There is something that none have except Ridgid: Lifetime Service Agreement. You can always use some penetrating oil to help loosen those nuts but, what about when the tool breaks? Or the battery fails? Ridgid covers that.
I don't consider Ridgid tools industrial grade like Milwaukee. I've had Ridgid, switched to Milwaukee, and never looked back. Lifetime warranty should be the last thing you look at. More important is reliability (reputation), power, smooth trigger and quality switches, battery interchangeable among other products, and Milwaukee has a huge product line. In the end, that saves you a fortune, for those who need multiple battery operated tools. You don't want a dozen batteries and different chargers.
Not really a great comparison video but got to the point at the end. Bigger impacts are monsters break anything loose, design for lug nut and suspension work. While the smaller ones are designed for smaller bolts and nuts.
You don't have to unstake it. It takes less than 20ft-lbs to remove the stake, I made a video about it. Also I have removed probably 100 axle nuts on this channel without removing the stake. You are right though that it is a safety feature to keep the nut from backing off. Most people don't understand the difference between backing off and getting loose and these nuts can still get loose with the tab staked in.
Important lesson I figured out......use a breaker bar to loosen your axel or lug nuts, then use your impact zip it right off, therefore extending the life of your impact......That is IF you're not in a hurry
Everyone seems to have missed the point. It's not about brand, it's about size. That dewalt is a full size gun and it takes it off with ease. He's showing that those mid size guns are not the way to go. If you need one gun, buy the biggest one
V.Vega Milwaukee has a mid-torque that compares to this DeWalt power wise, but has a smaller footprint. You may not need the 1400 ft from the high torque, when they have the 750ft mid torque
ranthepartsman Wrong. I have a 750lb gun at work that i rarely use because I'm constantly finding things it can't take off. You may get away with the small gun 99% of the time, but that 1% when you need the big gun, you NEED the big gun. That dewalt is rated around 1200lbft, nearly double the mid torque.
Totally agree. Just need to have the right tool for the job. Now i will say he should have tried first with larger battery on the two smaller impact. Just to see if had a better result. Hard with the 2.0ah batteries for larger bolt removing.
@@Xixu.co.6 Yes and some brands have a different type of batteries which have different cells inside of them which helps with the performance of the tools.
I think it just depends on your needs for the impact wrench or impact drill. With HVAC, I really don’t need anything more powerful than a 12v or maybe 18v impact, otherwise I am going to strip the panel screws. And most of the home repairs I do, my M12 impact is just perfect. Now for rusty axel nuts like that, bigger is better. I don’t think it’s wise to state that it’s better to buy the more powerful impact first and then buy the mid range torque ones. I would recommend that you should evaluate your needs first and then compare the brands and voltages and make the purchase that will meet your needs.
For a small impact wrench get the Milwaukee M12 stubby impact wrench in 3/8 or 1/2. For a big impact get the Milwaukee high torque impact or DeWalt high torque like in this video. In my opinion Milwaukee has the nest automotive line of power tools out of the brands you can buy in stores.
@@golfer963 Seems like youre not the smartest one either, that little nut has little pin so secure it. The wrench has to cut the pin in order to losen the nut, which you might see couldnt do any of those wrenches besides the dewalt tool.
If you look at timestamp 253 you can see when he hit the trigger the Ridgid was going in reverse Direction and he kept on running in the reverse Direction and yes the nut that have a little place you knock down to lock it place but it don't have a pen in it
I finally understand where you are coming from on these small, mid and high impacts. The only ones I have is the makita xwt14z and the xwt08z and that is a perfect combo. 5 % of the time I don’t use the high impact but when I do!it gets me out a tough situation that could of taken hrs.
I get the point of the video, bigger is more versatile in your context. But for the test, it would have been "better" to use same sized batteries for each impact. I think batterie size also helps oomph up power of the tool. For instance, the Milwaukee 2855, which I use to have and felt it to be under powered, performed much better with 5.0 and 9.0 amp/h batteries then the (I think) 2.0 you were using. Either way, these smaller impacts are normally intended for under hood, un-rusted, or smaller motor work! I have the stubby now in complement to the mid-torque and also have the high-torque. I still use the mid-torque for most my work. The stubby, which is a fabulously made impact, has its limitations. The high-torque is too bulky to lug around all day. The mid-torque, which I think Milwaukee will be revising in an oiled version this year, is the perfect size for 90% of the work. The other 10% is complemented by the H-T or the Stubby. I am equipped well and will not use a bar to break off bolts! With my choices, those days are over ;) Then again, you seem to be involved in rusty automotive work whereas I work mostly in construction type heavy stationary equipment work. That being said, my needs are different then yours and you are well served using those larger impacts. Thanks for the video! Thumbs up for me.
I use 2ah batteries on my 1/2" makita impact all the time and it hits just as hard as any other size battery. No noticable difference at all. But i do know some cheaper brands like ridgid can run differently with a smaller battery. That just comes down to them being cheap batteries though.
Bobsyouruncle Wilson - well, point taken... how do you figure my 12amp has 216wh draw versus my 9amp at 162 and my 5 at 90? There is more power drawn from a larger battery where a motor accepts that draw. And these accepts the draw difference. I can clearly tell when my h-t is on a 12amp versus a 2amp. Hit a tough nut with a 2.0 and again with a 12.0 and watch what happens. There are plenty of videos on YT to show this. Explain the gas tank analogy again please and include the difference in wh draw as well. Are you a Yellow team fan? ;)
@@zoilorami its winter i went in to get the other impact took off boots put on shoes....if you don't live where it snows...yeah you would not understand.
Because he score better goals with them ... sometimes if you wanna do the job proper...you must to wear correct shoos... even the socks too ;-))) ...I believe him,alleluia!
You think if it was a Dewalt struggling and then I took a Milwaukee and it loosened it there would be the same comments? LOL the comments would be like WOW MILWAUKEE IS THE BEST! There would not be ONE comment like yours.
