He’s not saying that would be worse off. He’s saying for Ben to get saved. That would uproot everything in his life his family most of all. His entire family would not understand and it might cause huge division in them. It doesn’t mean Ben shouldn’t come to Christ, it just means that would be a big thing for him to do and we should all pray that he does some day. It’s different when you grow up like Ben has. Their faith and respect for God is very real, but they still do not believe in any way that Jesus is Messiah. So in order for someone to do that, they would have to deny their own religion to follow Christ. Their family and community might condemn them for that. So it would be hard for Ben to go against his entire family’s faith if he said he was saved and was not going to deny Jesus Christ as savior any longer.
Did you watch the video? It's not about the phrase it's about how people use it to promote "evil" or "sinful" behavior. If you can't see it you're probably blind.
@@timex1440spno the TC is still right. Sure, people have used it to troll the Jewish people like Sneako or Andrew Tate, but the TC is still correct in that the phrase was always divisive and offensive to all other religions because it’s a reminder they are not in the true faith. Only Christ is King, only He is the way, truth, and the life. He is the only way to the Father. It was a phrase that always offended the Jews we are just now being reminded of that is all
Keep in mind that Jesus' *goal* is not just division for its own sake. Jesus* goal is to save us. The Greek word "diavolos," on the other hand, means "the divider" or "the scatterer." He is one who sows division for its own sake.
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
@@theguyver4934 dude.... what addled brained Muslim "apologist" blog are you quoting? And do you expect to do anything but look naive to actual Christians with rubbish like that?
I don’t think Ben is offended by someone saying Christ is King when they really mean it. Ben quotes Catholic philosophers and theologians in his program, invites Catholic priests, and quite frankly knows the New Testament and follows God’s laws better than most Catholics. There was a lot more going on with Candace. It’s safe to say you don’t listen to either of them.
Is it really a persecution complex if persecution actually is happening and has been going on for thousands of years? Some Jews may be seeing antisemitism where none exists but that doesn’t mean persecution is nonexistent
@@gavindavis9636 precisely, let’s be clear about Candace Owens, she has actual neo_Nazis following her on Twitter and he has even “liked” a tweet repeating the blood libel about Jews drinking Christian blood. In such a context, everything she says is suspect.
Now say it to a Jew as an insult in the middle of an argument where you are red in the face angry--using a common Christian saying as an insult and a slur. Don't think Jesus likes his name being used angrily as an egotistical insult intending to demean someone. Jesus really had a problem with hypocrites.
@@onvogmasaj How could Jesus possibly be God ? How could God receive a death penalty from what he created ? How could our universe still exist if God was dead for 3 days ?
@@cmount7655 You're a perfect example of why the phrase can be problematic. You're not speaking the truth in charity. You're speaking it because you derive some satisfaction out of getting a negative reaction out of people. This is how you cause scandal.
@TurkeySmashR You're the perfect example of a petulant child who is problematic. The phrase is a proclamation of the truth no matter who says it, and for whatever reason, they say it. Even if it is offensive to your childish sensibilities.
Modern Judaism is against Christ by definition and function, being in opposition of their rejection of God doesn't make you antisemitic, we don't hate them. We want them to join us.
Not to disagree with you, but conversion is genocide to them, because they cease to be Jewish if they convert. I find that to be serious bunk, but whatever.
“Christ is King” can never be a problematic statement. Ever. Ever. It’s a pure statement of fact like saying “Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess”.
Is it not written, “For he will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone”? Do you see how that sounds now when you just declare “Christ is King”?
I’m tired of followers of Jesus Christ acting like our salvation is contingent on our belief in anything involving Jews, Israel, the Holocaust, or any other man or group of people besides Jesus and the Trinity.
I'm tired of the constant accusations of Nazism when our ancestors died fighting nazis. It's so evil and manipulative. And if they are Jewish it's really really ungrateful Even worse Zionists seem to engage in this tactic to cover up the genocide of Palestinians
Does "Christ is King" offend Buddhists? No. Does it offend agnostics? No. Does it offend Japanese? Chinese? Hispanics? No. Does it offend Satanists? Yes. Does it offend jews? Apparently, yes. Do I care? Yes (only in the fact that I find it funny.)
It offends them because it is being used as a chant by NJF fanboys and was literally their answer to when he said "I love you-know-who". Its the context its being said, not the phrase itself, just like "God is greater" being said in arab
I have not seen a single person say that just saying "Christ is King" is anti-semitic. The contention is that some people say it while being anti-semitic and that using the Lords name in such a context is wrong. It's a third commandment violation
What about at the 4th lateran council where jews where forbidden to hold public office? Would Catholics at the time been in sin for supporting the law or for not?
In some way, Trent will work this so that it isn't discrimination when the Catholic Church does it. The argument was that Jews took financial advantage of the Christians (Usary), but that sounds like a stereotype to me.
“The Jews fell from their heights because of their faithlessness and condemned their Redeemer to a shameful death. This godlessness has assumed such forms that, for the salvation of our own people, it becomes necessary to prevent their influence” - Pope St Pius V, Hebraeorum gens
@@tomasrocha6139Yikes, trying to use predeterminism as an excuse for evilness. Council of Trent (1547, long before Vatican 2, and this well poisoner of a RUclipsr) No one, moreover, so long as he is in this mortal life, ought so far to presume as regards the secret mystery of divine predestination, as to determine for certain that he is assuredly in the number of the predestinate; as if it were true, that he that is justified, either cannot sin any more, or, if he do sin, that he ought to promise himself an assured repentance; for except by special revelation, it cannot be known whom God hath chosen unto Himself.
Ambiguity is best answered by clarity. If terms are being abused by people who wish us ill, then we ought to more clearly define what we mean - that there is such a thing as truly sinful antisemitism, which does not include simple criticism of Judaism, the Israeli state, or individual Jews.
I think Shulamit Aloni, former Israeli cabinet member summed it up pretty well in that old interview she did when she said that labeling people anti-semitic is "a trick" they always use to stifle criticism of them. Like if I bring up how messed up it was what they did to Rachel Corrie or the veterans of the U.S.S. Liberty I may be labeled "anti-semitic" to try and shut me up, or to discredit what I'm bringing attention to in the eyes of others.
By modern definitions every Church Father was anti-semitic. The Church was also hard supersessionist forever despite members of the 20th-21st century hierarchy trying to placate Jews
@@harrisonsamson Jesus did not deny his own Messiahship. He did NOT belong to the religion currently called Judaism. He was of the tribe of Judah and ethnically shares a SMALL (tiny!) amount of their DNA. He'd share more DNA with the Palestinians currently being murdered by Israel.
@@harrisonsamson Heretics use this line to deny the divinity of jesus and paint him as "just a man" that was exceptional because "he was jewish", this is just sophistry designed to divide the christian faith.
@@harrisonsamson ethnically yes, he is a descendant of king David. religiously, i have no idea because it is a special case given he is literally god. i am a catholic and even saying he is catholic doesn't sound appropriate.
No, Christ is King, and the Jews need to know their Lord. Edit: This is not at all a dog whistle to antisemitism, but we who are in Christ are the New Israel which is the Church.
@@bengensiejewski5002 There is no way your reading comprehension could possibly be this poor. “I like pancakes” “Oh , so you hate waffles?” No. That’s a whole new sentence.
He's not misrepresenting Chesterton. Chesterton said both good things and bad things. You should speak truth and take off your rosed colored glasses. Speaking to the Lord Chief Justice of England, Rufus Isaacs, the second practicing Jew to be a member of Cabinet in the UK, Chesterton said, "Is there any man who doubts that you will be sympathetic with the Jewish International?" As these are not isolated incidents. There are numerous examples.
@alfredocosta3416 Are you serious? There has been a ton of harassment against Shapiro, Klavan, Boering, Trent Horn and Lila Rose since this whole thing started. Not to mention this is happening in an environment of increased antisemitic attacks in general.
And Jesus doesn't need you spamming "Christ is King" to every Jew you cross. Sloganeering is NOT effective evangelism, no matter how much you hate Jews.
@@Foreign0817post resurrection Jewish belief and pre resurrection Jewish belief are radically different. The ones of today have nothing in common with the apostles, who all died for Christ Jesus
1 Corinthians 16 14 Let all things be done with Charity. Candace liked a post accusing a rabbi of drinking Christian blood. It's safe to say Candace is not being overly charitable with her statements towards Jews recently, nor is she trying to convert any Jews to our Savior. Yes, Christ does care about the feelings of others in so far as it persuades those to the truth without distorting the truth.
I'm Christian. "Christ the King lives" was on the lips of our beloved martyrs in Mexico when they were killed by their government... and It offends me when Nick Fuentes uses the same phrase as a cloak to preach his bigoted politics.
Despite 'Christ is king' not being anti-Semitic itself, neo-Nazis like Nick Fuentes and others who claim to be Christian, are using it to gain backing from Christians and push their extreme beliefs.
All nations shall confess His name. The jews now have a nation called “Israel”, but we Catholics are the True Israel and we will convert jews to Christ! Christ is King.
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." Using Jesus' name as a weapon against people you hate is committing this sin.
Klavan’s response was about as anti-Christian as one can get. If he really believed in Christ he would hope and pray that Shapiro would one day experience the love of Christ. On no grounds does a Christian hope that another person (especially one who he cares about) doesn’t find Christ because it might “make their family uncomfortable” or whatever. The gospel specifically tells us that following Christ may divide families. I’ve been a fan of Shapiro’s for a long time, including the times he mocked Christ which were quite insulting. But as of late he’s been insufferable with labeling everything even slightly critical of Israel or Jews as “anti-Semitic.” Does that also make saying “Merry Christmas” to a Jew anti-Semitic? It’s absurd. Christ is king. Deal with it.
I don't think that's what Klavan was saying in the context of the rest of his comments. I think he was describing one aspect of why people shouldn't be surprised that someone in Ben's position hasn't converted to Christianity just because they were told the gospel once or twice. Yes, of course we're called to leave everyone we love behind if it comes to a choice between them and the Lord. We should pray that people who come to see the truth have the strength for that. Meanwhile, as Christians we're not going to seriously convert anyone by taking an antagonistic stance toward them. Almost all the convert stories I've ever heard involved some Christian influence in their lives that was more reasonable, compassionate, and/or loving than the person expected.
This point is where evangelism fails. "I like you, but you do not accept Christ, therefore you are an unperson. Deal with it." Who in their right mind would become a Christian when this is how it is presented? Maybe you need to learn about your own faith. CCC paragraphs 839 and 840 would help. From 839: "To the Jews belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ; for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."
The "sin" of antisemitism. Apparently it's now a sin the criticize Jews or Israel in any way. Seriously, go look up the ADL definition of antisemitism. Jews need to chill out. 😎
@raskolnikov6443 Not really. I'm taking an issue with his language. He can say "oh, well that's not what antisemitism means", but who really determines what it means? Moreover, antisemitism is particularly concerned with Jews, but there is no sin that is particular to Jews. If there is a sin in "antisemitism" (whatever that means), it's a sin that can, in principle, be committed against anyone, not just Jews. Jews do not get special treatment.
