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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @rodrolliv
    @rodrolliv 4 года назад +172

    "The repair involved a lot of cursing and hitting the thing"
    Relatable content

    • @mathieuleader8601
      @mathieuleader8601 4 года назад +3

      Rolled up newspaper work like a charm

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      @TommyDeonauthsArchives 4 года назад +5

      You... have no idea how much I relate...

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  • @peppermintspacecapsule9898
    @peppermintspacecapsule9898 4 года назад +51

    Before Betamax bottomed-out never to return, my parents took my brothers and I to buy our first ever video machine. The shop assistant told us that Betamax was a system based on the same technological principles as the video production equipment used by television networks, BetaCam & BetaCam-L, and was therefore much better than VHS and would definitely outlast VHS in the long run. We bought a Betamax and the picture quality was indeed very impressive..., but within a few years we couldn't find ANY Betamax tapes ANYWHERE. D'oh!!!
    It could've been worse though; my highschool was still using V2000 tapes and recorders in the mid-1990s! Those were some crazy big-@$$ cassettes!
    Another fascinating video, Phelan. Well done! 😀

  • @DurradonXylles
    @DurradonXylles 4 года назад +61

    As a minor A/V geek, I'm glad to see you do an episode on an obscure cam and tape format like Betacam. I'm also glad to see your personal experiences with it. I would not mind seeing you do more videos on formats like this in the future.

  • @covcova
    @covcova 4 года назад +19

    The fact that I enjoyed you talk about an obscure video format proves I can listen to you talk about anything

  • @SsnakeBite
    @SsnakeBite 4 года назад +20

    Clearly the 666 tape was for the Turtles Fighters Coming Out of Their Gateway to Hell Tour.

  • @gerbilsmith
    @gerbilsmith 4 года назад +25

    years ago when I was in elementary school I remember seeing these very large video cassettes being used to record School functions like musicals and plays that we did. To my memory it was called beta. then years later when I first saw my first betamax tape I was like no that's not it because that's too small.
    So for years I wondered what this extra large tape was. I like watching old Tech channels on RUclipsand 4 years had hoped I would find a video on the format I remembered but so far I had not been able to find one talkin of a cassette that fit my memory.
    Ironically here today I watch your video and that clearly is the videotape I and bonus it is a betta just not the beta most people knew LOL!
    so thanks to you sir for finally vindicating my memory improving that I'm not misremembering my past

  • @kabelsalad8380
    @kabelsalad8380 4 года назад +22

    Apparently, operating the machines at the time would also involve a lot of cursing and percussive maintenance. According to a lecturer who used to shoot for the news in the 1980s (and still keeps the camera at the front of the room) Betacam equipment was an absolute nightmare in humid environments because the tape would immediately start sticking to the drum, which became a major problem if you had to shoot next to a body of water on a hot day. The successor formats, DVCAM and HDCAM, were presumably easier to handle because the industry didn't fully switch to file-based delivery until the 2011 Tsunami damaged the factories producing the tape.

    • @LadyCoyKoi
      @LadyCoyKoi 4 года назад +5

      That is why Beta never even made it in South Florida stores. We had VHS right from the start. O_O Never seen Beta of anything.

    • @BloodrealmX
      @BloodrealmX 4 года назад +4

      And here we have poor Phelan living in the maritimes.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 4 года назад +46

    I would like to see Phelous and Brutalmoose do a crossover given their hobbies for tapes

    • @morningblue84
      @morningblue84 4 года назад

      Or Oddity Archive for me.

    • @Dreadjaws
      @Dreadjaws 4 года назад

      Also, Phelous can now join RLM's VCR repair shop.

  • @MinimalistTheatre333
    @MinimalistTheatre333 4 года назад +10

    You are a very underrated reviewer, Phelous. I look forward to every upload of yours.

  • @Uncle-Jay
    @Uncle-Jay 4 года назад +6

    The blinking clock would be nostalgic, but all of my kitchen appliances and my car radio all still do that.

