David Gilmour's Evolving Guitar Style (From A Saucerful of Secrets to Division Bell)
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In this video I talk briefly about David Gilmour's guitar style evolution and his role as a member in the band. How he mastered both the role as a supportive guitarist and a band leader. And took the band to new heights with a not so sophisticated, but highly impactful playing style.
Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
0:50 - Gilmour's first contribution
2:57 - Writing their own material
3:43 - Echoes guitar parts
5:26 - Similarities and influences
6:52 - Wish You Were Here
8:13 - 14 Day Guitar Challenge Plug
8:32 - Comfortably numb
10:29 - Marooned
12:04 - Conclusion
13:09 - Skillshare
14:13 - The 14 Day Guitar Challenge
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first time i actually can get something like this
Division Bell by God
Gilmour copied Syd in the early days, which is why ge got a lapsteel guitar. Don't forget Nile Song, More Blues, Spanish Piece. Rick Wright style peaked in 1970 during the Zabriskie Point session in Rome.
The Echoes thing is Ravel's Bolero. You skipped the Animals Tour, which was the most important learning curve for David Gilmour. Live, his Guitar playing started to eat up the band entirely in a negative way. The pieces sound endless and to be honest, I can understand why the audiences would get bored and seek entertainment in fireworks. From the Momentary Lapse of Reason, he couldn't be bothered anymore. Songs like Sorrow are verging insult. While Pink Floyd was all about changing rhythm (Emily Play, Funky part in Echoes), Gilmour just can't be asked. High Hopes, well, I hoped the Division Bell (a late realization of the album's flaws?) would have sounded like High Hopes but no. Lazy Gilmour taking easy short cuts. The single Take It Back is particularly bad. This 5 minute piece should occupy no more than a short slot in a Medley on the B side. Marooned has no loop? Give it to a DJ, let's see if Marooned has no loop. Bring in some modernity into Space Rock. How could they be satisfied with this? Keep Talking has a loop and tbey keep it on. My God I could talk endlessly of everything that went wrong in Division Bell.
In echoes the higher harmony is sung by Wright, not Waters.
David even stopped performing it live after Richard Wright’s passing. Which was 13 years ago to the day coincidentally.
Came here to say this. Wright is already overlooked enough as is, lol.
Thats a little problem I have with his videos
Some weird moments of bad research.
Wright
As soon as I heard that in the video I checked to see if anyone else had picked it up, I’m glad you pointed it out
his tone on animals is unmatched imo, his second solo on dogs is pure music bliss
Pigs (Three Different Ones) as well!
Siamese Dream by The Smashing Pumpkins and Loveless by My Bloody Valentine have my favourite guitar tones but every guitar solo on Animals are all equally some of my all time favourite guitar solos from any band
I might do a video about the guitars on Animals at some point too. That's my favorite PF album
@@LieLikesMusic please do, i find its often under appreciated because it fills the gap between wish you were here and the wall and is seen as too "progy" and "self indulgent" when in reality Animals is one of the bands most creative efforts and portrays a message which still resonates true today. Also thanks for responding never thought one of these would ever reach you
My favorite solo tone of Gilmours is the one on the Pulse version of Sorrow.
Not many musicians can make people tear up by just playing, no lyrics. That's what makes their music so special to me.
Totally agree. Thats exactly what has drawn me in. Not the lyrics it's just the music itself. It envelopes me. Actually Marooned is something I can listen to, & litterly feel. Their music will travel through history ❤️
Pink Floyd wouldn’t exist with any of them especially Rick homie doesn’t get enough love
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
absolutely
Rick Wright used to have to tune Roger and Syds bass and guitar , before gigs, back in the day!!
He DEFINITELY, 💯 doesn't get enough credit,
He's also classically trained and accomplished,
(No mean feat, in & of itself) and , although he did kinda blow a gasket (pardon the pun fun) with cocaine and self deprecating behavior later on, which made him difficult to work with,
He STILL does not get enough credit and dues for his role in their compositions, IMHO
overall keyboardists are so understimated and yet so valuable to rock bands. His part in Shine on You Crazy Diamond for instance is astonishing!
