It is great to see these cars. We are more interested in the cars, names and models and years raced. Who is driving them now is not really that important.
Love watching this so much more than current F1. Enjoy Monaco. Reminds me of walking up the hill from Tabac with a coffee and Croque Monsieur. The two dogs right alongside hoping for tasty morsels.
Thank you RENAULT SPORT for creating and making the first F1 Turbo engine (V6 Bi-Turbo, 1.5L only, but in the end of its live until 1400hp in the qualifications! O_o) reliable in the end of the 1970's, and for its performance which imposed it on all F1 manufacturers! A blessed time in F1 that will never be seen again.
This is so amazing these guys are racing this hard in priceless pieces of history, hats off! Way more interesting than the parade we are treated to recently! In all honesty the F1 needs cars around this size if they want to keep Monaco on the calendar. The teams should have a 2 million euro budget to spend on a small one off car around an F3ish monocoque and off the shelf V8 or V12 engine to race 100 laps of Monaco each year (semi enduro to really put strategy to the test), may the best constructor win!
As someone who actually attended F1 races in the 80’s the Turbos on street courses struggled. I was at USGP Long Beach when Lauda who started 21 and his teammate Watson 22nd came thru to finish 1st Watson and 2nd. Both were running Cosworth’s. Of course you had multiple tire manufacturers and the McLaren’s Goodyear’s were the tire to have. Throw in the races where 2/3’s of the grid blew up during the race. Most of the passing were back markers because of the 24-28 car starting grids
The issue with these older cars is that the drivers feet are typically infront of the front axle so, in any frontal accident, the driver is quite likely to suffer serious injury. This was changed in the 90' IIRC.
Am I right that those ground effect cars are not allowed to run with full ground effect as they would have done back in the day? I seem to recall on another posting a few years back, that historic racing cars with skirts have to run with a minimum height for their skirts so aren't brushing the ground with fully enclosed side pod venturies. I presume its for safety reasons. They had tendency to become unruly if they had unexpected lift through a corner going over an acute undulation or striking a curb perhaps at speed, thus dangerously losing suction. Further, to reduce advantage over those that don't have them when they are being run as they were intended.
Thats what im talking about for years....at that time was only ground effect...shorter wheelbase.....a huge enginne....and huge tires....and blood into the vains....no more.....
@@manuelmayr8831 Initially the BMW powered teams introduced toluene rocket fuels, but very soon all the turbo powered teams adopted their own version, depending on which fuel brand sponsored them.
Shame the guy in Alfa V12 can't drive a lick, awesome car tho. The JPS Lotus' are timeless. Amazingly, Cosworth DF derivative V8s were used as late as 1997! Legendary engine.
07:40, "Got to be a fit man." Really? That depends on what one considers to be fit. They weren't particularly fit back then. Certainly not by today's standards.
Original turbo engines of that era would be very rare and very expensive now, and probably impossible to replace if they went bang. DFVs are still readily available and much less costly
Parce qu'elles seraient trop compliquées et pointues à piloter pour des pilotes ''amateur'' et également pour les régler et les faire bien rouler sans ingénieur.. C'est l'unique raison. Je l'ai entendu dans l'interview d'un des responsables de l'événement.😊
It's about time that they put the 1.5 litre turbo cars on the historic monaco program, then 3.5 litre after. It's part of the evolution of F1 history and it's what the fans really and expect. Otherwise if they try to keep it like this, it would become so boring like todays F1. Parts can be made for them cars and it's also more importantly about having the right people with the CAN DO attitude. Them turbos are complicated like todays cars. Again just need the right driver's and the right teams with the passion, love and the right attitude and it can be done. No Brainer
The audience dont have the percection of that lower speed cars.. But without all the aero stuff and tyres management and bla bla bla surely it could be better races with that cars.
The commentating is terrible. There is no attempt at informing whatsoever. It’s just description. I want to know what car is what, what year, which is faster, who designed it, who is in what car, what engine does it have? What has the driver achieved, who are they? … oh someone is catching someone and it’s a turn up for the books is it? Why??
"Oh the Alfa didn't start!" Authentic '80s racing
Glorious comment
Smaller race cars makes for better racing in Monaco. 🎉
These are wider than todays cars.
Maybe Monaco should get bigger.
@@Scotracer1987 hahaha no, overall these cars are MUCH smaller
@@Scotracer1987 absolutely not, these things look tiny on this track
These at least look like shorter wheelbase, and better HP/weight ratio, but the KERS in modern F1 doubles the torque when used.