  • @yungstalin420
    @yungstalin420 4 года назад +11

    1:15 funny enough I met hogan about a month after that post at New York Comic Con. I was wearing a Ninja Turtles shirt when I met him and he asked me if I saw the Bay movie at that time and I hadn’t yet and told him. He told me in his words “it’s bad to the bone brother.” To this day I still don’t know if he meant it was rad or if it was shit

  • @Oliver4everismine
    @Oliver4everismine 4 года назад +13

    I appreciate all the time and effort you put into this! :3

  • @altebander2767
    @altebander2767 4 года назад +7

    Actually the chroma problem might be a clogged head. The big advantage of Betacam in its variations was that it was dirt cheap, with VCRs being available for as little as you'd pay for a car. The big problem was that, unless you had a special component studio, the quality was much poorer than on normal full band VTRs like Type-C ones.
    However as they were so cheap, people started to build Component studios around them. In SECAM countries a Component studio is even somewhat simpler for the same capabilities so it took of really fast there.

  • @XxStarlightshyxX
    @XxStarlightshyxX 4 года назад +10

    I love how when Phelous shows the inside of the machine and trying to fix it, you can hear him slowly losing his mind.

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows 4 года назад +40

    "Oh no... Beta!"
    There, i did it.
    Now to watch the video.

  • @renamon5658
    @renamon5658 4 года назад +17

    A evil turtle tape.... You have got my attention dude

    • @LadyCoyKoi
      @LadyCoyKoi 4 года назад +5

      Far more superior than the NEW WAY turtles.

  • @PikminandOatchi
    @PikminandOatchi 4 года назад +58

    Cursing and hitting the thing. Never fails.

  • @KorenLesthe
    @KorenLesthe 4 года назад +5

    “Phelous, oh Phelous ! Bring back BetaCam footage ! »

  • @SHINOBI-03
    @SHINOBI-03 4 года назад +10

    Ah, the days of fixing my VHS tapes. They were so fun.

  • @minespatch
    @minespatch 4 года назад +8

    I recognize the art from that Cubix image. It's from Netherlands artist Heironymous Bosch. His representation of Bee keepers.

  • @stevegeorge6880
    @stevegeorge6880 4 года назад +17

    You should release the BetaCam of your high school commercials along with Mortal Komedy on a VHS box set. There is a market within your audience for this.

    • @ESophora
      @ESophora 4 года назад +6

      I would definitely buy a VHS box set of Mortal Komedy. But then I would probably buy a box set of Phelous’s entire channel.

    • @gracekim1998
      @gracekim1998 2 года назад +1

      🤩yes

    • @gracekim1998
      @gracekim1998 2 года назад +1

      Steve um he said College😅

  • @alexkeathley1512
    @alexkeathley1512 4 года назад +8

    The crazy thing is beta cam is still used in the local TV to this day in the US

  • @Gameboy3DS
    @Gameboy3DS 4 года назад +3

    This was very interesting to learn about; thanks for going through all the trouble, Phelan.
    But oh man, I felt your pain having to deal with the troubleshooting on that thing.

  • @MachoMike
    @MachoMike 4 года назад +4

    Great video Phelous! Very informative. Btw, many professionals have cursed and hit the machine in efforts to fix it. It's called "percussive engineering".

  • @c-puff
    @c-puff 4 года назад +18

    I honestly love these videos on outdated formats. Even when you're grumbling and swearing at them there's something satisfying about seeing these chunky things in action. I'd be up for any more you want to do in future!
    There was another reason I wanted to comment tho but I forgot now... Oh right! Haunted Beta player. Better break out the red tape again!

  • @burmiester1
    @burmiester1 4 года назад +4

    Always love seeing more of these technically oriented videos, Phelan. Keep up the good work!

  • @JomasterTheSecond
    @JomasterTheSecond 4 года назад +3

    Getting Down in Town by the Ninga Turtles is my favourite concert ever.

  • @PlanetZoidstar
    @PlanetZoidstar 4 года назад +20

    8:55 - There's your mistake, Phelous. You were running the Golden Films version of Beauty And The Beast. It's completely useless, even when bone dry.