@@SevereFamineYou have the sacred heart as your avatar. St Paul and St Peter both said the Jews killed Christ, they campaigned for it and they chose to release Barabbas a violent revolutionary instead of Christ. St Paul in the Bible The infallible word of God said in Thessalonians that the Jews killed Christ and the prophets and persecuted them and are "The enemies of all mankind." St Peter also said to the Jews that they killed Christ and when hearing this the Jews were cut to the heart.
@@SevereFamine They called for the death of Jesus, have you read the bible before? Pontius Pilate didn't want to kill Jesus initially, but the Jews persisted in asking for his death
I like how you use a video of a Jewish woman lecturing a Catholic about her faith in a scenario that would never be reversed without serious condemnation.
We shouldn't apologize for saying things like Christ is King, Deus Vult, or any other acclamations of faith. People are using anti-semitism as an excuse to try to suppress God-fearing Christians.
Nobody’s saying you should apologize for simple proclaiming Christ is King - Trent is saying that of course we should say it because it’s TRUE. But when the phrase “I love hitler” (even as a joke after praising hitler) is immediately followed by chants of “Christ is Kind” then clearly something has gone wrong for the people in that moment, at that place, who are saying that. That seems pretty self evident, is it not?
@@TheNemkrisdepends. When saying “I love Hitler” is he saying “I will the good for Hitler and that God has mercy and justice on his soul”? Or is he saying “I agree with Hitler’s ideas and his actions”? These are two very different uses of the word love and from everything I’ve seen of Nick Fuentes, I’m inclined to believe it’s the latter rather than the former
@@littledrummergirl_19 It is, but just about every statement of truth is shared by people who are vile. Just because they use it shouldn't taint the phrase. This attitude only ever gets turned against Christians. BLM types will say things that are just as bad, and yet they don't feel the need to change their speech or back down.
Jesus Yeshua is Jews first Christian were but so many Jews hate Jesus because of the Pharisees against him but Jesus himself say salvation come from Jews Jesus say no one is taking my life Jesus Christ is the king 👑 ❤
The double standard used on Nick is astonishing. Christians and conservatives will accept Christ hating baby murderers in a sec and condemn a 24 year old Virgin who's never committed a crime and wants God supreme in his nation.
@@PuzzlesC4M The point is Destiny’s sinful actions cause far more offensive to Catholic doctrine than the claims again Nick, yet Trent Horn has engaged with a dialogue with Destiny and has refused to debate people accused of Holocaust Denial and Anti Semitism. Also, the opponent being Christian has nothing to do with anything as Trent has debated atheists many times
@@Qwerty-jy9mj Nick is one of the top-viewed streamers on Rumble, was an advisor to Kanye West (YE) who’s a top 5 most successful rapper, had dinner with YE and former president Trump, and revealed had a conversation with the Daily Wire CEO. I can go on, but to call Nick “marginal” is incorrect esp I when Trent sees it important to put Nick in the thumbnail and talk at length about the controversy he helped stoke
It's just annoying that we yet again have to have a conversation about Jewish feelings and anti-Semitism when these people have killed 8,000 kids in Gaza. And by the way they are running the American foreign policy so we should be doing videos on that instead of their hurt feelings. What did Candace say or do that was anti-Semitic That is to say what did she do that proves she hates people due to their DNA? I would say she did nothing wrong.
If people don't like Catholic values, they should be concerned if Catholics are overrepresented in powerful positions. Same thing if you don't like the values of Mormons, Hindus, Amish, Muslim, or insert any religious belief. If you don't like Jewish values, it's ok to be concerned about how those values are shaping your society (ie sending billions of dollars to fight a war in Gaza), and people should be allowed to have a discussion about it.
@@boss180888I listened to the whole video and his arguments in favor of Jewish commentators to reject the “Christ is kings” statement was by giving two pathetic examples that DO NOT represent us!!’ Im so disappointed with “The best Catholic apologist”. Maybe he is not too close friend with Cadence or her husband.
The phrase “Christ is King” is anti-Semitic. Christ is the antithesis (anti) of what the Jews (semites) have in mind when it comes to a messiah. Doesn’t mean the phrase is hateful, it’s just the truth
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." Using Jesus' name as a weapon against people you hate is committing the above sin.
@@shawn7587 Weaponizing it against a specific group is wrong, and the groypers have done that so effectively that now when people see if they wonder if it is a coded antisemitic statement. This is a horrendous abuse of God's name.
Klavan has a gay son that is married to another man. Klaven says that this is not sinful, and he has also recently stated that Paul's teachings can be disregarded if there is any tension with what Jesus said in the Gospels. It's telling that this is not the scandal for the online Christian commentators but rather the fact that other Christians refuse to be silenced by people like Klavan with the profession that "Christ is King".(Basically saying Christ is our moral guide, not you) This is just more evidence that "antisemitism", a meaningless word that has been used to shut Christians up for too long, is the arch-sin that any Christian could ever commit in the minds of most people. Until we fix our moral compasses, we are destined to continue losing the war for the soul of our country.
Klavan is a heretic for asserting that Jesus death on the cross did NOT replace the old tribal Hebrew covenant with the new universal Christian covenant.
I’m not a trad by any means, but I would love a video explaining why 1,960 years of teachings were disavowed. Especially the when the group being taught against teach explicitly blasphemous things about our Lord and his mother
"This is what I mean. Some of you say, `I belong to Paul.' Others say, `I belong to Apollos.' And others say, `I belong to Cephas'. And yet others say, `I belong to Christ.' Is Christ divided? Was Paul nailed to the cross for you? No! Were you baptized in Paul's name? No!" 1 Corinthians.
The characterization of G.K. Chesterton as antisemitic is completely inaccurate and frankly upsetting. The Chesterton Society has a web page devoted to answering this charge and I would highly encourage you to read it.
Trent is of Jewish heritage and while I do not doubt his Catholicism I think he has a certain soft spot for them, and thus make poor attempts of “proving” antisemitism against them by great Catholics Like GK Chesterton.
Ben Shapiro literally mocked Christ, when he referenced The Passion 2, by adding a tag line that read. “Passion 2, -Won’t get crossed again-” and he’s never taken it off his X/Twitter feed.
@@littledrummergirl_19 prominent Jews have no problem offending Christian’s with their mockery of Christ. But are ultra sensitive when it comes to someone offending them. But this is the Christian virtue. The ever reaching hand of grace and forgiveness that is most often mistaken for weakness and many times does divulge into being lukewarm.
@@johnmorrison3560 The fact that every time I mention my opinion it is swiped, probably tells me it's something they don't want people to hear 🙉🙊🙉 After the Reconquista societies within societies were formed.
I love when you claim that Christ is King; just don’t claim that Jesus is G_d! You can also claim that Trump is King!!! Hope, it makes you feel better! 😂
@landon8214 Catholics also claim that they worship same god as Muslims! 🤣 Claiming something in your own home has zero bearing on me. I have seen many Christians claim Trump is King! For you, King is more important than G_d! Person is called by the highest title! 🤣 You guys will worship anything that comes along with! If Trump was Catholic you would make him Saint Donald by now🤣 I think I should open up a business “Christ is Carpenter” add phone number, I think it even has good ring to it!
I completely disagree with the idea that complaining about the over-representation of a group is bigoted. I would fully expect a non-Catholic to be uneasy by the fact that Catholics are over-represented in the supreme court, I think they would be wrong in this belief, I obviously wouldn't be uneasy because of it, but it is a completely reasonable position to hold for a non-Catholic. the same applies to the over representation of Jews.
Not to mention, the Church itself has issued magisterial injunctions saying that this particular group is not to holy public office over Christians. See Lateran IV, canon 69
So true. Trent is still constrained in the liberal framework when he says this. This doesn't make me mad at Trent, we all have to break out of the post WW2 liberal consensus (the most recent iteration of the City of Man) It does demonstrate that he is still influenced by modernism which is hardly surprising for a Ratzingerarian/JPII Catholic. To be clear Trent is not the enemy, he just doesn't understand how deep the rabbit hole goes. This is another reason why we must reject evolutionism. Rejection of Christ the King goes all the way back to Cain and Abel and to Satan in the Garden. When you see these are mere stories of fiction as opposed to history, you don't see that this rejection is utterly ancient and inherited in a real sense. "Jerusalem Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee" "his blood be upon us and our children". It is right there, if you have eyes to see it.
@@Wagnersuperior Why would you expect non-catholics to be uneasy about it? Part of the process of the Supreme Court is to present arguments and to explain why they voted a certain way. Unless they're saying, "I voted this way because of my Church’s teaching." What is there to worry about? Was the overturning of RvW due to there being Catholics on the court, or because RvW was a horrible decision that needed to be overturned since there is clearly no right to abortion in the constitution? Even within religious and racial populations, there are differences. Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are both Catholic, do you think prochoicers would have a problem with judges who think like them were on the Supreme Court? They are Catholic after all. Look at how politically split Jews are. There are so many that are liberal democrats. What exactly is it about being a Jew that anyone should feel uneasy about them being overrepresented? Do they all think alike? What's the difference from being religiously Jewish, ethnically Jewish and culturally jewish. I've seen many people who clearly fit into each of these and not the others. What is a Jew exactly and what is it about them that makes people so uneasy. How is your reasoning not a version DEI.
@@anthonysmith3450 whites are the only group that are so deracinated that they can't conceive of the idea that a member of a group would prioritize other members of his group. Unlike whites in the liberal west, every other group prefers their own. It is this way with jews. Who can blame them? In group preference isn't even a bad thing. I prefer Catholic justices. You are playing by the rules of your enemies. They laugh at you while they subvert the rules they made. History has shown this to be rule, just go look. Like Trent you are looking at the world through a liberal lens. Divorce yourself completely from that constraint. Like I said, the situation is clear. The grand narrative of the Gospel is still visible today. The forces of Christ the King are at war with the antichrist and his minions. I don't mean it in some conspiratorial way, but you are either with Christ or you are against him.
Trent you're wasting everyone's time listing things that aren't antisemitic. So Candice Owens recent interview with that Rabbi shows, it doesn't matter what you think antisemitism is, whatever THEY call antisemitism is antisemitism.. criticism of the nation of Israel falls into that category
Yep I think Trent, just like many others, is completely glossing over the real issue at hand here. There is reason why not just saying "Christ is king" but saying that there is no salvation out side of Christ, the Good Friday prayer for the conversion of the Jews, the passion narrative read on Palm Sunday and other affirmations of the Catholic faith are called "problematic" and "antisemitic" by Jews. By their own definition of antisemitism which was given by the Rabbi that Candace interviewed, those affirmations fall into that category. This discourse inevitably leads to categorizing Catholicism itself as antisemitic. It has nothing to do with "hate" or "criticism" or Nick Fuentes praising Hitler. That is just a distraction.
