A whole powerpoint slide for Red Slaver and you don't mention the most important thing! After he uses entangle, his net disappears! No gameplay effect (besides being a clue that he can't entangle again), but I just love little touches like that.
@@Jorbs Haha reminds me of people putting x thousand hours into League and still knowing champion abilities by keypress rather than name. It truly be a Melvin over Vorthos world.
FWIW, I love these. I am have unlocked A20 for all characters, but I have only managed to beat the heart on A20 with Ironclad. I feel like I have so much left to learn and these are amazing. I learn something every time. Please do more.
This series has been immensely helpful! I have over 800 hours in spire and am still learning new things. I've been trying recently to get a 4 rotating streak just for fun, and was having trouble. After the first few of these vids I was able to get a 3 streak, so it's definitely helping! Keep them coming if you're planning on making more!
It's definitely possible to get greedy or have nothing but terrible luck at low ascension. I'm doing the same thing as Jorbs (my main is up to A20 on all characters) and am up to A5 and have died three times. First two I tried to be make questionable things work and got punished. Last was Defect and played aggressively as possible and never got a single focus or anything useful and died to Act 3 boss.
Truly loving this series. Enjoying watching you make slightly different decks than a20, giggling when you find something you actually didn't know about the game (or have forgotten over the past 3 years), and giving out great insight on the workings of the various aspects
Hey Jorbs, just wanted to thank you for putting a lot of effort into these vids. Just the a0 vids have already changed my mindset so much and helped me realise my mistakes and improve at the game way more. As a matter of fact, I've beaten my first a20 run, playong as ironclad! Forgot the red key, though, haha. Once again thanks a lot, and I'm really looking forward towards more episodes of this series!
Ngl having just a solid rundown of the kind of things it’s useful to be thinking about for Gremlin leader will probably have me watching the beginning of the video quite a few times. Great stuff loving this series
This series makes me so happy. I rarely just sit still while watching a youtube video but I dont want to miss anything here. Your knowledge on this game is incredible and your teaching style is very chill.
Same. I just enjoy them much more than the normal Twitch recordings, even if before I felt like I'd intuited most of Jorbs' opinions from the hundreds of other videos I'd watched. Not only was I occasionally wrong or missing the point, but it's a much chiller way to experience it from his perspective.
I figured out what you're UP TO with these videos, Jorbs. You want everyone to be able to beat Ascension 20 so the devs can make it more challenging for you. Well it won't work; we're too stupid. But it's a great effort, so far.
understanding the map generation algorithm in principle lets you get an idea for the distribution of pathing flexibility you have in future acts, right? like, in principle it could pay some dividends but in practice probably nobody is good enough to gain anything meaningful from it?
i've looked at some of the probabilities of different types of paths before, in particular when comparing paths which go to super elite to paths which don't to evaluate the value of getting the super elite done in an earlier act. i ended up deciding that being forced into a super elite tended to lower the value of your path by 0.5-1.0 elites-ish, and make it more dangerous if you didn't have a sustain relic. i'm not sure i've ever actually used that information for anything though xD.
Still enjoying these! We get great nuggets of wisdom like "I don't have to only be dealing damage with catalyst and have that be the only strong thing the deck can do" and "turn one is the first turn of every fight".
This run could've taken prismatic shard from the act 4 shop for its main point of actual utility: giving a chance to get a focus debuff vs the act 4 elites. Anything won in this act 4, probably, but it was the rare possibly 'correct' shard and I think that's neat.
Can I just say, played the game for something like 70 hours, had maybe 4 TOTAL runs where I beat act three boss. One with each of the main characters and one with ironclad on A1. After watching the FIRST episode of this series, I was able to get a true ending finish with ironclad on A0 on my fourth run. Cleared the silent soon after and am only a couple of runs into figuring out the defect. As a casual player this helped me sooooo much!
NGL, I'm (probably) a seasoned STS player, about 200 hours, got to A20 with everyone minus Watcher because I hate watcher... but I'm still learning stuff somehow. Jorbs is truly a great player
I only just started playing earlier this week, but holy shit this game is really fun. When I first started, I could barely make it through act two; those three slavers are a bitch of a fight!Anyway, one I got a “successful?” run with each character, I started looking up videos for newcomer advice, and that brings me to the point. These videos are actually amazing, and have really helped me understand the importance of a small deck size. It never occurred to me that removing the starter cards were so impactful, but that tip alone has added so much value to my runs. I also “fell into the trap” of trying to build deck archetypes, rather than seeing what my deck currently needs. It’s like playing draft formats in MTG, but you have to play the deck as you build it! Anyhow, I just listened to the intro at the start, and wanted to comment that your intent on this series helping newcomers has been achieved!