    • @phelous
      @phelous  4 года назад +16

      It's the Ruby Spears version.

    • @rassilontdavros3004
      @rassilontdavros3004 4 года назад +2

      @@phelous ...ruh roh.

    • @Gilby1385
      @Gilby1385 4 года назад

      @@phelous Wonder if you'll do that first, or the Golden Book Video version.

  • @Morbos1000
    @Morbos1000 4 года назад +29

    That thing reminds me of an old VCR I used to have. It would just randomly decide to try and eat tapes. Good times.

    • @KhayJayArt
      @KhayJayArt 4 года назад +6

      Ah yes. VCRs were assholes.

    • @UJEvans
      @UJEvans 4 года назад +6

      A year or two ago, I was given the task of transferring one of my parents' old home movies to DVD.
      Guess what the vcr decided to do.

    • @thomasjenkins7506
      @thomasjenkins7506 4 года назад +4

      i mean, i've had DVD players ruin discs, too. PS2's were notorious for it.

    • @Grey_Warden_Invasion
      @Grey_Warden_Invasion 4 года назад +3

      Maybe it was just hungry. Should have given it a Snickers.

    • @rassilontdavros3004
      @rassilontdavros3004 4 года назад +3

      @@UJEvans Hope you managed to salvage some of it. :(

  • @ZC-Infinity
    @ZC-Infinity 4 года назад +3

    Buying rare and obscure media formats and players just to get a couple more seconds of TMNT/Ghostbusters footage.
    One day, I hope to reach the determination level of the Phelous.

  • @SirenChats
    @SirenChats 4 года назад +22

    Dude, you gave me Vietnam flashbacks by showing “Getting Down in Your Town”. Don’t do that again, please.

    • @phelous
      @phelous  4 года назад +28

      I'm afraid I will be.

    • @gracekim1998
      @gracekim1998 2 года назад

      😁oooo! this shall be fun

  • @MissAshley42
    @MissAshley42 4 года назад +6

    When you pulled that tape out, I felt that. Oof!

  • @MermaidAyumi
    @MermaidAyumi 4 года назад +5

    I’ll call the J-10 the ”GTE Hercules”, as it behaves like it’s perfect and has godlike strength when trying to get your tapes back.

  • @LixiaWinter
    @LixiaWinter 4 года назад +3

    I love how the dudes are gently touching Phelan with tippytoes and sightly tap him with a chair. As real as wrestling itself

  • @jackmcslay
    @jackmcslay 4 года назад +2

    I would have never thought Phelous would beat Techmoan in being the first to make a video about an obscure video format

  • @HORRIOR1
    @HORRIOR1 4 года назад +5

    I was born in the 90s and I didn't learn about Beta until I started marathoning Married with Children two years ago.

  • @drewhertel2462
    @drewhertel2462 4 года назад +4

    Phelous' new series.... " Beta cassette repair zones".... lol really does bring back nostalgia for yelling & fiddling with my old cassette my old cassette players

  • @TsukiCondor
    @TsukiCondor 4 года назад +7

    You and collecting obscure Ninja Turtle stuff never stops to please me 👍

  • @SilentPrayerCG
    @SilentPrayerCG 4 года назад +4

    It's amazing that even if tapes is seemingly imperfect storage medium, it's still apparently used to backing up large amount of data, in present time.

  • @lukehewko260
    @lukehewko260 4 года назад +4

    Wow that audio difference is CRAZY

  • @bennysizzle79
    @bennysizzle79 4 года назад +2

    Funny and I learned something! My dad had a Beta back in the day but not one of these. My dad also had a Ford Pinto with an 8 track player in it.
    He was a man of tastes that become instantly antiquated.
    Tis a curse that lives on.

  • @heavenlyderpfowl1180
    @heavenlyderpfowl1180 4 года назад +22

    I love how the turtles walk like jojo's caracters.

  • @CthulhuianBunny
    @CthulhuianBunny 4 года назад +13

    I want to know more about that "Gettin' Down in Your Town" cover. Does anyone know what that art is from? It looks like a medieval setting, but the faceless people make me think of post-WWII surrealists, and the depth of the color on the lines makes me think it's from a woodblock piece.