I totally agree. I hate buying things that 'almost get 'er done', so I have a history of buying "heavy duty" everything. I have a 18v Milwaukee Sawzall (not just a pretty name...) that needs big batteries so all my batteries are 12Ahr. All good so far... When my last DeWalt drill finally died, I bought the Milwaukee 1/2" 18v hammer drill. I don't notice it until I pick it up after using something smaller. I now call it my "1/2" 1/2 ton". A coworker has a 1/2" 12v drill that, as you say, will do 95% of the jobs required. With 1/4 the strain and fatigue (not to mention the money). Bottom line: Bigger, stronger, heavier isn't always required, therefore not always better.
Mate, that Milwaukee will do the job if you do it right - you gotta unstake the nut first. A bigger more powerful one will do the job too, but if you unstake the nut as you're supposed to, you woudln't actually _need_ quite as big one. Might be the other two would do it too, but I'm not familiar with them so I would just be guessing. The 3rd one with the big battery I guess would do the trick, there *ARE* significant differences in torque capacity between small 1.0-2.0 Ah batteries with only a single 18-20 volt cell bank, and 4+Ah batteries with multiple banks in parallel. The smaller batteries simply can't deliver enough current to maximize the motors potential. It might do fine for a sub 2-250 newtonmeter impact, but anything much beyond that you need multiple banks. This is why you never see 275+nm impact wrenches sold with the small batteries, even though they could squeeze the sales price down further; It's almost always a 5Ah battery or larger. Because the small batteries can't make the machine perform anywhere near as advertised. That said, if you can only have one, or need one to start with, I agree. Get the most powerful one you can afford. And ffs don't get the small batteries if buying that separately.
@@singlecams How about you google "removing axle nut" before going through all that, and crapping on the tools. You ARE doing it wrong - a properly mounted axle nut *_is intentionally designed NOT to come off that way._* Unstake the nut first. Then it may come off with the compact. But frankly, if specifically for though ones like axle nuts and crankshaft bolts, the mid-torque M18 or any other impact wrench of similar caliber and torque, is more suitable. If its rusted, the M12 regular compact and others of similar torque are probably gonna be out of their depth. If you're looking for compact, I'd rather suggest the Milwaukee 1/2" stubby. It's about 350nm, will do 90-95% of auto bolts, and it's *really* short. Like shorter than most air impacts. I'm sure Dewalt, Makita etc will offer a similar design eventually, but for now AFAIK only Milwaukee does a proper stubby impact over 200nm. At the end of the day brands are irrelevant, what matters is that the tool does the job you need it for and that you can afford it. But no tool can compensate for doing the job incorrectly.
@@pr0xZen If you need to "google" how to "remove an axle nut" then it is best to stick with whatever instructions you can find. You can clearly see a mid torque is not suitable for remove axle nuts in this video ruclips.net/video/ELqqJe8ajc8/видео.html even UNSTAKED nuts...to tell people otherwise is misleading.
Totally agree! I use a DeWalt brushless one and it is a brilliant machine. It shrugs off hard daily use and has never let me down. You will not regret buying one- don't waste your hard earned money on lesser machines!
Izek Shteinberg what you working on that needs 1400 ft ld!? Won't be swapping my DeWalt for a Milwaukee anytime soon, not come across a nut it can't undo!
It has all you'll ever need. Unless you do trucks and buses, machines, heavy construction and industry etc. Then you'll run into a few you need a proper two-hander for. And at that scale, air or mains power is usually more prevalent. You don't get a one-machine-for-everything if you need that kind of impact torque (2500nm and up). Nor would you want to - not only are they usually 20-30 pounds and more, but you're looking at 1" sockets or bigger. At that point you really don't wanna have to get large sets of small sizes, it easily becomes more expensive thsn having 2-3 different impact wrenches instead.
I think I get his message if you're going to be working on things bigger than say your average car or light duty truck. Go with the high torque but still I would have liked to seen the comparison with high torque wrench versus the other high torque offerings from the other makers. But overall still a good video and good information on what wrenches can take off what bolts. 🔧👍
Yes the dewalt has more torque but the point of the video is to show you to buy a bigger more powerful impact than a smaller one first because of tight bolts like the axle nut or other bolts
I have used my brushless ridgid to removed an axle nut so i dont know what happened in this video. My were just as rusted and hard to removed. Tried first time didnt move so blasted with some lubrication and then came off second time. The ridgid removes upto 450 foot pounds.
I'm a Milwaukee and now Ridgid user. I've already picked up the New high torque 1/2 and looking at picking a midtorque aswell. I was lucky enough to pick up a bunch of new Octane 3.0's aswell to complement both tools and get the most power out of them. I understand this vid was made before the Octane batteries came out, but I enjoy watching your real world content. We all know the true power comes out with the 21700 cells in the Octane 3. I believe a new Ridgid 8.0 with true 21700's is coming this year so that be cool. I have most of the new M18 Gen 1 and Gen 2 impacts, but since Ridgid will be de-tuning their new impacts this year I'm picking some up before these older models are gone. I did see some users bashing your video, but they are not as informed SMH. Looking forward to seeing this wrench again when you pick up that new 8.0 21700 battery 🤣👍
So you use the Rigid’s, and Milwaukee 600-800 ft-lb’s compared to a Dewalt XR 1,000 ft-lb’s. You should use the Milwaukee 60 volt 1/2” impact. You would make the vehicle drive forward.
You should use Milwaukee M18 FMTIWP12 to compare products. Torque value of the product you compare is 300nm 24 bite of the nut you are trying to remove.
@Bobsyouruncle Wilson that wasn't my train of thought actually. I've seen a video where he put a Makita with a 5ah battery against a Milwaukee with a 2 ah and it was neck and neck until he slapped the bigger battery on the Milwaukee. That led me to believe that the bigger battery actually helped supply more power to the tool at one time than the smaller battery. Almost like a cars throttle being let open to allow more air into the engine thus creating more power
I use the compact Milwaukee with either a 5.0 or 6.0 and it takes axle nuts easy but to be honest I think you are right get the one with most power and then work your way back the only think it’s people got it remember it’s don’t break any small fasteners
I started with an Ingersol Rand and love it. Then I got an Earthquake and use it to rip off anything that needs to be taken off (1200 ft lbs). So yeah, keep them tools. I’m happy with mine
It depends on the job and what you do for me i got the kobalt 1/2 and had no problem with head bolts but again it depends on what you do and what you have to spend
The last one is a much more powerful impact wrench 1200ft-lbs of torque vs the rest with 200-400. If you watch the latest video you will see the difference on multiple different axle nuts.
