wow is this cat kool as a cucumber or wat crazy analytics going on here with Ryan he is so humble & brillantly honest with himself with his acessesment of Racecar game
Great Vid Ryan always interested in ur analysis of technical side of ur Hotrod crazy how ur observations r so well thoughtout and ur always seem to b looking at ur buggy and asking the age ole ? r the changes btr & why and how can u additionally fine tunw these changes to optimize ur cars performance !!!! both u and Cheif seem to b along with Nick truly the best! Thank you for sharing ur thoughts and ideas aboutu buggy cause i feel if ur not doing this others will continually b faster then u best wishes Champ and HAPPPY NEWYEAR U and ur Family Sir
I have never met anyone as knowledgeable as you and not afraid to talk about it in all the years I’ve been in the racing scene. That goes to show what a great person you are.
Alot of I nteresting info to take in …. You are packed with knowledge and sure not afraid to take something apart that works , and works well to Keep evolving to try and stay on top 💪🏻
Happy holiday from Romania 🇷🇴. Much appreciated video. Best wishes for your family in the future this year. From Kansas Missouri border fort Scott. Much love 🎉
Dude your gonna show the world what cold side boost control is all about. I will be watching for sure. I was surprised when you went with the ‘Procharger set up and I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge with us all. Procharger is badass and definitely sounds the best but I’ve seen guys run the same Turbos for years with zero issues. I’d love to see what you can do with twin FIS 98’s and a coldgate lol
And.... that would make the turbos turn faster and that makes more boost? What would be wrong with that? Do like a 100 shot get them turbos turning and that would make a difference on the big end.
@@davidlane9525they can only spin so many rpm and he has no problem getting to that rpm. The “100” shot could be accomplished by raising launch boost a pound or two or raise launch rpm. Plus a lot of races don’t allow dual power adder
Ryan pro charger is awesome. U have smoked big name people. You do what u think is possible. I would die to work with u and learn from you . U are my inspiration. Thank you
I'm building a BBC and the more I search and hear pro's talk like yourself I'm really leaning towards the Pro Charger than twins ...thanks for all the good knowledge...huge fan and hope to see you at a backside race in Jackson TN....this coming season
You are my favorite racer. And I'm old enough to say this. Im 65 and just able to retire. I'm doing and old school big block 454 and I'm going to fallow your led on the procharger or screw blower.
Oh boy, cannot wait to see how testing goes. I'm sure it's gonna be fast! I've thought about starting to try to leave with lots of boost, and ramp it really fast.... then hopefully just retarding a ton of timing doesn't mess with the boost. In theory, should behave more like a blower car.
The problem with the turbos is that pulling timing can speed up the turbos and increase boost throwing everything off. You also have the delay that Ryan talked about. Have you considered E gates on the cold side? This way you keep the turbos spinning and just bleed off the excess boost. Steve Morris’ did some good videos on how he uses both E gates on the cold side and conventional wastegates. His wagon picked up dramatically and was a lot more controllable.
@@danmyers9372 Not a fan of the gates on the intake pipe, but it seems to be working. Right now Ieave on 6psi and ramp to 32 at 2.5-3 seconds with hardly any launch retard. If I leave at 15-20psi and a 1 second ramp or maybe even a .5 second ramp the boost is already there, so the retarded timing should not make it spool faster (in theory). Blower cars, not supercharged cars leave with a crap ton of boost.
I feel like in the slick tire no prep world there's not but one or two guys that have figured out how to run the smart gates Ryan and when more of them figure it out their times and consistency is going to go up!
DUDE RYAN, YOU AND TURBOS ARE LEGENDARY, KINDA LIKE BIG CHIEF AND TURBOS. They may be harder to tune and being less controllable for goal results with quieter operation, but turbos have MANY benefits that a procharger is unable to do. This is why in WWII the U.S. combined dual benefits from both systems of boost to fight the Germans in their aircraft. Supercharger for the initial push then the turbocharger kicks in for the high altitudes, and with more additional boost options for dogfighting purposes. It's not what is better, it's what is better for the operation or race conditions. Just my observation and opinion. Ryan, YOU are legendary on turbo tuning for victory. You are one of the best, in my opinion. Keep up the good work 👍. Have a Happy New Year 🎉 🎂 🎉. I wish Meg and the family the best in life. An awesome racing family with a cool Dad at the helm. Great video 📸. Have a good day today 😎 🌞.Thanks.
