2019 Weller Lineup featuring Full Proof: The Mash & Drum EP89
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024
- Weller, the original wheated bourbon from Buffalo Trace has added a couple branches to the family tree in the last couple years including the CYPB and Weller Full Proof. With the help of some generous viewers and just in time for the holidays, the Weller family is all here together and ready for a Blind Mashup to see which Weller reigns supreme today on the Mash and Drum!
Today's blind mash-up features:
Weller Special Reserve
Weller Antique 107
Weller 12
Weller CYPB 2019
Weller Full Proof
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I have been a bourbon drinker for a few years, but only recently started developing a collection and your recommendations have helped. Two weeks ago I bought the Knob Creek 9 Year, Russell Reserve 10 Year, and Old Forrester 1910. Today I found the Woodford Double Oaked at a store that was new to me and when I told him that I really wanted to try Weller he asked me to wait for a minute and grabbed me the last bottle of Full Proof. Paid $59.99 and it might be the best bourbon I ever tasted.
Just got my first bottle of Weller fp. What a great bourbon
Picked up a Weller Special Reserve 2 for 80.00, 40.00 each today! Very tasty! Great review, really like your detail!
Another great review. One really can't go wrong if they can find any one of the Wellers. Cheers!
I've got a Full Proof store pick that I was lucky enough to be able to buy at barely over MSRP. It is fantastic stuff. Not worth the stupid secondary prices (if you pay $400-$500 for it you may have brain damage), but a fantastic dram.
I would rank these the exact order you did. Awesome video man!
Thanks Jeremy! It was a fun blind. I hated the CYPB last year so I was surprised this years did so well. Cheers!
Going blind changes it all! Great episode man. Awesome tasting notes as always! Cheers 🥃
Was finally able to find a store pick of the Full Proof after a year looking. Can’t wait to open it
Yet to tackle a CYPB or Full Proof! After watching your review, am more motivated to look for the Full Proof ... perhaps at a bar! Love Weller 12! Thanks for sharing this Jason!
Just won a lottery to buy a full proof. Stoked!
I have 3 out of the 5 bottles. I might grow a unicorn horn before I find the other two. I was lucky to be gifted a sample of the full proof. For that I must pay it forward. 🌼
If I ever get a bottle of full proof I'm sharing the whole damn thing. Lol.
Same brother.just came across a 107 at specs for little upcharge.
Did someone say cotton candy? I heard cotton candy. Now I want cotton candy
Awesome video Jason! Very cool to see them all compared side by side & blind. 🥃😄
Thanks Jay!
This was fun! Amazing how on point your palate is!
Wellers reserve is a daily drinker. And to those that vape tobacco flavors. You will find Weleers Reserver very nice indeed.
Hey Buddy great review! Glad to see the Full Proof win as I'm really excited to get this and try. Great video as always, Cheers Maverick! Iceman Out!!!
Thanks man! The FP is really good. The non-chill filtering really makes it worth it. DAMN IT! LOL. roger that Iceman!
Great thorough review. I only have SR and 107 on my bar due to allocated BS in Missouri. I've been hunting others. Always enjoy your videos
Great (pre) Christmas video, Jason ! 👍😍 And now that I've tried 3 of these (actually tonight for the first time) I can understand what makes people so excited about this brand....Very interesting...Prices are crazy indeed on line...Cheers !
Very cool man. Not many get to experience the entire lineup. Cheers bro
Was very lucky. Very gracious and generous viewers helped me out.
I was lucky enough that my buddy gave me a bottle of Full Proof. Tried it Friday and it’s really good. It has classic Weller flavor but has the higher proof that I enjoy. In IL I can get the reserve for $28-45 and it’s my usual drink in rotation. I have a bottle of 12 that I paid $90 for that I’m afraid to open. I have had it at restaurants for approx $15 a pour and it’s really delicious. The cost is aggravating since that’s usually what bookers costs and it retails 2.5x as much. For the price I rather stick with the reserve. If I ever land another 12 at normal price I will be doing my own 3 way blind test. I had 107 at a restaurant and wasn’t really impressed with it so I am not seeking it.