I have a facom wich kind of is a dewalt loads of torque but It's very heavy. sure, you won't find anything that it can't take off, but a smaller one in addition certainly is needed, especially for lugnuts and all that routine stuff
So you compare all the impact guns at different battery amp, try putting 6amp battery on the ridge and im sure it'll work... Cuz I have also the ridge genx5 with 6amp battery and it dose what I need on rusted car parts.. still cheaper then the DeWalt also...
Having read many of the comments what would you recommend for changing lawn mower blades on a regular basis. It's 15/16 inch on a gravely 60" at least one machine a day I have 5 mowers.
I see this is an older video so this may not have been true 2 years ago, but this approach is even better now, right? _Because_ now the high torque impacts also have several modes, like 1-3 and auto. So a Ridgid R86211beast will do the tougher jobs, but can also be dialled down for lighter work. Would that actually work? Mine is still in the mail so I can’t experiment yet!
Try using the DeWalt first, the results would be different. I use a breaker bar first, then you use whatever to finish the job. No nonsense in my case. By the way, had a DeWalt and sold it; nothing beats a breaker bar.
if you need a cordless impact wrench that will not break the bank go with the RIDGID 18v octane for $150 battery included and it has 450ft-lbs tightening torque and 650ft-lbs nut-busting torque. if money is no issue and you work on vehicles/farm equipment daily buy the DeWalt max xr 20v runs $400 with battery and charger.
Penetrating fluid would work better for that rust than just using a impact. Spray it give it a couple of seconds or a min then hit it with impact. Work smarter not harder!!
@@tonybucca5667 Obviously you havent learned anything in 50 years. Ask yourself what is the purpose of a cotter pin, safetywire or staking and you will learn something today.
Impacts are going to vary for everyone. If you live in cali then even a ryobi 300 pound feet tourue 1/2inch will do. But if you live somewhere with tons of road salt and rain then the rust will make it so that you might need 1200 pound feet of tourque milwaukee 3/4 inch. Use what works for you. But generally (for lug nuts and axle nuts) bugger is better
So, I am currently a student for auto mechanics. I own the exact Rigid he used. And mine takes axle nuts off of Ford F250's and 350's just fine. So I don't know what the hell he is talking about. Plus if you drop a Dewalt from 4 feet the damn things never work the same way again
Trying to figure out what ur saying, lol right tool for the right job. Doesn't mean others are bad smdh😔 but use what u need for ur job and make sure its alittle over power for the job ur doing and you will be fine. Bring 3/8 to a 1/4, bring 1/2 to a 3/8 party lol. Just don't use them to tighten 😉
To use an impact wrench properly you have to push on it's back too. The smaller ones even the no name China one work if you push/lean with the other hand on the backside of the unit
Deveria após ter tirado o primeiro, ir para a outra roda pra confirmar a potência da máquina, a porca estava praticamente solta depois de ter recebido o impacto das primeiras tentativas.
If this video stopped cutting away from the axle nut to get different tools I would say its good video but how do we know its not set up ,next time put camera on stand so its always filming have all tools set out in front off the camera then re do it so we can see fair comparison
The comparison was *"size* of impact wrench", not brands. That said, he Ideally should have given them all 4-5Ah, multi-bank batteries. That really matters for high-current tools lile impact wrenches. And unstaked that nut.
pr0xZen Milwaukee has a mid-torque that is roughly the same size as the DeWalt and Rigid 🤔 What’s funny is Milwaukee m12 stubby make more torque than the m18 he’s using in this video 🤦♂️
@@ranthepartsman6455 True. But this doesn't look like a sponsored or high-viewcount video. If he already have all those wrenches featured, it make little sense to get the M12 stubby just for this video, and he likely doesn't need one (else he'd likely already have one in his collection). I'm hoping Milwaukee will do an M18 stubby soon - a 650-800nm ish 1/2" one. The big 14-1500 bastard does "everything" but it's stupidly heavy and, well, big n bulky. Once you start needing to stack on extensions and joints, the effective torque at the socket plummits. Fast n hard. And the current stubby flies a couple hundred newtonmeters lower than needed for the rusted suspension parts I'd love to use it on. Don't get me wrong. I love the big red bertha. It's just far too big, heavy, fatiguing for a go-to/daily driver. IM(P)O the ultimate compromise would be a 1/2" friction ring M18 brushless (moar power possible in shorter assembly design) *stubby,* putting out 650-800 nm. That effectively replaces the need for air impacts in tight spaces for me. The big bertha IMO, while the OneKey ones have quite capable torque control, is closer to a replacement for a two-hander. It's _not meant_ to be a spannermonkey sidearm. Oh and it shears and strips mid-size bolts like crazy if you forget to calm her down again after having to rub her full chooch -button on something 😅
He's not comparing same "weightclass" between different brands, he's comparing (roughly) different "sizes" of impacts. It's not perfect, bit a very valid comparison. That big-ass dewalt is great, so is its direct competitors. But if you veeery rarely need that mega level of impact torque, having something shorter and lighter is a VERY big advantage. Especially if you use it a lot, use it overhead etc. Got the monster Milwaukee - and while it's a beast and awesome, it's stupidly heavy for a daily driver.
The rigid is equivalent to the dewalt. I have the same gun, shes a beast. Not the strongest on the market, but a lot of bang for the buck and the auto tightening feature is nice. Ive gotten axle nuts off with mine too.
Earthquake xt by harbor freight. $269 has 1200lbft of torque. I'm a truck mechanic and I use it all day long. It works so good i have other mechanics snatching it! Lol
Uhhhm... You're supposed to un-dent the locking part of the nut before spinning them off.... Lol... Of course none of the lower torque guns would spin that off.
