HI Dave, I got this stove last week and I'm highly delighted with it. When it gasifies it gives out a insane amount of heat within five minutes, and sufficient to heat my 10X36 foot static even in the recent cold spell. Good video but one thing I tend to disagree on is inserting a DIY baffle.. Inserting a baffle may well interfere with the gasifier outlets causing the smoke that the extra cost of the eco feature is meant to prevent. I notice the flue does get very hot but a lot of the pipe is inside the room radiating heat into the living space so isn't really totally wasted. A baffle may also cause extra smoke in a cool flue and that in turn causing the dreaded creosote build up. That was the big problem with my Outbacker oven range with its flue outlet offset from the firebox. The Eco burner self cleans its flue with heat and after several great burns the pipes are still clean as a whistle and no boring regular maintenance.. I had to to take extra heat protection measures because of the hotter flue and I miss a oven feature but I purchased a cast iron Dutch Oven which was cheap and cooks does very well and fits next to my kettle.
I’m glad you like your new stove! The baffle worked fine for me, I didn’t have it across the full width of the stove. I now have another stove which I like better for the flames and the baffling but obviously it’s not much use for cooking on.
Ho ho, I’m glad a came across your review. When I bought this stove a few weeks ago I wanted to make sure it was as airtight as possible, as I’ve installed it into my shed. In my zeal to seal up any gaps I inadvertently sealed around the door effectively blocking and air coming out of the top of the door, ie the “air-wash” system! So, for the last few weeks I’ve been cleaning the door glass after every burn as it was totally getting “blacked” out! Makeshift rope seal now removed 😉 …. sorted, glass now crystal clear, thanks! I’ve also created a baffle from some stainless steel plate I had lying around. Wow, the heat its now kicking out …... is fantastic, happy days, cheers.
What also will make a lot of difference to the glass, will be using dry wood and also leaving the door open until you have the wood properly burning. Once everything is running hot, you should be able to run the bottom vent closed and just use the airwash and the secondary burn. That’s how I do it with the stove in the front room.
@@daveys Thanks Dave. Yeah for the baffle plate I wanted something I could remove from the stove if it didn't work so I made it from a stainless steel plate I had lying around and an angle bracket. The piece of angle bracket is about 10cm long and is attached to the back of the plate with two M5 bolts. This is then attached to the back of the stove with a single M5 bolt. If it didn't perform well, I could simply remove, and plug the hole. It measures approximately 19cm by 22.5cm, about the largest I could fit diagonally through the door ;-) It's also slightly curved from left to right (when looking from the front of the stove), just what I had available at the time. I've slanted it from back to front .... about 2 inches down from the top at the back and about 1.5 inches down from the top at the front edge. As my flue doesn't go straight up through the roof of the shed as its angled at 45 degrees after the first section of pipe and then 3 sections at 45, the natural "draw" isn't as good as it could be. Consequently, on first lighting the stove a lot more smoke came out the front of the stove .... as I used to leave it slightly open until a good initial burn could be established. Not any more ......... my lighting method has now radically changed! I now use the "top down" lighting method. I place the "large" sections of logs (about 2 inches by 6 inches) on the bottom of the stove and then 2 flat cotton pads partially doused in cooking oil spaced apart on top. I then "sprinkle" the kindling wood (pencil size) on top of that and then apply a few healthy squirts of isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol again I had lying around) on top of the kindling. Wait for about 30 seconds so that the flammable liquid has soaked into the wood and then throw in a lighted match .....and then immediately close the door! No smoke and instant fire, a joy to behold :-) This will then burn for about 30 to 45 mins before I have to open the door again. Yesterday, shed temperature rose from 10 degrees C to 20 degrees in about 30 mins....lovely ;-) Having my first ever stove has been fun and a learning experience, but worth it ....... even just for the smug satisfaction that you have free heat (logs eco sourced from local park) as energy prices continue to soar! Just wished I had installed it last December in the depths of winter ;-)
@@daveys Thank you for these videos! Did you get your baffle made in the end? How thick does the baffle need to be, I've got some 1.5mm mild steel (raw) sheet, would this be ok, or too thin? Thinking of having two plates. One flat to act as an internal rear panel and one internal roof panel with a 35deg bend. Bolting both plates together once inside (one M5). The same bolt going through the rear of the box and a nut on the outside. Also the nut on the inside holding the panels together will act as a spacer to the rear wall. So the flow is something like this: fireplaceuniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/how-wood-burning-stove-works.jpg Does this sound like it might be ok? Perhaps after 4 months use the internal nut would be corroded and impossible to undo to separate the back plate from the top and make removal / cleaning / replacement more tricky.