It'd be so cool to see this quality of stream/broadcast in the 80's when these cars were current. Seeing the legends in 4K
would be even cooler if F1 itself took part, maybe get the whole grid in a specific chassis like maybe the 2012 rb8 and hold a non-championship event
As a newer F1 fan whi has gone back and looked at a bit of the history, theres just so much, this is incredible❤🎉
80's era F1 cars are so pleasing to the ears and eyes. Love this; esp the JPS Lotus
It is great to see these cars. We are more interested in the cars, names and models and years raced. Who is driving them now is not really that important.
I hope they do soon early 2000's with V10s. That would be awesome.
The 90s and early 2000s is a must.
Those JPS Lotus have got to be the most beautiful F1 cars ever produced.
1:12 that's exactly how Monaco sounds in my head.
Proper F1 cars.
Love Goodwood Road and Racing
now THIS is what we expect from F1 and INDYCAR
I remember fondly as a 10 year old loving the Benetton B186 and the Lancia S4! 1986 what a time to be watching motor racing.
Love watching this so much more than current F1.
Enjoy Monaco. Reminds me of walking up the hill from Tabac with a coffee and Croque Monsieur. The two dogs right alongside hoping for tasty morsels.
You painted racing moments like a Monet 🖼️, chapeau!
Thank you Goodwood for uploading this and letting us see these magnificent cars.
Thank you RENAULT SPORT for creating and making the first F1 Turbo engine (V6 Bi-Turbo, 1.5L only, but in the end of its live until 1400hp in the qualifications! O_o) reliable in the end of the 1970's, and for its performance which imposed it on all F1 manufacturers! A blessed time in F1 that will never be seen again.
You meant the 80s not 70s right?
@@ifeelcoke4347 first turbo F1 car raced in 79 I believe
@@cvtt3194 yeah ik, but what throws me off is saying “reliable in the end of the 1970s”
@@cvtt3194 it was 1977
1400hp?
This is so amazing these guys are racing this hard in priceless pieces of history, hats off! Way more interesting than the parade we are treated to recently!
In all honesty the F1 needs cars around this size if they want to keep Monaco on the calendar. The teams should have a 2 million euro budget to spend on a small one off car around an F3ish monocoque and off the shelf V8 or V12 engine to race 100 laps of Monaco each year (semi enduro to really put strategy to the test), may the best constructor win!
Beautiful ride. Owned a 78 Targa for years and loved it. Very well done and tasteful updates
the marshalls throughout the week seemed so airheaded!
Awesome to watch. I wasn't born yet to see this era of Racing so it's really cool to see this now.
Brings back memories of the days when F1 cars were beautiful and the racing was great. Not the crap served up today !
As someone who actually attended F1 races in the 80’s the Turbos on street courses struggled. I was at USGP Long Beach when Lauda who started 21 and his teammate Watson 22nd came thru to finish 1st Watson and 2nd. Both were running Cosworth’s. Of course you had multiple tire manufacturers and the McLaren’s Goodyear’s were the tire to have. Throw in the races where 2/3’s of the grid blew up during the race. Most of the passing were back markers because of the 24-28 car starting grids
This is awesome. This was my childhood era. Would be amazing to see them at a Grand Prix weekend
A lovely idea but they wouldn't dare do that. It would outshine 'the main event'!
Pure driving and pure racing now.
There should be a series like this in parallel to modern F1. Like the senior’s tour in golf.
Monaco camera operators never change. 7:47
WHAT HAS HAPPENED? WE NEED TO KNOW!
É isso mesmo top show 👍🏁
This is what I'm talking about
Thank you all at GR&R.
Would be cool if the Monaco F1 race was in these old cars. They fit Monaco so much better.
The issue with these older cars is that the drivers feet are typically infront of the front axle so, in any frontal accident, the driver is quite likely to suffer serious injury.
This was changed in the 90' IIRC.
this was much better than the actual formula 1 fashion tv models 💅💅💅💅
sounds much more exciting than the crappy battery nonesense now
Funny how we kids in 70s and 80s remember Lotus' cars as JPS, and Williams as Saudia.
Happy to see how we were and how we are nowadays.
This is so much better than current F1
Assistindo agora top10 👍
This is how racing in monaco should be... Look at how fast they take the corners. This was way better than 70 post qualy cool down laps
Ahhhh, now that's racing!!!
Como ja sabia que tinha ocorrido?