I find it really interesting that you’re going to experiment with turbos. Steve Morris did some interesting stuff with electric blow off valves. But he was trying to solve a surge problem on the 2 step. Maybe it doesn’t apply at all, but that is what I was thinking of when I watched this. Of the channels I watch, I find yours very interesting. I’m learning a lot more than I will ever apply. I’m just working on an old truck I want to do drag and drive with. Probably going to do a 5.3 iron block LS a couple small turbos and a 4L80. It will be more of a driver than a race car(truck) for sure, but it should be fun.
Thanks Ryan for making us feel part of your crew discussing what to do for the 2025 season, I love all the racing videos you and Megan put out but I think this is the best one yet as a heads up racer / crew in previous decades - do you keep a excel spreadsheet of 60ft 60-330 and 330-660s or is it all that info in your head ?
I switched to blower because of watching your succeed. Wish I got to meet u at dig or die but u left before I could get over there. I had the little blue Chevette. Hopefully u stick with blower because the sound alone is worth it. Love the vids
Great info, looking forward to the results. I recommend the turbosmart strait gate for the cold side control. You can use the mac valves and works great with the holley
I think tin soldiers now have a short body but long travel front strut that they got developed for billy's car . and love watching your vids wecare justvstarting no prep racing properly in austraila n we trying to go fast with our build
I played with coldgate stuff very similar to how you did. It works well to bleed off alot of power early and bring it back in quicker compared to wastegates.
Been watching you for years!! I remember when you first came on the scene everyone was asking who the hell is the guy with the junky ol firebird.... i spread your name to those who didnt know lmao!! Always been 1 of my favorites!! Ryan is jus a nice guy!! An a bad mofo on the track in the street an on the keyboard!!!
I had a feeling you were going to go back to turbo. I almost commented this 2 videos ago. Damnit i could have looked like a freaking genius. Meghan he's doing the "Um" thing again. Better tell him cut that out 😂
You’re talking about turbo tech, have you seen the latest Steve Morris video? He seen his compressor housings to line to line to coat the inside to help seal better. Curious if it does better.
Do you run a weather station at your trailer? My boat racing buddies used to. I'm not sure about now. And can you vent the front fenders to release the underside lift pressure? And Hello From Texas!
Did you apologize to your wife for telling her that Charlie Brown and the nova didn’t have a chance at the Christmas tree race when she picked them 1 and 2 ?
@@StreetRacingChannelman I know I would have loved to see the final between Charlie brown and SRC Nova....two top mph car's all day... Billy, if you're working on camaro from early 2025, have you and Tommy decided that Tommy's taking the Nova and imho I think Tommy will, if there's no issues during the run Tommy will put the Nova in the 3s because I hear you talking after every lick you didn't get after it because you were half track ahead, I also heard you telling everyone from different races held that " TOMMY'S THE BETTER DRIVER OUT OF BOTH OF US " I really want to see Tommy believe in his tuning and watching him from inside during the race he's pretty calm, doesn't play with his steering and most importantly knows there's loads of races coming so he tends to overthink himself but when he just has that F it moment and wins that is what I am waiting for, if I could have 1 race back it's frankinstien at the pad and only difference is put frankinstien in the left because he was using 2 lanes and just beat Tommy...Tommy gave frankinstien the lane he needed because Tommy doesn't think like most, he wants good races and everyone safe after, frankinstien needed the right lanes....
This is a great video. Ive only ran nitrous and turbo. But everything you said about the turbo commo struggles are on point. I self tune and work on everything myself also. Ive been curious about intake side boost control and have some stuff i want to try. Curious what kind of slip did you have on converters on both combos. I know you said you have some different stuff for the procharger, just curious.
It's a good idea to learn the latest turbo technology. The tuning career will last far longer than the racing side, and people want the one who has the real world experience.
super kudos to you Ryan , keeping it all in house! I have a problem being a stubborn F'er hearing all these guys talking about calling their tuner all the time turns me off. your privateer attitude make me proud to be a fan!
I like the blowers better. Turbos make lots of power but they’re much less inconsistent. If you have to pedal a turbo car it takes time to start making all the power again. I’ve seen you do really well with turbos and I hope you can do even better this time. I’m a fan of any type of blower but I’m going to ride with you guys no matter what power adder you’re using. Anyone who watches any of your videos with the amount of info you freely share and isn’t a fan is an idiot. Here’s to hoping 2025 is going to be your best year yet 💯🤞🏻🍀🙏🏻
would you be down for a little low buck challenge ? duct tape drag style/Test. vortec 4200 maketplace find 4th gen camaro roller would love to see what you could do
This is why you're one of the best players in the game, you put in the work. You're always trying something, you're never stagnant with what you have. So many people throw something together figure out how to get it to go down a few times and think that's good enough, you however figure out how to get everything to run as efficiently as possible, and then continue to improve other parts of the car.