Its amazing how even very small details in this game can become extremely relevant. I have 300 hours (still stuck on beating a20 heart with silent) and never knew gremlin leader couldnt do the same action twice in a row. That changes the fight... a lot
I've been playing the game for ages and even if I only hang out at a20 aiming for the heart every time (and beating it every now and then), I consider myself rather casual. Seeing the elites' AI breakdown just confirmed it. I believe that only learning the percentages and patterns of slavers/leader would bump my winrate by 10%. Incredible. My brain is melting now.
Surviving slavers is no small task for sure! I've thought I had them no problem more than once with great decks especially the small decks. Other elites beat you for having too many cards. Now I dread every time the slavers come up.
When you talked about the fight you should most use potions how far behind is reptomancer behind the heart and slavers? Reptomancer does what the slavers do only more punishing
I just wanted to say myself and my fiancé really enjoyed this video, as she’s just starting to learn silent and wanted to see how the cards could fit together. It woulda been really cool if you could take stuff like sacred bark in these lower ascension runs too because you’re already above what you need to win the run too! :)
One thing about Wraith Form is that for newer players it might actually not be as good of a card. Usually newer players build slower decks that often have trouble actually beating enemies in reasonable time. I think many beginner decks actually can't utilize Wraith Form well enough to actually pick the card a lot.
Agree 100%. Wraith Form wants you to have built a deck which can efficiently spend its energy and card draw on damage every turn, and that isn't actually a very easy thing to do.
Love your new tutorial series. Love your normal playthrough as well. Slay the spire is an exceptional game and you are an exceptional stream. Keep it up.
hey jorbs, i recently started watching your early runs, just when 1.0 was realesed, and I didn't think that I could respect you as an authority anymore but the fact you won as the silent back then made me respect you even more
I've been loving these. It's a very practical discussion for someone who's got a lot of hours, and a lot of runs, but only just now try to ascend beyond ascension 1. 38:35 But my guy, you missed your happy flower pogging your setup for skewer.... you're lucky is just happy regardless of how you treat it, haha
I'm just starting out this game and I'd love to see more of these! I know they're more high effort now you're preparing full presentations for each one, but I would definitely appreciate more educational content with or without the theory lesson at the start. Keep up the good work!
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A whole powerpoint slide for Red Slaver and you don't mention the most important thing! After he uses entangle, his net disappears! No gameplay effect (besides being a clue that he can't entangle again), but I just love little touches like that.
um.... i have played the game for 7000 hours or something and didn't know this!!!
You taught the master something, congratulations
@@Jorbs Haha reminds me of people putting x thousand hours into League and still knowing champion abilities by keypress rather than name.
It truly be a Melvin over Vorthos world.
FWIW, I love these. I am have unlocked A20 for all characters, but I have only managed to beat the heart on A20 with Ironclad. I feel like I have so much left to learn and these are amazing. I learn something every time. Please do more.
This series has been immensely helpful! I have over 800 hours in spire and am still learning new things. I've been trying recently to get a 4 rotating streak just for fun, and was having trouble. After the first few of these vids I was able to get a 3 streak, so it's definitely helping! Keep them coming if you're planning on making more!
My big take-away is that the game is just not very difficult at this level
Edit: Died to gremlin norb
Ask not for whom the nob roars, it roars for thee
It's definitely possible to get greedy or have nothing but terrible luck at low ascension. I'm doing the same thing as Jorbs (my main is up to A20 on all characters) and am up to A5 and have died three times. First two I tried to be make questionable things work and got punished. Last was Defect and played aggressively as possible and never got a single focus or anything useful and died to Act 3 boss.
I've beaten this on a20. I've also gotten absolutely fucking waxed on A5. Sometimes the cards just don't like you lol
Truly loving this series. Enjoying watching you make slightly different decks than a20, giggling when you find something you actually didn't know about the game (or have forgotten over the past 3 years), and giving out great insight on the workings of the various aspects
Just got into this game and wouldve loved more videos in this series
Twitch chat is remarkably well behaved in this video
They've been awfully quiet since this series dropped...
