Because it caught on and record labels were scrambling for the Seattle sound.. but they did dig up quite a few amazing song writers, and alot of other great ones got overlooked by mainstream .. I love 7 year bitch and the gits!
Jason Everman’s tour with Nirvana in 1989 is one of the band’s most overlooked yet interesting periods of time, definitely look into the details of that tour if you’re a Nirvana fan
Hey Daniel, I'm subscribed to your channel dude. You have done a great job with it. The quality of your video's are amazing and you're a phenomenal interviewer.
@@jacobj6376 you mean joining the military industrial complex to fight for a governments control of oil and resources and regimen changes? So being brainwashed is the right path? 😂
Archer, Rangers are hardcore dudes, but I’ve always felt that SF is where it’s at because those are the guys who have to be very smart besides being tough. A big part of SF training focuses on language and cultural training because SF are usually the guys making first contact with potential allies on the ground. Plenty of SF guys can do what Rangers do, but I doubt that too many Rangers can do what SF does.
I meet a "special forces" guy once every few months working in hotels, so many Walter Mittys. Glad to see occasionally they actually are what they say they are.
Fun fact: he also was in Mind Funk for their 2nd album, Dropped, from 93. One of my favorite albums. Not nearly the same name recognition, but an awesome stoner rock album.
I think interviews like this are the biggest reason Joe has become such a mega name. He finds incredibly interesting people, well known or not, and has the ability to speak with them in a way that gives the audience a pretty solid insight to their disposition. I had heard of Jason before and thought his story would be interesting to learn about, but never made the effort to do so. Thanks Joe for introducing us to yet another fascinating person.
Toward the end of this interview, he says he didn’t even get paid royalties for playing on material on the Nirvana box set released in 2004. He said he didn’t want the hassle of suing for what he was owed. Great interview!
@scsherman207 yeah. But nobody will think of this guy or no his name in a century from now or a millenia. But they most likely will those band mates 💁♂️ So you can see it however you like. I think being a green beret is badass and love and appreciation our soldiers. But I also understand it's in our DNA as men to want to leave a legacy. And to be fair. You call music trivial? Yet many times that music has MASSIVE impacts felt by millions and saves lives and changes them around or helps with mental strife and struggle. So if that to you is trivial I feel sorry cause it's far from it. It's just like the people who say "it's just a game" when talking about sports. Never considering how many children are saved or avoid horrible life paths or learn amazing traits because of sports. Like self accountability, structure, critical thinking, how to live for something more important then one's self and being apart of a group/community which vastly has a positive impact. And they don't even cover how sports bring together entire communities regardless of differences, races, politics and all that and has everyone rooting for one cause which helps keep communities doing well. So many people never can see the big picture in these things
@Steve Sherman Music is way cooler. Better to have fun than serve political greed. But yeah, drugs and living away from God is not worth it. Without God, even the green berets can't save you.
I was his Drill Sergeant when he was in basic training. I could smoke them physically and he was like hummm ok still here. I talked to him alot because even back than he was very interesting. Different mentality than the others. His views were completely different and that is what was amazing.
Western Washington was a crazy place to grow up. Love this story of climbing high tension power lines! We would jump from the top of Hemlock trees, and ride the limbs down as they bent, but don't break, amazing wood fiber. Lots of Western Washington was near rain forest, little rain micro climates, getting like 80 or 90 inches of rain annually, well away from the real Olympic Rain Forest. When I was 4 or 5, I'd be climbing big maple trees, just hanging onto thick moss, and digging my feet in. These were monster trees, the first limbs being like 30 feet up. Thanks for making me think of the good parts of my childhood!
I will NEVER, EVER, forget the first time I heard "Outshined". I was an instant Soundgarden fan from that moment on. I also cried like a little girl when CC passed because I had a lot of great memories from the 90's while listening to Soundgarden 😢
Yeah.. That’s why he was listed in the credits, as a way to say thanks. A better thank you would’ve been paying him back in full, but still, kinda cool
@@user-ux1vj9vx7s Is he not credited with royalties? I'd be real fuckin bitter if I'd fronted the bill for an album as iconic as Bleach and never recieve a cent off the millions of copies sold lol
I love hearing nirvana stories, it's hard to find new info I haven't already heard but Jason has new stories so that's nice. Thanks for having him on Joe❤
mine is not really much of a story but I saw them on their final Tour before Kurt died. Not a big Venue either which made it all the more special. Stabler Arena @ Lehigh University. The Breeders warmed up for the Nirvana set. one of the coolest concerts I ever attended. in 10th Grade...it was also my 1st.
I can so relate to having my mother kick me out of the house in the morning and not having to return until the street lights came on. I did so much crazy, dangerous stuff-hunting, fishing from one bank of canals in the Everglades while alligators were sunning themselves on the opposite bank.
Alligator 1: See that kid alone across the canal? I hear them free-range kids taste _way_ better. Alligator 2: Sun's feeling too good right now. He's yours. Alligator 1: Nah, feel the same.