And the rabbi was trying to of course have the Monopoly on sorrow trying to get Candice to admit that whatever happened to Israel and the Jews was a "unique evil" It seems like the people who have a superiority complex is the Jews.
@@ChronoSoul Trent's clarifications don't mean 2 shits to these people. They'll keep call you antisemit no matter how many clarifications you make because that word is nothing more than a weapon
@@SneakyEmu Careful there. Remember, swearing is not only impercise but can also be sinful. Also who is they? Why are you generalizing a group as large as the Jewish people? He clarifies so you can understand his perspective on a set issue. He tries to DEFINE antisemitism to make sure Catholics don't engage in that form of sinful bigotry.
It is not bigoted to say I want my nation to ruled by Catholics. It is not sinful to say that my nation is disproportionately directed by Jews and that their decisions when they gain positions of power are usually very negative. Politically and culturally opposing the collective efforts of a group of people with a different faith, different moral system, and in-group preference that excludes me and the majority of my countrymen is morally justified.
Indeed and Trent here is basically equating the true religion and people who embrace and practice it with any other group from another religion or no religion at all.
Amen brother. The Jewish plague must be combatted how Jesus combatted it. He called them all instruments of Satan. If they don't convert, then indeed they are
@@Qwerty-jy9mj I agree with you that Trent spoke correctly about people blaspheming God by using the phrase “Christ is King“; however, Trent overstepped in his definition and explanation of the sin of antisemitism.
@@stcolreplover Destiny is also pretty bad with his support of sex work, abortion and LGBT but Trent was up for having a dialog. Bring Nick on and dialog it out so that Nick can better understand why he's wrong.
@@theurzamachine Number one this would Nuke Trents channel and number two, Nick has shown to be extremely duplicitous and arguing out of bad faith. Lastly, Trent is an apologetics nerd and probably a little too liberal to argue with a reactionary. Probably better to debate another dissident right figure who disagrees like the Distributist.
@@Aryanne_v2 perpetual servitude and taking their property simply because they are jews is not injustice? You'll have to unpack that one for me, because the same type of logic was used to justify enslavement of black people in the US.
@@Aryanne_v2perpetual servitude and taking their property simply because they are jews is not injustice? You'll have to unpack that one, because that kind of thinking has led to horrific things.
It's sad how we can't criticize anyone nowadays! If we criticize gays, we're called homophobic, if we criticize hamas, we're called Islamophobic, and that too. :/
Is Thessalonians anti-Semitic now? “for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: 15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.”
St. Paul is not speaking of the Jewish ethnic group in its entirety. He's speaking of the religious leaders of the Pharisees and Sanhedrin, you know, the ones actually leading the persecution. It doesn't take much thought to realize this.
@@jonahstephens2904 In other words, the penetrative Judaism at society’s highest reaches. The same critique that we wield against this Jewish aristocracy. What is the obfuscation?
I mean, that is a point, it's definitely a point. But, that means the definition of anti-semitic is way broader than it is said to be. This reminds me of how gay people call everyone homophobic for simply not agreeing with them, I worry that anti-semitic will end up being the conservative version of homophobic.
@@evanc.1591 Yes, I did. That is why I said something not intrinsically derogatory. Something that is not truly anti-semitic is not intrinsically derogatory. Trent also gave examples of how something is not truly anti-semitic but is labeled that way. That is why I said everything is anti-semitic even though it is not intrinsically derogatory. Do you know the definition of intrinsic?
@@RacingSnails64 What is considered hostile and prejudiced against Jews? As of now, it seems like anything that hurts someone's feelings is considered hostile and prejudiced. Trent Horn was labeled anti-semitic for analogizing abortion to the Holocaust. Was he hostile and prejudiced against Jewish people when he made that analogy?
I teach at a Christian school in Oklahoma. At the top center of my front wall is a little plaque that says simply "Jesus is Lord" and it ain't comin' down
@@johnnotrealname8168 It could be, depending on context. That's why I believe the purpose for this video is for us Christians to be aware and not discriminate against any non-Cristian group. Have a blessed day ❤️
@@dr.danburritoman1293two things can be true at the same time. It is true that antisemitism is sinful and it is also true that normal people are tired of hearing about antisemitism and the Js persecution complex.
@@Qwerty-jy9mjwhy is it not good? Who said christians should be lead by nonchristians, check Ukraine, their president banned the orthodox church and sends cops to beat up priests.
Because they weren't jokes. Fuentes actually idolizes Hitler. If he didn't, why does he talk about him so much with a big smile on his face? He knows he's being inflammatory and transgressive. "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’"
Horn knows that if Nick's jokes evoked Stalin, then he would be fine and there would be no controversy. There is a reason Horn is sensitive to one and not the other, and it's not because of anything the Bible says. He has been catechized by a sick and demented culture.
”But that doesn’t matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice.“ Philippians 1:18 NLT
Trent, why do you assume that the "cultural norms" under which prior theologians, doctors & saints of the church operated were wrong, and that our current cultural norms are right? If anything, I think it's safer to assume that our cultural norms today are further away from Christ's teachings than in the time of Aquinas, etc.
If I am not misunderstanding you and you are implicitly asserting that the only possible conclusion is either “all new cultural norms are wrong” or “all new cultural norms are right”, then I believe you are asserting a false dichotomy. Because older and newer generations are both made of fallible people, plus the factors making up a cultural mindset are complex and not binary, it is possible for newer/older cultures to each have different areas where their norms are more right compared to the others’.
@@markcobuzzi826 My assertion is that generally our cultural norms of today have drifted further from Christianity than the cultural norms of the past. So, with that general assertion in mind, I think we should be skeptical of all cultural norms of today even if it's true that my general assertion does not mean that "all new cultural norms are wrong". My point is that all new cultural norms have a good likelihood of being wrong, so we should be skeptical of them. The cultural norm specifically in question here revolves around the critique of groups. Today's cultural norm seems to be that the only group allowed to be critiqued, as a group, is White Christians. All other people must only be critiqued as individuals, and not as part of a group, which is why we see Trent Horn and many others come to the defense of Jews when they are critiqued as a group. This is in contrast to prior cultural norms in which no group was exempt from critique, including Jews.
Simple question. Do you endorse the taking of property from Jewish people simply because they are Jewish or forcing them into perpetual servitude? Because that is the statement that your comment is defending.
I don't want to be antisemitic. What is antisemitic? The Catholic Church condemns all forms of antisemitism, so it MUST be a sin. But what is antisemitism? Is it sinful to criticize a Jewish person? Or even a Jewish law, custom, tradition, ... governmental policy of the State of Israel? If it is, did Jesus Christ commit this sin? He was for sure critical of some Pharisees, scribes, and a bunch of Jewish people. LORD have mercy, I hope we are not implying this.
Racial hatred is wrong. The Church should condemn it, but it should never make carve outs for specific groups. Why so much ink spilled and hands wrung regarding antisemitism but nothing regarding antisinoism?
What’s interesting is that yesterday, I dug into the “controversy” and I started watching Nick Fuentes and found myself agreeing with most of the things he says. Christ is King!
@@ryrocks9487 I agree, while I do think he jokes brashly, he 100% condemns hitler in multiple streams and says that he literally does not hate J, doesn’t want to kill them, etc.
@@salomevsn3724 I don’t think he’s smoking, I think he, like others is seeing the dishonesty of Trent Horn and being attracted to the people he lies about.
Actual short answer: no Actual developed answer: the phrase itself is not inherently bad, but the people who use it in a manner that carries the lords name in vain, have a tendency to use the phrase while pairing it with other antisemitic statements.
@@Desert-Father It went through legal trials multiple times, but whatever. Modern historians will always side with jews, no investigation is needed. You are right about him not being canonized but nobody here claimed he is.
Read Matthew about loving your neighbor and treating him like you want to be treated. Christ forgave and died for all. And all that pray "forgive us our trespasses and we forgive those who trespass against us" should not be holding grudges or preaching hate against an entire group of people.
@@Desert-Father It’s not friend it’s just a warning to evangelical and other groups of Christian’s with judaizer tendencies such as dispensationalism. And also those who call themselves Christian yet are diehard supporters of Israel. It’s important they know how the average religious Jewish person views us Christian’s. It’s like reading the Quran to understand why Christian’s are treated how they are in Islamic countries.
@@deacon6221 It's important for you to know what the Church teaches about dialogue with Jewish people. You seem to need some instruction. "The Church, therefore, exhorts her sons, that through dialogue and collaboration with the followers of other religions, carried out with prudence and love and in witness to the Christian faith and life, they recognize, preserve and promote the good things, spiritual and moral, as well as the socio-cultural values found among these men." Nostra aetate, paragraph 2. As regarding dialogue with Jews specifically the Church teaches, "Since the spiritual patrimony common to Christians and Jews is thus so great, this sacred synod wants to foster and recommend that mutual understanding and respect which is the fruit, above all, of biblical and theological studies as well as of fraternal dialogues." Nostra aetate, paragraph 4. The Church also teaches, "although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ. Furthermore, in her rejection of every persecution against any man, the Church, mindful of the patrimony she shares with the Jews and moved not by political reasons but by the Gospel's spiritual love, decries hatred, persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism, directed against Jews at any time and by anyone. Besides, as the Church has always held and holds now, Christ underwent His passion and death freely, because of the sins of men and out of infinite love, in order that all may reach salvation. It is, therefore, the burden of the Church's preaching to proclaim the cross of Christ as the sign of God's all-embracing love and as the fountain from which every grace flows." Nostra aetate, paragraph 4.
Pray for all the jews to return to Christ, look how astray they have gotten, to now being the attack dogs to any dissenting voice that ever questions what is clearly in opposition to peace, humanity, and God. Every knee will bend to the one true king.
What do you do with Saint Louis IX who had explicit instructions to his son to never hire Jews in power, and died shortly after that. Was he guilty of the serious sin of antisemitism?
I doubt any of these people that the Church confirms are in heaven repented of the "serious sin of anti-semitism". So it can't really be a "serious sin" can it?
As a catholic you should always be wary anyone in a position of authority or influence who isn't catholic (aka Christian). This isn't up for discussion. Never suffer a non-believer to wield power over you. “The Jews fell from their heights because of their faithlessness and condemned their Redeemer to a shameful death. This godlessness has assumed such forms that, for the salvation of our own people, it becomes necessary to prevent their influence” - Pope St Pius V, Hebraeorum gens
"Salvation is from the Jews." -Jesus to the Samaritan woman in John 4. "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, nor male nor female, for all are one in Christ Jesus." -Apostle Paul in Galations 3.
@@RacingSnails64 Salvation already came from the jews, Jesus. Modern jews only need to be saved like everyone else. As to positions of authority, there were these converted French Jews twins, Cohen brothers who wrote that jews couldnt hold the position of judges because they dont have the Holy Spirit. This is self evident for nations where the Faith is alive. For our current nations obviously such a notion is preposterous. Then you have jewesses pushing abortion as supreme judges on christian nations.
