I’d like to say thanks for all the suspension tech. Explaining shock valve adjusting to obtain proper separation has helped me get my friends cos hooking hard.
Nice video. I use a positive stop instead of a dial indicator to find top dead center, because you will have some crankshaft travel at top dead center, so the dial indicator will show 0 as the crankshaft rotates . Could be equal to a degree or so difference.
I had a slug of heavy metal (mallory) fall out of the crankshaft.....Lucky no damage as it fell directly into the oil pan.........No noticable increase in vibration ....
Never seen mains torqued from the end always center out towards ends. Just had pistons coated to & added 3 thou, check your piston to bore clearance I had to hone
Was noticing that you installed the Head Studs and then put the heads on. Was always told if you can just install a stud or 2 in Block then install Heads, to prevent the threads of the Head Studs from gouging up the Aluminum while Head is being installed, then install the rest of the Studs after Head is on. I guess it doesn't make much difference, as long as your careful while you're sliding Head over Studs. By the way that's a very nice piece, "The Aluminum SBF Block"
Honestly, I don't really care much for southern accents, but I subbed before you started showing the engine. There's a lot of engine channels on youtube, but a lot of douches too. You automatically have that vibe that makes others wanna sit down, have a beer and talk cars with. Very neighborly and humble.
Yeah, you should ALWAYS degree your camshaft when installing too, like John Always checks, i watched a few of your videos, i noticed you don't check your camshaft when installing. You should ALWAYS check that especially on a race engine. You didn't even check it when you got that Shaffiraf Short Block, i know i spelled his name wrong. Should ALWAYS Atleast check one cylinder.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 hell, dot to dot, be done with them cams! Lol. But yea, on an all out,(expensive) race engine you should degree them, but a little street/strip engine dot to dot has never let me down. Well I shouldn't say that, in my younger year's cams weren't ground with advance already in them or as precise as they are now so did run into problems back then.
They are only used where the ring package is moved up to accomodate a longer connecting rod. (Where the oil ring groove interferes with the wrist pin retainer groove and a proper groove can not be made.) Like an extreme stroker/long rod motor.
sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account..? I somehow forgot my account password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me!
John, I know this was a while back, and for some reason I hadn't seen it. But was the crank, rod's, pistons balanced? I noticed when you were installing the rod's and piston's there was a number on them. I haven't ever built a aluminum short block yet and would love too, just to do the math lol. Thanks for the video. Glad to see you got yr new aluminum block engine going well. It always takes a min to get all the bugs worked out. If I ever built one n something didn't happen, I prob would be a lil worried🤣
He’s trying to say he likes modular motors but being as this one isn’t,… it’s still damn nice with nice internals. Come on man. Context!! Not hard. Everyone so quick to be negative or a smart arse!!
That is so cool, you guy's helping each other out! I wish I had a friend who'd help me out with my engine(s)! One that actually knows what he's doing and willing to spend the time to help!
Damit, John...... I have a Vortex 7.4 (454) that I acquired a few yrs back that is just calling my name now. I have got to stop watching these videos. LoL. Cool stuff brother. Can't wait to hear it fire up.
God no, i doubt they are used anymore unless its an endurance motor running long high rpm runs. I havent seen any used since i trashed those old 69 351 heads years ago
What SBF block is that or derived from? For a moment I was thinking them heads is BBF. But, I remembered this is a SBF build. Them heads are huge. Are they Australian? They don’t mess around down under when it comes to SBF heads.
What a badass build love that aluminum block and roller thrust setup !!! And Next time you deal with spiral locks pull them open a bit helps a lot I use small flat head to push them in I really hate the ones that require 4 per piston lol
.460" lobe lift is surprisingly small, but then we don't know the rocker ratio, which could be 1.6 like a stock SBF, or it could be 2.0:1 or possibly more. Would be interesting to know.
Completely off topic but there's alot of chainsaws under those benches whats model is that old poulan lol ? It's a hobby of mine hot rodding saws,but anyways nice seeing you but a ford together ❤
2,500hp with 4 bolt oem main cap "bolts"? Not in our shop, this step is what determines wheather its an engine that's intended to grenade and transform into shrapnel, or one that's going to keep together under that kind of power output, in which case we would use a set of beefed up ARP main studs, and a stud girdle slash windage baffle and the same goes for the heads, with the deck and head gasket surfaces improved, a groove cut into the deck mating surfaces around the combustion chamber for head gasket O rings, and carefully chamfer all the tapped holes to minimize surface distortion on matting surfaces maintaining solid contact between nuts caps and block.