Same here. Like Jason said, growing up kinda feral in the country I did a lit of dangerous stuff, and got hurt. I made me tough and independent and smart and had a lot of fun doing it.
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He was actually the reason why I decided to try out to be a green beret. Long story short, just a non select, but I remember reading about his journey when I deployed and that made me wanna try it
18X? I almost went for a rep63. I was hoping for 20th group. I backed out because I was not 110% sure it was for me. That little bit of doubt... Not sure if I made the right decision or not. I just re-read your post. I guess you wouldn't have been in the 18x program since it sounded like you were already in. Did your unit try to guilt trip you as if you were "abandoning" them?
@@Joe_Friday no not 18x, and honestly I was sent unprepared, so the program was supposed to be 6 months before the sfrb sent me from my base to selection. The sent me 3 weeks in, I was like 150 pounds soaking wet, not in amazing shape. I thought I was gonna be a week 1 drop, then I made week 2 and 3. I was honestly really proud of myself because i put a hunger out for something I never knew I could achieve. It's awesome when you find out that there is something deep in you that will push you past what you think you can achieve. I lost a strobe light in week 2, so iut of my class of 350, it was 30 of us left and they chose 15. Because I lost a strobe light I had a gig and that is it. I did have high peer reviews, I asked what got me to a cadre later in the day and he just told me. Was gonna do it again but pulled orders from germany and my body was hurting bad.
I remember reading an article about this dude Jason years ago. So cool to actually see and hear him. His story is impressive yet he seems modest - does not need recognition or validation from anyone despite the exceptional things he's done. Freaking solid man!
It’s kind of funny hearing Jason talk about how Kurt didn’t want to hear other people’s input on the songs. Dave Grohl talks about how he was intimidated to bring the music he eventually released with the Foo Fighters to Kurt in his book. It’s cool to hear more context to that.
@@sterlingarcher74 guy above me beat me to it. He really loved the chorus to Alone + Easy Target and allegedly wanted to change the lyrics and perhaps make it a Nirvana song. I don't blame him for loving that catchy ass chorus. The other song was Exhausted.
Everman is one of a kind. Hardly anyone mentions the he was also in Old Lady Drivers playing bass on the album Lo Flux Tube. A mind melting album to say the very least, lol
If you look into Jason's life a little it seriously seems like he was apart of MKUltra. Maybe he leaves out alot of information because he doesn't remember it. The man played in MINDFUNK as well from 93-94 played big festivals did interviews on Headbangers Ball over in Europe. Why leave all that out
I appreciate you both, Jamie and Joe, for the original food for thought you put out. You guys should have Jello Biafra as a guest. He is really intelligent. Thanks
I can relate to the getting kicked out of the house and told to go play outside then returning later all beat up and covered in dirt because I was "mountain climbing" or "rock climbing" but what I was actually doing was imagining situations and playing in the woods.... I actually had a small base w/ food and stuff on the side of an old cliff trail by the age of 12 and I was just wiring sticks together and making mud blocks I would anchor the sticks into and stuff. No idea what I was doing but I did it for years to where I had a bunch of hideouts all over the mountains around my little town.... I wouldn't change anything about how I was raised because it made me be very independent and self reliant at a young age.
@@RichSmithson - I'm so glad I didn't have cameras as a kid.... I'd probably have a daily fart video or something that would make strange people commenting and ruining my childhood. LoL
@@bilalchiiino3423 - I remember building spike traps or drop traps and having police show up and tell me to destroy them but now I'd probably be arrested.... 😂
The fact that he took a different path from the whole Seattle scene when also Kurt flirted with the idea of joining the army, its gotta be one of the best life decisions ever.
He seems way to laid back to be an Army Ranger, but I’m glad we have guys like him. It must be the Washington accent though because Krist sounds exactly like him.
It's so painful to listen to a guy with an amazing life actively resist telling his story. Does he not recognize how unbelievable it is or does he just think so little of himself that he hates to tell his own story??
One of those people who needs to be asked/prompt or he won’t talk. Which is super annoying for something like going on a podcast. It’s like someone going to a therapist and not wanting to talk to them. It’s like why are you even here if you don’t want to talk through stuff?
@@Leyirs better than Nirvana already was? The Beatles?)) I think good musicians like Kurt and Chris know a good idea when they see it, otherwise this guy would have become a frontman of his own band. That's what good musical ideas usually entail.
@@aliya_punkenglish Foo Fighters was bigger than Nirvana EVER was, and it was formed on ideas the Kurt/Courtney/Company Execs would never entertain. Figureheads like Kurt and Chris were just that, singular figures who didn't want or need to be IN a band, they just needed people to play their music around them and go away. So no surprise they each ended the way they did. And that hurts because I still think Chris Cornell was the best musical talent of our generation.
I like listening to Joe's stuff with scientific, army,or aliens and when this cast started I was oh this guy is like me cannot speak.........ce to be one of the best Joe podcasts I have heard. A pleasure listening to it.