@@RacingSnails64 John 4 meant Christ and his apostles with their new Jewish followers who adopted Christianity (the fulfillment of OT Judaism) and spread the good news to the world. That's what that means. The Catechism and Church teachings are supremely clear on this. To counter signal is to miss the point entirely. Organized Talmudic Jewry (who hate Christ) is ruining the world, and only blind uneducated people can contest that fact.
I am extremely disappointed in all you Catholics who are not doing through research on this topic. A prominent political figure who was the political advisor of Kanye, who calls himself a Catholic and constantly jokes about killing Jews, started using the term "Christ is King" against Jews. Candace was closely aligned with Kanye who said he was going "death con 3 on (ethnic) Jews" and people are criticizing her for using it in the way she did, given her associations. People who do not understand this should do more research and stop painting Catholicism in such a harmful light. Imagine what Christian Jews must be feeling now. Gaslighting someone for concerns about people misusing Christianity for racial pursuits is justified. The Nazis did it and sadly many Christians and Catholics were complicit. Do not be complicit now.
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Christ is King. Say it back. ✝️
Christ is King.
Christ is King ✝️
Christ is King
Christ is King
I do do want to say "Christ is king" so i will do say Christ is king.
Christ is king.
My problem with Andrew Klavan is when he said Ben Shapiros family would be worse off turning to Christ…. Come on? Do we believe in Christ or not?
Klavan is an anglican, why would we expect any sort of rigor from protestants?
@@Qwerty-jy9mj this is true!
I would recommend watching brother Nathanael. he was raised as an orthodox jew and rabbi, but turned to Christ and even spent time as a monastic.
@@Qwerty-jy9mj
Bishop Barron said the same thing in his interview with Ben Shapiro, it isn’t just the Anglicans
He’s not saying that would be worse off. He’s saying for Ben to get saved. That would uproot everything in his life his family most of all. His entire family would not understand and it might cause huge division in them. It doesn’t mean Ben shouldn’t come to Christ, it just means that would be a big thing for him to do and we should all pray that he does some day. It’s different when you grow up like Ben has. Their faith and respect for God is very real, but they still do not believe in any way that Jesus is Messiah. So in order for someone to do that, they would have to deny their own religion to follow Christ. Their family and community might condemn them for that. So it would be hard for Ben to go against his entire family’s faith if he said he was saved and was not going to deny Jesus Christ as savior any longer.
“Christ is King” does cause division. Christ didn’t come to bring peace but a sword. The phrase is inherently opposed to fake religions.
Did you watch the video? It's not about the phrase it's about how people use it to promote "evil" or "sinful" behavior. If you can't see it you're probably blind.
@@timex1440spno the TC is still right. Sure, people have used it to troll the Jewish people like Sneako or Andrew Tate, but the TC is still correct in that the phrase was always divisive and offensive to all other religions because it’s a reminder they are not in the true faith. Only Christ is King, only He is the way, truth, and the life. He is the only way to the Father. It was a phrase that always offended the Jews we are just now being reminded of that is all
Keep in mind that Jesus' *goal* is not just division for its own sake. Jesus* goal is to save us.
The Greek word "diavolos," on the other hand, means "the divider" or "the scatterer." He is one who sows division for its own sake.
@@timex1440spChrist is king
The Prince of Peace didn't come to bring peace?
This is kosher Christianity. There is no Christianity without Christ as King: Christ is King!
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time
The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits
So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply
Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
Did you not watch the video?
@@theguyver4934 dude.... what addled brained Muslim "apologist" blog are you quoting? And do you expect to do anything but look naive to actual Christians with rubbish like that?
@@theguyver4934Bruh watch Sam Shamoun, he dismantles Islam, well worth a watch, I hope you may come to Christianity, the truest way of praising God.
Js sold out Jesus. they will pay for it sooner than later.
Its safe to say to Ben Shapiro : "Christ is King, because facts don't care about your feelings"
But Christ does care about our feelings. Watch the video.
@@PuzzlesC4M Trent Horn has no authority
@@PuzzlesC4MDoes Shapiro care about Christ's feelings while He was on the Cross?
I don’t think Ben is offended by someone saying Christ is King when they really mean it. Ben quotes Catholic philosophers and theologians in his program, invites Catholic priests, and quite frankly knows the New Testament and follows God’s laws better than most Catholics. There was a lot more going on with Candace. It’s safe to say you don’t listen to either of them.
@@PuzzlesC4Mfeelings have nothing to do with reality!
The Jewish persecution complex is so cringe. Christians have been saying “Christ is King” for centuries.
Wow it's almost like the backlash isn't actually about the phrase itself but the context it's being used in.
Is it really a persecution complex if persecution actually is happening and has been going on for thousands of years? Some Jews may be seeing antisemitism where none exists but that doesn’t mean persecution is nonexistent
Did you watch the video?
It’s the inherited guilt for killing the messiah.
@@gavindavis9636 precisely, let’s be clear about Candace Owens, she has actual neo_Nazis following her on Twitter and he has even “liked” a tweet repeating the blood libel about Jews drinking Christian blood. In such a context, everything she says is suspect.
Jesus Christ is King. Jesus Christ is the King of Kings. Jesus Christ is God.
Christ is King
Christ is God!
Now say it to a Jew as an insult in the middle of an argument where you are red in the face angry--using a common Christian saying as an insult and a slur. Don't think Jesus likes his name being used angrily as an egotistical insult intending to demean someone. Jesus really had a problem with hypocrites.
@@yugnokwrath is legitimate if for virtuous causes, like when they spit on our brothers in the middle of Jerusalem.
@@yugnokit is a supposed fictional case tou created in your mind anyway, no one actually uses our Lord to offend.
@@onvogmasaj How could Jesus possibly be God ? How could God receive a death penalty from what he created ? How could our universe still exist if God was dead for 3 days ?
Whether it's antisemitic or not, Christ is King of Kings.
If it’s antisemitic, I guess that’s an added bonus… and in that case, Christ is king!
@@cmount7655 You're a perfect example of why the phrase can be problematic. You're not speaking the truth in charity. You're speaking it because you derive some satisfaction out of getting a negative reaction out of people. This is how you cause scandal.
@@TurkeySmashR Youre 100% right. Christ is King should come from adoration, not spitefulness.
@TurkeySmashR
You're the perfect example of a petulant child who is problematic. The phrase is a proclamation of the truth no matter who says it, and for whatever reason, they say it. Even if it is offensive to your childish sensibilities.
@@TurkeySmashR No we're saying it because its a fact. If peoples feelings get hurt over it thats too bad. Anyway, CHRIST IS KING.
Modern Judaism is against Christ by definition and function, being in opposition of their rejection of God doesn't make you antisemitic, we don't hate them. We want them to join us.
Correct, Trent says as much in the video.
Not to disagree with you, but conversion is genocide to them, because they cease to be Jewish if they convert. I find that to be serious bunk, but whatever.
This is not relevant to the topic of the video.
Not just modern, since St. Paul was Saul...
@@ponti5882 Literally is but go off I guess.
“Christ is King” can never be a problematic statement. Ever. Ever. It’s a pure statement of fact like saying “Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess”.
so true, Christ is King Amen Hallelujah
anything can be uttered with ill will
Even the devil can quote scripture.
Is it not written, “For he will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone”?
Do you see how that sounds now when you just declare “Christ is King”?
Literal Muslims are using the phrase to “own the Jews” and you don’t have a problem with that. Wow.
Almost 2000 years ago Jews got offended when Pilate wrote '*Jesus the king of Jews*' They still get offended when they hear it
*Pilate
Which ones? The apostles? Iesus himself?
@@valuedCustomer2929they were Christian.
@@valuedCustomer2929 no the ones that rejected him as Lord and Savior
@@DrownedinDesignerJesus and the Apostles were ethnic Jews
I’m tired of followers of Jesus Christ acting like our salvation is contingent on our belief in anything involving Jews, Israel, the Holocaust, or any other man or group of people besides Jesus and the Trinity.
I'm tired of the constant accusations of Nazism when our ancestors died fighting nazis. It's so evil and manipulative. And if they are Jewish it's really really ungrateful
Even worse Zionists seem to engage in this tactic to cover up the genocide of Palestinians
Who is saying that?
@@TheJmlew11 Evangelical Christians have been brainwashed into believing that it is our duty to protect Israel somehow
@@TheJmlew11"Show me who you cannot criticize and I will show you your Masters." -Voltaire
So your works alone will get you salvation?
Does "Christ is King" offend Buddhists? No. Does it offend agnostics? No. Does it offend Japanese? Chinese? Hispanics? No. Does it offend Satanists? Yes. Does it offend jews? Apparently, yes.
Do I care? Yes (only in the fact that I find it funny.)
Yooo what's up PaulTown! Great to see you buddy
Hey there! I hope you're having a nice day. I am!@@TheAbele992
Christ is King, paultown! o7
THE Paul Town? Big!
It offends them because it is being used as a chant by NJF fanboys and was literally their answer to when he said "I love you-know-who". Its the context its being said, not the phrase itself, just like "God is greater" being said in arab
Is Saying "Christ is King" Antisemitic?
NO!
It is and that’s a good thing.
And I dont care if it is either!
The truth is antisemitic!
💯 its irrelevant! Christ is King!
Saying "Christ is King" with any hostile intention towards another person/people is sinful and using the Lord's name in vain.
it's not anti-semitic. It's a statement of fact. If some Jews have a problem with it, that's their problem and not ours.
i dont know any jews who have a problem with it. thats just the narrative some are trying to prop up, its a strawman tho.
Amen
I have not seen a single person say that just saying "Christ is King" is anti-semitic. The contention is that some people say it while being anti-semitic and that using the Lords name in such a context is wrong. It's a third commandment violation
@@benjamingybel7638 bingo!
You haven't actually watched the video have you?
What about at the 4th lateran council where jews where forbidden to hold public office? Would Catholics at the time been in sin for supporting the law or for not?
In some way, Trent will work this so that it isn't discrimination when the Catholic Church does it. The argument was that Jews took financial advantage of the Christians (Usary), but that sounds like a stereotype to me.
Given integralism, that applies to those who follow Judaism or any other religion for that matter.
“Anti-semitic, it’s a trick we always use it.” - former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni
False
@@DarkBlade37 its not false. She said it in interview with Amy Goodman years ago. ruclips.net/video/7BEVLD6YHsc/видео.html
@@DarkBlade37 actually, it's true
@@Grandlett false
@@DarkBlade37 ruclips.net/video/D0kWAqZxJVE/видео.htmlsi=oBTGiyySGrzscwHn
“The Jews fell from their heights because of their faithlessness and condemned their Redeemer to a shameful death. This godlessness has assumed such forms that, for the salvation of our own people, it becomes necessary to prevent their influence” - Pope St Pius V, Hebraeorum gens
Their influence very evil.
But wasn't that shameful death all part of God's plan to pay for our sins and save mankind? How can the Jews be blamed for it?
