NASA Sending SpaceX Crew Dragon for ISS HELP! No More ISS
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- SpaceX stands out as the only provider offering significantly lower costs compared to others. Take the Commercial Crew Program as an example: Boeing was awarded $4.2 billion, while SpaceX received $2.6 billion-almost 50% less. What’s the outcome? Boeing has struggled with delays, while SpaceX's Crew Dragon has successfully completed around 8 crewed missions and 10 cargo missions. Despite the extra $1.6 billion for Boeing, there hasn't been a fully successful crewed launch and return, and their progress is significantly delayed.
So, why did NASA choose SpaceX again? Let's dive in!
For over two decades, the International Space Station (ISS) has orbited Earth, serving as a critical platform for scientific research and international cooperation in space exploration. The ISS has provided NASA and its partner agencies with sustained access to low Earth orbit, facilitating numerous scientific experiments and technological advancements. However, maintaining this floating laboratory comes at a significant financial cost. Annually, the ISS expenses amount to approximately $3 billion, consuming about a third of NASA's human spaceflight budget. Given these costs and the station's aging infrastructure, NASA has initiated plans for its decommissioning, projected to occur around 2030. The process will culminate in the controlled deorbiting of the ISS, allowing it to burn up in Earth's atmosphere.
Recently, a crucial announcement revealed that SpaceX has been chosen to develop a specialized vehicle for the deorbiting operation. This development marks a significant milestone in the ISS's journey toward its final days in orbit.
NASA's journey to select a company for the ISS deorbit mission began in early 2023. The agency issued a request for proposals, seeking designs for a space tug capable of safely deorbiting the ISS. Several prominent companies, including SpaceX and Northrop Grumman, submitted their bids. After a rigorous evaluation process, NASA officially announced SpaceX as the chosen partner to develop and deliver the U.S. deorbit vehicle.
In an official statement, NASA outlined its decision, stating, "SpaceX has been selected to develop and deliver the U.S. deorbit vehicle that will provide the capability to deorbit the space station and ensure avoidance of risk to populated areas." The statement emphasized that while SpaceX will handle the development, NASA will retain ownership and operational control of the spacecraft throughout the mission. This approach ensures that the vehicle, which will ultimately be destroyed during the deorbit process, aligns with NASA's safety and operational standards.
The contract awarded to SpaceX for this mission has a total potential value of $843 million. NASA clarified that the launch service for the deorbit vehicle will be procured separately, indicating that the project will continue to evolve in partnership with other industry players.
The nature of the vehicle that SpaceX will develop for the ISS deorbit mission is a topic of significant interest. One of the initial considerations is whether SpaceX will adapt its existing Dragon spacecraft or develop an entirely new design. The Dragon spacecraft, renowned for its versatility and proven track record, seems like a viable candidate. However, the unique requirements of the deorbit mission might necessitate significant modifications or the creation of a new spacecraft.
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They'll get the Starliner home when it"s docked to the ISS during de-orbit.
@gabbyhyman1246 Comment of the day right there bub... Lol. Good one.
NASA should employ SpaceX to design it's capsules. US tax payers deserve the best, which happens to be cheaper.
They did, they're called Dragon and Crew Dragon.
It is obvious that Spacex, with its proven track record is the dependable way to go.
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Yes indeed.
I believe selecting SpaceX to de-orbit the ISS is an error even though they are more than capable. Boeing should be the go to aerospace company when it comes to crashing. They have demonstrated that if you want it to go down they are the masters.
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Sure Boeing can bring it down, but only if they sign a contract to maintain it in orbit.
Boeing is a lemon farm. Planes crashing FAA inspectors have to be in all Boeing factories crew capsule may not survive re-entry after years of unfixed errors. The US government should be getting Europeans to build the F-35 for them at least then the Airforce would know it was to specs.
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@@robertcarbno3914 The F35 is built by Lockheed Martin. That said, I wouldn't ride a bike built by Boeing.
If it's possible to recycle all that metal in space and keep it there it would be cheaper than throwing it away
Boeing is another behemoth company that's more concerned about their stock value than building good products. I wouldn't fly in one of their planes much less their space craft.
NASA looked at its list of delivery/rescue capsules and they only find one - Space X.😮
Elon Musk should buy the space station. Boost it into a higher orbit and charge our government tons of money
Best if they design and build the next one!