I just picture being in a bar and listening to this guy talking to some girl. "Yeah. I was in a band. Two bands. Nirvana and Soundgarden." Yeah, but you weren't in the military. "Yeah, I was. I was an Army Ranger and a Green Beret." You didn't want to go to college? "Yeah, I went to college. I got a PhD." As soon as the girl went to the bathroom, you would have to say, "You're laying it on kind of thick aren't you there, buddy? You don't want actually want to suffocate her in bullshit."
Chad Channing is from my hometown in Washington State. He was sort of an Urban legend at the time, people would see him around town . I saw him at a diner while having breakfast. I was 18 at the time, 26 now, but I always thought I’d be the kinda person that when they saw a famous person, they’d just let em be. Turns out that was bullshit, I got excited and just had to say hello. I waited for him to be done with his meal and as he and his partner were leaving, I went over and said hi, and told him that I just wanted him to know how amazing the Bleach album was and how I’m such a fan. He was really cool about it, I shook his hand, I didn’t dare ask for an autograph or a photo, and went back to my table. Definitely was an awesome moment that I’ll remember forever.
Grew up as a Latch key kid, outside doing what young kids do. No greater time to be a kid. Two years younger than me and we could write the same story growing up. I was not in a band but did the Navy for 24 yrs. Had found my calling. Now living life one day/adventure at a time.
I saw Soundgarden with Jason on bass in LA in 1990 - they did two nights at two different clubs, and the second night was filmed and used as their Louder Than Love video.
This is really my latest very favorite of Rogans.. this guy is an amazing story teller. I'm about 6 years older than you 2. And man I could relate to all of his stories. Wow. And i also. Live sound garden. And those type bands. I listened to KROQ. In the 1980s.1990s and on. It's an LA area alternative radio station. But I'm so amazed and blown away by this interview. I would love to hear more of this man's stories. Because he did say many times .... " that there is much more to the story.... I mean he brought up a lot. Amazing story teller. And interview
I saw the guy with the frizzy hair on the cover of Bleach as a kid, I heard about who he was a bit later and gave up any hope he would ever say anything, waited for years, and then he did an interview on JRE, I could not believe it.
Nirvana was Cobain’s band, sound garden was Chris’ band!! There is no other side to it, leaving either one because creatively you didn’t see eye2eye with the leads…where else did you think that was going to end!? I know he realizes that these two became, were and still are music gods! Respect
Yeah that was my first thought, i'm not even huge Kurt fan but obviously he isn't gonna entertain your musical ideas he already has a musical plan and identity so unless your an incredibility skilled musician who can see that and add too it your ideas are useless.
This was 1990, they weren't the hugely respected icons they are now, back then. He was just a 20 year old kid who wanted to have creative input into the bands he was in. It's not really that odd to look at it from that perspective.
Jason literally paid for Nirvana's first album to be recorded. Also for those of who know a lot about Nirvana for Jason Everman to just randomly be a guest on one of the biggest podcasts in the World is just so kind of crazy. That dude who was briefly in Nirvana and Soundgarden in late 80's and then became a soldier..... Let's have him on the show
What a humble dude Chris Cornell is probably the greatest voice I've ever heard along with Freedie Mercury of course five octave range! Then there's Kurt's gutteral scream! Nirvana changed my life forever made me learn guitar and I felt such a connection to Cobain from his childhood, artistry and his struggles with addiction Love this story ❤
People want Joe to go into more depth about his time in the bands he was in, and that's fine... but the important thing here isn't that, but rather how a guy like him entered those bands and who he was at that time, and the interview seems perfect, you see him talk and you see a seemingly ordinary guy, who was in the right place and time, the guy has the essence of a musician from that era, a calm and tasiturn guy.
Kurt Cobain and Chris Cornell wrote some of the most iconic music of the 90s and were the driving creative forces in their respective bands, maybe he just wasn't that good. I appreciate it must suck to have been part of both those bands but not part of the success, but it is what it is.
@@MsAppassionata You also have to have no real ego to both want to be a musician and be fine with told to 'shut up and play my songs' all day every day for years. Right, wrong, or indifferent Nirvana wasn't a band, it was Kurt and a changing cast of backup musicians keeping him on stage.
Think this one highlights Joe's ability as an interviewer. Compared to other guests, Joe really had to keep digging and asking questions to get Jason to reveal info. So many times Jason would say something and then just end it - it was down to Joe to get him to open up
Awesome stories. We had the same Kmart that Illinois. It was tan and brown. I think they made a light blue dark blue version too. Loved Johnny Quest as well. Race Bannon, Hodgy, always wanted to see more... But never on at the same time.. Or life never allowed... They were scattered throughout my childhood before age 12. Keep pushing.
