Out of the 142 subscriptions I make to RUclips woodworking videos you are only the second UK presenter the other one being The New Brit Workshop (Peter Parfitt). The remainder are mainly American. Your style and presentation skills are top notch. Please keep the woodworking videos coming. Best regards.
Hi, so part seven and we are looking at the drawers. This is turning into a longer series than expected. Don’t forget to let me know if the more focused “Friday Fusion for Woodworkers” is of interest. I will run it alongside the regular Tuesday slot - as I wan’t to get back into the workshop. Cheers Andy
Hi Patrick, The fusion series didn’t really take off so Fusion Friday has been put on hold. However, I will be launching a new channel in the New Year that will be 100% focused on CAD/CAM for woodworkers. Cheers Andy
I have seen so many ways to make a drawer and this is by far the best method, using constraints, thank you. And excellent series, very thorough, great pace, and easy to understand. This is the best woodworking course using fusion 360 I've seen. I also could not figure out for several months until today, why my cursor was not snapping to the grid. I checked everything: increments, adaptive, fixed, and you nailed it with constraints, what a relief because I was working on a project that needed just that, thanks again Andy.
I know that in theory there are many ways to do things, I enjoy learning how you do things. I often find that until I see a new way, I just do it my old way without looking further. I like your way of using the available plane for the bottom, thicken the heck out of it, and later on just removing what does not belong. Reminds me of a sculptor who said: "I look at the raw stock and remove material until only the piece remains".
Hi, Glad you are finding it of use. I also like watching how folk do things, you tend to learn a lot that way. I like using planes as they are a good ref point so even when you remove part of the stock they still ref from the plane. Cheers Andy
My opinion is that you are doing a great job, it's the only tutorial I have been found that I can understand how Fusion 360 actually works and the concept behind every tool, really appreciate your effort and looking forward to more videos, I suggest that you can make series of videos about different kinds joinery in details and I think it will be very useful. Thanks again
Hk Hany Allam, Thank you for getting in touch and your kind comments. Just to clarify, how to make them in Fusion or in the workshop or both. Cheers.. Andy
I'm enjoying the series, Andy, and welcome your idea of having a "Fusion video library", with a video for each individual application. Keep up the good work!
I just discovered and subscribed to your channel. This is great series - very well presented. Any tutorials that you make, it will be my pleasure to watch. As you say “Crack On”.
Question: I understand your comment re: copy / paste the left side over to the right. How 'bout the mirror? Create a mid-plane on the drawer front and then mirror the left to create the right. It will get the bottom rebate on the inside, etc. BUT ... in your experience ... will it get the mirror-ed side in the correct position on a re-size? Thanks!
Hi, Yes the mirror command will work well for this, in fact when we build the second drawer unit we will use that command to create the side. So long as the mid point plane is taken from the front panel that we constrained to the drawer opening all should be well. Cheers Andy
Andy, this course topic is so spot on for what I have been trying to learn in fusion 360, that I feel like I custom ordered it. Many Thanks. I do have occasional glitches with fusion 360 but these must be some kind of bug with my system. For example: the fourth time I try to use the collinear constraint when creating the drawer parts, it will fail and give an error. I have to control zed back to just the rectangle and try over 3 to 5 times before it works. I was wondering if others have a similar issue.
Hi Howard, Thank you for getting in touch. Yes, Fusion can be a bit temperamental - and some times the commands don’t behave as one would like. I can never quite work out if it is user error or software glitch. So not just you. Cheers Andy
Hi Howard, I was having the same fault but found I was clicking return to get to the part to constraint but should have been clicking the mouse button instead, I am using a MacBook Pro which isn't the easiest, I think I will invest in a mouse. Great course though.
@@mj7195 Wow! You are correct. Thank you. To say what I think you said in a different way: When creating the rectangle inside the drawer for the bottom, don't hit return to complete the rectangle. Instead click the left mouse button to complete the rectangle. Then I have no problem constraining using the coplanar tool for all 4 sides. I am using a PC and as it was doing the same on your Mac, this must be a fusion 360 thing.