I find these little stoves work good for 2 days then smoke you out careful that little smoke stack is under rated. You will have to clean it pretty much every day or so. Maybe increase the stack size by 1" so you don't have to do this every day but once in a while?? Any build up of creosote and they will smoke you out i know because i woke up to a room full of smoke they cannot handle very much build up so be careful. I assume this for all these little stoves will be the same so next time i use my little stove i will have a coupling that at the start of the smoke stack it will be increased by 1" see how that goes hopefully I will feel safer and wake up in the morning 🙂
Hi Dave, loving the thorough review. I've ordered one of these myself. I'm curious about the baffle you installed. did the baffle work well? could you share a picture of the baffle installed?
Hi Michael - thanks for the question! I decided to run it for a few camping trips before putting a baffle in. After a few uses, I can report that it does need one. When using the stove, the stove pipe ends up really hot (in the dark you can see it glowing) and I suspect that means most of the heat is actually wasted up the chimney. I was planning to build a baffle and test it yesterday but that’d have meant using the plasma cutter outside and the weather was pretty awful where we live.
@@daveys Thank you, Dave! (~10"x10"x14") I'm considering paying the hefty shipping cost to get one flown across the pond. Seems that Great Britan has the best wood stoves!
@@SaintTrinianz - I think it’s a bit small, but it depends on the space that you’re trying to heat. I’ve said to my camping buddies that I’d probably make one that was more like the size that you’d use in your lounge.
I think you can buy direct from outbackerstoves.co.uk/ but I recall buying mine from Amazon. At the time, I also think a company called belltentboutique were selling them.
It seems pretty robust but it’s quite small. You might want to consider something a little bigger for a cabin space depending on how big your place is.
I’m not a seller of these, I just bought it online, so I would advise searching for a local seller. If I was buying again, I’d consider the POMOLY Dweller Max, as it’s probably more similar to the one I have in my lounge!
I agree. This is tiny but it still kicks out a decent amount of heat. I now use a Pomoly Dweller Max instead. It’s not as good for cooking things on, but it’s got a nicer ambiance in the tent.
@@daveys That's amazing! I've really fallen in love with wood burning stoves for long and that spark (passion) just reignited lately due to increasing high energy costs.
@@ludacrees - Tent stoves are quite different to domestic stoves but some of the tent stoves are starting to get features which keep the heat in the firebox and not out the stovepipe. The outbacker doesn’t have a baffle, but one can be fitted relatively easily. Modern domestic stoves have fancy air management fitted in most cases now to make them higher efficiency. More heat less wood!
@@daveys Indeed, you're spot on. I've been researching about modern wood stoves as well as fire place(s). Only issue with modern improved stoves is the heavy price tag.
@@ludacrees - They’re expensive initially, but there’s not very much ongoing cost. Sweeping the chimney is needed once in a while but that’s about it. I have a 5kW Arada unit and it kicks out a load of heat.
It’s eco because of the secondary burn feature, and because wood is a renewable energy source. I only burn dry, local wood so it’s as eco as it can probably be. Better than burning gas.
@@MichaelMiller-op8fe - Agreed! Wood is a renewable, oil isn’t. I only burn locally grown dry wood, so that’s about as ecological as one can get without sleeping under a solar panel.
HI Dave,
I got this stove last week and I'm highly delighted with it. When it gasifies it gives out a insane amount of heat within five minutes, and sufficient to heat my 10X36 foot static even in the recent cold spell.
Good video but one thing I tend to disagree on is inserting a DIY baffle.. Inserting a baffle may well interfere with the gasifier outlets causing the smoke that the extra cost of the eco feature is meant to prevent.
I notice the flue does get very hot but a lot of the pipe is inside the room radiating heat into the living space so isn't really totally wasted.
A baffle may also cause extra smoke in a cool flue and that in turn causing the dreaded creosote build up.
That was the big problem with my Outbacker oven range with its flue outlet offset from the firebox.
The Eco burner self cleans its flue with heat and after several great burns the pipes are still clean as a whistle and no boring regular maintenance..
I had to to take extra heat protection measures because of the hotter flue and I miss a oven feature but I purchased a cast iron Dutch Oven which was cheap and cooks does very well and fits next to my kettle.
I’m glad you like your new stove! The baffle worked fine for me, I didn’t have it across the full width of the stove. I now have another stove which I like better for the flames and the baffling but obviously it’s not much use for cooking on.
Ho ho, I’m glad a came across your review.