My group of musician friends and music loving friends who grew up discovering and loving the Seattle music scene before it became a global thing, would obsess about all stories behind the bands and we’d always wondered about this guy. Jason Everman, who was in two of our favorite bands and then…. Poof!
if you just listen to the audio and know nothing about this man's background, you would swear he's just the most mellow, gentle, kind and a bit of a nerd. To know he could literally HALO into a foreign country, speak their language, recruit the local militia and train them and proceed to overthrow their government is craw-CRAZY!
He reminded me of being a child in Washington state in the late 70s and early 80s. I'd just walk and explore all over Washington state and somehow find my way home at night.
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What a powerful music scene Seattle had in the 90's . so many bands doing well
The last great music generation....
@@bobbertee5945 Great music, but some shitty living. Think of all the idiots that had the world in their hands and died from heroin addiction...
Mark Lanegan
San diego was a powerful scene too in the 90s. Lots of great punk bands from here
Because it caught on and record labels were scrambling for the Seattle sound.. but they did dig up quite a few amazing song writers, and alot of other great ones got overlooked by mainstream .. I love 7 year bitch and the gits!
Jason Everman’s tour with Nirvana in 1989 is one of the band’s most overlooked yet interesting periods of time, definitely look into the details of that tour if you’re a Nirvana fan
Hey Daniel, I'm subscribed to your channel dude. You have done a great job with it. The quality of your video's are amazing and you're a phenomenal interviewer.
@@westcoasthighway379 Hey man I really appreciate that! Means a lot :) Thanks for the support!
I subscribed to your channel yesterday too. Had to check your name when I seen it here.
The early days when they were in the UK is amazing.
I know you ! not personally but through grunge
This guy has lived one hell of a life.
Found the right path in the end
The Chit ain't he?
I hope he believes in Jesus so his afterlife is fulfilled
@@jacobj6376 you mean joining the military industrial complex to fight for a governments control of oil and resources and regimen changes? So being brainwashed is the right path? 😂
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Congrats Joe.. you just got dialed back to Regular Joe status. Went from an awkward interview to one of the best in a long time. Love it
Jason is a very small but real part of Nirvana's story and it's cool to hear him speak about his experience.
One of the few dudes who can say “oh btw I was also a Green Beret too”
@@killdizzle SF is kind of a joke
Archer, Rangers are hardcore dudes, but I’ve always felt that SF is where it’s at because those are the guys who have to be very smart besides being tough. A big part of SF training focuses on language and cultural training because SF are usually the guys making first contact with potential allies on the ground. Plenty of SF guys can do what Rangers do, but I doubt that too many Rangers can do what SF does.
AoNV >
I meet a "special forces" guy once every few months working in hotels, so many Walter Mittys. Glad to see occasionally they actually are what they say they are.
@@famebrightstudio451 here's a tip. Most wouldn't voluntarily give that information, much less to a stranger.
Back then these bands ruled the world and had an incredible impact on my life. Man I miss those days
Nirvana. Soundgarden. Army Ranger. Just downplays it and humble. What a great American story. Respect
It didn’t stop at Ranger. He went full SF
And then an Ivy League degree
He was a green beret as well.
Fun fact: he also was in Mind Funk for their 2nd album, Dropped, from 93. One of my favorite albums. Not nearly the same name recognition, but an awesome stoner rock album.
I was stoked to see Jason made it onto Rogan. This guy would have a million stories to tell from the Nirvana and Soundgarden days, fascinating stuff.
I think interviews like this are the biggest reason Joe has become such a mega name. He finds incredibly interesting people, well known or not, and has the ability to speak with them in a way that gives the audience a pretty solid insight to their disposition. I had heard of Jason before and thought his story would be interesting to learn about, but never made the effort to do so. Thanks Joe for introducing us to yet another fascinating person.
100% agree
What I enjoy is FAKE THUMBS UP AND BULLSHITT COMMENTS
this comment is 10000% true dude
I agree with the two comments above. You said exactly what I was thinking 👍🏼👍🏼
It’s weird tho if you watch the episode all Joe does was ask “so what happened next” it was kind of annoying he usually has more to add
Not just a soldier, a freakin RANGER!! Thank you for your service!
And a Green Beret…. If only he’d started younger, he’d have gone CAG, no doubt…
@@scsherman207ypu dont know any CAG guys stop the cap
This was a phenomenal interview. Genuine dude
Goes from being in Nirvana, Soundgarden to Military to being a Green Beret that’s a Badass Life
Not to mention a stint as a Ranger in the 2/75th Ranger Regiment.
Toward the end of this interview, he says he didn’t even get paid royalties for playing on material on the Nirvana box set released in 2004. He said he didn’t want the hassle of suing for what he was owed. Great interview!
You can tell that those days really broke his heart.
Imagine being in 2 of the world's biggest bands and leaving before the ultimately became mega famous
@scsherman207 yeah. But nobody will think of this guy or no his name in a century from now or a millenia. But they most likely will those band mates 💁♂️
So you can see it however you like. I think being a green beret is badass and love and appreciation our soldiers. But I also understand it's in our DNA as men to want to leave a legacy.