Zephyr not so much
I'm 99% sure that Zephyrs is a robot cat that has had Twitch chats AI uploaded into him.
Jorbs happily ending Time Eater with both pen nib and happy flower on 0 is when you know he’s completely entered vibes mode.
Hey Jorbs, just wanted to thank you for putting a lot of effort into these vids. Just the a0 vids have already changed my mindset so much and helped me realise my mistakes and improve at the game way more.
As a matter of fact, I've beaten my first a20 run, playong as ironclad! Forgot the red key, though, haha.
Once again thanks a lot, and I'm really looking forward towards more episodes of this series!
Really hope you get back to this series. I enjoy watching you play, but the slow pace and POV you provided in this series was super interesting.
ngl I would NOT mind a 30 minute disgussion about the Gremlin leader fight. It's a tie #1 most complex fight in the game for me.
Ngl having just a solid rundown of the kind of things it’s useful to be thinking about for Gremlin leader will probably have me watching the beginning of the video quite a few times. Great stuff loving this series
This series makes me so happy. I rarely just sit still while watching a youtube video but I dont want to miss anything here. Your knowledge on this game is incredible and your teaching style is very chill.
Same. I just enjoy them much more than the normal Twitch recordings, even if before I felt like I'd intuited most of Jorbs' opinions from the hundreds of other videos I'd watched. Not only was I occasionally wrong or missing the point, but it's a much chiller way to experience it from his perspective.
I figured out what you're UP TO with these videos, Jorbs. You want everyone to be able to beat Ascension 20 so the devs can make it more challenging for you. Well it won't work; we're too stupid. But it's a great effort, so far.
Hahahahahaha
understanding the map generation algorithm in principle lets you get an idea for the distribution of pathing flexibility you have in future acts, right? like, in principle it could pay some dividends but in practice probably nobody is good enough to gain anything meaningful from it?
It sounds like fringe optimization but I'm just a simple digger
@@forcefulstorm6187 same
i've looked at some of the probabilities of different types of paths before, in particular when comparing paths which go to super elite to paths which don't to evaluate the value of getting the super elite done in an earlier act. i ended up deciding that being forced into a super elite tended to lower the value of your path by 0.5-1.0 elites-ish, and make it more dangerous if you didn't have a sustain relic. i'm not sure i've ever actually used that information for anything though xD.
Watching Jorbs casually gain 90 block on turn 1 against the heart when he needs none is truly amusing 👍
Still enjoying these! We get great nuggets of wisdom like "I don't have to only be dealing damage with catalyst and have that be the only strong thing the deck can do" and "turn one is the first turn of every fight".
Jorbs: the John Madden of card commentary.
This run could've taken prismatic shard from the act 4 shop for its main point of actual utility: giving a chance to get a focus debuff vs the act 4 elites. Anything won in this act 4, probably, but it was the rare possibly 'correct' shard and I think that's neat.
With apologies to Jorbs for backseating a RUclips run on a1: sorry Jorbs, I love your stuff.
Can I just say, played the game for something like 70 hours, had maybe 4 TOTAL runs where I beat act three boss. One with each of the main characters and one with ironclad on A1. After watching the FIRST episode of this series, I was able to get a true ending finish with ironclad on A0 on my fourth run. Cleared the silent soon after and am only a couple of runs into figuring out the defect. As a casual player this helped me sooooo much!
NGL, I'm (probably) a seasoned STS player, about 200 hours, got to A20 with everyone minus Watcher because I hate watcher... but I'm still learning stuff somehow. Jorbs is truly a great player
I've played a lot more than that, and I am too. I think Jorbs would say he has a lot to learn too.
These are so good, can’t wait for boss breakdowns
It's interesting that internet famous Jorbs watches other people I watch on the internet. I think it was FrostPrime that was saying basically a lot
Hey Jorbs! Hope you continue this series! Really enjoyed the first 4
I only just started playing earlier this week, but holy shit this game is really fun. When I first started, I could barely make it through act two; those three slavers are a bitch of a fight!Anyway, one I got a “successful?” run with each character, I started looking up videos for newcomer advice, and that brings me to the point.
These videos are actually amazing, and have really helped me understand the importance of a small deck size. It never occurred to me that removing the starter cards were so impactful, but that tip alone has added so much value to my runs. I also “fell into the trap” of trying to build deck archetypes, rather than seeing what my deck currently needs. It’s like playing draft formats in MTG, but you have to play the deck as you build it!
