WW2 Makeshift Sten Foregrips
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2021
- Let's take a look at some intriguing wartime makeshift/homemade vertical front grips for Stens. Examples found so far include grips used by Commandos while training in Egypt, as well as similar front grips seen in Libya and Burma.
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Thanks for watching, found this really interesting to work on and wonder if there are any other photos of other examples. If you enjoyed the video, please consider supporting our work here - www.patreon.com/thearmourersbench
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Watches video then shuffles off to the shed to start tinkering with my stens 😂
Nothing like a good accessory haha
I suspect those (looking at them) started life as an off the shelf 2" -3" wall mount for piping screwed into a block of wood or welded to a 1" steel rod. Mass producing them, even with the minimal amount of carpentry and welding required.
Could be some bored armorer onboard a navy vessel making them, like how the US navy made a batch of the .30 cal Stinger?(could be the wrong name)
You called it correctly.
This is the kind of fascinating and niche material I love from you guys. I guess I'll have to make some grips!
Very glad you enjoyed it John, thanks for letting me know. Send us a photo of your handiwork haha.
Interesting how these improvised 'down grips' appeared throughout history, before they were issued as a standard item on the L85A2 in Afghanistan. I was Armourer to a unit in N.Ireland and I was adding down grips onto our HK53s for operators who wanted them. The rear grip from the LSW made a handy down grip on the HK53 with a bit of engineering and some araldite.
That's really interesting Mike. Did you get get photos? That would make a great video/article.
Have also seen SA80s during the Gulf War with ah hoc grips too.
@@TheArmourersBench Do you have any links to photos of that? I'm intensly curious now!
Yes, working on an article at the moment. Keep an eye on www.historicalfirearms.info
@@TheArmourersBench Sure thing, thanks!
@@TheArmourersBench I'm afraid not; this was mid 90s Northern Ireland and we had to be discreet due to the nature of the unit. I made the forward down grip to the requirements of my 'customer'. Some liked a vertical grip, others an angled pistol grip.
It was a time before picatinny rails so we were adding sections of weaver rail to fix on lights, etc.
I use an old scythe handle on mine.
Very interesting. I wonder why no front grip design was ever standardized on earlier models, since support hand positioning has always been questionable. From what I understand, the MKV front grip was dropped pretty quickly due to being able to loosen the barrel mounting collar- is this correct?
That's something I want to research, see if it was something that was thought off by the Armament Design Department. Yes, I believe it was torque on the barrel nut that led to their removal later! Thanks for watching!
very cool as you know i love the sten
Well found mr tAB
hi i have never seen a a fore grip on a mk3 sten, i believe there are 3 reasons apart from the short life of the mk 3, it is a lot more complicated to make the "fixing band" to go around the body as the mk3 has a top rib and the second is the mk 3 has a "finger guard" in front of the ejection port to stop your fingers sliding down the body of the gun whilst firing, this can also be used to pull the gun back into the shoulder 3rd the mag well is fixed so it an be griped with out the risk of increasing miss feeds from the magazine
Now, that's what I like; field mods of gear/weapons in the field. Great one guys!
Thanks Matej, glad you enjoyed it!
I've seen mk5 grips fitted to mk2 but these are dope.
Fav gun of all time is the Sten.
Huh. Just when you think you’ve seen it all. Excellent work as always!
Thanks Marlon, glad you found it interesting!
Good follow up on a first video! Interesting to see, how (most likely) something created in the field got up and (possibily) then spread around from top to bottom.
I wish I knew more, definitely something to keep in mind for future research. Glad you found it interesting, thanks for watching!
I was really wondering about this.
Another cracking vid mate! There is defiantly a market for these DIY grips
Thank you mate, I wish I had a Sten to put one one haha
@@TheArmourersBench that’s the dream
Fascinating
Thanks for watching!
Could be an enthusiastic armour who put the extra effort in. With the odd knives and these foregrips it seems the make do and mend attitude was very much in vogue in that era.
Definitely seems like it, looks like he was doing very good work! Thanks for watching.
those photos of soldiers holding the sten, tucked under the armpit by the foregrip make the crazyness of the viper mk1's design suddenly seem a lot more self explanatory
Haha yes, a good point!
I think it's probably all from a tool/workshop on one of HMS something or another. It's a pretty good answer to where to hold a sten.
I think so, someone with the tools and know-how.
Does dutch coldwar use of the sten with aluminum front grip count as well
2:04 what type of jacket is this?
Was that Clement Attlee in the suit firing one at the start ?…
It was indeed
Where's Vic!? Haven't had one of his armourer videos in ages!
I know, he'll be back, Covid has prevented us from getting into collections we'd planned to visit so he hasn't had the material to make videos. Hopefully once the travel restrictions ease we'll be able to get to some of the European collections we'd planned to film at back in 2019.
Your video prompts me to ask if we have any evidence of the japanese using captured british equipment after their surrenders in SE asia.
Great question. I've never seen any reference to or pictures of it which is odd considering it was relatively common for Japanese troops to use captured weapons. Something to do some digging on I think!
@@TheArmourersBench the japanese in SE asia also surrendered to the british in 45' where they were quickly rearmed and used to help fight against the viet mehn in operation Masterdom. So not sure if that will make things even harder to source from that region because they were likely using british weapons in that 45-46' time.
Wise move I see there! Some of 'em have the STEN subgun AND a pistol. The STEN was not the most reliable gun in WW2... so I'd pack a hogleg just in case the STEN jams!!
Adding a front grip would duplicate the handling of the Thompson the Sten was designed to replace.
Exactly, perhaps some of the men had been issued the Thompson and then had it replaced with a Sten and missed that ergonomic feature of the M1928A1. Thanks for watching.