The best solo ive ever heard from DG is echoes. But not the studio version, the Pompeii version. It's the most perfect peace of music ive ever heard and it bothers me why no one ever talks about it.
Even a 3 hour long video cannot do justice to his playing. I know he wasn't a virtuoso but his sense of melody was just incredible. I think that comfortably numb solo is the reason I started playing guitar and his phrasing has been the single most important thing that I've learned. Just playing random notes sounds boring but when I think about phrasing and timing, those same notes sound infinitely better. I just think it's crazy how lucky I am. I get to listen to Pink Floyd everyday.
I really liked the way you broke down ‘’Marooned.’’ Not a fan of Division Bell, but love that song. You nailed it
You didn’t mention Animals. In my humble opinion the guitar solos on Animals are his best work.
I've not watched the video yet but that's mental! Animals is possibly his most rocking guitar work, very aggressive for Gilmour
It was a bit too much to cover so many albums in a 15 minute video. So I might consider doing a follow-up where I talk about Animals yes
@@LieLikesMusic
That'd be brilliant, I understand :)
Nothing about his solos on dark side of the moon? The first time he really found his own voice on guitar...
Agreed 100%.... Time set the stage for his later work. No mention of Animals either. The Solo in Dogs/Pigs is absolutely tremendous. The list goes on
Meddle and Obscured by Clouds have some tasty lead guitar : Not busy with too many notes but fat hairy tones.
Calling Gilmour the current leader of Pink Floyd is incorrect because both himself and Waters have stated that the band has no right to exist without Wright. (yes, I know, ironic in Roger's case)
Sir Gilmour’s solo on Biding my time is amazing! He’s the guitarist that showed me that you don’t need to shred to be great!
Same here. Note choice is just as important as speed and timing. If not more important
AMLOR and Division Bell are super underrated. A lot of instances of Gilmour shining through.
AMLOR is a stinker!. The Revision Hell( sic) is not great either.Gilmour without Waters has zero worthwhile to sing about. Wright used to sing the harmony parts not Waters.
100% my first live show i experienced of theirs was AMLOR and learing to fly among others are awesome
Contrary to popular opinion, I agree with AMLOR and Division Bell being great albums. I prefer the Gilmour material musically. Lyrically the albums are a not as thematic, which puts people off. Musically they are fantastic albums. I am of the opinion that had Sid not left to be replaced by David, the band would be an interesting footnote who influenced other musicians and hardcore prog rock fans, but one that ended by 1973 or so.
David's contribution was pulling the sound more mainstream. This also gave waters, as the primary writer of lyrics, the ability to add more relatable to the general listener, but still deep themes.
Pink Floyd v3 Lost the deep album themes, but we saw what happened with the Final Cut. When Waters is left to do it alone, it is a bit of a mess. It takes Wright, Gilmour, and Mason to keep Waters balanced l.
I think AMLOR and Division Bell
Are great highley underrated albums. I love them, i think Mister
TMH might be Roger Waters in
Disguise 👎😁😂🤣if anything
He is the stinker 😝.
All hail Sir Dave ☺😎
It was actually Richard Wright who sung the higher harmony on Echoes, not Roger Waters. It's one of the few songs Richard Wright sung in.
You say few but he sung quite a bit. A major part of Dark Side of the Moons feel is from his vocal performances against Gilmour's and the Harmonizing in Us and them is another example of his singing adding to it all. Sure after DSOTM He took a backseat but for the first half of their discography he contributed a lot more vocally than people realize.
Marooned is very much a memorable song
yes i absolutely agree. One of the most beautiful instrumentals ive ever had the pleasure of listening to.
Agreed. Its such a brilliant bit of music. He puts so much emotion in his playing
then why I don't remember almost any of it?
@@JulioLeonFandinho because you probably do not like it.
I feel like the first minute or so is the most memorable. Great song. My appreciation has grown a lot since I first listened to it.
Really surprised nothing was mentioned about his Solo album in '78...I think that album really encompasses everything about his lineage of thinking and definitely the height of his blues/rock solo Chops.
The higher harmony on Echoes is sung by Wright, not Waters who does not sing on the track.