I'll have to hunt down a sample of CYPB and do a proper blind tasting. Wasn't impressed with the single pour I had at a bar but wasn't expecting much. Blind changes everything. Agree about WFP though, it's next level compared to the others. Cheers
I love your show my fellow Ohioan. Very informative, thank you
Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers and Go Bucks!
Great mash up! Really appreciated your mentioning the prices on the secondary for these. Nobody really seems to talk about it in the video reviews. I recently had the opportunity to get the Weller 12 at retail, and was blown away how good it was for the price.
Great video! 🥃
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Awesome taste review Jason. I am a huge fan of Weller. However, I have only found the SR and 107 in Connecticut. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Picked up W12 today for $129.99. I had seen it only once before for $200 and passed. I figured this was as good as it’s going to get. I’m so excited! Great review. Xmas in June 😂.
I really like the special reserve. The 107 is pretty good and the weller 12 is okay. I haven't had the others but I'm definitely not spending over 40-50 dollars for weller 12 and antique 107 became a no go now that its 50 dollars msrp its not worth 50 dollars. Also am kinda surprised you didn't mention honey suckle that's what I get on the SR
good blind Jason! gotta find Full Proof
Weller products are seldom available near me. When they are, the price is jacked up. Six years ago, I bought my first Weller. It was $17. Then it was $35. Then it was $50. Then it was gone.
Yes unfortunately its the Pappy effect. And just most buffalo trace products in general. Hopefully with their expanded warehouses we will see more juice in the next 6-10 years.
Great review! Quick suggestion, on the hard to find bottles, could you suggest max price you'd pay? Lots of times, I'll run into a unicorn bottle with an outrageous price and I have a hard time debating whether it's worth it. Being stagg jr, some sort of wellers or an eh taylor. Love the work though and I'll keep watching!
I live in Georgia, so these are pretty hard to find, in their own right. But I do have all but the CYPB. I agree the FP is fantastic. I'd probably rank them: FP, 12, 107, and SR. But you can't really go wrong with any of these. Cheers!
I agree. I wouldn't seek out the cypb unless you are getting it for 40. Not nearly worth the secondary
Nailed it.
great video. luckily my local store had a store pick of Full Proof for black Friday and I was able to pick up three bottles of it as well as two of the 12 yr.
Niiiicee!!!
3 bottles????? what?!
@@XscarpettaX Small town in Illinois and I went with a buddy and my wife..... limit 1 each. The local store split a barrel with another store owner. Talked with the owner and we are going to go in July 2020 to pick out another barrel of Weller full proof.
Great blind review. Guess I'll be trying to find the Full Proof.
Love this match up, now just to hunt them down, have two but the others will be difficult. Both the ones i have i do enjoy and would love to try the others
Yeah none of the other 4 are bad. I was really splitting hairs. But the Full Proof has some significant differences with the higher proof and being non-chill filtered. Just a better experience overall.
There is also a Weller "Single Barrel" which has an orange label and I've never seen it anywhere.
Very interesting results! Like yourself, I was surprised by the OWA ranking. Cheers.
Yeah I was really surprised. I was wondering because I drank it first if that made a difference. Cheers!
Jason, thanks for the entire line up blind tastings. Maybe with OWA107 coming in 4th, there will more available at under $40? NOT!!! 😥🥃 CHEERS!
LOL! Well they are 50 here now in OH. I definitely dont buy them as quickly as I was before.
Nice video and kudos for stating both the MSRP and the reality (absurdity) of what is happening with regards to price. FYI, the crazy pricing is not limited to the secondary market. My local retailer has a bottle of CYPD for $499 and the Full Proof for... $799. At those prices I will never buy them and it's highly unlikely I will ever have the opportunity to try them. Sadly this is the state of the bourbon market. It must be difficult to continue to provide this content knowing that fewer and fewer of us will ever get to try many of the whiskeys you are presenting.
