ULTIMATE STRAT BOMBER guide for HOI4
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Unleash the might of strategic bombers in Hearts of Iron IV with our comprehensive guide! Dive into the world of aerial dominance as we explore the incredible power and potential of strat bombers. Learn how to effectively utilize these airborne juggernauts to turn the tide of war in your favor, raining destruction upon your enemies with pinpoint precision. From disrupting supply lines to crippling infrastructure, discover why strategic bombers are the ultimate game-changer on the battlefield. Join us as we delve into the strategies and tactics that make these aerial behemoths truly unstoppable. Don't miss out on mastering this game-changing aspect of Hearts of Iron IV
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00:00 Intro
00:14 1936 strategic bomber
03:43 1938 strategic bomber
08:28 1940 strategic bomber
12:33 1944 strategic bomber
16:53 Air force advisors
17:56 Doctrine
19:34 Officer corps
21:03 M.I.O's
23:41 Bonus! Radar & Extra info
28:17 Final thoughts
28:41 Outro
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--TIMESTAMPS--
00:00 Intro
00:14 1936 strategic bomber
03:43 1938 strategic bomber
08:28 1940 strategic bomber
12:33 1944 strategic bomber
16:53 Air force advisors
17:56 Doctrine
19:34 Officer corps
21:03 M.I.O's
23:41 Bonus! Radar & Extra info
28:17 Final thoughts
28:41 Outro
Pls use them, love you
My wife and I are watching Masters of the Air right now and you couldn't pay me enough to get in one of those death traps. One of the most deadly positions in the US military during WW2
I don’t disagree but also note that the show way over blows how bullets are in the air.
@@tylehh120 how so
The term "critical mass" comes from the Manhattan Project. It is the minimum amount of fissile material needed to creation a self-sustaining reaction (the nuclear explosion part). Strategy games just took the term for themselves.
the best part of feedback videos is when he explains something from history incorrectly, yet confidently
More you know
For the navigation, air to ground radar, and bomb sight you can add those all onto your night bomber.
You can have night bombers that will run into fewer fighters and thus need less air defense (unless the enemy is a human making night fighters) and you can have day bombers with lots of air defense.
The US focused on day bombers in WWII and the UK focused on night bombers. This was a coordination to keep round the clock bombing on Germany.
I've tested the night bomber strat and its not very effective because they're only bombing half of the day you end up hitting 50% less targets which defeats the whole purpose of making the big bombers
@@FeedbackIRL Then make a day bomber and a night bomber. Put the daylight ones on day and the night ones on night. It works for me. It only costs a tiny amount of air XP to make the two different models and you can put say 25 mils on each.
Daylight fighters have a huge debuff at night and the AI and human players rarely make night fighters. The cheap electronics modules I end up researching for other reasons reduces the night penalty to strat bombing by 60%.
Daylight bombers can have tons of air defense and guns with one bomb bay while night bombers have air to ground radar, nav II, bombsights, and many bomb bays. This is pretty much how it happened in real life with the US having the flying fortresses and much smaller bomb bays while the British had much larger bomb bays, relatively less defensive armament, and bombers designed for night bombing.
A high defense daylight bomber design like you show in the video is doing very little bombing at night and the defense is overkill during the night.
If you really want to draw enemy fighters out during the day then make 75% of the strat bombers daylight bombers and 25% night bombers. You can put the daylight ones on both daylight bombing and night bombing if you want.
The night penalty to strat bombing is 50%. However, with the night air doctrine path and a 60% reduction the night penalty is mostly gone. If you can put up night bombers with 3 bomb bays instead of 1 and cheap and light electronics modules instead of so many defense modules you can make them quite reasonable and effective.
I thought the goal was to cause as much damage to the enemy as possible and overwhelm their air force. I do not see how this does not achieve it. Night bombers will lose way less to fighters, and they can have more bombs per unit IC. Day bombers will draw out more of the enemy air force. Really if Paradox was doing it accurately any single strat bomber should only fly ONE mission per day. No strat bomber in real life is going to fly a high-risk WWII style bombing run twice a day. The bombers need maintenance and a look over after each mission and the crews need a rest.
I'm not sure you "tested" this well enough as it definitely works well in single player or maybe there is something min/max in multiplayer that's messed up with HOI4 that causes night bombing to not work.
BTW I generally play minors like Peru, Afghanistan, etc as anything bigger is way too easy for me against the AI so maybe the AI just makes night bombing practical.
Regarding engines.
You always want the best engine and you always want as few engines as possible. Engines usually are about 60-80% of the cost of the plane, light planes with one engine have the smallest fraction, arge planes have a larger fraction. Mostly you can successfully design a useful plane with 1-2-4 engines depending on hull. You always want to upgrade your engines to the highest tier since higher tier engines give alot of speed and speed kills in this game. Every 100 kp/h increases your damage by 2.5%, so a 600 kp/h plane does 15% extra damage. Furthermore, any speed advantage gives 65% extra damage, so if you go twice as fast you do 65% extra damage. If enemy fighters are going 600 and you are going 300 they are doing 80% extra damage to you. That 3xquad heavy machine gun fighter is getting 9 extra heavy machine guns to add to iit's 12 just from speed.