@@hshpegel So, It seems I'm not going insane. Thank you for sharing this morsel of knowledge! Seems 8 Months later (and a newer version) it still has the same issue.
Very nice workflow. There are dozens of ways to do something in these CAD programs. I appreciate you sharing your workflow. One point! .5 mm clearance on three sides and 0 clearance on the bottom? Why did you pick those numbers? Perhaps later on you will adjust this, but wow, we must be planning on super tight drawer rails and we better hope there is no movement in our materials. Also, don't you need a half inch clearance on both sides for the rails?
Thanks Tom, The 0.5 is more a token than a tolerance. When I build I use the plans as a guide, then use proportional dimensioning for final fit. In the actual build - I didn’t use runners, just good fitting of the drawers. From memory the final build had around 1mm all round. Cheers Andy
I just found your videos today. They are wonderful. I'm trying to understand why something is done in the sketch (2D) or to a face in the component (3D). For example, getting the drawer face to the correct size. It seems like there should be a method where the face size is defined in 2D (sketch). The method you showed was to offset the faces (3D) based on a sketch (2D) that is collinear with the drawer opening. Could you also constrain the sketch to be narrower (e.g. do it all in 2D)? Similarly with your dovetail video. One dovetail was drawn on each end in the sketch (2D) and then patterned on the component (3D). Why not setup all of the dovetails in the sketch (2D) and then extrude them all at once to create a 3D object? Figuring out when to do something in the sketch (2D) and when to do it in the component (3D) is one of my biggest mental obstacles in feeling confident with Fusion360.
Hi Eric, What I am trying to allow for is auto re-sizing of the component through parametric modelling. So it's all about building relationships. As an example a sketch that is duplicated using the pattern tool (the dovetail technique) sit on top of the component as a sketch - the sketch then creates a template that you use to cut out the component. If you pattern the sketch then make the cut, then resize the stock through parametric modelling the sketch will not resize - so your cuts are in the wrong place. So it is easier to create a single dovetail - and then use that as a feature, the feature is then referenced 'in' the stock so resizes with the stock. Now if you can constrain a sketch to an edge of a component, the step I took on the drawer front. Then the sketch will re-size as the constraint moves - so any component you make from the sketch (the drawer front) will then re-size. The challenge I had in the design is I wanted the overlap - and you can only constrain a sketch to an edge or point on a component (there are other work arounds - but I wanted to keep it simple), hence creating a component that will re-size and then pulling out the edges by an amount driven by a parameter. HOWEVER, if you want to do it all in the sketch - you can add 'sketch points' these you can constrain to a distance from an edge. So I could have created a sketch point - set that to a distance from an edge - then constrain your drawer sketch to that point (or points) so you would then achieve what you are saying. (Sketch points are in the sketch pane - create menu). I could do the dovetails in the same way by using sketch points to mark out the key points of the dovetails - constrained with user parameters, then join together with the line tool There is no wright or wrong way - do what feels right to you, that way you won't go far wrong. This is a complicated issue, so hard to answer in a text box. Hope I have helped and not confused. Andy
@@TheWoodgrafter Not confused. Thank you for the reply. You did address the fundamental question in my comment. I'll have to learn about sketch points. I know that with tools there are rules and there are strategies. This seems like a strategy discussion and I like to understand the thinking behind why a strategy was selected so that I know when best to apply it. In this case your strategy seemed focused on keeping it simple. Keeping things simple is often valuable. Thanks again for taking time to reply.
