This is why I became a patreon member. The fun videos might have made me a subscriber, but the health and wellbeing of all of the animals requires some extra help.
That was interesting..Thanks Jessi.. I have one parakeet and one cockatiel...SO far they are fine. My cockatiel is 21 yrs old and I have had him for almost 21 yrs but He cannot fly anymore but he still eats well and plays with me too. I have him out of his cage many times a day for enrichment as he does not like his toys. He rather sit on my shoulder or play games with me.
Ohhhh crap... started feeling the frustration and heartache the moment I read the title and saw Joys pic. I've had an avery of Canaries wiped out inspite of my best efforts. Best of luck Jessi and the team, thank you for going the hardyards it sometimes takes when it comes to our sensitive feathered buddies!
That's extremely helpful information. We recently had an aviary built with the intent to make space for rescue parrots in need. My greatest fear is something like PDD or Beak and Feather cropping up and devastating my babies. Getting this information from you and the latest updates on the disease is a relief just cuz I now know it doesn't mean a death sentence for everyone if it shows up and there's ways of detecting it.
Jessi, you are the best human ever! I don't have a bird but I like watching bird videos on RUclips. Thank you for taking such good care of the ones you have.
Wow, what a healthy outlook. Great info too. All of you are such wonderful people. To Joy and all the other birds at Animal Wonders Montana, may you have amazing birdie lives ❤❤❤
I have a few pets here myself and as soon as one has something comes up I cry and stress, wonder what I did wrong and rush off to the vet. I can imagine you're very distressed by this development and I hope you don't give in to blaming yourself. You are a great care provider to your animals and they will have the best care with you. No one could do better. You're an inspiration!
I wish I could be of more help to you, Jessi. The most I can offer is my best wishes for Joy and all your other birds as well as my praise for how great you and your organization are. It's a shame that horrible groups like PETA get more attention than you do, but that's beside the point. Thank you for all the wonderful things you've shared with us and your animals, and I hope Joy gets well soon!
Hey Jessi & Wonders team, I am an aspiring Avian vet and starting veterinary science next year. I recently lost a Macaw I work with to PDD, you will definitely know when the symptoms start to negatively affect the bird. Our blue and gold macaw, George, carried PDD for 7 years before showing signs. In honesty, he was in perfect health and feather otherwise. But it's amazing to know you can now test for it now! Can I ask what research paper where you discovered this? I'd love to read it!! Joy and all the other animals are in fantastic care, no doubt! All the best Georgia & Casper the budgie
I hope you get this message. I am also a private bird rescue & am now hit with ABV 💔 My African Grey started showing symptoms. After x-rays and barium x-rays and blood test two part to check for positive bornavirus, everything pointed to the virus. My grey was put on an antibiotic do to a secondary infection and an anti-inflammatory injection that lasts for a week. We are only one week in and my bird is doing much better already. The interesting part of all of this is the blood test came back positive for the bornavirus but the second part that is supposed to be the definitive test came back negative. I'm going tomorrow with him back to the avian vet to get a recheck and another injection and to find out why all their testing was positive but the blood test was negative. This is a horrible scary disease especially for us in Rescue. I have 46 birds and they all hang out together all the time. I am beyond devastated and petrified. Right now my only goal is to keep my African Grey alive and take all the necessary precautions to keep my other birds safe. I'm sure at this point they have all been exposed. I have no idea who is the carrier or how many carriers there are. This past summer I brought in a new African Grey rescue 18 years old and she is now the mate of the sick African Grey. The new Rescue is not showing any signs of being sick but came here very skinny and was told she was skinny her whole life. I keep thinking she's the carrier but I'm probably wrong. But in any event she has now been exposed. I don't even know where to turn because of course the Vets tell you there's nothing they can do for him. But I'm doing everything in my power to make him better and it's working so far. But I don't know if he's going to keep getting better or he is going to start declining again. We always wonder what brings out the virus when they're carrying it. The only difference in my life is that my mother is extremely ill and I have been spending most of my time in the hospital with her. I am sure this is bringing stress to my animals because they're used to me always being around. This is the only thing I can think of that their routine has been completely broken. I just thought if we can put our information together maybe we could figure things out. Again I hope you get this message because I know this is an old video 💕
Thank you, Jessi! Sometimes it's hard to know what to do when you have an animal who isn't well. Wishing Joy and all of the birds at Animal Wonders the best and happiest life possible!
My African Grey died from PDD when he was only 5, so my heart goes out to you. I'll be thinking of you guys; at least Joy has the best chance possible given her surroundings and the care and love you give her.
My little love bird has been diagnosed with ABV. Fortunately, i work for an avian vet so I have access to care. I’m so glad awareness about this horrible disease is spreading!
oh no... jessi, i hope joy is alright. you are doing your best to take care of joy and the other parrots. i really hope she will make it through. stay strong, joy, we are all here for you. praying every night for joy! 💝
Hi I just came across this video today, I'm wondering if any updates or any treatments are now available for PDD, I'm an new bird mom and I just love this channel I've learned so much. Thank you for all that you do, you are awesome
Oh man, thats terrible! Poor Joy, she had it so rough in her life already 😯 fingers crossed for you, Joy! Youre under the best care possible, and you are such a strong bird, you can beat this illness! 🐦
My bird is my little BFF. It seems like birds are either real healthy or kaput...just like that. So knowing some of the things to watch out for really helps. Thank you for sharing this info with us - heartfelt best wishes for you and Joy and all the other birds.
the cutest thing ever happened to me last night. a random kitty walked up on my driveway meowing like crazy. came right up to me on the pourch. long story short: she loves her new enviroment and she no longer is thirsty, hungry, dirty, or alone. : ]
I'd love to get to see some of those play sessions, especially birds interacting and playing with other birds, even more so if they are different kinds. I don't see it that often and I know people would love it!
