Imo "85-"94(the Senna era) is the golden age/pinnacle of modern F1. Also v10-3.5L of the early 2000's(Schumacher era) is amazing as well...19,000 rpms is mind boggling.
Wat makes Senna the best bcoz he won the world title in manual turbo v6, manual NA v8 and auto paddle shift NA v10 in a non active suspension and no traction control... .... Mansell, Schumacher and Prost's 4th title are car aid
honestly, they should bring this back as a championship, with authentic cars, liveries correct, preferably year-correct, with a seperate, unofficial/official championship, 'F1 Classic', with proper drivers who put themselves available, perhaps even current F1 drivers, with the exception of rookies, minimal 5 years of relevant formula racing experience, and having had a superlicense or f1 entry in the past. let the cars run on X % of its original power if that might be a concern of safety. tires and brakes must be main important, and make it a sprint race lenght max, and perhaps including a mandatory pitstop.
It is great to see these cars. We are more interested in the cars, names and models and years raced. Who is driving them now is not really that important.
Love watching this so much more than current F1. Enjoy Monaco. Reminds me of walking up the hill from Tabac with a coffee and Croque Monsieur. The two dogs right alongside hoping for tasty morsels.
Thank you RENAULT SPORT for creating and making the first F1 Turbo engine (V6 Bi-Turbo, 1.5L only, but in the end of its live until 1400hp in the qualifications! O_o) reliable in the end of the 1970's, and for its performance which imposed it on all F1 manufacturers! A blessed time in F1 that will never be seen again.
As someone who actually attended F1 races in the 80’s the Turbos on street courses struggled. I was at USGP Long Beach when Lauda who started 21 and his teammate Watson 22nd came thru to finish 1st Watson and 2nd. Both were running Cosworth’s. Of course you had multiple tire manufacturers and the McLaren’s Goodyear’s were the tire to have. Throw in the races where 2/3’s of the grid blew up during the race. Most of the passing were back markers because of the 24-28 car starting grids
This is so amazing these guys are racing this hard in priceless pieces of history, hats off! Way more interesting than the parade we are treated to recently! In all honesty the F1 needs cars around this size if they want to keep Monaco on the calendar. The teams should have a 2 million euro budget to spend on a small one off car around an F3ish monocoque and off the shelf V8 or V12 engine to race 100 laps of Monaco each year (semi enduro to really put strategy to the test), may the best constructor win!
The issue with these older cars is that the drivers feet are typically infront of the front axle so, in any frontal accident, the driver is quite likely to suffer serious injury. This was changed in the 90' IIRC.
Am I right that those ground effect cars are not allowed to run with full ground effect as they would have done back in the day? I seem to recall on another posting a few years back, that historic racing cars with skirts have to run with a minimum height for their skirts so aren't brushing the ground with fully enclosed side pod venturies. I presume its for safety reasons. They had tendency to become unruly if they had unexpected lift through a corner going over an acute undulation or striking a curb perhaps at speed, thus dangerously losing suction. Further, to reduce advantage over those that don't have them when they are being run as they were intended.
@@Karlitox23 you do realize the newer cars are still making around the track FASTER than older cars right? They didn’t do much passing back in the day either… unless they were going against cars 3-4 seconds slower lap (which the newer cars have much smaller gaps)
@@manuelmayr8831 Initially the BMW powered teams introduced toluene rocket fuels, but very soon all the turbo powered teams adopted their own version, depending on which fuel brand sponsored them.
Shame the guy in Alfa V12 can't drive a lick, awesome car tho. The JPS Lotus' are timeless. Amazingly, Cosworth DF derivative V8s were used as late as 1997! Legendary engine.
Thats what im talking about for years....at that time was only ground effect...shorter wheelbase.....a huge enginne....and huge tires....and blood into the vains....no more.....
07:40, "Got to be a fit man." Really? That depends on what one considers to be fit. They weren't particularly fit back then. Certainly not by today's standards.
The commentating is terrible. There is no attempt at informing whatsoever. It’s just description. I want to know what car is what, what year, which is faster, who designed it, who is in what car, what engine does it have? What has the driver achieved, who are they? … oh someone is catching someone and it’s a turn up for the books is it? Why??