Try a screw combo. You've dominated with every other combo. LS - single turbo, LS -Twin, Big Block Single, Big Block Twins, Now Big Block Procharger (2 diff sizes for diff surfaces), you've done it on radials and slicks of small to Bigg on both.... no reason to think you won't do the same with whatever you try next...
Sorry to drag it out further, but if you an pull the g’s that hard on the launch, with turbo, and then pull the g’s down track with the blower, an you tune the chassis to do both?? I’m not sure that’s possible, you’re tuning rear gear, transmission gears and weight transfer (not to mention static weight distribution and tire pressure)!!!!!
I think it will be faster with the turbos especially if you put a set of bigger turbos like two 98mm you will be flying and your scramble button will beat King Kong! In fact it might get to be to fast! The question is can you control it and get it to do what you want when you want it!
I always wondered why the turbo guys didn't spray them so they 60-foot it harder I seen a couple mustang guys doing once or twice cars picked up into 60 ft one guy come from prochargers and he said that's the only way he get his car to run on turbos 😁 and you know who to call for that
Can you explain what you mean by starting line ratio? Compared to say, I'm assuming gear ratio in the rear end and as to down track... If I'm making any sense!
Turbo tech has took off I run Fis forced inductions 88/94s I’ve wanted to expierament with the e gate but I’m also on Holley and a lot of the data out there is thru fuel tech. Also I have a big inch small block that parts are hard to come by. I think a big block is the way to go. I think you can make yours work and go faster you do so much with less that it blows my mind.
Id like see someone on the street or no prep try to control the boost like a prochared car by just controlling it all on the cold side just asking questions cause I'm curious if anyone has tried it
Are you leaving the procharger cam in it? Not sure if you mentioned if you turbo cam swapped it. IMO (I'm not a racer or true gear head) I would think that the procharger = more wins just due to it's simplicity.
23;25 in Ryan and I remember you having the very same conversation when you decided to switch to prochager because others with the prochager were having better 60FT and 330ft and most times you would be catching by 330 and end up driving around but the further into the racing the prochager just seemed to have better 60FT and 330ft and as you said if you aren't near there rear-end then you can't catch them...I REMEMBER YOU EVEN WITHOUT ALL PROCHAGER PARTS YOU EITHER TESTED OR ENTERED A RACE AND WON STRAIGHT AWAY WITH THE SETUP AND I ALSO REMEMBER ASKING THE BIG MONEY NPK GUYS WHICH GEAR'S TO BURNOUT AND EVEN LEAVING..MURDER NOVA ACTUALLY TOLD YOU WHAT HE'S DOING REGARDING HIS BURNOUT AND WHAT GEAR AND DEPENDING UPON THE BLOWER SETUP GEAR WISE HE WAS STAGING AND LEAVING EITHER TREE LIGHTS OR TORCH 🔦.... I AM LIKING THE NPK GUYS TRYING SMALL TIRE AND I THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF CHANGE IN RULES FOR THE SMALL TIRE 28S WERE MAYBE THE RACERS THROUGHOUT THE SEASON WENT AND COMPETED IN 3 - 5 SMALL TIRE RACES AND NOT POP IN FOR THE BIGGER POTS WHICH IS NOTHING TO NPK GUYS BUT THE GUYS I SEE REGULARLY, AT MOST EVENTS THAT 20 GRAND PAYOUT FOR A WIN IS PROBABLY WHAT ALLOWS THEM UPGRADE OR PLAN FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF RACES ,THERE'S A MUSTANG WITH PURPLE FRONT LIGHTS, TURBO AND IT'S FAST AF FOR A LONG MINUTE NOW .... HAVING THE NPK DRIVERS THERE PROMOTES THE RACE BUT I THINK IF THEY ONLY RACING FOR THE BIGGER PAYOUT, NAH ,3 - 5 RACES ON SMALL TIRE RACES HELD THROUGHOUT THE SEASON AND YOUR GOOD... I'D LOVE TO KNOW PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON THE BIG MONEY NPK RACERS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, 3 -5 RACES DONE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SEASON... SORRY FOR THE NOVEL RYAN AND MEGHAN...I LOVE THESE TECH TALKS!! RYAN THINKING OUTLOUD...