Hi Peter, Yes you could -I duplicated the method so folks could see the technique a few times. But yes Inwkukd normally create one side and then mirror. Cheers Andy
Hi, Check out this link. Gives you the specs. knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Fusion-360.html I run it on a late 2014 iMac 5k 3.5ghz quad core, 32GB RAM. 2GB Radeon R9, macOS Catalina. Cheers Andy
You and me both, the problem is anchoring it in the drawer compartment. You can get them to re-size easily enough - but then holding the position becomes the problem. Working on it. Andy
No you can combine them as an object and use the pattern. I just show a repeatable technique so folks can learn the basics. It gives you the confidence to experiment :-)
Hi Ron, Select the component you want to copy, right click and select copy. Then left click on the white space to de-select the component. Then right click on white space again and select paste new, this will put a new component on top of the component you copied. A few arrows will appear allowing to to drag it into it’s new position. Hope that helps. Andy
Out of the 142 subscriptions I make to RUclips woodworking videos you are only the second UK presenter the other one being The New Brit Workshop (Peter Parfitt). The remainder are mainly American. Your style and presentation skills are top notch. Please keep the woodworking videos coming. Best regards.
Hi Ron,
Thank you for this, that is very kind of you.
Regards
Andy
I am here now. Enjoying every bit of your lession.
Cheers William,glad it is of value :-)
Hi, so part seven and we are looking at the drawers. This is turning into a longer series than expected.
Don’t forget to let me know if the more focused “Friday Fusion for Woodworkers” is of interest. I will run it alongside the regular Tuesday slot - as I wan’t to get back into the workshop.
Cheers
Andy
Would love this…
“Friday Fusion for Woodworkers” I am interested Keep up the good work! I am learning a lot ;-)
Hi Patrick,
The fusion series didn’t really take off so Fusion Friday has been put on hold. However, I will be launching a new channel in the New Year that will be 100% focused on CAD/CAM for woodworkers.
Cheers
Andy
Another excellent video. Your use of constraints is elegant.
Thank you, when you get your head round them and then parameters it’s a game changer.
I have seen so many ways to make a drawer and this is by far the best method, using constraints, thank you. And excellent series, very thorough, great pace, and easy to understand. This is the best woodworking course using fusion 360 I've seen. I also could not figure out for several months until today, why my cursor was not snapping to the grid. I checked everything: increments, adaptive, fixed, and you nailed it with constraints, what a relief because I was working on a project that needed just that, thanks again Andy.
I know that in theory there are many ways to do things, I enjoy learning how you do things. I often find that until I see a new way, I just do it my old way without looking further. I like your way of using the available plane for the bottom, thicken the heck out of it, and later on just removing what does not belong. Reminds me of a sculptor who said: "I look at the raw stock and remove material until only the piece remains".
Hi,
Glad you are finding it of use. I also like watching how folk do things, you tend to learn a lot that way.
I like using planes as they are a good ref point so even when you remove part of the stock they still ref from the plane.
Cheers
Andy
Great course thanks!
You are welcome
Thanks for the great explanations! Especially on constraints and parametric modeling.
Hi Travis,
Thank you for the feedback.
Cheers
Andy
I'm really enjoying your videos and am learning a lot about Fusion 360. Now I just have to learn woodworking ;-0
Thanks Jonathan,
Glad you are enjoying them.
Cheers
Andy
My opinion is that you are doing a great job, it's the only tutorial I have been found that I can understand how Fusion 360 actually works and the concept behind every tool, really appreciate your effort and looking forward to more videos, I suggest that you can make series of videos about different kinds joinery in details and I think it will be very useful.
Thanks again
Hk Hany Allam,
Thank you for getting in touch and your kind comments.
Just to clarify, how to make them in Fusion or in the workshop or both.
Cheers..
Andy
Fridays idea is great - developing a skill comfort with 360 can benefit woodworkers.
Thanks Chas,
First one went live on Friday night, let’s see how it goes.
Cheers
Andy
Another vote for your idea Andy... That must have been frustrating working that out for the drawer...Cheers Paul
Sadly Paul, my brain likes that type of challenge :-(
I will create a pilot Fusion Friday for tomorrow and see how it goes.