Great content,,,,👍 Quick question,,,,do u work on any motor for example if I give u a 2.5 v6 ltr engine,,wats the maximum horsepower I'm looking forward on gett'n out wen u tweak it & at wat cost 🙄 Lastly wat state r u in ????
what break are you looking at? what time in the vid? There is a joint between each cylinders where the receiver grooves are cut because you only have so much room to fit the hoops if that's what you mean.
@@rjones2000r It might look strange between the cylinders but the groove is cut all the way down to the lowest point between each cylinder, again there is only so much room to fit two hoops next to each other between the cylinders so the grooves meet there so there is no border between the grooves as its totally cut out, but when the copper gasket is crushed there is still a complete sealed circle of the hoop around each cylinder.
Sure. My engine room is clean and my magnetic base doesn't have saw dust on it. You should come by and I could teach you how to use a bolt stretch gauge. I'd be scared to run that one with the boost intended with the lack of detail used. That engine deserves better.
While Ford numbers their pistons differently than Chevy, with the firing order they use the actual firing order of the pistons in the block is the exact same as Chevy.
Thank you for the Ford stuff.
STUFF IS QUITE RIGHT…LOL !
Nice to see someone racing something besides a LS!
And one other thing is the 7.3 Godzilla is a LS killer for sure 👍🏾👍🏾
@@David-yy7lb Nah.
@@David-yy7lb hell no. Good luck finding one in a junkyard for 400 bucks lol
@@David-yy7lb My 4.8L LS has blown away more than one Crapzilla! lol
LS suck
Found your channel watching street racing channel and I’m not disappointed! Great content!!
"What's inside a 2500hp motor?" A ton of boost!!!!
Please post a video with information on the cylinder heads there on this engine
I’d like to say thanks for all the suspension tech. Explaining shock valve adjusting to obtain proper separation has helped me get my friends cos hooking hard.
Nice video. I use a positive stop instead of a dial indicator to find top dead center, because you will have some crankshaft travel at top dead center, so the dial indicator will show 0 as the crankshaft rotates . Could be equal to a degree or so difference.
@DropDstar 2 degrees at 2000 horsepower could be a lot.
I had a slug of heavy metal (mallory) fall out of the crankshaft.....Lucky no damage as it fell directly into the oil pan.........No noticable increase in vibration ....
Great tech video, those Jesel rocker systems are fantastic.
The crank sure looked mean.
Take Care and God Bless
Never seen mains torqued from the end always center out towards ends. Just had pistons coated to & added 3 thou, check your piston to bore clearance I had to hone
Was noticing that you installed the Head Studs and then put the heads on. Was always told if you can just install a stud or 2 in Block then install Heads, to prevent the threads of the Head Studs from gouging up the Aluminum while Head is being installed, then install the rest of the Studs after Head is on. I guess it doesn't make much difference, as long as your careful while you're sliding Head over Studs. By the way that's a very nice piece, "The Aluminum SBF Block"
Thanks for teaching us John I learned a lot and enjoyed the video
Just so you know a Pontiac V8 , #1 cylinder is NOT the front cylinder in the block. #2 is the farthest forward in the block.
Great video!
For real? Wow, I never knew that at all! Thanks for sharing
@@TurboJohnRacing Block is like a ford, but uses GM cylinder numbering.
Don't forget Ford's venerable old flathead - #1 not at the front either
,,,,In 2000 I learned about a pontiac 400 the hard way,,,,,,,Had to pull out all the pistons and make it correct.............
Once again TurboJohn, I’ve really gotta say a BIG THANK YOU 🙏 for explaining things so well
Honestly, I don't really care much for southern accents, but I subbed before you started showing the engine.
There's a lot of engine channels on youtube, but a lot of douches too. You automatically have that vibe that makes others wanna sit down, have a beer and talk cars with. Very neighborly and humble.
Bless your heart.
Cool. Thanks for sharing all the information. Those wrist pins are genius.
Gorgeous.
I would guess 2500 is right close on the limit for that head stud arrangement regardless of solid block or heads
The engraver works best slow movement speed, light pressure. You get that bouncing crazy looking number by putting too much pressure down at first
I like seeing people being different instead of LS b.s. all the time people think LS is holy grail and only engine that can build power.
You have a great team of good friends john
not a ford guy at all but man that is a bad ass set up the rods are massive nice video love that crank
That is one nice piece. I am jealous. I have no doubt that will take boost and make major power. That would make big power na
Those buttons definitely make life easier. Next time i order pistons I’ll have those instead for sure
Yeah, you should ALWAYS degree your camshaft when installing too, like John Always checks, i watched a few of your videos, i noticed you don't check your camshaft when installing. You should ALWAYS check that especially on a race engine. You didn't even check it when you got that Shaffiraf Short Block, i know i spelled his name wrong. Should ALWAYS Atleast check one cylinder.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 hell, dot to dot, be done with them cams! Lol. But yea, on an all out,(expensive) race engine you should degree them, but a little street/strip engine dot to dot has never let me down. Well I shouldn't say that, in my younger year's cams weren't ground with advance already in them or as precise as they are now so did run into problems back then.