I was not a bird person at all. Then a bird/reptile rescue many of my lizards come from got this poor boy. He can not be housed with other birds due to PDD for years. He is a white bellied caique. He has some neuro issues with biting his leg when stressed but other then that is a super happy well fed clown. I've found if he has a "freak out" when I'm holding him if I softly soothe him it passes faster. I am so happy this sweet funny guy is in my life.
Oh gosh Joy! Lots of love! I wouldn’t test the rest of the flock either, unless you’re bringing in a new bird. But we have both FIV+ cats as well as non. They’re just mostly separated : /. So as carefully as y’all manage your populations and ambassadors I know you would find a way to do it perfectly. Mua!
armysister125 they can spread it through bites, so rough play can absolutely spread the disease from one pet to another. Beyond that, positive cats have much weaker immune systems so you much watch the spread of illness between your positive and negative cats, as something simple can kill an FIV positive cat.
Wow that must have been so hard to learn, and have to then think about all the flock, not just Joy herself. I've had to make the hard decision to put down my old and very sick cat, who was my baby, but that was 1) compassionate care and 2) a single individual... This doesn't compare and I know that. My heart to all of you for the amount of mental stresses this will cause for the foreseeable future. I'm wondering though, are these diseases transferable to other animals/humans in some form? I know that's a risk for some diseases, while others are strictly mammalian/reptilian/avian only, and I'm curious where these fall in?
Really happy that you are sharing how the animals are doing. Even though this is not great news, thank you for sharing the obstacles that get in your way. I plan to work with animals one day and I love your channel so much.
Thank you Jessica for your wonderful knowledge and sharing it and your beautiful animals with all of us! Please give them all a bit of love from SW South Dakota! 💋💞
The parrot rescue in a surrounding area further out from us here in MI is run by a dedicated husband & wife team. They are so awesome giving their all to the animal rescue endeavor, and have a couple different rooms for housing different species of birds. This past year their senior/special needs blue & gold macaw and Citron Cockatoo passed away. Even after many years of excellent care, they both ended up dying because the damage to their lungs from previous neglect/abuse from past situations had caught up with them..there was nothing that could be done, it was just their time to go :( they were so loved, and they got to be home with one of them when it passed, so at least they got some closure knowing they did their best with their senior feathered friends. Their birdie bodies were just too worn out. Fly free sweet friends.
Thank you for doing your research and showing us these recent researches! Another reason why I love this channel ❤️ Anyways, hope all turns out well 🤞🏼
Test them all and segment those that have the virus from those that don't. That sounds expensive and wasteful but if you can avoid spreading it to those that don't you might end up saving them from it.
Jessi, I think you should test them. Just so if they were to suddenly all pass away, you wouldn’t be frustrated not knowing why. Also, you can make their lives more fun and make the most of it.
I’m really glad it’s not a doom sentence for the birds! My budgie died of a sudden illness years ago, literally showing symptoms to gone within a morning. I know how hard it is to lose a bird from their secretive nature,
We are going through the same thing currently. We quarantine, test and see an avian vet and still wound up with an infected bird. We had to put one bird down and are waiting for the necropsy results before we make any decisions on our remaining Birds. Unfortunately most avian diseases are airborne and a bird that is a carrier of the disease can test negative if they are not currently shedding the virus. Which makes testing for the same diseases multiple times over a series of time important. In my research I found a study done on Cockatiels and turkeys infected with a common avian virus. It took a series of tests over 18 months for all infected birds to shed the virus and therfore test positive. The whole experience has been, overwhelming, heartbreaking and has really rocked me to my core. What makes it worse is the lack of consensus amongst veterinarians as to the seriousness of symptom free carrier birds. My biggest concerns are spreading disease to wild birds and captive breeding facilities.
Oh, wow, my heart goes out to everyone at Animal Wonders. I've found myself in a surprisingly similar situation recently. One of our rescue cats recently tested positive for Coronavirus, which, it turns out, is super duper common amongst cats and highly contagious. But, most cats experience it as a couple days of diarrhea and then develop antibodies and it doesn't bother them again. But a small percentage can't kick the virus, so they develop what's called FIP, which is exactly the same strain of the virus, but because they can't kick it out of their system, their body freaks out and eventually dies. Symptoms include lack of coordination, lack of appetite, and several others. There's no cure and not much you can do, other than make sure that your cats have as great a life as they can, for however long they live. I had no idea there was such a similar condition amongst birds. I am completely sure you'll make the best decisions for every bird in your care. I hope they all have long lives, but no matter what, as much as possible, I hope you are able to take comfort in the knowledge that you're giving them amazing experiences, and that their lives are as good as they can be.
