aww derek was such a lovely character, broke my heart how childish those idiots were :( I'm glad martin does eventually do the right thing and stand up for him
Even minorities can be bigots. Just like asif was bigoted to derek so was sanjay to tony and Simon and joined in and said they should keep it to themselves. Yet a few years prior he attacked the square for not sticking up for him and gita against racist thugs. Hypocrite. Just like peggy was awful to mark because of his status but years later apologised when she got sick. People can be nasty. At least Martin did the right thing in the end. Pauline was actually bigoted to tony and Simon as well but not the pair of men in the 80s who lived together or derek
20:06 "Paying you Jews" is a hateful, stereotypical expression. EastEnders and the BBC should be reprimanded for this crack remark. This is not the first time ethnic slurs were broadcast in the UK in modern times. And it's a bad look that this prejudice is tolerated. Can someone tell me if the English pushed back on this Revolting language in December 2002?
@@MacNuada Greetings from Harlem, NYC. We don't do anti-Irish here. What are you talking about? I was the first one to object to Ben's rapist being portrayed as an Irishman.
As someone's already said ' it's paying your dues ' ur a total 🤡🤣🤣 - it means you've earned / deserve something for working hard for it or something along those lines
That Asif loser is probably one of the worst EE characters I’ve ever witnessed... pure immaturity and an awful sight on the screen. - Derrick however, was such a sweet man, and I love Mark so much. You never get characters like Mark Fowler anymore xx
Thing is, how would that Asif feel if he was being abused because of his race? It makes no sense to be a biggott when there are biggots who do the same to you.
I don’t think everyone who is a bigot can’t be from a minority, lgbtq, woman etc. And I wouldn’t say that it makes no sense for one of those people from them groups to be a bigot.
@@blackmagik6466 Well it doesent make sense to me. If you have non white coloured skin how can you think abusing someone for their sexuality is right when you obviously wouldnt like if you were being racially abused.
@@napalmslayer you could say that about anyone who abuses someone. Why would anyone want to abuse someone when they wouldn’t wanna be abused themselves. There could be list of reasons, Ego, putting someone down makes himself feel better about himself, if you say he was bullied, he may have low self esteem, bullying someone else he feels is weaker may increase his self esteem. Jealousy and loneliness, his friend would rather spend time with someone else, so he is putting derek down, so Martin chills with him asif instead He may be gay himself, and putting down derek may make people think he isn’t gay He may have been taught that homosexuality is not ethical by family, tv, friends etc. And/Or not corrected by friends family, tv, friends it’s okay.
@@blackmagik6466 Well yes of course there is the issue of homophobia in the Muslim community. I know what your saying but minority on minority bigotry will never make sense to me.
OMG! I didn't know that. I was about to comment and ask what became of the Asif character. Don't know if he's still alive and could return at some point. Obviously recast to a new actor if Ashvin Luximon is dead now. Especially seeing how Martin was recast.
@Captain Rupertikjakmos We live in a world where Donald Trump is the leader of the free world. There are DEFINITELY people out there who still think that you can "catch" gayness from someone.
They should of bring Asif back especially that episode where Martin reunited with his school friends the episode when Ruby got raped it’s unfortunate because Asif seemed like a regular now he passed away Eastenders didn’t even pay tribute to him 🤷♂️
aww derek was such a lovely character, broke my heart how childish those idiots were :( I'm glad martin does eventually do the right thing and stand up for him
little mo being gangsta on the market😎
💯
Was this soon after she was released from prison?
really wish derek had called martin a stupid boy... would have been funny to se ian lavinder get that line for a change lol
The current Martin would've battered Asif, wouldn't have taken any of that shit.
AR - 9 stfu
AR - 9 you hate James Byes Martin lol
AR - 9 what the hell you started this don’t even know the bloke
Little mo is a G !! 😎
i preferred derek being around to joe he clicked with pauline better even if they werent romantically linked i liked the companionship.
Don't tell him Pike!
Even minorities can be bigots. Just like asif was bigoted to derek so was sanjay to tony and Simon and joined in and said they should keep it to themselves. Yet a few years prior he attacked the square for not sticking up for him and gita against racist thugs. Hypocrite. Just like peggy was awful to mark because of his status but years later apologised when she got sick. People can be nasty. At least Martin did the right thing in the end. Pauline was actually bigoted to tony and Simon as well but not the pair of men in the 80s who lived together or derek
Derek was a bit full on.
He was a shirtlifter
I think the word is gay
Go kat
he was actjally soooooo hot...dunno bout you but I would ;)
So is your hairline.
20:06 "Paying you Jews" is a hateful, stereotypical expression. EastEnders and the BBC should be reprimanded for this crack remark. This is not the first time ethnic slurs were broadcast in the UK in modern times. And it's a bad look that this prejudice is tolerated. Can someone tell me if the English pushed back on this Revolting language in December 2002?
You would be fine with anti-Irish stuff so I am gonna call: bull manure.