The audience dont have the percection of that lower speed cars.. But without all the aero stuff and tyres management and bla bla bla surely it could be better races with that cars.
Original turbo engines of that era would be very rare and very expensive now, and probably impossible to replace if they went bang. DFVs are still readily available and much less costly
Parce qu'elles seraient trop compliquées et pointues à piloter pour des pilotes ''amateur'' et également pour les régler et les faire bien rouler sans ingénieur.. C'est l'unique raison. Je l'ai entendu dans l'interview d'un des responsables de l'événement.😊
It's about time that they put the 1.5 litre turbo cars on the historic monaco program, then 3.5 litre after. It's part of the evolution of F1 history and it's what the fans really and expect. Otherwise if they try to keep it like this, it would become so boring like todays F1. Parts can be made for them cars and it's also more importantly about having the right people with the CAN DO attitude. Them turbos are complicated like todays cars. Again just need the right driver's and the right teams with the passion, love and the right attitude and it can be done. No Brainer
Fluent English makes for better racing anywhere chap!
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Real racing . With proper cars .....cars today are to technical, unexciting and beyond recognition to an average joe with dreams of speed ....bring them back ....get rid of high tech
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"Oh the Alfa didn't start!" Authentic '80s racing
Glorious comment
Smaller race cars makes for better racing in Monaco. 🎉
These are wider than todays cars.
Maybe Monaco should get bigger.
@@Scotracer1987 hahaha no, overall these cars are MUCH smaller
@@Scotracer1987 absolutely not, these things look tiny on this track
These at least look like shorter wheelbase, and better HP/weight ratio, but the KERS in modern F1 doubles the torque when used.
It'd be so cool to see this quality of stream/broadcast in the 80's when these cars were current. Seeing the legends in 4K
would be even cooler if F1 itself took part, maybe get the whole grid in a specific chassis like maybe the 2012 rb8 and hold a non-championship event
As a newer F1 fan whi has gone back and looked at a bit of the history, theres just so much, this is incredible❤🎉
Imo "85-"94(the Senna era) is the golden age/pinnacle of modern F1.
Also v10-3.5L of the early 2000's(Schumacher era) is amazing as well...19,000 rpms is mind boggling.
Wat makes Senna the best bcoz he won the world title in manual turbo v6, manual NA v8 and auto paddle shift NA v10 in a non active suspension and no traction control...
.... Mansell, Schumacher and Prost's 4th title are car aid
80's era F1 cars are so pleasing to the ears and eyes. Love this; esp the JPS Lotus
honestly, they should bring this back as a championship, with authentic cars, liveries correct, preferably year-correct, with a seperate, unofficial/official championship, 'F1 Classic', with proper drivers who put themselves available, perhaps even current F1 drivers, with the exception of rookies, minimal 5 years of relevant formula racing experience, and having had a superlicense or f1 entry in the past. let the cars run on X % of its original power if that might be a concern of safety. tires and brakes must be main important, and make it a sprint race lenght max, and perhaps including a mandatory pitstop.
Those JPS Lotus have got to be the most beautiful F1 cars ever produced.
1:12 that's exactly how Monaco sounds in my head.
Proper F1 cars.
Brings back memories of the days when F1 cars were beautiful and the racing was great. Not the crap served up today !
Thank you Goodwood for uploading this and letting us see these magnificent cars.
I hope they do soon early 2000's with V10s. That would be awesome.
The 90s and early 2000s is a must.
much more expensive and complicated than 80s cars
It is great to see these cars. We are more interested in the cars, names and models and years raced. Who is driving them now is not really that important.
Love Goodwood Road and Racing
now THIS is what we expect from F1 and INDYCAR
Beautiful ride. Owned a 78 Targa for years and loved it. Very well done and tasteful updates
Love watching this so much more than current F1.
Enjoy Monaco. Reminds me of walking up the hill from Tabac with a coffee and Croque Monsieur. The two dogs right alongside hoping for tasty morsels.
You painted racing moments like a Monet 🖼️, chapeau!
I remember fondly as a 10 year old loving the Benetton B186 and the Lancia S4! 1986 what a time to be watching motor racing.