@@Alexander_l322 you do not have to bend it out if you watch the impact videos on this channel....only noobs bend out the tab...the tab does not stop the nut from getting loose only from coming off...just like a cotter pin
@@seasgarage and i use a tone of them lol. Never a issue since 08' just 4 batteries and a trigger for one impact lol. Im a Carpenter, also use at home for my vehicles and projects 👍
Prefer a handy-sized Makita(still 1/2") that I can use around and under my car for 90% of jobs. The two occasions that I've needed anything bigger, I've hired one for the day. I hate the idea of having a really expensive piece of kit that I can rarely use.
If his doing it on the same one than how do u know which one is exactly stronger if maybe the first and second one might have already loosen it little at time with different ones js
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Will and it would help if he would take and unbend where they bend it into the groove!all you have to do is hit it a couple times. What a waste of time I would have had it off the first try with 1/2 inch drive ratchet.
This is a easy fix on the half inch drive impacts with Milwaukee fuel and Ridgid and this huge badass top rated big battery XR impact lol I got a gen 5 x brushless Ridgid impact and it is now one of the smallest ones out and id by far the strongest regular impact all u have to do is get the octane batteries in 3mah or 6 or 9 OCTANE. I have the 3mah octane batteries and it would crank that off just as easy or maybe faster than that desalt lol the gen 5 x or never or even octane models r made to get double the power and runtime just by having the octane batteries believe me it’s hard to keep up with all the battery upgrades but it’s the real deal
I cant help to notice that the camera was filming straight thru out the first 3 impacts, but after the rigid test there was a scene skip, 🤔 kind of suspicious.
If you would have got a screwdriver and popped the tab up on the axle nut to where it could turn freely the first impact could have worked! The reason it’s indented is for it not to turn!
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There is something that none have except Ridgid: Lifetime Service Agreement. You can always use some penetrating oil to help loosen those nuts but, what about when the tool breaks? Or the battery fails? Ridgid covers that.
The brushless version works much better than that brushed one too
I don't consider Ridgid tools industrial grade like Milwaukee. I've had Ridgid, switched to Milwaukee, and never looked back. Lifetime warranty should be the last thing you look at. More important is reliability (reputation), power, smooth trigger and quality switches, battery interchangeable among other products, and Milwaukee has a huge product line. In the end, that saves you a fortune, for those who need multiple battery operated tools. You don't want a dozen batteries and different chargers.
My dad uses ridgid. I own dewalt and makita. He has had at least twice as many batteries fail than I have.
Not really a great comparison video but got to the point at the end. Bigger impacts are monsters break anything loose, design for lug nut and suspension work. While the smaller ones are designed for smaller bolts and nuts.
It usually helps if you first take a punch and ping the part they smash into the shaft back out. It's like a safety to keep axle nut from backing off.
You don't have to unstake it. It takes less than 20ft-lbs to remove the stake, I made a video about it. Also I have removed probably 100 axle nuts on this channel without removing the stake. You are right though that it is a safety feature to keep the nut from backing off. Most people don't understand the difference between backing off and getting loose and these nuts can still get loose with the tab staked in.
Important lesson I figured out......use a breaker bar to loosen your axel or lug nuts, then use your impact zip it right off, therefore extending the life of your impact......That is IF you're not in a hurry
buy bigger one first, than go for smaller ones. excellent point 👍
Everyone seems to have missed the point. It's not about brand, it's about size. That dewalt is a full size gun and it takes it off with ease. He's showing that those mid size guns are not the way to go. If you need one gun, buy the biggest one
V.Vega Milwaukee has a mid-torque that compares to this DeWalt power wise, but has a smaller footprint. You may not need the 1400 ft from the high torque, when they have the 750ft mid torque
ranthepartsman Wrong. I have a 750lb gun at work that i rarely use because I'm constantly finding things it can't take off. You may get away with the small gun 99% of the time, but that 1% when you need the big gun, you NEED the big gun. That dewalt is rated around 1200lbft, nearly double the mid torque.
Totally agree. Just need to have the right tool for the job.
Now i will say he should have tried first with larger battery on the two smaller impact. Just to see if had a better result. Hard with the 2.0ah batteries for larger bolt removing.
Michael C My 1/2" makita hits just as hard with a 2ah as it does with a 5ah. But i know some cheaper brands are affected by battery size.
@@Xixu.co.6
Yes and some brands have a different type of batteries which have different cells inside of them which helps with the performance of the tools.
I think it just depends on your needs for the impact wrench or impact drill. With HVAC, I really don’t need anything more powerful than a 12v or maybe 18v impact, otherwise I am going to strip the panel screws. And most of the home repairs I do, my M12 impact is just perfect. Now for rusty axel nuts like that, bigger is better. I don’t think it’s wise to state that it’s better to buy the more powerful impact first and then buy the mid range torque ones. I would recommend that you should evaluate your needs first and then compare the brands and voltages and make the purchase that will meet your needs.
I recommend UN-STAKING the axle nut first!
For a small impact wrench get the Milwaukee M12 stubby impact wrench in 3/8 or 1/2. For a big impact get the Milwaukee high torque impact or DeWalt high torque like in this video. In my opinion Milwaukee has the nest automotive line of power tools out of the brands you can buy in stores.
The other three loosened it for the dewalt! Lol
was thinking the same.
All that vibration from the other impacts loosen up for the DeWalt no problem.. This guy's about dumb as a box of rocks who's doing this video
@@golfer963 Seems like youre not the smartest one either, that little nut has little pin so secure it. The wrench has to cut the pin in order to losen the nut, which you might see couldnt do any of those wrenches besides the dewalt tool.
If you look at timestamp 253 you can see when he hit the trigger the Ridgid was going in reverse Direction and he kept on running in the reverse Direction and yes the nut that have a little place you knock down to lock it place but it don't have a pen in it
Exactly what i was saying.
I finally understand where you are coming from on these small, mid and high impacts. The only ones I have is the makita xwt14z and the xwt08z and that is a perfect combo. 5 % of the time I don’t use the high impact but when I do!it gets me out a tough situation that could of taken hrs.
Thank u Dan 😊👊 u are totally right
That's where I am in life! Use what you have but when in doubt... bust the big gun out 😁😁
I get the point of the video, bigger is more versatile in your context. But for the test, it would have been "better" to use same sized batteries for each impact.