They are only used where the ring package is moved up to accomodate a longer connecting rod. (Where the oil ring groove interferes with the wrist pin retainer groove and a proper groove can not be made.) Like an extreme stroker/long rod motor.
@@myfavoritemartian1 very true.
sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account..?
I somehow forgot my account password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me!
That’s a kick ass engine. Looking good guys. 👍
So the lobe separation angle is 114 if the cam is 2 degrees advanced.
John, I know this was a while back, and for some reason I hadn't seen it. But was the crank, rod's, pistons balanced? I noticed when you were installing the rod's and piston's there was a number on them. I haven't ever built a aluminum short block yet and would love too, just to do the math lol. Thanks for the video. Glad to see you got yr new aluminum block engine going well. It always takes a min to get all the bugs worked out. If I ever built one n something didn't happen, I prob would be a lil worried🤣
Yes, but all of them should weight the same. The numbers are so we can just get everything back where it came out of.
I'm really about Modular Motors but I've gotta' say yall got some beautiful rotating goodies in there. Nice work!
You're not in to motors at all if you think this is a mod motor little feller.
He’s trying to say he likes modular motors but being as this one isn’t,… it’s still damn nice with nice internals. Come on man. Context!! Not hard. Everyone so quick to be negative or a smart arse!!
NICE Hardware right there! Thanks for the content.
That is so cool, you guy's helping each other out! I wish I had a friend who'd help me out with my engine(s)! One that actually knows what he's doing and willing to spend the time to help!
If you were in Australia. I would be happy to show you. Nothing better than given knowledge to someone that wants to learn. All the best 👍
Get some of them sticky pad notes and write down where you will not forget and stick them on the engine. Nice build
I would have thought coating on the head gaskets was like the plastic on a frozen pizza.
-Thanks for the video! Beautiful smallblock.
Thank you John I always learn alot from your videos. Its priceless for somebody like me that needs to get the most out of what I got..💯👍
Right on!
🐘🐪🦏🦬🐂🐃🦏🐏🐑🦒🦮🦙🐐🐐
Awesome job guys, great content John
I got a little over 700 lift if the rocker ratio is 1.6. Pretty high lift
Good too see you work hard today
Are you not supposed to torque them inside out? Not from one side to another
Damit, John...... I have a Vortex 7.4 (454) that I acquired a few yrs back that is just calling my name now. I have got to stop watching these videos. LoL. Cool stuff brother. Can't wait to hear it fire up.
Vortec.
Badboy coming to life.. 👍🏻😎
What timing pointer are you using? Sweet video!!
what block is that Randy uses
Shelby
What timing pointer are you using?
I love that block! I am boosting for the first time. 363ci? DryDeck?
This one has solid heads and block now. 427ci
Nice informative video John!
No valve lash caps? We used to run them on our Fords
God no, i doubt they are used anymore unless its an endurance motor running long high rpm runs. I havent seen any used since i trashed those old 69 351 heads years ago
@@young11984 we ran circle track and used them on our trick fords. By the time we ran sand drags we had chevy engines.
What SBF block is that or derived from? For a moment I was thinking them heads is BBF. But, I remembered this is a SBF build. Them heads are huge. Are they Australian? They don’t mess around down under when it comes to SBF heads.
What kind of small block Ford block are you using I seen the big c on the front
That’s a beast
It’s crazy the power this engine is putting out!
that looks like a lot of money right there lol.. would love to know the cost list.
What a badass build love that aluminum block and roller thrust setup !!! And Next time you deal with spiral locks pull them open a bit helps a lot I use small flat head to push them in I really hate the ones that require 4 per piston lol
Hey John is that a special thrust bearing? I can't find any info on it. Or did the machine shop do the work to make it fit. Thanks
Great vid. Very good job explaining ever!!
What your impression and thoughts on the new ford 7.3 litre in the f series engine. All the best from Australia, 👍
I have not researched them
What a badass motor! And it's not a damn LS! What valley played is that?
Fantastic build.
That's a thing of art
Just out of curiosity why the Torrington bearing for thrust? Looks like a nice build!
This is by far the best how to Degree a camshaft.
Thanks
.460" lobe lift is surprisingly small, but then we don't know the rocker ratio, which could be 1.6 like a stock SBF, or it could be 2.0:1 or possibly more. Would be interesting to know.
Completely off topic but there's alot of chainsaws under those benches whats model is that old poulan lol ? It's a hobby of mine hot rodding saws,but anyways nice seeing you but a ford together ❤
Damn thats a block!
