Another reason is that owners don't want their ego bruised. The teams in the Newbie were teams that rarely made the playoff in the past 20 or so years and if they did usually never win a game in the postseason. Black n Blue were playoff semi-regulars that sometimes would win a game, but never really made the SB or a Conference Championship. Almost every team would almost demand that they be put in the Powerhouse League, which was reserved for teams that over the past two-ish decades had made playoffs consistently and consistently won in the playoffs.
@@xKingofHearts87xand you’re the reason EA thinks their clientele doesn’t want the modes they use to put in the games. They think we’re zombies who only care about cinematic cutscenes looking nice, when in reality it’s not.
Yup. And all of it was lost after the ps2 era. We’d never get stuff like this in current day. They’re too busy trying to sell people on tackle animations
For me, Sega Genesis Madden's were my nostaligia. These games(ps2 era), are the best made football games to date. That is both a compliment to the developers then, but a statement how far gaming developing has fallen.
The Madden 12 version is similar except at the end of the 3 previous leagues, you face 3 different custom teams instead of all star or hall of fame teams. The Kickers, The Monsters, and The Manipulators. Each has their own set of powers like the teams in the supreme league. They all also share the same stadium.
I just remembered I made a video with the "ghetto phone footage" about fantasy challenge like a year ago. ruclips.net/video/gXn6Foev8vg/видео.htmlsi=omNBvt_ZRkNTIzUS
To be more specific about the extra three teams' powers, for those curious: The Kickers have an insanely strong kicker (as in, full-length-of-the-field strong, meaning every drive is guaranteed to get 3 points unless you force a turnover), run a bunch of fake field goals regardless of down or distance, and get "Roughing the Kicker" penalties if you hit stick them; the Monsters can "intimidate" you into not seeing your receiver icons (à la CFB25's Stadium Pulse at its most intense); and the Manipulators will force you to pick specific plays, randomly make you audible against your will, and occasionally prevent your QB from throwing the ball at anyone besides the receiver they've double-covered.
I used that mode for my revenge arch on getting my madden skills up to play my dad. Every time I had a break from school, I stayed up til 4-5am just playing this and getting my audible game up as well as the stick skills. I had an entire ritual where I’d play the mini games first to warm up, play a quick quarter of a game with random team selected and then go into the grind. They need to bring this back and torture the new generation and teach these kids what real rage quit is.
I remember the way i beat this mode is that I put all my eggs in the basket with Steve Smith, Mike Vick, and LT. My other offensive positions sucked and I made up for it on Defense by taking what I needed from other teams.
Glad someone finally covered this. I also had to learn to use qb spy's and run the clock down against the dummies. Ironically I had a hail Mary last second bomb from favre to driver against the tridents to win
Something fun is that on the full team draft mode, you draft every position, but you don't draft a full 53 man roster, so you'll have holes and the game will compensate in... interesting ways. My Jumbo package TE3 was my kicker Adam Vinatieri. I had him catch like 4 TDs.
I remember in these games each league had a weird team that you faced for the championship that cheated. The Newbie League you played had a team called the Kickers. Every single person on the team had the position of a placekicker. Which means if you hit stick or slam them, it's an immediate 15-yard penalty, automatic 1st down due to roughing the kicker. The Black n Blue you played the Monsters who were genetic freaks that couldn't be blocked. The shenanigans started early. Powerhouse was the Manipulators, iirc, that would change the play after you've selected it and you either had to audible or run the play, they changed it too.
This is by far my favorite game mode that's been in any Madden, glad to see someone else talk about it. All madden is fr impossible lmao the dummies are INSANE
Maaan this brings back memories. One of my favorite things to do with these teams after unlocking them was watch CPU vs. CPU matches between them. Dummies vs. Tridents was a blast. Deceivers vs. Glaciers was a riot. Good times.
That was my favorite mode to play in. I had played the 09 version which had similar teams but also had a team with all kickers. And they would never punt, but kick these 90+ field goals every time.
Amazing video from start to finish. The music selection & the deep dive into the game mode was perfect I liked how you used music from UMK3 for the Deceivers part of the video. Their stadium design kinda reminds me of Shao Kahn’s Throne Room.
THe dummies showed up in the PC version as well didn't they in some capacity, just the idea of sentient training dummies is nightmare fuel, the idea of a team of defenders going invisible is hilarious when it's someone else struggling
I had the PC version, and they were just straight up unlocked in the game since this game mode wasn't in that version. I always thought the Dummies were the strongest since all the other teams' powers didn't work properly, though to be honest, I don't think I ever used the Tridents once.