Thank you RENAULT SPORT for creating and making the first F1 Turbo engine (V6 Bi-Turbo, 1.5L only, but in the end of its live until 1400hp in the qualifications! O_o) reliable in the end of the 1970's, and for its performance which imposed it on all F1 manufacturers! A blessed time in F1 that will never be seen again.
You meant the 80s not 70s right?
@@ifeeIcoke first turbo F1 car raced in 79 I believe
@@cvtt3194 yeah ik, but what throws me off is saying “reliable in the end of the 1970s”
@@cvtt3194 it was 1977
1400hp?
the marshalls throughout the week seemed so airheaded!
It would have been wonderful to have the camera show all the cars during the race. These are so beautiful.
Awesome to watch. I wasn't born yet to see this era of Racing so it's really cool to see this now.
i sat in Marco Werners car. It was the best experience!
É isso mesmo top show 👍🏁
This is awesome. This was my childhood era. Would be amazing to see them at a Grand Prix weekend
A lovely idea but they wouldn't dare do that. It would outshine 'the main event'!
There should be a series like this in parallel to modern F1. Like the senior’s tour in golf.
Pure driving and pure racing now.
As someone who actually attended F1 races in the 80’s the Turbos on street courses struggled. I was at USGP Long Beach when Lauda who started 21 and his teammate Watson 22nd came thru to finish 1st Watson and 2nd. Both were running Cosworth’s. Of course you had multiple tire manufacturers and the McLaren’s Goodyear’s were the tire to have. Throw in the races where 2/3’s of the grid blew up during the race. Most of the passing were back markers because of the 24-28 car starting grids
Monaco camera operators never change. 7:47
WHAT HAS HAPPENED? WE NEED TO KNOW!
Assistindo agora top10 👍
This is so amazing these guys are racing this hard in priceless pieces of history, hats off! Way more interesting than the parade we are treated to recently!
In all honesty the F1 needs cars around this size if they want to keep Monaco on the calendar. The teams should have a 2 million euro budget to spend on a small one off car around an F3ish monocoque and off the shelf V8 or V12 engine to race 100 laps of Monaco each year (semi enduro to really put strategy to the test), may the best constructor win!
this was much better than the actual formula 1 fashion tv models 💅💅💅💅
The lotus not catching the p1 man shows how legendary Aryton Senna was🎉
Thank you all at GR&R.
How I miss that era of F1 with its smaller cars where even Monaco seemed like a race track with several sections for overtaking.
Ahhhh, now that's racing!!!
This is what I'm talking about
Funny how we kids in 70s and 80s remember Lotus' cars as JPS, and Williams as Saudia.
Happy to see how we were and how we are nowadays.
Beautiful!!
Anyone know’s the list of cars? I can’t really see the turbo ones?
Going to be great
Would be cool if the Monaco F1 race was in these old cars. They fit Monaco so much better.
The issue with these older cars is that the drivers feet are typically infront of the front axle so, in any frontal accident, the driver is quite likely to suffer serious injury.
This was changed in the 90' IIRC.
sounds much more exciting than the crappy battery nonesense now
This is so much better than current F1
Isnt the commenator Walder Frey?
Que coisa linda é a Lotus Preta e dourada
Miss 80’s
Como ja sabia que tinha ocorrido?
Raridade
Torcendo o tempo todo para que os carros nao batessem kkk
Am I right that those ground effect cars are not allowed to run with full ground effect as they would have done back in the day?
I seem to recall on another posting a few years back, that historic racing cars with skirts have to run with a minimum height for their skirts so aren't brushing the ground with fully enclosed side pod venturies.
I presume its for safety reasons. They had tendency to become unruly if they had unexpected lift through a corner going over an acute undulation or striking a curb perhaps at speed, thus dangerously losing suction. Further, to reduce advantage over those that don't have them when they are being run as they were intended.
Stuart Hall leading from Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Rolf Harris and Max Clifford
Will we see the return of the V10s to Monaco in the future?
I want pov camera onboard
someone put an old school camera filter on this please! lol it would look amazing
So is Marlboro paying sponsorship fees for this as I thought they stopped that years ago ? Nice work around tho
back when cars fits in the monaco track
What if one of those cars crash? Not only are they extremely rare, they are worth insane amounts of money and difficult to rebuild.