When I bought this stove a few weeks ago I wanted to make sure it was as airtight as possible, as I’ve installed it into my shed. In my zeal to seal up any gaps I inadvertently sealed around the door effectively blocking and air coming out of the top of the door, ie the “air-wash” system! So, for the last few weeks I’ve been cleaning the door glass after every burn as it was totally getting “blacked” out! Makeshift rope seal now removed 😉 …. sorted, glass now crystal clear, thanks!
I’ve also created a baffle from some stainless steel plate I had lying around. Wow, the heat its now kicking out …... is fantastic, happy days, cheers.
Glad you found it useful Mike!
I’d be interested to see what you did with the baffle/throat, as I’m planning the same.
What also will make a lot of difference to the glass, will be using dry wood and also leaving the door open until you have the wood properly burning. Once everything is running hot, you should be able to run the bottom vent closed and just use the airwash and the secondary burn. That’s how I do it with the stove in the front room.
@@daveys Thanks Dave. Yeah for the baffle plate I wanted something I could remove from the
stove if it didn't work so I made it from a stainless steel plate I had lying
around and an angle bracket. The piece of angle bracket is about 10cm long and is
attached to the back of the plate with two M5 bolts. This is then attached to the
back of the stove with a single M5 bolt. If it didn't perform well, I could
simply remove, and plug the hole. It measures approximately 19cm by 22.5cm, about
the largest I could fit diagonally through the door ;-)
It's also slightly curved from left to right (when looking from the front of the
stove), just what I had available at the time. I've slanted it from back to front
.... about 2 inches down from the top at the back and about 1.5 inches down from
the top at the front edge. As my flue doesn't go straight up through the roof of
the shed as its angled at 45 degrees after the first section of pipe and then 3
sections at 45, the natural "draw" isn't as good as it could be. Consequently, on
first lighting the stove a lot more smoke came out the front of the stove .... as
I used to leave it slightly open until a good initial burn could be established.
Not any more ......... my lighting method has now radically changed!
I now use the "top down" lighting method. I place the "large" sections of logs
(about 2 inches by 6 inches) on the bottom of the stove and then 2 flat cotton
pads partially doused in cooking oil spaced apart on top. I then "sprinkle" the
kindling wood (pencil size) on top of that and then apply a few healthy squirts
of isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol again I had lying around) on top of the
kindling. Wait for about 30 seconds so that the flammable liquid has soaked into
the wood and then throw in a lighted match .....and then immediately close the
door! No smoke and instant fire, a joy to behold :-)
This will then burn for about 30 to 45 mins before I have to open the door again.
Yesterday, shed temperature rose from 10 degrees C to 20 degrees in about 30
mins....lovely ;-)
Having my first ever stove has been fun and a learning experience, but worth it
....... even just for the smug satisfaction that you have free heat (logs eco
sourced from local park) as energy prices continue to soar!
Just wished I had installed it last December in the depths of winter ;-)
@@mikeandroid8127 - Thanks for the info Mike, I’ll give that a try on mine!! I have the steel plate but not fitted it yet.
@@daveys Thank you for these videos! Did you get your baffle made in the end?
How thick does the baffle need to be, I've got some 1.5mm mild steel (raw) sheet, would this be ok, or too thin?
Thinking of having two plates. One flat to act as an internal rear panel and one internal roof panel with a 35deg bend. Bolting both plates together once inside (one M5). The same bolt going through the rear of the box and a nut on the outside.
Also the nut on the inside holding the panels together will act as a spacer to the rear wall. So the flow is something like this:
fireplaceuniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/how-wood-burning-stove-works.jpg
Does this sound like it might be ok?
Perhaps after 4 months use the internal nut would be corroded and impossible to undo to separate the back plate from the top and make removal / cleaning / replacement more tricky.
I find these little stoves work good for 2 days then smoke you out careful that little smoke stack is under rated. You will have to clean it pretty much every day or so. Maybe increase the stack size by 1" so you don't have to do this every day but once in a while?? Any build up of creosote and they will smoke you out i know because i woke up to a room full of smoke they cannot handle very much build up so be careful. I assume this for all these little stoves will be the same so next time i use my little stove i will have a coupling that at the start of the smoke stack it will be increased by 1" see how that goes hopefully I will feel safer and wake up in the morning 🙂
Make sure you have a CO detector anytime you have flames. Dry wood seems OK with mine. Same as any stove really, damp/wet wood = creosote
Good video
There she is.thats the beauty I need ta git me.
