes it’s ridiculous. $18K can buy me a well spec motorcycle.
@@DrLol07 Material, components, manufacturing costs, labour costs, amount of technology used to develop the product etc...
"Our engineers have been working on this for several years. And, we've gone back to threaded BB because our engineers can't get tooling tolerances right for press fit. So, we'll take a step backwards as market it as an improvement and charge you extra".
14:02 my guy cutting that steerer freehand is the gnarliest athlete in this video
*Works great my **Latest.Bike** I have a bad knee so I still get exercise but the bike assists me. I am a big guy so I didn’t think it would go as fast but it works great.*
When can I buy this on zwift? Only place I have enough money 😂
Well done Specialized. What an amazing presentation and launch video. I’m sure it was an incredible amount of work putting all this together and years in the making. I ordered the SL7 Pro SRAM. Can’t wait to ride it!
The highlight of this will be the threaded bottom bracket. Specialized throwing up the white flag
🤮
Lmao true
Spot on.
"Now the old threaded bottom bracket... in my opinion, a well manufactured press fit is far superior. ...you have to remember that the threaded cup that you are threading into your frame has got the bearing pressed into it so why are you replicating that? The only reason you are replicating that is because you are admitting that you can’t make that (press fit) interface to the required accuracy and repeatability. By going back to a threaded bottom bracket, you are basically saying that we don’t have the ability to manufacture this part at this accuracy and repeatability and still maximize our profit... there is no technical reason why it is better.”
Luescher Teknik
ruclips.net/video/aQ5aNlfRBr4/видео.html
pm trieve I agree, but as we all have heard on our local group rides: manufacturers can’t hold those tolerances
My 2004 Tarmac Expert with carbon Reynolds Assault hoops and matching yellow Michelin tyres looks great and still a rocket!
I still have my Tarmac SL3 and I'm still very happy with it.
Still have my Tarmac SL4 Pro Ultegra build and love it....
One Bike to Rule Them All . . . So if I buy one, can I call it "My Precious?"
As long as you don’t want an aethos
The Williams Brothers section of this was awesome. Can we please have more coverage of them?
There is an extended version of their segment on thr nationsnumberonebeast channel
So sick!!! Way to expensive for me but man this bike is fire. Also I love the promo video with legion
I looooovveddd the SL5 look. Incredible lines.
I have one in green and black. Went with ENVE SES wheels and bar.
No Regrets!!!
Awesome bike.
I just bought the sagan 2019 overexposed venge frame set and suddenly this came out LOL
Oof
it's still a great frame :)
Welcome to Capitalism. Your new purchase is outdated the day after you buy it. Doesn't make it a bad bike though.
Well, then you still have the fastest specialized there is.
They pretty much tell you that the only reason that this bike exists is that the riders that had a venge and a tarmac didn't want to choose which one to ride today.
That’s one way to announce you’re discontinuing the venge. ;)
Pile on the hype, fits the brand to a T
Give this man a raise. Wonderful presentation coupled with an amazing video.
"to rule them all"
Just wait for the SL8!
Yep, then they will say that the SL7 will not actually have been very aero or light after all...
Because we have a word called innovation
lawrence mauricio getting back to threaded bottom bracket isn’t exactly what I’d call innovation
@@franciss2529 the innovation that i'm talking about is the profile and tubing of this bike that makes it 45 seconds faster from sl6....innovation is not about the bb shell of a bike
@@lawrencemauricio7874 '45 seconds faster' is a bad way of putting it; there are no other given units (for what speed+ distance over what terrain?), tested in their own wind tunnel (not independently) without realistic factors (rider on the bike, wheel combos) etc. Also, the graph they show has no axis units (so there's no way of telling the margin of improvement) and the bike is a compromise of both bikes (heavier than the SL6, less aero than the venge). None of it makes scientific sense and it's all cheeky marketing and testing.
And yep, going back to an old type of BB after their faith in press fit proves that if they were wrong in the past with that, they could well be wrong now.
The SL7 looks sick! Need to upgrade my legs..
Hopfully the SL6 gets cheaper now :D
Yup they've all been discounted at my local shop. $500 cheaper
@@benjaminafflerbach5089 more discount = better, even though the wallet is not that aero as it would be without discount :D
@@benjaminafflerbach5089 Just finished to build one, Sworks sl6 rim brake version.
What a joy to ride
Looking forward to the release!
How quick does it snap the steerer?
Very nice video. The one that convinces me to get one. Question about the wind tunnel how do the researches simulate bike yaw and lateral play? a real ride is not perfectly perpendicular to the ground nor is the bike supported with balancers.