I just lost my best friend to bornavirus. When he first started acting funny, we took him to the vet and they prescribed him something. I forgot what it was, but it made him feel better for a short while. Up until the day he died in my hands, he always was throwing up since he was around 3 years old. Poor guy. We were trying to get him to the vet to be put down, but I think he wanted to pass with me.. His life was cut short at 4. Scooter was a cockatiel and he was the best pet in the world, but now I have bandit, his son(?)... (offspring) - and thankfully he hasn't showed any symptoms. That was the saddest day of my life. I feel blessed just to have Bandit to remember him by. If you are thinking about getting a bird, you better treat them right. Its a lot of work. They are such intelligent and loving creatures.. When they want to be. Children (8 - 15) are a no go, especially young and lazy kids.
fpv for cats seems to be in the same boat as this, that it's super common, and can have devastating symptoms-- but, my cats that had/have it are doing just fine as long as we take the best care of them that we can! chronic conditions for animals can be scary, but, if you give them the right care like you do, it'll all be okay
Very interesting. Boa Constrictors can carry a disease called INCLUSION BODY DISEASE (IBD) that will kill a Royal Python (and other pythons) very quickly. Boas can die from it too sometimes. The only tests for that were after death occurred but there's tests to diagnose now but still no treatment. The symptoms are very similar to PDD in birds (know the PDD symtoms from your video ☺️ thank you) They've discovered that part of the genetic make up of this disease is also found to be part of the genetic make up of the human flu. If i even have a cold i don't handle any of my rescues now. Good to make people aware of these new diseases discovered. Great video, thank you again.
Lots of love and wishes of ongoing health for Joy and the whole flock (on top of the ones I'm always wishing for Huckleberry and Blueberry and the rest!) from my rescued feline trio and me!
@AnimalWonders: I really enjoyed your video. Such useful information. I have had my Orange Wing Amazon for 34yrs now & he's never had these issues thank goodness. On RUclips however there seems to be many birds that have the plucking issue of the likes that I've never seen before which I thought was strange. Many of these folks take their birds to vets & yet the plucking issue is never addressed which I think is very strange. It's also strange that many of these people's birds die really young. I have only taken my bird to the vet once for wing clipping. He showed me how to properly clip my bird so that I didn't have to bring him back for that and he hasnt been to a vet since. He's been wonderfully healthy. He was poached and brought into the U.S. and I rescued him. I have bred, raised a lot of birds in my day, many of them wild and you're so right. Birds are very sensitive & susceptible to illness or disease & do die rather quickly from it. Thank you for sharing. I hope other birders see this video.
Jeez man...I gotta bird proof my house now... My mom would be heart broken if our sun conure got sick from her scented incense..I should probably test him too because hes a rescue but he's not showing sickly signs...Just to be sure
Well.. that sucks to hear, Jessi =/ I still think beak and feather's disease is worse than PDD, but both are terrible and devastating. I'd suggest testing for all birds and seeing if you can split them into two groups: carrier/non carrier and maybe house them apart.. possible best outcome? i dont know..
Oh and have a great life joy and the other birds you guys are great and I hope you're safe cuz you guys are amazing Birds, love you guys just the same as much as I love my birds.
thanks for making this video, this was in the foremind when adopting my b/g macaw jack, you made me feel at ease knowing that im not the only one that thinks this way. good luck with the feathered friends.
I recently lost my 39 year old ecelectus. When I fist rescued her, I had no records of her past. I’m now left with a 10-12 year old budgie. Recently I’ve noticed some odd behavior. Before anyone tells me it’s normal, I’m quite aware that it isn’t. As much as budgies regurgitate as sign of affection or courtship, it’s different. The past month she’s been vomiting a thick white substance. She’s always with me, so I’ve seen it happen many times. My local avian vet says it’s normal regurgitation. I’ve never seen a budgie vomit large amounts of a thick white liquid substance. I can’t get her any help. Does anyone have suggestions.
Hi Jessi had a Sun Conure named "Banjo" who was under the care of an avian vet who told us "Banjo" was suffering from a thing called the Wasting disease where he would eat but just pass most of his food out we also had a necropsy performed which agreed. Top bird 5 years old never bit just cuddle till the last 2 weeks when he became very aggressive with no feather or weight loss (the vet explained why he got aggressive ,a natural thing for them to do in the wild) Now have a Green Cheek Conure named "Iba" *Garth*
I think my 13 year old African Grey may have PDD. Still waiting for the test results. But I’m devastated that it’s possible my two other birds have it as well (my newest bird (had her for a few years)may be asymptomatic and have spread it?) it’s so hard watching his motor skills decline, usual behavior change, and suspect that this may be why he hasn’t been talking much over a few years. But still not being entirely sure why and how to help him
I never knew about the virus! I had a healthy, quirky derpy little 2 yo Nanday. For almost a year. And then one week i noticed a drastic weight loss (even though she was eating like crazy and even still playing and stealing food from the other birds). I ignorantly dismissed the weight loss, and gut feeling to get her into a vet, and 4 days later she was gone. She had about 10 seizures that i know of alone before she just collapsed. The ABV had caused a hole to form in her stomach which sent all her food to her chest. :'( i wish i had known then.
I hope you get to test all the birds, just to at least have the data! Having the data is the first step. You can work from there. Much love to all y'all in this difficult time.
I hope they get better! Or at the very least they don't develop the worse of the symptoms. A request I would like is for you to (gently) tap some of the birds on the beak and say "boop"?? It would make my day, and while it may not improve anything other than many peoples' mood, I would still like to see it. Take care and much love from New Zealand!!
Here I thought PBFD was the biggest and scarriest disease to worry about my cockatiel somehow getting...this one is WAY worse and I'd never even heard of it before. :/ I guess that's just one more thing for this bird momma to worry about. I hope your flock is all well and that everyone stays healthy.
