I have the TP link BE95 and it is very impressive. Your review of this system fits in well with the lower broad band consumer and will give them incredible reliability. Thus far I am very impressed with TP link and they will give you bang for the buck. this is coming from an Asus fan as well
finally, a reviewer with actual multigig doing the test. saw a few other reviewers bottlenecked at 1gbe networking trying to speed test the wifi 7 stuff 🙄 Anyway good job
I bought two of these on Amazon for $399. I hooked them up with the Main router in my office on the 2nd floor and the satellite I placed downstairs. It works beautifully. I hope it holds up for a long time.
Great review. I just upgraded to the BE63 from an old Linksys Velop mesh system that suffered far too many hardware and outages during their firmware updates over the years. One additional feature I think you missed: it offers a dedicated IoT SSID @ 2.5GHz. This is great to separate out a lot of devices I don’t visible on my main network. Keep up the great work!
i have this one and it is insanely good and stable. best wifi 7 for the money for sure. im happy with it. I get my full 1.2gig speeds everywhere in my house.
I purchased this based on your reviews, you provide great detail on the product and I appreciate that. Unfortunately, the unit I had dropped clients each day and was very unreliable. When it worked, it was incredible but each day something in my house failed to connect which was frustrating. Maybe a one off but I would not recommend Deco based on my experience. Still, appreciate your review.
Any advice?? I’m really considering this because of the four 2.5 ports. I have 1.2gb internet and want full wired internet speeds on my desktops for gaming. I don’t need crazy WiFi. I just got the x55pro (two 2.5s) but it has mild latency issues for gaming over Ethernet, and fluctuates speeds quite a bit. I have an asus et12 sitting in the box I was going to try next. But then I saw this and thought hmmm. Any recommendation for which would be the very best mesh for wired gaming?
If we’re talking about wired only, this has no advantage over the ASUS. ASUS makes solid routers as well and I really like their products. Try it out and see how that works, if it’s great no need to switch.
I love your reviews. But I do have a suggestion. Test for router to router wireless backhaul range vs. speed. I have a very large home that currently is facilitated with a 5 router eero pro 6 mesh system. Wired backhaul is not possible for me. Therefore, my primary concern is wireless backhaul performance. But in all the reviews I've watched over the years, everybody tests distance performance with a device like a phone, but nobody seems to test wireless backhaul speeds between routers at various distances apart. I'd say the average distance apart between my routers is probably 50 ft (straight line going through walls and floors). I'd like to see speed numbers with routers 25, 50, 75, and 100 feet apart with a computer hard wired to the remote router. Also, in some cases, it seems like my furthest router is wireless backhaul connected to another router, then that router is wireless backhaul connected to my main router. In this case, one router is behaving as a relay for the far remote router to the main router. How are speeds effected in such a configuration? Any tests that would attempt to address performance under these conditions would be greatly appreciated.
Ordered a BE550. Wasn't happy with the range and noticed these units have a higher dBM on the 6Ghz band. You also covered the Pixel 8 Pro not working with MLO (thought I was going crazy). Thanks for your solid review. 👍
Yeah, i thought i was going crazy, thought my phone was defective at first, then tried it with the Pixel 8 (non pro) and same issue. Luckily I have the OnePlus and that works without issue. I wanted to mention it just in case people have the Pixel and wonder why they're not getting the speeds I'm getting. Glad you enjoyed the review!
@@landpet you are correct. Been living with it a bit and it solved many issues I had with my OG Velop. Thanks for your reviews. Very helpful in making the decision with confidence.
Awesome review. Looks like my next mesh system. How many and what type (Stud, block, brick) walls are the 20ft and 50ft range including? I think it would be cool on these reviews to flash up a floor plan of where these are placed for the test indicating what types of walls are included
Thanks! 20ft is line of sight with a few things in the surrounding 50 ft is a wall (studs) and a window in stucco with some obstructions in the surrounding area
I have 1.6Gbps internet, so in that case the BE63 (BE65 here in the UK) - would be the better/more sensible option over the BE85? Would there be any real reason to get the BE85 over the BE65 for my speeds?
Anyone think this would be a good improvement over an Eero Pro 6 system? Not just speed but reliability. Trying to get a new system as the Eero’s are rented by my ISP.
This is better than the BE63, granted I was happy with the eero Pro 6 thanks to its reliability. The main difference you will notice with this is the great wireless backhaul speeds.
Question, if I use a single wireless backhauled BE63 with two BE95’s one as ISP connection but wireless mesh to the other; will using the 63 drop the performance of the 95-95 connection? Due to the 63 not being able to operate on 6-2?
Hi. Been looking around doing research on different mesh systems and wanted to get your input. What mesh would work well on a 2 story house with concrete walls? Been having constant problems with connection drops. Thanks and Happy Holidays!
This one is very good, if this doesn't work well you may want to consider getting a MoCA 2.5 adapter as well. It allows Ethernet to go over Coax. I've done a few videos on this as well with the Asus MoCA. Happy Holidays
Quick question for a novice: I hooked these up today to my Verizon Fios 6E router/modem. Am I good to go with that setup? Or should I upgrade my router/modem to something like the TP-Link BE19000? I want to take full advantage of wifi7 and give my house the fastest speeds. Is my current router fine or is it slowing me down? And what would you recommend if it is slowing me down? Thanks so much! I can’t seem to find the answer to this anywhere…
Do you happen to know if a be63 node is capable of delivering more than 2.5Gb to a wifi7 device, if it's connected to a main BE85 with a wireless backhaul? (basically getting rid of the ethernet port limitations)
Yes, the main advantage of the BE16000 is the wireless backhaul speeds. It also did get better range overall in my testing. So if it's the same price, BE16000 is better. If it costs more, then that's your choice.
Thanks for the info. Can BE63 use wifi 7 as the dedicated wireless backhaul ? is BE63's dedicated wireless backhaul performing better than XE75 Pro in distance between the main router and satellites ?