The bike is on a turntable.
But what about the Allez Sprint? Is that still going to be around? Been a while since that was updated
Major update to to the allez in 2018 my dude.
So maybe 2022 or 2023
Yay! We´re proud to host the German Premiere of this bike live in our Store in Hamburg, Germany!
Finally ditched BB30 like they should have 10 years ago.
my bb30 is creaking as we speak
@@jortevers234 Same here.... :(
As a studying mechanical engineer and cyclist.... this is my dream job
SL7,YES!
Ready to open the wallet...
Hi bro
@@Viscosity201 Yeah bro, WU
ready to sell my car...
I opened my wallet, but it's empty.
My dream bike，working hard for it !
And here I am, still rocking the Sagan 2015 tarmac sl5
It will worth the wait ;)
피토형이다~
Too bad they don’t make enough of their lower priced models.
get that sweet MAMIL cash.
half of the bike price goes into marketing material
Beautiful bike. Well done to the team at Specialized who worked on this. It’s a work of art.
OH MAN I CANT WAIT
Only If I could afford one, but excited for the launch. (:
Setting my alarm clock for this one! I’m expecting big things and the VR/AR looks great! Is there somewhere other than the ride app you can view it? The Vr bike not showing up in my feed.. Expecting big things from Shimano at the same time 😉
I look forward to it
Whats the future of the Venge?
I'm looking to buy a new bike without compromises. Can Specialized tell me if this bike has any compromises?
Hardly, if any.
No compromises, one bike to rule them all
Hope this gets followed by other 2021 entry level road bikes! 🚴🏽♂️
Funny how pinarello said that having more than one bike isn't that great a long time ago. Seems like most companies are finally starting to see this. No-one wants multiple bikes that serve the same purpose. Happy to see some reasoning in the industry
18k for a freaking bike is not logical reasoning, seems like year after year, this sport is turning into a sport for Rich Middle aged men.
This new Vengmac is more expensive than having both used Venge and Tarmac
Tarmenge bro, get on-board.
can you change the cockpit to some aftermarket thou? thats the question
Yes you can, it comes with a base spacer that allows you to run any cockpit you fancy, but this means a little hydraulic hose and shift housing/wire (depending on your groupset) will be exposed. Nevertheless, it'll still look cleaner than the Tarmac SL6.
Whatever you guys do, please don't kill off the VENGE.
Specialized, ya inmersa hace tiempo en la historia de la evolución tecnológica de la bicicleta. sabemos que China es la gran fabricante de bicis, pero la norteamericana tiene su lugar en el top ten ciclista. Gracias por el video 🚴♂️
This video deserves an Oscar for short film
I haven’t seen the bike but i know I’ll buy it
13:22 i think the seatposts are a little to low...looks like that to me at least
So you’re telling me the venge suddenly isn’t the fasted bike lol.?
lol 🤣🤣🤣
Yes it was compromised...
Soon to be seen crashing in many NorCal road races near you :P
Great looking bike though.
😂
Was gonna buy a BMC then this comes out, right on time👍🏼
I NEEEEEED ONE WOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Estou esperando os modinhas de Barra forte .👊
Haven't I've seen this same video by Cervelo like 10 yrs ago.
My summary of the fallacies of Specialized:
'45 seconds faster' is a bad way of putting it; there are no other given units (for what speed over what terrain, if real world?), tested in their own wind tunnel (not independently, even the video clips show the riders head on as well) without realistic factors (rider on the bike, wheel combos) etc. Also, the graph they show has no axis units (so there's no way of telling the margin of improvement against other bikes, plus how are those measured? Probably in a weird condition where their bike is faster). The graph also shows that the bike is a compromise of both bikes (heavier than the SL6, less aero than the venge). None of it makes scientific sense, it's all cheeky testing.
And yep, going back to an old type of BB after their faith in press fit proves that if they were wrong in the past with that, they could well be wrong now.
Marketing, marketing, marketing, and then some more marketing.
They are trying to convince their consumers, that having one bike is best, but really they are probably trying to cut down on manufacturing costs, by reducing the different types of frames they have to produce.
@@binkzera2777 Manufacturing costs wouldn't be the problem- once they've got the moulds for the frames then they're dead cheap to make in the factories. It's the design, testing and marketing that are the biggest costs. Also, their older models and former knowledge means that their design process is relatively cheap too. All in all they're just making bigger profits with cheaper costs and cheeky (but I'll admit, clever) marketing.
