Xanthan Gum Primer: Diving into Ratios and Synergies. WTF - Ep. 302

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @benjaminchung991
    @benjaminchung991 2 года назад +16

    I'd love a deep dive into emulsifiers and surfactants and what criteria are for choosing one emulsifier over another are. You've done a lot of great emulsifier content before, but mostly in the context of a single emulsifier rather than a survey of the whole range.

  • @brettrailey5584
    @brettrailey5584 2 года назад +6

    This was a great, comprehensive video. I found this site while looking for a way to thicken liquids (milk, cream, etc.) into gravies without the "snotty" texture.
    I know you try to keep the videos under 30 min but a comprehensive series similar to this video (or one long deep dive) into thickeners with notes would be worth paying for. Thanks for what you do!

  • @flavrt
    @flavrt 2 года назад +2

    Well, this is exactly the content I was looking for - special effects with pairs of emulsifiers/stabilizers. Congratulations to me for a solid learning experience. I'm a timid 0.3% xanthan type, so the presentation of progressing concentrations rang the bell. TY

  • @lindalester7055
    @lindalester7055 2 года назад +1

    Omg I’m so happy to see this, in our low carb way of living thickeners are so tricky and frustrating. Xanthan is one of the few we can get in this little town so it was incredible to finally see the science of effective use.

  • @judysbakeryandtestkitchen1654
    @judysbakeryandtestkitchen1654 2 года назад +6

    I’d like to see the difference of protein powders in low carb baking. Egg white, whey, collegan…. When you use what.
    I’d like to know more about when to use guar gum and when to use xanathan. Also agar. Maybe add that episode on next
    My first time watching. This is so valuable!!!

  • @louisebachand4126
    @louisebachand4126 2 года назад +1

    I love your daring and inventive minds. Great ideas!

  • @tmcaleer50
    @tmcaleer50 2 года назад +1

    Loved this presentation, so many alternative ingredients we have opportunity try and experience. Thank you for sharing your experimentation and wonderful ingredients with us.

  • @MarkSamuelson32
    @MarkSamuelson32 2 года назад +1

    God this demo you did of the synergies helped me sooo much in guiding me towards what I need to R&D further on a difficult food project I have. Thank you for your channel and doing more than superficial few minute videos which RUclips is saturated with (makes it hard to dive deep for information on YT with anything food related especially.)

  • @mstyblu379
    @mstyblu379 2 года назад +1

    I just discovered Xanthan Gum a few months ago when I was looking for a good thickener for gravies. I love it!

  • @MichaelREFLECTS
    @MichaelREFLECTS 2 года назад +1

    Yess!! So happy you all do these videos. Love it.

  • @r4ultra
    @r4ultra 2 года назад +1

    Woohoo! I’ve been waiting for this!

  • @RPoyns
    @RPoyns 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you, very informative

  • @eyoung6943
    @eyoung6943 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for this video! I’m constantly having to re-research and guess every time I want to thicken or use a gel. I loved the section on mixing with other ingredients, as that’s what I often end up doing.
    I would love to see a series on these focusing on considerations for thickening and gelling water based vs. fat based vs. alcohol based liquids. Do some ingredients work better in high fat content like oil? How do these ingredients react with acids like lemon juice or vinegar?

  • @TUG657
    @TUG657 2 года назад +2

    Great video!
    Would love to see you cover plant based ground beef. To see how to perfect it and how to avoid making mistakes.

    • @julietittler9171
      @julietittler9171 2 года назад

      They have a many deep dives into making various plant based meats: beef, chx, fish, bacon, steak. The taste great. Check them out

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад

      Have you seen this episode? We are due for an update...
      blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-diy-plant-based-burgers-and-more/

    • @TUG657
      @TUG657 2 года назад

      @@julietittler9171
      I did already. They are truly great!
      I’d just love to see more, especially more of the ground beef they are planning on updating.

    • @TUG657
      @TUG657 2 года назад

      @@Modernist_Pantry
      I did. Waiting excitedly!

  • @nijinokanata111
    @nijinokanata111 2 года назад

    The science behind it is awesome

  • @Bgirlsweetness1111
    @Bgirlsweetness1111 2 года назад +1

    Love this episode!!! I am all about the hydrocolloids. I would like to see a series of videos on fibers and how we can use them to make healthier meal choices. Oat fiber, konjac fiber, psyllium, inulin, apple fiber, resistant starch, and so on.

  • @janelmore6677
    @janelmore6677 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much! I really like the topic of gelatines & thickeners! Vegan gelatin update would be fun!

  • @heidiw637
    @heidiw637 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your videos! I would love to see a video about Keto tortilla chips... something I haven't been able to perfect in my own experiments.

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад +1

      Stay tuned! We have a very exciting recipe coming...