Run the turbos off the charge pipe with a 60mm e Gate in between each charge pipe just like mark mickie runs his car and I’ll bet you’ll have all the control at the 60ft on out you ll need
I believe that blower cars have a lot of advantages. Tunability for each track surfaces in may eyes is the biggest advantage, a lot of people would probably disagree with that statement. But honestly you can build boost instantly on the line also blower cars sound freaking amazing and they’re loud. Another advantage is if you have to pedal the car, say half track, the car instantly comes back power wise where you left off there’s no delay or having to wait on the progressive controller to re-ramp the nitrous system or the having to wait for the turbo’s or turbo to re-ramp the boost per the boost table. I mean a lot of people love other combos but to each is own. Build what makes you happy and what you think will make your car competitive. If your trying to drag race to become rich your dead wrong. You might make some damn good money racing but history typically repeats its self when it comes to this hobby/sport. Because a lot of racers take their winnings and reinvest it into their car to make it faster and better. Love the channel and what you do keep up the hard work.
My question is when you were running turbo's did you go through more turbos/engine Carnage. Seems like you are going through prochargers alot. engine isn't happy I believe it's number eight cylinder. You seem more dominant when you were running turbos versus ProCharger seems like you have a lot of headaches with procharger.
Ok, so may be o er simplifying but regulate turbo shaft speed with e gate on waste gate side, and use gate blowoff to control boost. Same could be accomplished with procharger, but blowing off boost side is wasted by parasitic driven blower
put this new turbo combo on the dyno and make a decision to go find a place to test. then decide where this new combo will have the best chance to win. it seems that perhaps all the combo's don't necessarily work at any track.
there is no one else that is going to give that deep of a dive into their program. Thanks for insight Ryan. I found it intriguing.
wow is this cat kool as a cucumber or wat crazy analytics going on here with Ryan he is so humble & brillantly honest with himself with his acessesment of Racecar game
I enjoy watching u load up those high dollar cars with that home built BBC
Keep ur up Ryan
Great Vid Ryan always interested in ur analysis of technical side of ur Hotrod crazy how ur observations r so well thoughtout and ur always seem to b looking at ur buggy and asking the age ole ? r the changes btr & why and how can u additionally fine tunw these changes to optimize ur cars performance !!!! both u and Cheif seem to b along with Nick truly the best! Thank you for sharing ur thoughts and ideas aboutu buggy cause i feel if ur not doing this others will continually b faster then u best wishes Champ and HAPPPY NEWYEAR U and ur Family Sir
Your a smart dude and I enjoy watching and learning from you hope the turbos do what you want
I have never met anyone as knowledgeable as you and not afraid to talk about it in all the years I’ve been in the racing scene. That goes to show what a great person you are.
Alot of I nteresting info to take in …. You are packed with knowledge and sure not afraid to take something apart that works , and works well to Keep evolving to try and stay on top 💪🏻
Happy holiday from Romania 🇷🇴. Much appreciated video. Best wishes for your family in the future this year. From Kansas Missouri border fort Scott. Much love 🎉
Dude your gonna show the world what cold side boost control is all about. I will be watching for sure. I was surprised when you went with the ‘Procharger set up and I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge with us all. Procharger is badass and definitely sounds the best but I’ve seen guys run the same Turbos for years with zero issues. I’d love to see what you can do with twin FIS 98’s and a coldgate lol
Up next: “we’re putting the firebird on nitrous!”
🤫🤫🤫😂
And.... that would make the turbos turn faster and that makes more boost? What would be wrong with that? Do like a 100 shot get them turbos turning and that would make a difference on the big end.
@@davidlane9525they can only spin so many rpm and he has no problem getting to that rpm. The “100” shot could be accomplished by raising launch boost a pound or two or raise launch rpm. Plus a lot of races don’t allow dual power adder
@@jkfonyihe doesn’t do class racing. It had nitrous on it with the pro charger. Run what you brung
Ryan pro charger is awesome.
U have smoked big name people. You do what u think is possible. I would die to work with u and learn from you . U are my inspiration. Thank you
I'm building a BBC and the more I search and hear pro's talk like yourself I'm really leaning towards the Pro Charger than twins ...thanks for all the good knowledge...huge fan and hope to see you at a backside race in Jackson TN....this coming season
Just a great video. It's nice to hear your thoughts on both of these. Thanks for providing us with a little education. Stay safe
You are my favorite racer. And I'm old enough to say this. Im 65 and just able to retire. I'm doing and old school big block 454 and I'm going to fallow your led on the procharger or screw blower.