I doubt the ISS will actually be de-orbited in 2030. The Russian segment will likely be detached (By the Russians) but I'm guessing some parties will have replacement modules ready by then to replace the russian modules, and have plans to refit the still usable modules with new equipment and give the ISS some extra life. De-orbiting 100 billion dollars? Madness.
Sad. ISS should be saved on a high orbit for future generations.
How many millions of dollars in structure and equipment are part of the ISS and why can’t at least some of it be used to build a new space station?
My question about the ISS de-orbit is this: Is the Starliner still going to be docked when this happens?
Given it's current state, it's most likely :D :D :D
Nah, jokes aside, definitely not. They have only a few docking ports and there is no way they would let Starliner occupy one of them for the following 6 years. It will get ditched one way or another, just to free up a docking port.
Boeing needs to be sued so gov. can recover some of the tax money
Why not push it out into space?
It would require a very large amount of boosters and fuel to be sent up which is currently not viable. And the ISS is constructed of decades old cobbled together modules, and has been experiencing issues at a higher rate as of late.
"Significant cost of $3bn..." 😂😂
But US Congress is good to spend almost $300bn in military equipment and munitions and additional 100bn cash in just 2 years for Ukraine. And it seems additional 100bn in Israel.
Good luck with that for NASA.
I can't help but to think we could just send it to orbit Mars.
Well, I personally think they should make it a part of a Moon orbiting platform until they can build a new one. It could be pushed to the Moon and put into orbit. Now it may not be possible, but to just drop it into the oceans is a waste to me.
You have to realize the ISS is 25 years old... and it's extremely heavy. You can't even imagine the amount of fuel that would be needed to move it to a Moon orbit, not to mention the already high running costs.
It is sad, and it's a waste, but it's a financial decision. Nostalgy is not enough to warrant paying for the upkeep of the most expensive object that humanity has ever built.
At this point the station is at a state where it becomes cheaper to build new modules and launch them on a new station, than to try repairing and keeping the current ones for another 10 years.
Agree 100% !!!
The ISS is orbiting at about 17,500mph. It's speed would have to be boosted to around 25,000 mph to escape low earth orbit and at a precise time to rendezvous with the moon in about 3 days but one mistake would send it on a one-way trip into deep space 😂
@@rickyburton3973 And if NASA can’t figure out how to do that, then they should just give up on going back to the moon, or sending anything to Mars again.
The cheapest way to crash the ISS would be to pay Boring to keep it flying.😅
3 billion a year! That is expensive maintenance. 😮
You actually expect more from the government?
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How about spending money on health care & education !
How about spending money on health care & education !
@@richarda996 How about spending money on health care & education !
I think they should really find a way to get it to a lunar orbit. Wouldn't that be great to have in orbit around the moon ?
I feel like it’s outdated and plagued with problems. There’s already a bunch of companies that are developing a new space station for commercial use if not multiple stations. I think it would make sense to have a new one that is better to go into lunar orbit plus if we are making regular trips to the surface of the moon than %100 believe there would be some sort of station with a smaller capsule to transport to the surface. That of course would be after the moon base is established.
That would always have been my choice! There is still so much re-usable hardware that can be used as the "skeleton" of the new add-on modules!!!
Agree, but I think the size of the station makes the amount of thrust required quite prohibitive. Shame they can’t decommission some of the modules and send the cut down version to the moon though.
It will be a great shame to see it die - so much work went into getting it up there, and keeping it working.
There has been talk about building a space station far out to be used as a stepping stone for more efficient trips to Mars but not near the moon. It would be more practical to just build a base on the lunar surface.
Not worth it.
Could the ISS not just be used as a fuel depot for future missions?
No lmao. It leaks like a sieve. Thing is literally falling to pieces, that's why they're decommissioning it to begin with
In my speculative opinion, SpaceX already has a vehicle designto fulfill the ISS Controlled Deorbiting contract: DRAGON-1, SpaceX'1 Inaugural cargo vehicle.
Dragon-1 will require a few system upgrades, improved and stronger RCS thrusters, starlink communications, a better, long duration power core, and the latest version of the lidar and autonomous control algorithms.
For the deorbiting and attitude adjustments, more than one D-1 vessel will likely be needed.
If the issue is fuel to keep the iss in higer orbit, than that will be the case.
Because,
The first usefull task for starship will be putting fuel into orbit. And be able to manipulate the load with gyroscopes.
So no starships but space containers which work as individual stations, with a total erthweight of 200 tons each.