I already mentioned this in another comment, but do not worry about Bornavirus spreading to your other birds. New data indicates it is mostly spread from hen to egg, and not between birds in proximity to one another. Also, there is a treatment for AG (avian ganglioneuritis, previously called PDD), and it involves administering antinflammitories such as oral celebrax twice a day or other mediciations I cannot remember. Like you said, a very large percent of birds already carry ABV and don't show symptoms. That means if you did test all of your other birds, then statistically some of them will have ABV already. However, for asymptomatic birds, there is a high false negative rate for ABV tests so you might not even get definitive results from testing. You can run an AGAA test to determine if they are actively developing the antibodies that cause avian ganglioneuritis, which would be the best way to tell if treatment is needed, but I wouldn't be concerned since developing symptoms is so uncommon. Please take a look at Lafeber's video series featuring Dr. Susan Orosz when you have the time. She is extremely knowledgeable on the most recent information and can tell you a lot about how AG works and how it can be treated. In recent years, the quality and length of life for AG birds has dramatically improved, but you have to make sure you are following recommendations and administering the proper treatment.
I had a Hahn’s Macaw named Kiwi who died from PDD. I actually lost another bird around the same time. (A cockatiel named Chieko, he was like 20 when he passed) Anyways, Kiwi would have seizures that honestly scared the crap out of me. We had to put him down and I still get sad thinking about him.
My parakeet died two weeks ago and I've been trying to figure out the cause of death without a visit to the vet and I think he may have had PDD. When I got him a year ago he came with a mate and both had bald spots. Both birds were frequently bathed, fed a nutritious diet of pellets, vegetables, fruits, and occasionally seeds. Both birds had bald spots on their wings but I didn't notice and signs of plucking. The female died two months after we got her after being attacked by a cat, but the male lived nearly a year before dying very suddenly. He showed no signs of dehydration or lethargy before dying. He did fall off his perch a few days before passing and couldn't use one of his feet for like 2 hours. A couple of hours before going he was happy and chirping, but his stool was large, black, and had the consistency of jam. I wasn't able to get him to a vet because it was 5 am and nowhere was open. Is it possible he had PDD? If he did, what can I do for the other parakeet who was housed with him?
clicking on the dislike button is the only way to get youtube's AI to stop giving you similar video suggestions in the right hand suggestion list. Perhaps the person doesn't have a bird and just wanted talking bird videos.
It's also possible the dislikes are from people who aren't as familiar with RUclips and just wanted to express their sadness. Kinda like saying, "Man, that sucks."
I had 3 birds and they all died within a year because the store we bought them from was selling PDD and ABV ridden birds. My last baby died on thursday. We took such good care of them that they did not have any presenting symptoms, and it was extremely hard for our family. Please please please do your research on bird breeders and make sure to take them to the vet when you get them. We had no idea the bird breeder was behind this and I blamed myself for the longest time until the most recent tragedy.
Hi :)) Im a new subscriber. My lovebird has PDD from borna virus, dx’d one year ago as she presented signs of weight loss and neurological problems (unable to walk, control movements). She is still alive and active, doing well tho her poops are small/thin and she is way under weight and has trouble gaining. She is happy and active and seems the same as she always was. I just wanted to alert everyone that there is treatment. My avian vet was knowledgable and helpful with new treatments. I recommend any bird parent to buy a scale to weigh your bird on a regular basis. I purchased mine on amazon for $20. Weight loss may be the first symptom of this awful illness - knowledge of the weight loss and help from an avian vet may save your bird’s life :))
I'm so sorry your little one has PDD. It's such a hard diagnosis. But, I'm glad you have a great avian vet to help. There are a few medications that can help decrease the inflammation, and there's ongoing research for better treatment options and a cure that I hope is found soon. I'm sending all my love to you and your wonderful feathered friend.
this explains why the Petco noted that they tested for that virus on the cards for their Conures. I knew it was a virus they could get, but I didn't know it could be fatal.
This is why I became a patreon member. The fun videos might have made me a subscriber, but the health and wellbeing of all of the animals requires some extra help.
Thank you for your support!! It's so greatly appreciated!!
Me too James!
That was interesting..Thanks Jessi.. I have one parakeet and one cockatiel...SO far they are fine. My cockatiel is 21 yrs old and I have had him for almost 21 yrs but He cannot fly anymore but he still eats well and plays with me too. I have him out of his cage many times a day for enrichment as he does not like his toys. He rather sit on my shoulder or play games with me.
Sounds a lot like mine.
im worries, is he still alive?
How old is your parakeet?
Please send love and regards to Joy, she is strong and I know she’ll be able to fight whatever comes her way.
And please also welcome Scarlet from me!
Me and my four birds send your birds all the love and head scratches that they need!
Ohhhh crap... started feeling the frustration and heartache the moment I read the title and saw Joys pic. I've had an avery of Canaries wiped out inspite of my best efforts. Best of luck Jessi and the team, thank you for going the hardyards it sometimes takes when it comes to our sensitive feathered buddies!
That's extremely helpful information. We recently had an aviary built with the intent to make space for rescue parrots in need. My greatest fear is something like PDD or Beak and Feather cropping up and devastating my babies. Getting this information from you and the latest updates on the disease is a relief just cuz I now know it doesn't mean a death sentence for everyone if it shows up and there's ways of detecting it.
Jessi, you are the best human ever! I don't have a bird but I like watching bird videos on RUclips. Thank you for taking such good care of the ones you have.
Wow, what a healthy outlook. Great info too. All of you are such wonderful people. To Joy and all the other birds at Animal Wonders Montana, may you have amazing birdie lives ❤❤❤
I have a few pets here myself and as soon as one has something comes up I cry and stress, wonder what I did wrong and rush off to the vet. I can imagine you're very distressed by this development and I hope you don't give in to blaming yourself. You are a great care provider to your animals and they will have the best care with you. No one could do better. You're an inspiration!
This was hard to watch... great video and channel though I liked and subbed! I just hope it’s not as bad.
