@@rogerrendzak8055 Look at the trees. Now, go look at pictures of the ship. She's one huge sail. The wind had her and wasn't letting go without a fight.
I thought the same thing you can see the trees blowing you knew what was gonna happen! I lived here knew everything about BOW THRUSTERS being “out of lined.” I guess after he assessed the ship damage he went and relived the ships captain!
OK, I'll play armchair captain, why did he not halt the maneuver when I'm sure all his computers were telling him the wind is way too high to perform the maneuver? I mean, the wind had to be gusting to 40 to nullify the bow and stern thrusters! Why not just say, "we're going to give it 30 minutes and reevaluate the wind speed."
I had a 55' houseboat on Lake Powell back in 2000..... wind pushed us around so darn much we could almost never get back on our bouy after noon,...the winds were a disaster........ I know for sure this Capt. is UNHAPPY about this .
The Skipper has let Gilligan into the wheelhouse. Worse, he’s let him have another attempt at driving. Even the Professor could have come up with a better plan than scraping along the dock. If tugs were unavailable or not requested for some reason, surely the Skipper should have overruled Gilligan and either stayed put or used a spring line from up near the bow tied back to the dock near amidship and driven against the spring line with full left rudder, port screw going astern and the starboard screw going ahead plus the stern thruster powering towards port in order to pivot the stern out away from the dock against the wind pressure so that the stern would swing until it was pointing into the wind, then all stop, rudder amidships, both screws astern and the spring line released as the ship glides elegantly back away from the dock. And if that didn’t look like working, tie up again and wait for tugs or the weather to ease. The safety of the ship should NEVER be put at risk for the sake of keeping to a timetable or for false pride on the part of the skipper. That was just poor seamanship that we saw there.
Went into Montego Bay one time and the ship could not get into the dock because of the wind. Eventually the crew got lines to the dock and winched the ship in. No problem leaving for sure!
Small world. Around 1980 I crewed on a classic cruise ship (M/S Sagafjord, built 1965) that docked at pier 21 for Caribbean cruises. I've been across that pier countless times. It's on my bucket list to go there once more.
I was standing just a few feet further aft from where this was filmed. We literally tore one of the bumbers off of the pier. I was afraid this would delay our departure like when the Ruby hit the pier in San Diego a few months earlier.
I was onboard this cruise as we left Port Everglades (Ft Lauderdale). After this incident we had tugs in the ports available when leaving the dock. There was no word from the Captain about what happened. The cruise line changed the captains halfway through the cruise. I have cruised 46 times and this is the second time I have seen this happen (the other was on a RC ship). Both times the captains were changed before the end of the cruise. I noticed Ruby Princess definitely needed some maintenance (black marks and rust starting to show on the hull) when I boarded the ship. The crew was cleaning and touching up the hull when we stopped at the next port.
Thanks for the extra info John! If I recall correctly, I think it was announced before we even left the pier on day 1 that this was the very first cruise back for the initial captain (I'm not sure if he was on leave previously or captaining a different ship); however, I was unaware that we changed captains mid-cruise, although it doesn't surprise me after this happened right out of the gate. We met Mario at the Captain's Circle event close to the end of the cruise, I'm guessing he was the replacement. To me, he seemed like he had a good head on his shoulders, but doing public relations events is a very different role than safely manuvering a large ship. I have a lot of respect for captains that are good at doing both.
Love the Mr. Know-It-All commentary talking just loud enough in hopes for attention and awe by his expert nautical knowledge. People next to him were all thinking “Just shut the F up!”
Cruise ships trying to save on money again! Cap and pilot should have tugged the ship up either end to pull her off the wall.. it’s obvious it’s blowing hard against her port side and the bow thrusters just aren’t man enough with the gusts.. you only need to look at the trees to see it’s blowing a bastard and that’s in the lee off the ship! The fenders are trelex fenders and are really too small for the weight of this ship… I’m amazed they kept trying rather than landing her back on the wall and putting lines out again to either let the wind drop off or get some tugs connected.
I don't think I would be leaning on the rails if the ship was hitting the dock a couple of times. I especially wouldn't want my children leaning on the rails.
We’ve been on a number of Princess cruises before COVID. It’s sad to see the condition of the Ruby Princess. There’s a lot of rust and flaking pain showing in that video. My guess is that they’re still recovering from the losses and some cosmetic maintenance has been lacking.
I was on this ship a couple of months ago and also several years ago. I was not disappointed with the ship or the staff. Ship was beautiful , trip was fantastic. I felt very comfortable with the professionalism and greatness of Princess Cruises. Can’t wait to return!
Multiple red flags, popping up here!! I'd be the anal one, and start pointing out very loudly, that the bridge crew didn't know, what the hell, they were doing. And further mistakes, could happen (gotta stir up, the passengers imagination). And/or, go up to the bridge, and let them know, personally. This was out of Port Everglades, Miami. Correct🤔???