And to be fair. You call music trivial? Yet many times that music has MASSIVE impacts felt by millions and saves lives and changes them around or helps with mental strife and struggle. So if that to you is trivial I feel sorry cause it's far from it. It's just like the people who say "it's just a game" when talking about sports. Never considering how many children are saved or avoid horrible life paths or learn amazing traits because of sports. Like self accountability, structure, critical thinking, how to live for something more important then one's self and being apart of a group/community which vastly has a positive impact.
And they don't even cover how sports bring together entire communities regardless of differences, races, politics and all that and has everyone rooting for one cause which helps keep communities doing well.
So many people never can see the big picture in these things
@Steve Sherman Music is way cooler. Better to have fun than serve political greed. But yeah, drugs and living away from God is not worth it. Without God, even the green berets can't save you.
@@Ki11Th3mA11Kid soundgarden was already pretty big then but not like superunknown big but still big
@Steve Sherman Yeah imagine dedicating your life to art and having fun versus being a piece of meat used by the government to kill people
I was his Drill Sergeant when he was in basic training. I could smoke them physically and he was like hummm ok still here. I talked to him alot because even back than he was very interesting. Different mentality than the others. His views were completely different and that is what was amazing.
Sure dude. 😂
@@elcid6301 I know, right. Lol
@@elcid6301 lol
I've been waiting for Everman to get on ANY podcast forever
Western Washington was a crazy place to grow up. Love this story of climbing high tension power lines! We would jump from the top of Hemlock trees, and ride the limbs down as they bent, but don't break, amazing wood fiber. Lots of Western Washington was near rain forest, little rain micro climates, getting like 80 or 90 inches of rain annually, well away from the real Olympic Rain Forest. When I was 4 or 5, I'd be climbing big maple trees, just hanging onto thick moss, and digging my feet in. These were monster trees, the first limbs being like 30 feet up. Thanks for making me think of the good parts of my childhood!
I'm 34, the Johnny Quest part invoked a deep memory of the show I haven't thought of in almost 30 years lol. It is a great show.
I will NEVER, EVER, forget the first time I heard "Outshined". I was an instant Soundgarden fan from that moment on. I also cried like a little girl when CC passed because I had a lot of great memories from the 90's while listening to Soundgarden 😢
What a gift his voice & intensity were to us
Another fun fact, Jason Everman paid for the studio time to record Bleach .
Also, he's on the album cover but he doesn't actually play anywhere on the album.
Yeah.. That’s why he was listed in the credits, as a way to say thanks. A better thank you would’ve been paying him back in full, but still, kinda cool
@@user-ux1vj9vx7s I'd much rather be mentioned on Bleach than to be paid back $606.17 😶
@@user-ux1vj9vx7s Is he not credited with royalties? I'd be real fuckin bitter if I'd fronted the bill for an album as iconic as Bleach and never recieve a cent off the millions of copies sold lol
I love hearing nirvana stories, it's hard to find new info I haven't already heard but Jason has new stories so that's nice. Thanks for having him on Joe❤
mine is not really much of a story but I saw them on their final Tour before Kurt died. Not a big Venue either which made it all the more special. Stabler Arena @ Lehigh University. The Breeders warmed up for the Nirvana set. one of the coolest concerts I ever attended. in 10th Grade...it was also my 1st.
@@Original-Juice that's awesome, I never got to see them sadly but I'm always a fan and I cover alot of nirvana songs
@@Original-Juice saw them at a small venue also in '93. William and Mary Hall in Va. Breeders opened for them.
I can so relate to having my mother kick me out of the house in the morning and not having to return until the street lights came on. I did so much crazy, dangerous stuff-hunting, fishing from one bank of canals in the Everglades while alligators were sunning themselves on the opposite bank.
Alligator 1: See that kid alone across the canal? I hear them free-range kids taste _way_ better.
Alligator 2: Sun's feeling too good right now. He's yours.
Alligator 1: Nah, feel the same.
Same here. Like Jason said, growing up kinda feral in the country I did a lit of dangerous stuff, and got hurt. I made me tough and independent and smart and had a lot of fun doing it.
"Genetically engineered rockstar"
That is a good description of Chris.
Could Joe and Jaime PLEASE put a VR camera in one of the seats so that we can "sit" with every guest thru our VR headsets!? Please like this comment so that Jaime and Joe can see it!!!
What a transition, rock star to a bad ass soldier. And he’s got a really chill vibe that I dig. Glad I heard your story!
The pace of this conversation is brutal.
He was actually the reason why I decided to try out to be a green beret. Long story short, just a non select, but I remember reading about his journey when I deployed and that made me wanna try it
Respect
18X? I almost went for a rep63. I was hoping for 20th group. I backed out because I was not 110% sure it was for me. That little bit of doubt... Not sure if I made the right decision or not. I just re-read your post. I guess you wouldn't have been in the 18x program since it sounded like you were already in. Did your unit try to guilt trip you as if you were "abandoning" them?
respect for sending it
You bitched out🤣 I get it brother! I did my ranger training in FT Benning and came damn near to bitching out.