I wish I could be of more help to you, Jessi. The most I can offer is my best wishes for Joy and all your other birds as well as my praise for how great you and your organization are. It's a shame that horrible groups like PETA get more attention than you do, but that's beside the point. Thank you for all the wonderful things you've shared with us and your animals, and I hope Joy gets well soon!
Hey Jessi & Wonders team, I am an aspiring Avian vet and starting veterinary science next year. I recently lost a Macaw I work with to PDD, you will definitely know when the symptoms start to negatively affect the bird. Our blue and gold macaw, George, carried PDD for 7 years before showing signs. In honesty, he was in perfect health and feather otherwise. But it's amazing to know you can now test for it now! Can I ask what research paper where you discovered this? I'd love to read it!! Joy and all the other animals are in fantastic care, no doubt! All the best Georgia & Casper the budgie
with a test available now, and it being a relative of rabies/HSV, they might even have a vaccination available at some point.
Good luck on your medical journey. As you can tell from all the you tube subscribers, you will be in demand once you get your license.
Hows it going for you?
I hope you get this message. I am also a private bird rescue & am now hit with ABV 💔 My African Grey started showing symptoms. After x-rays and barium x-rays and blood test two part to check for positive bornavirus, everything pointed to the virus. My grey was put on an antibiotic do to a secondary infection and an anti-inflammatory injection that lasts for a week. We are only one week in and my bird is doing much better already. The interesting part of all of this is the blood test came back positive for the bornavirus but the second part that is supposed to be the definitive test came back negative. I'm going tomorrow with him back to the avian vet to get a recheck and another injection and to find out why all their testing was positive but the blood test was negative. This is a horrible scary disease especially for us in Rescue. I have 46 birds and they all hang out together all the time. I am beyond devastated and petrified. Right now my only goal is to keep my African Grey alive and take all the necessary precautions to keep my other birds safe. I'm sure at this point they have all been exposed. I have no idea who is the carrier or how many carriers there are. This past summer I brought in a new African Grey rescue 18 years old and she is now the mate of the sick African Grey.
The new Rescue is not showing any signs of being sick but came here very skinny and was told she was skinny her whole life. I keep thinking she's the carrier but I'm probably wrong. But in any event she has now been exposed. I don't even know where to turn because of course the Vets tell you there's nothing they can do for him. But I'm doing everything in my power to make him better and it's working so far. But I don't know if he's going to keep getting better or he is going to start declining again. We always wonder what brings out the virus when they're carrying it. The only difference in my life is that my mother is extremely ill and I have been spending most of my time in the hospital with her. I am sure this is bringing stress to my animals because they're used to me always being around. This is the only thing I can think of that their routine has been completely broken. I just thought if we can put our information together maybe we could figure things out. Again I hope you get this message because I know this is an old video 💕
Your name looks familiar. I reeeally hope everything worked out alright with your sick grey and the other birds ❤🌻
Stay safe and keep faith! Give Joy the best life and all of your other animals for the rest of their lives!
Wow, what a scary situation! Thank you for sharing even the less than sunny stories, it helps show the full reality of life with these animals.
Thank you this is Gibby I have two blue and gold macaws and Sammy and Gizmo and they wish you all the best
Thank you, Jessi! Sometimes it's hard to know what to do when you have an animal who isn't well. Wishing Joy and all of the birds at Animal Wonders the best and happiest life possible!
My African Grey died from PDD when he was only 5, so my heart goes out to you. I'll be thinking of you guys; at least Joy has the best chance possible given her surroundings and the care and love you give her.
My little love bird has been diagnosed with ABV. Fortunately, i work for an avian vet so I have access to care. I’m so glad awareness about this horrible disease is spreading!
Also ask your avian vet about Onsior injections!
oh no... jessi, i hope joy is alright. you are doing your best to take care of joy and the other parrots. i really hope she will make it through. stay strong, joy, we are all here for you. praying every night for joy! 💝
Thank you for loving and taking great care of our feathered friends. I wish all of you the best of luck and send positive thoughts your way.
Hi I just came across this video today, I'm wondering if any updates or any treatments are now available for PDD, I'm an new bird mom and I just love this channel I've learned so much. Thank you for all that you do, you are awesome
you should defently check out BirdTricks on youtube
Sending all my love to Joy and the other birds in your care, I hope they live a wonderful, happy, healthy life 💛💙
I'm so sorry about Joy, she was one of my favourite birds at animal wonders and it real brings me down see another bird go through this
Oh man, thats terrible! Poor Joy, she had it so rough in her life already 😯 fingers crossed for you, Joy! Youre under the best care possible, and you are such a strong bird, you can beat this illness! 🐦
My bird is my little BFF. It seems like birds are either real healthy or kaput...just like that. So knowing some of the things to watch out for really helps. Thank you for sharing this info with us - heartfelt best wishes for you and Joy and all the other birds.
the cutest thing ever happened to me last night. a random kitty walked up on my driveway meowing like crazy. came right up to me on the pourch. long story short: she loves her new enviroment and she no longer is thirsty, hungry, dirty, or alone. : ]
That's adorable! You're such an amazing person, J Scott!
J Scott Hatcher welcome to slavery... thou hast been chosen.
I'd love to get to see some of those play sessions, especially birds interacting and playing with other birds, even more so if they are different kinds. I don't see it that often and I know people would love it!
I was not a bird person at all. Then a bird/reptile rescue many of my lizards come from got this poor boy. He can not be housed with other birds due to PDD for years. He is a white bellied caique. He has some neuro issues with biting his leg when stressed but other then that is a super happy well fed clown. I've found if he has a "freak out" when I'm holding him if I softly soothe him it passes faster. I am so happy this sweet funny guy is in my life.