The Mesh System I have been waiting Asus to do since a couple of years since they offer more local control without any subscription but it is taking them for ever to do a true design update
@landpet, your reviews are so good and informative. I currently have 3 Eero 6E Pro's and am really disappointed in the wireless backhaul. I am considering tp-link. I am having an Apple Homekit based smart home and I read many issues in combination with Deco systems. Do you have any experience or suggestions where to find more information to prevent any issues? Thank you in advance!
Thanks! I don’t really use HomeKit, I have a couple things but I mainly use Google and Alexa for that. But I don’t understand how a mesh system would not allow something on your network to communicate with one another. When I ask my HomePod mini to find my iPhone, that works fine no matter which mesh I’m using. But if a problem does exist which again doesn’t make sense to me fundamentally then the Asus XT9 is an excellent choice for superior wireless backhaul speeds for a relatively low price. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the amazing review. I just got the BE63 but I am getting exactly half the speeds 700-800 Mbps on either MLO or 5G, using an iPhone 16 Pro for testing. What am I doing wrong ?
What are your internet speeds? You could do a local speed test that will bypass internet speeds, most of my speed tests use this method. Here's a video on how to do that if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/9NIHAmVkomk/видео.html
I really need help, @landpet. I purchased a TP-Link Deco BE63 BE10000 Two Pack, and neither is working as intended or as advertised. The setup process takes forever and barely works no matter what I do. The Deco cannot be found, the network settings will not set, and when it is finally set up, the network immediately drops out, and the light on the front turns red, requiring a reboot. The backhaul doesn't want to work, and the speed is barely going over 200 Mbps, despite paying for 1 Gbps and getting it on my old router. Also, when I use the Network Optimization Tool, it does its thing and says the network is now perfect, then immediately drops out and slows down to a crawl. Finally, even though I'm using a 6 GHz device, when I connect to the 6 GHz band, it doesn't even work, and MLO isn't even working on MLO-supported devices either. If you could give me some insight or advice, I'd really appreciate it, as I'm out $750.00 AUD and have two devices that refuse to work no matter what I do.
I’m wondering your setup is correct. Try watching this video, the concept is the same as the be63. So anytime I say xe75, pretend I’m saying be63. Obviously BE63 can handle faster speeds. TP Link Deco XE75 Setup Guide | FAQ's Answered | All Configs Shown ruclips.net/video/QVKRQDokkhE/видео.html Right off the bat though, it sounds like your old router is on and the signal is interfering with the deco.
Any concerns about this appearing to have MIMO 2x2 compared to the BE85/95 having MIMO 4x4 (according to TP-LINK’s specs pages). All of my wireless devices are 2x2, however I’m not sure if 4x4 would improve range or signal quality? I've read mixed things online about this, however I do notice the BE63's speed is lower at 50 & 100ft compared to your review of the BE85/EERO/ORBI
Great review! Thank you posting it. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a Deco BE85 2-pack, but now I'm wondering if the BE63 2-pack would be a better option, especially since my Verizon FIOS is currently capped at 1GB, with no plans to go above 2GB anytime soon. Aside from that, my other concern is Wi-Fi signal range. Is the BE85 signifcantly better than the BE63 in terns of range? Thanks!
@@landpet Sounds good. One thing I noticed when I compared your BE63 range test vs the BE85 is that the BE63 upload range was significantly less, percentage-wise, than that of the BE85. Do you know why that was? Maybe a firmware issue? Also, did you happen to test the range with 2.4 and 5GHz clients? The only reason I ask is I have a (6) Nest Battery Cams that I'm having a problem reaching with my Synology RT2600ac mesh system. Thanks, again for your help.
How come tp link deco be16000 is quad band cheaper and be85 is tri band I only have two gigs of Internet, I was wondering which one would be better for my usage and all my nodes are wired backhaul I have about 50 devices connected. I am still working off the old Apple time capsules lol.
Hello I have a 1500sq ft loft apartment that has thick walls. Im using a cox modem/router with the router being on top floor. My room is on the bottom floor furthest away from the router. Wifi has to go through a kitchen wall and bathroom wall to get to my room, which makes the signal very weak. I have a tp link XE-200 in the box but now im thinking about getting this for i might try a wired back haul. Which one would would your prefer overall? i have 1 gb internet speed.
For wired backhaul, it won’t make a difference. For wireless backhaul, this will perform better. XE200 is still a fantastic mesh though. But if you ever upgrade to 2Gbps, then this would have the full support for that where the main deco can get 2Gbps (can go up to 10Gbps) but the secondary one won’t. Again for wired backhaul at those speeds, not going to be much different.
Thanks for the great review! I was thinking about getting a 2 pack of the BE10000 and a 2 pack of the XE75 Pro to save some money. I would use 1 of the BE10000 as the main unit connected to the modem and then use the 3 remaining ethernet ports to connect with the other 3 units. Do you think this would work well for getting 1.4 gig internet speeds to all of the units? Thanks!!
No problem, well as soon as it comes out of he XE75 Pro to any device it would be capped to gigabit speeds but if you’re using the XE75 Pro just for WiFi device and this BE63 for the wired, it would be good.
Thanks again! I was hoping that I would be able to use the 3 open 2.5gb ports on the BE1000 in place of using a switch and it sounds like I can. @@landpet
Only if you run the deco in access point mode. It won't be the same app. Archer and deco don't get along directly. Deco with other Deco does. Archer that supports easymesh gets along with other archer
I have a two story house. Probably 2-2.5 sq ft main floor and around 1000 sq ft basement. Which would be better for mainly wireless backhaul? BE63 3 pack or the BE85 2 pack? I could in future setup wired backhaul but that may be a while.
Hey @landpet, I loved the video and really appreciated the information. I was wondering if a TP-Link Deco BE63 BE10000 Two Pack would be more than sufficient for a home built in the 1960s that's 109.19 m² with brick outer walls and gyprock inner walls? The equipment my ISP provided me with, a NetComm NF20MESH Wi-Fi 6 CloudMesh Gateway and a NetComm NS-02 Wi-Fi 6 CloudMesh Satellite, has quite a few issues with range, speed, and connectivity, as well as the occasional drop out or complete blunder. Even though I'm only paying for 1 Gbps, I'd like to utilize all of that speed and have equipment that's best suited for the task.