  • @michaeljensen7896
    @michaeljensen7896 2 года назад +1

    Great episode again! 🎉 I think multiple episodes on sweeteners/sugars would be great. I have family members that are diabetic or keto or vegan and trying to find the best sweetener is always a challenge; how does a sweetener effect insulin? Just a thought…. Keep up the great videos and love your camera and editing team ❤️

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад

      Have you seen this episode? blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-sugar-substitutes/

  • @julietittler9171
    @julietittler9171 2 года назад +1

    I would love to see a series on keto sauces and glazes. There’s so many different way to thicken gravy‘s, sauces, and glazes. Egg yolks, all the various hydrocolloids etc. It can be confusing and overwhelming to the home cook.

  • @jangardner1446
    @jangardner1446 2 года назад

    Excellent episode! I use Xanthan gum a lot, but never knew the ratio, so this was very helpful. You talked about using various gums/thickeners together which was also very instructive. Is there a reason you used carrageenan vs one of the gum combos for developing your gummies? Also, Is there a chart available which lists the various gums with their uses, preparation (hot/cold/either), base ratios (eg. 1%) , and best used for? Maybe even potential issues to be aware of when using? I understand that usages vary, but this would be helpful for those of us dipping our toes into this.
    It would be great to have a multi-part, deeper dive into gums/thickeners.
    Thanks!

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад

      The Vegan Gelatin is a proprietary pre-blended formula. Certain types of carrageenan has an elasticity in its gel that most other gelling agents don't that is key to making that gelatin-like mouthfeel.
      Here is our guide to gums: blog.modernistpantry.com/advice/a-guide-to-gums/

  • @marksamuelsoncable
    @marksamuelsoncable 2 года назад

    Hi,
    I'd deeply appreciate your reply.
    Can you please describe specifically how you made the last synergy example @16:31 of locust bean gum, xanthan, and agar?
    I realize consistency will vary widely depending on ingredients, and ratios, but I want to successfully replicate that cube texturally exactly as you have it as a starting point.
    Thank you!

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад

      This was 100g water, 0.75g agar 0.25g xanthan 0.25g LBG. Keep in mind in this is just water with food coloring.

    • @marksamuelsoncable
      @marksamuelsoncable 2 года назад

      @@Modernist_Pantry Thank you so much!!! (and to others: you have to heat this mixture up to get it activated.. I first tried to do it just cold to no success.)

  • @gjaeigjiajeg
    @gjaeigjiajeg Год назад

    Amazing resource right here. Thank you so much for the experiments.
    Does there exist a gelling agent, that sets even at hot temperatures, and stays set when reheated or warmed? Ideally with comparable consistency as the Xanthan and agar sample you just showed?

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  Год назад +1

      Probably a blend of gums - check out our guide to gums: blog.modernistpantry.com/advice/reference-sheets/a-guide-to-gums/

    • @gjaeigjiajeg
      @gjaeigjiajeg Год назад

      @@Modernist_Pantry handy!!

  • @maggietopkis4001
    @maggietopkis4001 2 года назад

    I always love your videos. I would love to see a "long read" on allulose. It's a game-changer in the keto/diabetic world, because it actually tastes like sugar. But I would love to know, among other things, how to make a "brown sugar" version and also whether it's possible to make something crisp -- a cookie, for example -- using allulose, rather than erythritol, which I think tastes disgusting.

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад

      We do have a basic primer on allulose:
      blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-allulose/

  • @gokhanelma
    @gokhanelma Год назад +1

    Thanx guys for video

  • @terrypatoir582
    @terrypatoir582 2 года назад +1

    I would like to see how xanthan can be used to better keto dishes. Thanks

  • @carrolllee6875
    @carrolllee6875 2 года назад +3

    You need to deep dive Koji. There was a lot of good education provided in your earlier videos with a lot of suggestions but you never showed the short ribs, or potatos. you can pickle vegitables in shio koji. show it.

  • @grimreeper70
    @grimreeper70 10 месяцев назад

    So for my hotsauces i make and sell im having a problem with my sauces separating and not looking good. What amount would I start with just to hold it all together.

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  10 месяцев назад

      Check out our episode all about hot sauces: ruclips.net/video/bA6pg4V5bfA/видео.html

  • @marjoriejohnson6535
    @marjoriejohnson6535 Год назад

    More info please..ie does it change flavor. ?? I can taste and identify if something has agar in it...

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  Год назад

      If you taste or truly get a 'slimy' feeling from xanthan you've used way too much.

  • @edgardriba7513
    @edgardriba7513 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this video, it was excellent! I am subscribing to this channel.
    I want to substitute gum Arabic (acacia) on my sugar syrups. What would you recommend as a substitute gum/gums?

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  Год назад

      You can try a variety of other gums, but none of them would have the same texture. You can experiment with xanthan as it's the most accessible.

  • @dannyzwolf4546
    @dannyzwolf4546 6 месяцев назад +1

    I add 1/4 tps to blended drinks.