I think batterie size also helps oomph up power of the tool. For instance, the Milwaukee 2855, which I use to have and felt it to be under powered, performed much better with 5.0 and 9.0 amp/h batteries then the (I think) 2.0 you were using. Either way, these smaller impacts are normally intended for under hood, un-rusted, or smaller motor work!
I have the stubby now in complement to the mid-torque and also have the high-torque. I still use the mid-torque for most my work. The stubby, which is a fabulously made impact, has its limitations. The high-torque is too bulky to lug around all day. The mid-torque, which I think Milwaukee will be revising in an oiled version this year, is the perfect size for 90% of the work. The other 10% is complemented by the H-T or the Stubby. I am equipped well and will not use a bar to break off bolts! With my choices, those days are over ;)
Then again, you seem to be involved in rusty automotive work whereas I work mostly in construction type heavy stationary equipment work. That being said, my needs are different then yours and you are well served using those larger impacts.
Thanks for the video! Thumbs up for me.
singlecams - lolll for the batteries... agreed, they are just underpowered for that job.
I use 2ah batteries on my 1/2" makita impact all the time and it hits just as hard as any other size battery. No noticable difference at all. But i do know some cheaper brands like ridgid can run differently with a smaller battery. That just comes down to them being cheap batteries though.
The littlest one could have done it if he had UN-STAKED the axle nut!
Bobsyouruncle Wilson - well, point taken... how do you figure my 12amp has 216wh draw versus my 9amp at 162 and my 5 at 90? There is more power drawn from a larger battery where a motor accepts that draw. And these accepts the draw difference. I can clearly tell when my h-t is on a 12amp versus a 2amp. Hit a tough nut with a 2.0 and again with a 12.0 and watch what happens. There are plenty of videos on YT to show this. Explain the gas tank analogy again please and include the difference in wh draw as well. Are you a Yellow team fan? ;)
Uses a wrong Milwaukee to compare
Read the description. He's not comparing Milwaukee vs Dewalt or Ridgid or Tenwa. He's demonstrating why you often need a big impact wrench.
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Those guns are too small ,needs the bigger 1/2 drive Milwaukee bust that right off
Milwaukee stubby would of done it with no problem
@@dmack177 doubt the stubby could
I still didn't understand why you changed your shoes it makes the video looks like you cheated
You sir are amazing!
Yeah! That's right
@@zoilorami its winter i went in to get the other impact took off boots put on shoes....if you don't live where it snows...yeah you would not understand.
Because he score better goals with them
... sometimes if you wanna do the job proper...you must to wear correct shoos... even the socks too ;-)))
...I believe him,alleluia!
@@singlecams nice beat down
You can't use them all on the same bolt thats unfair because each one did some work which made it easier for the last one
You think if it was a Dewalt struggling and then I took a Milwaukee and it loosened it there would be the same comments? LOL the comments would be like WOW MILWAUKEE IS THE BEST! There would not be ONE comment like yours.
Solid logic, but the smaller ones sure are nicer to use for the other 95% of jobs that don't need 1000+ ft-lbs of torque.
I totally agree. I hate buying things that 'almost get 'er done', so I have a history of buying "heavy duty" everything. I have a 18v Milwaukee Sawzall (not just a pretty name...) that needs big batteries so all my batteries are 12Ahr. All good so far...
When my last DeWalt drill finally died, I bought the Milwaukee 1/2" 18v hammer drill.
I don't notice it until I pick it up after using something smaller.
I now call it my "1/2" 1/2 ton".
A coworker has a 1/2" 12v drill that, as you say, will do 95% of the jobs required.
With 1/4 the strain and fatigue (not to mention the money).
Bottom line: Bigger, stronger, heavier isn't always required, therefore not always better.
You mean 1000 ppsi
Dewalt brushless is a beast. 750 ft lbs in reverse. That thing is a beast. I have the 1/2" like that. Breaks everything I ever needed
Mate, that Milwaukee will do the job if you do it right - you gotta unstake the nut first. A bigger more powerful one will do the job too, but if you unstake the nut as you're supposed to, you woudln't actually _need_ quite as big one.
Might be the other two would do it too, but I'm not familiar with them so I would just be guessing. The 3rd one with the big battery I guess would do the trick, there *ARE* significant differences in torque capacity between small 1.0-2.0 Ah batteries with only a single 18-20 volt cell bank, and 4+Ah batteries with multiple banks in parallel. The smaller batteries simply can't deliver enough current to maximize the motors potential. It might do fine for a sub 2-250 newtonmeter impact, but anything much beyond that you need multiple banks. This is why you never see 275+nm impact wrenches sold with the small batteries, even though they could squeeze the sales price down further; It's almost always a 5Ah battery or larger. Because the small batteries can't make the machine perform anywhere near as advertised.
That said, if you can only have one, or need one to start with, I agree. Get the most powerful one you can afford. And ffs don't get the small batteries if buying that separately.
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@@singlecams How about you google "removing axle nut" before going through all that, and crapping on the tools. You ARE doing it wrong - a properly mounted axle nut *_is intentionally designed NOT to come off that way._*
Unstake the nut first. Then it may come off with the compact. But frankly, if specifically for though ones like axle nuts and crankshaft bolts, the mid-torque M18 or any other impact wrench of similar caliber and torque, is more suitable. If its rusted, the M12 regular compact and others of similar torque are probably gonna be out of their depth.
If you're looking for compact, I'd rather suggest the Milwaukee 1/2" stubby. It's about 350nm, will do 90-95% of auto bolts, and it's *really* short. Like shorter than most air impacts. I'm sure Dewalt, Makita etc will offer a similar design eventually, but for now AFAIK only Milwaukee does a proper stubby impact over 200nm.
At the end of the day brands are irrelevant, what matters is that the tool does the job you need it for and that you can afford it. But no tool can compensate for doing the job incorrectly.
@@pr0xZen If you need to "google" how to "remove an axle nut" then it is best to stick with whatever instructions you can find. You can clearly see a mid torque is not suitable for remove axle nuts in this video ruclips.net/video/ELqqJe8ajc8/видео.html even UNSTAKED nuts...to tell people otherwise is misleading.