Cheers, @landpet. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond. Your advice has helped me make an informed decision toward what I'm sure will be an amazing purchase and a phenomenal Wi-Fi 7 mesh system at this particular price point.
@hikeskool I ended up going with the ROG Rapture GT-AX11000 Pro with the intention of eventually upgrading to the ROG Rapture GT-AXE16000 once we have more Wi-Fi 6E clients in the house.
I have a BE85 and it is awesome and no problems. I think TP Link has the best WiFi 7 devices out there. Hopefully it gets better with firmware updates.
I just upgraded my internet from 1gb to 2gb. I currently run an xe5300 (3 units) with 1gb ports. I was wondering if (1) BE63 would be a good front end solution by being the router and the xe5300's as access points. Im also going to replace my 16 port 1gb with an 8 port 2.5gb to send to the PCs in the house. What are your thoughts?
I purchased recently 2xBE85 but i was really disappointed. They deliver slightly better speed than my Zyxel wifi6 ap´s but much worse coverage! And with 20-25 W much more power consumption! They went back to Amazon!
hey there landpet, is there any way of contacting you for some additional wifi/settings advice? and anyway of someone donating to you for all you're hard work? thank you
Either in the comment section or you can email me at asklandpet@gmail.com. If you want to donate, you can just use RUclips’s super thanks on any video. Either way I’m grateful for people watching, subscribing and sharing!
@landpet Got the UK version BE65 (BE9300) awesome piece of kit. Was thinking of getting BE85 (BE19000) 1-pack and set it up as Main Deco source but got a feeling won’t see much difference and I will be wasting my money. The setup will be wireless backhaul. Just wondering what you think 🤔 😊 TIA
@@NotHimJim I took the bullet and bought BE65 (1). Don’t expect a noticeable performance or most of your devices be on BE85. Only bought it because I can at the time and upstairs BE65 was hovering 1-2bars from Main and downstairs BE65. 😁
Overall this is better performance especially in terms of wireless backhaul speeds. Asus however has a ton of options and I wouldn't be surprised if the Asus et12 pro offer better range tests overall.
@@hikeskool yes. Coming from the old rb50 orbi, every thing is better. Better coverage, better app interface, slight boost in speed. Bonus now I have 6g band for the newer Apple products.
could you please test setting up of VPN services on these routers e.g. NordVPN? Would be keen to see how devices do when you stick them all behind a fast VPN service on the router. Would also love to see what services are available e.g. Meshnet
Weird issue. On my Be63, connected to the modem (wall Ethernet) directly gets me 100Mbps capped DL and up to 1700Mbps upload on 2GB Fiber. My Xe75 connected to fiber gets me 700/1000 Be63 connected to 1GB cable gets me 1056/37 Xe75 1GB cable 930/31 Provided router to 2GB fiber 840/1100 Fiber speed test at modem 2100/2400 No matter what I do, I can't get over 100Mbps with fiber on the Be63
try restarting your modem (turn it off and wait 2 min before turning it on) then turn on your Deco. Also best to use a cat6a/cat7/cat8 cable to ensure you can get faster speeds than gigabit. I've seen cat5e go faster but only with super short cables.
It is combined speed not tge mac speed. That is why reviewers likeus wants to reallyeducate cobsumers..because most manufacturers would say it is max speed but it is really combined speed
Yeah so when they say that, they mean a summation of all the speeds of all the bands. That’s how the speed rating is determined. Hence it’s BE10000 where BE denotes WiFi 7 just like AXE denotes WiFi 6E and AX denotes WiFi 6, AC denotes WiFi 5 and so on…. So they add the theoretical maximum of all the bands (three in this case) and round the number to get to the speed rating. There’s no way anyones going to get 10Gbps transfer speeds on WiFi with this.
On the secondary devices or if you have a WiFi 7 device. The backhaul on this is better but XE75 is still fairly good so it’s not going to be a huge difference between the two at those speeds
I wonder what speed would i get having a samsung ultra 24 and Having 2g fiber at home, im getting mines tomorrow and hoping for a good 1,500 upload, 1,000 download atleast hard wired
Question on these. Do these particular Deco's have a fan installed? There's been reports on the Be85's having some loud fan stuff and wanted to know if there is any fans installed, or whether you noticed any fan noise during your testing.
Does TP Link dictate what you can and cannot say in the review of these, and they then view the video before you are allowed to upload it? I heard they do that with their security cameras.
Hey love your channel just after some advice I’m undecided between this and the xe75 pro. I have 1g internet and plan to use wireless back haul for the satellite and approx 30 devices on wifi no wifi 7 devices though
Thanks! This is clearly better than the XE75 Pro but for those speeds you will not notice a huge difference. Deal wise the XE75 Pro is more ideal, I would even consider the XE75 if youre looking for a great deal or get this for slightly better performance
I did that for a while then switched most of them to my main wifi but some of these mesh systems, I can't remember if this one supports it or not, but they actually have a separate IoT WiFi. I would use that instead. I personally don't use the IoT WiFi cause I switch routers all the time and not every router has that so it would be too much work to reset all my cameras otherwise if I had one mesh, I would definitely use the IoT WiFi for my smart home devices including cameras.
I will go for TP-Link's Deco BE65 wifi 7 3 band 3-pack Mesh System , Reliable and stable ! cheaper than BE 85 Unable to cover large area / dead corner , able to 【ADD-ON】 BE65 2-pack or 3-pack 👍👍👍👍
@@landpet thanks! Yesterday I purchased the new TP-Link BE9300 (Archer BE550) router. Was debating if I should do the Deco BE63. But as a standalone, looks like the Archer is better. Thoughts? I do want a mesh system and I know I can do mesh with the Archer as well. I just figured I can upgrade to a true mesh when I move into a bigger home with multiple floors.