    • @minespatch
      @minespatch 4 года назад +1

      It's by Heironymous Bosch.

  • @eddihurta7173
    @eddihurta7173 4 года назад +4

    Haunted tapes, and galvanized toys...The best kind of party !

  • @morningblue84
    @morningblue84 4 года назад +2

    So that's why it took so long to see the footage from the Ninja Turtles concerts in a video when you hinted at them last year.
    It's also surprising to hear a censor bleep in one of your videos.

  • @otakon17
    @otakon17 4 года назад +4

    I gotta admit, the BetaCam format was surprisingly high quality.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 4 года назад +1

      No shit, the tape is massive! Almost U-Matic sized.

    • @rassilontdavros3004
      @rassilontdavros3004 4 года назад +1

      Even knowing that it was a production format and was gonna be pretty damn high quality, I was still impressed. Especially with the audio quality, like holy cow.

  • @renamon5658
    @renamon5658 4 года назад +4

    The best way to fix things and get them to work hit it.... It worked for joe Baker in re7

  • @toxics.
    @toxics. 4 года назад +10

    This isnt why I subscribed...
    This is why I stay subscribed!

  • @jamesoblivion
    @jamesoblivion 4 года назад

    This brings back so many memories of struggling with tape machines and fixing tapes in my youth, I had to watch it again.
    Also because I just binged your whole MMZ playlist.
    Again.

  • @ryevalki9043
    @ryevalki9043 4 года назад +1

    This was a cool episode of Lightning Fast VCR Repair

  • @Tiggeralt
    @Tiggeralt 4 года назад +7

    So this is what Homestar Runner was making fun of with "Betaflop-D"

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 года назад +2

      Or one of the digital successor formats that used the same or similar physical structure

    • @jamesoblivion
      @jamesoblivion 4 года назад +4

      Phelous clearly needs a much more beige device. He should check Tom Brokaw's house.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 года назад +1

      @@jamesoblivion we all know the beige models work better than the black or silver ones.. :)

    • @tommydeonauthstheouterids9641
      @tommydeonauthstheouterids9641 4 года назад

      Need to watch that episode...

  • @kagehikari4281
    @kagehikari4281 4 года назад +2

    Wow thanks for the history lesson! Reminds me of the time i had to open up my old vcr to get a tape out the times when it decided to occasionally eat one. love the old tech but they sure can be frustrating at times. Some more than others.

  • @mikekz4489
    @mikekz4489 4 года назад +2

    The high quality of video and audio is in stark contrast to how the player keeps eating the tapes.

  • @VoyageOne1
    @VoyageOne1 4 года назад +1

    Betacam absolutely DOMINATED the broadcast world.

  • @MikeOShay
    @MikeOShay 4 года назад +5

    Phew, for a minute there I was worried we weren't getting an "oh no, beta!"

  • @QueenCheetah
    @QueenCheetah 4 года назад +1

    Fascinating... I collect Laserdiscs myself, but I had no idea that Beta had so many format variances. Also, with regards to the fun of 'opening up a decades old machine and trying to decipher the problem'... the first LD machine I bought and had to open had an intact, Spanish CD hidden inside the back of the inner workings. o.O; I have no idea how it got in there; it was just jammed in the back of the circuit boards by the heat vents (which looked too angled to allow a full CD to find its way inside, but life, uh, finds a way?). So that was kinda strange, even for a thrift store find.

  • @thomasjenkins7506
    @thomasjenkins7506 4 года назад +1

    finally, you can show us the superior version of "getting down in your town."

  • @Lukethefox
    @Lukethefox 4 года назад

    This brings back memories when I was in a few Video production college courses in the 2000's and trying to capture footage off Mini DV tapes.

  • @BentoAUS
    @BentoAUS 4 года назад +2

    I love how Phelous can't mention Beta without making the Simpsons joke at least once.
    Also we now need a creepypasta of that beta tape of "Getting Down In Town", where the turtles have hyper realistic eyes and their concert is actually a satanic ritual where they sacrifice Splinter to their demon overlord, which is why he's dead.