Hey Bash, do you have an email address we can use to contact you regarding this video? I'd love to discuss a license to use this if possible! Cheers, Felix
@@rogerrendzak8055 I am glad you did reply. It validates my thoughts. Besides, many other comments also say he is a backseat driver. So your reply is really irrelevant.
Onsetting winds are extremely challenging. They should have called for tugs instead of putting the ship in jeopardy
In high winds, tugs should be mandatory. That ship is one big sail.
Winds couldn't of been, too high though. Look at the water, as there's hardly any waves.
@@rogerrendzak8055 Look at the trees.
Now, go look at pictures of the ship. She's one huge sail. The wind had her and wasn't letting go without a fight.
Apparently, the side thrusters couldn't keep up?@@tstahler5420
Loved the backseat driving commentary LOL
found him and his commentary annoying. Sounds like one of those know-it-all types. I couldn't even finish watching it.
Surprised the ship even left with winds that high.
MIstake #1
Winds couldn't of been, too high. Just look at, the lack of waves.
@@rogerrendzak8055 The ship itself acts like a large sail doesn't take much to blow them off course or back into the pier..
love all the experts!! hope all is ok!
I love the guy saying it's not the wind I'm like Jesus Christ what fucking planet are you on
I thought the same thing you can see the trees blowing you knew what was gonna happen! I lived here knew everything about BOW THRUSTERS being “out of lined.” I guess after he assessed the ship damage he went and relived the ships captain!
Thank you fir sharing this scene here on this cruise.😊
OK, I'll play armchair captain, why did he not halt the maneuver when I'm sure all his computers were telling him the wind is way too high to perform the maneuver? I mean, the wind had to be gusting to 40 to nullify the bow and stern thrusters! Why not just say, "we're going to give it 30 minutes and reevaluate the wind speed."
My thoughts exactly.
Think, the greedy asshole way. 'Time is 💵'!!!!
The Ruby Princess has the worst luck at docking. Hit the Pier in San Francisco last year and punched a hole in the rear side of the ship
I had a 55' houseboat on Lake Powell back in 2000..... wind pushed us around so darn much we could almost never get back on our bouy after noon,...the winds were a disaster........ I know for sure this Capt. is UNHAPPY about this .
A 3 hour tour , a 3 hour tour ...
The Skipper has let Gilligan into the wheelhouse. Worse, he’s let him have another attempt at driving. Even the Professor could have come up with a better plan than scraping along the dock.
If tugs were unavailable or not requested for some reason, surely the Skipper should have overruled Gilligan and either stayed put or used a spring line from up near the bow tied back to the dock near amidship and driven against the spring line with full left rudder, port screw going astern and the starboard screw going ahead plus the stern thruster powering towards port in order to pivot the stern out away from the dock against the wind pressure so that the stern would swing until it was pointing into the wind, then all stop, rudder amidships, both screws astern and the spring line released as the ship glides elegantly back away from the dock. And if that didn’t look like working, tie up again and wait for tugs or the weather to ease.
The safety of the ship should NEVER be put at risk for the sake of keeping to a timetable or for false pride on the part of the skipper. That was just poor seamanship that we saw there.
The captain was too cheap to call in a tug to help with the stern or bow.
Went into Montego Bay one time and the ship could not get into the dock because of the wind. Eventually the crew got lines to the dock and winched the ship in. No problem leaving for sure!
Hey, i met you onboard, just as we cleared the pier. You told me you had a recording. Nailed it. I hope you enjoyed your cruise as much as we did.
Hope the ship didn't suffer any damage. We are scheduled for next month.
They saved money not calling tugs.
poor bridge staff competence, lack of planning, poor company safety management. money & schedule first! idiotic incident could be easily avoided. shame...
Wind has ship pinned against the pier
So glad to see that the passengers remained calm. 😊
They're braindead.
Small world. Around 1980 I crewed on a classic cruise ship (M/S Sagafjord, built 1965) that docked at pier 21 for Caribbean cruises. I've been across that pier countless times. It's on my bucket list to go there once more.
I was standing just a few feet further aft from where this was filmed. We literally tore one of the bumbers off of the pier. I was afraid this would delay our departure like when the Ruby hit the pier in San Diego a few months earlier.
was there any damage to the ship? I'm on her in April
I was on the Ruby when it hit the San Francisco pier, extensive damage that time. The ship seems to like bumping piers.
I was onboard this cruise as we left Port Everglades (Ft Lauderdale). After this incident we had tugs in the ports available when leaving the dock. There was no word from the Captain about what happened. The cruise line changed the captains halfway through the cruise. I have cruised 46 times and this is the second time I have seen this happen (the other was on a RC ship). Both times the captains were changed before the end of the cruise. I noticed Ruby Princess definitely needed some maintenance (black marks and rust starting to show on the hull) when I boarded the ship. The crew was cleaning and touching up the hull when we stopped at the next port.