@@tomasrocha6139Yikes, trying to use predeterminism as an excuse for evilness.
Council of Trent (1547, long before Vatican 2, and this well poisoner of a RUclipsr)
No one, moreover, so long as he is in this mortal life, ought so far to presume as regards the secret mystery of divine predestination, as to determine for certain that he is assuredly in the number of the predestinate; as if it were true, that he that is justified, either cannot sin any more, or, if he do sin, that he ought to promise himself an assured repentance; for except by special revelation, it cannot be known whom God hath chosen unto Himself.
@@ReturnoftheLightning None of Jesus' killers are in their mortal life. I'm not claiming to be saved by predestination ot anything of the sort
if jews are mad and scared.
we are going in the right direction.
Christ is King!
Trent forgot antisemitism evolves and becomes whatever it needs to be to silence any criticism of Israel or Jews.
Ambiguity is best answered by clarity. If terms are being abused by people who wish us ill, then we ought to more clearly define what we mean - that there is such a thing as truly sinful antisemitism, which does not include simple criticism of Judaism, the Israeli state, or individual Jews.
free israel from hamas
@@evanc.1591I see you are also trying to comment on other people’s misunderstandings about the video, I’ve seen other comments from you, thank you.
I think Shulamit Aloni, former Israeli cabinet member summed it up pretty well in that old interview she did when she said that labeling people anti-semitic is "a trick" they always use to stifle criticism of them. Like if I bring up how messed up it was what they did to Rachel Corrie or the veterans of the U.S.S. Liberty I may be labeled "anti-semitic" to try and shut me up, or to discredit what I'm bringing attention to in the eyes of others.
Lol yup. That's what that insane ADL guy on one of Candace's last shows said. Insane. A word with a shifting definition has no meaning
By modern definitions every Church Father was anti-semitic. The Church was also hard supersessionist forever despite members of the 20th-21st century hierarchy trying to placate Jews
not exactly. There is a stark difference between antisemitism and antijudaism
@@deutschermichel5807 You try explaining that to the ADL and see how that goes.
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I don't care if it offends Jews
I don't care if it offends anyone at all.
Jesus also was Jewish too right?
@@harrisonsamson Jesus did not deny his own Messiahship. He did NOT belong to the religion currently called Judaism. He was of the tribe of Judah and ethnically shares a SMALL (tiny!) amount of their DNA. He'd share more DNA with the Palestinians currently being murdered by Israel.
@@harrisonsamson Heretics use this line to deny the divinity of jesus and paint him as "just a man" that was exceptional because "he was jewish", this is just sophistry designed to divide the christian faith.
@@harrisonsamson ethnically yes, he is a descendant of king David. religiously, i have no idea because it is a special case given he is literally god. i am a catholic and even saying he is catholic doesn't sound appropriate.
No, Christ is King, and the Jews need to know their Lord.
Edit: This is not at all a dog whistle to antisemitism, but we who are in Christ are the New Israel which is the Church.
It would be preferable to say this (ie fuentes) without praising hitler, but evangelization is good.
@@TheWhitePine5 Thank you for telling me how to worship Jesus jewish guy
so you’re saying yes to praising hitler?
@@bengensiejewski5002 we should be able to praise anyone. We're all made in God's image, even Hitler.
@@bengensiejewski5002 There is no way your reading comprehension could possibly be this poor.
“I like pancakes”
“Oh
, so you hate waffles?”
No. That’s a whole new sentence.
Misrepresenting Chesterton like that is appalling. Thanks to the other commenters who set the record straight.
He's not misrepresenting Chesterton. Chesterton said both good things and bad things. You should speak truth and take off your rosed colored glasses. Speaking to the Lord Chief Justice of England, Rufus Isaacs, the second practicing Jew to be a member of Cabinet in the UK, Chesterton said, "Is there any man who doubts that you will be sympathetic with the Jewish International?" As these are not isolated incidents. There are numerous examples.
@@Desert-Father ok where are the bad things then? that's facts
@alfredocosta3416 Are you serious? There has been a ton of harassment against Shapiro, Klavan, Boering, Trent Horn and Lila Rose since this whole thing started. Not to mention this is happening in an environment of increased antisemitic attacks in general.
@@Desert-Fatherhi mossad
@@Desert-Father Hi golem!
Christ is King and everyone who doesn't like that better learn to like it.
Tell me you didn't watch the video without watching the video :S
Zoomers have neither reading comprehension skills nor attention spans@@timex1440sp
yeah nobody argued otherwise
Completely missed the point of the video. I’m glad I’m not this thick.
I don't need jews to tell me how to properly say Christ is King.
And Jesus doesn't need you spamming "Christ is King" to every Jew you cross. Sloganeering is NOT effective evangelism, no matter how much you hate Jews.
Literal Muslims are using the phrase to “own the Jews” and you don’t have a problem with that. Wow.
The Jews who became the first Christians and coined the phrase: 😐
@@Foreign0817post resurrection Jewish belief and pre resurrection Jewish belief are radically different. The ones of today have nothing in common with the apostles, who all died for Christ Jesus
@@BullSheeper Same ethnic ancestry, though.
Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Praise Christ the Everlasting King!
I'm Catholic Filipino and I proud to say "Christ is King" and " Christ is King of Kings".
“Christ is King” offends no one but Jews… Not our problem.
1 Corinthians 16 14 Let all things be done with Charity. Candace liked a post accusing a rabbi of drinking Christian blood. It's safe to say Candace is not being overly charitable with her statements towards Jews recently, nor is she trying to convert any Jews to our Savior. Yes, Christ does care about the feelings of others in so far as it persuades those to the truth without distorting the truth.
I'm Christian. "Christ the King lives" was on the lips of our beloved martyrs in Mexico when they were killed by their government... and It offends me when Nick Fuentes uses the same phrase as a cloak to preach his bigoted politics.
@@JacksonC-8000look up St Simon the infant martyr
They did and do drink blood of Christians lol @@JacksonC-8000
Despite 'Christ is king' not being anti-Semitic itself, neo-Nazis like Nick Fuentes and others who claim to be Christian, are using it to gain backing from Christians and push their extreme beliefs.
All nations shall confess His name. The jews now have a nation called “Israel”, but we Catholics are the True Israel and we will convert jews to Christ! Christ is King.
The only Israel that exists is the followers of Christ.
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."
Using Jesus' name as a weapon against people you hate is committing this sin.
Klavan’s response was about as anti-Christian as one can get. If he really believed in Christ he would hope and pray that Shapiro would one day experience the love of Christ. On no grounds does a Christian hope that another person (especially one who he cares about) doesn’t find Christ because it might “make their family uncomfortable” or whatever. The gospel specifically tells us that following Christ may divide families. I’ve been a fan of Shapiro’s for a long time, including the times he mocked Christ which were quite insulting. But as of late he’s been insufferable with labeling everything even slightly critical of Israel or Jews as “anti-Semitic.” Does that also make saying “Merry Christmas” to a Jew anti-Semitic? It’s absurd. Christ is king. Deal with it.
I don't think that's what Klavan was saying in the context of the rest of his comments. I think he was describing one aspect of why people shouldn't be surprised that someone in Ben's position hasn't converted to Christianity just because they were told the gospel once or twice. Yes, of course we're called to leave everyone we love behind if it comes to a choice between them and the Lord. We should pray that people who come to see the truth have the strength for that. Meanwhile, as Christians we're not going to seriously convert anyone by taking an antagonistic stance toward them. Almost all the convert stories I've ever heard involved some Christian influence in their lives that was more reasonable, compassionate, and/or loving than the person expected.
Did you watch the entirety of Klavan's response?
This point is where evangelism fails. "I like you, but you do not accept Christ, therefore you are an unperson. Deal with it." Who in their right mind would become a Christian when this is how it is presented? Maybe you need to learn about your own faith. CCC paragraphs 839 and 840 would help. From 839: "To the Jews belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ; for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."
@@brianstacey2679 well put.
@Matt23455 I hope you learn to become a good and charitable person someday.
The "sin" of antisemitism.
Apparently it's now a sin the criticize Jews or Israel in any way.
Seriously, go look up the ADL definition of antisemitism. Jews need to chill out. 😎
That’s clearly a misrepresentation/ straw man.
@raskolnikov6443
Not really. I'm taking an issue with his language. He can say "oh, well that's not what antisemitism means", but who really determines what it means?
Moreover, antisemitism is particularly concerned with Jews, but there is no sin that is particular to Jews. If there is a sin in "antisemitism" (whatever that means), it's a sin that can, in principle, be committed against anyone, not just Jews. Jews do not get special treatment.
@@nietzschesmoustache3585 yes really
@@emreakkaya6400
Good take.
For reference the belief that Jews killed jesus is considered antisemetic blood-libel. Its also in the bible.
Caiaphas was definitely a huge antisemite
The Romans killed Jesus. The Jews had him killed. Ultimately we are all responsible for the death of Christ.
@@SevereFamineYou have the sacred heart as your avatar. St Paul and St Peter both said the Jews killed Christ, they campaigned for it and they chose to release Barabbas a violent revolutionary instead of Christ.
St Paul in the Bible The infallible word of God said in Thessalonians that the Jews killed Christ and the prophets and persecuted them and are "The enemies of all mankind."
St Peter also said to the Jews that they killed Christ and when hearing this the Jews were cut to the heart.
@@SevereFamine They called for the death of Jesus, have you read the bible before? Pontius Pilate didn't want to kill Jesus initially, but the Jews persisted in asking for his death
@@SevereFamine Just read the entirety of John 19
Do not waste your time apologizing to the Jews.
Christ is King.
He is a jew! Surprise!
He is a jew
Yes. In the words of Blessed Miguel Pro (Mexican Martyr) ¡VIVA CRISTO REY!!!!!!!!!!!
Never in this world or lifetime
Jews are out of control and Scripture says they will be punished severely in the end times for their wicked, unrepentant behavior.
Jews getting mad at me saying Christ is king is just giving me more reason to say Christ is king.
Jews get mad when anti-semites spam "Christ is King" everywhere with the intent to antagonize them.
Same. Like the office quote "makes me want to do it even harder" Pam responds "what does that mean" Michael responds "you know what that means".
bro im gonna get it priinted on tv shirts and get a bumber sticker
There you go buddy...your heart is hard
@@marymckay7154wah wah jewess
I like how you use a video of a Jewish woman lecturing a Catholic about her faith in a scenario that would never be reversed without serious condemnation.
Bingo
We shouldn't apologize for saying things like Christ is King, Deus Vult, or any other acclamations of faith. People are using anti-semitism as an excuse to try to suppress God-fearing Christians.
Nobody’s saying you should apologize for simple proclaiming Christ is King - Trent is saying that of course we should say it because it’s TRUE. But when the phrase “I love hitler” (even as a joke after praising hitler) is immediately followed by chants of “Christ is Kind” then clearly something has gone wrong for the people in that moment, at that place, who are saying that. That seems pretty self evident, is it not?