65 has a slightly faster speed rating, so I imagine it would be a tiny bit better in theory for wireless backhaul or wireless devices but in reality would hardly be noticeable based on specs but I haven’t tried that one yet so can’t say with absolute certainty
*landpet* I remember you mentioning that your internet speeds are 5 Gbps (download/upload). What Steam download speeds do you achieve, in gigabits, when you download a game to your computer? And which CPU do you have in your gaming rig? I'm asking because I'm currently experiencing a CPU bottleneck when I transfer a games on my LAN from one computer to another. On my Ryzen 5 7600 rig that I transferring from, 7 out of 12 threads are at 100% and bottlenecks what should be a 2.5 gbps transfer to only 1.7 gbps. I've asked you these two questions because I'd like to know what's realistically achievable. Thank you in advance and Happy New Year.
Hi, thanks for the video. I'm planning to get either Deco BE63 or Deco XE75. My internet speed is only 100 Mbps and I only have Wifi 6E devices for now. I was wondering whether the wifi 7 alone would significantly increase internet speed. Can you make comparison between wifi 7 and wifi 6e router for internet speed below 1 Gbps?
It makes a lot of sense if you don't have wired backhaul and have 1 Gbps internet. That wireless backhaul moves! I don't really see the benefit of > 1Gbps internet to the home other than for bragging rights. I've never saturated the internet connection other than doing speed tests.
Can anyone else duplicate this? Can anyone comment on wired 2.5Gb performance when using wireless backhaul? That’s primarily what I’m looking for here👌
@@landpet yeah neither have I. And I don't even think I'd use it. But at these prices and being their top products feels like a A bit of a oversight when the whole world, even apple finally is moving on
I wish some of these would have the option to set up a secondary SSID for a different VLAN. I share my internet connection with my parents and we split the internet connection into two seperate local networks. None of these amazing mesh systems support anything which comes even close to that
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Hi, would you recommend, a 2pack of this system or the ASUS ET12 (which is more expensive)..? My speed internet is 1 GB, I’m planning to set it wire backhaul, I don’t own any WiFi 7 devices and not planning on buying one anytime soon. Or what mesh system would you recommend…? something not too expensive and not too cheap. Thanks
Thanks for the info. Can BE63 use wifi 7 as the dedicated wireless backhaul ? is BE63's dedicated wireless backhaul performing better than XE75 Pro in distance between the main router and satellites ?
Yes and yes. This has very good backhaul speeds, much better than any WiFi 6E system. It’s more noticeable if you have internet speeds faster than gigabit
WiFi 6E devices can connect to the 6GHz band on this assuming it’s not being used as a dedicated backhaul. 2.4GHz is typically for smart home devices or if you get fairly far away from this with normal WiFi devices like a modern smartphone
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I have the TP link BE95 and it is very impressive. Your review of this system fits in well with the lower broad band consumer and will give them incredible reliability.
Thus far I am very impressed with TP link and they will give you bang for the buck.
this is coming from an Asus fan as well
Deco devices offer great performance for the price, not as many options as Asus but still a normal amount that should satisfy most people
Thank you for the video. I got the TP-Link's Deco BE65 (BE9300) which is the EU version - $639. And it is amazing no problems at all sold speed
You're welcome! Glad it's working well for you!
dude thank you for doing this i was literally looking for a review like this
Glad I could help!
finally, a reviewer with actual multigig doing the test. saw a few other reviewers bottlenecked at 1gbe networking trying to speed test the wifi 7 stuff 🙄 Anyway good job
Thanks, yeah I upgraded to see how fast these things can actually go
I bought two of these on Amazon for $399. I hooked them up with the Main router in my office on the 2nd floor and the satellite I placed downstairs. It works beautifully. I hope it holds up for a long time.
Great review. I just upgraded to the BE63 from an old Linksys Velop mesh system that suffered far too many hardware and outages during their firmware updates over the years.
One additional feature I think you missed: it offers a dedicated IoT SSID @ 2.5GHz. This is great to separate out a lot of devices I don’t visible on my main network.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks, it's a great mesh
Are you still happy with it?
Thanks!
You’re welcome and thanks again!
i have this one and it is insanely good and stable. best wifi 7 for the money for sure. im happy with it. I get my full 1.2gig speeds everywhere in my house.
yes, it honestly is great
Are you still happy with it?
Excellent review. Although I wish TP -LINK would put the backhaul on the 5ghz for better range.
I purchased this based on your reviews, you provide great detail on the product and I appreciate that. Unfortunately, the unit I had dropped clients each day and was very unreliable. When it worked, it was incredible but each day something in my house failed to connect which was frustrating. Maybe a one off but I would not recommend Deco based on my experience. Still, appreciate your review.
Any advice?? I’m really considering this because of the four 2.5 ports. I have 1.2gb internet and want full wired internet speeds on my desktops for gaming. I don’t need crazy WiFi. I just got the x55pro (two 2.5s) but it has mild latency issues for gaming over Ethernet, and fluctuates speeds quite a bit. I have an asus et12 sitting in the box I was going to try next. But then I saw this and thought hmmm. Any recommendation for which would be the very best mesh for wired gaming?
If we’re talking about wired only, this has no advantage over the ASUS. ASUS makes solid routers as well and I really like their products. Try it out and see how that works, if it’s great no need to switch.
What did you end your going with?
@@hikeskoolasus et12. Works perfectly
I love your reviews. But I do have a suggestion. Test for router to router wireless backhaul range vs. speed. I have a very large home that currently is facilitated with a 5 router eero pro 6 mesh system. Wired backhaul is not possible for me. Therefore, my primary concern is wireless backhaul performance. But in all the reviews I've watched over the years, everybody tests distance performance with a device like a phone, but nobody seems to test wireless backhaul speeds between routers at various distances apart. I'd say the average distance apart between my routers is probably 50 ft (straight line going through walls and floors). I'd like to see speed numbers with routers 25, 50, 75, and 100 feet apart with a computer hard wired to the remote router. Also, in some cases, it seems like my furthest router is wireless backhaul connected to another router, then that router is wireless backhaul connected to my main router. In this case, one router is behaving as a relay for the far remote router to the main router. How are speeds effected in such a configuration? Any tests that would attempt to address performance under these conditions would be greatly appreciated.