Oh boy, cannot wait to see how testing goes. I'm sure it's gonna be fast! I've thought about starting to try to leave with lots of boost, and ramp it really fast.... then hopefully just retarding a ton of timing doesn't mess with the boost. In theory, should behave more like a blower car.
The problem with the turbos is that pulling timing can speed up the turbos and increase boost throwing everything off. You also have the delay that Ryan talked about. Have you considered E gates on the cold side? This way you keep the turbos spinning and just bleed off the excess boost. Steve Morris’ did some good videos on how he uses both E gates on the cold side and conventional wastegates. His wagon picked up dramatically and was a lot more controllable.
@@danmyers9372 Not a fan of the gates on the intake pipe, but it seems to be working. Right now Ieave on 6psi and ramp to 32 at 2.5-3 seconds with hardly any launch retard. If I leave at 15-20psi and a 1 second ramp or maybe even a .5 second ramp the boost is already there, so the retarded timing should not make it spool faster (in theory). Blower cars, not supercharged cars leave with a crap ton of boost.
Have you ever thought about twins 👯 putting a turbo over each front tire like beater bomb
I feel like in the slick tire no prep world there's not but one or two guys that have figured out how to run the smart gates Ryan and when more of them figure it out their times and consistency is going to go up!
It was interesting to hear your thoughts about prochargers vs. turbos, and your R&D plans for the off-season.
DUDE RYAN, YOU AND TURBOS ARE LEGENDARY, KINDA LIKE BIG CHIEF AND TURBOS. They may be harder to tune and being less controllable for goal results with quieter operation, but turbos have MANY benefits that a procharger is unable to do. This is why in WWII the U.S. combined dual benefits from both systems of boost to fight the Germans in their aircraft. Supercharger for the initial push then the turbocharger kicks in for the high altitudes, and with more additional boost options for dogfighting purposes. It's not what is better, it's what is better for the operation or race conditions. Just my observation and opinion. Ryan, YOU are legendary on turbo tuning for victory. You are one of the best, in my opinion. Keep up the good work 👍. Have a Happy New Year 🎉 🎂 🎉. I wish Meg and the family the best in life. An awesome racing family with a cool Dad at the helm. Great video 📸. Have a good day today 😎 🌞.Thanks.
@TT64NOVASS this is funny for the lol. 🤣.
I find it really interesting that you’re going to experiment with turbos. Steve Morris did some interesting stuff with electric blow off valves. But he was trying to solve a surge problem on the 2 step. Maybe it doesn’t apply at all, but that is what I was thinking of when I watched this.
Of the channels I watch, I find yours very interesting. I’m learning a lot more than I will ever apply. I’m just working on an old truck I want to do drag and drive with. Probably going to do a 5.3 iron block LS a couple small turbos and a 4L80. It will be more of a driver than a race car(truck) for sure, but it should be fun.
Thanks Ryan for making us feel part of your crew discussing what to do for the 2025 season, I love all the racing videos you and Megan put out but I think this is the best one yet as a heads up racer / crew in previous decades - do you keep a excel spreadsheet of 60ft 60-330 and 330-660s or is it all that info in your head ?
I switched to blower because of watching your succeed. Wish I got to meet u at dig or die but u left before I could get over there. I had the little blue Chevette. Hopefully u stick with blower because the sound alone is worth it. Love the vids
Great info, looking forward to the results. I recommend the turbosmart strait gate for the cold side control. You can use the mac valves and works great with the holley
would really love to see if you have suspension graphs in turbo vs procharger, you pull some real memorable passes with the wheels in the air
Would have been awesome to see you at the Christmas tree race
I think tin soldiers now have a short body but long travel front strut that they got developed for billy's car . and love watching your vids wecare justvstarting no prep racing properly in austraila n we trying to go fast with our build
Really enjoyed the video. Lots of good insights. Thanks
The king ! It will be good to see ya back turbo
merry christmas from 🇨🇦 . keep up the great work gang
I played with coldgate stuff very similar to how you did. It works well to bleed off alot of power early and bring it back in quicker compared to wastegates.
YES!welcome back to the Lords power adder...😊
Interesting... Thanks,much appreciated.
Merry Christmas Megan and Ryan, I hope you guys have a great New Year. Great tech talk Ryan. Hope you figure it out!