Anyhow, I just listened to the intro at the start, and wanted to comment that your intent on this series helping newcomers has been achieved!
Its amazing how even very small details in this game can become extremely relevant. I have 300 hours (still stuck on beating a20 heart with silent) and never knew gremlin leader couldnt do the same action twice in a row. That changes the fight... a lot
1:14:50 sounds like a certain grandmaster daniel but who knows
I've been playing the game for ages and even if I only hang out at a20 aiming for the heart every time (and beating it every now and then), I consider myself rather casual.
Seeing the elites' AI breakdown just confirmed it. I believe that only learning the percentages and patterns of slavers/leader would bump my winrate by 10%. Incredible. My brain is melting now.
Surviving slavers is no small task for sure! I've thought I had them no problem more than once with great decks especially the small decks. Other elites beat you for having too many cards. Now I dread every time the slavers come up.
Loving this series! Great jorb!
Is there a pdf version of the PowerPoint presentation? This is awesome.
i'll make it public after i finish the four runs for it!
I was watching that same Naroditsky video where he kept saying "basically" it was funny that mentioned it :)
When you talked about the fight you should most use potions how far behind is reptomancer behind the heart and slavers? Reptomancer does what the slavers do only more punishing
not far behind, the big difference for me is that i have longer to prepare for reptomancer.
@@Jorbs that's what I was thinking that you didn't mention it because by act 3 your deck should be better
BEST SERIES! Seriously appreaciate all the work and love there is behind this project! Thanks Jorbs!
I just wanted to say myself and my fiancé really enjoyed this video, as she’s just starting to learn silent and wanted to see how the cards could fit together. It woulda been really cool if you could take stuff like sacred bark in these lower ascension runs too because you’re already above what you need to win the run too! :)
I guess this is the last one of the series huh :(
... I legitimately forgot thatt the non-beta Wraith Form artwork exists
One thing about Wraith Form is that for newer players it might actually not be as good of a card. Usually newer players build slower decks that often have trouble actually beating enemies in reasonable time. I think many beginner decks actually can't utilize Wraith Form well enough to actually pick the card a lot.
Agree 100%. Wraith Form wants you to have built a deck which can efficiently spend its energy and card draw on damage every turn, and that isn't actually a very easy thing to do.
Why did this series end?
I love these informative videos for spire. Keep up the great work Jorbs!
I have 700 hours but just learned book of stabbing isn't just 2 multi stabs first, then single stab (and repeat that)
!dig
Holy shit this run goes kind of crazy he really did get ALL the strong stuff
Have you ever covered whale bonuses in a video?
Love your new tutorial series. Love your normal playthrough as well. Slay the spire is an exceptional game and you are an exceptional stream. Keep it up.
I’m really enjoying these runs! You answer my questions before I realize I have them.
Could we have in game sound for the run part of the video? It feels pretty strange to not have the music and card sounds.
Sorry, I do in-game sound in a sort of weird way and I keep on forgetting to change my audio channels to record it >.
Can we get game sounds for future episodes, please?
Speaking of map generation, did you ever get an act with only 1 starting point? Didn’t think it was a possibility
I believe you must have at least two, although I don't believe anything stops them from immediately joining on the next floor.
I learned about the map generation algorithm today.
hey jorbs, i recently started watching your early runs, just when 1.0 was realesed, and I didn't think that I could respect you as an authority anymore but the fact you won as the silent back then made me respect you even more
hahahahaha, Silent has definitely received some buffs!
thanks jorbs, really enjoyable video
This deck is just disrespect ❤️
I've been loving these. It's a very practical discussion for someone who's got a lot of hours, and a lot of runs, but only just now try to ascend beyond ascension 1.
38:35 But my guy, you missed your happy flower pogging your setup for skewer.... you're lucky is just happy regardless of how you treat it, haha
Jorbs seeing any card: This is one of the strongest card in the game
Clash
Fantastic explanation as always!
A great video covering my favorite fights
I assume you mean Jaw Worm
I'm just starting out this game and I'd love to see more of these! I know they're more high effort now you're preparing full presentations for each one, but I would definitely appreciate more educational content with or without the theory lesson at the start. Keep up the good work!
Was the 'basically' guy Daniel Naroditsky?
How come you don't play 0-cost Skewers on lower Pen Nib numbers?
Oh Gremlin Leader has a Kunai
That explains a lot
Zephyr's last name is Helps