Ordered a BE550. Wasn't happy with the range and noticed these units have a higher dBM on the 6Ghz band. You also covered the Pixel 8 Pro not working with MLO (thought I was going crazy). Thanks for your solid review. 👍
Yeah, i thought i was going crazy, thought my phone was defective at first, then tried it with the Pixel 8 (non pro) and same issue. Luckily I have the OnePlus and that works without issue.
I wanted to mention it just in case people have the Pixel and wonder why they're not getting the speeds I'm getting.
Glad you enjoyed the review!
I want to get the BE550 but I was worried about range, how big is your home? and did you get connection out front and backyard of your home?
Your reviews are great and just ordered the XE70pro since i am only 1gigabit.
Thanks and that’s a fantastic choice
@@landpet you are correct. Been living with it a bit and it solved many issues I had with my OG Velop. Thanks for your reviews. Very helpful in making the decision with confidence.
Awesome review. Looks like my next mesh system. How many and what type (Stud, block, brick) walls are the 20ft and 50ft range including? I think it would be cool on these reviews to flash up a floor plan of where these are placed for the test indicating what types of walls are included
Thanks!
20ft is line of sight with a few things in the surrounding
50 ft is a wall (studs) and a window in stucco with some obstructions in the surrounding area
Did you end up getting it?
I have 1.6Gbps internet, so in that case the BE63 (BE65 here in the UK) - would be the better/more sensible option over the BE85?
Would there be any real reason to get the BE85 over the BE65 for my speeds?
Anyone think this would be a good improvement over an Eero Pro 6 system? Not just speed but reliability. Trying to get a new system as the Eero’s are rented by my ISP.
This is better than the BE63, granted I was happy with the eero Pro 6 thanks to its reliability. The main difference you will notice with this is the great wireless backhaul speeds.
Question, if I use a single wireless backhauled BE63 with two BE95’s one as ISP connection but wireless mesh to the other; will using the 63 drop the performance of the 95-95 connection? Due to the 63 not being able to operate on 6-2?
Nice when ever our current nighthawk router goes out we will go with this system. :)
Nice!
Hi. Been looking around doing research on different mesh systems and wanted to get your input. What mesh would work well on a 2 story house with concrete walls? Been having constant problems with connection drops. Thanks and Happy Holidays!
This one is very good, if this doesn't work well you may want to consider getting a MoCA 2.5 adapter as well. It allows Ethernet to go over Coax. I've done a few videos on this as well with the Asus MoCA.
Happy Holidays
What did you end up getting?
Very good review thanks for your effort
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Quick question for a novice: I hooked these up today to my Verizon Fios 6E router/modem. Am I good to go with that setup? Or should I upgrade my router/modem to something like the TP-Link BE19000? I want to take full advantage of wifi7 and give my house the fastest speeds. Is my current router fine or is it slowing me down? And what would you recommend if it is slowing me down? Thanks so much! I can’t seem to find the answer to this anywhere…
Do you happen to know if a be63 node is capable of delivering more than 2.5Gb to a wifi7 device, if it's connected to a main BE85 with a wireless backhaul? (basically getting rid of the ethernet port limitations)
I haven't tested that but I would guess not because of the speed rating of the BE63.
Hello, Is the be16000 available worth the extra $ vs Be63? Looking for a large house coverage. Thank you for your reviews.
Yes, the main advantage of the BE16000 is the wireless backhaul speeds. It also did get better range overall in my testing. So if it's the same price, BE16000 is better. If it costs more, then that's your choice.
great video as always
Thanks again!
I have 1.2 gbps internet, would the BE63 be overkill? I purchased the XE75 pro but have not set it up yet and wondering if that would suffice. Thanks!
Thanks for the info. Can BE63 use wifi 7 as the dedicated wireless backhaul ? is BE63's dedicated wireless backhaul performing better than XE75 Pro in distance between the main router and satellites ?
Yes and yes
The Mesh System I have been waiting Asus to do since a couple of years since they offer more local control without any subscription but it is taking them for ever to do a true design update
I imagine they will in due time
@landpet, your reviews are so good and informative. I currently have 3 Eero 6E Pro's and am really disappointed in the wireless backhaul. I am considering tp-link. I am having an Apple Homekit based smart home and I read many issues in combination with Deco systems. Do you have any experience or suggestions where to find more information to prevent any issues? Thank you in advance!
Thanks! I don’t really use HomeKit, I have a couple things but I mainly use Google and Alexa for that. But I don’t understand how a mesh system would not allow something on your network to communicate with one another. When I ask my HomePod mini to find my iPhone, that works fine no matter which mesh I’m using. But if a problem does exist which again doesn’t make sense to me fundamentally then the Asus XT9 is an excellent choice for superior wireless backhaul speeds for a relatively low price. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the amazing review.
I just got the BE63 but I am getting exactly half the speeds 700-800 Mbps on either MLO or 5G, using an iPhone 16 Pro for testing.
What am I doing wrong ?
What are your internet speeds?
You could do a local speed test that will bypass internet speeds, most of my speed tests use this method. Here's a video on how to do that if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/9NIHAmVkomk/видео.html
I really need help, @landpet. I purchased a TP-Link Deco BE63 BE10000 Two Pack, and neither is working as intended or as advertised. The setup process takes forever and barely works no matter what I do. The Deco cannot be found, the network settings will not set, and when it is finally set up, the network immediately drops out, and the light on the front turns red, requiring a reboot. The backhaul doesn't want to work, and the speed is barely going over 200 Mbps, despite paying for 1 Gbps and getting it on my old router. Also, when I use the Network Optimization Tool, it does its thing and says the network is now perfect, then immediately drops out and slows down to a crawl. Finally, even though I'm using a 6 GHz device, when I connect to the 6 GHz band, it doesn't even work, and MLO isn't even working on MLO-supported devices either. If you could give me some insight or advice, I'd really appreciate it, as I'm out $750.00 AUD and have two devices that refuse to work no matter what I do.