1. Keep your engines as few as possible to save cost
2. Always use the best engine
100%. Engines first then chassis's. No point having module slots when you can't fill them
@@FeedbackIRL As you go up chassis size your speed and agility also fall.
The range is the only reason i build heavy fighters.
Heavy fighers is next
15,000 views are not even 800 people liked it. One of the most underrated channels out there so glad I found it. He helped me out so much in hoi.
Hey Dave can you go over the oddball planes like the Heavy Airframe Naval Bomber and updates to Scout Planes?
Sure!
even when i'm taking a break from hoi4 i always watch your vids. as always, great stuff captain!
Lad
Close to 5000 hours in game yet I was today years old when I learned you can click to permanently show the mission stat effects instead of just hovering over them and memorizing
Its a fairly new addition. No sweat ;)
What do you mean
@@SangoProductions213 in the plane designer there are some stats that you can only see when you specify which mission the plane will be flying in. So for CAS it doesn’t show ground attack on the stat card unless you hover your mouse over the ground support mission. I learned three weeks ago that you don’t have to hover your cursor over the mission, you can just click it and it will stay highlighted
I apologize for how bad I am at explaining things lol
Good video! One thing that you seemed to have have glanced over, is the night-penalty reduction by the radars. Radio navigation II gives a -20% penalty by default (which I use on almost all of my aircraft), and the air-ground radar for a -40% reduction when strat bombing, for a total of -60%! That's an even bigger bonus than the left doctrine path :)
I've tested the night bomber strat and its very effective because they're only bombing half of the day you end up hitting 50% less targets which defeats the whole purpose of making the big bombers
Could have added a segment for heavy naval bomber. Pretty strong especially in the pacific cause you get crazy range and only 10 plane groups instead of 100 so you can spread them out well.
Also they spot and destroy they are much better then navy
You know what would be really cool? If the focus of the range radius of your planes was centered on the airbase they’re stationed in
(0:59 case in point, the planes in western virginia don’t have the range to fly in Tennessee)
TRUEEE
It's not technically different for strat bombers afaik, but fighters/CAS usually get drop tanks which don't reduce ag.
Good strats
Thanks bud
if i take Boeing as the MIO do the doors fall off and add the strat bombing damage
Before DEI
Extra damage. Can't complain ;)
It’s early in the video for me, but I’m having a small seizure from him not noticing that he’s comparing 1 heavy MG turret vs 2 *LIGHT* MG turrets
11:07 i am pretty sure extra fuel tanks have always done that. Its drop tanks which dont and they only go on smaller aircraft
I assumed worked the same way as fighters. MORE YOU KNOW
@@FeedbackIRL Small aircraft get both drop tanks and extra fuel tanks as options.
Could you do a video detailing the benefits of the various army navy and air doctrines? There's surprisingly very little on RUclips
Quick Summary
Navy
Base Strike - carriers and light cruisers
Fleet in Being - Battleships, fleet destroyers and destroyer escorts
Commerce raiding - Battlecruisers, heavy cruisers and submarines on convoy raiding
Air
Strategic Destruction - Fighters and Strat bombers. Night bombers do more damage, day bombers have more defence, superiority fighters have more air defence, interceptors more attack
Battlefield Destruction - Air Superiority fighters, Multi role cas and heavy cas. Air superiority machine guns and air defence, multi role case 1 rocket rail first and rest heavy machine guns with air defence, heavy case, little air defence much attack. Run multi role cas when the sky is contested, heavy cas when it isn't. Multi role cas are very good at righting enemy fighters due to doctrine bonuses.
Operational integrity - Air Superiority, Interceptors, Fast Bombers. Fast bombers use the -50% visibility to strat bomb specific targets e.g. ports, supply hubs. Use air superiority alongside it to maximize effectiveness. Fast bombers are meds with one bombay nav, bomb sights and air to ground radar enough range and rest air defence.
Land
Blitzkrieg - tanks or mech followed by tanks or manpower
Firepower - line or company followed by air support or artillery support
Battleplan - defensive bonuses followed by infantry attack of combined arms attack
Mass mob - defensive bonuses followed by combined arms or guerillas
I've spoke about all three in the past however never all in 1 video. Look though my older videos on IRL
@FeedbackIRL maybe you should make a definitive guide? As ive said there's remarkably little on RUclips explaining the various doctrines in anything but very vague terms
Strat bombing aces only exist in mother russia via the night witches air focus (right path)
I got 1 as USA. It happens but its super rare
I use a Torp+Recon+Big Bomb 1936 large frame with hidro+double Hmg turret+self sealing+two modules for more Strat Bomb...and Piaggio mío from Italy...With this you have Air wings of 10 , and you can PATROL , SCOUT and Light Strat Bomb (24 to 30 Strat ) , all in one design.