Thanks for the extra info John! If I recall correctly, I think it was announced before we even left the pier on day 1 that this was the very first cruise back for the initial captain (I'm not sure if he was on leave previously or captaining a different ship); however, I was unaware that we changed captains mid-cruise, although it doesn't surprise me after this happened right out of the gate. We met Mario at the Captain's Circle event close to the end of the cruise, I'm guessing he was the replacement. To me, he seemed like he had a good head on his shoulders, but doing public relations events is a very different role than safely manuvering a large ship. I have a lot of respect for captains that are good at doing both.
Love the Mr. Know-It-All commentary talking just loud enough in hopes for attention and awe by his expert nautical knowledge. People next to him were all thinking “Just shut the F up!”
It is the wind pushing the ship into the pier. That is what he is doing fighting the wind.
Wow, even at full blast those bow thrusters couldn't match the force of the wind. The bumpers are made to withstand a hit but not a grind. 😬
I don't understand why there are no dock or port personnel there on the dock. I don't see anyone at all. They hit like that, it should be inspected.
I bet the captain got chewed out for that one.
What ship was that?
my bad ITS says ruby in the titile.
The 'Ruby Princess'.
Cruise ships trying to save on money again! Cap and pilot should have tugged the ship up either end to pull her off the wall.. it’s obvious it’s blowing hard against her port side and the bow thrusters just aren’t man enough with the gusts.. you only need to look at the trees to see it’s blowing a bastard and that’s in the lee off the ship!
The fenders are trelex fenders and are really too small for the weight of this ship… I’m amazed they kept trying rather than landing her back on the wall and putting lines out again to either let the wind drop off or get some tugs connected.
What a heck the captain is thinking? That ship is huge sail.
Not easy , strong crosswind 🚢 💨
The touchy-feely method of docking
Holy crap, that wind is brutal.
Would have thought a tug would have been on standby…
It would probably be pulling from the other site
That costs money
Winds that high,should have tug assist.
The cost of a tug or 2. Would easily be less than the repair of the shore fenders and possibly damage to the ship
@@craigb2370 you are just seeing the cost ship and the dock,what about the lost revenue of all the passengers?
I don't think I would be leaning on the rails if the ship was hitting the dock a couple of times. I especially wouldn't want my children leaning on the rails.
We’ve been on a number of Princess cruises before COVID. It’s sad to see the condition of the Ruby Princess. There’s a lot of rust and flaking pain showing in that video. My guess is that they’re still recovering from the losses and some cosmetic maintenance has been lacking.
I was on this ship a couple of months ago and also several years ago. I was not disappointed with the ship or the staff. Ship was beautiful , trip was fantastic. I felt very comfortable with the professionalism and greatness of Princess Cruises. Can’t wait to return!
Did they not even do a visual inspection???
I was on this cruise starting on 2/18/24.
LOL you said the winds weren't bad. You know how tall a cruise ship is???
Wow! You can see the patters on the water of a microburst!
Those bow thrusters are really trying to push the boat away from the dock
Was it yesterday in florida? Oh wow! It was winding alot yesterday
A bit of rust here and there on this ship.
All ships have rust. Steel and salt water means rust.
Anyone else leaning to the right of their chair as if that'll give you a better view?
Multiple red flags, popping up here!! I'd be the anal one, and start pointing out very loudly, that the bridge crew didn't know, what the hell, they were doing. And further mistakes, could happen (gotta stir up, the passengers imagination). And/or, go up to the bridge, and let them know, personally.
This was out of Port Everglades, Miami. Correct🤔???
Wow, the paint sure looks bad after just being refurbished late last year.
Attention passengers proceed to your muster station
Where was this?
Looks like, Port Everglades, Miami.
Too cheap to get a tug!
That rust bucket needs some body work and new paint... maybe this will make them fix it up a little.
YOU TELL THEM,, """ CAPTAIN """.....
Hey Bash, do you have an email address we can use to contact you regarding this video? I'd love to discuss a license to use this if possible! Cheers, Felix
Tug in that weather? Funny how people know better than the bridge crew
Oh man, what a way to start. Hopefully you all had a wonderful time and this just became a distant memory
Ouch! That did not sound good!
Capt should have known better. And why are some idiots laughing?
Where’s the pier personnel throughout this?
As far away as possible - would you stand on this pier?
Why didn’t they get tug assist
I am sure that was the last cruise for that captain
Wish Cruise Lines
Looks like a hit and run call the police.
So what get a drink and stop the big disaster movie
The best part of Mr knowitall's boat trip.
You sound, strangely jealous🤔.
@@rogerrendzak8055 No, but thanks. Did my comment trigger you so much?
@@ernesthimself Remember, your response was 1st. I wouldn't of commented, if that wasn't there.
@@rogerrendzak8055 I am glad you did reply. It validates my thoughts. Besides, many other comments also say he is a backseat driver. So your reply is really irrelevant.
Must be a Carnival ship, they are the worst! I travel with Celebrity/ Royal Caribbean , seem better
This was the Ruby Princess
Owned by Carnival, terrible Captains@@markhubbs1964
"Hey I have no idea what's going on". But I'll comment anyways. It is called wind is pushing.