Yes it can be. I had to borrow the full proof and cypb. Ive only ever seen then at outrageous prices like you stated. Unfortunately until the bourbon boom slows down and people actually stop spending these crazy prices on bourbon it will continue.
@@TheMashandDrum It doesn't seem like that will be any time soon, but I have seen signs. Last year my local Pappy source got an assortment of 18 (mostly 10 year) bottles in December. In the past they would call the list and they would be gone in a day or two. But they still had 6 bottles by the new year and they even made it to the display cabinet where the last one (a 20 year) finally sold in mid-February. Several other locations had similar occurrences. If that happens again this year it just might be the beginning of some price resistance. Let's hope.
@@tomscott4438 I'm seeing the same trend. I think at some point it will die down and people will stop paying ridiculous prices for some of this stuff. The sad thing is alot of people don't even drink it. They just look at it. Or re sell it.
@@TheMashandDrum It's been going on in the wine world for years and the same thing is now happening in the watch market. Five years ago you could walk into any authorized Rolex dealer and buy a Submariner in stainless steel for MSRP. Now it's a two-year wait list with nothing guaranteed or you go to the secondary (online) market where a $8k watch is available for... $13K. It's blatant market manipulation, but there are too many fools willing to pay the prices.
107 4th! Wow. Thanks for the review. I'll be excited to try the Full Proof if I have the opportunity.
Oh it surprised me too!!
NIce vid! If I'm being honest, Weller (of any kind) is one that I've been meaning to try but haven't yet, despite visiting the Buffalo Trace distillery a few weeks ago. They really didn't go over their BTAC offerings very much, but it was the basic free tour so I can't complain. I'll have to hunt down one of these to try soon. Keep up the great content!
Thanks jeff! The wellers are great values if you can find them at the right price. Unfortunately alot of them are upcharged. Cheers.
@@TheMashandDrum I think that's the reason I haven't really been trying to hunt them down. What is your favorite affordable (and mostly available) wheater if you had to pick one?
@@socoblue1988 probably Larceny. I do like makers 46 all of a sudden. Lol. And Wilderness Trail BiB wheated bourbon is delicious too.
@@TheMashandDrum ok, thanks for the suggestions Jason! I know I've had Larceny but it's been a while. Gotta kill a few open bottles first before I can validate a new one, but I'll keep those in mind, lol.
Been looking forward to this review Jason. I’ve only tried the Weller 12 once and I had a bad cold when I did. Tasted super oaky to me. I’ll have to try again without the cold. A slight disappointment on the CYPB but really excited to try Full Proof some day soon! Great review! Cheers!
Yeah the Full Proof is on another level. I was hoping it wouldnt be as good but the non-chill filtering and the proof are just perfect. Such a good bourbon. I hope they can produce more of it. Cheers!
Great episode Jason. I've only seen SR on the shelves here in MN. Bought a couple but running low now. Happy holidays to you!
Generally that's all you will see "on the shelf". OWA is usually obtained via relationships with stores. W12, CYPB and WFP are nigh impossible. I've averaged about 1 W12 per year for a while, missed CYPB both years and got a WFP this year with an inside man :-). FWIW, CYPB is total tater bait. I had a pour at Lake & Irving and it's very unremarkable, especially compared to OWA. WFP is very good, I'd grab any I can find.
Man I'll tell ya I'm shocked that the 107 came in where it did. I dont have the full lineup but I need to try this blind to see how ours match up. Great breakdown and review buddy!! Cheers J
I was too man. I sip on 107 alot and it just fell flat when compared. Cheers buddy.
@@TheMashandDrum I picked up a NCF store pick OWA and it's night and day better than a standard bottle. I think OWA is feeling the pressure of demand trying to be met, at least to me.