I would also talk about Fat Old Sun. It's one of the first melodic and long outro solos he wrote and its really fun to look back on as it's after A Saucerful of Secrets but before Meddle
One of the first solos I ever learned. Well, most of it. Atom Heart was great when I was a teenager carrying an acoustic everywhere. It has some great acoustic parts.
‘If’ is a good one to learn for a beginner to learn proper picking.
I also like how one can hear Gilmour’s chops coming together on the band jam during the title track of Atom Heart.
@@CorbCorbin I agree!!
It was the low E, A, D, and G strings on the acoustic guitar in Comfortably Numb that used lighter strings, not just the low E string. Basically using just the unwound strings from a 12-string guitar set. Otherwise, Hey You would not sound right.
A lot of producers use that trick to get a certain acoustic sound. It’s such little touches that can make huge differences.
Not to mention, the Ovation factor...
Yeah, it’s called Nashville tuning when you use the lightest strings from a 12 string pack. 💀🔥
David Gilmour is SO good, that literally every note and every phrase he played, was the best possible outcome. His songs and playing were absolutely perfect. His guitar work on Dogs is exceptionally impressive to me
I loved division bell and I've been a fan since the early days
Dave Gilmour is such an outstanding guitarist. He's up there with the very best!!
Awesome, now we need a video for Syd Barrett’s awesome idiosyncratic guitar style!
I like the idea :)
Very Cool Vid - and i enjoy your graphic approach.
Great video man. Gilmour is definitely a point of inspiration for me. He knows how to make every note count!
“Marooned is not a memorable song.” Weird to hear that about Marooned. It’s been my favorite Pink Floyd song since I discovered it years ago. I thought for sure more people would feel the same way. It’s such an incredible song and has a lot of emotion.
Also cool to learn it was recorded in so few takes. I really enjoy “Cosmic 13” a demo released on Wright’s birthday recently.
I don't even consider it Pink Floyd
Marooned is amazing and unique, it proves that lyrics aren't required to make a Pink Floyd classic
David is still one of my absolute favourite guitarists and one of my biggest influences on guitar, he has such a great tone and is one of the GOATs for a reason
Amazingly well put together video!
That’s me! Woah I’m in a video
Your not the real David Gilmore the real David Gilmore would never list roger as a friend on his RUclips channel
@@rowdynibe4481 lol
No, this is about David GilmOUR.
Pink Floyd wouldn’t have been the same without any of the five.
Agreed 💯...
Syd got them there..... David stepped in and saved a sinking ship;
Later on,
Rick made the compositions beautiful, along with Dave (of course) and Roger made them think with those incredible lyrics and themes...
Of course, Nick always was there, Solid, laying down that groove , too
@@klaytonvonkluge4905 Mason is the greatest support any band could ask for. He is too modest to admit it but he is one of the best drummers in rock history and there are fills that literally rip the breath out of me. Meddle was a great example of Mason truly hitting a Supreme level of playing imo. And he only got better.
Wright and Mason were severely underrated. But they were all vital to the band.
@@HoudiniFontmeister yep, they’re one of those magical combinations that usually only come along once or twice during a genre or era of music, stylistically speaking, and they also seem to be aloof of their own skills & talents, for instance;
I don’t know about you, but I actually love ALL the old stuff, even some compositions the Floyd themselves can’t stand
(Atom Heart and Umma Gumma spring to mind)
I even like some of the tracks that most Floydians dismiss as “B-side “ or throwaways
@@klaytonvonkluge4905 umma gumma has the weakest tracks imo but is still filled with amazing work. I like atom heart mother a lot and see the work there as the beginnings of what meddle became. The evolution is a joy because most of the compositions are actually solid. The first 2 albums are amazing in their own unique way too. Most of their bsides and demos are incredible. It gives insight into how much they had to remove for limitations of the medium. Being fully in tune with modern music over the past 30 years you can hear so much of their music being influential to artists to this day.
Cool thumbnail pic, old Gilmour giving young David some pointers
Great work man! I was thinking about this since 2010
Marooned is my all time favorite floyd song, it's so damn beautiful
Cool! Because I watched "Wider Horizons" I started a portrait from David a few days ago. He sure is amazing. Thanks for making this video and I'll check out Skillshare
you should post the portrait on reddit!