@@MacNuada Greetings from Harlem, NYC. We don't do anti-Irish here. What are you talking about? I was the first one to object to Ben's rapist being portrayed as an Irishman.
I'm pretty sure he said "paying your dues". I think the auto captions mistranslated.
As someone's already said ' it's paying your dues ' ur a total 🤡🤣🤣 - it means you've earned / deserve something for working hard for it or something along those lines
Lisa was fit
That Asif loser is probably one of the worst EE characters I’ve ever witnessed... pure immaturity and an awful sight on the screen.
- Derrick however, was such a sweet man, and I love Mark so much. You never get characters like Mark Fowler anymore xx
According to the 2003 episode he was a straight A grade A level student so Martin is more of a loser than him
Thing is, how would that Asif feel if he was being abused because of his race? It makes no sense to be a biggott when there are biggots who do the same to you.
I don’t think everyone who is a bigot can’t be from a minority, lgbtq, woman etc. And I wouldn’t say that it makes no sense for one of those people from them groups to be a bigot.
@@blackmagik6466 Well it doesent make sense to me. If you have non white coloured skin how can you think abusing someone for their sexuality is right when you obviously wouldnt like if you were being racially abused.
@@napalmslayer you could say that about anyone who abuses someone. Why would anyone want to abuse someone when they wouldn’t wanna be abused themselves.
There could be list of reasons,
Ego, putting someone down makes himself feel better about himself, if you say he was bullied, he may have low self esteem, bullying someone else he feels is weaker may increase his self esteem.
Jealousy and loneliness, his friend would rather spend time with someone else, so he is putting derek down, so Martin chills with him asif instead
He may be gay himself, and putting down derek may make people think he isn’t gay
He may have been taught that homosexuality is not ethical by family, tv, friends etc. And/Or not corrected by friends family, tv, friends it’s okay.
@@blackmagik6466 Well yes of course there is the issue of homophobia in the Muslim community. I know what your saying but minority on minority bigotry will never make sense to me.
@@napalmslayer lol it probably doesn’t make sense to homophobes and racists which aren’t from minorities
Can't belive the guy who played Asif is dead already.
OMG! I didn't know that. I was about to comment and ask what became of the Asif character. Don't know if he's still alive and could return at some point. Obviously recast to a new actor if Ashvin Luximon is dead now. Especially seeing how Martin was recast.
was every car in 2002 500 years old?
Good looking boy
Imagine how hard it would be for anbody learning in a lada riva would be like moving a tank
That GF of Martin, Allison's real name is impossible to find, does anyone know her name ?
Sarah French
Her name is split arse.
did mark fowler pass away?? he was a good charactor
Yeah, he ended up developing either cancer or leukemia on top of his HIV.
He died due to altercations of AIDS
But Martin isn't gay
Tell that to Ignorant people who still think you can "Catch Gay"".
@Captain Rupertikjakmos You'd be surprised. People with their ingrained prejudices which they've inherited.
@@Hulk2k6 what r u talking about Moran?
@@jeromestarrick2288 LOL "Moran". I'm just pointing out some people have fucked mindsets when it comes to the gays.
@Captain Rupertikjakmos We live in a world where Donald Trump is the leader of the free world. There are DEFINITELY people out there who still think that you can "catch" gayness from someone.
Kat go and find yourself a slot machine lol
I hated that asif character, I can remember hoping someone would spark him out..
They should of bring Asif back especially that episode where Martin reunited with his school friends the episode when Ruby got raped it’s unfortunate because Asif seemed like a regular now he passed away Eastenders didn’t even pay tribute to him 🤷♂️
What has he died really?
@@nickyjones2709 Yea, Ashvin Luximon died from aneurysm only a year ago 2022 aged 38
What happen to his best friend Asif
?
he died in real life
@@antwto8784 just googled that. Poor guy
@@antwto8784 noooo 😢😢
@@antwto8784 Yeah, don't know what happened to the character though. Could easily return recast to a new actor.
That's it give it a good yank. No martin I mean the gear stick. Look behind. No not my ass the window
😂😂😂😂
Seriouse the bullies on the street piking pn deeerek need to grow ip
Are you dyslexic
13:23
Asifs moobs
couldn’t stand that asif character 😠
what martun used to be gay 😱
Nope, he just happened to SEEN with an old gay man and his mates gave him stick for it.
What do you call a good looking Asian ..?
If you want my come back you’ll have to scrape it off your mums teeth
@@ashvinluximon2856 😂😂😂
asif really actor real life rip has passed away
@@TheDarrenguyuk so sad so young too he was brilliant so funny him and Martin always getting into mischief
A good looking Asian.
Didn't Martin once run somebody over?
Yeah, Jamie. This all lead up to it....
@@Hulk2k6 Yeah, those driving lessons really didn't pay off very well...
He’s done it twice now, one more would probably put him behind bars
@@d4rk_matrix I didn't think he was driving the second time it was Ben's wannabe gangster mate
@@davidmernick7360 😂😂
Brits are that immature?
Maybe Asif is the lady boy and wants to be the only gay in the village.