Look like the Nuts stopper are still intact, better to open the stopper, and apply WD40. All this impact drive are look strong.
You are right first three attempts nut stopper was not opened, thats why the first three could not even shake the nut.
Totally agree! I use a DeWalt brushless one and it is a brilliant machine. It shrugs off hard daily use and has never let me down. You will not regret buying one- don't waste your hard earned money on lesser machines!
What are you trying to say? I use Milwaukee with 1400 ft/lb. Rips everything
Makita forever!
Milwaukee have the best impact wrenches, it's not even debatable at this point
Izek Shteinberg what you working on that needs 1400 ft ld!? Won't be swapping my DeWalt for a Milwaukee anytime soon, not come across a nut it can't undo!
Heat flame and a torque wrench bar works for me.
Un-staking the axle nut helps too!
I love my m18 1/2" impact wrench. Taken off everything I needed, can't imagine how much power the fuel high torque has
It has all you'll ever need. Unless you do trucks and buses, machines, heavy construction and industry etc. Then you'll run into a few you need a proper two-hander for. And at that scale, air or mains power is usually more prevalent. You don't get a one-machine-for-everything if you need that kind of impact torque (2500nm and up). Nor would you want to - not only are they usually 20-30 pounds and more, but you're looking at 1" sockets or bigger. At that point you really don't wanna have to get large sets of small sizes, it easily becomes more expensive thsn having 2-3 different impact wrenches instead.
I got me the 1/2. 2767 M18 FUEL high torque impact after seeing what it does when I stared working in water treatment plants. I love it
I own DeWalt Impact Xp 20v. It is amazing and has intense torque.
I think I get his message if you're going to be working on things bigger than say your average car or light duty truck. Go with the high torque but still I would have liked to seen the comparison with high torque wrench versus the other high torque offerings from the other makers. But overall still a good video and good information on what wrenches can take off what bolts. 🔧👍
No expert but it seems like a DeWalt has a much bigger unit so I'm assuming has more torque?
Yes the dewalt has more torque but the point of the video is to show you to buy a bigger more powerful impact than a smaller one first because of tight bolts like the axle nut or other bolts
I have used my brushless ridgid to removed an axle nut so i dont know what happened in this video. My were just as rusted and hard to removed. Tried first time didnt move so blasted with some lubrication and then came off second time. The ridgid removes upto 450 foot pounds.
I believe the ridged helped lessen the nut then the de Walt just finished the job
I'm a Milwaukee and now Ridgid user. I've already picked up the New high torque 1/2 and looking at picking a midtorque aswell. I was lucky enough to pick up a bunch of new Octane 3.0's aswell to complement both tools and get the most power out of them. I understand this vid was made before the Octane batteries came out, but I enjoy watching your real world content. We all know the true power comes out with the 21700 cells in the Octane 3. I believe a new Ridgid 8.0 with true 21700's is coming this year so that be cool. I have most of the new M18 Gen 1 and Gen 2 impacts, but since Ridgid will be de-tuning their new impacts this year I'm picking some up before these older models are gone. I did see some users bashing your video, but they are not as informed SMH. Looking forward to seeing this wrench again when you pick up that new 8.0 21700 battery 🤣👍
Check out latest video lots of ridgid clips
@@singlecams link please I don't see anything ridgid on your channel for a while unless I'm missing something? Thanks
@@johnny4713ify just watch the newest video!
@@singlecams I thought it was for a socket only review, but I see you were going buck wild with all kinds of impacts with some Ridgid's 🤣👍. Thanks
So you use the Rigid’s, and Milwaukee 600-800 ft-lb’s compared to a Dewalt XR 1,000 ft-lb’s. You should use the Milwaukee 60 volt 1/2” impact. You would make the vehicle drive forward.
the other three might have broken the nut seal first though...ever thought of that ...
You should use Milwaukee M18 FMTIWP12 to compare products. Torque value of the product you compare is 300nm 24 bite of the nut you are trying to remove.
Whats the deal with the Makita ripoff?
220 ish tq. Can be found on wish. Brushless. 30 bucks. Uses makita batteries. All forged internals. Tear down can be found on boltr fake makita
I like how the Milwaukee was the only one with a 2.0 ah battery
James Quinn had to make it fair
Rigged as fuck
@Bobsyouruncle Wilson that wasn't my train of thought actually. I've seen a video where he put a Makita with a 5ah battery against a Milwaukee with a 2 ah and it was neck and neck until he slapped the bigger battery on the Milwaukee. That led me to believe that the bigger battery actually helped supply more power to the tool at one time than the smaller battery. Almost like a cars throttle being let open to allow more air into the engine thus creating more power
@Bobsyouruncle Wilson cool story bro
What a bunch of idiots milwaukee didnt do it who really cares
My dewalt broke after a year, I use milwaukee now...3 years strong..I am not comparing , only my experience
Ramiro Banda my dewalt still breaking loose axle nuts and cranshaft bolts easy still works like new but has lot of wears
So you unstaked the axle nut for the dewilt so it'll "win". 🙄🙄
Not really a way to compare impact wrenches of different ft lbs ratings and an axel nut out at 220lbs would be a miracle
Look at the time stamp 2: 53 the Ridgid is running in the reverse Direction
I use the compact Milwaukee with either a 5.0 or 6.0 and it takes axle nuts easy but to be honest I think you are right get the one with most power and then work your way back the only think it’s people got it remember it’s don’t break any small fasteners
This video also proves that people cannot read and understand anything.
I started with an Ingersol Rand and love it. Then I got an Earthquake and use it to rip off anything that needs to be taken off (1200 ft lbs). So yeah, keep them tools. I’m happy with mine
It depends on the job and what you do for me i got the kobalt 1/2 and had no problem with head bolts but again it depends on what you do and what you have to spend
Point taken I suppose - however it should be obvious that the first 3 are going to loosen up the rust bond before you put the forth one on.
The last one is a much more powerful impact wrench 1200ft-lbs of torque vs the rest with 200-400. If you watch the latest video you will see the difference on multiple different axle nuts.