  • @k-trashradio5163
    @k-trashradio5163 4 года назад +6

    Wow you haven't aged a day since phelous

  • @SmartassX1
    @SmartassX1 4 года назад +2

    If your machine is haunted now, all you have to do is play a Ghostbusters tape and scare the machine back to normal.

  • @GizmoFan1
    @GizmoFan1 4 года назад +1

    That art on the evil tape is the same art that's on SUNN O)))'s "White2." Fitting given how terrifying that album can be.

  • @weirdproq
    @weirdproq 4 года назад +3

    I'm surprised Techmoan hasn't covered this format before.

  • @GiaBooSado
    @GiaBooSado 4 года назад +6

    the cursing and problems of the tap is part of the nostalgia

  • @lee4hmz
    @lee4hmz 4 года назад +1

    Oh wow. We had a bunch of half-in-the-bag Betacam SP machines at work for an analog-to-digital conversion project several years back, and I've always been amazed at how much of a Rube Goldberg hack the late-1980s ones were. Of course, several of them didn't work properly by then (the late 2000s)...

  • @U014B
    @U014B 4 года назад +5

    "Old Man Watches 'TMNT: Getting Down In Your Town' Betacam" video when?

    • @FrenchPaul1988
      @FrenchPaul1988 4 года назад +1

      The tape didn't like the nearby humidity. It's completely useless now.

  • @doschickees
    @doschickees 4 года назад +1

    This video has a calming vapourware quality to it

  • @LaNoLaCola
    @LaNoLaCola 4 года назад +13

    Oh no, BetaCam

  • @Uncle-Jay
    @Uncle-Jay 4 года назад +1

    Wow the BetaCam video quality is pretty nice.

  • @tultsi93
    @tultsi93 4 года назад +1

    First we have an evil Turtles toy, and now we have an evil Turtles tape.

  • @Clonekiller66
    @Clonekiller66 4 года назад +3

    "Hello. I am BetaMax, your personal home video format. on a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your frustration?"

  • @timusforlife
    @timusforlife 4 года назад +2

    My mom had BetaCam masters of short films she made decades ago, I'd love to transfer them but now I need a machine that works lol

  • @SamuraiMotoko
    @SamuraiMotoko 4 года назад +2

    Betacam sure holds up

  • @chrisdryer
    @chrisdryer 4 года назад

    i used to work with DVCAM or Pro or whatever in college... i will probably never see what is on those tapes again. I did work with BetaSPs for a while when re-editing canadian tv for resale in the US. good stuff. teachers should have told you to give you 1 minute pre-roll for all tapes. The teachers at my school said it was in case the tapes broke in the beginning. Back in my day we had 3/4 tapes and we loved it.

  • @vivimariefedorov7374
    @vivimariefedorov7374 4 года назад +3

    The contraption that only us children of the 80s and 90s will understand! 📼

    • @gracekim1998
      @gracekim1998 2 года назад +1

      *Me who's a late 90's kid* Er..........

  • @JackieTheBold
    @JackieTheBold 4 года назад +3

    Man you could tell Phelous was getting more and more frustrated as the video went on lol I have the perfect song to listen to if you're frustrated though.
    *PIZZA U.S.A!!!*

  • @gyromurphy
    @gyromurphy 4 года назад +3

    I've never heard of this thing... Honestly I'm really surprised at the quality it has. Pretty damn good all things considered

  • @WyvernSone
    @WyvernSone 4 года назад +2

    Oh gawd there's 3 of them?!? I know the big ones, my dad worked in tv and that's the format they used and my entire childhood is trapped in Betamax and I can't find a player for under $100 😭

  • @gracekim1998
    @gracekim1998 2 года назад

    That clip though 🤣 it caught me off guard there with the wrestling thing
    Waaaaait there’s a ghostbusters musical?!🤩
    Well it certainly um LOOKS complicated😅

  • @MrPitatom
    @MrPitatom 3 года назад

    Betacam SP tapes played or FF/REW in a non-betcam machine will ruin the heads. The Betacam SP tapes are metal particle, not iron-oxide. I learnt the hard way many years ago. Great video.

