HUGE Splice AI Update (IS THIS BAD?)
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- HUGE Splice AI Update (IS THIS BAD?)
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I feel like the term "AI" is being thrown around a bit too generously nowadays. This is pretty much just a shuffle feature with a few parameter constraints (sticking to genre labels and making sure the scales match).
I know what you are saying, grey area for sure AI is the buzz word for this year
@@DixonBeats "Buzz word", that's definitely what it is
“making sure the scales match” that’s where the AI is :) The tech is real and it doesn’t look at Key or anything like that, only at the audio itself and scans millions of sounds in milliseconds. And if you play with it, you’ll realize it matches sounds that develop coherently in time with each other. key matching can’t do that. We would not be using the term “AI” if it wasn’t the real thing. Sincerely, one of the inventors of the tech behind!
@@alejandrokoretzky146 Hey, good to hear it's not just another use of AI as a buzzword. So does "develop coherently in time with each other" mean melodically and/or rhythmically? So that it picks sounds that could have actually been played together?
@@danatello8489 correct, it finds sounds that fit best together harmonically and rhythmically at the same time. if you play with it enough, many times it finds sounds from the same original arrangement (like a string orchestra) without knowing they were part of the same ensemble
It would be great to add your own customs loops to see how it sounds.
🤔This would be perfect for someone who’s goal is to spend more time learning to mix and master. It would also be good for someone who wants to rap but doesn’t know how to produce yet and want to get started laying vocals🤷🏾♂️
It will make it easier for people to play around with producing and get ideas. But it still takes a good ear to know what sounds good together and resample into new arrangements. Could also allow people to push envelopes for what's possible. I've already made 4 loops in a few minutes. But I wouldn't leave them like that. I'd have do more in the daw.
Absolutely!
Well said
used this for the first time yesterday, and it definitely felt like cheating, and the beat was so fire it worries me for the future frfr😭🤦🏾♂️
Damn, the first generated loop is nice, especially with the lower bell sound. Makes me imagine nice sceneries.
AI really is amazing for infinite inspiration.
Also, did the editing improve? The video was even more entertaining to look at than before.
Thanks! I hope it’s improved 😀
Bad Ting, creativity is key. Standard
It's interesting the way AI is being incorporated into music production. I agree with your last point... this could be bad for music producers in the long run... But I guess if you are really good at what you do the artists will always prefer your touch over these generic simulations.
Yeah true!
"But I guess if you are really good at what you do the artists will always prefer your touch over these generic simulations" - I hope you're right, but I think you're underestimating people's greed.
Sir. It's great for people who don't know music theory.and bad for producers who sell beats.
1:55 We're screwed
I see nothing wrong with using loops every once in a while. Sometimes you hear something so good you need it for yourself 😫
I'm going to stick to FL Studio, but with that being said, I could see so many new ideas for beats with this tool!
I still remember studio teachers and alt rockers calling Acid Loop discs the "end of music" back in the day. lol
Surprisingly, I could see it also being a fun toy to help break writers block; and inspire sample users to mix in their own work through DAWs like Ableton.
It's a good concept to encourage a simple point of entry to the hobby. We all fell prey to gatekeeping at least once getting into music production. More points of entry means more new blood.
I see people being absolutely juvenile about it on all the Splice AI ads, and honestly, their music probably sucks, if they're worried about others. 😅
If someone new just uses this then they wont sound good. A song usually has a few different parts. And playing with the sounds and dynamics is what makes any song good and memorable. This is just something like a quick fix, not a hit maker.
Interesting video. It might be good to use from time to time to get a starter idea formed if you have beat block or something, but it kinda makes the whole process a bit soulless. AI is very useful but I feel this might be one step too far as music has a huge element of feeling to it IMO.
At the end of the day it’s another tool, nobody jamming at the party wondering how the beat was made. If it🔥🔥🔥let it do what it do🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾
I mean it's just a loop. *shrug. There's so much music/raw musical material to recycle now.... it's just how you recycle it that people almost never think about ;)
In my opinion it looks amazing, ai cant replace the producer because ai pruducion is generic but i gives so many ideas
True, would you just use the loops or add your own stuff too? Melodies fx etc?
"ai cant replace the producer because ai pruducion is generic" - That's only because AI is still relatively new. Feed it more and more source material and it will get better at creating "new" material. That's one of my biggest complaints about AI (learning "AI", not random generators) -- all it's doing is creating derivatives works of other people's stuff, but giving no credit to the original composers.
This is a very short-sighted comment
Imo Ai is good for those who have no natural creative talent . The machine does the work. Then the next issue will be copyright infringement .
