Gaius Memmius, Praetor 58 BCE

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • Gaius Memmius was a man with big dreams and middling talent, who strove to be acknowledged in politics, poetry, and philosophy. He had a solid start, but eventually managed to compass his own destruction by contriving a highly illegal election-rigging scheme. When this scandal went public, and Memmius himself explained the sordid details, he created a major political crisis in Rome and the ramifications of this scandal are enough by themselves to make Memmius historically significant.
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Комментарии • 41

  • @danielchequer5842
    @danielchequer5842 Месяц назад +73

    Bro is reviewing the entire senate

    • @papageitaucher618
      @papageitaucher618 Месяц назад +3

      He*

    • @Carelock
      @Carelock Месяц назад +3

      We should be so lucky!

    • @TheFutureMike
      @TheFutureMike Месяц назад +4

      Like Tiberius, those who stood in Thersites' way were tried and swiftly dealt with.

  • @CestLePanda
    @CestLePanda Месяц назад +17

    Anyone find Thersites' content awesome both because of the educational quality as well as the simple, non- gimmicky format in which it is presented? As in, not trying too hard with cheesy background music or trying to brand his content with crazy visuals? Oh, also, his direct, and sometimes sardonic 🙊, way of speaking.

  • @jakegarvin7634
    @jakegarvin7634 Месяц назад +9

    "I'm sorry bro, I need to destroy my life and make everybody hate me. You were just in the way..."

  • @CarolineBearoline
    @CarolineBearoline Месяц назад +9

    It's crazy how hard this man failed in personally/ politically important events. The fact that his bungling became historically significant enough for me to be learning about present-day is hilarious to me, though 😁

    • @parastroika2393
      @parastroika2393 Месяц назад +3

      "You are, without doubt, the worst senator I've ever heard of" - @CarolineBearoline
      "......But you have heard of me" - Gaius Memmius

  • @restitvtororbis5330
    @restitvtororbis5330 Месяц назад +15

    I think it's actually pretty obvious what he expected to accomplish when he revealed all the incriminating evidence and exposed himself and basically everyone associated with him.
    You mentioned how he wanted to be known as a great writer by writing erotica (smut) about his own amorous escapades, so clearly he believed that the greatest literary works were based on lived experience. I think his plan was to publicly shame and embarrass himself so completely that he could write a humiliation fetish story that would read like Greek tragedy as his magnum opus.

  • @1979Heyjude
    @1979Heyjude Месяц назад +3

    Another masterpiece. Thanks Doc!

  • @iseeyou5061
    @iseeyou5061 Месяц назад +7

    How Senate self owned themself Episode 173

  • @chrishoover3395
    @chrishoover3395 Месяц назад +9

    gaius memeus rizzler

  • @ukaszgrzesik7231
    @ukaszgrzesik7231 Месяц назад +2

    I find it fascinating that more than 2 thousand years ago Athens already had formalised legal protectction of landmarks based on their association with historical figures. Was that common?

    • @ThersitestheHistorian
      @ThersitestheHistorian  Месяц назад +6

      By the late Classical period, it seems to have been a public concern, at least for learned people. When Alexander destroyed Thebes early in his career, he was very careful to make sure that the hut belonging to the poet Pindar was preserved. By the time of the late Republic, Athens had accepted its role as a living museum and university town, so the Athenians were stricter about preservation than most places. Of course, places like Delphi and Olympia were even more stringent due to religious significance. As usual, however, we don't know a ton about the other communities in Greece, but it does appear that historical preservation was a priority.

    • @ukaszgrzesik7231
      @ukaszgrzesik7231 Месяц назад +1

      @@ThersitestheHistorian Thanks!

  • @TryToHardForFun
    @TryToHardForFun Месяц назад +1

    Love listening to these deep dives of these individuals. Really puts into perspective both how little and how much has changed in human history for both people and governnments!

  • @konst80hum
    @konst80hum 8 дней назад

    You do great work sir...