Dude I have not watched any of this but I'm going to watch this
You know what the fastest combo is so I say go with your gut and can't wait to watch you win all next season happy new year Ryan and Meghan
You’re super knowledgeable on this stuff I’d like to know what got you into racing what keeps you in it. How you was able to afford to get started etc
Been using a nematic gate on the cold side all of 2024 with Holley controlling it. Don’t have shaft speed data but definitely saw a benefit.
Been watching you for years!! I remember when you first came on the scene everyone was asking who the hell is the guy with the junky ol firebird.... i spread your name to those who didnt know lmao!! Always been 1 of my favorites!! Ryan is jus a nice guy!! An a bad mofo on the track in the street an on the keyboard!!!
I had a feeling you were going to go back to turbo. I almost commented this 2 videos ago. Damnit i could have looked like a freaking genius. Meghan he's doing the "Um" thing again. Better tell him cut that out 😂
I really miss your twin setup but damn you been successful with that procharger!
Lots of good stuff here in this video
Ok I just watched this. I understand where you're going with the turbos. But yea chassis, chassis and pro charger. You are a very smart fellow.
You’re talking about turbo tech, have you seen the latest Steve Morris video? He seen his compressor housings to line to line to coat the inside to help seal better. Curious if it does better.
I watched a Steve Morris video on boost control and surge. It was interesting.
Happy new year to you and the family and crew!!!🎉🎉
To me this is the best type and style of video. Thank you team kc maxxx. Mechanical OCD is a thing lol.
Do you run a weather station at your trailer? My boat racing buddies used to. I'm not sure about now. And can you vent the front fenders to release the underside lift pressure? And Hello From Texas!
Did you apologize to your wife for telling her that Charlie Brown and the nova didn’t have a chance at the Christmas tree race when she picked them 1 and 2 ?
😮
I just remembered that she did say that...
@@StreetRacingChannelman I know I would have loved to see the final between Charlie brown and SRC Nova....two top mph car's all day...
Billy, if you're working on camaro from early 2025, have you and Tommy decided that Tommy's taking the Nova and imho I think Tommy will, if there's no issues during the run Tommy will put the Nova in the 3s because I hear you talking after every lick you didn't get after it because you were half track ahead, I also heard you telling everyone from different races held that " TOMMY'S THE BETTER DRIVER OUT OF BOTH OF US " I really want to see Tommy believe in his tuning and watching him from inside during the race he's pretty calm, doesn't play with his steering and most importantly knows there's loads of races coming so he tends to overthink himself but when he just has that F it moment and wins that is what I am waiting for, if I could have 1 race back it's frankinstien at the pad and only difference is put frankinstien in the left because he was using 2 lanes and just beat Tommy...Tommy gave frankinstien the lane he needed because Tommy doesn't think like most, he wants good races and everyone safe after, frankinstien needed the right lanes....
@@StreetRacingChannel I did make the call 🤷🏼♀️ lucky charm over here 🍀
@@bosqueboys 😂😂😂
Lots of good info. Your team is impressive. How many blower failures have you had this year, and why?
So much info in one video
Awesome video Ryan! I really enjoy the tech side of things.
This is a great video. Ive only ran nitrous and turbo. But everything you said about the turbo commo struggles are on point. I self tune and work on everything myself also. Ive been curious about intake side boost control and have some stuff i want to try. Curious what kind of slip did you have on converters on both combos. I know you said you have some different stuff for the procharger, just curious.
It's a good idea to learn the latest turbo technology. The tuning career will last far longer than the racing side, and people want the one who has the real world experience.
Isnt there better turbos to try that would give an even better comparison?
Out of the last 4yrs. Which out of the 2 power adders had more wins? Turbos or Pro Charger??? I still think turbos with the E gate is the future
Super exited to see you win the cleetus race! Hoping its gonna bring the attention your program deserves!
Thanks for the video
Have you ever considered a pre turbo/pro charger throttle body.
I think it would help with response/linear flow into the intake.
super kudos to you Ryan , keeping it all in house! I have a problem being a stubborn F'er hearing all these guys talking about calling their tuner all the time turns me off. your privateer attitude make me proud to be a fan!
Whatever happened with that CVT centrifugal set up Procharger worked on years back? Did that ever go anywhere?