@@littledrummergirl_19 You should love everyone. You don't know this? Are you even a Christian?
@@TheNemkrisdepends. When saying “I love Hitler” is he saying “I will the good for Hitler and that God has mercy and justice on his soul”? Or is he saying “I agree with Hitler’s ideas and his actions”? These are two very different uses of the word love and from everything I’ve seen of Nick Fuentes, I’m inclined to believe it’s the latter rather than the former
@@littledrummergirl_19
It is, but just about every statement of truth is shared by people who are vile. Just because they use it shouldn't taint the phrase. This attitude only ever gets turned against Christians. BLM types will say things that are just as bad, and yet they don't feel the need to change their speech or back down.
@@littledrummergirl_19
It is, but just because people who are vile will use the phrase, we shouldn't abandon it or be fearful of using it.
CHRIST IS KING
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."
Ok what about the contempt for Christ in the Talmud?? Is that disgusting anti Christian language...where is their apology
Who cares what jews think. Worry about your own walk with God
@@WhatsTheTakeaway Good point. Deus Vault
Who is owed an apology for that? Certainly not you.
@@jdotoz You'll notice a say their apology.
I don't care, I'd rather just acknowledge and be able to openly criticise the truth of Judaism.
@@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE Who's stopping you?
Come to Christ Jews! Christ is King!
Jesus Yeshua is Jews first Christian were but so many Jews hate Jesus because of the Pharisees against him but Jesus himself say salvation come from Jews Jesus say no one is taking my life Jesus Christ is the king 👑 ❤
@@luisrosalesEAGLE Salvation does not come from Jews, it only comes from Jesus Christ.
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."
If you can debate Destiny, who’s actually advocated for violence and had an open marriage, then you can debate Nick Fuentes
The double standard used on Nick is astonishing. Christians and conservatives will accept Christ hating baby murderers in a sec and condemn a 24 year old Virgin who's never committed a crime and wants God supreme in his nation.
this is not a bad argument, ultimately the problem is that Fuentes is marginal while unfortunately destiny isn't.
But Destiny doesn't claim to be a Christian as far as I know.
@@PuzzlesC4M The point is Destiny’s sinful actions cause far more offensive to Catholic doctrine than the claims again Nick, yet Trent Horn has engaged with a dialogue with Destiny and has refused to debate people accused of Holocaust Denial and Anti Semitism. Also, the opponent being Christian has nothing to do with anything as Trent has debated atheists many times
@@Qwerty-jy9mj Nick is one of the top-viewed streamers on Rumble, was an advisor to Kanye West (YE) who’s a top 5 most successful rapper, had dinner with YE and former president Trump, and revealed had a conversation with the Daily Wire CEO. I can go on, but to call Nick “marginal” is incorrect esp I when Trent sees it important to put Nick in the thumbnail and talk at length about the controversy he helped stoke
I have no idea if Candace is anti-Semitic or not but Christ is King now and forever.
Amen. ✝️
She’s not, she’s just tired of being threatened for having a different opinion
It's just annoying that we yet again have to have a conversation about Jewish feelings and anti-Semitism when these people have killed 8,000 kids in Gaza. And by the way they are running the American foreign policy so we should be doing videos on that instead of their hurt feelings.
What did Candace say or do that was anti-Semitic That is to say what did she do that proves she hates people due to their DNA?
I would say she did nothing wrong.
dont worry she is not
She is, look how she defended Kanye
If people don't like Catholic values, they should be concerned if Catholics are overrepresented in powerful positions. Same thing if you don't like the values of Mormons, Hindus, Amish, Muslim, or insert any religious belief. If you don't like Jewish values, it's ok to be concerned about how those values are shaping your society (ie sending billions of dollars to fight a war in Gaza), and people should be allowed to have a discussion about it.
…and abortion, porn etc
No it isnt. And if Jews are offended by it, that’s their problem. Christ is King.
watch the video before commenting
Maybe watch the video before commenting?
I can't believe it, these people are unable to watch the complete video, not even the first 5 min
Jews need to stop being sensitive
@@timex1440sp I watched the complete video and I stand by my comment. Christ is king of the universe and the Jews are not.
✋️I will never denounce that Christ is King for the feelings of random jews.
He never told you to. Watch the video, you clearly didn't
@@boss180888the amount of people missing the only point there is to miss is insane 😂
@@arstd196Maybe you missed the point. Bow down and confess Christ is King of kings.
@@boss180888I listened to the whole video and his arguments in favor of Jewish commentators to reject the “Christ is kings” statement was by giving two pathetic examples that DO NOT represent us!!’ Im so disappointed with “The best Catholic apologist”. Maybe he is not too close friend with Cadence or her husband.
@@MichaelAChristian1 i gladly will, not sure why you think i wouldn’t
Christ is King. If Jews have a problem with that, they need to get over it.
Jesus is a Jew. Notice I said “is”
@@The_Catholic_ChristianJesus is God
@@The_Catholic_ChristianGod*, Jesus is God.
Kneel.
Yes, and also 100% human, a Jew
@@redwojak5182 God the Son still has His Jewish Body, albeit glorified. That’s why I said “is” and not was.
The phrase “Christ is King” is anti-Semitic.
Christ is the antithesis (anti) of what the Jews (semites) have in mind when it comes to a messiah. Doesn’t mean the phrase is hateful, it’s just the truth
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."
Using Jesus' name as a weapon against people you hate is committing the above sin.
@@hailiecrowder3634 I don’t hate anyone, sharing the truth of Jesus to the world is important regardless of if people disagree
@@shawn7587 Weaponizing it against a specific group is wrong, and the groypers have done that so effectively that now when people see if they wonder if it is a coded antisemitic statement. This is a horrendous abuse of God's name.
Hail Jesus Nazarene, King of the Jews! The Son of David will forever reign.
Klavan has a gay son that is married to another man. Klaven says that this is not sinful, and he has also recently stated that Paul's teachings can be disregarded if there is any tension with what Jesus said in the Gospels. It's telling that this is not the scandal for the online Christian commentators but rather the fact that other Christians refuse to be silenced by people like Klavan with the profession that "Christ is King".(Basically saying Christ is our moral guide, not you) This is just more evidence that "antisemitism", a meaningless word that has been used to shut Christians up for too long, is the arch-sin that any Christian could ever commit in the minds of most people. Until we fix our moral compasses, we are destined to continue losing the war for the soul of our country.
Klavan is a heretic for asserting that Jesus death on the cross did NOT replace the old tribal Hebrew covenant with the new universal Christian covenant.
100%
I believe some thing are legit anti-semitic, we must still keep some value of this word, but otherwise I agree!
I’m not a trad by any means, but I would love a video explaining why 1,960 years of teachings were disavowed. Especially the when the group being taught against teach explicitly blasphemous things about our Lord and his mother
Assuming that the Church taught that we should do evil against the Jews is quite wrong.
Trent is one of them, by blood.
I stand with Aquinas, Chesterton, and St. John.
Same. ¡VIVA CRISTO REY!
St. John?
I stand with Christ the King!
"This is what I mean. Some of you say, `I belong to Paul.' Others say, `I belong to Apollos.' And others say, `I belong to Cephas'. And yet others say, `I belong to Christ.'
Is Christ divided? Was Paul nailed to the cross for you? No! Were you baptized in Paul's name? No!"
1 Corinthians.
@@thomasbailey921you’re just too dumb to get it, it’s okay just move along you don’t need to understand everything.
The characterization of G.K. Chesterton as antisemitic is completely inaccurate and frankly upsetting. The Chesterton Society has a web page devoted to answering this charge and I would highly encourage you to read it.
I had the same thought. Really sad that he'd misrepresent Chesterton like that.
Trent is of Jewish heritage and while I do not doubt his Catholicism I think he has a certain soft spot for them, and thus make poor attempts of “proving” antisemitism against them by great Catholics Like GK Chesterton.
Trent is Jewish, like Klavan, and in these moments you always see that reality shine through.
I love Chesterton and I would love if it could be shown that he was not antisemitic, but that sites arguments are week
@@iamdigorythey seem pretty compelling. Read the source work, it speaks for itself.
Ben Shapiro literally mocked Christ, when he referenced The Passion 2, by adding a tag line that read. “Passion 2, -Won’t get crossed again-”
and he’s never taken it off his X/Twitter feed.
Yeah, and that’s obviously wrong of him to do. What does this have to do with Trent’s video?
I stopped following him AND watching his daily wire show after that. If I watch any DW show, it's knowles and Walsh only.
@@femaleKCRoyalsFanAt this point those two are complicit in Shapiro's anti Christian agenda, so I would suggest not even watch them.
Try Lauren Chen.
@@littledrummergirl_19 prominent Jews have no problem offending Christian’s with their mockery of Christ. But are ultra sensitive when it comes to someone offending them.
But this is the Christian virtue. The ever reaching hand of grace and forgiveness that is most often mistaken for weakness and many times does divulge into being lukewarm.
@@littledrummergirl_19 Seen this poster all of the place. Probably a jew.
“The dogma lives loudly within you.” Man… we should all aspire to hear that from hostile witnesses.
all jews must convert
Christ is King
everyone should convert
We don't need more "conversos" look how that ended
@@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIEyou should rethink that position
@@johnmorrison3560 I don't trust people who convert from religions that explicitly state that it's a legitimate tactic for jihad or subversion.
@@johnmorrison3560 The fact that every time I mention my opinion it is swiped, probably tells me it's something they don't want people to hear 🙉🙊🙉
After the Reconquista societies within societies were formed.
Facts dont care about feelings: CHRIST IS KING
I love when you claim that Christ is King; just don’t claim that Jesus is G_d!
You can also claim that Trump is King!!! Hope, it makes you feel better! 😂
@landon8214 Catholics also claim that they worship same god as Muslims! 🤣 Claiming something in your own home has zero bearing on me.
I have seen many Christians claim Trump is King! For you, King is more important than G_d! Person is called by the highest title! 🤣 You guys will worship anything that comes along with! If Trump was Catholic you would make him Saint Donald by now🤣
I think I should open up a business “Christ is Carpenter” add phone number, I think it even has good ring to it!
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."
@@litoaykiu Jesus is God
@@hailiecrowder3634 saying Christ is King is blasphemous??? What are you saying ?
I'd very much interested in a conversation between Trent and Fuentes, lets get this happening!
Agreed. That would be the best interview on RUclips. So much misunderstanding and bias could eradicated with that simple conversation
I'll just add Fuentes is Catholic and of traditional kind.
Trent would never agree to something like that.
@@adamsynowiec9864 About as Catholic as the liberals Trent debates
@john-el9636 Adam is giving off shabbos goy vibes, he doesn't sound worthy of debate
“Anti-semitic, it’s a trick, we always use it.” - former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni
I completely disagree with the idea that complaining about the over-representation of a group is bigoted. I would fully expect a non-Catholic to be uneasy by the fact that Catholics are over-represented in the supreme court, I think they would be wrong in this belief, I obviously wouldn't be uneasy because of it, but it is a completely reasonable position to hold for a non-Catholic. the same applies to the over representation of Jews.