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So nice! 👍🌻
Oh gosh Joy! Lots of love!
I wouldn’t test the rest of the flock either, unless you’re bringing in a new bird. But we have both FIV+ cats as well as non. They’re just mostly separated : /. So as carefully as y’all manage your populations and ambassadors I know you would find a way to do it perfectly. Mua!
I thought FIV wasn't contagious.....
armysister125 they can spread it through bites, so rough play can absolutely spread the disease from one pet to another. Beyond that, positive cats have much weaker immune systems so you much watch the spread of illness between your positive and negative cats, as something simple can kill an FIV positive cat.
@@armysister125 How do you think they got it?
Most scary bouts ive encountered PPMV, and CHLAMYDIA
I didnt even thought about PDD...
I have a forever home/rescue in Israel
Wow that must have been so hard to learn, and have to then think about all the flock, not just Joy herself. I've had to make the hard decision to put down my old and very sick cat, who was my baby, but that was 1) compassionate care and 2) a single individual... This doesn't compare and I know that. My heart to all of you for the amount of mental stresses this will cause for the foreseeable future. I'm wondering though, are these diseases transferable to other animals/humans in some form? I know that's a risk for some diseases, while others are strictly mammalian/reptilian/avian only, and I'm curious where these fall in?
I'm a bird nerd and I've never heard of these disease ._.
Thanks for providing this information
Really happy that you are sharing how the animals are doing. Even though this is not great news, thank you for sharing the obstacles that get in your way. I plan to work with animals one day and I love your channel so much.
Thank you Jessica for your wonderful knowledge and sharing it and your beautiful animals with all of us! Please give them all a bit of love from SW South Dakota! 💋💞
Give Joy a little treat for me! It's really difficult to make these decisions, but I know you'll do what's best for the birds.
Sigh, heading to avian vet, my male eclectus 5yr old seems sick, I was worried about PDD, thanks for the vid. 🙏
Hi thank you for rescueing the birds bless your heart for doing that.you have a wonderful evening
Great informative video specially for me ❤🦜
Thankyou for that video it helps me to calm down about the disease
The parrot rescue in a surrounding area further out from us here in MI is run by a dedicated husband & wife team. They are so awesome giving their all to the animal rescue endeavor, and have a couple different rooms for housing different species of birds. This past year their senior/special needs blue & gold macaw and Citron Cockatoo passed away. Even after many years of excellent care, they both ended up dying because the damage to their lungs from previous neglect/abuse from past situations had caught up with them..there was nothing that could be done, it was just their time to go :( they were so loved, and they got to be home with one of them when it passed, so at least they got some closure knowing they did their best with their senior feathered friends. Their birdie bodies were just too worn out. Fly free sweet friends.
This videos is informative and so honest, loved it!
Thank you for doing your research and showing us these recent researches! Another reason why I love this channel ❤️
Anyways, hope all turns out well 🤞🏼
Praying for you and all of your wonderful animals!
Test them all and segment those that have the virus from those that don't. That sounds expensive and wasteful but if you can avoid spreading it to those that don't you might end up saving them from it.
Jessi, I think you should test them. Just so if they were to suddenly all pass away, you wouldn’t be frustrated not knowing why. Also, you can make their lives more fun and make the most of it.
Well that is some tough news, fingers crossed and hoping for a long symptom free life for Joy and the rest of your fine feathered friends.
I’m really glad it’s not a doom sentence for the birds! My budgie died of a sudden illness years ago, literally showing symptoms to gone within a morning. I know how hard it is to lose a bird from their secretive nature,
We are going through the same thing currently. We quarantine, test and see an avian vet and still wound up with an infected bird. We had to put one bird down and are waiting for the necropsy results before we make any decisions on our remaining Birds. Unfortunately most avian diseases are airborne and a bird that is a carrier of the disease can test negative if they are not currently shedding the virus. Which makes testing for the same diseases multiple times over a series of time important. In my research I found a study done on Cockatiels and turkeys infected with a common avian virus. It took a series of tests over 18 months for all infected birds to shed the virus and therfore test positive. The whole experience has been, overwhelming, heartbreaking and has really rocked me to my core. What makes it worse is the lack of consensus amongst veterinarians as to the seriousness of symptom free carrier birds. My biggest concerns are spreading disease to wild birds and captive breeding facilities.
Super informative video! Thank you!
Oh, wow, my heart goes out to everyone at Animal Wonders. I've found myself in a surprisingly similar situation recently. One of our rescue cats recently tested positive for Coronavirus, which, it turns out, is super duper common amongst cats and highly contagious. But, most cats experience it as a couple days of diarrhea and then develop antibodies and it doesn't bother them again. But a small percentage can't kick the virus, so they develop what's called FIP, which is exactly the same strain of the virus, but because they can't kick it out of their system, their body freaks out and eventually dies. Symptoms include lack of coordination, lack of appetite, and several others. There's no cure and not much you can do, other than make sure that your cats have as great a life as they can, for however long they live. I had no idea there was such a similar condition amongst birds. I am completely sure you'll make the best decisions for every bird in your care. I hope they all have long lives, but no matter what, as much as possible, I hope you are able to take comfort in the knowledge that you're giving them amazing experiences, and that their lives are as good as they can be.
Coronavirus? Your cat was seeing into the future.