Awesome Jackie! Thanks for watching as always. Have you posted the portrait on your IG?
@@LieLikesMusic It's not ready yet, but I will post it on my IG when it is! 😀
Good video man, love the explanations between the songs!
Thank you. Is there a band or an artist you want me to talk about in the future?
@@LieLikesMusic Pink floyd is my favourite😁 especially david gilmour
Atom Hearth Mother’s solo is not even mentioned, but in my opinion, it is the first ambitious one from Gilmour, and it’s a major milestone in his style.
Just stopped in to say that thumbnail is cleverly edited. Bravo
7:20 Gilmour wrote the main riff, and played the guitars on the track, but Waters wrote the chords and melody himself, as well as the lyrics. In terms of the composition, it was only the main riff which was Gilmour.
People don't like to give Roger props for musical composition only his lyrics. How dare you. lol.
That was truly a collaboration and it made it seem like Gilmour was doing all the work there the way it was said here lol. Gilmour is a God among men and his guitar parts were legitimately some of the best that PF had to offer. But Floyd was made off the sound of all members and Waters was not only a gifted lyricist. Now without PF Waters lyrics fall flat with none of the soundscape of PF.
In the context of evaluating one players evolution and composition being as accurate as possible is vital.
Great idea and execution!
Thanks man. I'm glad you liked it
On the song Echoes it's actually Gilmour and Richard Wright doing the vocals (see the Live at Pompeii video).
You said that on Echoes Gilmour sung the lower harmony to Waters' higher harmony. Echoes was sung by Gilmour and Wright?
i think unlike a lot of people, i am not polarised by a good or bad era, i take all their music based on merit across its whole, i love and hate some of the oldest stuff in equal measure, but moving through their music upto the last, i am a fan of it all for different reasons and different moods depending on how i feel or want to feel! i discount peoples influence on which is best and worse with and without waters or barrett and recognise that the band still feel as passionate about the music and syd's loss regardless of their fame.
In short they are brilliant even in their individual ways, i could not think of a time now without their music and Gilmours contribution in it, comfortably numb live is still one of the most amazing guitar solos ever, with High hopes and marooned being personal favourites, but includes so many of their songs from every era!
Waters is a fool for feuding with Gilmour. Depriving the fans of their spectacular collaboration potential.
they are both part of the feud, theyve become comfortably numb to it but both are stubborn, waters then and gilmour now! but its ok, its the end of something magical and each individual is doing ok!
Great video! David Gilmour is one the best and most influential guitar players ever! Also, I think Wright is singing the higher voice in Echoes 😊
Good video. And you choose a path to illustrate this evolution..but there are obviously several alternatives to show both his changin style and sounds!
Take care 👍🏼
4:09 - wrong. Gilmour sings lower harmonies to **Richard Wright's** higher register. Gilmour has often said that the harmonies on this song between him and Richard were the best that Floyd ever sounded.
where did you get the recording of marooned from? the altered pitch really interests me, being my favourite floyd song
love ur videos.
Thank you.
I think The Narrow Way from Ummagumma is one of his best and most overlooked works.
Interesting. Ummagumma is one of the albums by PF that I haven't listened to all that much.
@@LieLikesMusic A very experimental and abstract album to say the least but Grantchester Meadows and The Narrow Way parts 1 & 3 are absolute gems.
Great tune! My favorite from that album. 😎
Gilmour is on the Mt Rushmore of great Rock Guitar players.
4:10. The higher harmony for Echoes was sung by Rick Wright.
My absolute favorite artist!
Great. He's in my top 5 or 10 list.
Great thumbnail!
Haven’t even watched the video but the thumbnail is dope
terrific content Lie Likes Music. I killed the thumbs up on your video. Continue to keep up the superb work.
Thanks man. Appreciate it :) You making videos too? Saw the one you made on serial killers
Not familiar with Mars Volta. Can you tell me which of their songs was inspired by Echoes?
Is the Epiphone Les Paul worth it?
9:45 No tremolo (whammy ugh) bar in the solos on Comfortably Numb, because he recorded them using his '58 Les Paul Gold Top, not the Strat. Big tonal difference.