Not to mention, the Church itself has issued magisterial injunctions saying that this particular group is not to holy public office over Christians. See Lateran IV, canon 69
Tbf both Catholics and jews are over represented in the Supreme Court lol
So true. Trent is still constrained in the liberal framework when he says this. This doesn't make me mad at Trent, we all have to break out of the post WW2 liberal consensus (the most recent iteration of the City of Man)
It does demonstrate that he is still influenced by modernism which is hardly surprising for a Ratzingerarian/JPII Catholic. To be clear Trent is not the enemy, he just doesn't understand how deep the rabbit hole goes.
This is another reason why we must reject evolutionism. Rejection of Christ the King goes all the way back to Cain and Abel and to Satan in the Garden. When you see these are mere stories of fiction as opposed to history, you don't see that this rejection is utterly ancient and inherited in a real sense. "Jerusalem Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee" "his blood be upon us and our children".
It is right there, if you have eyes to see it.
@@Wagnersuperior Why would you expect non-catholics to be uneasy about it? Part of the process of the Supreme Court is to present arguments and to explain why they voted a certain way. Unless they're saying, "I voted this way because of my Church’s teaching." What is there to worry about?
Was the overturning of RvW due to there being Catholics on the court, or because RvW was a horrible decision that needed to be overturned since there is clearly no right to abortion in the constitution?
Even within religious and racial populations, there are differences. Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are both Catholic, do you think prochoicers would have a problem with judges who think like them were on the Supreme Court? They are Catholic after all.
Look at how politically split Jews are. There are so many that are liberal democrats. What exactly is it about being a Jew that anyone should feel uneasy about them being overrepresented? Do they all think alike? What's the difference from being religiously Jewish, ethnically Jewish and culturally jewish. I've seen many people who clearly fit into each of these and not the others. What is a Jew exactly and what is it about them that makes people so uneasy.
How is your reasoning not a version DEI.
@@anthonysmith3450 whites are the only group that are so deracinated that they can't conceive of the idea that a member of a group would prioritize other members of his group.
Unlike whites in the liberal west, every other group prefers their own. It is this way with jews. Who can blame them? In group preference isn't even a bad thing. I prefer Catholic justices.
You are playing by the rules of your enemies. They laugh at you while they subvert the rules they made. History has shown this to be rule, just go look. Like Trent you are looking at the world through a liberal lens. Divorce yourself completely from that constraint. Like I said, the situation is clear. The grand narrative of the Gospel is still visible today. The forces of Christ the King are at war with the antichrist and his minions. I don't mean it in some conspiratorial way, but you are either with Christ or you are against him.
Viva Cristo Rey ✝️
Eternamente
Ave Christus Rex
Que viva!
Que viva!
Vivaaaaaaaaa
Trent you're wasting everyone's time listing things that aren't antisemitic. So Candice Owens recent interview with that Rabbi shows, it doesn't matter what you think antisemitism is, whatever THEY call antisemitism is antisemitism.. criticism of the nation of Israel falls into that category
Yep I think Trent, just like many others, is completely glossing over the real issue at hand here. There is reason why not just saying "Christ is king" but saying that there is no salvation out side of Christ, the Good Friday prayer for the conversion of the Jews, the passion narrative read on Palm Sunday and other affirmations of the Catholic faith are called "problematic" and "antisemitic" by Jews. By their own definition of antisemitism which was given by the Rabbi that Candace interviewed, those affirmations fall into that category. This discourse inevitably leads to categorizing Catholicism itself as antisemitic.
It has nothing to do with "hate" or "criticism" or Nick Fuentes praising Hitler. That is just a distraction.
And the rabbi was trying to of course have the Monopoly on sorrow trying to get Candice to admit that whatever happened to Israel and the Jews was a "unique evil"
It seems like the people who have a superiority complex is the Jews.
It's precisely because people distort the concept of anti-Semitism that Trent's clarifications are important.
@@ChronoSoul Trent's clarifications don't mean 2 shits to these people. They'll keep call you antisemit no matter how many clarifications you make because that word is nothing more than a weapon
@@SneakyEmu Careful there. Remember, swearing is not only impercise but can also be sinful. Also who is they? Why are you generalizing a group as large as the Jewish people? He clarifies so you can understand his perspective on a set issue. He tries to DEFINE antisemitism to make sure Catholics don't engage in that form of sinful bigotry.
I'll make sure that I use Christ is KING more often
It is not bigoted to say I want my nation to ruled by Catholics. It is not sinful to say that my nation is disproportionately directed by Jews and that their decisions when they gain positions of power are usually very negative. Politically and culturally opposing the collective efforts of a group of people with a different faith, different moral system, and in-group preference that excludes me and the majority of my countrymen is morally justified.
Indeed and Trent here is basically equating the true religion and people who embrace and practice it with any other group from another religion or no religion at all.
Amen brother. The Jewish plague must be combatted how Jesus combatted it. He called them all instruments of Satan. If they don't convert, then indeed they are
this sounds like justifiable politics, the issue pertains to the passive aggressive use of religious phrases, that's not the same.
@@Qwerty-jy9mj I agree with you that Trent spoke correctly about people blaspheming God by using the phrase “Christ is King“; however, Trent overstepped in his definition and explanation of the sin of antisemitism.
You should do a dialogue with Nick Fuentes. It would be a great conversation!
Trent, since you now bring individuals on for a dialog, why not invite Nick Fuentes?
Nick is the worst
Trent has invited literal sodomy apologists on his show.
@@stcolreplover Destiny is also pretty bad with his support of sex work, abortion and LGBT but Trent was up for having a dialog. Bring Nick on and dialog it out so that Nick can better understand why he's wrong.
Fuentes is a clown, he should get help to deal with his disordered attractions first.
@@theurzamachine Number one this would Nuke Trents channel and number two, Nick has shown to be extremely duplicitous and arguing out of bad faith. Lastly, Trent is an apologetics nerd and probably a little too liberal to argue with a reactionary. Probably better to debate another dissident right figure who disagrees like the Distributist.
I hope you will discuss this with Nick in a long-form episode, thanks.
I'll side with Aquinas, Chrysostom, Chesterton, and Belloc and the Magisterium over Trent any day!
💯
"A doctor of the Church endorsing an injustice against a certain group of people, does not make those acts just." Trent gets it right on this one.
@@simeonwaiaHow do you know those were injustices?
@@Aryanne_v2 perpetual servitude and taking their property simply because they are jews is not injustice? You'll have to unpack that one for me, because the same type of logic was used to justify enslavement of black people in the US.
@@Aryanne_v2perpetual servitude and taking their property simply because they are jews is not injustice? You'll have to unpack that one, because that kind of thinking has led to horrific things.
Can Jews not be criticized? Why not?
Are you stupid? He never once said we can’t criticize them
It's sad how we can't criticize anyone nowadays! If we criticize gays, we're called homophobic, if we criticize hamas, we're called Islamophobic, and that too. :/
Is Thessalonians anti-Semitic now?
“for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.”
St. Paul is not speaking of the Jewish ethnic group in its entirety. He's speaking of the religious leaders of the Pharisees and Sanhedrin, you know, the ones actually leading the persecution. It doesn't take much thought to realize this.
@@jonahstephens2904 It really doesn't matter. Jews as a group still find this offensive even if St Paul wasn't targeting the entire group.
@@jonahstephens2904 Obviously he did not mean all jews because Saint Paul was a Jew. That is not the point.
@@jonahstephens2904 In other words, the penetrative Judaism at society’s highest reaches. The same critique that we wield against this Jewish aristocracy. What is the obfuscation?
@@jonahstephens2904You do realize it makes it so much worse if the religious leaders are the ones leading the charge to murder the messiah, right?
It is antisemitic in the sense that the idea of Christ being King is contradictory to rabbinic jewish tradions and secular jews.
Lol that's not antisemitism though, just Theology
I mean, that is a point, it's definitely a point. But, that means the definition of anti-semitic is way broader than it is said to be. This reminds me of how gay people call everyone homophobic for simply not agreeing with them, I worry that anti-semitic will end up being the conservative version of homophobic.
Christ is King!
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."
When you don't have a definition, everything is anti-Semitic, even when a statement is not intrinsically derogatory.
Did you watch the video? Trent gives a useful check for whether or not something is truly antisemitic.
@@evanc.1591exactly
@@evanc.1591
Yes, I did. That is why I said something not intrinsically derogatory. Something that is not truly anti-semitic is not intrinsically derogatory.
Trent also gave examples of how something is not truly anti-semitic but is labeled that way. That is why I said everything is anti-semitic even though it is not intrinsically derogatory.
Do you know the definition of intrinsic?
"Hostility to or prejudice against Jewish people."
It's pretty simple.
@@RacingSnails64
What is considered hostile and prejudiced against Jews? As of now, it seems like anything that hurts someone's feelings is considered hostile and prejudiced.
Trent Horn was labeled anti-semitic for analogizing abortion to the Holocaust. Was he hostile and prejudiced against Jewish people when he made that analogy?
I teach at a Christian school in Oklahoma. At the top center of my front wall is a little plaque that says simply "Jesus is Lord" and it ain't comin' down
That’s a perfectly fine usage of the phrase. I see no issue with that at all
That's great! It's not like you are not using the term to denigrate anyone like other people do.
@@timex1440spIt is a denigration of non-Christians.
@@johnnotrealname8168 It could be, depending on context. That's why I believe the purpose for this video is for us Christians to be aware and not discriminate against any non-Cristian group. Have a blessed day ❤️
@@timex1440spDepends on what you are discriminating. I do agree that, ideally, a Christian society should have no non-Christians in her leadership.
Governments come and go, Christ reigns as King forever. Christ is King!
Christ is King, and I dont give a darn about what jews think about it.
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."
"The Lord Jesus is Messiah and King."
That statement is pro-human and not anti-anything.
Bro we dont care about anti-semitism. Christ is King.
I care deeply about fighting antisemitism, because Christ (a Jewish man) is king.
@@iamdigoryThey rejected him and killed him. Jesus is God.
Did you even watch this video? He explains why we SHOULD care about anti-semitism and how it is sinful.
@@dr.danburritoman1293two things can be true at the same time. It is true that antisemitism is sinful and it is also true that normal people are tired of hearing about antisemitism and the Js persecution complex.
That’s right! Christ is King!✝️
65% of Americans are Christian, 2% are jewish....so who should be in charge of this country? ✝
Would it be okay if countries that are not majority christian used the same exact logic to persecute christians?
That's exactly right. You think Israel will ever elect the Catholic president or prime minister? Never in a million years.
??? that's not a good argument
The Church also teaches at Lateran IV , canon 69, they they should not hold public office in Christian nations
@@Qwerty-jy9mjwhy is it not good? Who said christians should be lead by nonchristians, check Ukraine, their president banned the orthodox church and sends cops to beat up priests.