You can put them anywhere to avoid they bump into eachother and can serve different tasks. Swarmmannagement.
You groupe what you need. And the availability dictates the possibilities.
Fuel, water, solarpannels, food. and construction elements i would say.
Starliner could be used as a refuse option.
Must be strange to get the contract to demolish the ISS
I find it hard to believe that some parts can't be salvaged for a future station.
Retain the main structural elements and splash the old modules.
Axiom also promised a full operating tourist hotel in orbit by 2025. That won't happen till after 2030. NASA needs to find more to build habitat for space
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Please don't destroy the Space station, send it to orbit the Moon, then they could use it as stop off to setup the first base station on the moon's surface, why destroy something that works well, if you want it kept clean I will certainly stay onboard as long as I am given enough biscuits and tea to last until the next crew can start working on the moon's base.😊
From what I've read, the ISS doesn't have enough radiation shielding to survive outside the earths magnetosphere. That and the amount of energy and logistics to transfer it to a lunar orbit would be beyond prohibitively expensive. It does suck that they'll deorbit it at the end of the decade though.
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WOW just think what NASA engineers could figure out if we jumped back in time to the 60s. After all it was then man landed on the. Moon
That would be cool, but unfortunately, as @platniumdr said, it takes a tremendous amount of energy to break earth’s orbit to head for the moon.
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Congrats to spacex go for the future space history
well technically, SpaceX can launch new Space Station with it's Starship.
Gee, not Blue Origin? LOL More Bezos lawsuits on the way...
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One day Bezos will be sending his lawsuits via quick deliver using Starship.😮
Bezos is a greedy oportunist
Na new Glenn will be launching an actual costumer payload on new Glenn's first launch at the end of the year .. unlike starship which carries nothing of its supposed 50 tons to LEO and will take at least 14 launches to get a supposed 100ton payload to the Moon on a v3 starship that doesn't even exist yet with refueling that's just on paper .. if we ever get to the Moon again blue origin is gonna need to launch there own lander to the Moon with Artemis .. I don't see starship v3 happening for another 10 years if NASA will even fund that in the future .. highly suspect with all the national debt and war costs ATM ... So if they can't do it with Artemis and new Glenn in the next 5 years it won't happen in my lifetime
It really sucks for the starship to put an entire iss in on or two flights in orbit.
We come immediately to the question, how long does it take to fill up a starship or space container on a booster with usefull payload.
Are there prognostic datas available ?
SpaceX is the only choice for the ISS de-orbiting mission...but I'm not understanding why NASA is insisting the vehicle be docked for a YEAR before the actual de-orbit? That really throws a monkey-wrench into the design as liquid fuels and oxidizers are difficult to maintain that long in space. It's like they're not confident that the de-orbit craft can be launched on time when the ISS needs to come down. Considering how ULA and NASA seem incapable of launching ANYTHING on time....perhaps that's part of the 'one year' requirement just to make sure it's there and ready to go when the time comes.
I think SpaceX could easily launch within a couple weeks of the de-orbiting moment which would make the vehicle design a LOT easier and they could use the normal 2nd stage Merlin for the job.
Send to the moon
....too many cooks in the kitchen, need ONE (1) good Chef (Musk) .
Have you heard of his Cybertruck?
He's gotten flaky and things are falling apart...
This is one of the questions I ask,How many Billions of dollars were spent putting the ISS in orbit. What they need to look at it as resources in orbit that could be repurposed at a later time. Use multiple boosters to go to a Geoscynrousl orbit . In 5 to 10 years take it to the moon and have a prebuilt habitat
Technology has changed since ISS in space.
SpaceX is the best.
There are several innovative and scientific ideas to address the problem of debris, particularly space debris, SpaceX can take initiative in cleaning the debris in space, in collaboration with NASA and all other countries space agencies.
i still think if spacex was around during some of the other companies primes would have been a killer combo. spacex, nasa, ula coulda been a powerful team. but now it feels it all falls on spacex pretty much. they got this, but everyone keeps getting mad and eventually gonna call it a monopoly, when really the rest just are loosing their steps.
maybe 10-20 years down the road we'll have spacex a starship dealership lmao.
Why destroy it? Take it apart and take the pieces to the moon to be reused as part of a lunar base...