Nice video. But surprised to see a video about Gilmour's guitar work without any mention of Animals or Run Like Hell (or his solo albums). Also, personal opinion: Marooned plays very frequently in my head, so I guess it's quite memorable.
David's early style is more clearly shown by the amazing leads of Careful With That Axe, Eugene on Ummagumma. Let There Be More Light is a droning song where he is playing in a more Indian, sitar-like style and is not a good example of his early playing . Fat Old Sun is a great example of the next phase, as he started playing melodic solos
Seems like several peeps here in the comments mention Fat Old Sun as a great example of his early style. Thanks for adding additional info :)
On The Wall (comfortably numb, hey you, etc), Gilmour used Nashville tuned guitar (ADG up an octave) in addition to the high E tuned two octaves up.
I appreciate the passion you've clear put into this - but I would say, it feels a little rushed overall. Particularly, it's kinda hard to jump from the first song on Saucerful of Secrets all the way to echoes in one bound - especially because the years between the two are really where the band found themselves. For example, Gilmour has an entire quarter of Ummagumma which he came up with as an instrumental, which seems a little odd to leave out. Atom Heart Mother also seems important to mention - since it's where we really get a feel for Gilmour's songwriting on Fat old Sun, and the title track was in many ways a dress rehearsal for echoes.
Similarly, avoiding Momentary Lapse of Reason seems strange, since it was for all intents and purposes Gilmour's first outing leading Pink Floyd, as does his first two solo outings.
Honestly, in my view I feel like a 45 minute to an hour analysis would really do the subject justice - and give you a chance to engage with several fascinating periods in Gilmour's career.
can you do a video on Roger Fakhr? He has a fascinating story that I'd love to learn more about
Hearing is early work in Jokers Wild is cool too
4:59 - good explanation of an interval )
Everywhere I go on RUclips I just have to leave the comment, good old Dave...
I just clicked to tell you how good that photoshop is. 💯
Great video, but I have to disagree in regards that Pink Floyd would be nothing without Gilmour. I mean Syd was quite something and each member had their own talent to succeed without each other
David Gilmore would be nothing without syd
That's true. I just wanted to say that to express how profound his influence is. I think all the members played a similar role in their own sense.
Pink Floyd would not be Pink Floyd without Syd Barrett. But also, ironically, Pink Floyd would not be Pink Floyd with Syd Barrett.
Nice
Gilmour's work is not limited to the guitar alone, a great experimenter of sounds has also been able to use all the techniques to create ethereal, majestic, distressing contexts, that is to say the entire sound heritage of Pink Floyd, a Guitarist like every guitarist should be modern today again.
We need a post Pink Floyd chapter, that's when he took it to the next level
Marooned is incredibly memorable
Gilmore saved Pink Floyd. I saw them in Hyde Park London when I was seventeen.
After that bought all the records.
I think "Set the Controls" was the only song that features all 5 members, despite at different sessions.
Nobody else does bends and legato like him
I think on an island (album), wearing the inside out and high hopes, would've been worth mentioning; about something, idk exactly, just something...
Nice authenric ealy gilmour signature there.
Thank you so much. Gilmour is my guitar god and my kindred. As a player, he is the man I most hearken to with my playing. He is a part of my DNA now.
Lol that's great. Same here. I want to learn more of his/their songs at some point. But right now I'm leaning more towards heavier and more technical music.
Should’ve talked about dogs :(
I might do that too at some point. There's just too many great songs.
Lol the thumb is fucking genius
no love for his solo from the final cut ),: god tier solo
VOLTA!!!
Wasn’t Syd still with the band during Saucerful?
I believe he only did Jugband Blues on that album
And also provides guitar parts on set the controls for the heart of the sun studio
@@playboi1123 Yes he left the band (or got left behind - whatever you think happened) in 1968. And yes he did contribute to the album. But just one or two songs from what I remember.
Syd plays slide and rithm guitar on remember a day, guitar on set the controls,and guitar and vocals on jugband blues.
The Final Cut
castellorization and raise my rent are a couple standouts on his solo career
Haven't listened much to his solo career yet, but I certainly will now. Cheers
I like the song when Pink plays guitar. I think the name of the song is Floyd
Love the thumb nail, daddy.
The group is nothing without David Gilmour's guitar playing is open to discussion.