Cheers
Andy
I'm enjoying the series, Andy, and welcome your idea of having a "Fusion video library", with a video for each individual application. Keep up the good work!
Thank Neil,
The first two video in the library will be out later tonight.
They are uploading as we speak (type...)
Cheers
Andy
“Friday Fusion for Woodworkers” - as a newbie, great idea
Great thank you - three votes
happy days and dunk!
nice videos!
Thank you
Thanks for sharing your experience in fusion 360.
No problems, hope you are finding this of value.
Regards
Andy
I just discovered and subscribed to your channel. This is great series - very well presented. Any tutorials that you make, it will be my pleasure to watch. As you say “Crack On”.
Thank for this David,
Glad you are funding it of value.
Crack on indeed.
Andy
I'm late to the party but this is awesome! I've been following along and haven't gotten lost yet, its really a great beginner course!
Thank you for the feedback,
Glad you are finding it useful.
Andy
Really good idea 👍 thanks
Perfect thats two votes
Hi, Good idea may simplify Fusion 360
Regards Steve
Thank you
Question: I understand your comment re: copy / paste the left side over to the right. How 'bout the mirror? Create a mid-plane on the drawer front and then mirror the left to create the right. It will get the bottom rebate on the inside, etc. BUT ... in your experience ... will it get the mirror-ed side in the correct position on a re-size? Thanks!
Hi,
Yes the mirror command will work well for this, in fact when we build the second drawer unit we will use that command to create the side.
So long as the mid point plane is taken from the front panel that we constrained to the drawer opening all should be well.
Cheers
Andy
Rescued from Sketchup, a public service Andy
LoL
Cheers Mark, that made me smile.
Andy
Andy, this course topic is so spot on for what I have been trying to learn in fusion 360, that I feel like I custom ordered it. Many Thanks. I do have occasional glitches with fusion 360 but these must be some kind of bug with my system. For example: the fourth time I try to use the collinear constraint when creating the drawer parts, it will fail and give an error. I have to control zed back to just the rectangle and try over 3 to 5 times before it works. I was wondering if others have a similar issue.
Hi Howard,
Thank you for getting in touch. Yes, Fusion can be a bit temperamental - and some times the commands don’t behave as one would like.
I can never quite work out if it is user error or software glitch. So not just you.
Cheers
Andy
Hi Howard, I was having the same fault but found I was clicking return to get to the part to constraint but should have been clicking the mouse button instead, I am using a MacBook Pro which isn't the easiest, I think I will invest in a mouse. Great course though.
@@mj7195 Wow! You are correct. Thank you. To say what I think you said in a different way: When creating the rectangle inside the drawer for the bottom, don't hit return to complete the rectangle. Instead click the left mouse button to complete the rectangle. Then I have no problem constraining using the coplanar tool for all 4 sides. I am using a PC and as it was doing the same on your Mac, this must be a fusion 360 thing.
@@hshpegel So, It seems I'm not going insane. Thank you for sharing this morsel of knowledge! Seems 8 Months later (and a newer version) it still has the same issue.
👍👍👍
Thanks!
Your welcome
Very nice workflow. There are dozens of ways to do something in these CAD programs. I appreciate you sharing your workflow. One point! .5 mm clearance on three sides and 0 clearance on the bottom? Why did you pick those numbers? Perhaps later on you will adjust this, but wow, we must be planning on super tight drawer rails and we better hope there is no movement in our materials. Also, don't you need a half inch clearance on both sides for the rails?
Thanks Tom,
The 0.5 is more a token than a tolerance. When I build I use the plans as a guide, then use proportional dimensioning for final fit. In the actual build - I didn’t use runners, just good fitting of the drawers.
From memory the final build had around 1mm all round.