@@Joe_Friday no not 18x, and honestly I was sent unprepared, so the program was supposed to be 6 months before the sfrb sent me from my base to selection. The sent me 3 weeks in, I was like 150 pounds soaking wet, not in amazing shape. I thought I was gonna be a week 1 drop, then I made week 2 and 3. I was honestly really proud of myself because i put a hunger out for something I never knew I could achieve. It's awesome when you find out that there is something deep in you that will push you past what you think you can achieve. I lost a strobe light in week 2, so iut of my class of 350, it was 30 of us left and they chose 15. Because I lost a strobe light I had a gig and that is it. I did have high peer reviews, I asked what got me to a cadre later in the day and he just told me. Was gonna do it again but pulled orders from germany and my body was hurting bad.
He’s being reserved out of respect. I really appreciate that.
Fascinating, thanks for this. As a Soundgarden fan, brilliant to hear how much he liked them too.
I discovered Jason Everman years ago and even tried to do a little research on him but only found one interview he did. Thank you Joe!
I remember reading an article about this dude Jason years ago. So cool to actually see and hear him. His story is impressive yet he seems modest - does not need recognition or validation from anyone despite the exceptional things he's done. Freaking solid man!
saw him live with Soundgarden on the Louder than Love tour. His picture is on the CD but I think Hiro played on the album.
Yeah, he toured with them from 1989-1990, but never played on an album.
Hiro is pictured on the cover. Jason was in the press photos and videos for the album.
This guy's life is so much cooler and more amazing than any of the band life he could have kept having. Incredible.
Subjective
Why?
Idk being a rockstar is pretty cool
I would LOVE to see Krist Novoselic on JRE!!
I’m so glad he finally made it on . He’s a legend
glad to see Joe was inspired by my story I did on the guy a few years ago.
Soundgarden is fucking amazing music
'To be a man you must be a warrior, a musician and a guest on JRE' - someone probably, circa a while ago
Speed Racer and Johnny Quest - wow! That is such a memory.
This guy has experienced so much. So great.
Also his mom sounds awesome!
It’s kind of funny hearing Jason talk about how Kurt didn’t want to hear other people’s input on the songs. Dave Grohl talks about how he was intimidated to bring the music he eventually released with the Foo Fighters to Kurt in his book. It’s cool to hear more context to that.
Kurt actually really liked 2 Foo Fighters songs.
@@headcreeps2138 Really? Which two?
Dave got Scentless Apprentice & Marigold thru and Kurt liked Alone + Easy Target and Exhausted. Not too shabby!
@@sterlingarcher74 guy above me beat me to it. He really loved the chorus to Alone + Easy Target and allegedly wanted to change the lyrics and perhaps make it a Nirvana song. I don't blame him for loving that catchy ass chorus. The other song was Exhausted.
Kurt seemed like a very insecure dude.
This dude is very modest with his story and words. Hes lived the life of an old man but hes being very humble, not speaking about much. Respect.
Everman is one of a kind. Hardly anyone mentions the he was also in Old Lady Drivers playing bass on the album Lo Flux Tube. A mind melting album to say the very least, lol
If you look into Jason's life a little it seriously seems like he was apart of MKUltra. Maybe he leaves out alot of information because he doesn't remember it. The man played in MINDFUNK as well from 93-94 played big festivals did interviews on Headbangers Ball over in Europe. Why leave all that out
I appreciate you both, Jamie and Joe, for the original food for thought you put out. You guys should have Jello Biafra as a guest. He is really intelligent. Thanks
I’ve been saying this for years
I don't think Jello would talk to Joe. I think he'd consider Joe too far right to talk to.
Jello Biafra would never in a million years go near Rogan or Texas for that matter
Lol. This guy is full on cult brainwashed now, he loves authority, how punk.
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I can relate to the getting kicked out of the house and told to go play outside then returning later all beat up and covered in dirt because I was "mountain climbing" or "rock climbing" but what I was actually doing was imagining situations and playing in the woods.... I actually had a small base w/ food and stuff on the side of an old cliff trail by the age of 12 and I was just wiring sticks together and making mud blocks I would anchor the sticks into and stuff. No idea what I was doing but I did it for years to where I had a bunch of hideouts all over the mountains around my little town.... I wouldn't change anything about how I was raised because it made me be very independent and self reliant at a young age.
Dude cool
Story
And now kids are on tiktok going crazy. Strange times aye.
same , and even build traps , some were borderline criminal :D
@@RichSmithson - I'm so glad I didn't have cameras as a kid.... I'd probably have a daily fart video or something that would make strange people commenting and ruining my childhood. LoL
@@bilalchiiino3423 - I remember building spike traps or drop traps and having police show up and tell me to destroy them but now I'd probably be arrested.... 😂
The fact that he took a different path from the whole Seattle scene when also Kurt flirted with the idea of joining the army, its gotta be one of the best life decisions ever.