I’m wondering your setup is correct.
Try watching this video, the concept is the same as the be63. So anytime I say xe75, pretend I’m saying be63. Obviously BE63 can handle faster speeds.
TP Link Deco XE75 Setup Guide | FAQ's Answered | All Configs Shown
ruclips.net/video/QVKRQDokkhE/видео.html
Right off the bat though, it sounds like your old router is on and the signal is interfering with the deco.
Any concerns about this appearing to have MIMO 2x2 compared to the BE85/95 having MIMO 4x4 (according to TP-LINK’s specs pages).
All of my wireless devices are 2x2, however I’m not sure if 4x4 would improve range or signal quality?
I've read mixed things online about this, however I do notice the BE63's speed is lower at 50 & 100ft compared to your review of the BE85/EERO/ORBI
BE85/95 is clearly better however you may not notice a difference in certain circumstances such as your devoces only having 2x2 mimo
Difference between the BE63 and the BE65?
I can buy the BE65 here in the UK. (thanks!)
They are basically the same, it’s just the be65 is made for the European market where the WiFi 6 is regulated and is slightly slower on the be65.
Awesome review. Any news on ROG GT BE98 ? Released almost a year ago, but still not in stock anywhere.
Thanks! I haven’t seen the BE98 yet, may get the BE96U early next year.
Great review! Thank you posting it. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a Deco BE85 2-pack, but now I'm wondering if the BE63 2-pack would be a better option, especially since my Verizon FIOS is currently capped at 1GB, with no plans to go above 2GB anytime soon.
Aside from that, my other concern is Wi-Fi signal range. Is the BE85 signifcantly better than the BE63 in terns of range? Thanks!
I would get the be63 for that case
@@landpet Sounds good. One thing I noticed when I compared your BE63 range test vs the BE85 is that the BE63 upload range was significantly less, percentage-wise, than that of the BE85. Do you know why that was? Maybe a firmware issue?
Also, did you happen to test the range with 2.4 and 5GHz clients? The only reason I ask is I have a (6) Nest Battery Cams that I'm having a problem reaching with my Synology RT2600ac mesh system. Thanks, again for your help.
How come tp link deco be16000 is quad band cheaper and be85 is tri band I only have two gigs of Internet, I was wondering which one would be better for my usage and all my nodes are wired backhaul I have about 50 devices connected. I am still working off the old Apple time capsules lol.
Hello I have a 1500sq ft loft apartment that has thick walls. Im using a cox modem/router with the router being on top floor. My room is on the bottom floor furthest away from the router. Wifi has to go through a kitchen wall and bathroom wall to get to my room, which makes the signal very weak. I have a tp link XE-200 in the box but now im thinking about getting this for i might try a wired back haul. Which one would would your prefer overall? i have 1 gb internet speed.
For wired backhaul, it won’t make a difference. For wireless backhaul, this will perform better. XE200 is still a fantastic mesh though. But if you ever upgrade to 2Gbps, then this would have the full support for that where the main deco can get 2Gbps (can go up to 10Gbps) but the secondary one won’t.
Again for wired backhaul at those speeds, not going to be much different.
Thanks for the great review! I was thinking about getting a 2 pack of the BE10000 and a 2 pack of the XE75 Pro to save some money. I would use 1 of the BE10000 as the main unit connected to the modem and then use the 3 remaining ethernet ports to connect with the other 3 units. Do you think this would work well for getting 1.4 gig internet speeds to all of the units? Thanks!!
No problem, well as soon as it comes out of he XE75 Pro to any device it would be capped to gigabit speeds but if you’re using the XE75 Pro just for WiFi device and this BE63 for the wired, it would be good.
Thanks again! I was hoping that I would be able to use the 3 open 2.5gb ports on the BE1000 in place of using a switch and it sounds like I can. @@landpet
I have a TP-Link Archer 550. Can I use all 3 of these as extenders from that?
Only if you run the deco in access point mode. It won't be the same app. Archer and deco don't get along directly. Deco with other Deco does. Archer that supports easymesh gets along with other archer
I have a two story house. Probably 2-2.5 sq ft main floor and around 1000 sq ft basement.
Which would be better for mainly wireless backhaul? BE63 3 pack or the BE85 2 pack?
I could in future setup wired backhaul but that may be a while.
BE63 3 pack (one on each floor)
@@landpet Grabbed it especially since your 10% off coupon stacks with the 10% discount they have now. Thanks!
@@bigsamiabs8416are you happy with the setup?
Hey @landpet, I loved the video and really appreciated the information. I was wondering if a TP-Link Deco BE63 BE10000 Two Pack would be more than sufficient for a home built in the 1960s that's 109.19 m² with brick outer walls and gyprock inner walls? The equipment my ISP provided me with, a NetComm NF20MESH Wi-Fi 6 CloudMesh Gateway and a NetComm NS-02 Wi-Fi 6 CloudMesh Satellite, has quite a few issues with range, speed, and connectivity, as well as the occasional drop out or complete blunder. Even though I'm only paying for 1 Gbps, I'd like to utilize all of that speed and have equipment that's best suited for the task.
Thanks!
Yes 2 pack will be great, even if it's not perfect, it will be much better than your current setup.
Cheers, @landpet. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond. Your advice has helped me make an informed decision toward what I'm sure will be an amazing purchase and a phenomenal Wi-Fi 7 mesh system at this particular price point.
@@fighter2244what did you end up getting?
@hikeskool I ended up going with the ROG Rapture GT-AX11000 Pro with the intention of eventually upgrading to the ROG Rapture GT-AXE16000 once we have more Wi-Fi 6E clients in the house.
I have a BE85 and it is awesome and no problems. I think TP Link has the best WiFi 7 devices out there. Hopefully it gets better with firmware updates.
That’s a fantastic mesh
What WiFi band width do you use 160MHz or 240MHz?