I remember they had dope ass training modes in this game against the dummies! I remember doing a running back mode, where you had to stay on a path that zigged and zagged all 100 yards down the field and you had to dodge the dummies. Good times man
On the gamecube I beat all of them on All Madden, after many many attempts. The fucking Deceivers are the most difficult thing I've ever conquered in a video game. I sort of figured out a way though. On offense you have to be ultra conservative, get first downs, avoid interceptions and fumbles, settle for 3, whatever you have to do. On defense you have to keep the pressure on, blitz 5-6 guys every play and just hope they screw up. Oh you forgot to mention they also have unlimited timeouts. Never again
Thanks for sharing this, I never knew about it. The creativity they used to have omg!! Makes me even more mad at Madden now lol. The Glaciers are straight out of Mortal Kombat or Eyeshield 21 😂
Madden 08 was literally my favorite Madden. me and my younger brother wouldn’t even play full games, we would just play the practice modes over and over again.
This is how you know this game was good. I can’t tell you how many hours I put into this game as a kid and NEVER knew this game mode was even a thing. I know the dummies from the practice mini games but I have never seen this game mode at all
Some dude stole your whole video and posted to tik tok. I don’t even play Madden anymore, but had a blast watching your video. Had to come find the OG creator and reward him for his time and effort: Great fucking video. I played ‘08 on my original Xbox and PsP and had no clue this mode existed
This is yet another reason why the older madden games were better on the ps2, legendary teams, HOF players, more create a team options, the madden card cheats, franchise mode was way better to.
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those dummies were nightmare fuel, used to have me genuinely terrified
3:53 99 everything bigger faster stronger 😂
Dey never had me nervous lol
its just shane gillis
Same
They were goated
Madden would never do something like this nowadays. I miss when games were made with passion
Another reason is that owners don't want their ego bruised. The teams in the Newbie were teams that rarely made the playoff in the past 20 or so years and if they did usually never win a game in the postseason. Black n Blue were playoff semi-regulars that sometimes would win a game, but never really made the SB or a Conference Championship. Almost every team would almost demand that they be put in the Powerhouse League, which was reserved for teams that over the past two-ish decades had made playoffs consistently and consistently won in the playoffs.
@@chrissao_502 ngl I never really noticed this
@@xKingofHearts87xand you’re the reason EA thinks their clientele doesn’t want the modes they use to put in the games. They think we’re zombies who only care about cinematic cutscenes looking nice, when in reality it’s not.
@@anthonylombardo1261yeah… that’s a stretch buddy.
The nfl stops madden from doing certain stuff that they actually wanna do idky 🤷🏾♂️
The dummies used to give me nightmares. Something about 8 feet tall sentient football dummies chasing you around with no feet didn't sit right with me
Dang madden had some great innovation back then
Yup. And all of it was lost after the ps2 era. We’d never get stuff like this in current day. They’re too busy trying to sell people on tackle animations
Because less about the fun of the game and more about how Madden points someone has
Madden nostalgia hits the hardest. Back when the game was good. Take me back!
For me, Sega Genesis Madden's were my nostaligia. These games(ps2 era), are the best made football games to date. That is both a compliment to the developers then, but a statement how far gaming developing has fallen.
Thought I was the only one who remembered this lol.
Absolutely LOVED Madden 08
Totally forgot about the mode. This was a few years before NFL clamped down on EA and made them remove stuff they didn't like
The Madden 12 version is similar except at the end of the 3 previous leagues, you face 3 different custom teams instead of all star or hall of fame teams. The Kickers, The Monsters, and The Manipulators. Each has their own set of powers like the teams in the supreme league. They all also share the same stadium.
I just remembered I made a video with the "ghetto phone footage" about fantasy challenge like a year ago.
ruclips.net/video/gXn6Foev8vg/видео.htmlsi=omNBvt_ZRkNTIzUS
I love playing it was fun different
I play it on 09 and 12 madden
To be more specific about the extra three teams' powers, for those curious: The Kickers have an insanely strong kicker (as in, full-length-of-the-field strong, meaning every drive is guaranteed to get 3 points unless you force a turnover), run a bunch of fake field goals regardless of down or distance, and get "Roughing the Kicker" penalties if you hit stick them; the Monsters can "intimidate" you into not seeing your receiver icons (à la CFB25's Stadium Pulse at its most intense); and the Manipulators will force you to pick specific plays, randomly make you audible against your will, and occasionally prevent your QB from throwing the ball at anyone besides the receiver they've double-covered.