Who manufactures the block? It looks like a Shelby logo for on the front. Great content man keep it up.
Very nice video.. Where did you get the heads ?...? Big block design on a small block, boss 9 design, very nice,,, WOW...
They are Yates, d3
Who made the block and head's
@@JamesJones-fv6kc I'm wondering the same thing. On the front of block it looked like the CS Carrol Shelby logo.
But how does the cooling system works it doesn't have holes in the block for water to come through
Was wondering the same thing.
Inspired to build this 5.4 for a Ranchero
Nice progress guys..
John are those Jesel sportsman steel rockers ?
Man i wish i had all the specs of that engine. Im building a 408/418 and im wanting part numbers. Lol
Randy is ready
Drag racers invented the piston buttons to ease and speed the changing of the rods
How much more does button piston cost over Spiro lock piston?
I don't know, but they make life so easy!
2,500hp with 4 bolt oem main cap "bolts"?
Not in our shop, this step is what determines wheather its an engine that's intended to grenade and transform into shrapnel, or one that's going to keep together under that kind of power output, in which case we would use a set of beefed up ARP main studs, and a stud girdle slash windage baffle and the same goes for the heads, with the deck and head gasket surfaces improved, a groove cut into the deck mating surfaces around the combustion chamber for head gasket O rings, and carefully chamfer all the tapped holes to minimize surface distortion on matting surfaces maintaining solid contact between nuts caps and block.
Your shop should make vids.🙄👍
What Block & Cyl. Heads..?
What heads are you running?
I live in Roxboro I had no idea y'all raced at this little track here love to come see you guys when are you what day are y'all racing at this truck
Are those Yates heads?
I believe there the D3 heads.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 ok thanks
Obviously the super damper is great if it’s used on this build ?
Any thoughts on innovators west damper ?
I can’t decide between the 2
ATI
Any follow-up on this vid. fellas? Beautiful engine and assembly.
We made some good passes at Darlington a couple weeks ago
Look like the Ducks Guts!! 🇦🇺What heads are these please guys? 👍😎👍
Who’s lifters was used in this build?
Great content,,,,👍
Quick question,,,,do u work on any motor for example if I give u a 2.5 v6 ltr engine,,wats the maximum horsepower I'm looking forward on gett'n out wen u tweak it & at wat cost 🙄
Lastly wat state r u in ????
I use a small screwdriver customized for the spiral locks. Know what you mean getting you fingers all cut up.
That is a beautiful engine is that for ur mustang how big is that engine n who make it.
This is a Solid Shelby engine block.
What's the reason for the break in the groove for the top fuel hoops on the right side of the block?..
what break are you looking at? what time in the vid? There is a joint between each cylinders where the receiver grooves are cut because you only have so much room to fit the hoops if that's what you mean.
@@macman231 At around 19:20 I can see a groove except for between the cylinders..
@@rjones2000r It might look strange between the cylinders but the groove is cut all the way down to the lowest point between each cylinder, again there is only so much room to fit two hoops next to each other between the cylinders so the grooves meet there so there is no border between the grooves as its totally cut out, but when the copper gasket is crushed there is still a complete sealed circle of the hoop around each cylinder.
What kind of block is that?
Shelby
What Block does Randy use?
What did that awesome tool do?
Not sure how this sounds but that is serious Crank Porn..thats a nice piece
Hey jon I'm from roxboro, what day was u gonna b here at this track 🤷♂️ I know I'm late now just wondering what day u was here.🤙 I like ur videos
Are those roush Yates heads?
I think he said they are yates heads! If you go back and watch the other videos of the build!
Yes, D3’s
@@randyeller296 Looks like they have Roush"s open cup port program as well???
What pan is that?
What's the cam specs?
How many hours you got invested in this
John are you Shure about that cam timing
You don't soften that hard edge on the valve relief?
It was rolled slightly.
What keeps those bottons in and not rub the bores, do they lock in some how?
Usually they are held in by the oil ring.
So the oil ring goes on after, I see.
Those nice parts deserve a better assembly process and attention to detail.
You available next time?
Sure. My engine room is clean and my magnetic base doesn't have saw dust on it. You should come by and I could teach you how to use a bolt stretch gauge. I'd be scared to run that one with the boost intended with the lack of detail used. That engine deserves better.
@@nealm8709 I agree spraying copper coat down the cylinder walls wow.
While Ford numbers their pistons differently than Chevy, with the firing order they use the actual firing order of the pistons in the block is the exact same as Chevy.
Ls is a Ford Windsor.
How long would an engine like that last?
Depends, gets rods, bearings, rings yearly
Like a small block ford 2500 hp wow.
Good work guys!!Enjoyed the video!
Great Video!