Raridade
Torcendo o tempo todo para que os carros nao batessem kkk
Am I right that those ground effect cars are not allowed to run with full ground effect as they would have done back in the day?
I seem to recall on another posting a few years back, that historic racing cars with skirts have to run with a minimum height for their skirts so aren't brushing the ground with fully enclosed side pod venturies.
I presume its for safety reasons. They had tendency to become unruly if they had unexpected lift through a corner going over an acute undulation or striking a curb perhaps at speed, thus dangerously losing suction. Further, to reduce advantage over those that don't have them when they are being run as they were intended.
Anyone know’s the list of cars? I can’t really see the turbo ones?
Going to be great
Beautiful!!
Will we see the return of the V10s to Monaco in the future?
Isnt the commenator Walder Frey?
Miss 80’s
with the Goodyear tyres they used to run on would be 1.5 to 2 seconds a lap quicker
someone put an old school camera filter on this please! lol it would look amazing
So is Marlboro paying sponsorship fees for this as I thought they stopped that years ago ? Nice work around tho
back when cars fits in the monaco track
What about that engines is it v8 ?? Google says thath mainly was V8 somethimes V6. I mean exactly 1980
Stuart Hall leading from Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Rolf Harris and Max Clifford
Thats what im talking about for years....at that time was only ground effect...shorter wheelbase.....a huge enginne....and huge tires....and blood into the vains....no more.....
i love to see a wagon leading the field
Are those Lotus turbos? If so, probably not running the special toluene based rocket fuel they would have used in period.
As i know tolune was only used by a few teams like BMW, and than it was banned 87?
@@manuelmayr8831
Initially the BMW powered teams introduced toluene rocket fuels, but very soon all the turbo powered teams adopted their own version, depending on which fuel brand sponsored them.
Are they racing without the Hans device?
Many foreign racers use something similar to the Hutchens Device. Not sure about these guys yet
Shame the guy in Alfa V12 can't drive a lick, awesome car tho. The JPS Lotus' are timeless. Amazingly, Cosworth DF derivative V8s were used as late as 1997! Legendary engine.
昔の映像が綺麗なのは何故？
Thought I spotted Tony Stark there for a minute. 😊
It’s great to hear the engines, I’ll take real racing over modern F1 any day.
Não apareceu uma câmera onboard, que tristeza.
Sweet...😎
Ken Tyrrell?
Is that Ayrton's car
07:40, "Got to be a fit man." Really? That depends on what one considers to be fit. They weren't particularly fit back then. Certainly not by today's standards.
Just throw away the new cars and make this regular F1
nice
Такое ощущение, что комментаторы в студии постоянно что-то жевали и чавкали.
Сучасна формула 1 нервово курить на балконі! 👍👍👍👍👍✌️🇺🇦✌️
❤❤
No turbo cars this race
Idk why they're not willing to race actual turbo cars yet? I want to hear the husky V6 at full value
Original turbo engines of that era would be very rare and very expensive now, and probably impossible to replace if they went bang. DFVs are still readily available and much less costly
Parce qu'elles seraient trop compliquées et pointues à piloter pour des pilotes ''amateur'' et également pour les régler et les faire bien rouler sans ingénieur..
C'est l'unique raison. Je l'ai entendu dans l'interview d'un des responsables de l'événement.😊
It's about time that they put the 1.5 litre turbo cars on the historic monaco program, then 3.5 litre after. It's part of the evolution of F1 history and it's what the fans really and expect. Otherwise if they try to keep it like this, it would become so boring like todays F1. Parts can be made for them cars and it's also more importantly about having the right people with the CAN DO attitude. Them turbos are complicated like todays cars. Again just need the right driver's and the right teams with the passion, love and the right attitude and it can be done. No Brainer
The audience dont have the percection of that lower speed cars.. But without all the aero stuff and tyres management and bla bla bla surely it could be better races with that cars.
Really This IS Fórmula 3 not F1
Wat
lololol looks better and sounds better
No one overcomes Ayrton Senna the last, the best, the Monaco King. F1 today is a video game race.
:-)
The commentating is terrible.
There is no attempt at informing whatsoever. It’s just description. I want to know what car is what, what year, which is faster, who designed it, who is in what car, what engine does it have? What has the driver achieved, who are they? … oh someone is catching someone and it’s a turn up for the books is it? Why??
So bad camera work...
Lotus, le più belle auto da corsa al mondo.
Thi is better than f1 of today indeed!