  • @tulipchu4852
    @tulipchu4852 2 года назад +1

    how do they perform during hot application?

  • @bmp713
    @bmp713 Месяц назад

    Which thickener when mixed with hot water and protein powder would set at room temperature to a chewy protein bar consistency?

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  Месяц назад

      Probably none since powder and water alone won't make a protein bar. If you want to make a protein bar in general we like Ultra-Stik:
      modernistpantry.com/products/ultra-stik.html

  • @rafequetbava
    @rafequetbava 2 года назад

    I was looking forward to get the ratio of xanthan gum to thicken 1 ltr. Of sugar syrup to medium consistancy.my sugar syrup is already 1:1 ratio with water plus sugar. I wish to further thicken this solution.Please advise.regards,and should I use a mixer or blender?

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад

      We can't exactly provide ratios for everything, but you can start at 0.1% and increase by 0.1% ratio until you get your desired consistency. If you're not using our Perfected Xanthan you'll need a high shear blender.

  • @lauralarue1923
    @lauralarue1923 Год назад

    I have been experimenting using this to solidify liquid to add to my Italian buttercream frosting, but my question is, does the xanthan gum make a liquid more heat stable when it solidifies?

  • @mikej9062
    @mikej9062 2 года назад +2

    This one will be a hit. Everyone buys this stuff once and then realizes that it's so potent that the amount they bought is like a 3 year supply for a modernist chef.

  • @JoeHusosky
    @JoeHusosky 2 года назад +9

    Would love to see multiple episodes on keto pastry crusts

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад

      Did you see the pie episode? blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-keto-pie-crust/

  • @Russellkhan
    @Russellkhan 3 месяца назад

    In preventing clumping, you mention a few methods like adding the xanthan gum to a dry ingredient like sugar, but you don't mention adding it to the oil rather than the water. I've noticed that it dissolves easily in fats. Is there a reason not to use it this way?

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  3 месяца назад

      It would depend on what you're doing. If your emulsion is oil in water yes that would work.

  • @Whoismatthewhooper
    @Whoismatthewhooper 7 месяцев назад

    What was the ratio of xanthan and guar and what ratio would create the solid state gel?

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  7 месяцев назад

      That's all R&D and testing to find out what works for you

  • @MsLansones
    @MsLansones 2 года назад +1

    I use Xanthan for my Brazilian cheese bread.

  • @miracletimberlake9202
    @miracletimberlake9202 Год назад +1

    how much xanthan gum and locust bean gum to suck-up the water in my flexible but firm agar agar dessert?

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  Год назад

      That will depend on your recipe, there's no easy answer for that.

  • @shanemelott3131
    @shanemelott3131 2 года назад

    What would be the best emulsifier to hold a pesto together?

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад

      Try soy lecithin powder: modernistpantry.com/products/soy-lecithin-powder.html

    • @shanemelott3131
      @shanemelott3131 2 года назад

      @@Modernist_Pantry could sunflower lecithin powder work as well?

  • @henryallen8264
    @henryallen8264 Год назад

    I made some blueberry syrup but it was very watery. Can xanthan gum be used to thicken that finished product?

  • @AbeC116
    @AbeC116 11 месяцев назад

    When you say by weight, do you multiply it or divide it?

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  11 месяцев назад

      If you're talking ratios you multiply. For example 0.1% of 1000g is 1000 x 0.001 = 1gram of xanthan

    • @AbeC116
      @AbeC116 11 месяцев назад

      Alright then. Would it be the same for ounces ?

  • @BS-wh4lh
    @BS-wh4lh 2 года назад +1

    Multiple episodes on dairy free alternatives for baking please.

  • @komoru
    @komoru Год назад +2

    The chef sold me on this. Never trust a thin chef.

  • @CaptMarkSVAlcina
    @CaptMarkSVAlcina 2 года назад

    I thought you have to boil xanthan gum for one minute in what ever you are cooking with, so is that right or wrong as I see you do it without cooking.

  • @michaelpepper885
    @michaelpepper885 8 месяцев назад

    Well anything up above .5% is more likely used in cosmetic products or polishing compounds

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  8 месяцев назад

      I don't disagree, less it more when it comes to xanthan.

  • @StarPekyi
    @StarPekyi Год назад

    How do l get xanthan gum? I'm in Ghana

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  Год назад

      We ship globally: modernistpantry.com/pages/international-shipping.html

  • @jacquelinedemarco5246
    @jacquelinedemarco5246 2 года назад

    The majority of xanthan gum in the market is derived from corn...what about yours? thanks as always!

    • @Modernist_Pantry
      @Modernist_Pantry  2 года назад +1

      Xanthan is not actually derived from corn. It is harvested from a microbe that is grown on various mediums, and corn is one of them. That does not mean that xanthan contains corn.

  • @sharonknorr1106
    @sharonknorr1106 2 года назад +1

    Would like to see multiple episodes on vegan cheeses.