Francis Schofield Moulds are expensive af though, but I guess you’re right. The thing that annoys me, is that they try to pass a bike, which is clearly a compromise, off as though it’s not a compromise. An all out aero bike, is the faster bike, on flat courses. It makes sense for most consumers to just have one bike, and I’m not mad about that, just that it’s misleading marketing. Who am I kidding though, I wasn’t gonna buy a venge, and I’m not gonna but this.
@@binkzera2777 Yep, exactly.
I'll buy it
The Sagan version is so good!
wonderful bike ever seen
Yeahh... already order. 👍🏼
How many times did you hear 'no compromises'
Sweet bike!
Now Sagan will eat the hills? Can sagan comeback next year with this bike? I would like to know!
Looks amazing. Especially that dipped brown swirl color they showed some clips of. If only it was a few grand cheaper 😭
Ruling is about the legs..
So no more Venge?
So they made their own Dogma, the aero all rounder~!!
So you made a bike for Sauron?
I am so excited for this!!!!! Specialized is the best.
Canyon Aeroad all the way. but need to see the review from a smart independent people $$$ after their use and let the people decide. Roll on!
Yes yes - the mythological aeroad. Getting thoroughly sick of waiting to be able to order one, hence id rather pay a bike maker that has decent service
Looking forward to that moment. 🚴🏻♂️ 🚴🏻♂️🚴🏻♂️ 🇧🇷
For 25 years I've been told lighter and stiffer is better, this heavier and less stiff version of the S-Works is going to take some getting used to.
Is it true that Sram axis groupset is heavier than Ultegra Di2??--
Now we want the details about the Demo bikes :)
Combine the best of Venge and Tarmac, oh and also combine the cost
Recall coming. The best disposable cheap Chinese manufactured frameset you Can wildly over pay for. LOL
Didn't know there was a reboot of LOTR on the way with Sagan playing Aragorn!
Is the 40km time comparison with or without bottles and how big is the effect of a bottle or two on the bike? How much slower compared to a clean frame without any bottles and bottle cages?
And how does ist compare to the current venge? How much slower is it in comparison to the venge?
With bottles! All of our Win Tunnel frame testing is with bottles. H2O is essential.
Wonder when they will actually be available at the local bike shops.
I just ordered one they are shipping in 3 weeks small numbers
Ryan Brown me too.. i already order..
My lbs already built one for a customer. Sworks model. Looks like a "baby venge". Aesthetics wise, looks like a slight upgrade from the sl6. But I totally dig the Black Carbon to green fade!! Looks amazit!
Eugene Tsang I ordered the red tint carbon. The 7k version with di2 the bike also comes in a 1x sram version. I am not sure how I feel about 1x on a road bike.
Can I try it?
Dammit i might need to buy this
It's nice and all, but if it's fusing the Tarmac and the Venge, shouldn't it be a new bike, instead of a new tarmac but with aero stem?
I need one!
Excessive prices for the SL7 family but very good advertising
make sure it is hambini approved
Sensavional essa maquina
Great bikes work well with great riders. Luck doesn't hurt either... p.s. I'm not that great, so I just need a stump jumper.
Which smart watch is Chris wearing on his right hand?
(on his left hand is an Apple Watch)
Not smart watch, it’s a whoop
@@LarsRR Thanks man. But what is it, activity tracker?
I'm still using the sl4 XD
Same! lol
Can anybody tell me if the Tarmac SL7 seatpost has the same cross sectional dimensions as last year's SL6? I'm trying to get a gopro mount for the seatpost for my SL7.
No, the SL7's seatpost depth is greater than the SL6's.
@@yonglingng5640 Thanks for letting me know!
You're welcome.
Sencillamente increíble
all comments some truth, end of the story, who in the world at Specialized is in charge of the the paint colors ? At that price tag, I want my own color !!
Orbea OMX
Hey Chris You, Nice video, but what's the point for the detailed video of your company and the hype with the bike when I have bought a bike early May and I haven't seen it yet? Yes I purchased a bike early May and was promised to have it in my hands a week after purchase. After many weeks, the store Safety Cycle finally told me it's out of his hands. I tried calling you guys with all the numbers I can find and even emailed you guys but to no avail. I finally got an email that I will be contacted but that was like 6 weeks ago and no contact yet. WTF
But when can we merged an endurance bike with a race by bike. Maybe never!
So which version can I get with one kidney?
As my predict, New slogan is One for All. then what's the next roubaix?
Probably as aero and lightweight as Tarmac except with the 300g Future Shock?
“Fastest for any course” “no compromises” But it’s still slower than the Venge, on flat courses, right? That’s called compromising, wth Specialized?
Good vid but why didn’t we hear from Number One Beast who blazes in criterium ?