Hi Dave, loving the thorough review. I've ordered one of these myself. I'm curious about the baffle you installed. did the baffle work well? could you share a picture of the baffle installed?
Hi Michael - thanks for the question! I decided to run it for a few camping trips before putting a baffle in. After a few uses, I can report that it does need one. When using the stove, the stove pipe ends up really hot (in the dark you can see it glowing) and I suspect that means most of the heat is actually wasted up the chimney. I was planning to build a baffle and test it yesterday but that’d have meant using the plasma cutter outside and the weather was pretty awful where we live.
keep me posted how that goes 👍
@@michaelforrest732 - Here you are:
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@@michaelforrest732 - a longer video, with comment:
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Thanks for your video.
You’re very welcome!
With energy price is rocketing, maybe that's the way to save money. Can you put cardboard in it instead of wood?
Cardboard produces a lot of ash for the amount of heat. Wood is much better, but I’d say “burn what you can get” rather than freeze!
@@daveys Won't use it for heating just cooking😂. Will lots of smoke come out then neighbours may complain about it?
@@LeHa-ct9ds - I don’t expect so. Maybe just don’t put too much cardboard in at one time.
Thanks for sharing video
My pleasure
Hi! Looking for this model online. Can't find it. Can you please provide a link where you got yours ? Thank you !!!
I think I bought mine via Amazon, but the company do sell them directly. If you Google “Outbacker Stoves” the site comes straight up.
Ahhhh sold out....
What are the stoves dimensions? The website doesn't include this information
It’s approx 25cm x 25cm x 36cm. Good output for the size though.
@@daveys Thank you, Dave! (~10"x10"x14") I'm considering paying the hefty shipping cost to get one flown across the pond. Seems that Great Britan has the best wood stoves!
@@SaintTrinianz - I think it’s a bit small, but it depends on the space that you’re trying to heat. I’ve said to my camping buddies that I’d probably make one that was more like the size that you’d use in your lounge.
where can you buy it, please link
I think you can buy direct from outbackerstoves.co.uk/ but I recall buying mine from Amazon. At the time, I also think a company called belltentboutique were selling them.
@@daveys thx
How can I order it to Vietnam?
No idea, sorry. I don’t sell these, I was just showing the item.
@@daveys thanks
Is it heavy?
17kg, but doesn’t feel that heavy.
Hi, is it robust, I want one for my art cabin?
It seems pretty robust but it’s quite small. You might want to consider something a little bigger for a cabin space depending on how big your place is.
Outbacker do a stove called the Hygge which is bigger but I think is still relatively small and portable.
Cabin? absolutely not buy a real stove with real chimney Please 🙂
@@daveys Thank you, I will look into them!
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I’m not a seller of these, I just bought it online, so I would advise searching for a local seller. If I was buying again, I’d consider the POMOLY Dweller Max, as it’s probably more similar to the one I have in my lounge!
Too tiny but cute
I agree. This is tiny but it still kicks out a decent amount of heat. I now use a Pomoly Dweller Max instead. It’s not as good for cooking things on, but it’s got a nicer ambiance in the tent.
@@daveys That's amazing! I've really fallen in love with wood burning stoves for long and that spark (passion) just reignited lately due to increasing high energy costs.
@@ludacrees - Tent stoves are quite different to domestic stoves but some of the tent stoves are starting to get features which keep the heat in the firebox and not out the stovepipe. The outbacker doesn’t have a baffle, but one can be fitted relatively easily. Modern domestic stoves have fancy air management fitted in most cases now to make them higher efficiency. More heat less wood!
@@daveys Indeed, you're spot on. I've been researching about modern wood stoves as well as fire place(s). Only issue with modern improved stoves is the heavy price tag.
@@ludacrees - They’re expensive initially, but there’s not very much ongoing cost. Sweeping the chimney is needed once in a while but that’s about it. I have a 5kW Arada unit and it kicks out a load of heat.
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Apologies for not replying sooner. It was about £230 in the UK, delivered.
Eco friendly you've just said you've burnt loads of wood!!!!
It’s eco because of the secondary burn feature, and because wood is a renewable energy source. I only burn dry, local wood so it’s as eco as it can probably be. Better than burning gas.
@@daveys still creates green house gases!!! Haven't you heard log burners are the new pollutants
Much better than burning condensed wood, or what you call oil.
@@MichaelMiller-op8fe wood is wood and burning it effects the environment 😜
@@MichaelMiller-op8fe - Agreed! Wood is a renewable, oil isn’t. I only burn locally grown dry wood, so that’s about as ecological as one can get without sleeping under a solar panel.