Aww poor birds 🙁. I’m wishing them all the best ❤️
I just lost my best friend to bornavirus. When he first started acting funny, we took him to the vet and they prescribed him something. I forgot what it was, but it made him feel better for a short while. Up until the day he died in my hands, he always was throwing up since he was around 3 years old. Poor guy. We were trying to get him to the vet to be put down, but I think he wanted to pass with me.. His life was cut short at 4. Scooter was a cockatiel and he was the best pet in the world, but now I have bandit, his son(?)... (offspring) - and thankfully he hasn't showed any symptoms. That was the saddest day of my life. I feel blessed just to have Bandit to remember him by. If you are thinking about getting a bird, you better treat them right. Its a lot of work. They are such intelligent and loving creatures.. When they want to be. Children (8 - 15) are a no go, especially young and lazy kids.
fpv for cats seems to be in the same boat as this, that it's super common, and can have devastating symptoms-- but, my cats that had/have it are doing just fine as long as we take the best care of them that we can! chronic conditions for animals can be scary, but, if you give them the right care like you do, it'll all be okay
Good luck joy and all the other fur babies 🇦🇺❤️🇦🇺❤️🇦🇺❤️
Aimee Lopez ooo u from Australia?
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Very interesting. Boa Constrictors can carry a disease called INCLUSION BODY DISEASE (IBD) that will kill a Royal Python (and other pythons) very quickly. Boas can die from it too sometimes. The only tests for that were after death occurred but there's tests to diagnose now but still no treatment. The symptoms are very similar to PDD in birds (know the PDD symtoms from your video ☺️ thank you) They've discovered that part of the genetic make up of this disease is also found to be part of the genetic make up of the human flu. If i even have a cold i don't handle any of my rescues now. Good to make people aware of these new diseases discovered. Great video, thank you again.
Thank you for this educational video. ❤
Lots of love and wishes of ongoing health for Joy and the whole flock (on top of the ones I'm always wishing for Huckleberry and Blueberry and the rest!) from my rescued feline trio and me!
@AnimalWonders: I really enjoyed your video. Such useful information. I have had my Orange Wing Amazon for 34yrs now & he's never had these issues thank goodness. On RUclips however there seems to be many birds that have the plucking issue of the likes that I've never seen before which I thought was strange. Many of these folks take their birds to vets & yet the plucking issue is never addressed which I think is very strange. It's also strange that many of these people's birds die really young. I have only taken my bird to the vet once for wing clipping. He showed me how to properly clip my bird so that I didn't have to bring him back for that and he hasnt been to a vet since. He's been wonderfully healthy. He was poached and brought into the U.S. and I rescued him. I have bred, raised a lot of birds in my day, many of them wild and you're so right. Birds are very sensitive & susceptible to illness or disease & do die rather quickly from it. Thank you for sharing. I hope other birders see this video.
How's Joy doing now? I hope she is well. Give her my love.
Sending my prayers for your precious babies. 💜
Jeez man...I gotta bird proof my house now... My mom would be heart broken if our sun conure got sick from her scented incense..I should probably test him too because hes a rescue but he's not showing sickly signs...Just to be sure
You're such a thoughtful person!
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I hope all your feathered friends get better
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Well.. that sucks to hear, Jessi =/
I still think beak and feather's disease is worse than PDD, but both are terrible and devastating.
I'd suggest testing for all birds and seeing if you can split them into two groups: carrier/non carrier and maybe house them apart.. possible best outcome? i dont know..
Oh and have a great life joy and the other birds you guys are great and I hope you're safe cuz you guys are amazing Birds, love you guys just the same as much as I love my birds.
i’m literally hyperventilating i hope joy and the other birds will be ok
Wishing all the birds good health ❤️❤️❤️
I hope they'll be fine and live a long, happy, healthy life ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you. For the information.. good to know
I am fans for people who like animals a lot...You are so nice May God bless you.
I give lots of support to your birds! Hopefully there alright... I love seeing videos of chopsticks and many other birds!
I love your videos I am so glad that yall are able to care for so many animals
What we have learned in five years is AMAZING!!!! Nothing like we thought.
thanks for making this video, this was in the foremind when adopting my b/g macaw jack, you made me feel at ease knowing that im not the only one that thinks this way. good luck with the feathered friends.
Oh man, just watched this. Any updates almost two years on?
I recently lost my 39 year old ecelectus. When I fist rescued her, I had no records of her past. I’m now left with a 10-12 year old budgie. Recently I’ve noticed some odd behavior. Before anyone tells me it’s normal, I’m quite aware that it isn’t. As much as budgies regurgitate as sign of affection or courtship, it’s different. The past month she’s been vomiting a thick white substance. She’s always with me, so I’ve seen it happen many times. My local avian vet says it’s normal regurgitation. I’ve never seen a budgie vomit large amounts of a thick white liquid substance. I can’t get her any help. Does anyone have suggestions.
Hi Jessi had a Sun Conure named "Banjo" who was under the care of an avian vet who told us "Banjo" was suffering from a thing called the Wasting disease where he would eat but just pass most of his food out we also had a necropsy performed which agreed. Top bird 5 years old never bit just cuddle till the last 2 weeks when he became very aggressive with no feather or weight loss (the vet explained why he got aggressive ,a natural thing for them to do in the wild) Now have a Green Cheek Conure named "Iba" *Garth*
So great.😍 and informative, your just great to watch.😚
I and my family send our love to your wonderful birds at animal wonders
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I think my 13 year old African Grey may have PDD. Still waiting for the test results. But I’m devastated that it’s possible my two other birds have it as well (my newest bird (had her for a few years)may be asymptomatic and have spread it?) it’s so hard watching his motor skills decline, usual behavior change, and suspect that this may be why he hasn’t been talking much over a few years. But still not being entirely sure why and how to help him
Thanks for the info
I never knew about the virus! I had a healthy, quirky derpy little 2 yo Nanday. For almost a year. And then one week i noticed a drastic weight loss (even though she was eating like crazy and even still playing and stealing food from the other birds). I ignorantly dismissed the weight loss, and gut feeling to get her into a vet, and 4 days later she was gone. She had about 10 seizures that i know of alone before she just collapsed. The ABV had caused a hole to form in her stomach which sent all her food to her chest. :'( i wish i had known then.
thank you for saying that
I hope you get to test all the birds, just to at least have the data! Having the data is the first step. You can work from there.