A little expensive for my tastes. But I imagine it works
This may be a dumb question, but if you spam good fighters, doesn't the air defence/attack of your strat bombers become meaningless? In that case, would it not be better to start producing strat bombers with lower defense right away, and only use them once your fighters have done significant damage to the enemy air force?
I feel like strat bomber, everything made from medium airframe, and navy are useless bc all of them can literally be subtitute with '4000 light airframes'.
maybe something like the 'positioning' value from navy for planes?
But, hear me out:
Atlantikbomber
From Berlin to Washington in one tank.
what plane design should you make that has the sole purpose of tactical nuking enemy divisions?
Cheapness and or range and nothing else. Plane won't be flying missions just needs in range of the tile. Only need one plane.
Any strat bomber
use the 1st bomber with no modules except non strategic materials and maybe range improvements. You can't drop a nuke unless you have air superiority, they do not need to run missions, just be on an airway until you can push the button.
Cheap cheap cheap
IMO, tactical bomber (and medium airframe in general) are better than strat bomber because they have more module option available. As USA, you could make "super naval bomber" by adding torpedoes and range so they could reach the entirerity of pacific air zones. Usually I'm only going to research up to basic large airframe after I have nukes. Also, you could get radio navs II in early 40's and I think it's better to equip radio only than both radio and bomb sight. equipped.
I am dumb so what means radio in this case?
其實看引擎的承重能力，除了防禦以外 其他幾乎都沒有效用了( 也只能裝兩個大型炸彈)
也就是升級一次做好全部了、防禦就直接拉油箱強化，基本上沒有四把機砲打不下來
畢竟是戰略轟炸，不是戰術，攻擊點是敵人的工廠，效果是相當側面的；被炸的一方往往只能用重型戰鬥機對抗、AI 不會製造 沒有對手
It would be like an Ac-130 coming in and dogfighting
Air to air CANNONS
There is one of the biggest joke about the default template of US STRAT bomber, even you have already researched all module of the plane, you still cannot use the historical defaut B-29 template :(
Critical Mass is a cycling thing.
It used to be capped at around 100 strat bombing, anything over 100 didnt do additional damage, is this still the case?
really, I never heard that. Although I dont use them much
@@willywonka6487 Source: 71cloaks vid "HOI4 BBA - How Should You Build Your Strat Bombers"
I presume thats still the case however last I heard that was 2 years ago
@@Monksy1337 thanks, that explains a test run I did. First time using strat bombers I played usa and put 1000+ of them over berlin. They did jack all or it got repaired as soon as it got damaged, either way. Never tried them since
ah strat bomber, the aircraft that is almost always being banned in multiplayer....
its banned because its just a harrasment tactic and doesnt promote fun gameplay. Its a bad strategy and easily countered overall.
Funny thing is. If the bomber strat fails the bomb maker has invested so much they're out of the game. DO OR DIE
You need them to drop nukes no?
One sad thing is that u can't protect yourself vs state aa as it just ignores air defense
Trueee. Static AA ultimate counter
Wouldn’t it make sence to have two models, one with airdefence that can bomb the aurpords and one’s there destroied and they can’t project airsuperiority you can bomb the industie with a more bombing focused plane that has less armor
Planes in a region are an average of all the planes stats
You are forgetting the SPAA and the AA
@@yamatokurusaki5790 you can also bomb out the static AA and i think the one's in the divisions don't matter
@@Spielkind104 idk i am new to this game anyway:)
What is the benefit of adding multiple bomb bays?
higher strat bombing damage
They are relatively cheap compared to the base cost of the airframe and engines, so you want to make more effective bombers as you make few of them anyway
@@yaowd8399 Does that mean more buildings damaged per unit of time?
Boieng as MIO for the added damage of falling wheels, doors and engines😂
American kamikaze
Strategic bombing @@FeedbackIRL
the most protected and armored strategic bomber in the world 🤓Vs anti air level 5 😡
Airstrip One. Orwell was right
Still going as of today
the 0.1xp per day isn't worth it 500 days to get the invested 50xp back
Pays for itsself in 365 days. So 35 army xp per year afterwards. So unless you're going at least 3 years its not worth it. FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
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Can you make a best economy guide for Victoria 2
For the algorithm
Lad
bro do your studies before come out with guids wtff strategic bombers dont need defense at all it need the modulars that increases strategic bombing and night operations because its only usable at night when nobody can spot it
bro is putting armor like crazy on strategic bombers meanwhile it wont fight at all with the enemy reduces its range by 500% then putts range modulars in a fighters where he must be putting armor
+tip use your strats to bomb radars first to blind the enemy more then AA locations to be safe then airports to limit the enemy ability to respond + it will destroy aircrafts + reduce supply to them even more after that you bomb supply hubs/ports/rails/roads to cut supply then you need to bring your shitty inf to the frontline and enjoy pushing starving enemy tanks to there capital💖
Does anyone actually use them?
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