@@whiskeygrunt772 Yeah..I think the real value of the Weller's are better in store picks. Most of them are miles above the standard. Cheers!
I was really hoping that OWA 107 would come out #1 only one I can get sometimes
I thought it would have done better than it did. really between the OWA and CYPB it could have gone either way.
I was hoping for the same outcome on the 107.....can't get CYPB or Full Proof anywhere around my place without going to secondary and they are up in the $400-$500 per bottle...just crazy. Still love the 107 and the 12.
@@kctopbbq yeah this isn't to say that 107 is a bad bourbon. It's good and i sip it all the time. But when put up against these there are noticeable differences in flavors and finish. I really thought it would get 2nd place honestly.
Time capsule. Today I was the “winner” of an allocated bourbon raffle and had the opportunity to buy CYOB for $600 and FP for $300. I passed. $150 < in today’s market I’d buy two of the FP.
Wow... wonder what the FP would be like with some additional age? Best of both worlds for your top 2, or would it round off the excitement too much?
Not sure...I think being barrel proof the Full Proof sweetness shines. If its aged longer than might as well be William Larue Weller. lol But it was an interesting blind. I hated the CYPB last year but this years was alot better.
@@TheMashandDrum oh, good point on the WLW... duh...
Got a full proof store pick, but really wanna find a non store pick to compare to...
I've only had one store pick and it was even better than this one so if you know a store that does good picks than it can be really good.
First of all. Where dos you find all those bottles? I can't find any here
The SR and Antique are available here in Ohio. The 12 I got a couple years ago. The Weller full proof and cypb I borrowed from friends that were lucky enough to get them.
Just saw a bottle of full proof this weekend at a local liquor store going for $700. Things are getting out of hand.
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I live in Mansfield, how’d you find the full proof and 12 year? I too can get 107 for days, but the others are mythical to me at this point.
The full proof I borrowed from a friend. The Weller 12 I got a while back in NY. But yeah they are not easy to get unfortunately.
Jason, loved the video BUT, tell me you just didn't HYPE up the fullproof? I would imagine if the 12 was 117 it wouldn't even be close?
Yeah truth is I wanted to hate or at least be dissapointed by the full proof. But in all honesty the fact that it's non chill filtered really makes a difference in this one compared to the others. If the 12 was 117 it's basically William larue Weller from BTAC even though it's aged in a different spot in the warehouse it wouldn't be too far off. I will say the CYPB is not nearly worth what the secondary is commanding.
@@TheMashandDrum I appreciate your time & honesty !!!
What’s the top price you’d pay for either the 12 year or the Full Proof? $150? Would you go as high as $200?
I'd go 150-175 for a full proof. 12 year I'm not paying more than 100
Nice review lil drummer boy! When do you think your WFP pick will be out?
They keep telling me any day now. 🙄
I bitch a tremendous amount about the lcbo in Ontario. ( our government run liquor store. Only option in Ontario) the one thing they do well is stock Weller SR and 107 a few times a year. Sells out in a heartbeat but if you get lucky the SR is 39 bucks and 107 is 60. Canadian. So like 75 and 120 American. Both are great. I even won a 12 in a lottery allocation around xmas for 56 bucks Canadian amazing juice. Gonna have to go pour some 107 now
One would think if they are so popular? Why not make them more available and affordable? I guess I will never get to try or get the 107, 12, or proof. Since the pappys are definitely unicorns.
That's my biggest gripe with buffalo Trace. They just dont make it available. Or the distributors don't.
I guess for me I just have to settle for the younger more affordable wheated bourbons... the Larceny, MM cask, Wyoming. I do have the W reserve pretty darn good one...
@@FldigzFLdigz nothing wrong with those!
Thank you my brother. Well tomorrow is UFC 246 so I will definitely will be sipping the goods... cheers and happy Bourbon hunting... John.Rengifo@wnco.com feel free to shoot me good recommendations in the Florida Market...