@@nicholasbuffone175 every sport game should have something like this even if its simulation golf 😂
Back when the EA developers actually cared about their games
All my years of playing PS2 Madden, I have never knew this existed 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I used that mode for my revenge arch on getting my madden skills up to play my dad. Every time I had a break from school, I stayed up til 4-5am just playing this and getting my audible game up as well as the stick skills. I had an entire ritual where I’d play the mini games first to warm up, play a quick quarter of a game with random team selected and then go into the grind. They need to bring this back and torture the new generation and teach these kids what real rage quit is.
I remember the way i beat this mode is that I put all my eggs in the basket with Steve Smith, Mike Vick, and LT. My other offensive positions sucked and I made up for it on Defense by taking what I needed from other teams.
Glad someone finally covered this. I also had to learn to use qb spy's and run the clock down against the dummies. Ironically I had a hail Mary last second bomb from favre to driver against the tridents to win
Something fun is that on the full team draft mode, you draft every position, but you don't draft a full 53 man roster, so you'll have holes and the game will compensate in... interesting ways. My Jumbo package TE3 was my kicker Adam Vinatieri. I had him catch like 4 TDs.
THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS! I’ve looked for videos on it but could never find any
Another gem of a channel, never stop making these
I remember in these games each league had a weird team that you faced for the championship that cheated. The Newbie League you played had a team called the Kickers. Every single person on the team had the position of a placekicker. Which means if you hit stick or slam them, it's an immediate 15-yard penalty, automatic 1st down due to roughing the kicker. The Black n Blue you played the Monsters who were genetic freaks that couldn't be blocked. The shenanigans started early. Powerhouse was the Manipulators, iirc, that would change the play after you've selected it and you either had to audible or run the play, they changed it too.
This is by far my favorite game mode that's been in any Madden, glad to see someone else talk about it. All madden is fr impossible lmao the dummies are INSANE
bro used sonic tekken and mortal kombat music fire selection
And mvc2 music
Maaan this brings back memories. One of my favorite things to do with these teams after unlocking them was watch CPU vs. CPU matches between them. Dummies vs. Tridents was a blast. Deceivers vs. Glaciers was a riot. Good times.
Used to play this mode all the time. Its the most rage inducing mode ive ever played and i loved it so much 😂
I completely forgot about these teams. Back when Madden was actually creative
That was like maddens version of nfl street 😂😂😂
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Kaizen has great content. You are definitely gonna blow up bro. Keep Grinding.
Just found your stuff. Respect man your whole channel is just nostalgia for me
You're right, I did forget but it's all coming back to me now. Thank you for the nostalgia.
That was my favorite mode to play in. I had played the 09 version which had similar teams but also had a team with all kickers. And they would never punt, but kick these 90+ field goals every time.
7:04 Me:ok thats cheap i see that...cant be too bad though
7:08 Me:hm...i can smell the baloney now this some bullshit 💀
Bro it just... kept fuckin goin
I still play Madden 08 on my PC from time to time, its amazing.
Amazing video from start to finish. The music selection & the deep dive into the game mode was perfect
I liked how you used music from UMK3 for the Deceivers part of the video. Their stadium design kinda reminds me of Shao Kahn’s Throne Room.
That dummy team was extremely hard 😂
you just made me dig this game out of my basement. thank you so much
I had no idea about this mode! I didn’t know EA had the creativity for this. Great video!
Man I haven’t thought about that mode in 15 years. Thanks for unlocking old nightmares.
Awesome video, glad I discovered your channel early so I can witness your comeup!
Strange point of interest, charting the popularity of a random RUclips channel, but to eaches own, I guess.
Man you unlocked a deep memory with this one , Thankyou
Aye bro, this video fr had me dying 😭. Please keep uploading vids
You think this is a tough fever dream type challenge? Try running the TBL Gauntlet on 2K24 on PS5 or PS4!
Ps2 Madden will always be the 🐐 Madden its NOT CLOSE 😂
i remember playing this as a kid, I tried to google how to beat them but literally no one was talking about it
never knew any of this existed this is fire more people should try this mode out on all madden
Yoooo… this is such a fire video!! keep it up mane
THe dummies showed up in the PC version as well didn't they in some capacity, just the idea of sentient training dummies is nightmare fuel, the idea of a team of defenders going invisible is hilarious when it's someone else struggling
I had the PC version, and they were just straight up unlocked in the game since this game mode wasn't in that version. I always thought the Dummies were the strongest since all the other teams' powers didn't work properly, though to be honest, I don't think I ever used the Tridents once.
My algorithm is calibrated when it's taking me to a Madden video with Capcom vs SNK 2 music
Loved the editing on this! Keep it up!