  • @mpf1947
    @mpf1947 4 года назад +1

    Funny how the Betacam pulls the tape across the head more like a VHS than a Betamax.

  • @catisyellen9877
    @catisyellen9877 4 года назад +1

    I've never seen how a VHS player works, and now I have.

  • @171QA
    @171QA 4 года назад +1

    I wish I had a working VCR. I have so many VHS tapes that I would like to watch again. :(

  • @shoddyworkmanship4934
    @shoddyworkmanship4934 4 года назад +2

    Sorry this video was such a pain to make, but thanks anyway, because I did enjoy it.

  • @SweatPantsJoe
    @SweatPantsJoe 4 года назад +1

    I was digitizing old episodes of Jenny Jones that were mastered on this format very recently

  • @valenzuelasstudios1838
    @valenzuelasstudios1838 2 года назад +1

    1:02 "Ninja Turtles Concert footage more in-depth in another video"
    > 2 years later, no video yet but I'm not trying to rush

    • @phelous
      @phelous  2 года назад +3

      Yeah, I know, there's just a lot of footage to go over and I have a lot of other things I'm working on so it gets sidelined.

    • @valenzuelasstudios1838
      @valenzuelasstudios1838 2 года назад

      @@phelous I understand. Hopefully it all gets taken care of and we get to see that *evil* number Ninja Turtles betacam someday

    • @gracekim1998
      @gracekim1998 2 года назад

      Aye aye Captain 😊

  • @troin3925
    @troin3925 4 года назад

    Honestly, the black and white glitch makes the video quality look cleaner.

  • @macuna1995
    @macuna1995 4 года назад

    My grandmother had one of these at her house when I was a kid. We never used it since she had Cartoon Network, and I'm sure Captain Planet wasn't on Beta.

  • @ZeddtheVHSotaku
    @ZeddtheVHSotaku 4 года назад +1

    God this is very nostalgic to me.

  • @REDKLOK_-_The_Original
    @REDKLOK_-_The_Original 4 года назад

    I see a batacam on amazon right now and it's "rack mounted"... ooh RACK MOUNTED! I'm all about the rack mounted anything. I'm sold!

  • @Konani_the_unicorn_queen
    @Konani_the_unicorn_queen 4 года назад +1

    PHELOUS IS A TECH WIZ!

  • @arubinojr5670
    @arubinojr5670 4 года назад +1

    "Oh no." -- Dana Barrett, Edited for TV.

  • @danixthe3rd650
    @danixthe3rd650 4 года назад

    Thank heavens for DVDs, so you don't have to go through that nonsense from tapes and the VCRs. But it's fun looking back at these old tech.

  • @e93sports80
    @e93sports80 23 дня назад

    10:47 my favorite part

  • @darkone666
    @darkone666 4 года назад +1

    Good old days.

  • @redgrain3914
    @redgrain3914 4 года назад +3

    Phelan is doing retro tech reviews now? Isn't that one of the Seven Seals? The Circle is Complete. The Day of Judgment is at hand. Assuming the End of Days includes the Ninga Turtles pretending to be Bon Jovi, which...I mean, it has to, right?

  • @yorkieratproductions
    @yorkieratproductions 4 года назад +2

    Can you tell that I'm a slightly annoyed?
    yes I can tell quite well. 😔
    Love these types of videos keep it coming.

  • @markiangooley
    @markiangooley 4 года назад +1

    To me, EPK is a type of china clay mined in the now-extinct town of Edgar, Florida...

  • @bleachigo990
    @bleachigo990 4 года назад +1

    1:18
    Did anyone else think they were having seizures in this huddle? No? Just me? Ok 😁

  • @marplatense31
    @marplatense31 4 года назад +19

    "I don't know, I guess you're screwed"
    So basically, teachers were always incompetent...

    • @gracekim1998
      @gracekim1998 Год назад

      Er not always depends on school and location 😅