  • @amyas80
    @amyas80 Месяц назад +1

    Brilliant! Thank you! Seems like the little gifts for Saturnalia are coming in early this season. Might watch it asecond time with the "Curb your Enthusiasm"-Theme playing in the background......
    Btw, while we don't know what happened to Memmius in exile, it seems certain that his son of the same name was (suffect) Consul in 34 BCE, at a relatively young age apparently. Memmius' major screw-ups didn't do lasting damage to the whole family franchise. Or maybe he actually did return to Rome early and somehow got on the good side of Caesar and/or the new triumvirs again, and may have even facilitated young Caius' career.

  • @njb1126
    @njb1126 29 дней назад

    Thomas Robert Shannon Broughton would be proud of this series.

  • @gabrielethier2046
    @gabrielethier2046 Месяц назад

    Impressive output for Romans of renown

  • @Carelock
    @Carelock Месяц назад

    The Comitia Centuriata hereby nominates Imperator Thersites for Consul.

  • @VulnerableBede1
    @VulnerableBede1 Месяц назад +2

    Once youve finshed all of these, would you consider redoing your tier list of renowned civil war era romans?

    • @VulnerableBede1
      @VulnerableBede1 Месяц назад +1

      Or a caesars civil war generals tier list

    • @restitvtororbis5330
      @restitvtororbis5330 Месяц назад +4

      I second this wholeheartedly. The narrative that Ceasar and Pompey were surrounded by incompetent lieutenants and allies has been pretty much blown apart by this series. There's even some hidden gems that never got much historical recognition because nobody ever remembers the people who do a solid job and don't cause problems.

    • @ThersitestheHistorian
      @ThersitestheHistorian  Месяц назад +2

      I did a tier-ranking of figures from Caesar's Civil War. Once I have enough background and the books that I need to investigate it more thoroughly, I will cover the civil wars from 43-31 as well.

    • @VulnerableBede1
      @VulnerableBede1 Месяц назад

      @ThersitestheHistorian yeah I mean a new one with all the added people you've done in the last year

  • @nerogamer1786
    @nerogamer1786 Месяц назад

    keep going king and i hope you find joy in making this content...someone actully trying to make good content for once

  • @bwg4608
    @bwg4608 Месяц назад

    That's interesting what you said about Ahenobarbus. I read an older article on JSTOR recently, Alfred Burns' Pompey's Strategy and Domitius' Stand at Corfinium, that argues, among other things, that Ahenobarbus actually was the leader of the Optimates at the outbreak of the civil war against Caesar.
    Any chance of a Romans of Renown on Ahenobarbus someday?

    • @ThersitestheHistorian
      @ThersitestheHistorian  Месяц назад +2

      I will definitely cover Ahenobarbus in the relatively near future. Thanks for the recommendation of the Burns article.

  • @Schnitzelfox
    @Schnitzelfox Месяц назад +1

    mayweee one goal of his was to show the people how corrupt the senate and elections are, wich could increase demand for more anti coruption legislation.

    • @ThersitestheHistorian
      @ThersitestheHistorian  Месяц назад +1

      He might have talked himself into that, but it is a super long shot to convince someone to entrust you with fixing a problem after you openly confess that you to having actively colluded to worsen the problem.

  • @papageitaucher618
    @papageitaucher618 Месяц назад

    Wikipedia says he stayed in Mytilene after Athens.

  • @ranchopatriot
    @ranchopatriot Месяц назад

    What a scoundrel.

  • @alanpennie
    @alanpennie Месяц назад +1

    *Mordax* is a very cool cognomen.
    I wonder how the dude acquired it.
    Maybe he was an exceptionally annoying tribune.

  • @Carelock
    @Carelock Месяц назад

    From Jim Cornette to Joe Lieberman, Thersites is the Dictator of the Deep Cut 😂

  • @bothewolf3466
    @bothewolf3466 Месяц назад +1

    so......how do u REALLY feel about Liddy, cuz....its not so clear. I'm trying to read context but you're making it difficult here.

  • @ranchopatriot
    @ranchopatriot Месяц назад

    G Gordan Liddy photo. Funny.

  • @henkstersmacro-world
    @henkstersmacro-world Месяц назад

    👍👍👍

  • @BigMamaJama
    @BigMamaJama 24 дня назад

    What a joke. He is a flip flopper yet always on the wrong side. Lol

  • @thomasechols8834
    @thomasechols8834 Месяц назад +1

    now tell me how you Really feel about George Gordon Battle Liddy!