Woooooooooooooow I remember this from my childhood! Thank you for the reminder!
Glad you made this I randomly remembered this a few months ago and couldn’t find anything on it
I remember they had dope ass training modes in this game against the dummies! I remember doing a running back mode, where you had to stay on a path that zigged and zagged all 100 yards down the field and you had to dodge the dummies. Good times man
I haven’t played this mode in 10 yrs crazy
Definitely gonna buy this game! Didn’t know about this mode I had 03-05, 07 and 10 on ps2.
On the gamecube I beat all of them on All Madden, after many many attempts. The fucking Deceivers are the most difficult thing I've ever conquered in a video game. I sort of figured out a way though. On offense you have to be ultra conservative, get first downs, avoid interceptions and fumbles, settle for 3, whatever you have to do. On defense you have to keep the pressure on, blitz 5-6 guys every play and just hope they screw up. Oh you forgot to mention they also have unlimited timeouts. Never again
Very good video. This was my favorite Madden.
Thanks for sharing this, I never knew about it. The creativity they used to have omg!! Makes me even more mad at Madden now lol. The Glaciers are straight out of Mortal Kombat or Eyeshield 21 😂
Madden 08 was literally my favorite Madden. me and my younger brother wouldn’t even play full games, we would just play the practice modes over and over again.
i never forgot, this was the best shit ever. too bad we'll never get this greatness again with the current state of madden. nice video
Fantasy challenge in madden 09 is such a huge part of my childhood. Damn I wish I had a ps2
Thanks for doing this i never knew these teams existed
I love Fantasy Challenge
We need this type of fun back in video games
This was a great video
I played so much madden 08 and don’t think I ever played this WTF!?
6:40 i thought these were made up teams?? Why are the Patriots on here?
CVS2 AND MVC2 OST?? Yeah this guy knows his stuff!💯💯
This is why I still play the old Madden games!
I loved this mode in Madden 11.
They didn't have the Hall of Fame teams, but they had the deceiver team.
dude i didnt forget about this mode but i forgot what game had it. omg thank you
No one forgot these were the greatest madden features to never be put in the game again. 😭😭
subscribed - can't believe i didn't remember this mode!
This is how you know this game was good. I can’t tell you how many hours I put into this game as a kid and NEVER knew this game mode was even a thing. I know the dummies from the practice mini games but I have never seen this game mode at all
good times man.. loved this mode so much.
The Kiazen rebirth has been amazing
Nahhh the Tekken music go crazy tho🤣🤣😭
Fantastic video man!!
I didn’t forget, madden need to bring these back ASAP !!! AND THE OLDER TEAMS TOO ! And EVERY PRO BOWL TEAM TO COMPETE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER
The tackling dummy’s face looks like Shane Gillis in the thumbnail.
Played that game for years as a kid and somehow didn't know about this mode lmao. I'm so sad!
Someone on tiktok stole ya video i luckily have brain cells and searched it up on youtube fire video bro💯🔥
Madden 08 for the pc with mods is still one of the best football games to date
Didn't forget lol my friend and I talk about it every year
Forgot these existed!!!!
I never forgot this mode. I loved it, actually. I was sad they didn't keep it because it was actually a pretty great and unique game mode at the time.
Some dude stole your whole video and posted to tik tok. I don’t even play Madden anymore, but had a blast watching your video. Had to come find the OG creator and reward him for his time and effort:
Great fucking video. I played ‘08 on my original Xbox and PsP and had no clue this mode existed
Man put the Tekken Tag 1 Yoshimitsu stage music in the video that's how I know I'm getting fucking old 💀😭
We never forget over here!
Ngl, I miss Madden 08. I knew immediately when I saw the thumbnail. Times were different back then
i love this game mode i remember beating it on madden 10 and i am currently beating it on Madden 12
This is yet another reason why the older madden games were better on the ps2, legendary teams, HOF players, more create a team options, the madden card cheats, franchise mode was way better to.
Great content love it
i love this mode this why madden 08 is the best madden ever
Those Madden cards made it easy to defeat the Supreme league teams
I’m one of the 7.43K that subscribed.
Like the Glaciers this game mode just simply disappeared
i didnt forget i just plain didnt know this existed even though i played that madden era plenty
I miss playing NFL Street for my PlayStation 2
Playing the pats at the end is crazy
I don’t know how I came across this video but I’m sure glad I did lol
the invisible team is wild as hell
Atlantis makes the regular team look like Little Mac
lol the random Tekken music. Good choice.
I loved this game mode especially supreme League