Men back in the day called it how they saw it. They just spoke the truth. But we can’t “offend” anyone today. Dumb
Trent: "Nick is 100% right, but then he makes a joke about Hitler, so his praise of Our Lord Jesus Christ is wrong."
wtf?!?
The joke about Hitler was quite bad, actually, and, frankly, it’s pretty obvious that the man likes Hitler unironically which is quite bad.
Because they weren't jokes. Fuentes actually idolizes Hitler. If he didn't, why does he talk about him so much with a big smile on his face? He knows he's being inflammatory and transgressive.
"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’"
Horn knows that if Nick's jokes evoked Stalin, then he would be fine and there would be no controversy. There is a reason Horn is sensitive to one and not the other, and it's not because of anything the Bible says. He has been catechized by a sick and demented culture.
@@robertdolcetti450lots of us like him, more everyday
@@RacingSnails64 That still wouldn't make Nick wrong regarding saying, "Christ is King."
"idolize"
bruh...
Fuentes also criticizes Hitler, too.
I wonder how seriously Trent takes the positions of St. Thomas Aquinas and G.K. Chesterton.
or any other Church Father, for that matter
By some of these standards, the Old Testament prophets are anti-Semitic.
“The truth will set you free”. Are we really free if we’re afraid to say out loud pertaining to certain truths of the world?
You are adding too much nuance to a weapon of the left that is as subtle as a brick to the face.
”But that doesn’t matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice.“
Philippians 1:18 NLT
Christ is King! If someone thinks that fact is offensive, that's their problem.
Trent, why do you assume that the "cultural norms" under which prior theologians, doctors & saints of the church operated were wrong, and that our current cultural norms are right? If anything, I think it's safer to assume that our cultural norms today are further away from Christ's teachings than in the time of Aquinas, etc.
He’s displaying some relativistic modernist tendencies in his logic, along with his ethnic bias.
If I am not misunderstanding you and you are implicitly asserting that the only possible conclusion is either “all new cultural norms are wrong” or “all new cultural norms are right”, then I believe you are asserting a false dichotomy. Because older and newer generations are both made of fallible people, plus the factors making up a cultural mindset are complex and not binary, it is possible for newer/older cultures to each have different areas where their norms are more right compared to the others’.
@@markcobuzzi826 My assertion is that generally our cultural norms of today have drifted further from Christianity than the cultural norms of the past. So, with that general assertion in mind, I think we should be skeptical of all cultural norms of today even if it's true that my general assertion does not mean that "all new cultural norms are wrong". My point is that all new cultural norms have a good likelihood of being wrong, so we should be skeptical of them. The cultural norm specifically in question here revolves around the critique of groups. Today's cultural norm seems to be that the only group allowed to be critiqued, as a group, is White Christians. All other people must only be critiqued as individuals, and not as part of a group, which is why we see Trent Horn and many others come to the defense of Jews when they are critiqued as a group. This is in contrast to prior cultural norms in which no group was exempt from critique, including Jews.
Bingo
Simple question. Do you endorse the taking of property from Jewish people simply because they are Jewish or forcing them into perpetual servitude? Because that is the statement that your comment is defending.
Bro said Chesterton was “anti-semetic” yikes bro…yikes
Made me cringe, Chesterton is in heaven reigning with Our Lady Queen of heaven, and Jesus the King.
Gilbert the nicest chap since Father Christmas
@@IcyHOTCatholicThere is no queen of Heaven. That's paganism. There's only King Jesus in heaven.
@@archangel3231 Jesus is King, Mary is queen. Cry about it prot, your theology is man-made.
@@archangel3231 You clearly don't understand historical Israelite traditions.
I don't want to be antisemitic. What is antisemitic? The Catholic Church condemns all forms of antisemitism, so it MUST be a sin. But what is antisemitism? Is it sinful to criticize a Jewish person? Or even a Jewish law, custom, tradition, ... governmental policy of the State of Israel? If it is, did Jesus Christ commit this sin? He was for sure critical of some Pharisees, scribes, and a bunch of Jewish people. LORD have mercy, I hope we are not implying this.
Racial hatred is wrong. The Church should condemn it, but it should never make carve outs for specific groups. Why so much ink spilled and hands wrung regarding antisemitism but nothing regarding antisinoism?
Since Israel is very pro immigration for the US, why is it “antisemitism” for me to say that Israel should do the same?
What’s interesting is that yesterday, I dug into the “controversy” and I started watching Nick Fuentes and found myself agreeing with most of the things he says. Christ is King!
And we now see that Trent deceitfully edited from Nick Fuentes.
@@ryrocks9487 I agree, while I do think he jokes brashly, he 100% condemns hitler in multiple streams and says that he literally does not hate J, doesn’t want to kill them, etc.
@@hap1678 Yeah, Trent did some sloppy work here, and it’s looking vindictive and dishonest.
What are you smoking ?
@@salomevsn3724 I don’t think he’s smoking, I think he, like others is seeing the dishonesty of Trent Horn and being attracted to the people he lies about.
Short answer: No
Long answer: Jesus Christ is king of kings, and Lord of Lords
Actual short answer: no
Actual developed answer: the phrase itself is not inherently bad, but the people who use it in a manner that carries the lords name in vain, have a tendency to use the phrase while pairing it with other antisemitic statements.
"Blood libel" isn't true..? Explain Simon of Trent please...
So many countries so many legitimate legal trials and the same outcome. And they call us conspiracy theorists for believing them...
It was antisemitic blood libel. The Church has said so when they halted his canonization process.
@@Desert-Father It went through legal trials multiple times, but whatever. Modern historians will always side with jews, no investigation is needed. You are right about him not being canonized but nobody here claimed he is.
@@Desert-Father I bet you think Leo Frank was innocent too
@@TheNemkris I'm simply repeating the teaching of the Church in its suppression of the cult.
Read the Talmud friends.
not looking good. :(
Read Matthew about loving your neighbor and treating him like you want to be treated. Christ forgave and died for all. And all that pray "forgive us our trespasses and we forgive those who trespass against us" should not be holding grudges or preaching hate against an entire group of people.
@@Desert-Father It’s not friend it’s just a warning to evangelical and other groups of Christian’s with judaizer tendencies such as dispensationalism. And also those who call themselves Christian yet are diehard supporters of Israel. It’s important they know how the average religious Jewish person views us Christian’s. It’s like reading the Quran to understand why Christian’s are treated how they are in Islamic countries.
@@deacon6221 It's important for you to know what the Church teaches about dialogue with Jewish people. You seem to need some instruction.
"The Church, therefore, exhorts her sons, that through dialogue and collaboration with the followers of other religions, carried out with prudence and love and in witness to the Christian faith and life, they recognize, preserve and promote the good things, spiritual and moral, as well as the socio-cultural values found among these men." Nostra aetate, paragraph 2. As regarding dialogue with Jews specifically the Church teaches, "Since the spiritual patrimony common to Christians and Jews is thus so great, this sacred synod wants to foster and recommend that mutual understanding and respect which is the fruit, above all, of biblical and theological studies as well as of fraternal dialogues." Nostra aetate, paragraph 4. The Church also teaches, "although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ. Furthermore, in her rejection of every persecution against any man, the Church, mindful of the patrimony she shares with the Jews and moved not by political reasons but by the Gospel's spiritual love, decries hatred, persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism, directed against Jews at any time and by anyone. Besides, as the Church has always held and holds now, Christ underwent His passion and death freely, because of the sins of men and out of infinite love, in order that all may reach salvation. It is, therefore, the burden of the Church's preaching to proclaim the cross of Christ as the sign of God's all-embracing love and as the fountain from which every grace flows." Nostra aetate, paragraph 4.
>Catholicism is true
>truth ought to be spread
>opposite for judiasm
>bwam the entire "image if it was reversed" thing rebutted quite simply
Pray for all the jews to return to Christ, look how astray they have gotten, to now being the attack dogs to any dissenting voice that ever questions what is clearly in opposition to peace, humanity, and God.
Every knee will bend to the one true king.
have you tried reading the bible before
God bless all who believe
JESUS CHRIST IS GOD
⚔️ ☦️❤✝️⚔️.
CHRISTIANS its time to push back against all enemies of Christ on all platforms.
a conversation between Nick Fuentes and Trent Horn would be great
What do you do with Saint Louis IX who had explicit instructions to his son to never hire Jews in power, and died shortly after that. Was he guilty of the serious sin of antisemitism?
I doubt any of these people that the Church confirms are in heaven repented of the "serious sin of anti-semitism". So it can't really be a "serious sin" can it?
Very wise decision by the wise saint king
The Church did not condemn antisemitism until Vatican II so why would we condemn someone who lived in the 13th century for that?
I think with all the recent "pushback" against Catholics having an equally strong pushback is warranted
JESUS CHRIST IS KING AND WILL BE KING FOREVER
As a catholic you should always be wary anyone in a position of authority or influence who isn't catholic (aka Christian). This isn't up for discussion. Never suffer a non-believer to wield power over you.
“The Jews fell from their heights because of their faithlessness and condemned their Redeemer to a shameful death. This godlessness has assumed such forms that, for the salvation of our own people, it becomes necessary to prevent their influence” - Pope St Pius V, Hebraeorum gens
"Salvation is from the Jews." -Jesus to the Samaritan woman in John 4.
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, nor male nor female, for all are one in Christ Jesus." -Apostle Paul in Galations 3.
@@RacingSnails64IN Jesus Christ. The Jews are not IN Jesus, but actively reject him.
@@RacingSnails64 Salvation already came from the jews, Jesus. Modern jews only need to be saved like everyone else. As to positions of authority, there were these converted French Jews twins, Cohen brothers who wrote that jews couldnt hold the position of judges because they dont have the Holy Spirit. This is self evident for nations where the Faith is alive. For our current nations obviously such a notion is preposterous. Then you have jewesses pushing abortion as supreme judges on christian nations.
@@RacingSnails64 John 4 meant Christ and his apostles with their new Jewish followers who adopted Christianity (the fulfillment of OT Judaism) and spread the good news to the world.
That's what that means. The Catechism and Church teachings are supremely clear on this. To counter signal is to miss the point entirely. Organized Talmudic Jewry (who hate Christ) is ruining the world, and only blind uneducated people can contest that fact.
I am extremely disappointed in all you Catholics who are not doing through research on this topic. A prominent political figure who was the political advisor of Kanye, who calls himself a Catholic and constantly jokes about killing Jews, started using the term "Christ is King" against Jews. Candace was closely aligned with Kanye who said he was going "death con 3 on (ethnic) Jews" and people are criticizing her for using it in the way she did, given her associations. People who do not understand this should do more research and stop painting Catholicism in such a harmful light. Imagine what Christian Jews must be feeling now. Gaslighting someone for concerns about people misusing Christianity for racial pursuits is justified. The Nazis did it and sadly many Christians and Catholics were complicit. Do not be complicit now.