This is how racing in monaco should be... Look at how fast they take the corners. This was way better than 70 post qualy cool down laps
@@Karlitox23 you realize the new cars are way faster right?
@nodekapunk you do realize that new cars are way bigger and heavier and make racing almost impossible in narrow streets?
@@Karlitox23 you do realize the newer cars are still making around the track FASTER than older cars right? They didn’t do much passing back in the day either… unless they were going against cars 3-4 seconds slower lap (which the newer cars have much smaller gaps)
Are they racing without the Hans device?
Many foreign racers use something similar to the Hutchens Device. Not sure about these guys yet
i love to see a wagon leading the field
Are those Lotus turbos? If so, probably not running the special toluene based rocket fuel they would have used in period.
As i know tolune was only used by a few teams like BMW, and than it was banned 87?
@@manuelmayr8831
Initially the BMW powered teams introduced toluene rocket fuels, but very soon all the turbo powered teams adopted their own version, depending on which fuel brand sponsored them.
with the Goodyear tyres they used to run on would be 1.5 to 2 seconds a lap quicker
What about that engines is it v8 ?? Google says thath mainly was V8 somethimes V6. I mean exactly 1980
Sweet...😎
昔の映像が綺麗なのは何故？
Thought I spotted Tony Stark there for a minute. 😊
Ken Tyrrell?
Não apareceu uma câmera onboard, que tristeza.
Shame the guy in Alfa V12 can't drive a lick, awesome car tho. The JPS Lotus' are timeless. Amazingly, Cosworth DF derivative V8s were used as late as 1997! Legendary engine.
Is that Ayrton's car
Thats what im talking about for years....at that time was only ground effect...shorter wheelbase.....a huge enginne....and huge tires....and blood into the vains....no more.....
07:40, "Got to be a fit man." Really? That depends on what one considers to be fit. They weren't particularly fit back then. Certainly not by today's standards.
Remember the time.
Real race cars
nice
It’s great to hear the engines, I’ll take real racing over modern F1 any day.
El Williams 28 de ( Reutemann) que abandona tiene un Cosworth V8 aspirado.....cero turbo.
Сучасна формула 1 нервово курить на балконі! 👍👍👍👍👍✌️🇺🇦✌️
❤❤
The commentating is terrible.
There is no attempt at informing whatsoever. It’s just description. I want to know what car is what, what year, which is faster, who designed it, who is in what car, what engine does it have? What has the driver achieved, who are they? … oh someone is catching someone and it’s a turn up for the books is it? Why??
Just throw away the new cars and make this regular F1
Такое ощущение, что комментаторы в студии постоянно что-то жевали и чавкали.
The audience dont have the percection of that lower speed cars.. But without all the aero stuff and tyres management and bla bla bla surely it could be better races with that cars.
No turbo cars this race
Idk why they're not willing to race actual turbo cars yet? I want to hear the husky V6 at full value
Original turbo engines of that era would be very rare and very expensive now, and probably impossible to replace if they went bang. DFVs are still readily available and much less costly
Parce qu'elles seraient trop compliquées et pointues à piloter pour des pilotes ''amateur'' et également pour les régler et les faire bien rouler sans ingénieur..
C'est l'unique raison. Je l'ai entendu dans l'interview d'un des responsables de l'événement.😊
It's about time that they put the 1.5 litre turbo cars on the historic monaco program, then 3.5 litre after. It's part of the evolution of F1 history and it's what the fans really and expect. Otherwise if they try to keep it like this, it would become so boring like todays F1. Parts can be made for them cars and it's also more importantly about having the right people with the CAN DO attitude. Them turbos are complicated like todays cars. Again just need the right driver's and the right teams with the passion, love and the right attitude and it can be done. No Brainer
@@LukeTansiongco the engines would be destroyed by the end of the race
Really This IS Fórmula 3 not F1
Wat
Big belly drivers era
lololol looks better and sounds better
No one overcomes Ayrton Senna the last, the best, the Monaco King. F1 today is a video game race.
Fluent English makes for better racing anywhere chap!
Real racing . With proper cars .....cars today are to technical, unexciting and beyond recognition to an average joe with dreams of speed ....bring them back ....get rid of high tech
:-)
So bad camera work...
Lotus, le più belle auto da corsa al mondo.
Thi is better than f1 of today indeed!