Ingersoll-Rand...Have you tried?
Previous attempts from other impact tool had helped loosen the big nut...
I have a facom wich kind of is a dewalt
loads of torque but It's very heavy.
sure, you won't find anything that it can't take off, but a smaller one in addition certainly is needed, especially for lugnuts and all that routine stuff
The dewalt is a nice impact but I still would take the Milwaukee any day . There warranty can’t be beat . Great vid cheers
So you compare all the impact guns at different battery amp, try putting 6amp battery on the ridge and im sure it'll work... Cuz I have also the ridge genx5 with 6amp battery and it dose what I need on rusted car parts.. still cheaper then the DeWalt also...
Not really surprised all them except the dewalt are mid torque impacts, I’m hoping ridgid will come out with a high torque soon
I have Milwaukee and never had any problems like i have with ridgid or dewalt
Ridgid is garbage
Having read many of the comments what would you recommend for changing lawn mower blades on a regular basis. It's 15/16 inch on a gravely 60" at least one machine a day I have 5 mowers.
I see this is an older video so this may not have been true 2 years ago, but this approach is even better now, right? _Because_ now the high torque impacts also have several modes, like 1-3 and auto. So a Ridgid R86211beast will do the tougher jobs, but can also be dialled down for lighter work. Would that actually work? Mine is still in the mail so I can’t experiment yet!
I have the milwaukee 2864 if you think dewalt its a beast
Try using the DeWalt first, the results would be different. I use a breaker bar first, then you use whatever to finish the job. No nonsense in my case. By the way, had a DeWalt and sold it; nothing beats a breaker bar.
Real fair test the highest torque dewalt against the smaller impacts from other sites
You didn't unstake the axle nut
Right, so he can't be able to loose the nut, even with an expensive and well known tool ;) !
Need the high torque milwaukee..
Needs to UN-STAKE the axle nut before trying to remove it!
More wining about mulwaukee
Definitely the wrong Milwaukee like hitman DZ said try a 2763 Milwaukee version
2767 pussy. It's better
Not the point of the video...
Just by going off the comments it seems people do not watch the whole video. Agree 100% with you at the end.
why do you go back and forth ,reverse and it will take a bit since its freezing out.
if you need a cordless impact wrench that will not break the bank go with the RIDGID 18v octane for $150 battery included and it has 450ft-lbs tightening torque and 650ft-lbs nut-busting torque. if money is no issue and you work on vehicles/farm equipment daily buy the DeWalt max xr 20v runs $400 with battery and charger.
Penetrating fluid would work better for that rust than just using a impact. Spray it give it a couple of seconds or a min then hit it with impact. Work smarter not harder!!
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You know what would work? UN-STAKING the axle nut FIRST!
@@tonybucca5667 You don't have to unstake nuts not staked over threads. Stop posting nonsense Tony.
@@singlecams How do you know what I do? I'm a motorcyle mechanic over 50 years...I KNOW to pop a staked axle nut.
@@tonybucca5667 Obviously you havent learned anything in 50 years. Ask yourself what is the purpose of a cotter pin, safetywire or staking and you will learn something today.
Great real time video man!
Impacts are going to vary for everyone. If you live in cali then even a ryobi 300 pound feet tourue 1/2inch will do. But if you live somewhere with tons of road salt and rain then the rust will make it so that you might need 1200 pound feet of tourque milwaukee 3/4 inch. Use what works for you. But generally (for lug nuts and axle nuts) bugger is better
Besides obvious size differences of tool, using a 4ah battery also changes the test. Put a 4ah on all
Makes no difference if you watch the latest video.
So, I am currently a student for auto mechanics. I own the exact Rigid he used. And mine takes axle nuts off of Ford F250's and 350's just fine. So I don't know what the hell he is talking about. Plus if you drop a Dewalt from 4 feet the damn things never work the same way again
I Strongly believe the first three guns did significant work to make the DeWalt's easier... We can see that.
Don't think so ruclips.net/video/bmFiFgAtUpM/видео.html
The dewalt is a high range impact wrench the other three are mid range totally different tork ratings and price
Lol, that's the whole point he's making in the video and he even says it at the end. But I guess you think you're making a point.
Bet the Ryobi p262 1/2 impact wouldn't have a problem that things a beast
Next time use some PB Blaster and heat it up with a torch, then use the impact. Would have came off the 2nd try
Next time, UN-STAKE the axle nut first!
Trying to figure out what ur saying, lol right tool for the right job. Doesn't mean others are bad smdh😔 but use what u need for ur job and make sure its alittle over power for the job ur doing and you will be fine. Bring 3/8 to a 1/4, bring 1/2 to a 3/8 party lol. Just don't use them to tighten 😉
To use an impact wrench properly you have to push on it's back too. The smaller ones even the no name China one work if you push/lean with the other hand on the backside of the unit
Well yea when you got to the right size impact, it worked. The little ones are for body work, small jobs.
Deveria após ter tirado o primeiro, ir para a outra roda pra confirmar a potência da máquina, a porca estava praticamente solta depois de ter recebido o impacto das primeiras tentativas.
At the price point of the big battery ones, you could go air for a lot cheaper.
That rigid needs one of their octane batteries it's been tested and shown on other channels when you put an octane battery on it has a lot more power.
Haven't you ever heard of pb blaster
Dan Huff better yet ..CRC FREEZE OFF is da shit!
Ever hear of UN-STAKING the axle nut?
Joe Arvelo I heard that was the new shit now too
Ridgid all day every day!!!
Uses little Milwaukee and 2 amp battary.
Yup!
He should have used a 5ah battery on that Milwaukee it would have took it off
Bigger battery wpuldnt of made a difference
Yea after the other three did the heavy work. Dewalt poo 💩
Dewalt is a black & decker just painted yellow
Poh
I like medium electric impacts for general work, for nuts from hell I pick heavy air impact wrench
If this video stopped cutting away from the axle nut to get different tools I would say its good video but how do we know its not set up ,next time put camera on stand so its always filming have all tools set out in front off the camera then re do it so we can see fair comparison
That's a high torque dewalt compared to low torque impacts, not even same class you should do all high torques
The comparison was *"size* of impact wrench", not brands.