I always thought Paul Kossoff served as some inspiration to Gilmour, particularly in parts of The Wall
Marooned is epic
How can you not mention anything off The Final Cut?
Because thats a Roger Waters Production
@@chinito398 He still played guitar on it
You should use a Strat when talking DG :p
Marooned would have been perfect for the tv show Lost
Check out this link! Gilmour style guitars!
Wright sings the higher part on echoes not Waters!
The. Wall Live in Berlin 1990 by Roger Waters and Cyndi Lauper Steve GOD
I think the video title is too big of a theme to talk about. You are not really talking about his evolution about techniques or gear, just pointing out interesting stuff. Cool video but I would change the title.
And I think you overestimated Gilmour saying that Pink Floyd wouldnt be that much without him. Pink Floyd is the perfect sum of the members. Waters composed a lot of classic stuff that would not exist
Waters wrote all of WYWH except the riff, which was Gilmour. If he got that wrong in his research, no wonder he might think Pink Floyd wouldn't be much without him - he's crediting Gilmour with things Roger actually did.
Let’s collaborate!
dude, you and I must be connected in some creepy way, csuse you've posted this right in the middle of my sort of month long Pink Floyd discovery journey =P
now, I'm still one of those people who really doesn't get all of the fuss (for context, I couldn't get through The Beatles album and I barely managed Thriller by Michael Jacksob, stilll gathering the courage to try a full Radiohead album...I'm just not nerdy enough for he greats I guess) - I did get through The Wall - three times at least: the movie, one in depth review and the 1990 concert, I think that's probably Floyd's most accessible stuff for us who prefer lyrics and storytelling to big instrumentals
anyhoo, I actually agree that Dave is mostly the brains if not the storyteller in the band, and he also seems like the nicest person, I don't think even Roger can deny that, and he is an amazing guitarrist both live ane in the srudio (not to mention his voice has aged much better than Roger's)
I was just watching the Live 8 concert before this II definitely missed that back then) and Wish You Were Here was totally rhe highlight for me (it was the only Pink Floyd song I knew besides Aniother Brick Pt 2 unti last mobth anyway) - it's such a simple and iconic thing, no thrills about it, no megashow, but it's an acoustic player's wet dream (way better than Wonderwall if you ask me) and they had an acoustic solo in there - blew my mind - so I agree, that acoustic riff is Dave's biggest acgievement of all, because even though I still can't do hammer ons and I cab't say I'm a fan of the band, I wanna learn that - bad
(I know you're on electric but please never play that again, it sounds okay but not right)
The aoloa on Comfortably Numb are also spectacular for sure, but what I love in that song is the melody and simplicity in it, much like in Mother or Hey You which are very simple compared to the grandiosity of The Wall, which I tend to gravitate to more, those are the songs that I personally like to jam to, both on acoustic and now on uke too (I love playing Pibk Floyd on uke, you lose some of the nuance, but it's kind of really cool)
I wonder what your take on Dave's solo work is, I've personally never heard any of it,,,,
Haha what a fun coincidence. And yes The Wall is probably a good starter album if you like long-tail stories. Piper At The Gates of Dawn, their first album with Syd Barrett also had some one-off stories per songs. The Gnome being one example. Although they are quite oddball I really like em. It's far away from the Pink Floyd most people know though.
And about the electric guitar I played for Wish You Were Here, I was supposed to borrow an acoustic guitar from a friend. But that never happened. Definitely agreed with you. It sounds off on the electric. But I kept the part in for versatility's sake.
I've never listened much to his solo stuff either. Might do it at some point. Thanks for writing and watching.
@@LieLikesMusic might tty Piper one of these days - must confess I am a little intimidated when I hear people say thar Floyd were even more experimental back then
well, that's okay, I don't think I'll ever own an electric so you obviously are not required to have an acoustic, and we do get the drift there
I know you are more in the music side than the lyrics side (I can't quite separate them haha) but I have had the question of "which one is Pink?" going round in my head because that does seem to be a recurring theme, at least with Waters lyrics, and while it would be odd...Pink Floyd could actually be a person's name...do you think it's on purpose?
15:08 not true; Rick Wright sings the higher harmony .. JS