DBH is so right. That image of a party with folks being tormented below is powerful. Imagine being thrust into existence, live a miserable life, then be consigned to hell. How awful.
Yes. It *is* awfully powerful imagery. But what _do_ you think the closing verses of Isaiah 66 describe? For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that [transgress] against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. Thanks in advance for sharing any thoughts you might have.
The single most read sermon in the history of the church is St. John Chrysostom's Easter sermon. It only makes sense from a universalist perspective. Maybe the saint embraced ECT, maybe the Easter sermon is wrongly ascribed to him. I have no idea. But I know what ghat sermon says. It is 100% universalist and perhaps the most beautiful piece of Christian writing in history.
I want to know how satan and the other angels knowing God better than we ever could, would even have the notion that they COULD rebel and win? Because not one of them could even be capable of the thought that such a thing is even possible, so why would they do it?
Because god granted them the freedom to have the thought, and the freedom to love him or not to. Or to imperfectly love him. To choose to unite consciously… this being delightful to him?
Thank you Father Hart and DB Hart. You are setting captives free and delivering sight to the blind. You can do nothing better.
DBH is so right. That image of a party with folks being tormented below is powerful.
Imagine being thrust into existence, live a miserable life, then be consigned to hell. How awful.
Yes. It *is* awfully powerful imagery. But what _do_ you think the closing verses of Isaiah 66 describe?
For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that [transgress] against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
Thanks in advance for sharing any thoughts you might have.
Superb review . Edifying and insightful . Perhaps the most engrossing of the five installments . Will be accessing this one again . Thank you .
The single most read sermon in the history of the church is St. John Chrysostom's Easter sermon. It only makes sense from a universalist perspective. Maybe the saint embraced ECT, maybe the Easter sermon is wrongly ascribed to him. I have no idea. But I know what ghat sermon says. It is 100% universalist and perhaps the most beautiful piece of Christian writing in history.
I want to know how satan and the other angels knowing God better than we ever could, would even have the notion that they COULD rebel and win? Because not one of them could even be capable of the thought that such a thing is even possible, so why would they do it?
Because god granted them the freedom to have the thought, and the freedom to love him or not to. Or to imperfectly love him. To choose to unite consciously… this being delightful to him?
I would disagree that the angels could know him better than we ever could. Glorified humans no better than angels with mere grace.
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