Cheers
Andy
I just found your videos today. They are wonderful. I'm trying to understand why something is done in the sketch (2D) or to a face in the component (3D). For example, getting the drawer face to the correct size. It seems like there should be a method where the face size is defined in 2D (sketch). The method you showed was to offset the faces (3D) based on a sketch (2D) that is collinear with the drawer opening. Could you also constrain the sketch to be narrower (e.g. do it all in 2D)? Similarly with your dovetail video. One dovetail was drawn on each end in the sketch (2D) and then patterned on the component (3D). Why not setup all of the dovetails in the sketch (2D) and then extrude them all at once to create a 3D object? Figuring out when to do something in the sketch (2D) and when to do it in the component (3D) is one of my biggest mental obstacles in feeling confident with Fusion360.
Hi Eric,
What I am trying to allow for is auto re-sizing of the component through parametric modelling. So it's all about building relationships.
As an example a sketch that is duplicated using the pattern tool (the dovetail technique) sit on top of the component as a sketch - the sketch then creates a template that you use to cut out the component. If you pattern the sketch then make the cut, then resize the stock through parametric modelling the sketch will not resize - so your cuts are in the wrong place. So it is easier to create a single dovetail - and then use that as a feature, the feature is then referenced 'in' the stock so resizes with the stock.
Now if you can constrain a sketch to an edge of a component, the step I took on the drawer front. Then the sketch will re-size as the constraint moves - so any component you make from the sketch (the drawer front) will then re-size. The challenge I had in the design is I wanted the overlap - and you can only constrain a sketch to an edge or point on a component (there are other work arounds - but I wanted to keep it simple), hence creating a component that will re-size and then pulling out the edges by an amount driven by a parameter.
HOWEVER, if you want to do it all in the sketch - you can add 'sketch points' these you can constrain to a distance from an edge. So I could have created a sketch point - set that to a distance from an edge - then constrain your drawer sketch to that point (or points) so you would then achieve what you are saying. (Sketch points are in the sketch pane - create menu).
I could do the dovetails in the same way by using sketch points to mark out the key points of the dovetails - constrained with user parameters, then join together with the line tool
There is no wright or wrong way - do what feels right to you, that way you won't go far wrong.
This is a complicated issue, so hard to answer in a text box.
Hope I have helped and not confused.
Andy
@@TheWoodgrafter Not confused. Thank you for the reply. You did address the fundamental question in my comment. I'll have to learn about sketch points. I know that with tools there are rules and there are strategies. This seems like a strategy discussion and I like to understand the thinking behind why a strategy was selected so that I know when best to apply it. In this case your strategy seemed focused on keeping it simple. Keeping things simple is often valuable. Thanks again for taking time to reply.
Could you use mirror to do second side panel of a drawer?
Hi Peter,
Yes you could -I duplicated the method so folks could see the technique a few times.
But yes Inwkukd normally create one side and then mirror.
Cheers
Andy
Hi Andy, great videos,
can you tell me the minimum system requirements needed to run Fusion360
I would imagine any modern day PC will easily cope with Fusion
Hi,
Check out this link. Gives you the specs.
knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Fusion-360.html
I run it on a late 2014 iMac 5k 3.5ghz quad core, 32GB RAM. 2GB Radeon R9, macOS Catalina.
Cheers
Andy
I am really hoping we can in some way just copy n paste the first drawer to fit the rest of the openings
You and me both, the problem is anchoring it in the drawer compartment. You can get them to re-size easily enough - but then holding the position becomes the problem.
Working on it.
Andy
Do you need to copy and paste each drawer? Question is would setting up a rectangular pattern based on drawer quantity work?
No you can combine them as an object and use the pattern.
I just show a repeatable technique so folks can learn the basics. It gives you the confidence to experiment :-)
How do you copy and ‘paste new’?
Hi Ron,
Select the component you want to copy, right click and select copy.
Then left click on the white space to de-select the component.
Then right click on white space again and select paste new, this will put a new component on top of the component you copied.
A few arrows will appear allowing to to drag it into it’s new position.
Hope that helps.
Andy