Take it apart? It's not like a lego game is it? Also it is on orbit in space? How many millions of screws will fly around space? Like we don't have enough space junk all over already.
it's almost become a biological germ hatchery, there's nothing you can do for it, what ever we use has to be clean, I was thinking the same thing, but it's just going to get worse as time goes on, it's too far contaminated, plus it's 30 years old. the radiation is slowly eating through the shell and everything else on the exterior of the station. Plus, I believe our new station is going to be bigger and better with tech that will prevent the degradation of the station and new methods of keeping the station clean from dangerous germs.
That's what capitalism is supposed to be, the company that puts out the best product for the least money should get the contracts. Giving the contract to Boeing, because they're Boeing, is cronyism.
Absolutely!
What is the option to use the iss modules added to a moon module, build in earth orbit, to bring to the moon orbit?
I think you are correct when you speak about a Boeing "crude launch".
Instead of bringing it down maybe they should send it to the moon
Send the ISS to mars. Somehow land the structure, and there's your habitat Elon spoke of.
For any space mission it should only be spacex
I've heard that it really stinks up there but you get used to it.
I can just see it now…
SpaceX develops ‘space tug’ for this one job, figures out how to reapply and starts a satellite maintenance vendor business that nobody else can effectively copy $$$$
It’s a shame Boeing couldn’t employ people with the know how that sent numerous trips to the moon half a century ago , especially as they were only using 1960 tech ,,you would imagine that with the incredible advances in computers that deep space journeys to the moon for instance would be simple , but here we are all these years later only in near space
Bravo SpaceX.
why can't the space station just be pushed into deep space?
Why don't you take it down the same way you put it up there? One piece at a time and put it in a museum. Kind of like Johnny Cashes Cadillac.
Why not just send it to the moon for spare parts when they build a base there?
I'm not sure chasing one's tail around in LEO for 50 years qualifies as space exploration.
How else are you supposed to learn how to live and work in space without being there and finding out, hands on? For 50 years they've learned how to stay alive for prolonged periods, what works, what doesn't, and now they can work on getting out further to explore. I'm finding it hard to believe that anyone would honestly think that the ISS has done nothing productive for space exploration, so I hope you are trolling.
It's not the Low Earth Orbit that matters. Consider ISS a Laboratory where experiments can be conducted in microgravity, and, easy access to the vacuum of space. These are conditions that just can't be simulated on earth. Being able to produce crystalline structures in the absence of gravity, or a near- perfect vacuum can lead to huge advancements in semiconductors and other high-tech materials. If they decommission the ISS, you can rest assured, it will be replaced by a new facility that can conduct even more advanced experiments. Remember, the ISS was the replacement for Skylab, which was the original "space laboratory".
NASA does not have experience with MIR reentry, RossKosmos does .
Instead of crashing the ISS, since it is up in low orbit anyway, why not give it a push toward the moon…I know it’s old, but it would still make good storage in orbit around the moon….it just seems such a waste…why not do a program about that subject?
It sounds like a lot of money wasted for these vehicles to be built to carry people to the space station and then you're going to decommission it in 6 years the space station should stay until after we build a base on the moon
NASA could certainly do this but why bother when there are capable vendors to sub this out to. Ramping up design and production at NASA for this project would be a one-off not a program.
Instead of de orbiting, why don't they send it to outer space ?
Why don't booster rockets burn up while reentering the atmosphere?
Don't think about it too long.
I don't understand why it has to re-enter. Why not send it out to a higher altitude, say 25k miles with a small booster. Seems cheaper, it's like a boneyard. One small screwup and the ISS comes on someone's head.
Will there be a successor station in-progress when they deorbit the ISS?
This almost rivals Susquehanna steam electric nuclear station. canceling nuclear reactor 2 ... have it sitting on the property... 180 million dollar reactor vessel and they cut it up into little pieces and then they decided they were going to go with the unit yeare later, so then they had to buy another one....😮
SpaceX will just use Starship... Boost it slowly upwards elongating the orbit such that when it comes back down the reentry is very steep. Disengage Starship and recircularise it's orbit. Done.
Why not send the space station out in to space after disscomission of the station
Being can't do it, they can barely get to space. They can't even fly a 737 right.
ISS should be pushed to a lunar orbit.
Can we land it on Pyong Yang
Why doesn’t Boeing just buy its spaceships from SpaceX?