I live in Ohio also and get disgusted that we can't ever find most of the Weller's
Ive given up on Weller. Either i see it and can't get it (stupid secondary prices, and i mean STUPID) or just can't get it at retail.
Yeah I don't blame you. The secondary prices on all of these are just ridiculous. The special reserve I've seen priced at over 100. It's a 30 dollar bourbon.
@@TheMashandDrum it's a Christmas miracle! I finally bought a Weller 107 for under $50 today!!
@@aukemist nice!!! It is a miracle. Lol. Cheers and enjoy!
I made it to about 1:30 before getting up at pouring a glass of 107. I actually scored a Weller Full Proof on Friday in L.A. for $41.99(and a 2018 GTS @ $199)
Damn man. That's awesome. Nice work.
Haha just starting the review, I’m guessing by how much of that Full proof is gone I already know the winner.
Its actually not my full proof. It was only about the 3rd time trying it.
Nice, hope I can get my hands on one. Weller 107 is my hands down favorite of other 4, sad to see it get 4th... Great review though🤙🏼
I dont know why but the labels on the Weller Line always look slapped on with bubbles under the label they look sloppy
Yeah I've been seeing them more and more. Definitely sloppy.
Can you do a Jim Beam edition for newbies
Yeah thats a great idea
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Thank you , I look forward to seeing the video, and I'm gonna subscribe. Good looking out bro!
@@3gotti305 Appreciate that man! Cheers!
Cheers for that vid Jason it's a shame Weller is impossible to find in the UK would love to try some. On a different tangent stagg Jr how long would you suggest leaving it in the glass before drinking, and how much does oxidation in the bottle affect the taste once it say gets past the label? Cheers for the videos and I'll try to catch a live again feed over Xmas!
My dad loves reserve but I wanna do sum for him for Christmas and get him all the base lineup but this would be a lot of cash and he would drink it all in one sitting lmao
Pretty sure 107 got screwed since it went first in the tasting.
Thats what I thought to but even going back to it, it didn't hold up as well as I thought it would. Still a great bourbon.
@@TheMashandDrum or a batch problem ?
I'm so over the Weller game. Only see SR at retail and pass on principal. They come out with Full Proof and it's nowhere to be found. How much was actually released? Sorry for the soapbox rant. Great comparison review as always Jason.
Listen I get it..thats why I started saying Weller brings out excitement and frustration. Full Proof is still trickling out..not sure how much...I had to borrow this bottle. Appreciate you watching as always. This was my only shot to do all in one video so I figured what the hell.
Misinformation is probably the reason Weller is so hard to find. Having the same or similar mash bill and being the same distiller does NOT make it the same bourbon. It's a good wheater for the money (retail). It's a shame. It was a nice table bourbon.
I would agree..as soon as Pappy was associated with it things got ridiculous. Now they want to introduce a single barrel version...I wish they would make the rest more available before adding new selections.
@@TheMashandDrum Well, they are doing a huge expansion. We'll see...
107 doesn't taste good alone and especially with other whisky's. Special Reserve tastes better. 107 is the worst of the batch GLAD you pointed out it tastes terrible. Its always bitter.
Doesn't "non-chill filtered" just mean..."filtered?" It's "non" a lot of things filtered. It's non-pop tart filtered. It's non-apple sauce filtered. That reminds me of the Mitch Hedberg (RIP) joke... "Why do they call corn on the cob, corn on the cob... They should call it corn and call everything else corn off the cob. You wouldn't cut my arm off and call it Mitch. Then put it back on me and call me Mitch all together."
First off Mitch hedberg was a genius. Lol. It is filtered to remove barrel sediment but they don't chill it and remove the compounds and extra flavors so it does make a big difference
Weller 12 kind of sucks. Rebel Distiller's Collection is better than most of these.