@@gary56 I left it on the default of 160MHz during the testing.
@@gary56There's no such thing as 240mhz channel width, there's only 160mhz and 320mhz as far as i know
@@Unnamed7964 My BE85 has a 240mhz setting.
I just upgraded my internet from 1gb to 2gb. I currently run an xe5300 (3 units) with 1gb ports. I was wondering if (1) BE63 would be a good front end solution by being the router and the xe5300's as access points. Im also going to replace my 16 port 1gb with an 8 port 2.5gb to send to the PCs in the house. What are your thoughts?
BE63 is phenomenal, absolutely worth it
How much does each deco unit weigh?
I purchased recently 2xBE85 but i was really disappointed. They deliver slightly better speed than my Zyxel wifi6 ap´s but much worse coverage! And with 20-25 W much more power consumption! They went back to Amazon!
hey there landpet, is there any way of contacting you for some additional wifi/settings advice? and anyway of someone donating to you for all you're hard work? thank you
Either in the comment section or you can email me at asklandpet@gmail.com. If you want to donate, you can just use RUclips’s super thanks on any video. Either way I’m grateful for people watching, subscribing and sharing!
@landpet Got the UK version BE65 (BE9300) awesome piece of kit. Was thinking of getting BE85 (BE19000) 1-pack and set it up as Main Deco source but got a feeling won’t see much difference and I will be wasting my money. The setup will be wireless backhaul. Just wondering what you think 🤔 😊 TIA
I was thinking the same. Is this something you done, or have you just stuck with the BE65? Thanks.
@@NotHimJim I took the bullet and bought BE65 (1). Don’t expect a noticeable performance or most of your devices be on BE85. Only bought it because I can at the time and upstairs BE65 was hovering 1-2bars from Main and downstairs BE65. 😁
Can you do a review on Asus Zen Wifi ET12 VS Deco BE63?
how would you compare this to the Asus et12 pro
Overall this is better performance especially in terms of wireless backhaul speeds.
Asus however has a ton of options and I wouldn't be surprised if the Asus et12 pro offer better range tests overall.
Mine(2 tower) is out for delivery today! 2.5gb switch should be here Monday.
Nice!
Which switch are you getting?
@@fluidities TP link 8 port.
Are you happy with the BE63?
@@hikeskool yes. Coming from the old rb50 orbi, every thing is better. Better coverage, better app interface, slight boost in speed. Bonus now I have 6g band for the newer Apple products.
Do we have more discount coipon i can use on Amazon
I usually list the coupon codes but if it’s expired, then I don’t have anything
could you please test setting up of VPN services on these routers e.g. NordVPN? Would be keen to see how devices do when you stick them all behind a fast VPN service on the router. Would also love to see what services are available e.g. Meshnet
Weird issue. On my Be63, connected to the modem (wall Ethernet) directly gets me 100Mbps capped DL and up to 1700Mbps upload on 2GB Fiber.
My Xe75 connected to fiber gets me 700/1000
Be63 connected to 1GB cable gets me 1056/37
Xe75 1GB cable 930/31
Provided router to 2GB fiber 840/1100
Fiber speed test at modem 2100/2400
No matter what I do, I can't get over 100Mbps with fiber on the Be63
try restarting your modem (turn it off and wait 2 min before turning it on) then turn on your Deco. Also best to use a cat6a/cat7/cat8 cable to ensure you can get faster speeds than gigabit. I've seen cat5e go faster but only with super short cables.
The tp link website says for " speeds up to 10gbps"...how is this possible with the LAN's maxed at 2.5gbps?
It is combined speed not tge mac speed. That is why reviewers likeus wants to reallyeducate cobsumers..because most manufacturers would say it is max speed but it is really combined speed
Yeah so when they say that, they mean a summation of all the speeds of all the bands. That’s how the speed rating is determined. Hence it’s BE10000 where BE denotes WiFi 7 just like AXE denotes WiFi 6E and AX denotes WiFi 6, AC denotes WiFi 5 and so on….
So they add the theoretical maximum of all the bands (three in this case) and round the number to get to the speed rating. There’s no way anyones going to get 10Gbps transfer speeds on WiFi with this.
Better go BE85 if you want 10Gbps speeds
@@4givenoxygenbarez yup (up to 10Gbps over ethernet)
I have a small home. Will one device do?
Depends where it’s placed, you can start with 1
@@landpet in my living room where my tv is and all my gaming consoles.
Would this device still give faster speeds on a gig service coming from a xe75?
On the secondary devices or if you have a WiFi 7 device. The backhaul on this is better but XE75 is still fairly good so it’s not going to be a huge difference between the two at those speeds
@@landpet thanks I have all my decos wired backhaul now. I see the be63 has more 2.5 ports and a usb port.
Even though it shows more mhz per channel I wouldn’t notice a difference on a 6E device?
I wonder what speed would i get having a samsung ultra 24 and Having 2g fiber at home, im getting mines tomorrow and hoping for a good 1,500 upload, 1,000 download atleast hard wired
Should be pretty good speeds
Question on these. Do these particular Deco's have a fan installed? There's been reports on the Be85's having some loud fan stuff and wanted to know if there is any fans installed, or whether you noticed any fan noise during your testing.
I haven't noticed any fan noise. I keep the routers in open spaces so they don't heat up too much either way.
Does TP Link dictate what you can and cannot say in the review of these, and they then view the video before you are allowed to upload it? I heard they do that with their security cameras.
They get no say in my videos, I test the router and post the results. They don’t see it before the public. There is no approval process.
@@landpet Great to know.
Hey love your channel just after some advice I’m undecided between this and the xe75 pro. I have 1g internet and plan to use wireless back haul for the satellite and approx 30 devices on wifi no wifi 7 devices though
Thanks!
This is clearly better than the XE75 Pro but for those speeds you will not notice a huge difference. Deal wise the XE75 Pro is more ideal, I would even consider the XE75 if youre looking for a great deal or get this for slightly better performance
@@landpet yea here in Australia the xe75 pro is around $600 a great deal at the moment, whereas the be63 is $1499
Anyone know if there's a reason I shouldn't set up my guest network with a password and put all of my cameras on it?