That said, he Ideally should have given them all 4-5Ah, multi-bank batteries. That really matters for high-current tools lile impact wrenches.
And unstaked that nut.
pr0xZen Milwaukee has a mid-torque that is roughly the same size as the DeWalt and Rigid 🤔 What’s funny is Milwaukee m12 stubby make more torque than the m18 he’s using in this video 🤦♂️
@@ranthepartsman6455 True. But this doesn't look like a sponsored or high-viewcount video. If he already have all those wrenches featured, it make little sense to get the M12 stubby just for this video, and he likely doesn't need one (else he'd likely already have one in his collection).
I'm hoping Milwaukee will do an M18 stubby soon - a 650-800nm ish 1/2" one. The big 14-1500 bastard does "everything" but it's stupidly heavy and, well, big n bulky. Once you start needing to stack on extensions and joints, the effective torque at the socket plummits. Fast n hard. And the current stubby flies a couple hundred newtonmeters lower than needed for the rusted suspension parts I'd love to use it on.
Don't get me wrong. I love the big red bertha. It's just far too big, heavy, fatiguing for a go-to/daily driver. IM(P)O the ultimate compromise would be a 1/2" friction ring M18 brushless (moar power possible in shorter assembly design) *stubby,* putting out 650-800 nm. That effectively replaces the need for air impacts in tight spaces for me. The big bertha IMO, while the OneKey ones have quite capable torque control, is closer to a replacement for a two-hander. It's _not meant_ to be a spannermonkey sidearm.
Oh and it shears and strips mid-size bolts like crazy if you forget to calm her down again after having to rub her full chooch -button on something 😅
Thats the point and the battery size would make a difference
You're using the wrong Milwaukee gun, as well as the others, if youre trying to make a fair comparison to the dewalt
My gen3 Milwaukee will pull it really fast.
He's not comparing same "weightclass" between different brands, he's comparing (roughly) different "sizes" of impacts. It's not perfect, bit a very valid comparison. That big-ass dewalt is great, so is its direct competitors. But if you veeery rarely need that mega level of impact torque, having something shorter and lighter is a VERY big advantage. Especially if you use it a lot, use it overhead etc. Got the monster Milwaukee - and while it's a beast and awesome, it's stupidly heavy for a daily driver.
I've seen Milwaukee m18 take off axel nuts
Using a low battery output it's a 2.0 he should I use a bigger battery
My m18 gen3 Milwaukee will pull it.
Have you tried the Kobalt for $199. supposedly reporting 650 foot lbs. of torque
If you looking guys 1:39 minutes, he has with nut, he is got notch there, that means hard for take off hut.
Clickbait.
Hardly a comparison. 3 small impact drivers vs 1 large rattle gun. Not even in the same category.
The rigid is equivalent to the dewalt. I have the same gun, shes a beast. Not the strongest on the market, but a lot of bang for the buck and the auto tightening feature is nice. Ive gotten axle nuts off with mine too.
That's LITERALLY the point of the video. It's a size comparison.
What would have been the difference if he had UN-STAKED the axle nut?
Earthquake xt by harbor freight. $269 has 1200lbft of torque. I'm a truck mechanic and I use it all day long. It works so good i have other mechanics snatching it! Lol
Uhhhm... You're supposed to un-dent the locking part of the nut before spinning them off.... Lol... Of course none of the lower torque guns would spin that off.
Watch the 2nd newest video uploaded. An Amazon $50 impact removed a dented axle nut. Then it removed a Honda crank bolt.
@@singlecams but you should understand that it needs to be bent out so it's not pressed into the slot before you try cracking it
@@Alexander_l322 you do not have to bend it out if you watch the impact videos on this channel....only noobs bend out the tab...the tab does not stop the nut from getting loose only from coming off...just like a cotter pin
That's what I was just saying! I even went back and took a second look. ;) Ha!
@@nicholaswiles2792 watch the video pinned at the top u do not have to unstake it only noobs do that.
I would spend my hard earned money on Makita.
None of that crap..
Rigid is gonna be on top soon. They have the best warranty, and the most amount of different tools as a company.
@@seasgarage and i use a tone of them lol. Never a issue since 08' just 4 batteries and a trigger for one impact lol.
Im a Carpenter, also use at home for my vehicles and projects 👍
Prefer a handy-sized Makita(still 1/2") that I can use around and under my car for 90% of jobs. The two occasions that I've needed anything bigger, I've hired one for the day.
I hate the idea of having a really expensive piece of kit that I can rarely use.
from my personal experience the ridgid impact and milwaukee impact are the best hands down and yes there both owned by the same company tti
Good video. I agree to get a high torque one first. 👍🏻
Yep dewalt its shit
If his doing it on the same one than how do u know which one is exactly stronger if maybe the first and second one might have already loosen it little at time with different ones js
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Will and it would help if he would take and unbend where they bend it into the groove!all you have to do is hit it a couple times. What a waste of time I would have had it off the first try with 1/2 inch drive ratchet.
This is a easy fix on the half inch drive impacts with Milwaukee fuel and Ridgid and this huge badass top rated big battery XR impact lol I got a gen 5 x brushless Ridgid impact and it is now one of the smallest ones out and id by far the strongest regular impact all u have to do is get the octane batteries in 3mah or 6 or 9 OCTANE. I have the 3mah octane batteries and it would crank that off just as easy or maybe faster than that desalt lol the gen 5 x or never or even octane models r made to get double the power and runtime just by having the octane batteries believe me it’s hard to keep up with all the battery upgrades but it’s the real deal
Also what are the ft lb torque specs on each?
All I know is that the dewalt is 700 tightening and 1200 breakaway
I cant help to notice that the camera was filming straight thru out the first 3 impacts, but after the rigid test there was a scene skip, 🤔 kind of suspicious.
It can rip it off no problem
hey man! what model ridgid is that?! im hoping its not the R86011. i wanted to get that one but with a 6AH battery. thank you in advance
If you would have got a screwdriver and popped the tab up on the axle nut to where it could turn freely the first impact could have worked! The reason it’s indented is for it not to turn!
And why is that?
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