Very cool video. I don't really feel that this will affect me, I don't use loops, so I can't say that this worries me at all. It is interesting though, but I won't be using it. Thanks for sharing Dixon. Have a great week.
Fair enough! you too!!
I think AI/or sublimated algorithms can be detrimental to music in general. At first it looks like a new toy in his toolbox, but then he is either disgusted or possessed, depending on one's understanding of music. These algorithms don't create music from scratch, they meaningfully combine existing materials with pre-existing materials and styles. A kind of recycling of used materials.
Less and less talented musicians appear and are promoted as "stars", indirectly imposing what is "good music" on people. The audience is conditioned. They manage the understanding of music by increasing the listening numbers with the reserved places in the playlists of their artists and similar tools available to them, and then they call it modern music.
In the old days, if you couldn't carry a tune or play a melody with instruments and couldn't distinguish one chord from another, you'd end up as a listener, not a musician. Now with these new toys, listeners can feel or simulate something like creating music, sort of. As long as it stays in the personal space, that's not a bad thing.
As an analogy, consider an imaginary person (let's call him Joe) with an AI speech box hanging around his neck. Someone asks Joe about his worldview, Joe presses the button on the box, and suddenly the box plays/speaks a unique mix of meaningful sentences from pre-recorded ideas of the world from leading thinkers and philosophers. Good, but those aren't Joe's words.
Music exists because someone imagines it, dreams it. No dreams, no music. More AI, more artificial food for the soul.
Notice how u keep mentioning "in the old days" YUP EXACTLY - All the shit u r talking about doesn't apply to today, that's like saying if you play an electric instrument such as a lead guitar then it's a toy and a poser by EVEN OLDER standards therefore Jimi Hendrix, Van.H and his likes are all just fake posers.
I advice u to revisit ur comment and not fall in a common ignorant trap
Just to let you know if you cancel your splice sub.... when you do re subscribe you will get your previous unused credits back along with your new ones.... so you don't lose them as such, I've done this plenty of times with large gaps in between
As for the tool I think it's nice to get you started with an idea however I don't think anyone should just be grabbing loops from splice and should be switching then up anyway....as ai can't replicate the feeling and thought process of humans to make unique creations in the same way.... I kinda view arcade in a similar way.
I would love though to be able to upload a loop of my own and have it analyse my loop and then suggest for instance saxophones that can fit the tempo and key (with pitch shifted options) just to save time digging ..... but I also guess that's the fun
I also think rappers and singers still need a producer as there's a big difference bergen a 4 or 8 bar loop and a fully structured song with transitions.... also we still gotta mix it
Could be handy though for rappers and singers though to find a stack they like to show you there idea if they can't articulate for you to make a full structured beat of something similar
Just my long 2 cents 😂
Yeah some good ideas in there! Last time I went to cancel I swear it said am I sure I want to because I’m going to lose all of my credits 👀👀👀👀👀
@@DixonBeats I think it states you'll lose access to your credits... but you re gain it when you re sub
Really whats the fun in this? This just feels soulless
You really need to make a sample your own, or its just the same as everything else. I am not talking just chopping it up, but literally arranging up the chops, repitching, resampling, etc., otherwise what's the point? Making music is bringing your idea or creation to fruition, not someone else's. We live in a world of movie and TV show reboots, as well as music I guess, these days. Nothing wrong with remaking something, with credit where credit is due. 49,000 songs uploaded to Spotify per day. What's the percentage of good to shiite, like less than 1%?
"Making music is bringing your idea or creation to fruition, not someone else's" - That's only true for artists. For many people, "making music" is about making whatever people will pay to hear, and if they can do that by gluing together pieces from someone/somewhere else with little to no effort, they will. We also live in an age of entitlement where people think "if I hear it, I can take it and use it as my own", without regard to copyright or to the effort (and cost) someone went through to create it.
@@nomore6167 Sure, but it depends on your goal. That's not my goal. Completely agree on what people sample these days.
The problem is when Splice and other AI software lets you do this to create a whole new 4 min multitrack in any genre. Then you as a creator are no longer a creator just a bystander :(
Mostly BAD...taking away the personal creative part of making any music/sound production
leaves little for the hu-mans to do except push a couple presto buttons...great if it's music
for AI to groove on, I guess...if AI does groove?...Thanx Dixon for thought provoking vid... gives us
all much to ponder...
Well said!
The loops sound bad imo. The sounds don't fit together and they have no overall feeling/vibe. It's just some random loops thrown together. I don't think it's even AI.