Much love to all y'all in this difficult time.
I hope they get better! Or at the very least they don't develop the worse of the symptoms. A request I would like is for you to (gently) tap some of the birds on the beak and say "boop"?? It would make my day, and while it may not improve anything other than many peoples' mood, I would still like to see it. Take care and much love from New Zealand!!
Thank you for this Jessi ♥️ your birdy videos always helps me out ♥️
Here I thought PBFD was the biggest and scarriest disease to worry about my cockatiel somehow getting...this one is WAY worse and I'd never even heard of it before. :/ I guess that's just one more thing for this bird momma to worry about. I hope your flock is all well and that everyone stays healthy.
I already mentioned this in another comment, but do not worry about Bornavirus spreading to your other birds. New data indicates it is mostly spread from hen to egg, and not between birds in proximity to one another. Also, there is a treatment for AG (avian ganglioneuritis, previously called PDD), and it involves administering antinflammitories such as oral celebrax twice a day or other mediciations I cannot remember. Like you said, a very large percent of birds already carry ABV and don't show symptoms. That means if you did test all of your other birds, then statistically some of them will have ABV already. However, for asymptomatic birds, there is a high false negative rate for ABV tests so you might not even get definitive results from testing. You can run an AGAA test to determine if they are actively developing the antibodies that cause avian ganglioneuritis, which would be the best way to tell if treatment is needed, but I wouldn't be concerned since developing symptoms is so uncommon. Please take a look at Lafeber's video series featuring Dr. Susan Orosz when you have the time. She is extremely knowledgeable on the most recent information and can tell you a lot about how AG works and how it can be treated. In recent years, the quality and length of life for AG birds has dramatically improved, but you have to make sure you are following recommendations and administering the proper treatment.
This is so scary! I hope they eventually find a cure
My favorite animal here is Chopsticks and I want onejust like him.
My birds send their love 💕 A 24 year old boy cockatiel and 17 year old girl mitred conure
I had a Hahn’s Macaw named Kiwi who died from PDD. I actually lost another bird around the same time. (A cockatiel named Chieko, he was like 20 when he passed) Anyways, Kiwi would have seizures that honestly scared the crap out of me. We had to put him down and I still get sad thinking about him.
My parakeet died two weeks ago and I've been trying to figure out the cause of death without a visit to the vet and I think he may have had PDD. When I got him a year ago he came with a mate and both had bald spots. Both birds were frequently bathed, fed a nutritious diet of pellets, vegetables, fruits, and occasionally seeds. Both birds had bald spots on their wings but I didn't notice and signs of plucking. The female died two months after we got her after being attacked by a cat, but the male lived nearly a year before dying very suddenly. He showed no signs of dehydration or lethargy before dying. He did fall off his perch a few days before passing and couldn't use one of his feet for like 2 hours. A couple of hours before going he was happy and chirping, but his stool was large, black, and had the consistency of jam. I wasn't able to get him to a vet because it was 5 am and nowhere was open. Is it possible he had PDD? If he did, what can I do for the other parakeet who was housed with him?
I can't believe 1 person disliked the video how is that possible
clicking on the dislike button is the only way to get youtube's AI to stop giving you similar video suggestions in the right hand suggestion list. Perhaps the person doesn't have a bird and just wanted talking bird videos.
It's also possible the dislikes are from people who aren't as familiar with RUclips and just wanted to express their sadness. Kinda like saying, "Man, that sucks."
@@d.e.b.b5788 Yeah well I don't dislike videos just because of algorithm reasons, that's kinda rude if you ask me
Hey Jessi I love what you do and I like your shirt thank you for being you 😊
I had 3 birds and they all died within a year because the store we bought them from was selling PDD and ABV ridden birds. My last baby died on thursday. We took such good care of them that they did not have any presenting symptoms, and it was extremely hard for our family. Please please please do your research on bird breeders and make sure to take them to the vet when you get them. We had no idea the bird breeder was behind this and I blamed myself for the longest time until the most recent tragedy.
Sorry for your terrible loss. Better advice: DO NOT BUY FROM BREEDERS!! ADOPT!!
Hi :)) Im a new subscriber. My lovebird has PDD from borna virus, dx’d one year ago as she presented signs of weight loss and neurological problems (unable to walk, control movements). She is still alive and active, doing well tho her poops are small/thin and she is way under weight and has trouble gaining. She is happy and active and seems the same as she always was. I just wanted to alert everyone that there is treatment. My avian vet was knowledgable and helpful with new treatments. I recommend any bird parent to buy a scale to weigh your bird on a regular basis. I purchased mine on amazon for $20. Weight loss may be the first symptom of this awful illness - knowledge of the weight loss and help from an avian vet may save your bird’s life :))
I'm so sorry your little one has PDD. It's such a hard diagnosis. But, I'm glad you have a great avian vet to help. There are a few medications that can help decrease the inflammation, and there's ongoing research for better treatment options and a cure that I hope is found soon. I'm sending all my love to you and your wonderful feathered friend.
this explains why the Petco noted that they tested for that virus on the cards for their Conures. I knew it was a virus they could get, but I didn't know it could be fatal.
I love animals sooo much I want to be like you when I grow up
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