He seems way to laid back to be an Army Ranger, but I’m glad we have guys like him. It must be the Washington accent though because Krist sounds exactly like him.
What an amazing journey…. So many experiences and truthful lessons… much respect 💯
It's so painful to listen to a guy with an amazing life actively resist telling his story. Does he not recognize how unbelievable it is or does he just think so little of himself that he hates to tell his own story??
One of those people who needs to be asked/prompt or he won’t talk. Which is super annoying for something like going on a podcast. It’s like someone going to a therapist and not wanting to talk to them. It’s like why are you even here if you don’t want to talk through stuff?
Thank you for your service
An hard listen/watch at times but real nice to have a break from the constant covid, government etc talk, felt like old school joe.
You can't blame Kurt or Chris not taking this guys material, they were lyrical and song geniuses for god sake.
I wonder how much better they could’ve been if they were open to creative inpute outside of EGO / Conceitedness
You can blame Kurt and Chris because they preferred Heroin and Democrat Policies over not taking him seriously
True Paul and John didn’t wants George’s material. Imagine having to jockey for creative input with those guys .
@@Leyirs better than Nirvana already was? The Beatles?)) I think good musicians like Kurt and Chris know a good idea when they see it, otherwise this guy would have become a frontman of his own band. That's what good musical ideas usually entail.
@@aliya_punkenglish Foo Fighters was bigger than Nirvana EVER was, and it was formed on ideas the Kurt/Courtney/Company Execs would never entertain. Figureheads like Kurt and Chris were just that, singular figures who didn't want or need to be IN a band, they just needed people to play their music around them and go away. So no surprise they each ended the way they did. And that hurts because I still think Chris Cornell was the best musical talent of our generation.
Nirvana was catchy (and cool at the time - a gateway to metal), but soundgarden was next level beyond them, go listen to "limo wreck" by them
I like listening to Joe's stuff with scientific, army,or aliens and when this cast started I was oh this guy is like me cannot speak.........ce to be one of the best Joe podcasts I have heard. A pleasure listening to it.
I just picture being in a bar and listening to this guy talking to some girl. "Yeah. I was in a band. Two bands. Nirvana and Soundgarden." Yeah, but you weren't in the military. "Yeah, I was. I was an Army Ranger and a Green Beret." You didn't want to go to college? "Yeah, I went to college. I got a PhD." As soon as the girl went to the bathroom, you would have to say, "You're laying it on kind of thick aren't you there, buddy? You don't want actually want to suffocate her in bullshit."
Soundgarden for life!!!!
I love Chris cornell
I read Nirvana's book in 1995. Listening to this dude's story almost 30 years later is crazy.
Wow, both Soundgarden and Nirvana. This dude is awesome 😮
One of the most interesting dudes around. PNW badass
How awesome. I admire people with that mentality and talent
Chad Channing is from my hometown in Washington State. He was sort of an Urban legend at the time, people would see him around town .
I saw him at a diner while having breakfast. I was 18 at the time, 26 now, but I always thought I’d be the kinda person that when they saw a famous person, they’d just let em be.
Turns out that was bullshit, I got excited and just had to say hello. I waited for him to be done with his meal and as he and his partner were leaving, I went over and said hi, and told him that I just wanted him to know how amazing the Bleach album was and how I’m such a fan.
He was really cool about it, I shook his hand, I didn’t dare ask for an autograph or a photo, and went back to my table.
Definitely was an awesome moment that I’ll remember forever.
Thank God he didn't get killed by his own people like Pat Tilman.
to say we grew up different than kids nowadays is an understatement lol
12:30 This is the most Gen X childhood story I've ever heard. "Just be back at camp when the streetlights come on."
Grew up as a Latch key kid, outside doing what young kids do. No greater time to be a kid. Two years younger than me and we could write the same story growing up. I was not in a band but did the Navy for 24 yrs. Had found my calling. Now living life one day/adventure at a time.
I found this interview to be so profound. Thank you to Jason for reminding us all that fame and fortune wouldn’t necessarily equal happiness. ❤
This is strangely enough my favorite episode of the Joe Rogan Experience
He's definitely from Seattle. Casual, melow, gentle, easy going.
Smells like teen spirit!!! Shoutout from michoacan Mexico 🇲🇽 🔥🥷
Saludos de California, puro apatzingan
I saw Soundgarden with Jason on bass in LA in 1990 - they did two nights at two different clubs, and the second night was filmed and used as their Louder Than Love video.
He's going through real life like a Skyrim character.