I like the blowers better. Turbos make lots of power but they’re much less inconsistent. If you have to pedal a turbo car it takes time to start making all the power again. I’ve seen you do really well with turbos and I hope you can do even better this time. I’m a fan of any type of blower but I’m going to ride with you guys no matter what power adder you’re using. Anyone who watches any of your videos with the amount of info you freely share and isn’t a fan is an idiot. Here’s to hoping 2025 is going to be your best year yet 💯🤞🏻🍀🙏🏻
There is also delay on turbos
@@Turbomustang790 They make more power but they can't *quite* hit like a nitrous or blower car.
Have you ever messed with big block power with twins?
would you be down for a little low buck challenge ? duct tape drag style/Test.
vortec 4200 maketplace find
4th gen camaro roller
would love to see what you could do
I feel like with modern turbos and that technology you could go as fast if not faster then ever if you spend a bit of time figuring it out
I think blower is the way to go. And you are figuring it out.
The only thing with big pro chargers sometimes it takes 500hp to make 500more hp
At least with turbos you can always have extra power on standby ,hints the scramble button.
Plunkett got the Wallet for it 😅
This is why you're one of the best players in the game, you put in the work. You're always trying something, you're never stagnant with what you have. So many people throw something together figure out how to get it to go down a few times and think that's good enough, you however figure out how to get everything to run as efficiently as possible, and then continue to improve other parts of the car.
Stay with the blower, you have been winning more with it
Try a screw combo.
You've dominated with every other combo.
LS - single turbo, LS -Twin, Big Block Single, Big Block Twins, Now Big Block Procharger (2 diff sizes for diff surfaces), you've done it on radials and slicks of small to Bigg on both.... no reason to think you won't do the same with whatever you try next...
Tell us what you spent, this year, repairing the Prochargers. That would have gone in the bank, running turbos.
🤫 you’re spitting too many facts there sir 🤐
I’m thinking with the new e gates new turbo technology traction control tech and maybe a sniff of nitrous Ryan will unlock another winning combo
Sorry to drag it out further, but if you an pull the g’s that hard on the launch, with turbo, and then pull the g’s down track with the blower, an you tune the chassis to do both?? I’m not sure that’s possible, you’re tuning rear gear, transmission gears and weight transfer (not to mention static weight distribution and tire pressure)!!!!!
I think it will be faster with the turbos especially if you put a set of bigger turbos like two 98mm you will be flying and your scramble button will beat King Kong! In fact it might get to be to fast! The question is can you control it and get it to do what you want when you want it!
I always wondered why the turbo guys didn't spray them so they 60-foot it harder I seen a couple mustang guys doing once or twice cars picked up into 60 ft one guy come from prochargers and he said that's the only way he get his car to run on turbos 😁 and you know who to call for that
Can you explain what you mean by starting line ratio? Compared to say, I'm assuming gear ratio in the rear end and as to down track... If I'm making any sense!
Gearing in the trans 1st or 2nd depending on which Gear he starts in.
Blowers for 1/8 mile Turbo’s for 1/4 mile
some combo of the 2
that`s a fact
So why do top fuel and funny car run blowers?
@@RobertHenderson-pr6ldconsistency and repeatability
@@RobertHenderson-pr6ld Running Nitromethane for fuel they produce around 11,000 horsepower that’s instant power not buildup power like a turbo.
Respect.
Pro charger.
should come up with an idea like making their pro.Chargers reliable
Turbo tech has took off I run Fis forced inductions 88/94s I’ve wanted to expierament with the e gate but I’m also on Holley and a lot of the data out there is thru fuel tech. Also I have a big inch small block that parts are hard to come by. I think a big block is the way to go. I think you can make yours work and go faster you do so much with less that it blows my mind.
Id like see someone on the street or no prep try to control the boost like a prochared car by just controlling it all on the cold side just asking questions cause I'm curious if anyone has tried it
Not to call you out ryan, but didnt megan say Charlie Brown and src 1-2 and you said nah? Lol
And that’s facts! 😂😂😂❤️
Why can't you have both ? Or is that possible ???
❤💕🏁💪🏼you will make it work you allways do bud ok later
Are you leaving the procharger cam in it? Not sure if you mentioned if you turbo cam swapped it. IMO (I'm not a racer or true gear head) I would think that the procharger = more wins just due to it's simplicity.