I did that for a while then switched most of them to my main wifi but some of these mesh systems, I can't remember if this one supports it or not, but they actually have a separate IoT WiFi. I would use that instead. I personally don't use the IoT WiFi cause I switch routers all the time and not every router has that so it would be too much work to reset all my cameras otherwise if I had one mesh, I would definitely use the IoT WiFi for my smart home devices including cameras.
@@landpet Awesome info. Thanks so much!
I will go for
TP-Link's Deco BE65 wifi 7 3 band 3-pack Mesh System , Reliable and stable ! cheaper than BE 85
Unable to cover large area / dead corner , able to 【ADD-ON】 BE65 2-pack or 3-pack 👍👍👍👍
If I can't have completely separate SSID's for each band (2.4, 5, and 6) it is a no sale for me. I don't like combined frequencies in any setup.
Asus would be great for that
Can I just use 1 on its own? My home is only 1 floor and 1900sqft. The router sits pretty much in the center of the house.
Yes you can use 1 on its own
@@landpet thanks! Yesterday I purchased the new TP-Link BE9300 (Archer BE550) router. Was debating if I should do the Deco BE63. But as a standalone, looks like the Archer is better. Thoughts? I do want a mesh system and I know I can do mesh with the Archer as well. I just figured I can upgrade to a true mesh when I move into a bigger home with multiple floors.
What’s the difference between BE63 and BE65? EU version? 🤔
65 has a slightly faster speed rating, so I imagine it would be a tiny bit better in theory for wireless backhaul or wireless devices but in reality would hardly be noticeable based on specs but I haven’t tried that one yet so can’t say with absolute certainty
Can you install 4 deco routers to the system
Yes
Could you measure the circumference of the xe75 and the be63? I’m trying to see if the be will fit in a xe75 wall mount.
It is slightly larger than the XE75. BE63 is 34cm while the XE75 is a tad over 33cm for a frame of reference
*landpet* I remember you mentioning that your internet speeds are 5 Gbps (download/upload). What Steam download speeds do you achieve, in gigabits, when you download a game to your computer? And which CPU do you have in your gaming rig? I'm asking because I'm currently experiencing a CPU bottleneck when I transfer a games on my LAN from one computer to another. On my Ryzen 5 7600 rig that I transferring from, 7 out of 12 threads are at 100% and bottlenecks what should be a 2.5 gbps transfer to only 1.7 gbps. I've asked you these two questions because I'd like to know what's realistically achievable. Thank you in advance and Happy New Year.
Hi, thanks for the video. I'm planning to get either Deco BE63 or Deco XE75. My internet speed is only 100 Mbps and I only have Wifi 6E devices for now. I was wondering whether the wifi 7 alone would significantly increase internet speed. Can you make comparison between wifi 7 and wifi 6e router for internet speed below 1 Gbps?
I have xe75 Pro and I'll tell you what it is junk I have to reset it all the time it's just really really bad
It makes a lot of sense if you don't have wired backhaul and have 1 Gbps internet. That wireless backhaul moves! I don't really see the benefit of > 1Gbps internet to the home other than for bragging rights. I've never saturated the internet connection other than doing speed tests.
Sure. Gigabit is plenty fast as long as you don’t have too many things going on at once, especially gaming.
Are you still happy with this setup, particularly the wireless backhaul component?
@@hikeskool still going strong
@@vnitto good to hear!
I'm getting confused with a different models here I have a two floor apartment and I am considering the 1600 the 2200 or the 3300 and I'm very lost
Can you do a review of the spectrum Wi-Fi 6E router 🙏
I don’t have the spectrum WiFi 6E router
@@landpet ok, thank you for reading my comment.
@@OfficialJustRUclipsnp
Can anyone else duplicate this? Can anyone comment on wired 2.5Gb performance when using wireless backhaul? That’s primarily what I’m looking for here👌
You have to try any mobile with MediaTek Dimensity 9200 or 9300 chipsets because it’s has support for Wi-Fi 7 up to 6.5Gbps with (MLO)👍
If I get a device that has that, I’ll be sure to try it out
Haha how at that price that USB port is not USBC (USB4/TB4) seems like such a shortcut taken
I don’t think I’ve seen any mesh that supports this have anything but USB-A. Thanks for your feedback.
@@landpet yeah neither have I. And I don't even think I'd use it. But at these prices and being their top products feels like a A bit of a oversight when the whole world, even apple finally is moving on
@@imopn Totally agree and I noticed that too :( . But at least it you can use a 2.5 gb LAN port
I wish some of these would have the option to set up a secondary SSID for a different VLAN. I share my internet connection with my parents and we split the internet connection into two seperate local networks. None of these amazing mesh systems support anything which comes even close to that
This thing has VLAN settings but I haven’t played with it and I don’t think it would be as good as a managed switch either way.
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Hi, would you recommend, a 2pack of this system or the ASUS ET12 (which is more expensive)..? My speed internet is 1 GB, I’m planning to set it wire backhaul, I don’t own any WiFi 7 devices and not planning on buying one anytime soon. Or what mesh system would you recommend…? something not too expensive and not too cheap. Thanks
This is amazing for that. You can even get the Deco XE75 and it should be fine for that.
@@landpetthank you very much
@@santossaellite np
Thanks for the info. Can BE63 use wifi 7 as the dedicated wireless backhaul ? is BE63's dedicated wireless backhaul performing better than XE75 Pro in distance between the main router and satellites ?
Yes and yes. This has very good backhaul speeds, much better than any WiFi 6E system. It’s more noticeable if you have internet speeds faster than gigabit
Can the BE63’s WiFi 6e use 6ghz or is it limited to 2.4ghz only?
WiFi 6E devices can connect to the 6GHz band on this assuming it’s not being used as a dedicated backhaul.
2.4GHz is typically for smart home devices or if you get fairly far away from this with normal WiFi devices like a modern smartphone