This is really my latest very favorite of Rogans.. this guy is an amazing story teller. I'm about 6 years older than you 2. And man I could relate to all of his stories. Wow. And i also. Live sound garden. And those type bands. I listened to KROQ. In the 1980s.1990s and on. It's an LA area alternative radio station. But I'm so amazed and blown away by this interview. I would love to hear more of this man's stories. Because he did say many times .... " that there is much more to the story.... I mean he brought up a lot. Amazing story teller. And interview
I saw the guy with the frizzy hair on the cover of Bleach as a kid, I heard about who he was a bit later and gave up any hope he would ever say anything, waited for years, and then he did an interview on JRE, I could not believe it.
Nirvana was Cobain’s band, sound garden was Chris’ band!! There is no other side to it, leaving either one because creatively you didn’t see eye2eye with the leads…where else did you think that was going to end!?
I know he realizes that these two became, were and still are music gods! Respect
Yeah that was my first thought, i'm not even huge Kurt fan but obviously he isn't gonna entertain your musical ideas he already has a musical plan and identity so unless your an incredibility skilled musician who can see that and add too it your ideas are useless.
This was 1990, they weren't the hugely respected icons they are now, back then. He was just a 20 year old kid who wanted to have creative input into the bands he was in. It's not really that odd to look at it from that perspective.
That's pretty common people want their input even in writing lyrics its broken up many bands
Wonder how he dealt with addiction, from rock and roll, into military, seems he has kept his head straight!!!!
Jason literally paid for Nirvana's first album to be recorded. Also for those of who know a lot about Nirvana for Jason Everman to just randomly be a guest on one of the biggest podcasts in the World is just so kind of crazy.
That dude who was briefly in Nirvana and Soundgarden in late 80's and then became a soldier..... Let's have him on the show
90’s Seattle was vibrant and it was a great place to live, the decline is amazing. Now you can smell the necrosis from miles away.
You can hear the genuineness in his voice.
What a humble dude Chris Cornell is probably the greatest voice I've ever heard along with Freedie Mercury of course five octave range! Then there's Kurt's gutteral scream! Nirvana changed my life forever made me learn guitar and I felt such a connection to Cobain from his childhood, artistry and his struggles with addiction
Love this story ❤
I Think.. All that was talked about is Super Impressive Rock Ranger! Thanks Joe & Crew!!
judging by the end results both Kurt and Chris were probably right not taking in his ideas 😂
But they’re both dead now 🤔
People want Joe to go into more depth about his time in the bands he was in, and that's fine... but the important thing here isn't that, but rather how a guy like him entered those bands and who he was at that time, and the interview seems perfect, you see him talk and you see a seemingly ordinary guy, who was in the right place and time, the guy has the essence of a musician from that era, a calm and tasiturn guy.
Oh Metzgers Maps ofcourse. I love how he dropped that name like everyone listening would know it.
I didn't know he was also a member of OLD, incredible!
Johnny Quest was a fantastic show! Wasn’t expecting Jason Everman to point that out :)
Kurt Cobain and Chris Cornell wrote some of the most iconic music of the 90s and were the driving creative forces in their respective bands, maybe he just wasn't that good. I appreciate it must suck to have been part of both those bands but not part of the success, but it is what it is.
He doesn’t sound like he loved being a musician enough. You have to really love doing that in order to succeed.
@@MsAppassionata You also have to have no real ego to both want to be a musician and be fine with told to 'shut up and play my songs' all day every day for years. Right, wrong, or indifferent Nirvana wasn't a band, it was Kurt and a changing cast of backup musicians keeping him on stage.
Think this one highlights Joe's ability as an interviewer. Compared to other guests, Joe really had to keep digging and asking questions to get Jason to reveal info. So many times Jason would say something and then just end it - it was down to Joe to get him to open up
Awesome stories. We had the same Kmart that Illinois. It was tan and brown. I think they made a light blue dark blue version too. Loved Johnny Quest as well. Race Bannon, Hodgy, always wanted to see more... But never on at the same time.. Or life never allowed... They were scattered throughout my childhood before age 12.
Keep pushing.
Thanks for your service, Jason Everman.
I grew up with Ben Shepard from Sound Garden. He was a good and humble kid and got along with everybody.
What a trip. I too was at Fort Bragg when the towers were hit. Drawing my M240 from the the arms room. Salute brother
Punctuated equilibrium. Great phrase
My group of musician friends and music loving friends who grew up discovering and loving the Seattle music scene before it became a global thing, would obsess about all stories behind the bands and we’d always wondered about this guy. Jason Everman, who was in two of our favorite bands and then…. Poof!
if you just listen to the audio and know nothing about this man's background, you would swear he's just the most mellow, gentle, kind and a bit of a nerd. To know he could literally HALO into a foreign country, speak their language, recruit the local militia and train them and proceed to overthrow their government is craw-CRAZY!
This was the hardest interview to watch ever
He reminded me of being a child in Washington state in the late 70s and early 80s. I'd just walk and explore all over Washington state and somehow find my way home at night.
born raised in Tacoma WA he right I'm 45 it was crazy I almost went in army
Jason Everman played on one of my most favorite albums of all time, a true grunge masterpiece: *Dropped by Mindfunk*