Fair enough 😅
@@DixonBeats I do think though that it can be used for ideation. Thanks for reacting on my comment. 🙏
it is AI :) I’m one of the inventors of the tech. the matching happens in milliseconds across the entire catalog. it uses the audio data only and identifies the most compatible sounds available. not random, no key matching.
Horrible IDEA..That's why I don't USE SPLICE:((
I just feel that it just means the world will be flooded with more loop based music and real musicians will be more difficult to find.
I'm torn. It's not that it's a bad thing. It's a tool like anything else, but the more time savers and shortcuts we have, the less human touch there is. It means lesser musicians will have their game seemingly brought up, good musicians will have more starting points and inspiration.
For example, I am terrible with drums, but everything else is pretty good. It could help add good drums to my work.
The vocals on splice are cheesy and terrible. But that's not surprising. If someone wrote great lyrics and sang them, they would make it into a track! Splice users are left with second hand leftover lyrics.
Splice AI no thanks...I'll just stick to FL Studio.
Lol okay.
You do you dude, it's okay if you don't want to use it.
My view on AI in general (in the context of music generation) is pretty much the same as my view on using loops -- using it as a minor part of the creation process or as inspiration is perfectly acceptable, but using it as a major part of the composition is unacceptable. Anyone can tap a few keys and glue pieces together; that doesn't take any talent. Actually composing, on the other hand, takes real talent and creativity. Sadly, given the dumbing down of society, the push to make everything sound the same, and people's overall laziness and greed, I have little doubt that AI will be a major part of the creation process for tomorrow's "producers".
Kool so it makes the beats for you 😂 start learning instruments folks!! Won't be long till you can make beats and create songs tk an extremely high standard and eventually, and in some circles of society, finding people that play instruments is going to be hard, so learn instruments and encourage others to do the same
How the f*** do i download the f**** stack!!??!
nvm -thank you!
Overall sound quality is bad
This is awesome!! Finally I can make the music I want without a producer acting as a gate keeper!!
...YOU can make? 😂
🤦🏿♂️
insaneee
Crazy isn't it 🤖
it´s a blurred line for me. Sure ,it´s music , and the person with the app on their phone or laptop , will "create it", but calling them a musician or producer would be like saying anyone who puts together an IKEA bookshelf ,is a furniture builder. It´s a clever toy for beat-creation ,and of course, beats and trap have become the trend, so I can´t argue with success,.For me, if some robotic app does all the work it would be of course, time saving and one can whack out beats at 10 per day, but for a genuine musician who enjoys the process of actually, composing from scratch, playing and learning, where´s the challenge? I mean... come on! How hard is it to come up with an 8 bar cadence? It doesn´t really "threaten" me personally, since I know most high-end artists and professionals will use their own brains over AI so , go in peace!
Thanks for your input, I agree 🙌🏻
Its a good thing. If your livelihood and/or creativity is threatened by a service putting some loops side by side, maybe try harder and stop scamming people out of their money.
"If your livelihood and/or creativity is threatened by a service putting some loops side by side, maybe try harder and stop scamming people out of their money" - I get your underlying point, but I don't think you're really thinking about the big picture. Most people are lazy and will do the least amount of work possible to achieve their goal. Additionally, most people are very sheep-like and want to be told what to like and what is "good".
I have no doubt that "producers" and big-name artists will use this as well as the next generations of AI to generate the music for them, then aggressively market that music so people will think it's "good", effectively forming a feedback loop of generating crappy music that becomes popular because people are told its good (and people will fool themselves into believing it's good because they want to be "cool" and accepted).
Short-sighted comment. You aren't really grasping that we're looking at the nascent stages of AI - it will improve upon itself exponentially and your comment will make no sense in 10 years.
@@nomore6167 What's going to happen is a shift from creation to curation. Making a beat has gradually become easier with time, with AI even more so. Anyone will eventually be able to have an AI make something musical, if you want to make a living doing it you'll need to find a way to make it stand out and be more interesting.
@@gutterg0d "if you want to make a living doing it you'll need to find a way to make it stand out and be more interesting" - That won't matter when people will listen to literally anything they're told is good and the quality of popular music continues to decline. The way it's heading, the only way to make a living will be in niche areas, which means it will require far more luck than talent (even more so than now) just to get your stuff heard. You can also say goodbye to film and TV placements, as the studios will jump to AI-generated music as soon as possible to avoid having to pay royalties and licensing fees.
@@nomore6167 That's just you getting older. There is no such thing as objectively good music.
If all you do is music production, I suggest you learn new skills and prepare to make money in new ways.
😳😳😳 I think you should always have different ways of making money with music in general either way 🙌🏻