Why deorbit couldn't we just power it down an send it to obit the moon
Have ION engines been investigated as a way over time to place the ISS in MEO for extended us or even to place the ISS in a solar impact orbit. Personally I believe it would be much safer to deorbit the ISS in 6 to 8 major pieces as the impact foot print would be smaller and more predictable. A crew dragon on steriods likely will be the design, using the Falcon Heavy as it's launch vehicle. The other issue how much of the internal high tech hardware will be salvaged and returned to earth.
so what does this have to do with dragon,.'?
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I doubt that the money was fully invested in development... Corruption, embezzlement???
I think they need to dismantle one piece at a time to allow the one hardware to burn up
in the atmosphere safely. If you tried to do the whole thing, some the pieces may surviveI think they need to dismantle one piece at a time to allow out the burn in atmosphere safely. If you tried to do the whole thing, some of the pieces may survive.
Why de-orbit and not send into deep space or the sun?
Boeing has a little bit of "catch up" to do, and they need to do it in a hurry. SpaceX is just too far ahead! With the problems with aircraft and the Starliner space capsule, Boeing may not be with us much longer.
Demolish everything and start over is the NASA way of doing business. They should upgrade the shuttles for no return space habitation and launch them. Each shuttle could have had a 15 person crew. Now they are going to demolish the ISS? Why not dissaemble it and upgrade the systems into an orbital fueling station. They are wasting our tax dollars being stuck in the 60's and 70's mentality.
As long as we are not paying the Russians for trips to ISS, I’m happy. Wonder if the Government can Claw Back some of the money from Boeing?
I think it's a waste of resources. Why can't it be repurposed? Why pay for the same real estate twice? Let other space agencies use it.
4.2 and executives aren't executing, managers not managing, and engineers not engineering
So WHY are they getting paid 4.2?
Lining pockets my friend ..lining pockets
We are borrowing 1 trillion every 100-days. And 37 & TRILLION debt. Yah more spending... 😢
Why not sell it? Jeff B., Russia, or China might want to buy it. India is also a 11:07 possible owner. Shoot, even Elon might want it for a summer home.
Should boot it to l1
destroy a working station without a replacement , not even planed!
So are we going to rent the chinese one?
been wondering the same thing.
I think commercial space stations will be funded. There are many plans of various companies. They are all waiting for Starship tho because payloads are heavy
Did you not watch the. Video. They stated that a new module would be attached to the I.S.S. and that that would be expanded to a new stand-alone station. They are already building the moduels.
why not push it to the sun?
Hi Australia. Nervous yet?
Recycle the ISS on orbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Space x should buy nasa and go in space and tell the world what nasa is hiding for years . and whole world will love space for the truth, then space x can ask all countries to donate towards its future, and be the best space program ever
elon is so epic!!!! he should call it Elon's Epic Bacon 420!!!! it's like if a reddit moderator owned a space company it's so epic!!!!!!
Boing wwnt a 1 billion over the 4.5 billion they got ! Boing got 5.5 billion and still failed ! But it still not fired !
Such a waste. So much of ISS could be reused for another station. They should auction off parts and delay deorbit.
It is too contaminated to be reused.
They should give the contract to deorbit the space station to Boeing. They are excellent at crashing things.
NASA paid Boeing twice as much for a failed system.
Id rather watch spaceX rockets do the job than any other company. All others are junk
We just waste everything we put into orbit. A lot of the materials could be used on the moon recycle man recycle.
I guess you could say that Boeing is underworked and overpaid.
if we use NASA's operational standards we'd all be waiting for the next piece of this space station to go up and we'd all be stranded in space. i think that the SpaceX should run the whole operation from this point on NASA doesn't have the ability anymore. there's too many idiots running the NASA right now that aren't smart enough to be able to be doing it. I can run a calculator pretty easily do any kind of complications that I have to do with budgeting. when I ran the numbers you're paying too many idiots you need scientists and people who have gone to universities
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I'm going to laugh when SpaceX, instead of deorbiting the ISS, they send to Mars for shits and giggles.
This is the political convient Solution, let’s spend billions to put it up there, but not willing to spend enough to use it for something more productive. Nothing against SpaceX congrats. The next use for it is endless possibilities. I have offered to buy it for a nominal fee with international funding it could be the next phase of its development with the intent of making it akin to being a bouy tender in removing space debris and being the new scrapyard, automated manufacturing facility, we need to build large capital intensive facilities in situ for larger colonial ships, cyclers, asteroid retrieval deconstruction among other things.
Until we get O’Neal cylinders in orbit trying to get humans living long term in microgravity is a non starter, only after we reach scale can we begin the exodus off world.