Finished watching. Yes you did swap the cam
Hope yall had a good Christmas. Happy new year's
23;25 in Ryan and I remember you having the very same conversation when you decided to switch to prochager because others with the prochager were having better 60FT and 330ft and most times you would be catching by 330 and end up driving around but the further into the racing the prochager just seemed to have better 60FT and 330ft and as you said if you aren't near there rear-end then you can't catch them...I REMEMBER YOU EVEN WITHOUT ALL PROCHAGER PARTS YOU EITHER TESTED OR ENTERED A RACE AND WON STRAIGHT AWAY WITH THE SETUP AND I ALSO REMEMBER ASKING THE BIG MONEY NPK GUYS WHICH GEAR'S TO BURNOUT AND EVEN LEAVING..MURDER NOVA ACTUALLY TOLD YOU WHAT HE'S DOING REGARDING HIS BURNOUT AND WHAT GEAR AND DEPENDING UPON THE BLOWER SETUP GEAR WISE HE WAS STAGING AND LEAVING EITHER TREE LIGHTS OR TORCH 🔦....
I AM LIKING THE NPK GUYS TRYING SMALL TIRE AND I THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF CHANGE IN RULES FOR THE SMALL TIRE 28S WERE MAYBE THE RACERS THROUGHOUT THE SEASON WENT AND COMPETED IN 3 - 5 SMALL TIRE RACES AND NOT POP IN FOR THE BIGGER POTS WHICH IS NOTHING TO NPK GUYS BUT THE GUYS I SEE REGULARLY, AT MOST EVENTS THAT 20 GRAND PAYOUT FOR A WIN IS PROBABLY WHAT ALLOWS THEM UPGRADE OR PLAN FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF RACES ,THERE'S A MUSTANG WITH PURPLE FRONT LIGHTS, TURBO AND IT'S FAST AF FOR A LONG MINUTE NOW ....
HAVING THE NPK DRIVERS THERE PROMOTES THE RACE BUT I THINK IF THEY ONLY RACING FOR THE BIGGER PAYOUT, NAH ,3 - 5 RACES ON SMALL TIRE RACES HELD THROUGHOUT THE SEASON AND YOUR GOOD...
I'D LOVE TO KNOW PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON THE BIG MONEY NPK RACERS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, 3 -5 RACES DONE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SEASON...
SORRY FOR THE NOVEL RYAN AND MEGHAN...I LOVE THESE TECH TALKS!! RYAN THINKING OUTLOUD...
Why bump if your worried about the inconsistency you should be able to put in the brake and build boost without bumping
class is in session 😁
I didnt realize how much faster the procharger was than turbos
TURBOS AND NITROUS, fast spool?
I keep feeling like this is a bad April fools joke.. but I know it doesn't matter your gonna be fast no matter what you go with....
Run the turbos off the charge pipe with a 60mm e Gate in between each charge pipe just like mark mickie runs his car and I’ll bet you’ll have all the control at the 60ft on out you ll need
I believe that blower cars have a lot of advantages. Tunability for each track surfaces in may eyes is the biggest advantage, a lot of people would probably disagree with that statement. But honestly you can build boost instantly on the line also blower cars sound freaking amazing and they’re loud. Another advantage is if you have to pedal the car, say half track, the car instantly comes back power wise where you left off there’s no delay or having to wait on the progressive controller to re-ramp the nitrous system or the having to wait for the turbo’s or turbo to re-ramp the boost per the boost table. I mean a lot of people love other combos but to each is own. Build what makes you happy and what you think will make your car competitive. If your trying to drag race to become rich your dead wrong. You might make some damn good money racing but history typically repeats its self when it comes to this hobby/sport. Because a lot of racers take their winnings and reinvest it into their car to make it faster and better. Love the channel and what you do keep up the hard work.
My question is when you were running turbo's did you go through more turbos/engine Carnage. Seems like you are going through prochargers alot. engine isn't happy I believe it's number eight cylinder. You seem more dominant when you were running turbos versus ProCharger seems like you have a lot of headaches with procharger.
Honestly have always wondered why nobody runs procharger AND a big turbo or two
Ok, so may be o er simplifying but regulate turbo shaft speed with e gate on waste gate side, and use gate blowoff to control boost. Same could be accomplished with procharger, but blowing off boost side is wasted by parasitic driven blower
put this new turbo combo on the dyno and make a decision to go find a place to test. then decide where this new combo will have the best chance to win. it seems that perhaps all the combo's don't necessarily work at any track.
Turbos will always make more power! Little to no parasite losses. His setup is probably using 200+ horse to drive the blower.
You are one of the most intelligent racers out there, no matter what you decide on you’re gonna be fast
Let's Gooooooo!